Moscow

[QUOTE=Sex Wanderer]Thank you for your concern bro. Each day goes by but the heart is pumping very fast on the urge to see her.[/QUOTE]

"True Love" and pumping hearts have clouded many a man's good judgement. I'm all for that. But I hope eyes are also truly open as to the real nature of this relationship. I would take the comments by some of the experienced Moscow mongers to heart as well.

My 2 cents

AM

[QUOTE=Sex Wanderer]Thanks Alxxx,

Just to check, when I arrived in moscow can the taxi driver sent me to those places that you have mentioned? How much will it cost for me to hire a taxi for a day to search these 4 places?

Are all these places nearby to one another?

Also may I know what can I do with those tel no? Is it a direct tel to call the boss?[/QUOTE]No these places are not nearby each other. I don't know exact prices for taxi to get around all those places. You could negotiate with some private driver, but I'm not an expert in hiring drivers for that kind of thing. You could hire a taxi/car to go separately from one place to another

Those tel #'s are just numbers of regular market administration I guess. I found them online on some Russian websites. And I don't think you can call and ask them smthn like "I'd like to talk to the papa-san please"

But this whole idea seems quite weird for me too. Unless it's really a 'twisted joke' as Pizdyets said.

PIs idea seems to make sence.

[QUOTE=Sex Wanderer]

When I have found their liar you can leave and I will let the course take nature. But hmmm may I know the ambulance no just in case.

Also may I know what can I do with those tel no? Is it a direct tel to call the boss?[/QUOTE]What are you going to do with them? No, really! What EXACTLY are you planning to do?

P.S. WTF, for some reason my typings is Russian come out like question marks '?'

[QUOTE=Alxxx]No these places are not nearby each other. I don't know exact prices for taxi to get around all those places. You could negotiate with some private driver, but I'm not an expert in hiring drivers for that kind of thing. You could hire a taxi/car to go separately from one place to another

Those tel #'s are just numbers of regular market administration I guess. I found them online on some Russian websites. And I don't think you can call and ask them smthn like "I'd like to talk to the papa-san please"

But this whole idea seems quite weird for me too. Unless it's really a 'twisted joke' as Pizdyets said.

PIs idea seems to make sence.

What are you going to do with them? No, really! What EXACTLY are you planning to do?

P.S. WTF, for some reason my typings is Russian come out like question marks '?'[/QUOTE]Thanks for your help bro and at least I have some contact no to refer to. Hmm I need to plan this trip properly else I will be lost in the lonely planet and worst cant even speak russian language to get it out. So now I am searching for a local guide in the tourist section for personal guide tour service. Maybe they will charge cheaper compared to a PI and at least they know where the vietnamese community is.

Now I have 4 places to hunt and with a russian tour guide that can speak english and knows the place it will help me to narrow it down.

Some in these forum thinks that it will be a risk and a fool to be. I do think that I am still searching my own soul too whether I am really the fool, or got blinded by clouds.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]"True Love" and pumping hearts have clouded many a man's good judgement. I'm all for that. But I hope eyes are also truly open as to the real nature of this relationship. I would take the comments by some of the experienced Moscow mongers to heart as well.

My 2 cents

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks angus magee. I am still searching and if this relationship fails to open up. I might as well goes by to my own self >>> sex wanderer in the planet Earth again and not able to find the "True Love".

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]I'm not sure if this is some sort of twisted joke, or you're just an idiot. Maybe both.

But if you're adamant about this, I'd suggest hiring a private investigator before setting foot in Moscow. Have him do the leg work and see if there's even a chance of finding her. I'm guessing there are plenty of PIs in Moscow who are former KGB and/or police, and will be infinitely more productive than you could ever be.

I know what you're thinking, and no... I don't have any PI to suggest. Hit the local expat forums (redtape.ru and expat.ru) and ask if someone can suggest a reliable one. I did find this, however, doing a simple google search:

[url]http://www.articlesbase.com/infidelity-articles/choosing-a-russia-private-investigator-1962592.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for your information. Yes I do agree with you on hiring one but I am worry of the high charges involve. My budget is about $2000 US so I dont know if it is enough for a PI to find a vietnamese girl in the vietnamese community, get a photoshoot of the place with my girl in it and the full address of their liar. If they are able to meet my budget well hooorayyy it will be a great as I just need to take a cab and rush to that location.

Now searching all these PI as mentioned and asking them for their qoutation on my request.

Bear in mind we don't know the true reason why Sex Wanderer is seeking this girl. Maybe she ran from him or owes him etc. I see no reason to believe his motives and to help him.

And if he is for real, the following song lyrics may be applicable.

Gone Daddy Gone

Beautiful girl,
love the dress
high school smiles,
oh yes
where she is now I can only guess
Cause it's gone daddy gone,
your love is gone
Yeah it's gone daddy gone,
the love is gone
Yes gone daddy gone,
gone away, gone away.

[QUOTE=Sex Wanderer] My budget is about $2000 US [/QUOTE]Good! That should cover your plane ticket and visa.

How do you plan to pay for the other 10,000 USD???

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Good! That should cover your plane ticket and visa.

How do you plan to pay for the other 10,000 USD???[/QUOTE]

LOL :D

I guess Sex Wanderer has no idea how expensive Moscow can be, but I am curious to know how it ends....

[QUOTE=Sex Wanderer]Thanks for your information. Yes I do agree with you on hiring one but I am worry of the high charges involve. My budget is about $2000 US so I dont know if it is enough for a PI to find a vietnamese girl in the vietnamese community, get a photoshoot of the place with my girl in it and the full address of their liar. If they are able to meet my budget well hooorayyy it will be a great as I just need to take a cab and rush to that location.

Now searching all these PI as mentioned and asking them for their qoutation on my request.[/QUOTE]

2000 USD budget for Moscow? One night? :D

Yep moscow in incredibly expencive (or can be so)... It's difficult to find a decent hotel room (not in the centre) under 120 USD (100 €). A nice meal in a nice restaurant (for Russian not for oligarchs) is around 30-50 € of course you can go in a small café at the market in the outskirts of 8-10 USD.

Girls... Usually they start at 10.000 RUB for a nightover... then...

for 2000 USD I would go ti Pattya instead (you can but cheap flights)... cheap hotel, and cheap willing girls.

IT

[QUOTE=It Travel]2000 USD budget for Moscow? One night? :D

Yep moscow in incredibly expencive (or can be so)... It's difficult to find a decent hotel room (not in the centre) under 120 USD (100 €). A nice meal in a nice restaurant (for Russian not for oligarchs) is around 30-50 € of course you can go in a small café at the market in the outskirts of 8-10 USD.

Girls... Usually they start at 10.000 RUB for a nightover... then...

for 2000 USD I would go ti Pattya instead (you can but cheap flights)... cheap hotel, and cheap willing girls.

IT[/QUOTE]Wow I didn't know that its so expensive. For me I can stay in any cheap hotel.

Well bros I make some mistake and misunderstanding here. My $2000 USD refer to the PI fee that I am willing to pay for

1. He needs to find the girl I am looking for with pictures taken of her and where she stays.

2. The full address in Russian and translate in simple English so that when I reach the airport I will ask the taxi driver to take me there.

3. Err the PI must tell me if there is any Russian or vietnamese gangster and who and what I should look out for. Also I need the mamasam contact number so that I can act as a customer to call her mamasam seeking for the girl that I want.

Now still searching for pro PI that can meet this budget of $2000 USD. Any ISG bros in this forum use to be a PI?

I am bringing another travel budget of $2000 USD excluding my airticket which I have paid for using my credit card. So that should cover my lodging, taxi and to book my vietnamese girl for 3 days. My girl told me that the customers have to pay only 5000 rub to book them for overnight with only 3 shoots allow then the next day the vietnamese driver will come to pick them up.

Well these is my 1st nerve racking experience to enter into the Russian and vietnamese mafia network of providing young beautiful vietnamese girls to the vietnamese and Chinese communities in moscow.

Cross my fingers.

SW,

Masterful plan, brilliantly conceived, carefully thought-out, every detail thoroughly considered and accounted for.

I only have 1 question...

How will you get your girlfriend [b]out[/b] of the country? In order to get out of Russia, she must have a passport and in order to get into the U.S. she must have a visa.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Masterful plan, brilliantly conceived, carefully thought-out, every detail thoroughly considered and accounted for.

I only have 1 question...

How will you get your girlfriend [b]out[/b] of the country? In order to get out of Russia, she must have a passport and in order to get into the U.S. she must have a visa.[/QUOTE]

LOL.

Sounds like it's just a really expensive nookie run to me.

P.

I agree, it seems to be looking that way more and more.

SW,

If you want to go to Moscow to get laid, that's [b]OK[/b] We all understand. :)

It's really not necessary to make up a complicated story about the need to rescue the love-of-your-life-sold-into-sex-slavery.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]P.

I agree, it seems to be looking that way more and more.

SW,

If you want to go to Moscow to get laid, that's [b]OK[/b] We all understand. :)

It's really not necessary to make up a complicated story about the need to rescue the love-of-your-life-sold-into-sex-slavery.[/QUOTE]Hi stravinsky,

Thanks bro for the advice.

Well I am not telling a story here but real life issue and thats why I need all the expert advice from real people living in russia.

The passport is with the boss so I need just to bail her out. Only problem I face is that its their hideout. She will be following back with me to vietnam.

I have search the google map and managed to find their location. Only 3 places are nearby except for (100 Dmitrovskoe shosse (?, 100; tel: 483-1141). This location is a very long highway so I don't know where to look for. Its too far away from the moscow city rings.

The rest are all nearby and they have vietnamese marketplace in it.

41, Koptevskaya st. (?., 41; tel: 450-8759)

16 Shmitovskiy proezd (?, 16; tel: 256-2782)

5/20 Suchevsky val (?., 5,?. 20; tel: 973-0244)

I have printed all the maps and the trains available. Then I will be looking for a hotel near to the vietnamese market.

I am seeking all understanding that I need to find her else it will be a 1. 5years of hard banging savalery.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]...
How will you get your girlfriend [b]out[/b] of the country? ...[/QUOTE]Even more, how will you convince her to follow you?

So far as we know, she maybe is an independent pro or she has rich sponsor and no reasons for her to change her life.