Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2985895]So is this going to prevent Putin from starting the nuclear war? Or do you believe that Putin is ready to do the world in -- himself and Russia including?

Now don't be shy.[/QUOTE]Putin isn't interested in starting a nuclear war. But if Russia faces an existential threat, he would not hesitate to use a tactical nuke inside Ukraine. And the west won't strike back with a nuclear option if he did do that IMO. Ukraine isn't important enough for a USA president to risk losing Chicago or NYC or LA.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2986006]from the millions of Ukrainian refugees? [/QUOTE]Inzwischen sind noch 953 000 ukrainische FLüchtlinge in Polen gemeldet. In absoluten Zahlen ist Polen in der EU damit das zweitgrösste Aufnahmeland, hinter Deutschland mit 1,33 Millionen.

Easy to verify, in case of interest to provide reliable info.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2985839]You're being simplistic as always. Remind me what party just came second in Germany? What party got over 30% in France. What parties are ruling Hungary and Slovakia? Like I said before, fascism is not exactly an American invention; Europe has been flirting with fascism for at least 2 decades and your establishment politicians still have no idea what to do with it.

That said, Trump is very "special", I'll give you that.[/QUOTE]My meaning is Trump is playing robber. Sad for poor Ukraine. But many minerals are where Russians stay in Ukraine, when Ukraine was already robbed Crimea by Putin.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2986078]Putin isn't interested in starting a nuclear war.[/QUOTE]I agree. Now tell you BFF Tiny he has nothing to worry.

Here is the Zelensky creep, in the White House, being slapped down by both POTUS and VPOTUS. Zelensky is as much a bum as are his choirboys [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqOOOR7Kr-s[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jarango;2986313]Here is the Zelensky creep, in the White House, being slapped down by both POTUS and VPOTUS. Zelensky is as much a bum as are his choirboys [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqOOOR7Kr-s[/URL].[/QUOTE]Trump insults enough USA image since 2021 , he doesn t need Zelensky who is fully legal and supported about war to defend Ukraine, by Ukrainians, when Trump is only a robber, trying to fuck Ukrainians and make business with criminal who attacked, his friend Putin.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2986313]Here is the Zelensky creep, in the White House, being slapped down by both POTUS and VPOTUS. Zelensky is as much a bum as are his choirboys [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqOOOR7Kr-s[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is depressing. It looked like we were possibly on the cusp of a cease fire. J.D. Vance should have kept his fat mouth shut, and Trump should have put the full court press on Zelensky (and Putin) to settle this instead of giving up so quickly.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2986318]This is depressing. It looked like we were possibly on the cusp of a cease fire. J.D. Vance should have kept his fat mouth shut, and Trump should have put the full court press on Zelensky (and Putin) to settle this instead of giving up so quickly.[/QUOTE]Trump wants to fuck Zelensky and suck swallowing Putin. Zelensky is right to refuse and Ukrainians will support his decision, when USA never protected Ukraine.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2986318]This is depressing. It looked like we were possibly on the cusp of a cease fire. J.D. Vance should have kept his fat mouth shut, and Trump should have put the full court press on Zelensky (and Putin) to settle this instead of giving up so quickly.[/QUOTE]Nah, you need to watch the whole thing here: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_YtXWVfkJE[/URL].

There are clips not showing the whole thing.

Things were going well. I could see the goal of Trump was to inform but to present a united front that progress is being made, and things were going smoothly. A reporter asked Trump whose side he was on. Trump was honest. He said that Zelensky hated Biden and vice versa which is true. He then pivoted and said he was on the side of peace and therefore was aligned with peace and the world. All JD Vance did was blast the notion of war and say that all Biden was doing was talking tough when people were dying and advocated for diplomacy. It was not personal towards Zelensky at all.

Zelensky was upset that he was being criticized. You can see Zelensky's body language. At first, he is leaning in towards Vance. Then when Vance responds, Zelensky immediately folds his arms and closes him off. The body language alone told the story. What Zelnsky was doing was going over all the times Putin has broken prior agreements. It showed me that Zelensky was not serious about a cease fire.

Where Zelensky really lost it was he reminded me of a drunk asking for a handout who said, "Well, you may be feeling better now but just wait in the future, your will feel badly too and you will need a handout. " And Trump just destroyed Zelensky when he made that comment, and Vance ripped Zelensky then for a complete lack of gratitude.

If I were on the front lines in Ukraine, I would be furious to see Zelensky mocking diplomacy. They showed a Ukrainian reporter with her hand over her head hiding her embarrassment. I think Zelensky's performance will be received horribly in Ukraine. Lindsay Grahm was a big Zelensky supporter and he pulled the plug after Zelensky's performance.

Now I know why Trump was keeping Zelensky out of the negotiations and just dealing with Putin as Zelensky was not interested in a cease fire. IMO he is out of touch with the Ukrainian soldier and the American tax payer. Trump booted him to the curb and told him come back when you are really ready to make a deal, but Zelensky needs to understand that means weeks not forever.

Zelensky acted like a thin skinned dictator not getting his way. If he is not willing to negotiate then I think we need to make our aid contingent about Ukraine restoring elections, a free press, and restoring opposition parties. I really doubt that Zelensky is representing his country right now. He looks like he is out for himself.

How come this place hasn't blown up?

So you got to hand it to Trump and his dollar tree underling JD (I've always been puzzled by that unique American habit of initialising your name) - they really know how to let the other guy know his place. In life, one makes decisions which seem not significant at the time but end up being life changing. I feel sorry for Ukraine but they will be rueing the day they chose to get rid of their nuclear weapons. And all those states who decided to fuck the supposed world order and to enhance their defense capacity will know they made the right decisions.

Meanwhile those fuckwits European scumbags who thought if they licked the American boot the most it would elevate them to their rightful nirvana are now shitting their pants. Once Russia is done with Ukraine, they will go after Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. And then the Eastern Europeans will be next. Russia probably doesn't care about West Europeans, but will want them servile to them in the new world order. Europe's erstwhile leaders going into Iraq at the behest of the zionists and American evangelicals rightwingers in an unholy war against someone who had done nothing to them and which resulted in hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths has yielded what gratitude or quid pro quo from America? Fuck all. And you fucking Europeans deserve it. You Deserve to be treated like shit by America. At least those of you Europeans who remain non-contrite about your American lapdog engagement like the British who elevated Blair to Sir Blair.

Now these same Europeans are summoned to bow down to the American alter, and while simultaneously wriggling to their American overlords economic demands and threats they will need to muster the resources to combat the military threats from Russia, all the while trying to revive their moribund economies. Karma is a dog called Schadenfreude. Actually Karma isn't my ***** because I happen to have most of my assets in Europe. How do you phrase "taking pleasure in seeing you get your just desserts but simultaneously being fucked off at the impact it's going to have on you?" I'm sure the Germans have a word for it.

Welcome to the brave new world. America, Russia (with an economy the size of Italy) and China will rule the world, and Israel will continue to rule America. Meanwhile the Europeans will continue their precipitous decline into irrelevancy.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2986318]This is depressing. It looked like we were possibly on the cusp of a cease fire. J.D. Vance should have kept his fat mouth shut, and Trump should have put the full court press on Zelensky (and Putin) to settle this instead of giving up so quickly.[/QUOTE]'On February 27, expert-level Russian-US consultations between Director of the Foreign Ministry Department of North America Alexander Darchiev and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Sonata Coulter convened in Istanbul. The discussions centred on normalising the operation of diplomatic missions of both countries, building upon recent bilateral engagements at the highest and high levels.

In accordance with the instructions from the foreign policy leadership of both countries, the parties meticulously explored avenues to overcome numerous irritants inherited from previous US administrations. Joint measures were agreed upon to ensure the unfettered mutual financing of Russian and US diplomatic missions' operations and to establish appropriate conditions for diplomats to fulfil their official duties.

The consultations also addressed issues related to Russian diplomatic properties in the United States, with a particular focus on the restitution of six premises unlawfully seized between 2016 and 2018. The necessity of achieving tangible outcomes to foster conditions conducive to improving bilateral relations, in the interests of both nations, was underscored. In particular, the American side was encouraged to consider the restoration of direct air service between the two countries.

The discussions proceeded in a substantive and business-like manner, with both parties agreeing to continue dialogue through this channel. '.

The US can impose sanctions on the Ukrainian regime and start supplying the RF, right? At least there is a talk or resuming direct flights.

As for today's shit show we have a proverb that can be applied to the bastard wretched clown, roughly translated as followed: 'You have pooped your pants, now observe the shit flowing down'.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2986318]This is depressing. It looked like we were possibly on the cusp of a cease fire. J.D. Vance should have kept his fat mouth shut, and Trump should have put the full court press on Zelensky (and Putin) to settle this instead of giving up so quickly.[/QUOTE]I understand why propacondoms are saying what they're saying, but why grownups who watched this disaster can't wrap their minds around the fact that the whole spectacle had been carefully rehearsed and that Zelensky just walked into a well-planned ambush? It so easy.

There is simply no other explanation except Trump being a Russian asset.

None.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2986318]This is depressing. It looked like we were possibly on the cusp of a cease fire. J.D. Vance should have kept his fat mouth shut, and Trump should have put the full court press on Zelensky (and Putin) to settle this instead of giving up so quickly.[/QUOTE]Zelensky showed that in addition to being an asshole, ungrateful, disrespectful and corrupt, he also has a very low EQ.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2986388]Zelensky showed that in addition to being an asshole, ungrateful, disrespectful and corrupt, he also has a very low EQ.[/QUOTE]No, Zelensky showed he has balls to resist to robber, but small size, crazy shameful Trump who tries to fuck Ukraine. My big respect and support to Ukraine which support Zelensky about war and when he is legal according to Ukraine constitution. Ukrainians can be proud to resist to dictator Putin and so shameful Trump who just tries to rob them.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2986388]Zelensky showed that in addition to being an asshole, ungrateful, disrespectful and corrupt, he also has a very low EQ.[/QUOTE]The only thing Zelensky showed is that in addition to being a fearless leader, he can still remain composed while being subjected to intense, unexpected, unprovoked and unprecedented attack from two openly hostile world-class assholes--the attack No other head of state has ever been subjected to from any US presidents in modern American history, and perhaps ever.

P.S. What yours and another asshole's posts are showing about your own characters is irrelevant. You know what you are.