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[QUOTE=Goyave]Yes. I wrote it here a few days ago: [post]966968[/post][/QUOTE]
Sorry, but i've missed that post.. but then its confirmed and i guess this will spread fast among foreign turists and that the rest of the banks will stop charging the fee too.
[QUOTE=Junior]During my recent trip to Pattaya I had the distinct pleasure of spending 6 days and more importantly 6 nights with ms. Hom from Devilsden. Based on my previous experiences in Pattaya I concluded that the go-go girls were too much hit-and-miss, so I wanted a sure thing and booked a girl from DD fulltime every day.
Ms. Hom is highly recommended both as a temporary girlfriend and for short term liaisons. If you decide to go with her you must lick her ears as she is terribly ticklish and sensitive there.[/QUOTE]
Nice change of pace, she is one of the few girls there who offers everything on the menu and sounds like you took advantage of that.
[QUOTE=Yiddo]Goyave,
Where can one find those 'cheap brothels' you mention? Are they available to farangs? That girl DID look cute! How old is that picture? ...[/QUOTE]
I almost missed your post, Yiddo. You're not a senior member yet, so your reports are still delayed and can often appear at a later time between other reports written by senior members... and sometimes, senior members forget to check earlier posts from regular members that are actually displayed later in a thread.
I've found this girl not in Pattaya, but in a brothel located in Isan (Northeastern Thailand) a few months ago. Even a Farang can pay as low as 300 baht for a ST session on premises there. Service quality offered is often poor (not always though, but one must investigate a bit to find the real gems there), but the girls are usually younger and prettier than your average bar girl.
You can find Thai brothels (usually disguised as karaoke joints) in Pattaya too (for instance, near the junction of Theprassit Road and sois 8 & 10, or near the Esso gas station that is located not far from the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital on Sukhumvit road; beware though, it is not recommended for a newcomer to go in this area late at night), but I haven't checked them recently and it’s a bit dearer than in my favorite brothels in Isan. Farangs are usually admitted in the brothels and fake karaoke joints that I know, but it’s better to speak and understand at least a few basic Thai words and sentences): most of the pimps / papasans / mamasans will probably try to charge you (often twice) more than a local for the deed.
[QUOTE=Junior]During my recent trip to Pattaya I had the distinct pleasure of spending 6 days and more importantly 6 nights with ms. Hom from Devilsden. Based on my previous experiences in Pattaya I concluded that the go-go girls were too much hit-and-miss, so I wanted a sure thing and booked a girl from DD fulltime every day.
The first day I had two ladies, one of them Ms. Hom, pick me up at the airport and spend the night with me. I was immediately smithen with ms. Hom and asked her to stay with me for the remainder of my stay.
She is good fun, both in- and outside the bedroom. In bed she is very eager to oblige and performed very well. Very good oral skills – which I always appreciate – and as I discovered she is quite the squirter. On the first night she went for a moustache ride – well, she had an orgasm and I got wet all over. Never seen anything like that before.
We did have other ladies from DD join us on various occasions. There is just nothing like having a (temporary) girlfriend and then still being able to get a little extra, either on my own or with her.
Outside the bedroom she did take really good care of me, especially when I got in to trouble with some of the local food and had to spend a day in the hotel room. She liked to join me in another of my favorite hobbies, which is girlwatching at the various venues in town.
Ms. Hom is highly recommended both as a temporary girlfriend and for short term liaisons. If you decide to go with her you must lick her ears as she is terribly ticklish and sensitive there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Bookmarked!
I have just returned home from my eighth trip to LOS. The trip lasted 30 days. Here’s what happened. I am including costs for the benefit of those who don’t know what things cost, and ages for the curious. All ages were confirmed by ID card.
My plane landed a little early and I just made it onto the Bell bus to Pattaya (200 baht including minibus transfer to hotel from bus station). The bus was full this time so I was reminded this was high season (late November). I checked into Radi Mansions located between Soi Yume and Sukhumvit (450 for superior room) and got a nice welcome from the owner and his Thai wife. I had arranged to meet two ISG members and did so at Cats Corner bar on soi 14/15. The 19yo that I know at that bar was on her night off. I politely declined the mamasan’s offer of an alternative lady (the best way to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a girl is to take another from the same bar) and my ISG buddy and I toured around Happy Go-Go and Secrets before ending up in Windmill Go-go. I started to feel a little bushed so I proposed long-term to a dancer (25yo) in Windmill shortly after midnight (when the barfine drops from 1200 to 600). She wanted 2000, I counter-offered 1500 but she held out, saying she would stay until 9am. I agreed but the mamasan would not let her go yet saying she would have to stay another 30 minutes. I spoke to Bill (manager) and he let me take her out right away. We jumped on a motorbike taxi and sped off to Radis (120 for two pax). I was not expecting much from a go-go girl in the room but she was pretty good, BBBJ to get things moving on up and a very satisfying boom-boom, with condom of course. In the morning she was still in my arms at 9am and we eventually went off for breakfast of fried rice at one of the many local street food establishments (60 for two and as tasty as anything you can get in Pattaya).
That evening I returned to Cats Corner bar and met up with my 19yo. She was happy to see me so I paid her bar fine (300) and told her I would come back for her later. I met up with my ISG buddies and we visited Rolling Stone 7 (nice views but too loud to talk easily), Beach Go-go, Secrets and Windmill again. My dancer wanted me again but I had to decline of course. I took my 19yo to Kum Pun in soi 2 to enjoy the Thai music live band, she was good in the room and she has now learned some English as well as some ways to please the customer (see my previous report when I had her just after she arrived in town for the first time) but somehow I felt this was not going anywhere. I took her to a local E-saan food stall for breakfast which she really liked.
Next day I met up with my number 1 Thai girl (39yo). I have known this girl for 20 months now and I keep returning to her. I have spent a total of more than 60 days and nights with her (see previous reports). She used to work in a bar but now is freelance. I pay her 1500, no bar fine of course. She came to my hotel complete with bag because we had arranged to fly to Hat Yai the following day. She got a big welcome from the boss lady at Radis who likes her a lot. Of course boss lady knows not to let on that I bring other guests and the cleaning staff have been similarly instructed. As usual it was pure body chemistry excitement in the room with her, in fact more than ever. God she was hot. The next day the boss lady gave us a ride to the bus station (she would not accept payment) and we rode to Mochit bus station. We left our bag and walked around Chatuchak market for a while before taking a taxi to Don Muang airport. At Hat Yai we checked into the JB Hotel, a high standard business hotel (1250 inc breakfast). I noticed the lounge bar had a couple of nice looking hostesses. The next day we visited the big reclining Buddha and got blessed by the monk, later going to the municipal park where they had a big display of lanterns after nightfall.
After two nights in Hat Yai we took a bus to Songkhla (40 each). The bus was colourfully painted and had really loud falang music playing. Most of the other pax were muslim schoolgirls. Thai muslim girls are great, not at all shy, asking us endless questions, smiling hugely. We checked into the BP Samila hotel (1500 inc bf), a really swanky hotel right on the beach which is assaulted by relentless deafening waves. We walked around Songkhla a lot the next day. The day after we returned to Hat Yai and got on a minibus to Trang (200 each). I was really scared as the young driver drove so fast and tailgating so bad and in the wet weather. When we got to Trang I wasn’t sure whether to be grateful we were still alive or angry that he had tried to kill us. We checked into the Thumrin hotel (700 for superior room) which was a bit dusty and smelly. Next day we took a minibus to Had Yao and on by longtail boat to Ko Libong. We stayed at the Libong Beach hotel in a beachfront bungalow with no AC or hot water (800). This was the best place I stayed in this trip. The owners do a good job, it is not luxury but they are friendly, things are done well and prices are OK. It got so cold around 3am, we hugged each other for warmth till sunrise, and we loved it. We walked to a nearby fishing village which was really clean and well kept. It is muslim so there are no dogs which was nice. There was nowhere to eat in the village but there were some places nearer to the hotel.
I won’t go into details, suffice to say my girl was taking very, very good care of me in and out of the room, she has a slim body that I just adore and that seems to fit with mine to perfection. We were chatting away happily like before without any sign of getting bored with each other. However, she kept telling me she was stupid because she had recently had a French customer who was on his first trip to Thailand and who fell for her in a big way, promising her all sorts of wonderful things, marriage, life in France etc. She normally does not like French men as she considers them cheap charlies but this one had clearly been an exception and very generous. She kept telling me she left Franceman because she loved me and she was stupid for doing so. Eventually we had a discussion. I reminded her I had a wife back home, so marriage was not possible. She said she could be my mia noi. I asked her what this would involve. She told me I would need to buy a house for her and give her 30,000 per month, to be paid whether I was in LOS or not. She has a friend who lives in one of the country club secured ghettos on the fringes of Pattaya and there was a house for sale for 2.8 million near her friend’s. This friend (42yo) inherited her house when her falang husband died, and she has just remarried another Englishman who was on his first trip to LOS and fell for her big time. I agreed to look at this house but made no promises. It just so happened that I have a friend who has just split up with his mia noi after eight years and stood to lose his house as a result because he had put it in her name, so I was in no mood to take a similar risk.
All this mia noi pressure was getting to me a bit so after three nights on Libong, we returned to Trang and took the night sleeper train to Bangkok (2700 for first class). Then taxi to Pattaya (1000 after some haggling). We went to see the house and I met her friend’s new husband. The house was of no interest to me. The new husband was a nice guy but fresh from a nasty divorce and clearly with little idea of what he had gotten himself into, or about Thai girls in general. I told my girl I wanted a few days alone in Pattaya so we separated, this did not please her too much but she accepted it OK.
I went to Secrets and ended up barfining a 29yo who I took to Kum Pun. We had a ball dancing at Kum Pun and back in the room she was a real sex bomb, the first such experience I had had. However, it was a bit too much action for me and she smelt a bit fishy so after a bit of boomsing I withdrew gracefully without coming. In the morning she loved the E-saan food stall and I had to push her away to get some peace and quiet. That night I sought out a girl I knew at Rolling Stone 2 bar (33yo). I have known her for a year now (see previous reports). She is a real sweet girl but gradually getting hardened. She does not like to boom-boom but does good HJ and BBBJ but no CIM. We talk well together. She told me her daughter was sick and her bar had banned self-barfining by girls until the end of January. I ended up agreeing to barfine her for five nights so she could go see her daughter. I trusted her but went with her to the bus station to be sure she made the trip. This is the first time I have done a pure act of charity for a Thai girl. I don’t regret doing it but will do such things sparingly.
Next day I was back with my no.1 girl. We took a taxi to Rayong (1000) where we stayed in an OK hotel just off Sukhumvit (220). Next day we took a private songthaew (200) to Hat Mae Ramphung beach where we checked in to the Nice Beach hotel. A massive sea view executive room cost 1000 per night inc bf. This beach is mostly for Thais with a few falang. It gets busy at the weekends then quiet in the week, even in high season. There are plentiful deck chairs and restaurants on the beach. I spoke to my girl. I told her I was not interested in buying a house in Pattaya. I said I might one day buy a house somewhere else in Thailand but I would take a mortgage or lease on it so even though it was in her name she would not be able to sell it without my consent. I also asked her not to complain when I had a couple of nights alone in Pattaya as I was paying so I was the boss and I could say when she came and when she went. This caused a bit of a bad mood for one afternoon but she was OK after that.
After four days we caught the minibus from Ban Phe to Pattaya (200 each, go up the side street next to the 7-11 opposite the Samed pier, ignore the taxi touts who will charge you 50 baht per person just to show you the place). Again I told her I wanted a couple of days alone in Pattaya. Of course I tell her I do not go with other girls, just looking I say. I went with my Secrets girl again because she was so hot for me when I walked into the bar. Basically the same thing happened again in the room with her. She started sending me frequent texts which I ignored but I go and see her in the bar when I can. No more barfining for her though.
When I met up again with my no.1, she got into quite a bad mood so I told her to cut it out. She persisted so I told her to go home. She would not so I went to get security. Before I got to the door, she grabbed me, told me she was sorry etc. She was absolutely perfect from that moment onwards for the next five days until I left to go home.
One thing surprised me about this trip. My feelings for the various girls were so volatile and impetuous. One minute I would feel a girl was just great and I wanted to be with her forever, and the next I couldn’t care if I never saw her again, and vice versa. I return in ten weeks.
Amusing video seems to be up on most of the bittorrent sites. Entitled ‘Old Guy Pattaya Threesome’, from the look of the long white hair and beer gut (and that’s just the girls:)), it might be better named ‘Santa Claus does two of the skankiest grannies on Beach Road’!
Some brave or foolhardy mongers around. Wonder if he is a member of ISG?
[QUOTE=Joe Cose]I have just returned home from my eighth trip to LOS. The trip lasted 30 days. Here’s what happened.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, lots of nice details to learn from :-)
I have just returned from a weekend in Pattaya. I was tired and taking it easy.
I looked in at X-Zone gogo in soi 16, right at the end of Walking Street. The
first local drink is always two for one. It's one of the sleaziest gogos I know, but surprizingly also quite easy-going. It's a mixed bag of girls, but there are absolutely some cuties.
I strolled Soi 6 where I said hello to two girls I've made friends with, but no longer feel like going with, one at each end of the street. I usually buy them a drink or two if I need some time to relax, and I always wish I didn't just know them in the bar. This time I wanted to take an unlikely little waif longtime, as I had taken her ST before, and had good memories, and wanted to go eat, see a movie, whatever. This hit a snag, as she kept repeating she was "naklua nit noy" (a little bit afraid). I asked why, and she said that she had gone with a customer before, and he was "saDIT" (sadist). Makes me sad and angry. She's a gentle sweet girl. After ST, she said she would go with me the next night because she trusts me (for 2000! for a soi 6 girl!), but in the end she didn't show up, in spite of the waiting 2000. Maybe her nerve failed her. I hope the saDIT guy loses his temper with a couple of bouncers soon ..
Anyway, moved on to a lovely beer bar girl (300 barfine, she asked for 1000 LT and I gave her 1300), soft and earnest, pure Thai smile that caught me the first time I saw her (which wasn't in her bar, as it happens). You know that smile, it's a moment out of time. She's new in the bar, looks out of place there and doesn't get customers. Late 20's, unshaven legs (though by now with a nose stud (still tender), curled hair and trimmed bush, none of which are improvements, sadly). Anyone looking for a mia noi to take care of them in their old age, PM me for details ;-) I love to chat with her and hug her to sleep, but she gets more horny about me (wet!) than I do about her.
[QUOTE=Joe Cose]One thing surprised me about this trip. My feelings for the various girls were so volatile and impetuous. One minute I would feel a girl was just great and I wanted to be with her forever, and the next I couldn’t care if I never saw her again, and vice versa.[/QUOTE]
I can understand this. It must be much worse for the girls. Take care.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]
The fact is, people who can't handle themselves and don't know what they are doing are the ones who get victimized. [/QUOTE]
There are a lot of those types flocking to pattaya nowdays. The instances of crime will continue as long as the numbers keep rolling in.
Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya
Arranged for Queen Vic's airport transfer. I was getting off of a long four-day five-flight jaunt across the Pacific and SEA, arriving late at Suvarnabhumi and didn't want to have to think about or jockey for a taxi. The driver met me in the arrivals hall and the comfy van allowed for a nice stretch and nap on the way to Pattaya. The Queen Vic on soi 6 is a basic Inn. You'll get your room, shower, TV and safe. All is clean but at 600B per night, you get what you pay for. Admittedly, they do have more expensive/nicer rooms but while in Pattaya, I didn't want to spend too much time in the room. The view of the soi 6 ST bars from the room is priceless.
High season Pattaya is dreadful. Maybe it was the combination of the tourists, from every freaking corner of the world, mixed with the tired exapts? I think I prefer the low season!
Spent good times in my favorite gogos, Lollipop and its sister club, Baccara. The girls there continue to be playful and fun. Two STs on two different nights each wanted 1500 but settled for 1000. I also went back to an old favorite, Club Beosche, a little further in on Walking Street. The Jacuzzi shows were still top-notch but the club was too packed for comfort each night.
Did rent a motorbike for a couple of days (200B per day), so was able to get about and explore the further reaches of Pattaya and Jomtien. Recommend to those who wish to get away from the routines of Beach/Second roads.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Of course, shit can happen, but the news media only report the worst stories and dramatic events. And in probably more than 99% of encounters with freelancers, there is nothing worth reporting for the press.
We often don't know all the details of the story when shit happens, but most of the time (of course, not always), it could have been avoided provided that the punter has not acted foolishly. Common sense is your best protection, not a barfine.[/QUOTE]Agreed on in full. Outside of the rare occurrence, I stopped paying barfines a long time ago. There is just too much talent and too much fun elsewhere to be bothered, and until that changes, I won't. I also have never been ripped off let alone rarely ever had an unpleasant experience. I think the girls know how to suss up a guy pretty fast, and if they know you live here or are spending significant time here, know your way around, know the language, or whatever you give off that lets each other know where you stand, then I'd say the odds have been greatly reduced. Not that you should leave a bag of money on the table or give your newfound dream date your room keys, but I think freelancers get a pretty unfair rap. It's like being told that with gogo girls you get a better body and better bang for the buck. I picked up two gogo dancers last week, and guess what, both of them had recently stopped work because they didn't like listening to the mamasan, dancing, or being committed to certain hours and had taken to freelancing. There are bad apples anywhere you look, so as a previous poster said, watch your alcohol intake and trust your instincts.
Anyone know if this place is still operating. I have only read about it on the internet and am going to LOS soon and it sounds interesting. Any replies appreciated.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Amusing video seems to be up on most of the bittorrent sites. Entitled 'Old Guy Pattaya Threesome', from the look of the long white hair and beer gut (and that's just the girls.), it might be better named 'Santa Claus does two of the skankiest grannies on Beach Road'!
Some brave or foolhardy mongers around. Wonder if he is a member of ISG?[/QUOTE]Wow CS. How much did you charge for you to take those pics?
[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]Anyone know if this place is still operating. I have only read about it on the internet and am going to LOS soon and it sounds interesting. Any replies appreciated.[/QUOTE]
The original Black Pearl located out on Siam Country Rd. has been closed for sometime. The second one opened is still in operation and is out towards the one million year old park. When you head out from Sukhumvit along a road called Chappowitti ( mispelling ) you will continue on this road for sometime. Once you go over the new overpass ( which you can see the new freeway to Bangkok ) you will be getting close. On the right you will see a 7/11 with a local market next to it. Go pass that and there is another 7/11 on the left.. don't make that left to the Park.. instead continue straight for another 100 yards and you will see this shack on the right with a Cannon in the front.
Thats it! LBM
Well, I'm very disappointed. Yes, there's girls everywhere, and most any can be had short time. But what makes Thailand stand out (compared to FKK clubs or whoring generally) is long time. But I'm finding that the ones available to me long time are not ones I'd want to spend much time with.
This is probably due to me being overweight, falang, and nearing 50, and there seems to be 'a policy' of young, pretty girls going with young pretty guys. Or am I missing something crucial here? At least this is holding true on Soi 6 and the better gogo's-almost every girl will go with me short time, but virtually none long time-none of the pretty ones, I mean. Just a couple of hours ago a cutie agreed to go LT w/me, when we got in the room she pretended to be tired and said we'd do boom boom in the AM. I immediately walked her back to the Soi 6 club and got my bar fine back (which I was willing to sacrifice, actually, and lucky to have it back).
Now, I'm not especially ugly, just an average american 40 something, overweight, but over and over again, I'm refused LT.
I much preferred the low season, when there were fewer tourists and I had better luck LT (although back then too I got a lot of refusals for LT).
If anyone has any advice about this let me know. I'm not having a good time here at all, and if it were economically feasiable, I'd fly out of Thailand pronto.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]The original Black Pearl located out on Siam Country Road. Has been closed for sometime. LBM[/QUOTE]This place has re opened, with a new Falang owner, and has changed its name.
Its now called Brasilia.
The place has been refurbished, but still lacks 'atmosphere'.
A few nice bits of eye candy, and has now got ST rooms on site.
300 BF + 700 ST