Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2805470]Bingo. Also, in my experience, Asian women will 100% of the time give you a BBBJ as part of the service where as with Latin / South American / Spanish women you won't be so lucky. I was in the Carribean (Dominican Republic) and couldn't believe most women there wanted a covered BJ, plus obviously most do not know English, plus some will take your shit that you leave out (shirts, snacks, toiletries, etc.) It made me miss Thailand even more. I never had an Asian take a single thing in my room. Nothing.

Maybe one day I will give Colombia a try, but between drugs, robbing, bad covered BJs, and learning Spanish, I think I'll wait a while.[/QUOTE]Imo Colombia is very overrated and Brazil blows it out of the water. In terms of sexual performance, Thai girls are poor in bed compared to the Brazilians.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2805470]Bingo. Also, in my experience, Asian women will 100% of the time give you a BBBJ as part of the service where as with Latin / South American / Spanish women you won't be so lucky. I was in the Carribean (Dominican Republic) and couldn't believe most women there wanted a covered BJ, plus obviously most do not know English, plus some will take your shit that you leave out (shirts, snacks, toiletries, etc.) It made me miss Thailand even more. I never had an Asian take a single thing in my room. Nothing.

Maybe one day I will give Colombia a try, but between drugs, robbing, bad covered BJs, and learning Spanish, I think I'll wait a while.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is standard in Thailand. As far as Latina women, I've only mongered in Tijuana and quite extensively and can say easily that Thai girls give way better service. Everything from attitude to the actual deed. The Tijuana girls give off that western girl entitlement vibe which I can't stand. Maybe they're different in Colombia, but from what I hear and read that is not so.

[QUOTE=XViking;2805475]"Off of Buakhao is Soi Boomerang which also has a handful of decent GC's. As for mongering- I would start with the GC's in BongKot, Boomerang and near Pothole during the day (3-4 ish), then have a TF girl come over for ST- and if she flakes or afterwards, go to Soi Pothole or LK Metro. The next day substitute one of these options with Soi 6."

What are SC and TF? Both lacking in the Abbreviations. Thank you.[/QUOTE]TF = ThaiFriendly. It is an online "dating" site but really 90% of the gals on there are freelancers. You ask about SC but do you mean GC? GC stands for Gentlemen's Club which is usually a bar with a closed front.

[QUOTE=NewT556;2805356]For anyone currently in Pattaya. What are the actual ST prices and long time prices? I haven't been over since the covid BS. Skimming thru this for a few pages prices seem to be all over the place. I think some posters just out right lie. I do know Costa Rica is ruined girls wanting $200 us dollars and up for one hour last week! Hotel del rey closed down! I stayed one night rebooked my airfare and left. Coloumbia is ruined as well. The cruise ships ruined Cartegna and the idiots with utube channels telling everyone. I'm am scared this will happen in Pattaya these damn retards with utube channels telling everything. Tons of utube videos these days.[/QUOTE]I don't think people are lie-ing about prices per SE. Hahaha.

What they are mis-leading people on is Lack of Quality of girl.

Sitting in Sukhumvit Burger King this morning a guy walks in with his LT GF. If he says he pay 1,000 baht ID ask why so much.

[QUOTE=XViking;2805475]"Off of Buakhao is Soi Boomerang which also has a handful of decent GC's. As for mongering- I would start with the GC's in BongKot, Boomerang and near Pothole during the day (3-4 ish), then have a TF girl come over for ST- and if she flakes or afterwards, go to Soi Pothole or LK Metro. The next day substitute one of these options with Soi 6."

What are SC and TF? Both lacking in the Abbreviations. Thank you.[/QUOTE]GC = Gentlemens Club.

TF = [URL]ThaiFriendly.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2805476]Can you tell us more? Where can we see these girls and don't we need to speak Spanish?[/QUOTE]Mileroticos and photoprepagos.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2805480]Mr E, I remember you saying Pattaya was your favorite when we met last summer. Still true, and if yes why?[/QUOTE]Pattaya is the greatest show on earth. The funniest thing is that my first Thai hooker taught me all I needed to know. Those were her words and I see it still rings true today.

Me and my friend were staying at Nana Hotel in Bangkok. I was sleep, but he went down to the disco that was in the hotel and brought back a chick for him and knocked on my door with her friend. They stayed with us 2 days and we gave them 2,000 baht each. She wanted more but I was like no way. I remember her telling me she had a sixth grade education.

She took it upon herself to teach me some Thai. She said all you need to know is, "Where are you going?" She taught me a few more things, but 18 years later I still have the paper she wrote the stuff down on and to this day I can walk outside and ask a chick in Thai where are you going and it is like magic. I tried that shit on a chick in Brazil a couple of months ago and got cursed the fuck out.

Also Thais do not see sex the same as Westerners see it. I can be in Colombia or Dominican Republic and a chick may try to pull the we just met card. I absolutely can not recall meeting a non-P4 P Thai chick and them not wanting to fuck on the first day. They do not need to get to know you and it has nothing to do with love. (The Australian brother that wrote those books has a perfect list of where a foreigner falls on the priority for Thai women. It was like dead last even after the fleas on her pet. XXL alludes to this a lot when he talks about chicks giving him their Line, but them not responding to messages.) Don't get offended or frustrated. It is what it is. Just remember to put on a performance when you are finally called up to the plate.

The flip side of this is that Western males still have Western mindsets. So if a chick fucks them, many times they take it for more than it actually is. A Thai chick fucking you is only saying that a Thai chick is fucking you. It says nothing about her feelings or if you will even know her 2 weeks from today. They come and go. Sad that many Westerners get caught out because they believe it to be something more as may be the case in the same situation back home. And remember I am talking about the non-P4 P chicks here. If it is a chick that you are paying then expect even less. Definitely do not invest in that shit.

On a different note, I hate to see when a guy comes to Pattaya and meets a chick, then he gets the bright idea to start a business. I have seen so many come and go and I just shake my head when a new one opens (especially when it is in some out of the way location) - albeit I will still try to give them some business and spread the word. Come, enjoy yourself, and leave the bright ideas back home. As the old adage says, if you want to make a small fortune in Thailand, then start with a large one.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2805480]I chronicled a week mongering in Bogota in my early posts here- but I've been there 3 times and Medellin twice.

TBH Bogota is really not a great mongering scene- everything (even BJ) is usually covered unless you pay extra (which even then is not a given). The red-light area (Santa Fe) is a total hell-hole and extremely dangerous. The strip club / brothels in upscale neighborhoods are clip joints (and all covered). Seeking Arrangement is viable but it takes a lot of time and energy and is really more an option for long time expats. Spanish is a must because they don't speak any english at all. The city alternates between being freezing cold, and then really hot when the sun comes out, so you never know how to dress. It's not a point and shoot location at all. On the positive side I will say some options (short time in Santa Fe) probably are marginally cheaper than Pattaya, and many Latinas are quite beautiful.

Medellin has similar issues.

Colombia and DR are the lowest hanging fruit for Americans, so a lot of mongers just sort of stop there and develop some weird tribal allegiance to a clearly sub-standard scene. Most mongers who have done all the scenes worldwide will say Brazil and Thailand are the best. Or they simply can't afford to fly any further and so since the option is not viable for them they do some mental gymnastics to justify their preference.

Mr E, I remember you saying Pattaya was your favorite when we met last summer. Still true, and if yes why?[/QUOTE]Yeap, Colombia is done! Back in the day it was a great. Cartagena rocked cheap girls, food, apartments, and airfare and I could be boots on the ground in 4 hours. Sex was amazing uncovered BJ just covered for sex, anal was mostly allowed with no upcharge and you could BB if you paid a little extra. Girls on beach it was easy, I let the chair boy do all the work and man could he find some chics. Same with Costa Rica when I fiirst went there Hotel de rey my room was $25 a night the last time I went it was $119. It is now closed and every thing is expensive thanks to the ECO tourists and damn Do Gooders. Girls just kept increasing the price and stupid rules. I will never go back! I never did do DR that place has always been a shit hole. I never liked the brazilian girls spent alot of time there working and the girls just didn't appeal to me reminded me to much of nasty DR girls.

One of the biggest down falls for Colombia was the utubers flocking there making videos. Hands down this is the biggest reason why things are screwed. It will happen to thailand too and is well on its way. My god all the vids is crazy especially the condo vids. Posted by fools begging their Bro's to come over. These utubers in thailand need to be treaty like shitbags by everyone instead of treating them like gods with these silly "meet ups"! These internet beggars aka cheap charlies are pure scum and are ruining it for everyone! The condo vids are the ones ruining it. Plus in America thanks to covid BS for some reason. There is a new tourist they are called "walmart trash". Yeap sadly the "walmart trash" have discovered international travel and it is the damn cheap prices these utubers post. The utubers are the enemy!

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2805548]BBBJ is standard in Thailand. As far as Latina women, I've only mongered in Tijuana and quite extensively and can say easily that Thai girls give way better service. Everything from attitude to the actual deed. The Tijuana girls give off that western girl entitlement vibe which I can't stand. Maybe they're different in Colombia, but from what I hear and read that is not so.[/QUOTE]Colombia and Tijuana do not even compare. Mongering in Colombia is way better and cheaper than Tijuana. Colombia is only second to Brazil on that side of the planet. That being said, Colombia is not a monolith. The mongering in Bogota is different from Cali, is different from Medellíand, is different from Cartagena, is different from Barranquilla.

I would say the quality and cheapness of the mongering is inversely proportional to the prescence of foreigners and tourists. Cartagena is full of weekend millionaires so it is hard to believe that place is even Colombia. People are paying $100 short time which is insane in a country where the average monthly wage is $250. Although it can be compared to guys going to a gogo in Pattaya and doing the same thing.

Medellin has a good presence of foreign mongers and tourist, but there are so many options that it is not yet possible for everything to be ruined by overzealous tourists. Bogota is so big and there is no foreign mongering scene, so outside of the clipjoints and a couple of ripoff agency websites, you will be paying the same prices as Colombians. Barranquilla and Cali are unspoiled due to there being virtually no foreign tourists. There is no point and click or foreign mongering scene and you will pretty much need to be able.

To speak Spanish in those places and know where you are going.

I have been going to Tijuana for over 30 years since I was in the Navy in San Diego. The funniest thing to me are the street girls. You go up to one and she tells you $20. For some reason it is too hard for Americans to exchange currency or think outside of USD and I guess it seems cheap to them, so they pay the $20.1 hour later I go up to the same chick. She tells me $20 but I am a seasoned vet and say but I only have pesos. She tells me 200 pesos. Right now 200 pesos is actually $11. So I saved $9 (pretty much half) over you for not being lazy and thinking in USDollars. (Or maybe when I got her she was lower quality from when you got her since I paid less.) It does not work the same in the clubs though. They even have the correct exchange rate posted so everyone can see. If a drink or chick in the clubs costs whatever in dollars, they are going to charge that same amount in pesos.

As a service to you guys, I occasionally will try to break in a new lady, civvies who don't work bar.

Today, a lady from Rayong showed up to drink. No English, so I got a Thai lesson. As with most ladies, she started on the far side of the sofa, but after an hour, she was leaning on me. So far, so good.

After another hour, she was trying to play with my Dick. I pushed back a little bit, I wanted to go slower.

And then she collapsed, metaphorically. She started crying and said she wanted to go.

So, off she went.

I chalked it up to her deciding she didn't want to fuck, and wanted to go. Maybe her husband was waiting somewhere for her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2805615]......Also Thais do not see sex the same as Westerners see it. I can be in Colombia or Dominican Republic and a chick may try to pull the we just met card. I absolutely can not recall meeting a non-P4 P Thai chick and them not wanting to fuck on the first day. They do not need to get to know you .....[/QUOTE]So true. Reminds me of my first visit to Thailand decades ago. Met this Thai chick in a mall in Bangkok, we chatted and I treated her to a bite to eat. We exchanged contact information and I promised to call her. Long story short, hours later when I got to my hotel there she was waiting in the lobby. She was a little angry as she was waiting for a long time. I was in my USA wired frame of mind as when I told her where I was staying it was her understanding that she was going to visit me but I didn't get that. BBFS and my only expense was the meal I bought her.

[QUOTE=NewT556;2805623]One of the biggest down falls for Colombia was the utubers flocking there making videos. Hands down this is the biggest reason why things are screwed. It will happen to thailand too and is well on its way. These internet beggars aka cheap charlies are pure scum and are ruining it for everyone![/QUOTE]Begs the question if the youtube guys are the cheap charlies that you say they are, why are prices in the gogos being raised? Surely it is not because of the cheap guys like me and youtubers.

After my first time to Cartagena in 2008 I decided to stay away. It was nothing like the other cities in Colombia that I had grown to love. And it was not because cheap guys were going there. It was because of weekend millionaires throwing money around.

So, I thought in add my two cents on the best in the WS area:

Bacarra: Always a favorite for the past 10 years or so. That said, tonight the girls looked a bit tired; only three topless in a set.

Pin-Ups: Very poor setup for viewing. It's long and narrow, very crowded too. Pretty girls, most with fake tits.

Windmill (Soi Diamond): Slutty looking skinny girls, lots of hands-on activity. Also, Windmill has two totally nude soapy shows. Hard to beat; no pun intended!

Overview: if you like to look at eye candy and spend a lot for nothing; Bacarra and Pin-ups are for you.

If you like a place where you spend a tad less, but get a very hands-on experience, The Windmill might float your boat.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2805816]Begs the question if the youtube guys are the cheap charlies that you say they are, why are prices in the gogos being raised? Surely it is not because of the cheap guys like me and youtubers.

After my first time to Cartagena in 2008 I decided to stay away. It was nothing like the other cities in Colombia that I had grown to love. And it was not because cheap guys were going there. It was because of weekend millionaires throwing money around.[/QUOTE]Cheap Customers.

They don't raise prices.

What they do is keep the unattractive girls in check. Hahaha.

Cheap Charlie's are like 5% of Sex customers. Maybe more -- it's the concept.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2805820]Windmill (Soi Diamond): Slutty looking skinny girls, lots of hands-on activity. Also, Windmill has two totally nude soapy shows. Hard to beat; no pun intended!.[/QUOTE]Does the Australian brother own that place? A couple of weeks ago I went to surprise the cashier that I mess with. I did not see her in the one on the left coming from Walking Street, so I went into the old one across from it. It was dead empty. When I came out he hollered at me that they had not finished that side yet. I was surprised to see him. I told him man I do not care about that bar, I just want to know when you are going to open another restaurant. He said you are one of mine? I said yeah man the ribs. He used to own Longhorn on Soi Lengkee.