I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.
Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?
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I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.
Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?
[QUOTE=Thepfu]I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.
Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?[/QUOTE]
Very unlikely. It's only HK$100 and 25 minutes train ride into Central, and from there just a short cab ride to Wanchai. Why waste a night in HK hanging out at the airport?!
[QUOTE=Thepfu]I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.
Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?[/QUOTE]
The last time I stayed at the Regal, I took the train to Kowloon and then went to Hari's bar in the Holiday Inn, met a nice little Filipina gal and took her back to my room.. It was about 200 HKD for the taxi back and she spent the night.
I left before she got out of bed in the morning (she did wake up and take care of my "morning wood in a very nice fashion and with a smile, then rolled over and went back to sleep) I gave a er h100 HKD and told her to walk to the Airport Train station in the airport and take the train home. She sent me a sms later that afternoon to say "thanks, please call me the next time you are in town". I did mention to the front desk when I checked out, that my "guest" would be checking out later and to please not disturb her. It seemed to work out well for everyone.
I had also stopped by K pressure early in the afternoon, to "scratch" that itch. I wish that a "friend" had never introduced me to that place....it is way to easy and fun. You might also give a look at the 141 website if you prefer delivery, I am sure they can do that as well.
Enjoy and remember to share....
[QUOTE=Thepfu]I wlll be spending one night at the Regal Airport Hotel.
Might there be some WGs at the bar or willing masseuses in the spa?[/QUOTE]No good Bro, very sterile environment! Catch the AEL train to TST (20 mins train + HK$30 cab ride gets you to Hari's Bar)... or Central (30 mins train and HK$30 gets you to Wan Chai) and find someone nice there to bring back to hotel.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh].... Also, for all the years I have lived in HK (going on 13 years now), I will never understand why guys will pay HK$1,000 or more for Flip and Indo girls when they come to HK??? For those of you who do not know, Flip girls cost around HK$100 to HK$400 in the Philippines..... .....
Please note that my intent is not to put down any postings here.[/QUOTE]
With the same intent of yours, I think that your comparison of the price of an Flip or Indo in their homeplace and HK, or wherever in the world, can't be a good rule.
First of all one need to account the flight costs, with these gals often having to do visa runs, then the cost of living. If you can convince the local commercial establishment to charge the Flip and the Indo the same price they pay for anything as at home, you might start to expect some more levelled prices.
But this is Utopia, I am afraid.
I have not see any asian girl price in Europe to be the same price as at their home.... and I cannot expect to see it. :)
Perhaps Undercover's thought line is that it is cheaper, on a monetary basis, to fly from Hong Kong to Clark, roger, spend the night, roger again, and come back to Hong Kong, than to pay a long term rate of $1,500. prices to Clark right now are HK $170 one way, and the ewr is not much.
That said, what people who post this miss is the lost opportunity cost in making the trek. And to further contradict myself, I further agree with the opportunity to hunt local women. Haven't done it, after 15 years, but I would agree it is a smile and trial type of thing.
YMMV
Basah
For guys who want Flips and Indos, note that Flips are offered in Hong Kong at fair prices. In the Mongkok area, Flips cost about HK$250 to HK300 for 45 minutes.
You may ask yourself, why do Flips cost more at Fenwicks than MongKok? The answer is simple, Fenwicks is a tourist bar and Mongkok is where the locals go for sex.
As a side note, the sex scene in the MongKok area goes back at least 80 years. It is, and has been where the HK guys go for sex. It has only been in the last 15 years it has been opened up to guys like you and me. In fact, the 141 concept on the website came from the 141 long ago advertisement in Chinese news papers that was only written in Chinese with no pics. Then, with the internet, 141 ads went to the internet but was still only written in Chinese. It has been only in the past 5 years, some of the 141 sites are also in English. man 169 still only provides info in Chinese, at least the last time I checked. The site is for lots of sex clubs mainly in Mongkok.
Now, back to the signs. You will see that on the sign, Thais are cheaper. Russia chicks cost more and other types are available. Starting at Dundas street, walk down Portland and/or Shanghai heading NORTH (don't worry this area is safe, I have been visiting the area for the past 13 years and never had a problem). You will see some yellow signs with the listing of prices and the type of girls offered. I am not into Flip chicks, because I had my feel of them many years ago. However, for old time sake, I have from time to time visited Mong Kok for a Flip or other types of chicks. As with any lay, service and enjoyment will depend on several factors. If the girl agrees, you can also take her out, but why would you want to. The few times I had Flips for about HK250 or 300, service was ok to good. A few times, the Flip gave BBBJ.
Now, for those guys who want good looking Asian chicks at a fair price, lots of 141s offer this. Here is an area I like to visit, it is called Sai Wan Ho. It is easy to get to on the train. In fact, the train stop, just walk out and several 141s are a few minutes away. Nice looking Asian girls for about HK$350. Go to sex 141 and look up Sai Wan Ho on HK island.
Note that all the girls do not advertise on 141, so there will be lots more at the building when you get there. For example, at 153-157 Shau Kei Wan Rd., on the second floor, there are a ton of girls, way more than on 141.
I also like Shau Kei Wan. Also, if I pay HK350 and the service or sex is not that good, I am ok with it. But if I pay way more and the service sucks, I am pissed. This the joy of visiting low cost providers that are attractive, if she does not perform to your satisfaction, no great loss. For example, 3 weeks ago, I had a 21 Chinese girl from at a 141.
In person, she was hot, but after we got down to business, she would not let me suck her tits or touch them. She also said I was taking too long. Oh well, her pussy was nice and tight, and for HK350, it was not a big deal with me regarding the "No Suck Or Touch Tit Policy." The next day, I had a great lay and service from a different young Chinese girl in the same building for HK350. As with anything in life, it is "hit-and-miss."
IMPORTANT NOTE: Do not feel shy about knocking on the door and if she is not what you are looking for when she opens the door, smile, shake your head no, and walk away. It is way the game is played, so don't feel bad about doing it.
If you have lots of money and you do not care about spending lots of it on Asian girls, then head to Tsim Sha Tsui. This place is the most overpriced area for sex in Hong Kong for 141s. Why, because it is a tourist area. Compare TST to Shaui Kei Wan or Sai Wan Ho, where you will not see tourist (or just a few). SKW and SWO, and places like it, are where the local guys go. So start acting like a local and not a tourist. Also, in TST, you are paying for the girls overhead (e.g., higher rent compared to other areas in HK). Just because you pay more, do not assume the service will be better.
As for the bars in TST, you will pay a lot more for the girls time, just like tourist bars in Fenwicks.
And for those guys who think they are only in HK for a short time so why make an effort to me a local regular girl, consider this. Email and phones provide an opportunity to stay in touch. And if she likes you, you will have a nice little friend waiting for you when you return. Also, when you return to hK, you can still visit 141s and other sex outlets, and meet up with your local anytime you want. For older guys, I think they will appreciate this more. That is, spending time with a nice girl that may spread her legs for you without having to pay for it. A girl that really likes you and will offer the real GFE.
Also, when you are hunting, aim for the easy targets. Older HK women are easy targets as opposed to the 21 yo HK girl. Older HK women in there 30s or 40s rarely get attention, if ever. And many of them are still single or their husband left them. Some have kids and some don't. Also, lots of these HK ladies that are 35+ still look good. If you can believe this (believe it because it is true), there are OK clubs in HK that older HK women go to spend time and money on the men that are offered there. That's right, it is the same concept of OK club for men. But rather, the folks that visit are women and the men working there are young. This shows you how many lonely older Asian women there are in HK. The thing I like about older (35 to 45) regular HK women is that they really appreciate the sex. Also, generally speaking, younger women give you a lot of crap whereas older women go with the flow.
Currently, I see a HK women that is 44. She knows I have a girlfriend and she is ok with it (she does NOT know I visit 141s). We meet once a week and it is the same procedure. I take her to dinner (HK150), we may go to the movies, or shopping (she spends her own money), then back to her place for shower, oral sex (excellent BBBJ and ball licking), excellent sex with no condom (she is the only one I would do this with -other than my girlfriend- because I have know her for many years), and I always cum in her tight pussy (nice to do this with no worries of her having a baby) or CIM.
We have tried anal but she was too tight and I did not want to hurt her so I stopped. However, it was cool she was willing to try for me. Sometimes, I like having a women that really likes me, just for being me and there is no exchange of money. This is the real GFE.
After sex, we lay together like lovers, watch TV and I am out of there by 9:00 pm. She is basically a sweet Asian women who is still attractive that HK guys would not pay any attention to. She cooks for me. She was married before but her husband left her for another HK women. Her kid, now in his 20s treats her with little respect. Sometimes, I feel like telling him, "hey, your mom gives great BBBJ."
She worked in a shop I would visit on a regular basis in the morning and we would exchange smiles but she was always busy with customers and there were too many HK folks around for me to talk to her the way I wanted to. So, one day, when I came to the shop, we had our brief small talk and smiles as usual -- but this time, just before I left, I gave her my business card with a nice note I written on the back and my phone number. On the note, I basically told her she was a very sweet person and I always enjoyed our brief conversations. I wished her happy Chinese new year and I stated I would love to take her to lunch or dinner to start the new year. I also included my phone number. Two days later, she called and the rest is history.
I have known her for 6 years and over the years I have broken up with her 3 times. But she always calls and say, ok, if you do not want to be with me, we can be friends. We then hang out as friends, and then it leads to suckin and fuckin again. This is how I ended up with doing her again and also having a new girlfriend she knows about. It was actually her idea for me to have two -- oh, Chinese women are wonderful. Of course, my girlfriend does not know about her.
If you still feel meeting local girls is not for you.......no problem. That will just leave more HK pussy for me. : - )
The best thing about HK is that you can travel between Kowloon and HK island and visit lots of places in less than 20 minutes. So get out there and explore.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]For guys who want Flips and Indos, note that Flips are offered in Hong Kong at fair prices. In the Mongkok area, Flips cost about HK$250+ for 45 minutes.
You may ask yourself, why do Flips cost more at Fenwicks than MongKok? The answer is simple, Fenwicks is a tourist bar and Mongkok is where the locals go for sex... etc[/QUOTE]A very enjoyable read. Thanks. I do think you made a mistake with your earlier post however, simplified: you gave the impression that any guy doing Filipinas and Thais in HK was paying way to much. Re read your post and I think you will note that is the overwhelming impression.
Fact is, there are a lot of Bros who come to HK for business, have no means of explaining a "side trip to Manilla" and so regardless of cost have no interest in doing that, whatever they may save on WG's they could lose ten-fold in other ways.
On the other hand you have made some excellent points about 141, Portland Street, 37D etc, all places that have been mentioned here before, but no harm to reiterate what they offer. An interesting and entertaining read.
I have done my share of Thais, Filipinas, Singapore, Mainland girls, etc and I have decided that my favourites are Korean, Japanese & Mongolian. That's just my personal taste. I prefer the sex, I also like the interaction before and after which is quite different to some other nationalities.
It suits me to pick up a Korean girl at a bar in TST because I enjoy listening to music, having a few drinks, and the "getting to know each other" time you dont get from 141 or walk ups.
I initially pay a premium for that, but then when I find a girl I like, we exchange contact details and see each other regularly. The price drops considerably, in fact in some cases the cost can be dinner or cocktails rather than just straight cash.
The style suits me and it gets me what I like.
I think the key issue is, that whilst all your points are "generally" correct (IMHO) there are often very valid reasons why some bros DONT do it "your recommended way" and it is not always simply ignorance.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]If you can believe this (believe it because it is true), there are OK clubs in HK that older HK women go to spend time and money on the men that are offered there. That's right, it is the same concept of OK club for men. But rather, the folks that visit are women and the men working there are young. This shows you how many lonely older Asian women there are in HK.[/QUOTE]Now that is something I did NOT know. I have seen the 30 something girls hanging around bars looking to score, and I know under the right circumstances they can be FOC + eats and drinks, but to think they could be mongering in an OK place? Yikes. I am therefore compelled to ask, any girls here at ISG?
I was in the Dundas establishment around 2:30 Thursday. There were enough girls to provide me with a line up of four. The mama kept saying I could take two. I should have should have asked if it was a 2 for 1 pricing.
Friday a 6 story tenement in To Kwa Wan collapsed. Several single woman brothels were known to be operating in the building. There were several fatalities. Food for thought when you venture in to some of the decrepit 141 venues.
[QUOTE=Tony Toro]Now that is something I did NOT know. I have seen the 30 something girls hanging around bars looking to score, and I know under the right circumstances they can be FOC + eats and drinks, but to think they could be mongering in an OK place? Yikes. I am therefore compelled to ask, any girls here at ISG?[/QUOTE]There are many (not a few, but many) in HK where Thai working girls go to karaoke and monger Thai working men. Ironic, no?
[QUOTE=Tony Toro]A very enjoyable read. Thanks. I do think you made a mistake with your earlier post however, simplified: you gave the impression that any guy doing Filipinas and Thais in HK was paying way to much. Re read your post and I think you will note that is the overwhelming impression.
Fact is, there are a lot of Bros who come to HK for business, have no means of explaining a "side trip to Manilla" and so regardless of cost have no interest in doing that, whatever they may save on WG's they could lose ten-fold in other ways.
On the other hand you have made some excellent points about 141, Portland Street, 37D etc, all places that have been mentioned here before, but no harm to reiterate what they offer. An interesting and entertaining read.
I have done my share of Thais, Filipinas, Singapore, Mainland girls, etc and I have decided that my favourites are Korean, Japanese & Mongolian. That's just my personal taste. I prefer the sex, I also like the interaction before and after which is quite different to some other nationalities.
It suits me to pick up a Korean girl at a bar in TST because I enjoy listening to music, having a few drinks, and the "getting to know each other" time you dont get from 141 or walk ups.
I initially pay a premium for that, but then when I find a girl I like, we exchange contact details and see each other regularly. The price drops considerably, in fact in some cases the cost can be dinner or cocktails rather than just straight cash.
The style suits me and it gets me what I like.
I think the key issue is, that whilst all your points are "generally" correct (IMHO) there are often very valid reasons why some bros DONT do it "your recommended way" and it is not always simply ignorance.[/QUOTE]
I generally agree with most of your comments. I strongly agree with your concept that guys will do what they like based on what they prefer and their taste in women. My intent was to provide guys with another option, especially when most of the post here for the past several months has focused mostly on Flips and Indos in the overpriced tourist bars. Newbies may have obtained the wrong impression from the sight (e.g., all there is to HK is overpriced sex), not knowing that there are lots of options for good sex at much lower prices than the tourist bars. As an investigative sex reporter, I believe in fair and balanced reporting....... : - )
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]This shows you how many lonely older Asian women there are in HK. The thing I like about older (35 to 45) regular HK women is that they really appreciate the sex. Also, generally speaking, younger women give you a lot of crap whereas older women go with the flow.[/QUOTE]Agreed. For the same level of hotness, the younger girls think they're all that and are way too high maintenance. Plus the service isn't all that great, partly from lack of experience, and also because they have this mentality that just because they're young and hot, all they have to do is just lay there and their work is done.
Older women for me is in the 30-40 range. Once they break the 30 barrier, it has some huge psychological effect on them. In HK it's like post-30 women are no longer on anyone's A list and are bumped down to second-tier, and they know that, so they'll work harder (more like do their fair share) to please a man. Also, a few bad breakups and maybe a divorce later, they're more realistic and practical and not caught up in all that ideological crap like the 20-somethings are.
I don't know why HK people are so against 30+ women. You still see a lot of really attractive women out there who are over 30, some really nice milfs. And since no one pays attention to them anymore, it's not too hard to get freebies.
Seriously, I rarely dip under 25 anymore. Just not worth it, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]You may ask yourself, why do Flips cost more at Fenwicks than MongKok? The answer is simple, Fenwicks is a tourist bar and Mongkok is where the locals go for sex.[/QUOTE]
I really like your plug for local women, and suggesting people take the effort to make it work. Should move me out of my comfort zone.
In my opinion, though, the Wanchai bars, while they do have tourists in them, have an incredible amount of Gwei expat's who are regulars there, so I wouldn't place them as 'tourist' bars.
Additionally, just a thought, but at $250 for 45 minutes for a Filippina in Mongkok, you'd get 90 minutes for $500 (short-time) or $1000 for 3 hours, which is shorter than LT for a Filippina in Wanchai - and the attitude in my experience having done both is better because there is the allure that "I'm not really doing this for the money" when in Mongkok, you walk up to the brothel and that allure goes away. So really not talking about all that much of a price difference are we?
[QUOTE=Basah]Additionally, just a thought, but at $250 for 45 minutes for a Filippina in Mongkok, you'd get 90 minutes for $500 (short-time) or $1000 for 3 hours, which is shorter than LT for a Filippina in Wanchai. And the attitude in my experience having done both is better because there is the allure that "I'm not really doing this for the money" when in Mongkok, you walk up to the brothel and that allure goes away. So really not talking about all that much of a price difference are we?[/QUOTE]I totally agree with this. A good example, I go to a bar in TST or Wan Chai, relax, have a drink, listen to music and see if I find something that I like.
Lets say someone catches my eye and we have a chat, get to know each other listen to the music etc, eventually we get down to talking about "later", we agree to a price and criteria. Eventually we head off together.
In a case where I have negotiated a ST (say 2. 3 hour experience) I may pay anything from HK$500. $1, 500. The range depends on "who" and how much do I want her. When I add the 2. 3 hours we enjoyed eachother's company in the bar before hand, I am paying HK$500. $1500 for a 4. 6 hour experience. I am happy with that.
In a case where I want to have LT with a WG, I may pay more, however I will get more in return.
If I really enjoy the WG, I will exchange contact info and see her again. Price can be much more flexible once the WG has had an opportunity to get to know you, the "extra" she factors in for "risk" can be removed and other things such as a meals, coffee etc can be considered.
Overall, the value I am getting, at least to me, is at least on PAR with paying a 141 girl HK$250. $500 for 45 minutes of straight sex.
However, Undercoverh does raise some excellent points and provides a comprehensive summary of alternatives for all to consider.
We just need to keep in mind, that someone paying HK$1, 000. HK$1, 500 for a LT with a Filipina WG in HK is not necessarily just "over paying". There are numerous other factors that influence one's decision. There are also numerous other factors that need to be considered when assessing the value one is getting.