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[QUOTE=The Pro]Aeon bank is the only one now not charging the 150baht fee.

Given some peoples concerns for hardware problems (never had a problem myself) I suggest that you go to an ATM at a bank branch and use it during working hours, so that should there be any problem you can walk inside with the receipt for any problems.

But I say again, I have never had a problem, and no 150baht fee.

For all those that say its not "worth the hassle". Thai's have always scammed foreigners on the basis that "always more stupid ones coming along to replace the others already ripped off".

Why pay 150 baht for nothing to the Thai banks. They are s. camming you. And if you let them then well, you are a walking ATM for Thai bankers. LOL[/QUOTE]


Pro,

Just a clarification! Not always the case using ATM's at Branches, First you will only get a receipt if you get a transaction in my case a clock kept on spinning and gave me a response after a few minutes that the Transaction requested couldn't be process. I was at the Branch and the attendant saw exactly what happen. But the branch can't do anything for you regarding such a transaction. They will put you on the phone with someone, somewhere? But the Branch will not be able to help you!

Like I said this has happen only in Pattaya, I have gone into Bangkok ( using the website you listed ) went around to the branches,nothing! All try to put me on the phone just like Pattaya, I research Aeon and notice they had Corporate offices on the corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke, the highrise across from Soi Cowboy, went to the 25-26-27 floor same result, spoke on the phone, no results, no one would come out and who knows who I was talking to or where?

If you know a place I can speak to someone in person that has the power to resolve my problem right there and then so I can show them the documentation that I never received the money I surely would like to know but everywhere I have gone they try to put me on the phone. It is not like in the U.S. banking system you can go into any branch and it would be taken care of but in Thailand hell no and no way!

Good luck to those that they don't get burn because like the Pro said we are all walking breathing ATM's as soon as you get off the airplane!

LBM

I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.

[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]


Recruiting them is easy, getting them pass U.S Immigration would be quite a feat but even if could pull that impossibility off, how would you get them to stay in your AMP toiling away to make you and your partners rich? As soon as they touched down in the states and located a compass you and your partners would be blowing your customers yourself, unless of course you resorted to those same [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] techniques.

[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?
I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]
If I were you...I would really stay away from such a project, but then...each one his own.
I heard that even bringing a legitimate girlfriend in the USA is a big challenge.
Go imagine what can be with future ML's in not much legitimate activities.
You might even be challenged also by non-LE teams.
Anyhow the thai girls say.."up to you" (and dont forget "shower first", after having been at 7-11)
LOL

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Pro,

Just a clarification! Not always the case using ATM's at Branches, First you will only get a receipt if you get a transaction in my case a clock kept on spinning and gave me a response after a few minutes that the Transaction requested couldn't be process. I was at the Branch and the attendant saw exactly what happen. But the branch can't do anything for you regarding such a transaction. They will put you on the phone with someone, somewhere? But the Branch will not be able to help you![/QUOTE]I'm unless unlucky. The ATM screw-up happened 3 times to me in the past 2 years (none the previous 20 years). My bank rep said that is unusual, but it sometimes occurs.

This is what is happening. When you enter your PIN, the info goes to the VISA network and it gets approved. The approval comes back, but due to a malfunction in the ATM, it won't be able to process the transaction.

Citi Bank (Western Bank) in Angeles immediately credited my account. But the local banks in Phnom Penh and Costa Rica did not. They took money out of my account.

Hence you have to call your ATM bank and dispute the charges. They will get VISA to do an audit on that ATM. In both cases I got the refund. I don't think talking to the low level local employee will help.

Note 1: The Thailand banks started to charge the 150 Baht fee couple of years ago. Previously, the ATM would give you Thai Baht at the buy rate (the lower end of the buy/sell spectrum) and not charge the 150 Baht fee. But now, the ATM gives you the Thai Baht at the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) with a 150 Baht fee. Hence if you take a lot of money out at one time, the overall rate is similar.

Note 2: If you want to avoid the 150 Baht ATM fee, get a Charles Schwab ATM card. That bank will refund the ATM fee, and it also does not charge the 3% Foreign Transaction Fee. Best ATM card around.

[QUOTE=Alxxx]This is a question to the ones who ever got Thai girls from a website to bed. Might be quite a dumb one, but I just want to get your opinions, thoughts and maybe some useful tips:

-what do you talk about with girls who you meet online and plan to have some bed fun later once you're in LOS, just so they have idea that you're up to some fun and spending a good time together, and not serious brain-screwing relationshiops/friendship? How do you meet in reality and proceed later to your hotel room? How do you end those "relationships" so they don't get disappointed etc? And how do you tell the difference between those who are really "just looking for friends" and the ones who are up to something more?

I've been to Thailand only one time, and only had friendship type of online girls. However, in bars/clubs I sometimes got normal girls (only a few though) who didn't mind coming with me to my place after just a couple of hours partying together. [/QUOTE]Dude you are trying too hard. If you are trying to meet a non-pro just to use her then why waste her or your time and emotions? It is really despicable to play with someones feelings like that. If you are that pressed to get someone into bed why not just get a working girl? That is what they are there for.

I have met about 10 girls from TLL since I have been going to Thailand. I have had relations with all but 1. The one I didn't was a bartender on the Artist Soi in BKK. One was a hairstylist semi-pro in BKK, who asked me for money when I wanted to see her a second time. I expect another hairstylist in Pattaya was a semi-pro because she said that a guy from Texas used to take care of her. The others were just girls with regular jobs: hairstylist, teacher, factory manager, travel agent, internet shop worker, real estate agent. I'm still friends with a couple of them. The rest just withered away.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Dude you are trying too hard. If you are trying to meet a non-pro just to use her then why waste her or your time and emotions? It is really despicable to play with someones feelings like that. If you are that pressed to get someone into bed why not just get a working girl? That is what they are there for.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply to my post Mr Enternational,

Well, I surelly didn't mean that I want to play with someone's feeling, that's why I asked how you usually clearly point out that this is just for some fun when you're on quite a short trip to LOS, however I don't want to sound like some guys who write something like "ladies who wants my 9 inch dick bla bla bla", and spam their profiles/message boxes with perverted stupid messages. Just banging girls as a physical act is not that fun for me, I'm always looking for some chemistry, but I don't have time for LTR. That's why it makes beer bar/go-go scene not so great for me, and of course message parlours type of thing. Moreover, as I think most of you guys would agree, P4P girls in Thailand tend to be way less attractive as the "normal" girls you can see in the streets, shops, reception desks etc.

Actually as I look at my previous message I do agree that it looks like I'm "trying too hard". This is a good point actually, Mr! Thai normal girls seems to be easily asked out to a meal or something online. And from that point you can see where it takes you. Actually spending time at some restaurant with a decent Asian girl is great by itself.

[QUOTE=The Pro]Aeon bank is the only one now not charging the 150baht fee.
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I did a no fee transaction today at Citibank near Soi Cowboy - Suk 21

[QUOTE=GreenBud]I'm unless unlucky. The ATM screw-up happened 3 times to me in the past 2 years (none the previous 20 years). My bank rep said that is unusual, but it sometimes occurs.

This is what is happening. When you enter your PIN, the info goes to the VISA network and it gets approved. The approval comes back, but due to a malfunction in the ATM, it won't be able to process the transaction.

Citi Bank (Western Bank) in Angeles immediately credited my account. But the local banks in Phnom Penh and Costa Rica did not. They took money out of my account.

Hence you have to call your ATM bank and dispute the charges. They will get VISA to do an audit on that ATM. In both cases I got the refund. I don't think talking to the low level local employee will help.

Note 1: The Thailand banks started to charge the 150 Baht fee couple of years ago. Previously, the ATM would give you Thai Baht at the buy rate (the lower end of the buy/sell spectrum) and not charge the 150 Baht fee. But now, the ATM gives you the Thai Baht at the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) with a 150 Baht fee. Hence if you take a lot of money out at one time, the overall rate is similar.

Note 2: If you want to avoid the 150 Baht ATM fee, get a Charles Schwab ATM card. That bank will refund the ATM fee, and it also does not charge the 3% Foreign Transaction Fee. Best ATM card around.[/QUOTE]


The procedure outline by you is correct! The big difference is when I disputed the transaction with my bank, the amount disputed was place back into my account while the dispute was pending with Aeon and Visa requesting a audit with Aeon. Now one would assume this is all done by wire communication by Visa and Aeon. After several weeks the results was Aeon came back to Visa and through wire communication and told my bank that the transaction being disputed was a " valid " transaction meaning I was given by the ATM and there was no problem. This was basically telling me in a nice way I was a crook and a scammer. And remove the amount out of my account again. There after there is nothing more a U.S. institution can do on foreign soil to retreive my money.

So this was why when back in Thailand I continue to pursue the issue with Aeion Bank, but have been unable to speak to someone in person of authority to resolve the issue. In their research to me they have told me over the phone that

A. We gave you the money
B. We have photo's of the transaction
C. We have no record of any transaction on that particular day therefore no photos
C. Then final answer, we authorized the return transaction back to your bank account which is all untrue.

So in the end not as lucky as you!

LBM

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]I did a no fee transaction today at Citibank near Soi Cowboy - Suk 21[/QUOTE]If you have a citibank card you can just go to citiibank and withdraw any amount at no charge. Main branch is on Sathorn.

ATM should always give the the "TT" rate.

If you are not getting the "TT" rate then you should change your bank in your home country.

[QUOTE=GreenBud]Note 1: The Thailand banks started to charge the 150 Baht fee couple of years ago. Previously, the ATM would give you Thai Baht at the buy rate (the lower end of the buy/sell spectrum) and not charge the 150 Baht fee. But now, the ATM gives you the Thai Baht at the Visa rate (between the buy and sell rate) with a 150 Baht fee. Hence if you take a lot of money out at one time, the overall rate is similar.[/QUOTE]

As a non-smoker I don't know much other than Airport has no duty free Malboros.
Can anyone suggest which other brand is available at Suwanaphum Airport that would be similar to Malboro Red?
e.g. Dunhill, Camel, etc.
I have no clue.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]If I were you...I would really stay away from such a project, but then...each one his own.
I heard that even bringing a legitimate girlfriend in the USA is a big challenge.
Go imagine what can be with future ML's in not much legitimate activities.
You might even be challenged also by non-LE teams.
Anyhow the thai girls say.."up to you" (and dont forget "shower first", after having been at 7-11)
LOL[/QUOTE]

Thanks Bionicman and Ran Mann

You both make very legitimate points when it comes to the recruiting and the problem of getting them to stay.
That said I will try and recruit illegals that are already here and looking for work that way if the stay the stay if they go they go and I haven't thrown in too much on the front end. I now just have to find were those communities tend to gather here in states and circulate info that way.

[QUOTE=Mushamisi]I am interested in starting an AMP and have found a small group of interested partners to chip-in with start-up capital. How do I recruit girls from Thailand and other such places without running into the whole [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] mess. Or is it something I should better set-up through a syndicate (which in that case I may as well drop the idea)?

I have not meet many thai girls in the US but anyone who can give me a tip or info please PM or post.[/QUOTE]Seeing that you are posting this stuff on various threads, how about the suggestion you go to Isreal where you can see / learn firsthand for yourself how this kind of 'business' works.

I was in TH a few years ago and bought some Apcalis (just for fun, or what other reason is there?). I tried Viagra before, but have to say Apcalis is quite a bit better and works for a few days.

Is Apcalis still available in TH? How much is it for the 4-pack?

I am often in China, you get also all sort of stuff there, however, I don't trust them a bit and don't want to risk my health for a test.