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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2000786]What? A TF lady you wine and dine and doesn't come to your room on the first date for some horizontal dancing?
The end of the world must be nigh.[/QUOTE]It is well known that most guys are just looking for a fuck, right? Therefore maybe some girls are testing guys to see if there is more to it than just a fuck.
[QUOTE=Shikamaru1993;2000548]Hi everyone,
I am just stepping into the amazing world of punting. This forum has taught me a lot and now I need help from you guys.
I will be spending two days in Bangkok and I plan to experience as much as possible the Sin city has to offer. I have compiled a list of things I want to do and it will be great if you guys can give me recommendations.
1. Soapie.
2. Threesome (Heard of Eden Club but apparently it's shit nowadays).
3. Kinky massage for example prostate massage etc.
4. go go bars, Crazy house? Spankys?
5. Blowjob Bar (wood bar).
Am I missing something?
Thank you all for your help.[/QUOTE]You are missing one thing. The most important: "[B]Relax and go with the flow[/B]".
That list will have you stressed out as from the first minute.
The beauty of Thailand is that sex is so common and easy and, well, normal but you want to make it into some kind of race. Or one of these horrible "things to do before I die" bucket-lists.
When I first came to Thailand about 7 years ago, I compiled a whole list of (mainly) touristy things to see and do. I still don't have done everything on that list but I did many things not on that list and those were by far the most enjoyable or memorable.
I suggest in the afternoon you walk around the many massage-shops on and around Sukhumvit Road untilou see a lady you fancy and go with her for a happy ending massage. Don't make the beginner's mistake of thinking there will be a better / younger / sexier one just around the corner. Of course there will, but that thought will find you alone in your bed at night, jerking off to the memories of missed opportunities.
In the evening, stroll around Nana or Soi Cowboy. Enjoy the shows and once you have seen enough, grab an agogo dancer smiling at you. Engage her for an LT and experience a night of hot steaming sex or cuddly GFE. Let her deal with your morning wood when you wake up and send her on her way again.
That's the way I think Thailand needs to be experienced.
PS: Bangkok is not Sin City. That is a name originally given to Shanghai, but nowadays Pattaya is arguably more worthy of that crown.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2000803]It is well known that most guys are just looking for a fuck, right? Therefore maybe some girls are testing guys to see if there is more to it than just a fuck.[/QUOTE]Sure, she already got that with the dinner and music at the Jazz club. And then she comes to your room. That's how it is supposed to work.
BTW; Something I always wanted to ask. How did you, the uber-monger of the Thai fora on ISG, end up with a Thai GF? I imagine there must be a good story behind that fact.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2000806]
I suggest in the afternoon you walk around the many massage-shops on and around Sukhumvit Road untilou see a lady you fancy and go with her for a happy ending massage. Don't make the beginner's mistake of thinking there will be a better / younger / sexier one just around the corner. Of course there will, but that thought will find you alone in your bed at night, jerking off to the memories of missed opportunities.
[/QUOTE]I agree with "go with the Flow".
However surely the beginners mistake is to take the first girl that comes to you. Essentially where the girl chose the guy and he did not have any strength to wait for better. Be just a little bit patient I say, and make sure you take time to choose a really good one. I am always prepared to look in several places until something really appeals.
Beginners must accept that they will make plenty of mistakes and learn of course.
If find a an extra special girl, sure go for that in a big hurry lest someone else grabs her, and then you miss out. He who hesitates can loose all.
Have to judge when very fast action is needed and when it is not.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2000786]What? A TF lady you wine and dine and doesn't come to your room on the first date for some horizontal dancing?
The end of the world must be nigh.[/QUOTE]But 2 of the most memorable nights in my life didn't involve sex, last night, and 8 years ago in Shanghai. Went on a date with the daughter of a Chinese general. Dinner at Bali Laguna (Indonesian) then dancing at Lounge 21. Never forget the way she moved on the dance floor. My income wasn't up to family standards so there was no 2nd date, a solid 8 looker. Last night, she's a 9, worth a bit of effort.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2000809]
BTW; Something I always wanted to ask. How did you, the uber-monger of the Thai fora on ISG, end up with a Thai GF? I imagine there must be a good story behind that fact.[/QUOTE]No I am no Uber Monger. I am somewhat sex addicted, although can go weeks without a fuck.
When we were young and stupid, we all wanted adoring wives or girlfriends who would kiss and cuddle us all the tie and fuck our brains out as well. Reality was different.
I chose the wrong Farang girl to be my wife. Later I thought, new girlfriends will be very different. Yes they all have very different problems. The common theme was they all lack the same levels of sexual desire that I have. I would like to have sex at least 5 times a week, maybe the odd day off. I do enjoy sex with the GF, however it lacks frequency. 1 per week is not good enough. She may well get 5 orgasms in a sex about and that leaves her satisfied for far too long. I get 1 pop and am ready for more, later the same day.
The last girlfriend was acquired accidentally. Sort of fell into it gradually without making a definite decision. Sure she was pretty and a great body, and sex was good the first time, and she wasn't serious at first, in fact I was looking after her a little when she was in poor health for a few weeks. She did expect me to be faithful to her from the start however, in the sense that I could not have 2 girlfriends. Initially I was just trying different girls to see how I liked them and if compatible, at all. It takes far too long to tell. Girls change there manner once the relationship becomes permanent. Become less fun. Sex frequency drops off.
Later it becomes clear that many Thai girls generally accept that men will monger. Its so normal in Thailand for men to visit the Soapy or similar sometimes.
Surely I have learned to avoid acquiring a dependent GF. Too late now. Not easy to just dump them after a long time. Some how after previous GF went bad (after 4 years), I had failed to learn that I was much better off without a permanent GF.
I have to travel a lot for work. This makes me well used to living alone. Therefore I am much better off without a woman restricting me and using up resources of time and money. Benefits of a GF are not good enough for me.
Even girls that claim to need sex daily, I have found are bullshitting, with rare exceptions. I have never really found a woman who craves orgasms every single day.
Once we have mongered for long enough, we are wrecked. We have got used to 18 YO girls with perfect high boobs, no baby, no saggy anywhere, and willing to fuck, and even give a GFE. What is more we got used to a stable of these young seemingly "horny" girls. Yet in the real world we are not James Bond able to pull all these chicks, and keep replacing them continually. Outsourcing the sex is definitely working better for most us.
Maybe some guys on here can get the majority of their sex needs met by a wife or GF, but I have only experienced that for shorter periods of less than one year, and most of those highly sexed girls were too Psycho to actually live with.
I would rather perhaps be some girl's 2nd boyfriend, that she sees part time when the main BF is missing, and does not actually live with full time. I don't have the jealous streak that is concerned about who else a girl is fucking. I only care what she provides to me. I tried this scheme more than once. It usually happens when the girl's main relationship is lacking something.
Called me and asked if I wanted to meet a bit earlier at Terminal 21, have coffee and browse shops before dinner, she was there already. Warning lights begin to flash. Met up at Starbucks. Says she has a work mate's daughter's wedding to go to soon, showed me the dress she bought online, but needs shoes to go with. So we look at shoes and sure enough, she expects me to pay. Had my reply set in stone before I arrived. I whispered into her ear, "Sorry, no, it is too soon for me to be buying you things. Money is not the problem." So I don't know Thai culture much but I assume she lost face in front of the store staff. Don't care. She didn't make a scene in the store but just outside said, "I am going home now, goodbye. " Easy come easy go. Stopped in at Shark on my way home, like it better than Crazy House, the ladies, very slender and attractive, are more my speed, can't put my finger on it as to why. Number 210, Moon, wearing a full dress hemmed just above the knees asked if she could sit with me. Turns out she is a hostess only, doesn't dance but I can bar fine her for 700 and ST for 3000. Wow, her face between a 8 & 9, IMO. DFK? "yes" BBBJ? "OK, but just a little bit time" I told her I would think about it, paid for our drinks and am at a sports bar eating, contemplating it. She's hot, but my gut feeling says she is conservative in bed. Talk her down to 2000? Or move on. Undecided at this point.
Hey guys,
Will be travelling soon to Bangkok, needed help finding European or white women escorts there? Are there any strip clubs that have white women in them or any website where I can meet them?
Thanks.
So like I said below (date night #2 post) I was contemplating it at the Clubhouse Sports Bar on Soi 23 (great grilled fish sandwich, steak fries and salad). Her face just looks like she doesn't belong on Soi Cowboy, like you'd see her at a hotel reception desk, but light on the make-up. Body not spinner slender but slender none the less. Went back to my hotel to change my shirt and just outside the elevator on my floor the music system started playing the song that my daughter had used in the first dance at her wedding. Took it as a sign I would be happy in selecting Moon. To be honest here at ISG I hate condoms, never been able to cum using one, ever. Sometimes have trouble staying hard with them. So I tried a new trick. Popped half a Sideagra in my room and got the Sagami Large condoms out, both purchased in the afternoon. Paid the bar fine and full 3000 because she said she does good massage. She lit up when I returned and seemed excited to be going with me, holding hands tight and very talkative, medium good English. Pulled me into a food mart to buy a small bottle of Johnson's baby oil. Showered in the room, I put on my "massage vibe" playlist, popped the other half of the Sideagra and showered after she came out. Very nice 100% natural see cup tits, not perky but I actually like them a tiny bit pointy and droopy (so I liked Opor's at Tulip as well). Slight tummy fat but only very slight, not an issue. It all felt very comfortable. When I came out of the bathroom she said, "very good massage music. " She cracked my back and fingers, good foot massage, washed her hands, then turned me over and sensual BBBJ, all very non-rushed. I was quite hard, the Sagami went on and she elevated knees cowgirl me, same as Opor did to start out our fucking at Tulip. Did 5 positions, we had good chemistry and she seemed really into it, light moaning, amped up to the intensity of the motion. I said, "OK, rest time" and DATY her. Slow build up then added a finger inside the pussy and she came. A really sweet lady. Great GFE. Another BBBJ, more cowgirl, then she finished me with a hand job. Still can't cum with a condom on but Sagami feel better and staying hard was easy with the Sideagra. Would repeat if I lived here, but eager for new experiences.
I liked the concept in SOL and Telephone club in Pattaya where one can sometimes see a BJ or even full penetration. Many times when I am in a busy massage shop, its fun to hear about the sounds from other rooms. Adds to overall charm LOL.
Any more such places these days in Pattaya or Bangkok?
[QUOTE=TabManLlight;2000951]Hey guys,
Will be travelling soon to Bangkok, needed help finding European or white women escorts there? Are there any strip clubs that have white women in them or any website where I can meet them?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Have you even begun to read the forum? You might consider taking a look. You might even learn something.
SW4.
[QUOTE=AquaDreams;2000897]So I don't know Thai culture much but I assume she lost face in front of the store staff.[/QUOTE]She doesn't know those people, so she probably doesn't care. She went in knowing there would be a chance you say no. She went in hoping that putting you on the spot would work. People like her do this all the time and it usually works. Most guys don't want to rock the boat and are scared about saying no.
[QUOTE=TabManLlight;2000951]Hey guys,
Will be travelling soon to Bangkok, needed help finding European or white women escorts there? Are there any strip clubs that have white women in them or any website where I can meet them?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Are you really looking for white / European escorts in Bangkok? If there are any, they'll be rare and expensive.
Bangkok has some hookers / streetworkers that claim to be Russian but are more likely from some of the Asian CIS republics and the few I have seen are low quality. Pattaya's Walking Street has one club with white hostesses, but they are more trained in emptying your wallet than emptying your balls.
Khao San Road in Bangkok has many European tourists (quite a lot of the backpacker variety) and if you have game no doubt you can catch some there.
[QUOTE=AquaDreams;2000897]Called me and asked if I wanted to meet a bit earlier at Terminal 21, have coffee and browse shops before dinner, she was there already. Warning lights begin to flash. (snip).[/QUOTE]That reinforces my idea that unless a TF or DIA girl fucks you on first date night, you're fucked.
Truth be told, with all (except one) of my DIA or TF contacts I had sex at first date night mostly at their initiative and they were all "good girls" with proper jobs (teachers, hospital staff, .). The only exception was with the owner of a massage shop, but she did give me great Thai massage but without he.
[QUOTE=AquaDreams;2000897]Called me and asked if I wanted to meet a bit earlier at Terminal 21, have coffee and browse shops before dinner, she was there already. Warning lights begin to flash. Met up at Starbucks. Says she has a work mate's daughter's wedding to go to soon, showed me the dress she bought online, but needs shoes to go with. So we look at shoes and sure enough, she expects me to pay. Had my reply set in stone before I arrived. I whispered into her ear, "Sorry, no, it is too soon for me to be buying you things. Money is not the problem." So I don't know Thai culture much but I assume she lost face in front of the store staff. Don't care. She didn't make a scene in the store but just outside said, "I am going home now, goodbye. " Easy come easy go. Snip.[/QUOTE]My initial reaction to your post was, Good for you! You dodged a bullet. However, upon reflection, you may have made a mistake in thinking that she was going to be a freebie. I believe there is an old saying that men always pay for sex, either in cash, gifts, or emotional and financial support. From what you posted, you are probably 50+ years old and she is probably 20 years or more younger than you. This is not a situation where she is looking to fuck for free: if that was what she wanted, she could find a good-looking guy her own age. She wanted you to entertain her and spend money on her in exchange for sex with you, or set up a long-term arrangement. Do you think Melania fucks tubby Trump because he's a stud and a great guy?
By your own admission, she was the most beautiful woman you ever dated and the time you spent with her was one of the most memorable nights of your life. I don't know how much that pair of shoes would have cost, but you had no problem spending 3700 bhat short-time on a girl who was not in her league, and if you had met the woman who wanted the shoes at Spasso you would have felt lucky to have her let you fuck her for 6,000-8,000 bhat or more.
In these situations, I think you need to determine what you would pay in cash to fuck the girl and as long as the gifts cost less than that, you are not getting screwed. A pair of shoes might have been a small price to pay to see if she would fuck you later that night, and if she didn't, then get rid of her.