Moscow

[QUOTE=Sharalumi]d arrange an ISG Moscow summit here in the next days? PM me if interested.[/QUOTE]

Too funny - Doc and I were there last night as well!

Lack of cover was a huge plus, and the prices in general were very reasonable. Format is very Aurora-llike, to the point that you'd think they had the same management (they don't). Felt the smoking-hot African girl up close. Bodies don't get much better than that, but somehow it just feels wrong in Moscow. :)

[QUOTE=Passepartout]altenative option to Che; who is really worst and worst (last friday at 1.00 AM there was 70 or 80% of men...i had the feeling to be in western europe...). [/QUOTE]

Agree with you 200%, Ppt. Doc and I were there last night, and it was horrible. Packed, but as you said, almost all guys. Had a few uglies hitting on us, but all the hot girls were with dates (didn't stop us from trying however :) )

We were flummoxed in general. Sun-Wed typically sucks in Moscow. We hit Penthouse at the beginning, then Che, then HotDog, then Propaganda, then Che again. There were hot girls in every place, but all were taken, or in the case of HD, too expensive. Doc asked the hottest girl there how much it'd be, and she wouldn't go lower than 5 bens. And we both guessed that it'd be ST for that price. That said, she was ridiculously hot. For LT, it'd be a fair price.

[QUOTE=Vigilantexx]Pizdyets,

I actually do not share the enthusiasm expressed in the forum about Coyote Ugly. Been there two or three times and found the ratio male: female not very favourable and the most flirty girl was actually one of the waitress downstairs who seemed genuinely interested. Music veeeery cheesy.
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Yes, the music is... well... if you like American retro, then it's your dream bar. Last visit, there were 2:1 girl to guys. I'm not shitting you. Maybe it's gone downhill since then.

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I have tried a couple of times getting into Che (with female company) and was rejected but I am still curious about it after so much good PR here. I am still in search of a night club which I like 100%.
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Me too. Che is not all that. The main thing about Che is that it's got people pretty much 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. I'll be in other bars, listening to the crickets chirp, and then go to Che and it'll be fucking packed. The problem these days is that it's mainly just guys there. We need to find another good pick-up joint, and soon.

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For me the best of Moscow are not clubs but cafes. The possibility of drinking and eating at almost any time of the day in so many places it is something pretty much unique. I might have tried more than 30 of them and I think they can be good hunting places when you have the balls to "invite yourself" to another table (at the risk of course of having to pick her tab without any returns!
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Funny enough, we were listening to a partner of mine last night saying the exact same thing. One of his neighbors is banging girls all the time which he picks up at the cafe on the ground floor of his apartment building. If you have the balls, I can believe it.

[QUOTE=Strangeman]Spanish Fly, et al, pardon a newbie here, but are you saying that the non-pro/GF scene in the area is viable for an average/normal western guy?

From the grumblings I'd gathered from RTFF, it seemed that in Russia and Ukraine there was zero possibility for a western guy to have any non-pro/GF action unless you were filthy rich, a fashion model, rock star or a good liar :) Is this an incorrect assumption?[/QUOTE]

100% incorrect. The freebie scene here is fantastic if you have any game at all.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]100% incorrect. The freebie scene here is fantastic if you have any game at all.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by game though? Like what do you say that is game to get a girl to have sex with you? I'am very inexperienced so I was just curious.

Pardon, Pizdyets, you forgot what is the typical man: if a man is not a good hunter (the game) in his own country, he can't be a good hunter (the game) in Russia in a very limited time, of course.

Therefore Russian-background or/and cool-style or/and filthy-rich are normal requirements in the present Russia, with no illusions.

The best solution is to find a good job in Russia and to live there with those fantastic women (as somebody has already written in the past).

Instead, to marry a Russian woman and take that to a Western country will become a problem because the Russian woman will behave at the same way of Western women in few years.

Moreover Moscow is one the most expensive city in the world. Therefore it is a good idea to look for in little-touristical towns, but how many Western men know Russian background to go in little-touristical towns?

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]100% incorrect. The freebie scene here is fantastic if you have any game at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Too funny - Doc and I were there last night as well!

Lack of cover was a huge plus, and the prices in general were very reasonable. Format is very Aurora-llike, to the point that you'd think they had the same management (they don't). Felt the smoking-hot African girl up close. Bodies don't get much better than that, but somehow it just feels wrong in Moscow. :)[/QUOTE]

hey mates, call me next time!!

[QUOTE=Prosal]Just a question to you guys, residents or frequent visitors: how do you manage to deal with multiple GFs (I'm not talking about club sluts or fuck buddies, but real GFs) in Moscow ?

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You are right, it's a good question.

I have 5 "partners" in Moscow (don't know if I can call them girlfriends or not). Of course this is impossible to get real GF invested into the relationship. This is why i try to have the following balance:
- 1 and only one real GF invested, and with her I manage to protect my private life easily (no keys; business excuses and so on)
- all the rests are "sport"partners who knows the kind of guy i am and i, in return, never ask questions too.

This is my advice to keep a nice sexual life: to get only 1 real GF and all the rests are girls who wants fun like you, and in Moscow that's alrady enough to be an happy man.

Tricks to protects privacy life:

- no keys
- native community "meetings"
- sport after work
- business meetings

that can free already 3 or 4 night during the week.
The week-end is a more difficult target. Hopefully she will have a mama to see in Iaroslaval or somewhere :-)

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Too funny - Doc and I were there last night as well!

Lack of cover was a huge plus, and the prices in general were very reasonable. Format is very Aurora-llike, to the point that you'd think they had the same management (they don't). Felt the smoking-hot African girl up close. Bodies don't get much better than that, but somehow it just feels wrong in Moscow. :)[/QUOTE] Last month I was in Moscow and had a "meeting" with a "friend" of mine who is a dancer at Aurora 911. During pillow talk, she told me about Penthouse Club and told me I should go sometime (I should mention that since I have started banging this girl I don't really feel compelled to see her at work so I don't go there anymore) and that she thought I would like it.

Anyhow, I asked "why" she thought I should go and visit the Penthouse Club and she told me that it was designed to cater to foreigners and I might feel more comfortable there as opposed to Aurora. Curious about her response I pursued the answer further and begged her to expand on what she meant. I could see that she was choosing her words carefully (partially because her English is at about the same level as my Russian) but she said that MOST (but not all) foreign guys who come into Aurora don't have a lot of money. She went on to say that most of the regular Russian guys who visit Aurora 911 will drop between $1,500 and $1,800 in a visit not including a trip to the "sex" room. It's not uncommon for a Russian to spend 150k rubles for a night of fun at Aurora and from time to time one of the regular oligarchs who visits will buy "days off" for girls if he likes them, thinks they look tired and need a rest. By contrast, the average foreigner will spend $350 plus any trips to the sex room.

She went on to say that it's why the hostess will normally seat foreigners at the bar instead of on a couch because they know we're not going to drop a whole lot of coin there and management does not want us taking up valuable couch space if we're not going to spend a lot of cash. The manager will send a few girls by the bar just for appearances sake but that's about it.

According to "Dancing Queen", it's why they started Penthouse Club, located it on Arbat Street and set those affordable prices - to keep us the heck out of Aurora 911!!!!!! I am not sure if she's feeding me a line of bullshit but if it's true then it sure explains a few things.

BTW - according to her, they have settled their "immigration problems", found the right government sponsor and are happily back up to full operating capacity. As far as she's concerned, the "crisis in Moscow is officially over".

Hi guys and senior members,

My friend told me that you can get vietnamese girls for sex in russia moscow. So do any of you have any leads or address that I can try them? Hungry for asian babes in Russia.

Anybody been there ?

Just looking at the site my wallet shudders.

[url]http://www.km19.ru/[/url]

where to find vietnamese babes for sex in moscow? heard it is operating. do you know where?

Anyone know where in Moscow I can find vietnamese girls for sex? Please give me the address and who to contact. Thanks a lot mate.

Jake,
thanks a lot for the report: very informative. I see that we both had the same kind of friend, and this is why I do not go there too often.

Prosal,
19 is the official competitor of Aurora, many reports here (i have the member card which gives free entrance and skidki for drinks). Main difference is that every 5 minutes a girl will show up for lap dance so be prepared for that. imho that's what you are looking for in a strip club, aren't you?
In comparison, aurora can be boring sometimes with 20 minutes or more without lap dance (probably the explanation is given by Jack below)
Sex is more expensive in 19, negotiate! but it's a good club

[QUOTE=Castonthis]What do you mean by game though? Like what do you say that is game to get a girl to have sex with you? I'am very inexperienced so I was just curious.[/QUOTE]

Yes, "Game" is the set of skills necessary to pick up women: how to approach, how to get her interested in you, how to get into her pants, and so on. Of course it also helps to be reasonably good-looking, well dressed/groomed and above all - confident.