Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=ParkVille;2046035]Barfining from Soi Cowboy is certainly hit or miss (I guess if you say "hit and miss" it makes it sound like there is a 0% of success). Most girls are essentially clock watchers, as they are in a hurry to get the deed done at the ST room and head back to the money making machine, in my experience. Especially with early closures, they are not forced to head back sooner. In general, I only BF from there as a last resort kind of thing. Say, it's nighttime and I need to bust a nut. So, unless you can get a report about which girls provide decent service and which are rushy and too focused on work, then it is pointless. I think we all need to start posting reviews of the girls we see and stop hording the good performers to our selves (I'm partially guilty of this! That way, if we reward the good performers, they'll get picked more and be rewarded for doing a good job.[/QUOTE]Like someone said what my recommendation could be another may hate.

I have learnt a lot from this site. Prefer MPies never picked up a freelancer leave alone girls from clubs.

My trips to Soi Cowboy have been pure entertainment and drinking and meeting up with buddies.

My last trip to Soi Cowboy my friend couldn't make it. I was at Suzie Wongs hanging around wasting money buying lady drinks, and at 1 am just as I was about to leave a bloody cute girl early 30s walked in and didn't ask for a drink, in her sundress just sat and laughed and danced on my lap.

She wasn't a dancer nor did she look like any of the mamasans walking around like bouncers.

She was drunk and I was high. My mind was racing as she suddenly decided to leave and go to another dude sitting nearby. I just loved her sparkly eyes. So what I have never done before bar fined her, the mamasan said NO take number girl.

I said forget it, she said let me ask her. I waited, mamasan said okay but will be 4 k LT.

Had the most sensuous time with her.

Next morning I looked at her wondering how you wake up with someone that alcohol makes them appear way prettier than they actually are.

She was gorgeous!

We stayed in bed till 11 and I had to get to a meeting so quickly got her to leave. The bell rang, she walked back in and wanted a quicky.

Anyhow whole day I couldn't get her out of my mind.

I was leaving the next day, and decided no way was I going back.

Had a average time at Mitu massage and a brilliant time at Kaslong.

Somehow I did step into Suzie at 1 pm was told she's not there.

I sat outside for a cold one. I was chatting with a mamasan and discussing my indianness informs me that eut was inside.

Now I am no way good looking, am 36 facial hair etc etc. All the things some sites say are a turn off for Thai girls.

Anyhow I went in, she was right there dancing in a lovely dress in some African and surprisingly sober.

She saw me and asked me to wait.

She comes to me and says let's go. I say not today. She says just pay 2 k for St.

I couldn't say no. I paid she collected her stuff, I hadn't eaten. She took me to a nice basement Thai place where I had the yummiest rice and some pork dish.

Went to the hotel. Paid her 2 k. Told her she can leave when she wants to. I was in no mood for sex and the 2 k really didn't matter.

We ended up chatting, she turned out to have a college degree, although English was very average but we ended up having fun.

She infact asked me if she can stay, (hint sometimes a nice hotel helps), I said I leave in the Morning at 8 am. She said I leave with you.

We didn't sleep! I had read one shot or two is what girls draw a line at, this girl kept at it.

In fact she woke me up I actually felt like leaving all my leftover 3/4 k bhatt for her. I asked her to take money from my wallet.

She took a 500 note and said it's enough.

Its been a year. I have refused to see her. Will end up falling in love.

And have read too many reports from various forums to walk down that path.

Those 2 nights are my happy memories but I prefer to have them as a memory than pursue it.

[QUOTE=Dangit;2046156]Why I am writing this is from an experience I had at Crazy Horse. They refused admission, my drunk friend even flashed a bundle of 1 k notes. They just said don't need your money.
[/QUOTE]That can happen to everyone of us. Just don't care, just go on.

Guys from Sweden in their 50's, who looks good for their age, have the highest reputation. All others are below that.

BTW: With high reputation Thai girls mean easy to manage as husbands. Maybe not the title everyone wants to win.

[QUOTE=Dangit;2046156]Hi,

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And due to their behavior a lot of us suffer and will continue to do so, but not all indians are the same just like not all Muslims are terrorists.

Why I am writing this is from an experience I had at Crazy Horse. They refused admission, my drunk friend even flashed a bundle of 1 k notes. They just said don't need your money.

So I guess the reputation is here to stay.[/QUOTE]Or your government could be pro-active in trying to fix the problem like the Chinese government was. When the Chinese middle class started to get the means to travel more, the Chinese government started a country wide education program to inform their citizens how to behave when in another country. Your government definitely needs to do the same.

In saying the above, I fully acknowledge that a huge number of my countrymen (Australian) could do with similar training before they are even issued with a passport!

[QUOTE=Dangit;2046156]
1. Thailand in India has a really nasty reputation.

I visit for work and colleagues and family have their eyebrows raised everyone I mention the country's name.

But to majority of Indian visitors they come for only one purpose. And they will bargain, try and get "value for their money" another reason is for them a bhat is double their value of rupee unlike our $ earning friends.

And due to their behavior a lot of us suffer and will continue to do so, but not all indians are the same just like not all Muslims are terrorists.

Why I am writing this is from an experience I had at Crazy Horse. They refused admission, my drunk friend even flashed a bundle of 1 k notes. They just said don't need your money.

So I guess the reputation is here to stay.[/QUOTE]I guess the India Thailand feeling is mutual disdain. Most Thai people are somewhat racist. This means they can evaluate an Indian guy purely by his look and country rather than the individual. Fortunately some Thais know there is a big difference from one person to another. There are classy Indians.

I have asked at Crazy House why Indians are not allowed. It is not just fear of body odours. Plenty of Farang customers stink too and need a shower badly. I hate the smokers in there regardless of where they come from.

The main issues seem to be that Indians are considered to be well above average trouble makers and getting into disputes. The other main thing is the "value for money" part. Indians have the reputation of not wanting to part with any money. I. e. They want to be entertained by naked dancing girls essentially "for free" which means they are a waste of space. The reputation is that they spend very little on drinks, less than any other nationality, and do not buy drinks for the girls. I don't know if all these generalisations are totally true or not. Just what I hear. So actually Crazy House does not want any customers that will not spend reasonable amounts on their drinks and Girl drinks, but the door staff don't always know which customers are the stingiest. I am well known as a spender on girls so walk straight in with no issues. They know my face.

Bars like Billboard in Nana Plaza welcome Indians. I am slightly put off by the groups of Indians going there and partying in the bar. Those groups don't sit still and quietly like many other customers. Act like they have taken over the place for a private party. They tend to be jumping around, "high fiving" each other, and causing fears they will crash into me or knock my drinks over. Possibly I am over reacting, and a little phobic, but I like customers who sit quietly and enjoy and don't cause any disturbance to the other customers, not other customers who are almost in my face. Indians may well used to being in overcrowded places so cavorting around a bit too close to other customers may not seem strange to them at all. I am never keen on guys standing blocking the view of the stage, Indians or Farangs, unless there is truly no seating available. Japanese almost always sit very well behaved in comparison to Indians and Farangs. Hardly ever see Japanese making a nuisance other than smoking. Drunk Farangs can certainly be a nuisance, because they bump into things or crash into drinks tables.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2046351]Or your government could be pro-active in trying to fix the problem like the Chinese government was. When the Chinese middle class started to get the means to travel more, the Chinese government started a country wide education program to inform their citizens how to behave when in another country. Your government definitely needs to do the same.

In saying the above, I fully acknowledge that a huge number of my countrymen (Australian) could do with similar training before they are even issued with a passport![/QUOTE]By looking at the behaviour today of Chinese tourists, they don't seem to have learnt a lot.

[QUOTE=Michager;2046337]That can happen to everyone of us. Just don't care, just go on.[/QUOTE]I agree. BKK is so full of options that a few bad experiences can be expected by anyone's standards and ought to be inconsequential. Having said so, I would venture to say that good behavior, smart style and an ability & willingness to spend good amount of money would go a long way in making things easy for any guy regardless of nationality and even at establishments that may, otherwise, have a selective door policy.

Bro I am an Indian and travel frequently to Thailand been there 7-8 times past 3-4 years so avging out 2 trips an year.

I know some. Places where they are racists but it's Bec of us only and yeah we have it in our blood to bargain I will bargain but I will tip a girl for the performance and I would let them know about it.

I am not stingy it's just that if some1 can get a girl for 3 k why will I pay 5 k.

Last time I had a Turkish girl LT for 4 k she was amazing in bed totally worth it. I paid her 4. 5 k, she was more than happy unfortunately that was my last day or I would have taken her again.

Indians are mostly welcomed in shock 39 if I am not wrong and I used to love mix before they handed it for us. But I went in with my Singaporean friends.

You need to be presentable and not flashy. (We Indians have a habit of showing off you see).

Just a thumbs up for all Indians be classy and we might change our reputation in future maybe 4-5 years from now.

[QUOTE=Dangit;2046156]Hi,

Came across this site a year back and have been a lurker. Hate asking questions and enjoy reading FRs.

I do have my share of fun, not too frequent as my conscience gets in the way.

I am Indian and have seen how some of my country men behave.

It's a psychology thing.

1. Thailand in India has a really nasty reputation.

I visit for work and colleagues and family have their eyebrows raised everyone I mention the country's name.

2. Indians want virgins who can perform like working girls and by that I mean their wives or girlfriends. This is a fact.

3. Its sad they come from a society that gave the world tantra sex and kamasutra and yet the word sex is still not used publically.

I love Thailand. It's got something for everyone.

But to majority of Indian visitors they come for only one purpose. And they will bargain, try and get "value for their money" another reason is for them a bhat is double their value of rupee unlike our $ earning friends.

And due to their behavior a lot of us suffer and will continue to do so, but not all indians are the same just like not all Muslims are terrorists.

Why I am writing this is from an experience I had at Crazy Horse. They refused admission, my drunk friend even flashed a bundle of 1 k notes. They just said don't need your money.

So I guess the reputation is here to stay.[/QUOTE]

I hate to say it but you my friend have sumed us up perfectly.

Haha I was laughing when you said we make it a private party place, like we do in shock 39 and we hifi each other. Oh BTW we don't drink in clubs Bec we buy our fair share of liquor from the airport.

Usually Indians are there for 5 days max and mostly come in groups so 4-5 people with 5 bottles, it is enough. We drink 1 bottle a night and then hit the clubs, pubs or gogos.

It's the truth and I can't deny it.

But I like to go down another path. I have seen whenever I and my friends have opened a bottle in the club you get noticed and girls come to you buy a lady drink she will acknowledge you.

I bought a lady drink in Pattaya she was in aww as how can an Indian buy a lady a drink. We are that bad in reputation. I did bar fine the girl for St and she ended up staying LT Bec of my attitude towards her and I gave her a 500 B tip.

We were drinking and having fun the whole night.

Thanks to the forum making me learn quite a bit.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2046489]I guess the India Thailand feeling is mutual disdain. Most Thai people are somewhat racist. This means they can evaluate an Indian guy purely by his look and country rather than the individual. Fortunately some Thais know there is a big difference from one person to another. There are classy Indians.

I have asked at Crazy House why Indians are not allowed. It is not just fear of body odours. Plenty of Farang customers stink too and need a shower badly. I hate the smokers in there regardless of where they come from.

The main issues seem to be that Indians are considered to be well above average trouble makers and getting into disputes. The other main thing is the "value for money" part. Indians have the reputation of not wanting to part with any money. I. e. They want to be entertained by naked dancing girls essentially "for free" which means they are a waste of space. The reputation is that they spend very little on drinks, less than any other nationality, and do not buy drinks for the girls. I don't know if all these generalisations are totally true or not. Just what I hear. So actually Crazy House does not want any customers that will not spend reasonable amounts on their drinks and Girl drinks, but the door staff don't always know which customers are the stingiest. I am well known as a spender on girls so walk straight in with no issues. They know my face.

Bars like Billboard in Nana Plaza welcome Indians. I am slightly put off by the groups of Indians going there and partying in the bar. Those groups don't sit still and quietly like many other customers. Act like they have taken over the place for a private party. They tend to be jumping around, "high fiving" each other, and causing fears they will crash into me or knock my drinks over. Possibly I am over reacting, and a little phobic, but I like customers who sit quietly and enjoy and don't cause any disturbance to the other customers, not other customers who are almost in my face. Indians may well used to being in overcrowded places so cavorting around a bit too close to other customers may not seem strange to them at all. I am never keen on guys standing blocking the view of the stage, Indians or Farangs, unless there is truly no seating available. Japanese almost always sit very well behaved in comparison to Indians and Farangs. Hardly ever see Japanese making a nuisance other than smoking. Drunk Farangs can certainly be a nuisance, because they bump into things or crash into drinks tables.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2046608]By looking at the behaviour today of Chinese tourists, they don't seem to have learnt a lot.[/QUOTE]Can't argue with that. At least they are trying. .

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2046489]
The main issues seem to be that Indians are considered to be well above average trouble makers and getting into disputes. The other main thing is the "value for money" part. Indians have the reputation of not wanting to part with any money. I. e. They want to be entertained by naked dancing girls essentially "for free" which means they are a waste of space. The reputation is that they spend very little on drinks, less than any other nationality, and do not buy drinks for the girls. I don't know if all these generalisations are totally true or not. [/QUOTE]By definition, a "generalization" is not "totally" true. It's exactly as described. A generalization.

Is this particular generalization accurate? Hell, yes.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2046791]Can't argue with that. At least they are trying .[/QUOTE]Having worked in China a lot I was amazed at the ability of Chinese to ignore government propaganda. I asked my interpreter one day what was written on a banner that had been hanging by the entrance gate to the work site for many months. She had to stop and read it and then told me that it was "government propaganda". It was hilarious to watch Chinese TV before the 2008 Olympics when the government was running lot of commercials on how to properly behave. Some of it did help though.

I am aware dick scared girls seems an issue for some members so because I am big myself and come across this a lot may I offer some advice.

I would say first it is not the size (and size can be either length or girth or as in my case a combination of both) it is the fear of being hurt that is the problem for the girl. I would say the most important thing to do is to assure her that you will not do anything that causes her pain, in Thai there are a couple of ways of saying pain but the most common is the verb jep (pronounced chep).

I would tell her you will pay her anyway and a blow job or hand job is OK if "she cannot do", this usually relaxes her. I use DATY and clitoris stimulation to make sure she is as wet as she can be in the circumstances and use generous portions of KY. I take it very very slow and am extra gentle in penetration. I have sometimes taken a full 10 minutes to go in far as I can.

I am always amazed at how often the sex then becomes extremely intense with the girl "finishing "multiple times before I and as you know I take quite a while eventually pop myself.

I am not suggesting 5 inches will not get the job done but lots of women will tell you that for intense vaginal orgasms size does make a difference.

I know my regulars enjoy sex with me because of the "fit" and the physical chemistry between us and my number 1 believe it or not was even a little dick scared when we first met. LOL.

[QUOTE=Dangit;2046156] Crazy Horse. They refused admission, my drunk friend even flashed a bundle of 1 k notes. They just said don't need your money.
[/QUOTE]It's possible that you were not allowed entry not because you were Indian rather because your friend was drunk.

I am a sucker for middle aged French actresses like Juliette Binoche, Isabelle Huppert, Marion Cotillard, Isabelle Adjani to name just a few. I feel they combine a classic sense of style with an exquisite sensuality that comes from having lived an exciting life. I mention this in the context of a recent encounter.

I know and you all know what my specs and tastes are, slim and youngish with all original features in place especially the nose 555 LOL. I am nevertheless always on the lookout for something unusual and so wandered into the Chayo Phraya 2 soapie on Sri Ayudhya Rd a couple of days back, good move as I met up with an amazing lady in her mid 40's.

She was sitting in the 1800 Baht massage section, had on a black tailored two piece jacket and skirt, a short stylish hairstyle, legs crossed model like and was sitting alone towards the rear reading a book. I thought what the fuck is she doing here and quickly grabbed an attendant to call out her number. I paid the fee, waited for her to emerge and was a little surprised when she did, she was so petite, smaller than she looked in the fishbowl. I was so totally aroused as we walked hand in hand to the room.

See. P. 2 is old and way past its best but the rooms are still in good nick, good towels and linen and clean tubs. She was so laid back almost nonchalant as she prepared the bath. I lay on the bed finishing my Singha as she sat down beside me and we started chatting. Not great English but good enough to discover she was left high and dry by her cheating husband a year earlier after 10 years of marriage. She didn't work at see P often but sometimes got bored and or horny and usually needed the money.

She began to undress me slowly and when she first felt and then saw the hard on far from being dick scared she said wow I like. Her body was in great shape for a woman in her mid 40's and after the obligatory rub down in the tub which actually I don't actually like we had some really great sex.

I wanted more than I normally do with my picks (not my regulars mind you) that she have a really good time and as we both lay there exhausted I got the distinct impression that's exactly what she had.

I tipped her generously and as we said our goodbyes and gave each other a hug I thought this is different. LOL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2046975]It's possible that you were not allowed entry not because you were Indian rather because your friend was drunk.[/QUOTE]I am afraid that is not really correct. Some very drunk Farangs have been allowed in and were creating significant nuisance by standing up, moving around, crashing into tables and knocking drinks over. I would be happy if they were refused entry or asked to leave in a big hurry.

Perhaps drunks will be refused entry on occasion but not necessarily. It may not be noticed at first.

There was once an incident where a Japanese guy got upset, threw a glass, it missed the target and flew across the room smashing, and causing a cuts injury to at least one customer. Strangely the Japanese culprit was not evicted nor banned. That is a clear indicator of racial discrimination, is it not? If you are Japanese, you are royalty.