Lisbon

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626098]There is no blocking anyone coming in and out in Lisbon hotels. The girls just walk past reception and to the elevator. Unless the elevator requires a keycard, in which case you just meet her in the lobby after messaging her as to what you are wearing.

What you are describing is a South American, Asian and African thing, not a Western Europe thing. If it makes you more comfortable, pick a larger convention type hotel instead of a small boutique hotel. But I have stayed in a lot of different Lisbon hotels, granted usually a "western chain" or "European-chain" type hotel, and I have never encountered what you are describing. I have encountered it in Asia, South America and Africa (although I didn't see anyone in Africa), so I know what you are saying. It just doesn't apply to Portugal or Spain. Women of all races and ethnicities are treated as equals and allowed to walk throughout hotels as free persons, even if not registered. The same is true in the USA And Canada.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Helps a lot.

I don't think necessarily think of it as an issue of equality and treatment. It's more 1) hotels are private property and the assumption is you're there if you're paying for the services 2) most guests don't like the idea of non-registered people having free access to all the spaces (this is why some hotels have a "no guests" policy). It's not like it's written in the Bill of Rights of each country that "thou shalt have free access to all areas of a hotel without paying."

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2626164]Thanks for the info! Helps a lot.

I don't think necessarily think of it as an issue of equality and treatment. It's more 1) hotels are private property and the assumption is you're there if you're paying for the services 2) most guests don't like the idea of non-registered people having free access to all the spaces (this is why some hotels have a "no guests" policy). It's not like it's written in the Bill of Rights of each country that "thou shalt have free access to all areas of a hotel without paying."[/QUOTE]It probably is more of a "western civilization" concept to have a restaurant and gift shop within the hotel that is open to all, which keeps the front desk from getting too nosy. The other establishments within the hotel are going to get quite angry if the front desk questions people. But for what it is worth, you rarely see a security person at the front of a Lisbon hotel, and the front desk people just don't engage with anyone unless asked.

A lot of this is marketing. Portugal doesn't have crime like South America does. A hotel gets more business in South America if possible robbers are kept out of the hotel. In Portugal, the potential guests are going to be more irritated by security than happy about it. That all having been said, I generally use hotel loyalty points to book with a western chain, and if I use a different type of credit card reward where a local hotel is booked, the choices have generally been convention-type hotels if the choices are local Portuguese-owned hotels. But I have never read about any problems in Lisbon other than a guy who admitted he and the hooker were both staggeringly drunk when they came through the lobby after midnight.

Generally speaking, the main hurdle for a girl coming to your room is going to be a key-card controlled elevator. Otherwise, simply looking like you are supposed to be there is enough for them to go where they need to go.

Although I do know of a few ladies who do incall only for a mix of safety and discretion, I have only ever met one who did outcall and felt uncomfortable about the normal situation of coming and going. That was Matilde Guerra, the long since retired EP girl who was entitled and bitchy.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626299]It probably is more of a "western civilization" concept to have a restaurant and gift shop within the hotel that is open to all, which keeps the front desk from getting too nosy. The other establishments within the hotel are going to get quite angry if the front desk questions people. But for what it is worth, you rarely see a security person at the front of a Lisbon hotel, and the front desk people just don't engage with anyone unless asked.

A lot of this is marketing. Portugal doesn't have crime like South America does. A hotel gets more business in South America if possible robbers are kept out of the hotel. In Portugal, the potential guests are going to be more irritated by security than happy about it. That all having been said, I generally use hotel loyalty points to book with a western chain, and if I use a different type of credit card reward where a local hotel is booked, the choices have generally been convention-type hotels if the choices are local Portuguese-owned hotels. But I have never read about any problems in Lisbon other than a guy who admitted he and the hooker were both staggeringly drunk when they came through the lobby after midnight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2626504]Generally speaking, the main hurdle for a girl coming to your room is going to be a key-card controlled elevator. Otherwise, simply looking like you are supposed to be there is enough for them to go where they need to go.

Although I do know of a few ladies who do incall only for a mix of safety and discretion, I have only ever met one who did outcall and felt uncomfortable about the normal situation of coming and going. That was Matilde Guerra, the long since retired EP girl who was entitled and bitchy.[/QUOTE]Yes, but that isn't really a hurdle. You just meet them in the lobby and go up the elevator together.

The EP ladies almost always grew up in Portugal, so this South American concept of an armed security guard outside the hotel is alien to them. You just email or text them what you are wearing, and they come to the couch or chair where you are sitting and they say your name, and after you respond affirmatively, they often do the kiss on the cheek. (Although I think I read that Covid put an end to that Portuguese custom). The hotel check-in people could care less. One of the EP ladies came up behind me and said Boo, instead of the greeting I described. Ironically, she turned out to be one of the least fun once we got up to the room.

I agree. I replied to you to join the thread.

The reason I mention Matilde specifically is precisely because she griped about having to meet me in the lobby. As if that weren't something she would need to do half the time. It's really not a problem unless the girl is a twat.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2626633]Yes, but that isn't really a hurdle. You just meet them in the lobby and go up the elevator together.

The EP ladies almost always grew up in Portugal, so this South American concept of an armed security guard outside the hotel is alien to them. You just email or text them what you are wearing, and they come to the couch or chair where you are sitting and they say your name, and after you respond affirmatively, they often do the kiss on the cheek. (Although I think I read that Covid put an end to that Portuguese custom). The hotel check-in people could care less. One of the EP ladies came up behind me and said Boo, instead of the greeting I described. Ironically, she turned out to be one of the least fun once we got up to the room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BearSputnik;2626164]Thanks for the info! Helps a lot.

I don't think necessarily think of it as an issue of equality and treatment. It's more 1) hotels are private property and the assumption is you're there if you're paying for the services 2) most guests don't like the idea of non-registered people having free access to all the spaces (this is why some hotels have a "no guests" policy). It's not like it's written in the Bill of Rights of each country that "thou shalt have free access to all areas of a hotel without paying."[/QUOTE]If you made a booking for 2 persons, then you have the right to demand that a "girlfriend" of yours be allowed to enter your room as you have paid for it. If they make up several series of excuses, you can always threaten them by saying that you'll get back at then through Tripadvisor, etc. Establishments nowadays dread one-star ratings and negative reviews so 90% of the time that approach would work with uncooperative staff.

[QUOTE=Paladin30;2626838]If you made a booking for 2 persons, then you have the right to demand that a "girlfriend" of yours be allowed to enter your room as you have paid for it. If they make up several series of excuses, you can always threaten them by saying that you'll get back at then through Tripadvisor, etc. Establishments nowadays dread one-star ratings and negative reviews so 90% of the time that approach would work with uncooperative staff.[/QUOTE]Most of us do that anyway, even in hooker-friendly countries like Portugal where the hotel doesn't care, for the simple reason that they give you more towels. Especially in the age of Covid where some hotels (not sure about Portugal) are doing room cleaning and towel replacement only upon special request during a stay. Even before Covid, this was an issue. If you plan to see two or three ladies, look what happens. You take a shower before she arrives. She takes a shower at least once, and you can't figure out which is which. The first session is dirty sex with cum, vaginal fluid, and saliva flowing everywhere, so you take another shower. Christ, you are looking for more towels like six hours after check-in.

This is a major problem worldwide for incall escorts that use hotels. They don't want to get outed because every hotel in every country prohibits operating a business, regardless of legality, in their hotel. This is an interesting thing to discuss between cum #1 and cum #2. Some use the big tip system because there is a level of solidarity, in the USA And Canada anyway, between the mostly immigrant hotel maids and the sex workers. One lady was an expert at sneaking up to the towel cart during room cleanings and grabbing lots of towels while leaving a big tip. She stored the extra towels under the bed and left a big tip at the end, too. She doesn't want hotel management to see her room coded as a major towel using room.

But a lot of them just say fuck it and travel with an extra suitcase of her own towels. Part of the glamorous life of a high-end traveling escort is finding a coin laundromat in the big city to take a cab to, and do laundry that includes a tremendous number of towels.

Any good BBFS providers, SA / FB girls, or spots? I have negative STD tests for those that require it. DMs open too.

[QUOTE=ManchesterLad1;2630457]Any good BBFS providers?[/QUOTE]You'll have to ask them.

Anyone goes to Nuruspa Lisbon? If so, how much did you pay, and do the girls there fuck? I asked them on WhatsApp, they say most popular option is tantric massage $120 euros, and up to the girl if they have sex or not.

What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2631882]Anyone goes to Nuruspa Lisbon? If so, how much did you pay, and do the girls there fuck? I asked them on WhatsApp, they say most popular option is tantric massage $120 euros, and up to the girl if they have sex or not.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I go to Nuru Spa Lisboa, for me it's the top spa. Girls are good looking and liberal.

Lately have also been visiting their branch in Cascais, it's also top.

Girls fuck, if you go for the relaxing massage.

Nuru massage is also nice, but will depend on the girl for sex.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2631882]Anyone goes to Nuruspa Lisbon? If so, how much did you pay, and do the girls there fuck? I asked them on WhatsApp, they say most popular option is tantric massage $120 euros, and up to the girl if they have sex or not.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I go to Nuru Spa Lisbon, for me it's the top spa in Lisbon. Plenty of choice of good looking and liberal girls.

Sometimes I also go to their Cascais branch, it's similar in quality.

Girls fuck if you ask for a relaxation massage.

Nuru massage is also good, it will depend on the girl how it ends.

Best.

Mr Montanelas.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2631882]Anyone goes to Nuruspa Lisbon? If so, how much did you pay, and do the girls there fuck? I asked them on WhatsApp, they say most popular option is tantric massage $120 euros, and up to the girl if they have sex or not.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]This is the price list I got. 120 euro only gets you 40 minutes.

[QUOTE=Drazzilb;2624495]I'm heading to Lisbon soon as well, any leads?[/QUOTE]I was able to visit the house " Hustler " which is the first and second link. The entry way to the hose is a ally once there you will ring the doorbell and someone will answer and bring you to a room to see the girls. It's also a bar there I didn't stay for that. The price is 1 HR 100 and 60 for 30 minutes. It was 6 or 7 girls there when I arrived nothing special in my opinion. The rooms upstairs have a bed and shower. I will probably repeat.

Saw a report here a few pages back about a young girl named Soraia. She is 20 years old from Lisbon and has an absolute rocking body! Wow, her photos were rounded off with Photoshop but otherwise completely real and accurate. Couldn't believe it when I opened the hotel door to see her in her bright orange dress and high heels with that big smile. Her advertisement was [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/.[/URL].

We quickly exchanged pleasantries and the cash upfront. She asked if I liked BJ with condom or raw. A minute later she was down on her knees doing a BBBJ which finished me off for the first round after a few minutes of GFE service. Her skills were great in a girl next door way, not like a porn film. She immediately pulled back when shooting my load and the rest got on her tits and chest. She looked up smiling surprised and continued to stroke as I finished.

After cleaning up we shared some wine and chatted as we rubbed each other in the bed. Could not get over how nice her tits looked and how sweet and innocent her face was. A real university student making big cash on the side doing work she enjoyed.

Anyway we continued with another round with her trying a while to blow me up with myself completing by hand to get fully hard and back in the mood. Put a condom on and entered missionary. Bashed her in for a few more minutes and let out another long load in her.

Ordered her the next night. Similar experience but more intimate. Wish I had more time with this girl. BBBJ again without blowing early. Two times with condom in missionary, cowgirl, and doggy. Cowgirl was her favorite and the best for her front-heavy body as she also received pleasure playing with her chest. She was getting off riding and looking in your eyes. She enjoys so much to be intimate with you.

Paid her 150 EUR plus a nice tip for her efforts in oil massage outside of the action. She is a pleasant girl with decent English skills and a natural charm. Would gladly see this girl many more times.