Panama City

[QUOTE=Wrong Places;1424077]I'm not one of those cheap bastard mongers who squeezes every dime but the $100-200 it would have cost me isn't a trifle either and I simply saw no one I liked that well. I don't have the fetish for 19 year olds nor do I Holy Grail for the perfect 10 and almost all of the girls in these places look too hard-eyed professional for my taste. Many were very attractive but I need more than pure looks. I had no interest and did not explore any of the massage places.[/QUOTE]If I'm going to pay $100 to $200, I'll stick to Craigslist, USA; Panama is by far the most overpriced mongering destination.

Looking forward to my trip to Thailand where I can have a girl for the 10 days I'm there for that price.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd; 1432297]If I'm going to pay $100 to $200, I'll stick to Craigslist, USA; Panama is by far the most overpriced mongering destination.

Looking forward to my trip to Thailand where I can have a girl for the 10 days I'm there for that price.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of low-cost options in Panama City and a few of them have some pretty attractive girls.

That said, does anyone know if La Mayor is still closed or if they are looking at opening somewhere else?

[QUOTE=Tbuss;1432692]There are plenty of low-cost options in Panama City and a few of them have some pretty attractive girls.[/QUOTE]Can you provide more info on this? Also, what do you consider low cost? I know, for instance, that Costa Rica can be pretty inexpensive if you know what you're doing. I'm wondering if Panama City is the same deal?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1432693]Can you provide more info on this? Also, what do you consider low cost? I know, for instance, that Costa Rica can be pretty inexpensive if you know what you're doing. I'm wondering if Panama City is the same deal?[/QUOTE]I don't usually frequent them, but a search on this board should turn some info up. Taxi drivers will likewise know where to find them. In Casco Viejo there were two places that I know of, Bocatoreno and La Mayor. I used to like La Mayor but I believe they are closed now. Pricing was $15 or so for 15 minutes and $30 or so for 1/2 hour. Other places are La Grota Azul, Relax Oriental and Carribean something or other.

The place is still closed. Don't know if they are moving.

[QUOTE=HeydopBob;1433015]The place is still closed. Don't know if they are moving.[/QUOTE]Hey, great first post! But, like, WHAT place did you drive by that was still closed?

FNGs. Got to love 'them!

[QUOTE=Dickhead; 1433092]Hey, great first post! But, like, WHAT place did you drive by that was still closed?

FNGs. Got to love 'them![/QUOTE]He was replying to the request to know if La Mayor was still closed. I'm very sorry to hear they still are, that was the only low-end place that I really liked.

Panama can be a very frustrating place to visit and make new friends it seems every time I'm here the scene changes. There are now many high end hotels in Panama. The high end hotels which are friendly to overnight guests you may bring in are Hilton, Trump and Hard Rock and Radisson but the Hard Rock and Radisson charge you $100. It seems like a scam to me usually some people behind the desks handle these transactions while others will not. The security guards seem in on it and usually patrol the doors with the transaction slips where they approach you and escort you to the front desk. I feel no shame in the registering thing it just pisses me off that after booking for double occupancy they would find a way to unfairly shaft you. There are many ways around this of course, just stay at a cheaper venue or avoid the hotels that do charge. The HIilton and the Trump will not stress you for those of you that wish to stay for your own reasons at a upscale hotel.

It was explained to me that the hotel charge issue mirrored what happens in Colombia having never stayed at a hotel in Colombia only apartments I cannot comment. I was also told that the rise in popularity of the Veneto and Habano girls has led to the hotels stepping up their game with regard to security. Free lance girls have been bad in the past in many hotels. During TLN things laptops, money and other valuables went missing which led to the hotel guest and hotel getting into conflict over whose fault it was and usually there is nothing that can be done. With a girl from an established house like Golden Time or Elite its not a problem to find them again and usually these girls won't do that sort of thing. Free lancers can disappear and reappear within the confines of their stay in Panama. Hence the reason for the registering at the front desk. Some time ago the Radisson security would call your room at whatever time of night or early morning to enquire if all was well while the girl was stopped at the hotel door. Still does not explain the hotel scam charge as I like to call it but it is part of the problem of profiteering over the mongering scene in Panama the next culprit is the taxi drivers and they are by far the worst.

On a recent visit for the first time ever I was refused TLN on all occassions at Golden Time. Golden Time opens at 7pm and should be your first stop if possible many a diamond in the rough I have found there including an incredible beautiful paisa that blew my mind for 4 days some time ago after I met her I could not see anyone else which is rare for me.

The no TLN at Golden Time troubled me greatly I knew there was more to it but could not at the time understand why. I spoke to 3 girls in the line up. 3 quite attractive girls and they all refused. I was by the way stuck with a red sticker on my way in and thought this may have been the problem but this happened almost everyday I went there for my entire stay. I did session in Golden Time because of one particular hottie there and it was great. I spoke to her about TLN and she refused but agreed off record to seeing me during the day. You may not have the same experience with TLN as I had so for sure you need to visit Golden Time it still reflects best value for money. The girl I had the great session with had an incredible body and Kim Kardashian look except not as fat. She explained that Golden Time cut the girls hours particularly on a Sunday when they work only until 1am. TLN on a Sunday was not worth it because the house only paid them until 1am so less money for the TLN. Girls from Golden Time can find themselves taking home at most $200 for TLN which is strictly 4 hrs or so. This is not worth it for them and the house is happier with chicas inside than out. The way around this for those of us that simply must have that special girl is to negociate with them extra fee. TLN is $350 after the house take even $100 more can make the deal for the girl. This I agree is not the option for the budget minded visitor but for others you can still have what you want.

Elite is always so much fun. The $30 cover charge is a waste because it only covers very few drinks all very cheap. Watch your bill here as the waiters can be crafty. Very nice girls here and surprise there is a mix of colombianas and dominicans both attractive. Took home a lovely girl from Elite and have no complaints she stayed till late morning, BBBJ was on the menu sex at night and in the morning playful and passionate, we had a few drinks in the bars before hitting la cama. Take a private dance if you would at $30 in one of the private booths to check out the goods with your eyes and hands then decide and pay the bar fine after checking your bill and leave. Pricey but worth it.

Le Palace is simply the best, the only places that come close are in Buenos Aires and La Mansion in Bogota which I hear may be closed. The pricing is high but simple. 2hrs for $300 plus bar fine of $140 drinks bought for the girl you take out are deducted from the bar fine so do check to make sure. TLN is $500 plus bar fine of $190 drinks for the girl you bar fine deductable. The best quality girls in Panama. I always have an amazing time and I have been lucky since the first years to choose girls that give great service. Treat them well buy a few drinks, relax insist that, quiero buen sevicio, servicio primera clase and negociatewhat you want. This is most important at whatever price point to detemine what you want and what she can give. Some girls speak english. I formed an attachment to 2 girls that were amigas that I saw most / all of the time and we got along fabulously I never saw them both on the same night because I have my monetary limitations but I got everything I could have wanted passion, DFK, BBBJ, super sex and even CIM after the first couple sessions. I also really enjoyed their company despite my spanish not being up to par. Very good fantasy stuff I live off the memories daily. Chemistry obviously helps so don't treat her as just a puta the latino guys do that well enough.

So I hung out with my girls some days and most nights and we arrived at a problem when they refused to go out with my preferred taxi driver who I really like. After much interrogating because I feel safe with my guy and was not going to dump him because they said so I finally found out on the penultimate night where my preferred of the 2 and I went out at night after hanging out all day. She did not report in to work but went straight home and got dressed and then I picked her up with a normal taxi because she was frantic about not using my guy. After dinner and drinks and party and drinks and muchos besos all was revealed and it made sense so I believed it.

You see taxi drivers play a very important role for the chica places in Panama city. They are rewarded by commissions some for every person they bring and then more if the person leaves with a girl. Certain places are very competitive such as Le Palace. Here the girl has to pay the taxi $50 when she leaves with a person he brought in. The effect of this is simple places like Golden Time offer no profit for the taxi driver who gets very little in comparison if his passenger leaves with a TLN from Golden Time hence the reason it was super important for my guy to get me to Le Palace every night and why I feel I was blocked at Golden Time. My girls owed him a not inconsiderable amount which was why they did not want him to know when they were seeing me on the nights they did not report in but for which I paid the multa; they paid later.

I must say that this is the problem with Panama, taxis and hotels skimming money off the top from mongers and chicas which adds to the cost of the visitor and increases the prices of the girls or conversely because the girls can't raise prices too high they give less. Its preposterous that a cabbie I'm not fucking gets $50 everytime I pull a girl from Le Palace or can block me from TLN at other places where the commission is not as great. I did interrogate my guy as to why I did not get TLN at Golden Time and I never got a straight answer all the way to the airport. Chicas bring in a lot of money and everyone wants a piece of it.

That being said Panama is still a place to go for quality, good looks and good service can be had in a safe place. Budget options also abound but if you want to go first class you won't regret it.

[QUOTE=Sato San;1437336]Budget options also abound but if you want to go first class you won't regret it.[/QUOTE]Are there decent options for $30-$35 USD?

[QUOTE=Sato San; 1437336]I must say that this is the problem with Panama, taxis and hotels skimming money off the top from mongers and chicas which adds to the cost of the visitor and increases the prices of the girls or conversely because the girls can't raise prices too high they give less. Its preposterous that a cabbie I'm not fucking gets $50 everytime I pull a girl from Le Palace or can block me from TLN at other places where the commission is not as great. I did interrogate my guy as to why I did not get TLN at Golden Time and I never got a straight answer all the way to the airport. Chicas bring in a lot of money and everyone wants a piece of it.

That being said Panama is still a place to go for quality, good looks and good service can be had in a safe place. Budget options also abound but if you want to go first class you won't regret it.[/QUOTE]here's a tip, walk from Marriot hotel or Habanos its just round the corner tell them you walked and no fifty dollar I'm a stupid **** tax. Walk during the day if you wish to get your bearings first.

Saying that paying the rate at Le Palace means you are a rich **** or a stupid **** frankly I am neither.

Go to Habanos instead there are some sexy girls there, for around $150 for an hour and a half. I seriously doubt you will be disappointed.

Love Handler,

I am familiar with Habanos, Veneto and Boca Torena. They don't appeal to me the way the other places I may frequent do.

You are not correct to assume that walking to LePalace means no cabbie fine however the fine is not paid by you its paid by the girl, if you leave with a girl then you will have to walk to where you are going or else the girl will not take a cab that is not from Le Palace, try it and see. Not to confuse anyone, the cabbie fine, as it were, may not always be passed to the punter some girls if they have a large turnover can afford it and others who do not may decide to pass it on or ask for a propina towards it the prices at Le Palace however are standard for Long Time and short Time they do not fluctuate at all. The fine is just part of the culture of working there. The point was the real value of the punt is less than it appears to be for the chica and this may have an impact on service. Cabbies and chicas have business relationships why do you think there is a taxi stand in front of both Habanos and Veneto.

It is good for there to be varied experiences posted on the forum and for those reading the Panama forum for some time it would seem to be that the only worthwhile experiences are to be had at Habanos, Veneto ect. This is untrue and for those who can there is better and different to be had at Elite, Le Palace and Golden Time. There is the added benefit of the girls there having a schedule of health checks which is good for all parties involved.

Thanks for the advice

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1439807]here's a tip, walk from Marriot hotel or Habanos its just round the corner tell them you walked and no fifty dollar I'm a stupid * tax. Walk during the day if you wish to get your bearings first.

Saying that paying the rate at Le Palace means you are a rich * or a stupid * frankly I am neither.

Go to Habanos instead there are some sexy girls there, for around $150 for an hour and a half. I seriously doubt you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Another option is to grab a local newspaper and call some of girls advertised under personal services escorts. Also agencies advertise in the paper and the girls either come to you or you go to there apartment. Panama is getting more developed like here and many girls have gone online to earn more, avoid family / friend seeing them in street or casinos, and avoid the police. The police have rounded up girls in the streets recently outside the casinos in the Cangrejo, reason police round them up is because massage and strip bars pay taxes and payoffs to government officials and these people want you to patronize the girls working in massage and strip bars etc.