Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2981200]LOL, what is the name of this movie?[/QUOTE]I'd call it Project Ukraine. Which has failed miserably.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2981271]Pure, Russian propaganda. Russians launched an unprovoked war of territorial aggression against Ukraine. Want the war to stop? Russians go home.[/QUOTE]Off to gaga land you go.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2981200]LOL, what is the name of this movie?[/QUOTE]It would be a great movie, on topic freedom defeating a dictator. Putin is shame of Russia and kill so many Russians. Wake up Russians.

Eastern europe has long been a fuckup, Borat is funny because it speaks many germs of truth. Many theories, but like south America, nobody trusts the institutions or beyond tomorrow. Hrrrm, sounds a bit like what the USA has become.

In short, UA was and is hopeless corrupt from its start in 1991 as all the people I know who used to live there will tell you. The old Soviets was slightly better. It seems a Victoria Nuland and arms manufacturers cooked up a scheme and persuaded the equally corrupt politicians (an oxymoron) by wanting NATO that they knew Russia would go ape about. It worked. Nuland went long on the arms industry and last I heard got a bunch of cushy jobs as a payoff. The Obama's and people like Pelosi went big shorter after their 2014 coup and some insider info. There is even a fund that tracks Pelosi, it gets really good returns ! Meanwhile, those running UA have homes in the west and a ton of cash tucked away so they can walk away, just like freedom waving "leaders" in south vietnam fleecing America with their US residency safe in their back pockets and money offshore.

Follow the money, ignore all the slogans and public bullshit. As for the whole Palestine / Israel thing, land is scarce and Israel has enough money and investment in the arms industry to grab some free real estate and get cash, the benefit of stock holdings in the MIC etc, naturally dressed up with the usual bullshit, and I'll bet the other side has similar side deals going on. What is for sure none of them give a fuck about the population they nominally serve. This have been the case for millennia. We are fed retail politics to whip us up into a frenzy and blind us whilst the big boys make off with the big bucks almost in plain sight.

UA women are not that hot. Head to Siberia for smoking hot in looks and in bed, and don't forget Brazil and the Balkans. Lot's of eye candy. Many are extremely skilled in BJ's, they don't neglect the balls, use their little feminine fingers and pretty lips wrapped around your swollen manhood. As it should be. That's something worthwhile to get behind.

I want a hot Russian girl in KGB uniform and fishnet thigh highs using ancient Arabic methods to cause shattering orgasms. Sounds a better aspiration (and achievable) than parroting the retail politics to cover up the rotten core of corruption that knows no border or language barrier. Zalinkski and his pals will soon be sipping prosecco on the shores of Lake Geneva and watching their portfolios, it's all the same club, the differences are just show for the punters.

PS, some typos here, on the AMTRACK rattling past Philly to DC and bedtime.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2981289]Eastern europe has long been a fuckup, Borat is funny because it speaks many germs of truth. Many theories, but like south America, nobody trusts the institutions or beyond tomorrow. Hrrrm, sounds a bit like what the USA has become..[/QUOTE]Excellent mixture of political analysis, stock market tips and sex tips.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2981246]You've got it all wrong.

This is a sub-forum dedicated to Ukraine, not the "brutalization" of "Palestinians".

Kindly go to the Israel forum and start a new thread where you can unload on "genocidal" Zionists to your heart's content.[/QUOTE]So are you okay with what Israel is / has been doing in Gaza? Also, why did you put Palestinians in quotes?

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2981279]I respectfully disagree with some of your points.

1. The collective west (USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, Japan, EU, S Korea), they are all complicit in the genocide in Palestine. Yes, it is the USA that is arming the Zionists but the rest of them are turning a blind eye and their media is also enabling the genocide. Many EU countries are still providing arms to the Zionists. Others are silent. Silence is complicity.

And I totally agree that it is the neocons and the Zionists who are fomenting violence and unrest all over the world. They destroyed the middle east (Syria, Libya, Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Somalia, Lebanon and now they are after Iran) and they are responsible for wrecking Ukraine. They are still trying to create unrest in Georgia and will continue to try in Belarus and I'm sure Moldova.

The leader is the United States. The Europeans are too spineless or stupid now it seems to know what is in their best interest.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree. The Israeli tail wags the American dog the hardest, but it certainly does wag many other western countries too like the UK: we all know about "My AIPAC guy" that every congressman has in America, but the UK for instance has the same nefarious influence via the Conservative friends of Israel and Labor friends of Israel.

My point was to distinguish between the governments and institutions of the west and the people: there are very many just and humane people in the west who aren't racist or hateful. When I was in Spain or Greece, there was substantial prominent support for the Palestinians via flags, graffiti, etc and that too from the Spaniards / Greeks not any immigrants. It's also notable that Ireland is a strong supporter of Palestine, having been brutalised by the English they obviously empathise.

With Ukraine, the media's exertion on the minds of the masses is obvious. Any counter narrative about whether this was a war that could have been averted is suppressed. It really is very disheartening to witness the deleterious impacts of societal group think.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2981336]So are you okay with what Israel is / has been doing in Gaza? Also, why did you put Palestinians in quotes?[/QUOTE]Well of course he is. And the reason he placed "Palestinians" in speech marks is obvious: to deny their very existence and therefore legitimise the ethnic cleansing and their genocide and expropriation of their lands by the Israelis. I can understand racists and facists (I don't suggest it's acceptable just that I can logically understand a racist's / extreme nationalists mindset), it's just the hypocricy that I cannot fathom. How does the mind of a hypocrite work? The necessary cognitive dissonance is remarkable.

In response to the chap earlier about why raise Israel in the Ukraine thread, the reasoning is similar: you cannot condemn Russian invasion of Ukraine without condemning Israel's brutalisation of the Palestinian. Well, you can, but then you are a hypocrite. I hate hypocrisy.

Here, this is about so courageous Ukraine, when Israel and USA who want to eradicate Palestinians have nothing to do with Putin aggressing Ukraine, after he fucked Crimea elections and tried for Georgia, Moldavia and Romania.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2981349]Well of course he is. And the reason he placed "Palestinians" in speech marks is obvious: to deny their very existence and therefore legitimise the ethnic cleansing and their genocide and expropriation of their lands by the Israelis. I can understand racists and facists (I don't suggest it's acceptable just that I can logically understand a racist's / extreme nationalists mindset), it's just the hypocricy that I cannot fathom. How does the mind of a hypocrite work? The necessary cognitive dissonance is remarkable.

In response to the chap earlier about why raise Israel in the Ukraine thread, the reasoning is similar: you cannot condemn Russian invasion of Ukraine without condemning Israel's brutalisation of the Palestinian. Well, you can, but then you are a hypocrite. I hate hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]You nailed it. I know exactly why he put Palestinians in quotes and it is disgusting. These people have dehumanized Palestinians and consider them human animals.

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My point was to distinguish between the governments and institutions of the west and the people: there are very many just and humane people in the west who aren't racist or hateful. When I was in Spain or Greece, there was substantial prominent support for the Palestinians via flags, graffiti, etc and that too from the Spaniards / Greeks not any immigrants. It's also notable that Ireland is a strong supporter of Palestine, having been brutalised by the English they obviously empathise.

.[/QUOTE]Mate I totally agree with you. There are some very good and decent and humane people in the west. When I condemn the collective west, I am talking about some of the pathetic and spineless and shameless governments in power over there, like in Germany, France, UK, etc. The support that say Ireland and Spain have shown the Palestinians is commendable.

What we really need is genetic research so women have a clitoris in the back of their throat and anti-gravity tits. We also need better brains and more empathy. We need more BJ's and less war.

There was a genetic study of arabs and jews, some 1400, and low and behold plenty of inter breeding. The differences are about ideology and religion pushed by politicians and various grifters to steal stuff, segment, differentiate etc for their own games. Same thing with Serbs and Croatia, massive inter breeding and linguistic crossover, but that does not suit. In WW2 the jew status was just a cover story to steal, and this pattern goes on and has been going on probably since caveman A said caveman be (with the better cave, water hole, whatever) was hairier or grunted differently and must be killed and their cave / water hole taken over. Colonialism, a genetic difference of melanocytes (ie skin color) as an excuse to enslave humans (now labelled animals) was built on this same pack of lies to justify exploitation. There are so many variants it get tiresome and boring, but politicians, when young, must marvel at the game and the greed and dreams it excites, just as a teenager learning the ropes from a old con man how easy it is to lie and manipulate with words, rigged side shows etc etc. Much easier than genuine merit, skill or hard work. Most politicians and lawyers (same swamp) are unemployable except as entertainers or menial employment. And they know it!

One you subtract the made up differences, theft and killing no longer looks cool because those you are stealing from are just like us. So they make up nationalistic songs, ridiculous myths, uniforms with ribbons, medals etc to manipulate, no different to a casino that attract the punters with bright lights to fleece them. Politicians depend on the population believing lies, just as con men paint a rosy picture, prey on weakness and greed and also pretend to have empathy and humility. In WW2 they hung "Lord Haw Haw" and others for propaganda, and the world knows about Julian Assange releasing footage "collateral damage" showing the ugly reality behind all the fake slogans of restoring democracy etc. Had the Nazi's won they would have hung Churchill for propaganda. Victors write the "history" or rather the made up narrative.

All the retail politics and breathless indignation of the punters is playing into their hands. What the corrupt politicians fear the most is exposure of their financial interests and parallel lives they keep secret. Nigeria is going through this right now, the French and US installed a corrupt puppet government (living in luxury in Paris and Swiss bank accounts) and brutal suppression to get cheap uranium. Naturally requests for extradition and tacking down the ill gotten gains are met with shrill denials and national security etc, but shows the western leaders to no give a toss about decency or blood money.

All the blame games, victim hood, and anyone who claims the other chap (insert pejorative claims) is X, and thus branded as X, may be mangled and killed. Look over there. But don't look over where as those in charge feather their nests. History is repetitive, con the population, steal, change of guard, repeat. And behind that are war profiteers, in the USA a huge cashed up industry President Eisenhower warned of.

This sounds all very cynical, but its the ugly truth, and its very hard to counter because by definition voters follow IQ distribution, meaning half are below average intelligence and at 2 or more standard deviations you have imbeciles voting. Politicians, like carnival wheel con men, know this and exploit it, just as people with bags of cash are welcomed into their offices but constituents are ignored as irrelevant to graft franchise the political seats are. UA eliminated that abolishing elections in order to save democracy. Typical.

I feel sorry for the young of Ukraine and Russia being mangled and crippled as the victims of their lack of thinking of who benefits and exactly what society they are supposedly fighting for. The Palestinians defined as non-Israel citizens in the area surrounding the current political map of Israel are being pushed out by force as a land grab, and no amount of bullshit can cover that up. If Israel was for real, the UN or a third country would be in there to rebuild and get out guns and bombs by everyone, ie, no material benefit to Israel once the threat was removed. But that was the never game. Your average American is a victim, we become despised and the money spent on killing devices could employ quality teachers, free trade schools, fresh food for kids and other useful stuff, but unfortunately no profit in that for those in charge.

I think it's time for a BJ to clear my mind and put a smile on may face and a mocha cocoa to clear the winter blues. Found a local SA girl, she thinks men are so quickly and easily made happy and affectionate it puzzles her why so many women don't give good BJ's. She thinks its some feminist claptrap and points to so much discussion by men about BJ's that it's easy to deduce they way to win heart, minds and wallets. She's a Ph.D in the sciences and a very sharp cookie. We are fast becoming friends, built on total honesty and happy, quality sex and intelligent discussion readily skewering falsified sacred cows like any good scientist. Apparently genetic engineering of humans is around, underground, and furthermore, the next 20 years will be a golden age of medicine, too bad about the collapsing society we live in :-(. In fact, she had the idea of a clitoris in the back of the throat and some fixes to shoulder tendons and also the tit tendons. I think she is onto something.

Ignore the lies of politicians and algorithm generated crap designed to manipulate your brain. Just follow the money. That's where truth is found.

Peace, health, happiness and prosperity to all.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2981336]So are you okay with what Israel is / has been doing in Gaza? Also, why did you put Palestinians in quotes?[/QUOTE]I couldn't be happier for you now that you've met a long-awaited anti-Semitic russophile soulmate (although it's sad that your newly acquired soulmate doesn't have the guts to respond to me directly). Still I can see how he's made you so chirpy and bubbly, exuberant even. Good for you!

But like I told your BFF -- if you want to discuss the plight of so-called "Palestinians", all you have to do is go to the appropriate section of this forum and start a new thread. That's not too complicated, is it?

This thread is not about Palestine. It's about the blood the Russian Failed Mafia Terrorist State is spilling in Ukraine. Stick to the subject matter.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2981531]I couldn't be happier for you now that you've met a long-awaited anti-Semitic russophile soulmate (although it's sad that your newly acquired soulmate doesn't have the guts to respond to me directly). Still I can see how he's made you so chirpy and bubbly, exuberant even. Good for you!

But like I told your BFF -- if you want to discuss the plight of so-called "Palestinians", all you have to do is go to the appropriate section of this forum and start a new thread. That's not too complicated, is it?

This thread is not about Palestine. It's about the blood the Russian Failed Mafia Terrorist State is spilling in Ukraine. Stick to the subject matter.[/QUOTE]The reason I didn't respond to you directly in the first instance was. As I've said in another thread- because I honoured Mark Twain's admonition: "don't argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you through experience".

Your accusations of anti-semitism are as contemptible as they are pathetic- and most reasonable people can see through your lies which people like you use as a shield to commit genocide and get away with it.

As for the reasons for bringing Palestine in the Ukraine thread- that too was explained. Try removing your head out of your posterior to read again, perhaps airing it will help. I doubt it though.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2981531]I couldn't be happier for you now that you've met a long-awaited anti-Semitic russophile soulmate (although it's sad that your newly acquired soulmate doesn't have the guts to respond to me directly). Still I can see how he's made you so chirpy and bubbly, exuberant even. Good for you!

But like I told your BFF -- if you want to discuss the plight of so-called "Palestinians", all you have to do is go to the appropriate section of this forum and start a new thread. That's not too complicated, is it?

This thread is not about Palestine. It's about the blood the Russian Failed Mafia Terrorist State is spilling in Ukraine. Stick to the subject matter.[/QUOTE]Dodged the question like the spineless coward that you are. You're a sick, disgusting racist. And of course, a delusional idiot, that's why it's fun owning your dumbass which I shall continue to do so.