Taipei

I arrived in Taipei via Hong Kong. Due due the doom and gloom here in this forum I over spent in HK as I did not think there would be much action.
I was staying in the Grand Formosa Regent, a very nice 5 * hotel. It does not have a bar to speak of so there is no chance of in hotel action unless the health spa has special services. I would doubt it but you can try a health massage with skin treatment including cinnamon sticks, cloves, black pepper, magnolia flowers, ginger and avocado being listed among the ingredients to get you skin back in full health. A bargain at just $7000 for two hours. I think I saw a $12000 treatment somewhere as well.

I decided on a more straight forward way for improving my outlook on life. Just how to find it. I had planned to go to a few bars but was not in the mood for drinking. So I went for some walks around the area of the hotel. I previous report had SW on Linsen N Road down near Minquan E Road. I walked a lot in this area and up all the little lanes past the KTV bars. There are what appear to be short stay hotels. These are any where between Changchun Road and further north. I assume these cater for the KTV trade as I did not see much street action. There were a few girls that might have been working but seem to be going somewhere rather than strolling about. Possibly to the KTV.
I saw one or two low grade girls about but they did not show much interest and I did not try to attract there attention.
I did see one stunner. She wore an elegant white wool jacket and did not look like a SW at all. I figured she was as she was standing in a dark spot for a long time just hanging about. I walked past but she couldn't have shown less interest.
Oh well, back to the hotel.

On the way back I was approached by a few different mamasans and pimps. They asked if I want a young girl. Most asked $5000. It came down to $4000 without effort.
I negotiated with one mama down to $3500. She wanted me to give my room number and the girl would go up. She said something that I took to be "no change", i.e. if the girl that came up was not suitable they would not change. I did not want to give my room number out so left. Some of the mamasans ride around on bicycles. You will find them or they will find you on the block bounded by Changchun, Linden, Minsheng and Zhongshan Roads. Also in or near the park at the back of the hotel.
Some offered to bring the girl down for a look. It would take about 15 minutes.
The next night I decided to try.
I was approached by a man on Zhongshan Road near to a 7-11 and I think the Ambassador Hotel. He was a overweight man about 60 who spoke excellent English. He wanted $5000 but came down to $4000. He would get the girl in 10 minutes and I could have a look and leave if I did not like her. He said she was early twenties and a taipei local who worked in a department store during the day. I decide to have a look as he did not look very threatening so I was sure I could just leave (busy street as well). She took 15 minutes to arrive by car with a driver. She looked pretty good and was as described so I agreed. They asked me to get in the car as it would be a long 5 minute walk. I was a little nervous of this but it made sense and the girl looked like one that was not involved in any thing dodgy. Hope it was not to be a bad decision. Anyway arrived at the hotel. Got out and the man asked me to pay the girl now. I insisted I would pay the girl in the room after. Eventually this was agreed to after I was going to walk off. He then asked for $200 for his time. I told him to go jump. OK no problem and I go off with the girl. Seem no problem bringing the girl and no one is watching anyway.

The girl speaks a little english, actually pronunciation is quite good and she corfirms she is a local. Name was something like Shuwan. She confirmed she only worked part time. She would not tell me how much she had to give to the men.

She is a very small girl. Less than 40kg maybe 35 and very skinny with not much tits but nice nipples.
Start with shower together where she washes me down. Get to the bed and she starts licking me all over with kisses.
Licks balls and around cock before starting a BBBJ. I would say pretty good BJ but was not so long time. I did not ask for more. I sure she would have been OK.
She then starts a little more passionate kissing including tongue action. I hold her by the butt and slip my hand around intending to play with her pussy with my hand around her (she is so small) She had lots of lube from her ass to pussy. I played with her ass and this drove her wild.
I then entered her (pussy) and we fu*ked for ages in various positions. She was pretty passionate and made lots of noise. Some stime active and then very passive just making noise. She sarted to really get into it and her pussy became very wet. I guess some of it was acting but sure she also came a few time with nice contractions in her pussy.
Did not come quickly and then had a short rest before continuing.
Eventually after long screw I pulled out and came on her stomach.
She was an excellent lay and excellent service.
Experience was like a having Japanese AV star. If you have seen the tiny girl that makes a lot of noise and alternates between being really passionate and almost looseing control, sucking fingers holding on tight, to very passive mode where it is just fu*k me as hard as you can and I will lie down and enjoy.

Good experience but a little expensive.

BJK

Hey BJK,

Really nice report!

Your negotiation skills and sense of security was good, and you were dead on in the "fee" for the driver, it should be included anyway!

Well, somehow some of the girls you mentioned they work part time it is true, but usually the part time girls are freelancers who work on their own, or through "introductions" from "friends". They don't usually work with drivers, pimps, mamasan, etc as they wouldn't get much profit from it. A hint to find out if they are really part time is to ask them for their cellphone number. If they don't, they aren't part time.

Sometimes if you find the real part times, they are office ladies in daytime, and night time sometimes they just want to have some side cash and fun (like taking her for dinner, pub) and the cost is an amazingly NT2,000.00 only! Problem is, that they usually only speak chinese.

Amante

Amante,
You are right it is difficult to tell if she was really a part timer. Actually I asked for her phone number but she said she would give it next time. I tried to get her to tell me how much commission out of the $4K she had to give but she was reluctant to say.

I asked the man for her again last night but it seems she only works earlier during the week and not the week end. I will try again maybe tonight.

I did ask him to send up another girl. This time I gave my room number to him as I was too tired to wait. I asked for similar type of girl and told him if she wasn't any good I would send her away and he was not to send me another. Therefore one chance to send the right one. Well he failed according to my criteria. A pleasant but plain Thai girl arrived at my door about 20 minutes later. My experience with full time Thai girls that go to another country to work is not fantastic. Better to have the Thai girl in Thailand. Also my experience in Hong Kong is typically I would pay a lot less for a Thai than a local (or even PRC) girl. So paying $4K was not on. I am sure she would be paid by the pimp a lot less that the Taiwan girl the other night. Anyway the girl comes into my room and then politely asks if she is OK. I ask a little about her and decide she is not my type and tell her to go. Without any fuss she goes on her way. Later I feel I should have given a small amount to her for her trouble as she was nice just not for me.

After that I decided to go to the "zone" for a few drinks and see what it is about. I was not impressed especially with the bars with the women trying to drag you in. I ended up in "My Place". It is an bar with a bit of an English Pub theme. The waitresses are very friendly and nice to talk to. Most are Filipino long term residence of Taiwan. I had about 6 drinks in there and the bill came to $1001. I don't know if the $1 was put on so I would be given a ton of change to tip with but I had a $1 coin in my pocket and did not tip any more than the bill.

Another time a pimp near to the hotel gave me his card. It is titled "Beauty Massage Centre" It is in English and Japanese offering outcall massage, and obviously a lot more. PM me in the next few days if you want the number. I did not ask the price as I was not interested but assume as he was on the street he would be competitive with the other "vendors"


BJK

BJK,

It seems you already a pro mongering in Taipei.

The Zone was a total disappointment right? I guess the only people who would go to the Zone are the people who are really drunk, or have some extra money they want to burn on Filipinas, or old ladies asking for Ladie's drink for an exorbitant price. I would call the Zone the Doom Zone.

Usually, if you could communicate up front to try out if she's also an part timer, is to assure her you won't call her on day time because of her privacy. Just ask her what's the best convenient way to contact her. This way if she's really a part timer, she will provide you with info how to contact her.

Sending you a Thai girl was a definitely No-No for the price they asked, and since you are in Taiwan, you should go for Taiwanese flavor anyway!

Hope to hear more of your reports!

Amante

I know I should have read the forum first, but I didn't. So my first time in Taiwan, back in december, I ended up in the Zone, spending too much money for too little fun. But hey... I met a nice girl in the K9 pub, actually took her out a couple of times, but I got tired of the mamasan calling her after 2 hours, to come back. I won't tell what I spend there in one week. I'm afraid you guys won't stop laughing :-)

So just one advise: Stay away from the Zone. The only good thing there is Malibu West if you want to have some western food and play some pool.

So when I came back early February, and I knew I had to stay for a long time, I decided to handle it differently.

First of all, I would definitely recommend Carnegie's on any given wednesday. Packed with girls (because of the free champagne). Some pro's, so just ignore them. Some are unaproachable, but that would be obvious to any guy after being inside for an hour or so. That leaves the girls that are actually looking for a good time. And there are quite some left. But then again, also a lot of guys. Luckily, most men just hang around the girls without taking action, waiting until the girls talk to them - which they won't because they're asian. In fact - if she starts talking it's probably a pro.

But anyway, I had some nice adventures there. With nice girls, in to some good lovin' that spend all night and leave their number.

I also checked out the massage ads. Just yesterday I decided to call one. In the middle of the day (didn't feel like working). I went to 73, Fushing S. Actually, she was not there but she picked me up in front of that address to then go to her apartment.
It started off with a regular massage, which was in fact what I wanted. But ended up with the well known special service :-)
And I must say; she was pretty good! Kissing, cuttling afterwards, the whole thing. She gave me her number. And all of that for just NT$3000. She asked 5, I offered 3 and she was ok with it... So that place is definitely worth checking out. Her name is Jessica, 30 yo.

But actually, I found my own Taiwanese girl a couple of weeks ago. And that is very very nice. Just can't get enough of her. Unfortunately she still lives at home (23) but that's the only disadvantage.

Good luck to all of you out there :-)

D

I'll be in Taipei at the Grand Hyatt next week for most of the week. Anyone who wants to get together and partake of the best Taipei has to offer, let me know and I'd be happy to buy the first round.

Captain America,

As long as you are in the Hyatt, check out their Ziga Zaga on thursday night. A bit expensive, some working girls, but you should at least have been there once.

D

A few more experiences in Taipei

There are so many pimps around the hotel (Regent) it is getting a little annoying even for me. I am sure someone will complain and they will get moved on.

I met Fat Bob as his name card calls him just near the edge of the driveway. He introduced himself with good spoken English and started his spiel. He started with the usual promises of young beautiful girls that he could send to me. He stated that he was now 65 and as such had not interest in trouble so he would offer his honest services at a reasonable price and not rip anyone off. It was up to me to accept or reject the girl without condition. He said had been a hustler for 12 years and during that time had experience to know what a businessman might need. He explained how much of his business was repeats and referrals etc. I asked him how much and what they were like. He said he had two types; the first and more common could not speak English and were $3000. For the English-speaking girl it would be $500 more. He explained that only educated Taiwanese could speak English thus asked for more money. If fact he said that he himself had spent 3 hard years learning English so he could serve better his high quality business people like myself. He understood that the type of businessperson staying in the 5 star hotel did not want to have to talk in pidgin. He went on to describe the type of girl he thought I was after. He described it pretty well including that I don't always like big tits, and that he had a few girls suitable for me and why not try one tonight and if good I would be sure to try another.
Well it was an funny sales spiel and he could have well been selling high quality consumer goods the way he was describing. My experience has not always been great with any sales person who can talk the talk so I was a little cautious. However at $3000 it would be worth having a look even if despite the smooth pater I did not trust him.
All agreed on the deal and he says he will send a girl to my room shortly, and oh yeah there will be $100 for parking. Well the parking at the hotel is $100 so I agreed even though I hate this negotiating style of adding conditions at the end. My little head was ahead of me and did not think until later that there is no way the girl would be driving herself, a scooter maybe. OK, $100 so what!

The girl comes to the room reasonably to expectations and description. Slim, but with bigger boobs that I was imagining. She does not speak much English at all. all. Name is BoBo. Not sure where she is from. Half suspect that she is not Taiwanese. Later I had a girl from the same source who was Vietnamese call BiBi, so this girl might have been same.
We have a shower together and then to bed where she is very quick to get started. I worry she is being a little rushed. Anyway she does a good job in getting me hard and starts a pretty good BBBJ. Let me touch her everywhere but does not want DATY. Her pussy is very tight and we do it in numerous positions. She gets me off while sucking my nipple and squeezing my balls while I hump away. Over all a reasonable experience. I gave her the $3100 which she expressed disappointment at. I gave her a couple of hundred NT as she did try quiet hard but I normally tip only for exceptional circumstance. She was still disappointed so I asked using sigh language how much of the $3100 was hers. I first indicated 2/3 for her and then 1/2. She said not and showed that the boss got all and she only got tips. I laughed at this and indicated no way. She was most adamant. What an actress? or was it true? Perhaps she was still paying of the loan to get her to Taiwan. Anyway I gave her some excess HK dollars I had lying around and asked for her phone number saying she could have it all next time. She agreed and I got her number.
I did SMS her, the next day, which was Sunday and tried to call but her phone was off. If she was from offshore with some kind of contract it would have been difficult for her to meet outside in any case.

Next day I decide to get a massage before thinking of some more mongering. I found a genuine looking massage place that looked clean. I can't remember the address but it is a cross street and not far from Linden Rd something like Changchun Rd. It did not have a sauna or shower area, went into a room with a massage chair, the type that can move into a variety of positions including flat. It had a television to watch while being massaged. The massage was quite different to those in a Sauna in Hong Kong or elsewhere. It involved a lot of strengthen, also the girl applied a lot of hot towels, wrapping them around various areas while massaging elsewhere. I reckon she would have used at least 50 - 60 towels throughout the massage. The massage girl was thin as a rake but unbelievably strong. Overall it was a good massage but I prefer an oil massage on a proper massage table. I did think to ask the girl to my hotel after the massage but gave up after communications difficulties and the fact that she had not indicated much interest in me. Still I felt good and was ready for further action.

So back to the hotel and was accosted by a 60's woman in a fake fur jacket asking me the usual "want girl?" "young girl", "pretty girl". Anyway the price started at $4000 (I think they all must know me and no one asks for $5000 up front anymore). I negotiated down to $3000 and agreed to wait for girl outside. She said 10 minutes. I said I would go for a walk and come back. She wasn't to keen on me leaving and tried to follow. I told her again to stay where she was and I would come back. After walking around for 10 minutes I came back and still not girl. I waited for a few minutes and decided to go for another walk. The woman kept tailing me everywhere, a real nuisance. Finally I lost my cool and told her to go away until she had the girl or I would not go ahead with the deal. It is quite unpleasant so near to the hotel. I don't think anyone worries about such activities if they are discrete but when you are bumping into patrons of the 5 star hotel with pimps and mamasans in toe they might feel uncomfortable and complain. I waited elsewhere for 5 minutes or so and came back. There still was not a girl, so I went to the woman and told her to forget it. She said the girl had came and went and she would get her back. Again I said forget it and went into the hotel.

After resting in the lounge with a drink I decided to call Fat Bob and get him to send up a girl. He said he would try but as it was close to 11pm it might be difficult. I read that the hotel requires guests to sign in after 11. It does not say they are not allowed. Fat Bob later sent a Vietnamese girl that might not have all the right ID.
The girl arrives right on 11pm and announces herself as BiBi. She was not as slim as requested but still OK. She was young and turned out to be 21. She said she was from Vietnam I would say a 6.5 overall so really at the minimum range I would accept. Faced with the hassle of finding another girl I decided to accept.
I offered her to take a shower and expected that it might be together like the other girls so far. She went into the bathroom dressed and closed the door. Seemed she was taking a crap and was taking her time about it. I heard the shower start and after a short period of time knocked on the door. She was already out and had not had a full shower just used the hand shower. I had a quick shower myself and then into bed at which time it was over 10 minutes into the action time before anything had happened. Anyway to the action; she starts with an amazing nipple suck on me, which I enjoyed. However she did not position herself in a way that made it easy to touch her. I got her to do a BBBJ that she did with enthusiasm but not much skill. She was worried about me coming in her mouth and stopped often. She performed better after I indicated that I understood and would not come in her mouth. She had the least English of any girl I have met. Anyway then start on missionary fu*k which she is very tight and worried about pain. She settles down and is OK but I can smell her vagina a little which I take as a bad sign. I was wearing a rubber but did not think she was a clean as I would like and can not enjoy. I stop the fu*king and wash off in the bathroom. I go back for a BJ. This time I lay her down and fu*k her mouth. She takes it quite deeply and does not complain at all. I was enjoying but decided to move position. I bumped her neck in moving. I don't think I hurt her but she indicated her neck was sore. She then sits up holds her head tightly with her two hands and proceeds to give it a mighty twist sideways and upwards which is accompanied with an almighty crack. She then proceeds to do it again be in the opposite direction. I think I am going to have a girl in my hotel with a broken neck the sound is so bad. Anyway after the course of home chiropractory I went back to a BJ but had lost my interest and could not finish. I would say she was OK at BJ in that she took it deep and fast but seemed to have a hard mouth and did not feel fantastic. I asked her to stop and demonstrate some of her massage skills just as long it was not of the neck manipulation type. Was an OK massage and then her phone rang at 11:45 which was her minder asking her to finish. Mental note for next time: I will tell the pimp if he rings before the time is up I will only pay that proportion. Although I did not yet have the full hour promised I was bored with her and was happy to see her go. I gave her the money without tip and she left without complaint or asking for more.

Next time in Taipei I will try to access the FL scene. The pimps and mama's are ok as backup but not reliable. Advise allowing time for knocking back a girl if not suitable.

BJK

Hi,
To the guys that PM me and asked for phone numbers. I have left Taipei and packed the name cards away somewhere where the wife would not find them. Haha, I cannot find then either. Hope I do before she does and I will send you.

BJK

While off topic it might interest some wanting to look smart while mongering. I had some excellent shirts made at the Shangri-La tailor next to the Regent Hotel. 700NT for polycotton and 800NT for 100% cotton
BJK

Went to San Chung again. My regular girl was not around so I went to another provider which was more expensive $1500, but the girls were younger.

I'm am kinda of curious what others would think in terms of paying $1500 for short short time or get good consistent services for $3000k.

Has anyone gotten a girl in the city proper for $3000k through a manager but then later made deals directly with the girl?

Rip off experience from the Formosa Escort.

Formosa Escort ask people to pay a three days fee to get into their website... and then even if you cancelled the registration before the end of three days, your credit card is still get charged for the following month access fees, and their web admin people has never replied your Emails, when you are asking for their reply.

Exposing them here will prevent them from rip off more people. They are saying that the access to their website is the condition of getting their excort services.

Shitty taiwanese, making money the Chen Sui Bien way!

Hi, Adrenal:

How much time did you get for $1500 in San Chung (20 min.)? Could you telll us how to get San Chung by train/or bus from downtown, Taipei?

$3000-3500 will get you 45 min, a nicer gl, but it is always hard to make a deal directly. They work full time for a boss.

Only had time to get to one spot this week and ecided to make that JunhHua sauna. Service has been described many time in this foprum, so I won't repeat. Definitely would be worth to team up so one can enjoy the many other amenities oif the sauna without dying of boredom.

One note, the sauna is about 50 yards east of the crown plaza hotel, also known as the Rebar Crown Plaza. I asked for Holiday Inn, but that info seems to be outdated. Closest cross street is Gunagfu South.

BJK,

I think you got ripped off, in my opinion. I use a service provider that gets the girl to my place whenever I'm in Taipei discreetly with the option to reject, no questions asked. But be prepared to pay more if you want the real amateurs which has to be arranged in advance. I have met a bank officer, an attorney, a travel agent and even a dance teacher through this. And because I know her well, I get to run the field trial. Cost - anything from NTD 7000 - 8000. Its worth it though, and they do come back FOC sometimes.