Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2686282]LOL. Dude you keep going off the rails. What argument? My wife did not dump me. I was the plaintiff in the case. I asked her how she wanted to divide everything up. We had an agreement on that so that is what I put in the paperwork. When I gave it to her she did not want to sign it. So I had to get it served by the sheriff's office. She eventually said she didn't know I was serious about wanting a divorce and thought I just wanted to be apart for a little while. When we went to court the judge saw that she was just trying to be vindictive and gave me most of the stuff. Later on she asked me when I would take her to do all the stuff that she refused to do before like riding my bike with me and going to the shooting range. I said what the fuck. Why would you want to do it now that we have broken up, but not when we were married and I was begging you to do it?

And how is that? I have not made any commitments or promises to anyone. Ring or green card? Where are you getting this stuff from? I let chicks come visit me in the States. They have to get their own visas and own tickets. I have not told any of them they could live with me or I would marry them. You have me fucked up. As a matter of fact, one chick that I fuck with in Bogota told me yesterday that she knows I only want her for my sexual desires. I said okay we will not fuck anymore then. Then she says but she wants to have a kid by me. I don't have to promise anyone shit. No need for me to hold carrots on sticks in front of chicks like you do. They love me for me, not because I am footing the bill..[/QUOTE]OK, first, I would not be bragging about banging girls for free in Colombia. Colombia is low end at best, so I can only imagine what these girls look like. All girls send nude photos now, especially Colombian girls.

Time is money and if you do not understand this concept, then you probably need a part tine job.

If you have truly banged over 2000 girls for free, this takes a tremendous amount of time and effort, so you are probably paying way more than myself or Elvis. The difference between me and you, is I admit I am paying. My time is far more valuable then money. This was not always the case.

Also, I feel guilty, some of these girls are flat broke and are struggling. Many of them give money to there parents even though they are broke. I feel guilty how little money I give the model.

That I have been with almost 2 years. All she does is make my life better.

So many of the things you are excusing Elvis of you are doing the exact same thing.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2686093]Has been a while but here's another heaping helping of BS reasoning from JJBee62. Everything isn't a "trade." The effort you put into chatting up and scoring with a regular girl isn't a "payment" to her. Such has nothing to do with payment to an employer who profits from your efforts. The analogy of a baby "paying with screams" to it's mother for breastfeeding is equally ridiculous. This is a mere signal to the mother that a need exists so she can provide the attention she desires to give. Congratulations, your fallacy is "fake analogy."

https://fallacyinlogic.com/false-analogy-definition-and-examples/

If anything would show us that everything isn't a trade it would be the outpouring of support for Ukrainians at this time. Many are following the dictates of their conscience by responding with compassion, and with no expectation of anything in return. To accuse them of any selfish motives would not only be presumptuous, but would betray a lack of familiarity with conscience or compassion. Many people do operate only with selfishness, but not everyone.[/QUOTE]Thank you. When I read that I finally realized who you remind me of, and I almost wish I could introduce you.

Like you, she yearns to be the center of attention, but she lacks any qualities to earn the focus of others. Her conversational range is limited and she's neither witty or charming. She even has the same nervous twitch, when she's about to unleash a non-sequitur in order to get back in the conversation.

This limits her to inappropriate behavior whenever she feels neglected. At times it's annoying, but mostly it's just pathetic.

I'm going to state a few facts. Whether or not you agree with them does not change them.

1. Each person has a finite lifespan.

2. Engaging in any activity precludes other activities.

3. Every activity, because it occupies some portion of a finite lifespan has value.

Any interaction with another is a trade. You are exchanging something they value for something you value. Whether this is conscious or instinctive is irrelevant. A baby crying because it's hungry, or you throwing a fit because you feel ignored is a trade. If mommy wants to have some peace, she needs to find and fix the problem. Fortunately, since your dependence on me isn't legally binding, I can ignore, abuse or placate you depending on my mood. Sorry. It's not my day to change your diaper.

If you want to have sex with someone, you have to offer something they value to get something you value. If nothing else, you're trading time for pussy Unfortunately, some people have a limited inventory of qualities valued by women. However, cash is often an acceptable substitute. Even better, the economic disparity between Colombia and the US makes the P4 P route cheaper than any traditional exchange.

Let's move from the wading pool of your understanding into the deep end. Just like any conversation which is not about Jim Morrison, this is going to be over your head.

Every human action is inherently selfish, whether it's showing support for Ukraine, or running into a burning building to rescue a cat, everything is done for a perceived personal profit. Calling it conscience illustrates my point perfectly. It makes you feel better to do certain things. You profit. How much of that support is coming from people who feel badly about giving the support?

Unfortunately, that's all the time I have for your attention seeking tirade. You'll just have to squall and wallow in your shit all by yourself.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2686292]Only fans? Dudes bang smoking hot chicks off only fans for Latin America prices? Seeking arrangement? Smoking hot chicks in their 20's fucking middle age men off there for how much- prolly 500 $ a pop? You must be joking if your trying to argue you can fuck chicks as hot as the girls in Mexico or Colombia for less than a few hundred bucks and that's if you get lucky! I live in the USA bro, there is no city where your fucking hot college girls for 100 $. Now if a dude is a stud and he's playing his cards right, yea maybe he can get some talent on the cheap from SA, but the USA is not in the same Universe as Colombia or Mexico for paying for sex.[/QUOTE]I hate to intrude, but until now nobody mentioned a price range. And the price difference isn't as much as you think. However, you can quickly make up the difference in volume.

Here's the math:

If the stars align, I can fly to Medellin for $600, round trip. I could get that down under $500 by flying Spirit, but my legs exceed the available legroom. However, I now fly first class, which is about $1100. Locally I can get close to MDE quality for $200, compared to $50 in MDE. Ignoring food, lodging, taxi, airport parking etc. My first fuck in Medellin costs me $650. It costs me the same (flying coach) to fuck 4 girls locally or in Medellin.

Granted, the Colombian girls are a bit younger and prettier, and give more time and better service, but it's not a huge difference. However, after #4 the price per girl quickly drops in Medellin.

To help you understand why you always pay, one way or another, here's an example.

Let's say you're hanging out in a bar in Laureles, when you're not hitting the El Centro casas. Imagine there's an attractive Venezuelan girl who also frequents the area. In this purely hypothetical situation, you really want to get her between the sheets and you try to find a way in for days. Not only are you putting time and effort into the attempt, you're spending money towards achieving your goal, all to no avail. That little Vennie remains unattainable.

One evening, when she's hanging around with her street rat buddies, you decide to treat them all to pizza. You trade something of value, money, for something of value, pizza. You then offer the pizza, something with value, to everyone. What value do you expect to receive in return? There are 2 things you hope to receive in return. First, you hope your act of generosity will finally get you the pussy you've been working so hard for.

The other thing is gratitude. You want all those street rats to say "thank you mister gringo. " If nobody, except the bartender thanks you, you feel slighted.

Just imagine yourself in that situation. If what you say is true, that the attempt to convince someone to have sex with you isn't an expense, you won't be upset, because the pizza offering waa an altruistic act, with no expectation of compensation. No thanks would be necessary. The simple knowledge that the pizza was enjoyed is all that's needed.

How do you think you would react? Would you shrug it off, because expecting gratitude for acts done without motive is irrational? Or would you lash our in anger because you didn't receive the compensation you wanted?

Clearly, yelling at a bunch of ungrateful street rats is a bad idea. But what if there is someone else? Someone far enough away and nice enough nor to slap some sense into you? If, hypothetically, that person pointed out gratitude from a bunch of punks was unlikely, would you take out your anger on him?

It's my belief, if such an unlikely scenario occurred, you would react with anger, taking out your frustration on anyone who crossed you. What's your opinion?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2686069]I'm not into moral judgments I may judge your sanity and / or intelligence or lack thereof.
But prob never your morals, I believe they are way too subjective (other than homicide / abortion), and this is a monger forum afterall.
Could you imagine if we judged morality here LMAO.
[/QUOTE]Come now, we do it all the time! Even if it may not be directlly, our actons are mainly guided by morality, so when we judge actions, we are hudging morality. It makes me laugh when people say, for example "I don't judge you, how dare you judge me? Whenever people say this, its clear that they have done very little self-examination bcos we judge others almost every single second of every day.

One question I want to ask you. I have noted you denegrate "third world putas" several times here. You say stuff like it would be crazy to marry or have a serious relationship with a third world puta. I want to ask why you think a third world puta woukd make a worse partner than a first world puta, or than any woman that is not a puta?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2686319]LMAO ever hear of affirmative action LOL.

They nag their way into the job market then they cry for equal pay with men.

To pay for their bullshit stoodent loans they must pay back for their worthless degrees in gender studies from shitholes like Oberlin et al.

They want to get equal pay for just showing up, usually late because the Starbucks dum dum that took their old job fucked up their black cafe LOL.

They don't sell pussy on street corners like their mother did, they prefer to get their Mrs degree and eventually find some simp to pay their loans so they don't even have to pretend at the office anymore.

They still sell pussy in the USA a plenty, the price is just exponentially higher than the good ole days.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point, to most women in USA, its not sell their pussy or miss rent / car payment / food. Now of course there are the ghetto hood rats who sell their pussy, but do I really want to pay my money to fuck those nasty skanks with their ghetto attitudes? Hell no! Have I done it drunk once in awhile and regretted it the second I came, guilty as charged sir LOL. Fact of the matter is, more women graduate college than men today and the labor market is no longer based on agriculture, construction, or manufacturing like it was until the 1970's, today the market is based on the service sector, healthcare, education, federal employment, retail, and the tech industry. These are all industries where a women can perform her job just as well as a man and are just as easily hired. This isn't 1960 where there is a need for "Affirmative action." Whether you want to admit it or not, women can all perform these jobs just as good or mostly as good as men and thus are deserving of wages which keep them from selling their pussy.

Yes, I suppose you can find hot girls to fuck in the USA, but you are going to pay out the ass for it and you are better off just fuckin girls for free. I am no longer banging hot college chicks for free out of the bars, those days are gone for me. But I can pull chicks in their 30's and fuck them for free, so why would I pay stupid prices for bad sex with a college hooker who is going to charge me if I am lucky 500 a pop and I have to hunt her down on seeking arrangements a week in advance and reveal my identity. Nah its was easier to just fuck divorcees in their 30's or 40's who are still half decent look looking.

I spoke to a friend of a friend who uses SA, he pays 1000 $ a month allowance for his girl, says he sees her for 2 or 3 dates a month. I saw the girl and she is not bad lookin, but he also said it takes him weeks to find set ups like that and its a ton of work and there is also 2 or 3 dates you got to go on to set that up. There is no street action at all with decent looking girls, only crack heads you would pay not to fuck, unless you are a dirty mother.

Fucker. Now I have done the online thing with the old back page and other similar sites, and they are all crack heads and anyone who says different is a liar. Yes there are diamonds in the rough, but most of the time your getting a nasty ***** you got to have a real load on to stick you dick in and they are charging you 2-3 hundred bucks. In Medellin, I am getting all night GFE for 200-300 k, that's less than 100 bucks American with a soldi 7 or 8 clean young chick. Like I said pay for play in the USA and Mexico / Colombia is a different universe. Fly out to Vegas and ask a decent chick how much she is charging and then think of RamD84 when she tells you 1100 a go round LOL.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2686292]Only fans? Dudes bang smoking hot chicks off only fans for Latin America prices? Seeking arrangement? Smoking hot chicks in their 20's fucking middle age men off there for how much- prolly 500 $ a pop? You must be joking if your trying to argue you can fuck chicks as hot as the girls in Mexico or Colombia for less than a few hundred bucks [/QUOTE]You are adding to your argument. You simply said the majority of hookers in the USA are horrible looking and strung out on drugs. I said that is not true. Now you are saying there are attractive ones but they are expensive? You did not bring up price before, so likewise I said nothing about price. But now you are saying that I am arguing that chicks can be fucked at a specific price range. Nope. I never said that.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2686335]OK, first, I would not be bragging about banging girls for free in Colombia. Colombia is low end at best, so I can only imagine what these girls look like. All girls send nude photos now, especially Colombian girls. [/QUOTE]To me women are women, people are people. I do not give a fuck where somebody is from. We are all probably just one boat ride from not being from the places we are from anyway. So whether you are classifying people as high end or low end based on their nationality, hey I guess you are above those low end humans in that country.

I did not say every woman I am fucking is Colombian. You are saying Colombian women are some of the ugliest on the planet and guys should be ashamed to be fucking them?

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2686335]Time is money and if you do not understand this concept, then you probably need a part tine job.[/QUOTE]I never said anything about time not being money. Elvis said time is money and he intends to only fuck his one girlfriend. I asked why is he wasting his time which means money on this website which has the purpose of finding chicks to fuck if he is not planning to fuck other chicks. He is wasting and/or losing out on money by being here if his time is truly money.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2686335]If you have truly banged over 2000 girls for free, this takes a tremendous amount of time and effort, so you are probably paying way more than myself or Elvis.[/QUOTE]I did not specify free or paid. But it is both together; way more free than paid though. Maybe I am spending more, but that does not mean I am paying more. What does me spending on myself have to do with me paying chicks? So for you it is better to pay a chick $300 than to spend $400 on yourself? Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2686515]You are adding to your argument. You simply said the majority of hookers in the USA are horrible looking and strung out on drugs. I said that is not true. Now you are saying there are attractive ones but they are expensive? You did not bring up price before, so likewise I said nothing about price. But now you are saying that I am arguing that chicks can be fucked at a specific price range. Nope. I never said that.[/QUOTE]The majority of the hookers in the USA are skanks who I would not shell out my cash to fuck. They are gross. Majority= 51%, I will say more like 80-90% based off what I have seen. I don't fuck USA hookers much because they are either skanks or way over priced and out of my budget and its easier to just fuck normal chicks for free around my age, and they are half decent. I am a northeast guy, so I am basing this off Philly and NYC. I have heard from other guys you can get decent girls off SA, but you are going to pay out the ass for it. Like in the thousand dollar range for a night of GFE. I won't consider that for even a second.

Look, if I am wrong and there is a place where you can get GFE with hot clean girls for around 200 $, please let me know, dm me. It will me save me having to travel in other countries to get that high end GFE for decent prices like I love.

So tell me, where are you getting hot clean girls for 200 $? Not 90 lb Asians in the massage parlors, not ghetto hood rats, not mentally unstable hippy weirdos. Clean decent disease and drug free chicks in their 20's for 200 $. Where do I find them on an easy and consistent basis? In Colombia, its shooting fish in a barrel to find that, Mexico is almost as easy. If there is a city like that in USA, please share the knowledge kind sir?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2686292]Only fans? Dudes bang smoking hot chicks off only fans for Latin America prices? Seeking arrangement? Smoking hot chicks in their 20's fucking middle age men off there for how much- prolly 500 $ a pop? You must be joking if your trying to argue you can fuck chicks as hot as the girls in Mexico or Colombia for less than a few hundred bucks and that's if you get lucky! I live in the USA bro, there is no city where your fucking hot college girls for 100 $. Now if a dude is a stud and he's playing his cards right, yea maybe he can get some talent on the cheap from SA, but the USA is not in the same Universe as Colombia or Mexico for paying for sex.[/QUOTE]I agree 1000%. There is nothing like that in the USA that is not butt ugly.

Mr. E fucks ugly women while other guys go for high end. I am not going to brag on my woman but for him to call her "a woman without a job" and his women with jobs better is hilarious.

The problem with the USA is not just the high end escort services. The gal who fucked Kobe Bryant and then said he raped her got $500,000+, the porn star ho who fucked Trump got $140,000, and now you have the Deshaun Watson's hos asking for millions. So the price of pussy with lawsuits and FOSTA and SESTA has gone through the roof as has the legal risk.

I think Mr. E's ego act and how he is getting so much pussy for nothing is coming apart at the seams.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2686515]You are adding to your argument. You simply said the majority of hookers in the USA are horrible looking and strung out on drugs. I said that is not true. Now you are saying there are attractive ones but they are expensive? You did not bring up price before, so likewise I said nothing about price. But now you are saying that I am arguing that chicks can be fucked at a specific price range. Nope. I never said that.[/QUOTE]I said due to America's economic strength, women are not financially forced into prostitution which leads most prostitutes, "not all prostitutes", but most to be forced into prostitution because they do not have the required skills to maintain a job due to a drug addiction, mental health problem, or are extremely unattractive and unable to find a man to support them, or a combination of the three. Now, there are diamonds in the rough, but they are going to cost a substantial amount of money due to the strength of America's economy and a country which has very high wages. Why would a chick sell her pussy to a fat bald middle age man for a days wage? She wouldn't, she would just get a boyfriend and work. Now if you are paying her a weeks worth of salary, 1000 $, you're going to get some fucking in with some decent talent. How many dudes out there are going to consistently pay 1 k to get a fuck in, not many. This all goes back to my initial statement which is the level of talent a man can buy in the USA is no where near or easy to find as Mexico or Colombia and that is truth, there is no argument here.

If you want to nit pick and be one of those dudes who is going to try to find the most insignificant little flaws in my argument like your a big time attorney trying to argue a court case, then go ahead bro, have at it. Personally, I like to spit the truth and keep it simple for people to read and learn from and help other mongers.

LOL, to anyone thinking of mongering in the USA, you better be loaded, have a ton of time on your hands, and be patient. Or enjoy some nasty hoes. For everyone else, book a flight to Medellin LOL.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2686478]Come now, we do it all the time! Even if it may not be directlly, our actons are mainly guided by morality, so when we judge actions, we are hudging morality. It makes me laugh when people say, for example "I don't judge you, how dare you judge me? Whenever people say this, its clear that they have done very little self-examination bcos we judge others almost every single second of every day.

One question I want to ask you. I have noted you denegrate "third world putas" several times here. You say stuff like it would be crazy to marry or have a serious relationship with a third world puta. I want to ask why you think a third world puta woukd make a worse partner than a first world puta, or than any woman that is not a puta?[/QUOTE]Do you know there are different types of judgments?

Moral judgments, value judgments et al.

Ie, I don't think putas are immoral, I just think they lack value as homo sapiens (imagine if you will having a daughter with a Tijuana or MDE puta).

To paraphrase the TM the only honest female is a puta.

I am single and have zero interest in a romantic relationship with any female, so you're asking the wrong monger LOL (if I won 500 million usd today I wouldn't want Miss America next week).

But in conclusion 99.99999% of all females are putas, its just a matter of degree.

Some stand on the corner, some on FB, some work at my office etc etc etc.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2686335]Also, I feel guilty, some of these girls are flat broke and are struggling. Many of them give money to there parents even though they are broke. I feel guilty how little money I give the model.

That I have been with almost 2 years. All she does is make my life better.[/QUOTE]Good point DF. That is something Mr. E does not get. All he does is talk about women with regards to cost. He does not understand the concept that a good woman can bring a man value.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2686523] Elvis said time is money.[/QUOTE]Oh only I said that? Why do you keep saying time is money only applies to me? I guess time not being money means nothing to you because you do not have a job.

When you attribute the phrase time=money to only me, you look like a complete bullshit artist Mr. E. Your ability to keep score makes you a candidate to be a Russian judge.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2686523]To me women are women, people are people. I do not give a fuck where somebody is from. We are all probably just one boat ride from not being from the places we are from anyway. So whether you are classifying people as high end or low end based on their nationality, hey I guess you are above those low end humans in that country.

I did not say every woman I am fucking is Colombian. You are saying Colombian women are some of the ugliest on the planet and guys should be ashamed to be fucking them?

I never said anything about time not being money. Elvis said time is money and he intends to only fuck his one girlfriend. I asked why is he wasting his time which means money on this website which has the purpose of finding chicks to fuck if he is not planning to fuck other chicks. He is wasting and/or losing out on money by being here if his time is truly money.

I did not specify free or paid. But it is both together; way more free than paid though. Maybe I am spending more, but that does not mean I am paying more. What does me spending on myself have to do with me paying chicks? So for you it is better to pay a chick $300 than to spend $400 on yourself? Different strokes for different folks I guess.[/QUOTE]I do not pay between $300-400 in Mexico. I pay between $150-250. Yes, I do question why anyone would hang out in Colombia.