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Taking the risk of being thrashed by this post, but what the hell, here goes:

I have been in BKK for a month now and visited many of the establishments discussed in the BKK forum. Talked to (and had amazing sex with) many beautiful ladies. With the exception of ONE girl in a gogo, every one of them would "prefer" (strongly prefer) not to have anal sex. This obviously does not mean unequivocally that there are not many girls who truly enjoy it. But... (no pun intended)

Now, here is my take on this. There are several places (for those in the know or reading through these forums you know what they are) that advertise A+ services. Personally I think the girl I am with should determine what she is willing to do with me. Otherwise, the act becomes one of violence or forced duty, rather than service. Now some will argue that if she doesn't like A+ then she should find another employer. To that I say every guy is different. She may well be happy giving A+ service to some men of lesser size or gentler nature but there is NO WAY she should end up having to go to the doctor in pain because someone abused her anally. This is a CRIME anyway you look at it. This is NOT a hypothetical scenario, this is an account of what I have been told by more than a few girls.

When I read some of the posts in this forum that speak about the girls as if they are not human beings but toys to be used and enjoyed in anyway the customer sees fit, it makes me sick.

The girls look at servicing the customer as their duty and would rarely refuse a request (or forced position). The customer might think she is enjoying it from her moaning and writhing, when in fact she is trying to make the customer finish as quickly as possible to stop the pain she is enduring for her family.

A large majority of the girls are single mothers supporting a family upcountry. They are living in 2500 baht / per month accommodation with no air conditioning and most share an apartment. They send 80% of what they make to their mother, father and children who they get to visit a few times a year. Again, I know that this is their choice, but I am extremely sympathetic to them.

Now I am all for the industry everywhere in the world. If a man wants to shell out and a girl wants to put out, there should be no law to prohibit that. But, IT SHOULD NEVER BE A FORCED or VIOLENT ACT. In order to avoid this, the customer should always talk to his girl about it before AND DURING the act to make sure she is OK (still OK) with it. That goes for anal or any other kind of sex.

My purpose for writing this post is not to try to step on anyone's toes who likes A+ (there are obviously many on this forum who do), but to try to give the girls that are being hurt by it a little publicity by raising the issue.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano][url]http://www.phuketgazette.net/archives/articles/2010/article8966.html[/url]

if he's guilty, they ought to throw the book at this monster. Apparently he was a former professional poker player, down on his luck[/QUOTE]Which bar did this girl work in?

[QUOTE=Just Enough]Taking the risk of being thrashed by this post, but what the hell, here goes:

I have been in BKK for a month now and visited many of the establishments discussed in the BKK forum. Talked to (and had amazing sex with) many beautiful ladies. With the exception of ONE girl in a gogo, every one of them would "prefer" (strongly prefer) not to have anal sex. This obviously does not mean unequivocally that there are not many girls who truly enjoy it. But... (no pun intended)

Now, here is my take on this. There are several places (for those in the know or reading through these forums you know what they are) that advertise A+ services. Personally I think the girl I am with should determine what she is willing to do with me. Otherwise, the act becomes one of violence or forced duty, rather than service. Now some will argue that if she doesn't like A+ then she should find another employer. To that I say every guy is different. She may well be happy giving A+ service to some men of lesser size or gentler nature but there is NO WAY she should end up having to go to the doctor in pain because someone abused her anally. This is a CRIME anyway you look at it. This is NOT a hypothetical scenario, this is an account of what I have been told by more than a few girls.

When I read some of the posts in this forum that speak about the girls as if they are not human beings but toys to be used and enjoyed in anyway the customer sees fit, it makes me sick.

The girls look at servicing the customer as their duty and would rarely refuse a request (or forced position). The customer might think she is enjoying it from her moaning and writhing, when in fact she is trying to make the customer finish as quickly as possible to stop the pain she is enduring for her family.

A large majority of the girls are single mothers supporting a family upcountry. They are living in 2500 baht / per month accommodation with no air conditioning and most share an apartment. They send 80% of what they make to their mother, father and children who they get to visit a few times a year. Again, I know that this is their choice, but I am extremely sympathetic to them.

Now I am all for the industry everywhere in the world. If a man wants to shell out and a girl wants to put out, there should be no law to prohibit that. But, IT SHOULD NEVER BE A FORCED or VIOLENT ACT. In order to avoid this, the customer should always talk to his girl about it before AND DURING the act to make sure she is OK (still OK) with it. That goes for anal or any other kind of sex.

My purpose for writing this post is not to try to step on anyone's toes who likes A+ (there are obviously many on this forum who do), but to try to give the girls that are being hurt by it a little publicity by raising the issue.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. Well said mate!

[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]Which bar did this girl work in?[/QUOTE]


If I remember correctly, I think it was a place called Sweethearts. I'm not 100% sure though

[QUOTE=Just Enough]
My purpose for writing this post is not to try to step on anyone's toes who likes A+ (there are obviously many on this forum who do), but to try to give the girls that are being hurt by it a little publicity by raising the issue.[/QUOTE]
If a girl says yes to the service requested, what's the problem?

Where do you get the notion that guys are forcing girls to do things against their will?

I think most guys on this board understand that "yes" means "yes" and "no" means "no".

I'm not sure what your point is.

[QUOTE=Dinghy]patpong is pretty much a tourist trap[/QUOTE]Yes, this is true to some extent. But there is a variety of options for someone with more than a one track mind (i.e., look at dancers, bar fine, go ST, repeat...)

A monger can still have a good time there. Beer bars, music clubs, BJ bars, good food, regular bars, etc.

Many of the go-go dancers are friendly and pretty. There's also are a lot of pretty FL girls, and just off work go-go girls, late night at Twilo Club and a few other places. Just have your ladyboy radar up.

One night, I was with my GF and her friends in Twilo, including a ladyboy named Som. At one point my GF said, "look, Som has customer." There was Som in full lip lock with a big studly guy up by the bandstand. A few minutes later I saw the guy make a beeline for the street wiping his lips with a sheepish look on his face. Pretty funny, really, so...watch out!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]If a girl says yes to the service requested, what's the problem?

Where do you get the notion that guys are forcing girls to do things against their will?

I think most guys on this board understand that "yes" means "yes" and "no" means "no".

I'm not sure what your point is.[/QUOTE]My main point is that (sorry to be so graphic) there are girls who are being abused anally to the point that they are having to go to the doctor with internal bleeding.

Anal sex is not pleasing to MOST girls. IT HURTS THEM.

MANY (not all, ok?) are doing it for the money, ONLY.

If there were guys who got off on punching a girl in the face until bloody, there would be girls who would SAY YES, if it meant being able to support their family.

The Thai word for it is ความ อดทน. Ot Ton. They are thinking about their baby to get them through the pain. Tolerance ; Forbearance ; Patience.

I find it hard to understand how one can take pleasure in hurting another human being.

AND, my post was not meant to make those who like anal sex feel guilty about it. REALLY! I am sure there are girls who like it. But just because they say YES (as you posted) doesn't mean they like it.

I have found that the girls in BKK can please me in a million ways that doesn't hurt them.

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What is the best way to get to Phuket from Hua Hin? It seems that an overnight bus will do the trick but I'm not sure.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]If a girl says yes to the service requested, what's the problem?

Where do you get the notion that guys are forcing girls to do things against their will?

I think most guys on this board understand that "yes" means "yes" and "no" means "no".

I'm not sure what your point is.[/QUOTE]I think he makes a very good point. Yes doesn't mean yes to everything! I think is what he is getting at.

Some guys take liberties.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]A monger can still have a good time there. Beer bars, music clubs, BJ bars, good food, regular bars, etc.[/QUOTE]After hitting the Starbucks on Suriwongse a few months ago, then heading over make a hit on Foodland, I stopped in a loud bar and saw a guy doing some of the bawdy shit we used to do to the girls in the 80's.

Zounds!

Three chicks, all sharing the dude's cigarettes & drinks and holding them high, completely & totally fucked up, and all going full guns to the music. One chick sitting on his bald head like a pussy hat, one with her snatch backed firmly into his face as if it was tattooed on, and one doing a standing reverse cowboy, bouncing up and down on his crotch with her hand hard wanking the guy's stiffy through his pants.

Yessss!

In Soi Cowboy, or even upstairs Nana, this "too much fun" behavior would be more than a bit over the edge.

Hmm, Patpong definitely still has some life left in her. ;)

[QUOTE=Just Enough]My main point is that (sorry to be so graphic) there are girls who are being abused anally to the point that they are having to go to the doctor with internal bleeding.

Anal sex is not pleasing to MOST girls. IT HURTS THEM.

MANY (not all, ok?) are doing it for the money, ONLY.

If there were guys who got off on punching a girl in the face until bloody, there would be girls who would SAY YES, if it meant being able to support their family.

The Thai word for it is ความ อดทน. Ot Ton. They are thinking about their baby to get them through the pain. Tolerance ; Forbearance ; Patience.

I find it hard to understand how one can take pleasure in hurting another human being.

AND, my post was not meant to make those who like anal sex feel guilty about it. REALLY! I am sure there are girls who like it. But just because they say YES (as you posted) doesn't mean they like it.

I have found that the girls in BKK can please me in a million ways that doesn't hurt them.[/QUOTE]
I'm not an anal guy and I don't do girls if it hurts them. But if a girl needs money than it's her choice to say yes or no to anal. She is an adult and can make up her own mind.

You say the girls are being "abused". Who is the abuser?

Also, just because she "says yes" to vaginal insertion doesn't mean she likes it either. Lots of times vaginal intercourse hurts them also.

Millions of people everyday take risks at work and don't like it. But it's their choice.

I think you just feel sorry for the girls and are a bit bothered by the way the world is, and that's ok you're human. But coming on this board and saying things like "This is a CRIME anyway you look at it" and "being abused anally" when in fact it is their choice is just way out of line.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not an anal guy and I don't do girls if it hurts them. .....[/QUOTE]

I think we can say, not from a moral point of view, but a practical one, that anal fucking (despite the pleasure it can give) is not natural for the body.
The vaginal one is. The reasons are quite clear and there is no need to be graphic.
There will always be girls who are tight there and a normal c**k might hurt them, no doubt, but these are the exceptions.
sAYING [QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm ""She is an adult and can make up her own mind."" [/QUOTE] is, IMHO, also quite short sighted, same as stating
[QUOTE=Amjeck]"Millions of people everyday take risks at work and don't like it. But it's their choice" [/QUOTE]
I am not so sure some risks are taken as a free choice but maybe an induced "no choice"
Enough said as then we open an endless debate.
Just wanted to add my fuel for the thoughts

Couldn't add this to the Suvarnabhumi threat (it was closed).
These are the transport options I take. All except the public bus.

Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet

Leaving the Airport

Taxi:

Taxi counter at now at level 1.
There is a 50 Baht surcharge, and you must pay expressway toll when applicable.

To avoid the 50 Baht surcharge, get a taxi from the departure level. Contrary to other posts, you were always able to get the taxi from the departure level. The depature floor splits into 2 (one for normal traffic and the other for taxis). Get the taxi when it drops off its customer.

Rail:

The skytrain is open, somewhat. It is on level B1. It is currently running test on a limited basis (in the morning and evening). There is no fee for these test runs. It is supposed to open on August 23. Not sure what the price will be.

Airport Express Bus:

Office is on level 1. There are 4 routes. Cost is 150 Baht. Last bus leaves between 11:30 PM - 12 AM.

To Pattaya by Air-con bus:

There's a direct service to Pattaya (B124 pp) and Jomtiem. The office is on level 1 next to the Airport Express office. Bus leaves every 2 hours; the last bus leaves at 9 PM. The bus stops at north, central and south Pattaya. And then it goes to Jomtiem.

At the Pattaya drop off, you are still couple of kilometers away from the main area (beach road and 2nd road). To get there, cross very busy Sukhumvit Road and grab a songthaew (10 baht bus) into town. Or there will be tuk-tuks and moto-bikes that will try to gouge you.

Another option to Pattaya is Bell travel with an A/C bus:

One level 1, you will see a small sign (across diagonally from the Airport Express office). Since Bell's depature times are staggered, they will find you after the other bus leaves. Cost is slightly more. The bus will stop at the Pattaya bus station, and then a mini-bus will take you to your hotel.

Other thoughts:

1) If you take the taxi into town at official taxi stand, do not pay their rip-off price when they try to gouge you and ask you for 400 or 500 baht. 99% of the taxi drivers will attempt to screw you because a lot of tourists will pay. Say "meter". If they don't immediately turn on the meter, then say "stop, I will get off". This has always worked. They never will refuse the fair (probably can't).
2) The taxi cost to Pattaya at the official taxi stand will be 1500 baht; this includes the 50 baht surcharge and tollway charges. You can go to the departure level and negotiate a price. A private car offered 1000 baht with tollway included. I was paranoid; I took a meter taxi; negotiated 1200 baht with the tollway included; I probably paid too much since he said yes too fast. My guess is that I could have gotten 1000 baht for a meter taxi. You can arrange a taxi pick-up from a Pattaya travel agent for 1200 baht.

[QUOTE=GreenBud]Couldn't add this to the Suvarnabhumi threat (it was closed).
These are the transport options I take. All except the public bus.

Suvarnabhumi Airport Transportation Fact Sheet

Leaving the Airport

Taxi:

Taxi counter at now at level 1.
There is a 50 Baht surcharge, and you must pay expressway toll when applicable.

To avoid the 50 Baht surcharge, get a taxi from the departure level. Contrary to other posts, you were always able to get the taxi from the departure level. The depature floor splits into 2 (one for normal traffic and the other for taxis). Get the taxi when it drops off its customer.

Rail:

The skytrain is open, somewhat. It is on level B1. It is currently running test on a limited basis (in the morning and evening). There is no fee for these test runs. It is supposed to open on August 23. Not sure what the price will be.

Airport Express Bus:

Office is on level 1. There are 4 routes. Cost is 150 Baht. Last bus leaves between 11:30 PM - 12 AM.

To Pattaya by Air-con bus:

There's a direct service to Pattaya (B124 pp) and Jomtiem. The office is on level 1 next to the Airport Express office. Bus leaves every 2 hours; the last bus leaves at 9 PM. The bus stops at north, central and south Pattaya. And then it goes to Jomtiem.

At the Pattaya drop off, you are still couple of kilometers away from the main area (beach road and 2nd road). To get there, cross very busy Sukhumvit Road and grab a songthaew (10 baht bus) into town. Or there will be tuk-tuks and moto-bikes that will try to gouge you.

Another option to Pattaya is Bell travel with an A/C bus:

One level 1, you will see a small sign (across diagonally from the Airport Express office). Since Bell's depature times are staggered, they will find you after the other bus leaves. Cost is slightly more. The bus will stop at the Pattaya bus station, and then a mini-bus will take you to your hotel.

Other thoughts:

1) If you take the taxi into town at official taxi stand, do not pay their rip-off price when they try to gouge you and ask you for 400 or 500 baht. 99% of the taxi drivers will attempt to screw you because a lot of tourists will pay. Say "meter". If they don't immediately turn on the meter, then say "stop, I will get off". This has always worked. They never will refuse the fair (probably can't).
2) The taxi cost to Pattaya at the official taxi stand will be 1500 baht; this includes the 50 baht surcharge and tollway charges. You can go to the departure level and negotiate a price. A private car offered 1000 baht with tollway included. I was paranoid; I took a meter taxi; negotiated 1200 baht with the tollway included; I probably paid too much since he said yes too fast. My guess is that I could have gotten 1000 baht for a meter taxi. You can arrange a taxi pick-up from a Pattaya travel agent for 1200 baht.[/QUOTE]

From BKK city or the airport to Pattaya I tell them I'll pay you 1000 baht and I wiil pay the toll. In that way they will use the express way all the way otherwise they will drive underneath on the most part in order to save the toll

In Pattaya there are a lot of taxi stands (agents).Cost is 800 baht to the airport or 1000-1200 baht to the city including toll. 1200 being a private car not regular taxi. All taxis awaiting agents call for a ride to BKK are parked on the intersection of 3rd road and north Pattaya road. Agents get about 200 baht I guess,

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If anyone wants to meet, I will share my secret with you. It is a free website and more free pussy than you can shake a stick at. I have been approached by a few ladyboys on the site but it's not my bag. I would love to make friends with a few of you guys on here.

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