East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1161503]It does happen that BBS will hide behind heavy curtains, or in some cases have the lights off. Usually though it's not a good sign, it means they have reasons to fear the police at that moment (rumors, or they have been tipped off) , they didn't want to close the shop, but they are worried about a raid and want to fly low and be ready to hide if they see anything suspicious. I don't really do BBS but if I did, I wouldn't do one that is in that mode.

Congratulations on losing your virginity! [/QUOTE]I didn't have full sex. But now I really am wondering about how safe is it to go to places in Shanghai. If you are caught up in a raid what is the penalty? I've been to malones and manhattan and heard about recent raids there and also about a recent police conference on tackling prostitution. Where is safe these days? I hate the idea of taking a bath, putting on a robe etc. If BBS is what that place was then it suits me just fine, albeit I don't want to end up on an episode of banged up abroad.

[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1161721]I didn't have full sex. But now I really am wondering about how safe is it to go to places in Shanghai. If you are caught up in a raid what is the penalty? I've been to malones and manhattan and heard about recent raids there and also about a recent police conference on tackling prostitution. Where is safe these days? I hate the idea of taking a bath, putting on a robe etc. If BBS is what that place was then it suits me just fine, albeit I don't want to end up on an episode of banged up abroad.[/QUOTE]Nowhere is safe. RTFF. Make proper contributions to this forum. Go join CLL or QQ.

Hi guys.

I still have no idea exactly how a KTV works.

When in Shanghai last time, I checked out the KTV in the JC Mandarin. Hostess and girls were friendly and keen but I ended up going to Bar Rouge.

I am in Nanjing right now. There is a KTV in the Sheraton hotel where I am staying, nice hotel.

I went to the entrance of the KTV, said I was a hotel guest and the guy at the entrance got very rude and said something like "no room". The place was empty! I was eventually allowed in to look around but the guys weren't too friendly. Seemed to be plenty of available girls.

If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them?

On the positive side, I went to the massage place and got a girl to come back to my room for a massage, a real cutie. I did get a hand shandy out of it for a little bit extra, well worth it and overall very cheap.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiNights; 1161495]Hi,

I've desperately been looking for a strip place in this city. I mean the king of place where you could get a nice strip tease, in public (like in Europe or the US) but where you could get an extra if needed.

That kind of places would be great for customers / bachelor parties / etc.

I know this would be doable in a KTV but in fact I don't know of any providing it anyways.

I heard many myths over the years about hidden Japanese / Korean places but found none.

Suggestions anyone? [/QUOTE]I've never seen nor even heard of a strip joint in China, except for some of the wilder ISG KTV parties (especially in CP).

[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1161721]I didn't have full sex. But now I really am wondering about how safe is it to go to places in Shanghai. If you are caught up in a raid what is the penalty? I've been to malones and manhattan and heard about recent raids there and also about a recent police conference on tackling prostitution. Where is safe these days? I hate the idea of taking a bath, putting on a robe etc. If BBS is what that place was then it suits me just fine, albeit I don't want to end up on an episode of banged up abroad.[/QUOTE]Ok, Smirnoff. Time to bust that cherry and get you broken in. If you're afraid of LE, my opinion would be. Go to Manhattan early. If LE was going to raid (a long shot on any given night) , they wouldn't do it when there's only girls there. I dropped in around 9:30, and it was me, about 3 other guys at the bar, and around 20 girls sitting at tables. Turn on your charm, go talk to a few, pick one, and then take her to your hotel. No showering with other guys, low risk of LE right at opening time, and your hotel won't be looking to block girls from entering at 10:00.

Deal Done. The first one's the hardest.

[QUOTE=Bob Sacamano;1161818]I've never seen nor even heard of a strip joint in China, except for some of the wilder ISG KTV parties (especially in CP).[/QUOTE]I've heard of strip joints that got busted in Canton. It was in the news several months ago.

[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1161817]Hi guys.

I still have no idea exactly how a KTV works.

I am in Nanjing right now. There is a KTV in the Sheraton hotel where I am staying, nice hotel.

If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them?

[/QUOTE]KTV Are part of the asian entertainment culture and are not to' be rated as brothels.

On the other hand look at the services you get from sauna in 3 to 5 star hotels.

Having said that I never recommend a KTV for a guy alone.

You have to be a party of 4 or more. Then you can have fun.

A KTV experience is a mix of singing, drinking, snacks, playing surrounded by nice girls.

You can choose one or more each from a line up of 10/12: if not happy with the choices you can ask for more parades. KTV have up to 200 girls working, obviously not all at same time.

Arriving late will mean less choice of girls. This means after 9pm.

Chinese go as early as 6. 30/7pm. Action ends towards midnight or you pay for an extra shift with the girls.

Depending on the venue things can be pretty wild or boring, in terms of girl entertaining you.

English speaking is not to be taken as granted, on the contrary.

Don't expect sex to happen, just kissing, groping, maybe some occasional nudity.

Some places close an eye on what happens behind the door of the room toilet (depends on chemistry with the girl and you tipping her). Some others might offer ST rooms or facilities.

Some girls are available for take away at the end of the evening. Check first with mama-san when you select them. A KTV evening is not overly expenses but does nog provide sex per se.

With the same or a bit more amount of money you can have a sauna experience of a similar length of time and sex for sure. And you can go in a sauna alone.

It is also recommended to go to a KTV with locals.

They will take you where they know and, more important, are known. They book the room ahead. Have their preferred mama-san.

It is not a place for wham-bam sex.

Hope this gets you the picture.

[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1161817]Hi guys.

If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them? [/QUOTE]Just an FYI, many KTV and MP and Spa located in / adjacent to hotel premises are actually operated by separate independent companies so the hotel can deny knowledge of their operations while still benefiting from the (customer) percieved relationship....

[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1161817]Hi guys.

I still have no idea exactly how a KTV works.

When in Shanghai last time, I checked out the KTV in the JC Mandarin. Hostess and girls were friendly and keen but I ended up going to Bar Rouge.

I am in Nanjing right now. There is a KTV in the Sheraton hotel where I am staying, nice hotel.

I went to the entrance of the KTV, said I was a hotel guest and the guy at the entrance got very rude and said something like "no room". The place was empty! I was eventually allowed in to look around but the guys weren't too friendly. Seemed to be plenty of available girls.

If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them?

On the positive side, I went to the massage place and got a girl to come back to my room for a massage, a real cutie. I did get a hand shandy out of it for a little bit extra, well worth it and overall very cheap. [/QUOTE]To Peter,

Most KTV and sauna only service regular customer and most are book in advanced on weekend, most KTV and sauna are own by different owner so if there are crack down the hotel can stay open, it is hard to crack down on KTV most of the girl are freelance not employed by the KTV so what happen in your hotel room is between you and the girl.

Fast Eddie 48

Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.

The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane.

I just wanted to get some recommendation on some good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering how far it is a journey from the Pu Dong airport. Would a regular taxi driver know how to get to Manhatten if I just tell him the name? Some easy directions would be really helpful.

I believe the regular price range of MPs are around 400RMB and if anyone could run down the basic prices for different establishments, it would be extremely appreciated. I have RTFF but mixed reports about different prices have me abit confused.

I've read of these KTVs and would it be correct to assume that it's the Room Salon equivalent in Korea? I've been to a few room salons in Korea and found them to be enjoyable but definitely pricier than I would like, especially since sex is not included as part of the initial cover charge and have to be negotiated afterwards. I probably wouldn't go here as I'm travelling solo and I assume it's mainly for a group of people.

And lastly, can anyone write here some basic Chinese (spelt in english of course) that I could use that would come in handy. Or some phrases that is commonly used by yourself.

Sorry if this is a big request by a non-contributor in this particular thread but as a total nooby in China, I felt it appropriate to ask.

Cheers!

Am thinking of visiting a sauna on the weekend, anyone know if there are any upcoming raids?

Take the Maglev from Pudong airport to Longyang Road. It is the last station this train stops. I think the ride is about 8 minutes or so at 480 kmh.

If you have luggage, go downstairs to arrivals, and store them. It is safe and very cheap to store your luggage. I have put everything from briefcase to laptops in there. Make sure you take your passport with you. Storage costs about 20 RMB per day per very large box that will fit about 2 carryon bags plus, laptop bag.

Follow the signs from arrival to the Maglev station. The ticket is about 100RMB or so. When you get off at Longyang Road station, go downstairs. You will see a McDonalds. Wlak past that MacDonalds. Ahead you will see an elevated highway. Past that elevated highway you will see a METRO department store. Cross the Inner Ring Elevated Road, walk past the Metro. Keep walking, past the METRO for about 5 to 10 minutes. You will see residential area. On the second or third cross street you pass, you will see some retail to your left. On the corner of that you will see a massage place. Can't miss it. Bear in mind you are still walking along Baiyang Road. I cannot remember the name of that cross street. All along that street, you will see about a dozen massage places. The first two, that looks very traditional are real massage places. After the first two, you will see a whole bunch of them, with girls standing looking out the glass. It will say massage.

Pick the "massage" place you like, choose your girl and it is about 300 RMB for an hour. She will take you to a room for a quickie. Then go for a nice 2 hour massage, at the first two places.

When you done, head back to the station, have a nice meal and MacDs. And head back. This should eat up about 4 to 6 hours of your time.

CT.

[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162151]Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.

The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane.

I just wanted to get some recommendation on some good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering how far it is a journey from the Pu Dong airport. Would a regular taxi driver know how to get to Manhatten if I just tell him the name? Some easy directions would be really helpful.

I believe the regular price range of MPs are around 400RMB and if anyone could run down the basic prices for different establishments, it would be extremely appreciated. I have RTFF but mixed reports about different prices have me abit confused.

I've read of these KTVs and would it be correct to assume that it's the Room Salon equivalent in Korea? I've been to a few room salons in Korea and found them to be enjoyable but definitely pricier than I would like, especially since sex is not included as part of the initial cover charge and have to be negotiated afterwards. I probably wouldn't go here as I'm travelling solo and I assume it's mainly for a group of people.

And lastly, can anyone write here some basic Chinese (spelt in english of course) that I could use that would come in handy. Or some phrases that is commonly used by yourself.

Sorry if this is a big request by a non-contributor in this particular thread but as a total nooby in China, I felt it appropriate to ask.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162151]Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.

The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane. [/QUOTE]Just a quick question. Do you have a Visa to enter China? If not, looks like you are stuck at the airport for 13 hours.

-K-

[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162151]Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.

The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane.

I just wanted to get some recommendation on some good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering how far it is a journey from the Pu Dong airport. Would a regular taxi driver know how to get to Manhatten if I just tell him the name? Some easy directions would be really helpful.

I believe the regular price range of MPs are around 400RMB and if anyone could run down the basic prices for different establishments, it would be extremely appreciated. I have RTFF but mixed reports about different prices have me abit confused.

I've read of these KTVs and would it be correct to assume that it's the Room Salon equivalent in Korea? I've been to a few room salons in Korea and found them to be enjoyable but definitely pricier than I would like, especially since sex is not included as part of the initial cover charge and have to be negotiated afterwards. I probably wouldn't go here as I'm travelling solo and I assume it's mainly for a group of people.

And lastly, can anyone write here some basic Chinese (spelt in english of course) that I could use that would come in handy. Or some phrases that is commonly used by yourself.

Sorry if this is a big request by a non-contributor in this particular thread but as a total nooby in China, I felt it appropriate to ask.

Cheers! [/QUOTE]For 13 hours, I would go to Bodi. Take the Maglev to the end station, take a taxi to the Bodi hotel for 20 to 30 Yuan. You get a nice shower, massage, layed, food and drink. You can stay for up to 10 hours for 600 to 800.

JB

Hi guys.

Thanks for the recommendations. Will definitely check them out. Any directions to this manhatten though? Or would it be too far of a travel to be of any use.

And thanks for the tip about visas, will definitely have to apply before I leave. I'm used to visas being granted at the immigration gate, so will look into that.

Cheers guys will make a report once I get some first hand info