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[QUOTE=Frannie;1554786]On the one hand you are writing here on a forum that is mainly concerned with prostitution and complaining that so many Dominican women are looking for money, and on the other hand you are stating that most of the women online have no interest in personal gain from relationships. Make up your mind.[/QUOTE]No complaint from me, because I know that I have choices and I know how to say NO! Everyone enters any type of relationship for personal gain. Financial gain is another matter. I show up at work for financial gain, for if they told me that they would no longer pay me, then I would no longer show up. I choose to mentor and tutor at my local high school for personal gain - in the form that I feel warm and fuzzy knowing that I am making a difference in some young peoples' lives and setting them on the right path. If you are in any type of relationship (not only talking about male-female, romance-based) where you are not getting anything from it (gain) then it is time to exit the relationship because you are just wasting time.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1554786]You are also saying that you tell them your name is Senor Tacano, so it seems likely that it is you just as much as them who tends to see relationships in terms of profit and loss.[/QUOTE]I said that I say this to hookers. Women who the basis for the 10-minute relationship IS cash for sex, not non-P4P women. In other words, I'm not giving a hooker more than is absolutely necessary to get her into a horizontal position. The only tip she is getting is the "TIP of this diiiiccckk!"

[QUOTE=Showdown; 1554812]But lets be honest. It is the same 10 guys or so on this board who respond and post almost everything in the DR form. But that's less than 1% of the guys who read this forum. The other 99. 9% just read and do not respond or post. Those are the guys who are most interested in a post like mine because we, like most men in the west, are hardwired-whether it is P4P or not.

But that does not make her or anyone else with a Dominican girlfriend (and BTW-because I met her on Tagged does not make her a prostitute; if that is your argument then half the women you met on OK Cupid and other USA dating sites are no better because they are after a sugar daddy as well) a dumb man who is taking care of a lifeless and lying Dominican women.

I pay the measly 6k pesos for her house because she is a nice girl and I care for her. And I think, in her own limited way, she cares for me as well.[/QUOTE]Great post Showdown. We all have our choices. I have met so many DR women who don't ask for a thing and who would not accept money or a man paying their bills. Believe it or not, there are some Dominican women who do have pride. Knowing these type of women, my mindset is why would I choose one who does constantly ask for this, that, and the other as a person I would want a relationship with?

We all have our "thing" as well. If your "thing" is to feel needed by taking a chick and setting her and her family up nice and that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside then do that. I would ask though, why not find a woman who isn't as needy and doesn't constantly beg for more and constantly test the waters to treat in this manner? You know, someone that really appreciates the shit and doesn't take it for granted.

As used to be the saying around Rio,"If you really want to know how they feel and how much they care about you, then show up without money." I have done that many times with women in the DR and have been treated the same as I would be had I been spending money. So I don't have a doubt as to their genuineness. Paraphrasing what a famous Black American singer once told me about his girlfriend: I know she is not with me for the money because I don't give her any.

[QUOTE=Showdown;1554812]Where do I start with my response.[/QUOTE]Very heartfelt! I am somewhat surprised that Enternational endorses for it appears to me he is contradicting himself. Not that I am on a mission to change anybody. Indeed it is good for him, if he can always draw the upper class DR women not needing anything but his love in exchange. I am not young / good looking, smart or famous enough to draw the young women in the US / EU that I can mingle with in the DR. So I have no illusion and money is a tool, and if it helps someone. Especially women with children or one plodding through a hard life, I am all for it, whether girl friend, an occasional tryst or something in between.

Yes, there is no doubt that there are misogynists on this board. BTW, I also do not want to downplay the American women. To me, women everywhere deserve respect and an individual experience does not detract from that point of view for after all, it takes two to tango, in good and in bad.

Finally, I would again salute you for your guts to open yourself up on this p4P forum to speak of matters of the heart.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1554514]Us older guys understand this, because if we get to spend a few nights having passionate sex with beautiful women less than half our age, the pleasure far outweighs any financial cost as it was already budgeted for.[/QUOTE]Actually it gets better. Each trip I add one or two women who are rather content to come and see me. They know that they can look forward to a time (short or longer) when they can let their hair down and enjoy a break, eating, drinking, laughing or making love without any delusion of any sorts.

By the way, I got two bikinis for two women this time only to find out that they too, like some of my previous experiences, do not know how to swim. LOL! Do you guys come across this?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1554861]Actually it gets better. Each trip I add one or two women who are rather content to come and see me. They know that they can look forward to a time (short or longer) when they can let their hair down and enjoy a break, eating, drinking, laughing or making love without any delusion of any sorts.

By the way, I got two bikinis for two women this time only to find out that they too, like some of my previous experiences, do not know how to swim. LOL! Do you guys come across this?[/QUOTE]I don't think I have met a single Dominicana that knows how to swim. On top of that you have the deal with them not wanting to get their extensions wet. I've coaxed my share of them into the water but only a few past their waist.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1554861]Actually it gets better. Each trip I add one or two women who are rather content to come and see me. They know that they can look forward to a time (short or longer) when they can let their hair down and enjoy a break, eating, drinking, laughing or making love without any delusion of any sorts.

By the way, I got two bikinis for two women this time only to find out that they too, like some of my previous experiences, do not know how to swim. LOL! Do you guys come across this?[/QUOTE]Mine all swim. Girls from the campo swim in rivers while doing the laundry. Haitianas all seem to be amphibian too.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1554870]I don't think I have met a single Dominicana that knows how to swim. On top of that you have the deal with them not wanting to get their extensions wet. I've coaxed my share of them into the water but only a few past their waist.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Indeed I had to coax these two but they and the others that I went to water with. None had hair extensions so did not run into that so far. However, it is kind of counter intuitive for me, to go to the beach if you cannot get in the water. Besides, at least in one instance, it was fun trying to enter the woman inside water with her bikini bottom off. Fortunately the water was calm but she was scared nonetheless and you cannot quite do it when the water level is low.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1554749]It is true that relatively recently in human history, with the invention of the birth control pill in the 1960s and the widespread movement of women into higher education and the workforce in the developed economies that there is a subclass of women who are economically independent and thus able to avoid pregnancy and use men purely as sex objects for their pleasure. Women like Jennifer Aniston or Rihanna or Wendy Deng come to mind, perhaps, but the vast majority of women would still much rather not work and enjoy an affluent lifestyle courtesy of a man, usually the father of her children if possible.[/QUOTE]This is probably got overlooked by lots of folks here, but Frannie just described the very essence of mongering (or rather, mongering is an attractive option for most of us).

Television, movies, romance novels, gossip rags, have all convinced females (even the ugly ones) that they deserve nothing less than a Channing Tatum or a Tyson Beckford; and these are the types that females (even the ugly ones) all are after. Being able to delay pregnancy (nothing wrong with that) allows them to be able to do so.

So where does that leave the rest of us?

I am a young professional and consider myself a good looking guy (who doesn't?). When I put up a dating profile on American dating sites my box gets flooded with messages from obese women. The "working professional" females (even the ugly ones) I send messages to do not respond to me. Some do, but it is usually the ones with two or three kids and maybe once or twice divorced.

When I put up a dating profile on Dominican Cupid, my inbox is flooded with messages from ATTRACTIVE chicas. So much so that I am getting bombarded while logged into the site, and usually am not even able to respond to all the messages and "interest" I get in one session. When I message VERY ATTRACTIVE chicas (punching 2 to 3 times above my weight) I get responses and phone numbers of said chicas 95% of the time.

Basically both scenarios really boil down to this:

You graduate college, have a successful entry level career, want to date an attractive American female on the same level.

The American female graduates college, has a successful entry level career, wants to date an attractive male on her same level OR a very successful or wealthy average to attractive male.

She doesn't need an average guy for support; she's got her own money and maybe no children to feed.

"Average successful" guy can't even get the attention of the "hood rats" because:

1) you are already taking care of her via government subsidies (food stamps, wic, Obamacare, EITC; the maximum EITC for a single person with three or more qualifying children is freakin $6,044!).

2) you are not "hood rich" like the local drug dealer or hustler/scammer; and therefore not a "real man"

3) you are smart (educated) enough not to even get involved with a hood rat to begin with.

Thankfully, your success is welcomed by the women in poorer countries like the DR and such; women who still value the role of the male being the provider for the family, and her in the traditional female role as the caretaker of the household.

But you'd better believe if the DR had a welfare system the size and scope of the US welfare system, you, I, and most of the male Dominicans would be assed-out, LOL!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1555077]This is probably got overlooked[/QUOTE]I wrote this from my iPhone, LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1554783]Reminds me of a broke chick I met recently in Santo Domingo who thought she was going to be the one to say how things were going to go down. I asked her if she had ever heard of the golden rule. She said no what is that. I said the person who has the gold makes the rules. You don't have any money and the last time I remember a person without money trying to make rules for a person with money was never. So stay in your lane and we will do things how I say or not do them at all. She finally got a clue.[/QUOTE]I just got off of whatsapp with her. She wants her nieces to come over for semana santa and just asked if 2k pesos is too much to with round trip bus fare for 2 and to buy them some clothes. She asked permission from beginning to end. She needs to continue with this behavior and all will be good.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1555077]This is probably got overlooked by lots of folks here, but Frannie just described the very essence of mongering (or rather, mongering is an attractive option for most of us).

Television, movies, romance novels, gossip rags, have all convinced females (even the ugly ones) that they deserve nothing less than a Channing Tatum or a Tyson Beckford; and these are the types that females (even the ugly ones) all are after. Being able to delay pregnancy (nothing wrong with that) allows them to be able to do so.

So where does that leave the rest of us?

I am a young professional and consider myself a good looking guy (who doesn't?). When I put up a dating profile on American dating sites my box gets flooded with messages from obese women. The "working professional" females (even the ugly ones) I send messages to do not respond to me. Some do, but it is usually the ones with two or three kids and maybe once or twice divorced.

When I put up a dating profile on Dominican Cupid, my inbox is flooded with messages from ATTRACTIVE chicas. So much so that I am getting bombarded while logged into the site, and usually am not even able to respond to all the messages and "interest" I get in one session. When I message VERY ATTRACTIVE chicas (punching 2 to 3 times above my weight) I get responses and phone numbers of said chicas 95% of the time.

Basically both scenarios really boil down to this:..[/QUOTE]Very well said Savepros. I have had the same experience with American dating sites vs. DC.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1555077]When I put up a dating profile on Dominican Cupid, my inbox is flooded with messages from ATTRACTIVE chicas. So much so that I am getting bombarded while logged into the site, and usually am not even able to respond to all the messages and "interest" I get in one session. When I message VERY ATTRACTIVE chicas (punching 2 to 3 times above my weight) I get responses and phone numbers of said chicas 95% of the time.[/QUOTE]Ok, but you can't come with bullshit if you are looking for a good one. The competition is there in quantity, but I guess quality leaves something to be desired. I say this because one of my girls was showing me the messages guys were writing her on cupid. She didn't care for how 99% of the guys looked and a bunch of older gentlemen were hitting her up as well which she said blah to. She doesn't even have time to look at that interest bullshit. You better be a paid member able to send messages and showing up in the country pretty damn soon.

Then there are other chicks who I was supposed to meet that chickened out. Here is what one said who was ashamed that she didn't have any money to get back and forth. Instead of begging for money like some chicks without home training do, she just stopped communicating while I was there: Hola * te pido disculpas se me complico todo why no pude atender te como mereces why si me dio un poco de miedo. Perdona. Es que no contaba con los recursos necesarios para llegar a ti why salir me dio mas vergüenza que miedo

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1555077]When I put up a dating profile on American dating sites my box gets flooded with messages from obese women. The "working professional" females (even the ugly ones) I send messages to do not respond to me. Some do, but it is usually the ones with two or three kids and maybe once or twice divorced.[/QUOTE]Man what are you talking about. I haven't been out in the states in so long. Last week I called myself going out to a spot called Dugan's here in Atlanta. I swear on my grandmother's grave that every single chick in there was big and bigger. And the only couple of big cute ones were with their husbands. I don't even like small chicks, but damn, a brother couldn't even get a medium sized one that night.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1555275]Ok, but you can't come with bullshit if you are looking for a good one. The competition is there in quantity, but I guess quality leaves something to be desired. I say this because one of my girls was showing me the messages guys were writing her on cupid. She didn't care for how 99% of the guys looked and a bunch of older gentlemen were hitting her up as well which she said blah to. She doesn't even have time to look at that interest bullshit. You better be a paid member able to send messages and showing up in the country pretty damn soon.[/QUOTE]Something has been fucked up with the message forum lately. I tried quoting your post above, but when I hit "reply" there is nothing in the post. I literally had to take the



QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1555275

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Tags, cut what you said, then paste it between the tags. Too much work, LOL.

I took these photos on my iPhone. They are of my inbox when I receive alerts from Latin American Cupid. I did not capture any name twice. This is in one day / one log in session. I am only able to post 5 photos at a time on ISG, but I'm just posting them to show the contrast I was talking about. If I have time tomorrow I will post the results I have from American dating sites like OK Cupid or Plenty of Fish (POF). I have a paid account on POF, so I can see if a message I have sent has been read. Something as simple as "Hello, how are you this evening" that I send to a female; I check my "sent" folder and see to see if she has read it. Sometimes it says "read, deleted", or even "unread, deleted", LOL. I bullshit you not.

And here is a just a sample of the females that I have gotten contact info from on LAC and who hit me up when I log in. Night and day compared to what happens when I log into American dating sites. Notice that "Latin American Cupid" is NOT written at the bottom of any of these photos. That is because you would have to personally know these chicas in order to get these photos of them. Just pointing this out so that no one here thinks I am bullshitting them.

[b]Advanced notice to the forum:[/b] please do not PM me asking for contact info. I won't even respond.

If you see your "novia" posted, I apologize in advance, lol.