2006 Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Wendella]Where would a guy go exactly by taxi to hop out and check this scene out? Also, what's a good time to go? I've been by Siam Hotel (inside and outside) before and have seen very few girls around, so if there's 50 or 60 like Horntoad said, I obviously wasn't there at the right time.

Where would you have the taxi take you to, exactly? Hopefully something that will be possible for a non-Thai speaker to communicate to him. People are saying 'the road behind Siam Hotel' or 'behind Mona Lisa' but not sure which road that is. And how far apart are Siam and Mona Lisa? Where are the girls in relation to these 2 spots?

All these questions because I've always meant to check this area out properly, but always came up lame on it.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Wendella,

I think we are talking Apples and Oranges here. I suspect that you stayed at the Siam City Hotel on Phayathai near Siam Square. The Siam Hotel is a well known short time hotel and is a neighbor to the Mona Lisa massage parlor on New Petchaburi road.

If you stayed at the Siam Hotel, you would not miss the Mona Lisa massage parlor. Have the taxi take you to the Mona Lisa massage parlor and check out the Siam Hotel coffee shop. There are two coffee shops, only one of them has the majority of the girls. The reason I suggest having the taxi take you to the Mona Lisa, is there's less confusion. If you tell them Siam Hotel, you may most likely end up at the Siam City Hotel.

The girls previously hung out in front of the Siam Hotel, but I believe most are now either in the coffee shop or in the back of the hotel. I'm not sure if Law enforcement had anything to do with it, or just the visibility on that back road. The back road of the hotel, is where Tom II saw all of the girls. Anywhere from 30-100 girls on any given night. Lot's of cars cruising by checking them out. Prime time is around 1:00am - 3:00am in the morning.

You see almost 100% Asian customers, Thai, Japanese, Korean, etc. I'm not sure how accepting they are of Non-Asian customers. Like Giotto just mentioned, most of the girls speak primarily Thai. This area has been called the Thai's Thermae, although the quality is more like the Nana area. Sometimes better.

Good luck!
AT2

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

I was in BKK abote a week ago, and was touring with Dr. Love. (was a very good idea) I want to get an overview of all the locations and the action.

We then alo went to a bar wich was called "Champagne Bar or Lounge".

We spend just 30 minutes there, but I realyliked the place, and the girls.

Now my question:

I think I never read somthing about the place in the ISG, why is this?

What do "known man" think of it.

Please help me with some advice.

Thx[/QUOTE]

Will,

I don't know if I qualify as a "known man", but the Champagne Room is a very nice upscale bar. It has been mentioned before, but you are right, there have not been many if any reviews. It's billed as an upscale Gentlemen's club, and is pricey for BKK. That means less traffic, which to me is a good thing, but also less feedback on the threads. It's new, so that may also be a reason why so little pub. Finally, it's a "members" club, although I was not required to join. Spent over 5,000 baht easy though, for drinks, take out and the girls tip. The membership starts at around 20,000 baht, just to put it in perspective.

It was the site of a "hands free" restaurant if I'm not mistaken. Many of the girls freelance and you could get them for less somewhere else, but it's nice to have them all in one place. It's located near the JW Marriott and near Soi 4 (Near Soi 6-8, if I recall correctly?).

They have a website:
[url]http://www.champagneroombkk.com/[/url]

Bottom line, if you like it, who cares what anyone else thinks. Enjoy!

AT2

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

I was in BKK abote a week ago, and was touring with Dr. Love. (was a very good idea) I want to get an overview of all the locations and the action.

We then alo went to a bar wich was called "Champagne Bar or Lounge".

We spend just 30 minutes there, but I realyliked the place, and the girls.

Now my question:

I think I never read somthing about the place in the ISG, why is this?

What do "known man" think of it.

Please help me with some advice.

Thx[/QUOTE]

Correct, it was the "No Hands" about two or three years ago.

Having visited the "No Hands" , but not the Champagne Room, I would assume that like the former it is over priced and not likely to be frequented by members of this forum, some of which, just want to find the cheapest place to drink and screw. It you want to join a "member" bar I recommend the Pegagus.

OK the directions and information about time of night to go help a lot. I did go to the right place, just at the wrong time, about 10-11pm if I remember right. There was no confusion between names for whichever hotel, I was in the right place on Petchaburi Road, for sure. I made my way over there on my own, and at the time I was actually staying at a hotel down in the Siam Square area and not any with Siam in the name.

Last question: is Mona Lisa west or east of Siam Hotel? I got that it's 500m away from it, but in which direction. Or if you face Siam Hotel, is Mona Lisa to the right of it or the left of it on Petchaburi Road? Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Correct, it was the "No Hands" about two or three years ago.

Having visited the "No Hands" , but not the Champagne Room, I would assume that like the former it is over priced and not likely to be frequented by members of this forum, some of which, just want to find the cheapest place to drink and screw. It you want to join a "member" bar I recommend the Pegagus.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Thanks on your information abote the champ. Room. Now I am very interrest. In the pegasus. Can you tell me something abote it? Adresse, cost, ambience etc.

I will be back in BKK in 3 weeks so I like to find out.

Thanks

Some quick first impressions of BKK:

OMG they're beautiful, and there are so MANY of them!

The skytrain makes Sukhumvit seem dark.

Rain sucks.

The girls at Annie's soapy parlor are nowhere near as good-looking as the girls I saw in the beer bars around Nana, but the soapy was phenomenal and the attitude was A+. I value attitude highly, so I went away happy. Damage was 1500 + a 500 tip. Like I said, I value attitude.

I stopped for a beer nearby and it turned into four or so beers. Sat with a couple of Irish guys. Could not understand half of what they said. Good music, though, Beatles, Pink Floyd, stuff I like.

At the table to my right a young guy grabbed my arm, pointed to the speaker system and announced: That guy playing the bass ... it's my dad! And then he pointed to his dad, who was sitting across from him. And I think: Shit, my dad never showed ME anything like this!

I walked from Nana to Soi 33 last night after the train shut down and most of the blocks had at least one or two girls who were giving me The Look.

Staying at Livingstone's, and it's meeting my expectations. Not cheap! But very friendly, comfortable, clean. I may try one of their girls later.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

Thanks on your information abote the champ. Room. Now I am very interrest. In the pegasus. Can you tell me something abote it? Adresse, cost, ambience etc.

I will be back in BKK in 3 weeks so I like to find out.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Pegagus is HI-CLASS! Check Google for Pegagus Club Bangkok and the information should come up. Plan on a couple of hundred US Dollars. The Pegagus is co-located with the Narcissis Nightclub. It's hard to explain how to get there so check the website. It's off Soi 23 past Soi Cowboy.

For the best selection of girls get there early before the Japanese and Chinese arrive which is around 9 - 10 pm. Anything later and it isn't worth the effort.

You will have to pay an entry fee (I think it's around 1K baht) and the drinks aren't cheap, about what you would pay in an upscale bar in a five star hotel.

Girls are probably going to start at around 4K. No shorts or sandals and they have rooms upstairs for a couple of thousand or you can take the girls back to your place.

There are some stunners in the Pegagus, but paeng mak!

Greetings Gentlemen,

I visited a few of the so called Artist bars on Soi 33 recently and was wondering if anyone had any experience taking a girl out for the night - and at what cost?

I know some of you will say, 'this is Bangkok, everything is for sale' however if anyone has first hand experience I'd love to know.

It may sound strange but my work brings me to Bangkok regularly and although I consider myself to be a 'seasoned traveller', I saw a girl working in the Renoir bar that made me go weak at the knees and I just felt like a shy schoolboy. Too shy to ask the obvious question!!

You've got to love this place if it can still have that effect on a guy who's school days seem but a distant memory!

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Pegagus is HI-CLASS! Check Google for Pegagus Club Bangkok and the information should come up. Plan on a couple of hundred US Dollars. The Pegagus is co-located with the Narcissis Nightclub. It's hard to explain how to get there so check the website. It's off Soi 23 past Soi Cowboy.

For the best selection of girls get there early before the Japanese and Chinese arrive which is around 9 - 10 pm. Anything later and it isn't worth the effort.

You will have to pay an entry fee (I think it's around 1K baht) and the drinks aren't cheap, about what you would pay in an upscale bar in a five star hotel.

Girls are probably going to start at around 4K. No shorts or sandals and they have rooms upstairs for a couple of thousand or you can take the girls back to your place.

There are some stunners in the Pegagus, but paeng mak![/QUOTE]Wow thats sounds perfect. THANKS.

I am not looking for chep chep.

But I am not able to finde the website of the club on the web (nor google). No chance.

it's still raining in bangkok -- not a real rain exactly, more of a slow drizzle. there are so many street vendors that you can walk down sukhumvit and avoid becoming soaked by ducking under their tarps and umbrellas. that's what i did friday.

after an early-afternoon visit to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, the notorious bj bar, i tired of dodging raindrops so i headed back to livingstone's on soi 33, where i'm staying.

soi33 has a slower, quieter and more upscale feel than nana entertainment plaza -- once you get past the messy row of food vendors and general chaos at the intersection with sukhumvit. it's the street of the bars named for artists, mostly but not all french impressionists -- monet, degas, renoir, gauguin, goya, van gogh and dali. in the evening when the girls come out, they're dressed in finery, lots of long black dresses to go with their long black hair.

but it was still early -- around 4:30 -- so i wandered farther down soi 33. i ducked into pheeran spa, a legit-looking, upscale-appearing place that had none of the tackiness of the neighboring places with names like teen massage and love teeny.

two hours later i had a new understanding of the different ways the human body can be twisted by a deceptively strong 40-year-old thai lady, and a nice warm glow. there is nothing quite like a real thai massage. she urged me to come back tomorrow and try the third-floor upstairs service for an oil massage, which i assume is something that can end happily.

back to livingstone's for dinner. there are street vendors everywhere but i'd hate to spend tomorrow on the can, so i took the safe option. livingstone's was out of curry, which i favor, so i had a very mild, very sweet and sour fried chicken with vegetables and rice. the menu seems to cover a whole range from spicy thai to wimpy farang food, including burgers.

after dinner things were picking up at livingstone's bar but i needed cash, so i headed out to sukhumvit in search of an atm.

on a whim i kept walking west and when i saw little italy i knew i was at soi 23, which is the gateway to the infamous soi cowboy. (google bangkok bob's excellent soi cowboy map.)

soi cowboy is a delight -- much more gaudy than soi 33 while less cluttered than nana plaza. it's lined with bright signs and costumed girls. the schoolgirl motif seems to be highly favored. the street is closed to traffic, so it's like a shopping mall, and for some reason it seems a lot cleaner than nana.

i ignored the stand selling fried bugs and, since it was still happy hour, ducked into the doll house for a 50-baht beer. the stage was jammed with exposed nipples attached to variously sized titties attached to swaying girls, and the place had a fairly decent crowd of mostly white, mostly older men, but there didn't seem to be any interaction happening. i sipped my beer, then paid and left.

next stop was baccara, which has dealt with the widely publicized crackdown on nude dancing differently. its girls wear little wisps of fabric top and bottom, and if you're seated at the dance bar you can look up at occasional glimpses of heaven. the dancers will then smile as if embarrassed and tug their tiny dresses down, but of course they ride right back up.

i was immediately targeted by a girl named ai, not a dancer but obviously working there.

she worked quite well, too, cuddling up close to me, massaging my thigh, nibbling on my ear, kissing and occasionally rubbing mr. happy. after each of us had a drink, i paid the 600 baht barfine. she changed into street clothes and we headed out.

we hailed a tuk-tuk for a 100 baht ride to soi 33, racing through the traffic. it's hard to see out of a tuk-tuk unless you're 4 feet tall, as the canopy obscures everything, so we overshot livingstone's and had to walk back.

i think ai was a bit worried about what sort of hotel we were heading for, since i told her i was not staying at novotel, but once she saw livingstone's her eyes lit up.

it was her first visit to soi 33, so we took a table by the pool. she had a mai tai and i had a beer as we sat and talked. her english was marginal -- but she said she had only studied in a 3-week intensive course after moving to bangkok.

when i returned from a visit to the can she was talking on her mobile. she explained that she was checking up on her sister, who was in the hospital. i didn't take that bait and changed the subject successfully.

we adjourned to my room for a shower and a full gfe. no, that's not right, because a real gf generally doesn't do such a great, thorough, enthusiastic blowjob. we tried the various positions and eventually finished by coming in her mouth, which was worth every bit of the 2000 baht. i also enjoyed her nipples, which were nearly as big as the last joint on my little finger. yummy.

we cuddled for awhile, and she asked if i wanted her to stay, but it was clear that she was negotiating to leave, as it was only about 11 p.m. and she might be able to score another customer before closing time. i let her go, avoiding any more conversations about sick relatives who might need assistance, or any issues with my valuables, etc.

[QUOTE=Wendella]

Last question: is Mona Lisa west or east of Siam Hotel? I got that it's 500m away from it, but in which direction. Or if you face Siam Hotel, is Mona Lisa to the right of it or the left of it on Petchaburi Road? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
Mona Lisa entrance is on North side of Petchburi road, east of Soi Asoke and the MRT underground and at the end of Petchburi overpass ramp and west of Siam Hotel not even 500 metres.

[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Some quick first impressions of BKK:

OMG they're beautiful, and there are so MANY of them!

The skytrain makes Sukhumvit seem dark.

Rain sucks.

The girls at Annie's soapy parlor are nowhere near as good-looking as the girls I saw in the beer bars around Nana, but the soapy was phenomenal and the attitude was A+. I value attitude highly, so I went away happy. Damage was 1500 + a 500 tip. Like I said, I value attitude.

I stopped for a beer nearby and it turned into four or so beers. Sat with a couple of Irish guys. Could not understand half of what they said. Good music, though, Beatles, Pink Floyd, stuff I like.

At the table to my right a young guy grabbed my arm, pointed to the speaker system and announced: That guy playing the bass ... it's my dad! And then he pointed to his dad, who was sitting across from him. And I think: Shit, my dad never showed ME anything like this!

I walked from Nana to Soi 33 last night after the train shut down and most of the blocks had at least one or two girls who were giving me The Look.

Staying at Livingstone's, and it's meeting my expectations. Not cheap! But very friendly, comfortable, clean. I may try one of their girls later.[/QUOTE]I will stay at Livingstone in 2 weeks. How are the girls around this place? Do you have a good choice or is it better to go to Cowboy. I prefer young-looking girls. Have you experience taking out a massage girl? Do they stay overnight?

[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]
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When I returned from a visit to the can she was talking on her mobile. She explained that she was checking up on her sister, who was in the hospital. I didn't take that bait and changed the subject successfully.

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We cuddled for awhile, and she asked if I wanted her to stay, but it was clear that she was negotiating to leave, as it was only about 11 p.m. and she might be able to score another customer before closing time. I let her go, avoiding any more conversations about sick relatives who might need assistance, or any issues with my valuables, etc.[/QUOTE]

Good report dude, just one or two things, not everything these girls say is a way of getting money out of you, some will tell you things about themselves and family that a western hooker wouldn't dream of mentioning. And not all girls want to nick off (especially at 11pm) to get another customer. If anything she might have been wording you up for an all nighter, especially if she had had a good time with you.

You will find if you play along a little instead of jumping to conculsions and you can really make it work for you, so long as you are aware and don't get raelly sucked in you would be ok.

[QUOTE=Thwaites]I visited a few of the so called Artist bars on Soi 33 recently and was wondering if anyone had any experience taking a girl out for the night - and at what cost? I know some of you will say, 'this is Bangkok, everything is for sale' however if anyone has first hand experience I'd love to know. It may sound strange but my work brings me to Bangkok regularly and although I consider myself to be a 'seasoned traveller', I saw a girl working in the Renoir bar that made me go weak at the knees and I just felt like a shy schoolboy. Too shy to ask the obvious question![/QUOTE]

Well, don't be shy. Any lady of suitable age in a bar on Soi 33 is available for the right amount of money. Just ask. However, you do not need to be boorish about it and ask bluntly if her pussy is for rent. Why not strike a conversation and suggest that you and her head up for a drink back at your hotel. She will let you know what she can do for you.

This being said, in my view, the lasses in the painters bars of Soi 33 are mostly just the same farm girls that you can find in Soi CowBoy, but with nicer dresses. They might look a bit classier, but the marginally better looks do not necessarily translate into a better performance, and do not justify the significantly more expensive bar fine and fee.

By experience, I mean not just the sexual attention, but also and foremost the pleasantness of being with a lady. I have only limited experience of those bars, but I found that many girls there have a chip on their shoulder. They believe they are part of an elite, end they behave accordingly.

I would love if there was a place in Bangkok where paying more would mean having systematically access to more beautiful, educated and pleasant ladies. The Gentleman's clubs like Pegasus seem to be in that segment of the market, but I doubt that they truly ensure a better experience. The only thing guaranteed is a stratospheric bill. You might have a good time there with one of their ladies, but there is no guarantee. I suppose that being fluent in Thai would help ensure a good time through the nice chat that the ladies could provide, but with their broken English, one is quickly longing to hit the sack. And then the sex might be good or poor, just like with any other bar girl.

[QUOTE=Thwaites]Greetings Gentlemen,

I know some of you will say, 'this is Bangkok, everything is for sale' however if anyone has first hand experience I'd love to know.

It may sound strange but my work brings me to Bangkok regularly and although I consider myself to be a 'seasoned traveller', I saw a girl working in the Renoir bar that made me go weak at the knees and I just felt like a shy schoolboy. Too shy to ask the obvious question!!

[/QUOTE]

Too shy? They are working girls! LOL! The bar fines are 1,200 to 1,500 baht. I don't pay too much attention to price, hence the price range. Get over the shyness. It will limit your experiences and I don't think that will play well with the rest of the guys on the board. If you hesitate at a Go-Go bar, the girl you want may be pulled off stage by a more aggressive hobbyist! We are all different, but just a bit of advice.

While the prices are higher, I don't think the girls are any better looking than you will find elsewhere. Just better dressed. I will say, they do seem to be more GFE than say Nana girls. In general, they are not trying to get back to the bar to score a 2nd "date". While some of the girls do exhibit some aloofness, it's not an across the board thing and the girls I have spent time with were very down to earth.

The most stunning girl I ever saw in BKK was in one of the Soi 33 bars, but alas she did not go out with anyone but Thai guys and spoke no english. That's what I was told, but maybe it was just me? LOL! I went to see if she was still there a few months later to see if she opened up, and she was no longer there.

AT2