Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Luminus;2471285]I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?

It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.[/QUOTE]To answer your question, class-ism, if that is a word, exists in Colombia and is similar to racism. May sound odd, but lots of upper class Colombians (Estrato 6) look down on the the poorer living in the barrios that are Estrata 1 and 2. When you sign up with Claro for cable, they have a tiered payment schedule with the same for EPM for utilities. A few years back I looked at property to buy located in Poblado and the real estate agent brought an attorney and when I asked him about something in Bellen, he made a reference that they were a bunch of low life's living there. And a few years back when I was with one of my Chicas in Provenza, I was introduced to a Colombian couple. And when they asked where my Chica lived and she told them in a barrio called Paris they gave her the cold shoulder. What I experienced was an eye opener for me but not surprising. So unless your good friends with a Colombian, I wouldn't be asking much about it, but typically where they live in the City will be a good indicator. Basically the wealthy are helping to subsidize the poor in Colombia based on their Estrata system.

The insurance will have to be some type of travel / medical ins that would also cover your flight back home. I am pretty sure your insurance won't cover you in a foreign country.

[QUOTE=Combo;2471284]I'll be returning to my beloved Brasil this winter. I'm just wondering. Can you just show them your insurance card or what? That seems like almost too easy of a requirement.

And of course what will be the deal returning to the US.[/QUOTE]

I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2471309]The insurance will have to be some type of travel / medical ins that would also cover your flight back home. I am pretty sure your insurance won't cover you in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471329]I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.[/QUOTE]In the past I have purchased travel insurance with Geo-Blue which cost about $ 250 a year for stays up to 60 days outside of the USA. The policy included evacuation benefit's, but better yet, if you go to one of the Hospitals they are associated with, and there are like three of them in Medellin, you don't need to pay and then be reimbursed, there only is a $ 50 deductible. As far as travel insurance for COVID, I have no idea whether travel insurance covers that.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471329]I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.[/QUOTE]That's good to know. My regular health insurance does cover me outside the country, but, like you, I have to pay first then turn in a claim. However, I doubt medical evacuation is covered. So specific travel medical insurance would be necessary.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471295]I doubt if very many of us can relate to the estrato 1 and 2 girls who we're spending time with. Things we take for granted are luxuries to them. Things like drywall and hot water. I feel there's too many opportunities to say something insensitive or offensive, which might take away from the session..[/QUOTE]There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. Also Colombians don't like Air Conditioning so they wouldn't consider that a luxury either, Aa least this has been my experience with the Estrato 1/2 girls I have been with.

As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.

I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.

[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2471301]Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. I see a fair few people walking around in my neighbourhood, and also a fair amount of traffic and police as well.[/QUOTE]I got stopped by police twice in Barranquilla. Both times in the Centro (bad area). No problems in the nicer areas when odd number IDs can shop this day and even number IDs shop that day. But the times I got caught was during the strict lock down times.

First time was during the third week when this all started so around the first week of April. It was a semi strict lock down period when you could only got out on certain days and for a reason. Very few places were open. I was in a short time hotel with this girl I was taking for the second time that week. On the way out of the room the guy at the hotel started to chat me in English. I was bored so I thought I would be friendly and chat a bit which I normally never do. I never make friends with the local guys. Always problems. Just a matter of time. After 10 minutes the cops arrive. Wanting to know where I was from, where staying, why am I was there. So the hotel guy says he will take care of it and asks how much money I have on me. I show him 40,000. I paid the girl and was going to grab a bite to eat somewhere so had little money. He says give it to him and he will give to the police so the restaurant employees next door do not see because the police were talking to them too. I gave to him and left. Saw the girl a block away and she looked curious as to what happened but I walked away quickly.

The hotel guy had one of his buddies walk to the park to get the police which was one block away and has a police sub-station. I do not think the police got any of the money. I was chatting with the hotel guy far down the hallway far from the entrance so could not say I was simply passing by to eat at the restaurant next door. I had eaten there 3 days earlier after I had the girl the first time so they knew me as "the foreigner guy". The police do not go door to door checking things out. It was the short time hotel cashier guy!

Second time was during strict lock down that they brought back in Baranquilla for Friday, Saturday, Sunday during last three weeks in June. The ATM did not pay me on Thursday but showed online that it had so I wrote a note and slid it in the mail slot at the bank. As I left 2 motorcycle police saw me as they were passing and stopped me. Told me to follow them behind a mini shopping stall (1.5 x 1.5 meter box). Said it was lock down and they will arrest me. Checked my pockets. Had my phone, 90,000, knife, mace. The knife and mace are no problem. It could be if they said I pulled the knife on them or tried to mace them. They asked for 200,000 then 100,000. I gave them 70,000. I just did not want to lose my phone. It was a holiday that Monday but also a lock down day. I pointed to the 5 people sitting at the corner across from us doing nothing. Like why not go after them? I just had to be wearing new shoes and a polo shirt versus sandals and a regular T-shirt. Plus, I forgot my bag.

I am a bit afraid so the furthest I went was to a restaurant 1 block away last weekend.

My advice. Do not go more than 1 kilometer /.5 mile away. Carry a bag with something in it like you had to have something. Not chips and soda. Emergency stuff like tooth paste, diarrhea medicine, tampons. Tampons would be best. They will probably laugh at you being your GF's * I mean Go-For.

I was 5 blocks north of Botero for the 4 day lock down. Street people of course are not bothered. Always seemed to me 7 locals out going to a hole in the wall convenience store or bakery or drug store even though most were closed. Police passing by every 10 minutes.

Now 5 blocks south and east of Botero (4 blocks east of San Antonio Station). Again homeless people and 7 locals in eye sight getting little items nearby. Police passing by every 7 minutes (police station 3 blocks away). If I was to walk around then there would be police every 4-5 minutes passing me.

If you were in Laureles I think you will be fine because less police I am sure. But have a purpose and a destination.

Change of topic:

Saw a new face at Botero. She just got there and stood 2 meters away. I just watched. She knew I was checking her out because I have a drooling issue. Not real hot but pretty face. Four guys approached her in 45 minutes or less. All shot down. Maybe she was waiting for me. So I took my turn. She texted condom and 35,000. OK let's go. We did the deed. I only need my 3 positions not even a BJ. Very vanilla. After I asked her why she shot down the 4 guys. She told me they wanted things she did not to do. Funny thing is I never told her what I wanted. Guess she was just going to say no to whatever I tried and she did not want to do.

This one is not starving either Pollonegro.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471339]There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. [/QUOTE]Most of the world does not have drywall. It is kind of a modern, cheapskate, quick way of building the interior of a place. Like the 3 little pigs: straw, wood, bricks.

Funny how we think others should want what we see as being better or luxurious in our eyes. I bought a bunch of modern day gadgets for my ex-girlfriend's house in Cali. She did not go near them. That included the hot water I had installed in the shower.

My Russian girl's crib is way better than mine and she is confused why I do not like to stay there often. I like being home in my own shit. Pool or no pool. Many mongers write reports thinking a chick will want to stay at their luxurious hotel. Nah. The chick wants to go home to where she is most at ease, regardless of plush linens and shit. I understand that feeling. That is why I have no problem getting basic digs when I am in Colombia. Those chicks do not need to be impressed and I don't either.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2471079]I think it is a political one as well. The government set the date without a plan or restrictions so now it is stuck.[/QUOTE]Nounce, the government has been changing dates all the time. Thing is that there is a political rivalry between the president and mayor of Bogota like the Republicans and Dems here. The Bogota mayor will hammer the president if he opens up the country and there is a sharp increase in case numbers and given that all the numbers are rising, the only reason for optimism is that he said September 1 was the planned reopen date.

Thing is that he has changed things before. He opened things up; cases got worse, and then closed them back down.

I think the travel ban was a huge mistake, and the president has stupidly painted himself into a corner.

Nothing would make me happier than to see the number of cases plummet and the September 1 reopen date be a reality. It is just there is nothing in the data, and I mean nothing, that is cause for optimism. The numbers just flat out suck right now.

[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2471301]Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. [/QUOTE]People are allowed to walk their dogs during the weekend quarantine. I know 2 chicas that have dogs and live close enough to come over with their dogs. I have one coming over on Saturday. She will even stop by the tienda and pick up something for me, if I need it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471064]Hopefully this won't start another argument.

The virus has behaved the same everywhere. The difference is how the people behave.
[/QUOTE]So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?

JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.

Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.

I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?

The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.

If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471357]Most of the world does not have drywall. It is kind of a modern, cheapskate, quick way of building the interior of a place. Like the 3 little pigs: straw, wood, bricks.

Funny how we think others should want what we see as being better or luxurious in our eyes. I bought a bunch of modern day gadgets for my ex-girlfriend's house in Cali. She did not go near them. That included the hot water I had installed in the shower.

My Russian girl's crib is way better than mine and she is confused why I do not like to stay there often. I like being home in my own shit. Pool or no pool. Many mongers write reports thinking a chick will want to stay at their luxurious hotel. Nah. The chick wants to go home to where she is most at ease, regardless of plush linens and shit. I understand that feeling. That is why I have no problem getting basic digs when I am in Colombia. Those chicks do not need to be impressed and I don't either.[/QUOTE]I agree to some degree. When I first came to Medellin, some girls would want to leave as soon as we finished fucking, despite my modern penthouse, jacuzzi, unlimited booze, and me being relatively young, tall, respectful, and in good shape. Those chicas were not very comfortable with me, a person from a different cultural background who can't speak Spanish. This is especially true with 18-year-olds; for them, the concept of building a strong reputation as a hooker doesn't exist. They just want to quickly fuck a foreigner to make a few quick bucks, and go party on a farm.

You have to work with those girls and learn their taste in music, drug, food, and alcohol. Repeat with them a few times, show them you can dance well, make them cum while fucking them, and, more importantly, make them feel at home. Soon they will become addicted to the unlimited booze, tussi, food, surround sound speakers in every room, the jacuzzi, the panoramic view of Medellin on your balcony, and the daily maid service. Next thing you know, they will start to bring their friends over (I believe the girls who bring over her friends are taking a cut of what I give her friends). I had many outstanding threesomes and foursomes with girls brought over by my favorites. Most of my favorites girls were clock watchers initially, but once I made them feel that they are entitled to the Provenza penthouse luxury, then the hard thing is to convince them to leave. When I was in Medellin, every night, I have girls who want to come over for free to sleep with me; I guess for them the free booze, jacuzzi, and tussi are worth it, they also know how generous I am, they probably deduced that I would tip them at least 300 k anyway. But I know better; the most expensive sex is free sex, I either turn them down or insisting on paying.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2471228]Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.

Looks like she's opening up in August.

Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.

As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information brotha Balboa; I appreciate it. In my heart, Brazil is forever the number one place for mongering. It is so good to know that Brazil will re-open soon. I miss my time in Brazil.

However, I have invested too much in Medellin; I need to go back there. I have already put in 6 months of private Spanish lessons. I've spent easily 40,000 dollars on developing relationships with Chicas in Medellin from October last year until the end of February 2020. I have established solid relationships with 12 chicas all between 18-21; they will give me the most divine threesomes and foursomes, quarantine, or no quarantine.

I'm in the talks about renting / buying my favorite three level Penthouse apartment in Provenza; all my girls love the love-nest jacuzzi on the roof-top. I'm convinced the moment I make it cross that border, I will be in heaven, the quarantine situation in Medellin will only enhance my experiences, I might be able to pull a five or six-some with my favorite girls. I can imagine having six 18-year-olds living with me 24/7; I can fuck any of them in any way I like, at any time I want. I would be working until 3 am and go in my spare bedroom to fuck three girls together, completely bare, they will share cock like their lives depend on it. Then I will go to sleep with three different girls in the master bedroom. I would wake up in at 10 am get a double blowjob in the jacuzzi before calling into my first meeting, and this is only a typical weekday, it is the tip of the ice-burg, my weekend routine is too insane to put in writing.

If I have spent 40 k in relationship development Brazil, I'm sure I will have a better experience in a penthouse in Ipanema, but this is the price we have to pay with capital investment. It is not easy to change cou.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471295]I've talked with Colombian friends about estrato s, but it was an issue within the subject we were discussing, rather than the main subject. Personally it's not a subject I would ever bring up. Here's my rationalization:

About 30 years ago I had a friend who was a lead carpenter. His wife also had a good job, so they were doing okay. However, they lived in a modest subdivision in Santee. A big contractor in San Diego wanted to hire him, and it would have been an excellent hire. My friend not only had the skills, he had the personality. People were happy to work with him, they were more productive and did better work.

The contractor took my buddy and his wife out to dinner, then headed back to his house for drinks and to talk business. He lived on the bluff overlooking Old Town San Diego with a great view of Mission Bay. While they were all sitting in the jacuzzi, drinking champagne and enjoying the view, the contractor said something like "I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight?" My friend said "I don't know about the rest of them, but 2 of us are sitting in your jacuzzi drinking your champagne."

That one remark completely ended his chance of hiring my friend.[/QUOTE]I agree. I hired a few very talented PhDs and a bunch of people with Master's degrees in Medellin. I don't know what estrato they are in, but they all own apartments in Poblado, I assume it will cost them 200 k to 400 k in dollars for an excellent three-bedroom apartment near the Santa Fe mall. In where I live in California, you can't even buy a bathroom with 400 k. A typical person with their education and work experience in California would easily make 300-400 k a year; it hurts me to even think about how much I'm paying them.

I never mention money, social status, and my housing arrangement when I'm in Medellin. I just talk about salsa, art, science, and insisting on buying everyone aguardiente throughout the night. I can't bend reality, but I treat all my friends (chicas included) in Medellin with the utmost respect, and they all know it.

Just curious, what are some of the telltale signs of chicas from estrato 1 or 2. One of my gusto girls actually threw back the 500 k I give her because she thinks it is too little and walked out on me. Of course, I went to Paradise, on the same night, use the 500 k found an excellent girl to fuck all night, is this a sign of a girl from a relatively higher estrato?

Now that sounds like some great advice, thank you.

Lumi.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471295]

Stick with compliments and safe subjects.[/QUOTE]