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[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2792964]I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.[/QUOTE]Ain't no average. Gave a chick 1000 last night and another chick just asked for 2500. I try to shoot for 1200 LT.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2792950]An interesting factoid about Songkran is that airfares out of BKK to Phnom & CGK always go up a day or 2 before Songkran begins and BKK hotel rates go down over the length of the holiday. This is a sure sign that a lot of people do not want to be in LOS over this holiday if they can help it. Personally, I have left BKK for a Phnom Penh side trip many times on account of Songkran. I have also scheduled my Asian trips to begin after Songkran, so I don't have to bother with it at all. But a couple of times I stayed in BKK just to see what goes on. I stayed at the BKK Weston and Grande Centrepoint T21 for bargain basement rates and I managed to stay dry too, LOL, because both the Weston and the Grande Centrepoint T21 (especially the T21) are kind of connected to Cowboy via the MRT station underpass walkway.
But I saw a lot of drenched people on Sukhumvit even though I think there is a lot more water craziness away from the farang zone and in local Thai neighborhoods. Some Thai's really get into the holiday spirit. My Mini used to send me pics of herself in a taxi surrounded by water revelers as she was attempting to come see me. I suppose the celebration is fun if you are young and have the right attitude AND you are drinking plenty of beer.[/QUOTE]Last night 9 pm. Baht bus from central to walking street. So a few bus were full. There's like millions more coming. Not a big deal.
Same with traffic. Not a big deal.
Hot Hello Girls. It is an indicator of what's inside. Hahaha.
So I finally made it back to Pattaya after several years. I had made a few trips to AC in the meantime. Pattaya in one word. Overwhelming. The sheer number of bars, girls, mongers, traffic is truly exhausting. Those who say they can't find a decent looker in Pattaya are clearly visually impaired. You see literally thousands of women every evening and there are some percent hotties. Even beach road had a few that would turn heads. As for me, I enjoyed the gentlemens clubs the most. Camel Toe girls were fun and wild and found good fun in Maggie Mays as well. As far as gogos, didn't go to too many except Windmill which is a hoot with naked girls everywhere and girl-girl shows all over the club on two floors, and Heaven Above. Ended up Barfining a brand new girl 20 year old, 3 days in Pattaya. I believed it because she spoke zero english and fucked totally naturally (I,e not like a bar girl). 2000 BF and 3000 for her. The GC prices were 1 k per girl and 200 to 300 for the room. The good part there is the foreplay and build up in the bars before the main event. I missed that action since its all but gone in AC.
I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).
Would I go back soon? I don't know. The traffic is insane and it takes 30 min to go 2 km in the evening. Walking street is sensory overload. Its like a buffet with too much food and I lose my appetite. AC is much smaller and manageable and being able to talk in English to the girls, even the fresh of the farm ones, is a huge appeal.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2793093]So I finally made it back to Pattaya after several years. I had made a few trips to AC in the meantime. Pattaya in one word. Overwhelming. The sheer number of bars, girls, mongers, traffic is truly exhausting. Those who say they can't find a decent looker in Pattaya are clearly visually impaired. You see literally thousands of women every evening and there are some percent hotties. Even beach road had a few that would turn heads. As for me, I enjoyed the gentlemens clubs the most. Camel Toe girls were fun and wild and found good fun in Maggie Mays as well. As far as gogos, didn't go to too many except Windmill which is a hoot with naked girls everywhere and girl-girl shows all over the club on two floors, and Heaven Above. Ended up Barfining a brand new girl 20 year old, 3 days in Pattaya. I believed it because she spoke zero english and fucked totally naturally (I,e not like a bar girl). 2000 BF and 3000 for her. The GC prices were 1 k per girl and 200 to 300 for the room. The good part there is the foreplay and build up in the bars before the main event. I missed that action since its all but gone in AC.
I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).
Would I go back soon? I don't know. The traffic is insane and it takes 30 min to go 2 km in the evening. Walking street is sensory overload. Its like a buffet with too much food and I lose my appetite. AC is much smaller and manageable and being able to talk in English to the girls, even the fresh of the farm ones, is a huge appeal.[/QUOTE]Windmill very popular to the point they have to be printing Baht.
Same old story though. Avgg rating of attractive ness of girls is below average.
The other night I saw what might have been the ugliest Thai girl ever,. She was a Nude. No offense.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2792964]I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.[/QUOTE]On TF some girls ask for 3000 but nearly always settle for 2000. Most ask for 2000. Maybe 25% will ask for 1500.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2793013]I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?[/QUOTE]I thought I just posted this but since you don't want to read the forums in the central area there are Kota indah with a pile of bars, Travel, Classic, Malio just to name a few. NE there is Kelapa Gading with a ton of clubs. West there's New Medika and a whole ton of bars no one goes to unless you are in the know. There are places all over like B Fashion and a ton of large massage places with tons of girls. There's CJ and BATS for pickup bars like iBar. There ares places down South like Eastern Promise and not sure what else is open in Blok M. Jakarta is the unknown for most guys. I can guarantee no one will be disappointed there. Cheaper than Thailand. Girls are prettier than Thailand. More girls in their late teens and early 20's than Thailand. Hotels are cheap. No taxi scams like Thailand. Goats is correct the city is a dud except for Kota Kasablanka mall with the Neo Soho area and Grand Indonesia mall. Never bothered me with bars having girls from 3 pm til late at night. The only downfall and this does keep many guys away is that you can't take most of the girls to your hotel for LT, other than CJs and BATS.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2793093]I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).[/QUOTE]So you BB with 75% of the chicks that you were with but some say this is very hard to find. Did you negotiate it beforehand or just go with the flow?
Please keep the Jakarta stuff in the Jakarta forum, this forum is about Pattaya.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2792964]I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.[/QUOTE]I was there in December and got a lot at 1500. I'm usually not choosing the hottest looking ones cause those I know most likely heavily photoshopped. I picked avg looking ones and they'd provide better service which I'd prefer over looks.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2793219]I was there in December and got a lot at 1500. I'm usually not choosing the hottest looking ones cause those I know most likely heavily photoshopped. I picked avg looking ones and they'd provide better service which I'd prefer over looks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
I agree with you, the average looking ones which were cheaper tended to provide better service, not just sexually but in terms of the company they provided. I had one that never asked for more than 1,000 baht, was always on time, slightly above average looking and a nice thick body, and all three holes were always open for service. I normally don't even repeat but the value with this chick was too good. And that's the nice thing about Pattaya, if you search enough you can find value.
Another one that I repeated with would charge 1,200 baht and do everything I say. A nice tight body, friendly and down to earth. Best of all, would give me the best deep throat I ever had to the point it would kind of hurt in a good way. And would incorporate rimming as well without being asked to.
Overall, sounds like prices are slightly higher but likely come down as low season kicks in.
Man I miss Pattaya. Once you get back to the states and get completely blue balled, the idea that you can walk into a BJ bar and blow a load in a hottie's mouth for twenty something bucks and be on your way seems so far fetched and unbelievable. You gents that live there have it good.
I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.
[QUOTE=YuriB;2793254]I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]Anytime is good Seriously, you will get rain, sometimes a lot of rain as it is right in the height of the monsoon season. That said, there will also be a lot less tourists so the bars and restaurants will not be as crowded as during high season. Also you should be able to bargain some on services as it will be a buyers market. Just buy a cheap umbrella when you get there and leave it when you go home.
I was there last year, mid-October to mid-November and only really had two days of rain. We did get stuck on Soi 6 in a torrential downpour and it was a pain in the ass to get back to the hotel. This was an a bit unusual as October is still usually the tail end of the monsoon season. This year I am coming down for the entire month of October. I expect a bit of rain but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised again.
As far as availability of Russians or other Eastern Europeans, I can't really help as I tend to focus on the petite Thai, Cambodian and Laotian ladies while I am there.
[QUOTE=YuriB;2793254]I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]Don't go to Thailand to find Russian girls, go somewhere else.
I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.
Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."
Disaster.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2793145]So you BB with 75% of the chicks that you were with but some say this is very hard to find. Did you negotiate it beforehand or just go with the flow?[/QUOTE]I negotiated with 2 up front in Camel Toe and Maggie Mays. The Windmill girl was very new so I knew she wouldn't ask for a condom and I was right. One girl from Heaven Above insisted on using it. My buddy who joined me also took a Windmill girl. She asked for condom but he told her she could leave if that was the condition. She stayed and he even had her over another night. I don't think he used a condom with any of the girls. I think its fairly easy to get BBFS but if you choose some pro bar girl from a go go maybe chances are less. Gentlemen clubs, beer bars and newer girls your chances are much better.