Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Beagleface]Well, I'm very disappointed. ....
This is probably due to me being overweight, falang, and nearing 50.......

Now, I'm not especially ugly, just an average american 40 something, overweight, but over and over again, I'm refused LT.

If anyone has any advice about this let me know. I'm not having a good time here at all, and if it were economically feasiable, I'd fly out of Thailand pronto.[/QUOTE]

Here's my advice. Lose weight.

I am 65, was overweight, diabetic and had a heart attack. Fortunately it was a mild one, I recovered, started exercising, lost 40 lbs and I don't get turned down as often anymore. I don't advise having the heart attack first.

[QUOTE=Beagleface]I much preferred the low season, when there were fewer tourists and I had better luck LT (although back then too I got a lot of refusals for LT).

If anyone has any advice about this let me know. I'm not having a good time here at all, and if it were economically feasiable, I'd fly out of Thailand pronto.[/QUOTE]

Has nothing to do with age or looks or weight. If you got the baht anything can be had. Sounds like you are picking the top of the crop only maybe and many have local BF's. All the single girls I know from Pattaya are at home. The ones with local BF's, BF's or sponsors are still in Pattaya for New Year. Many of the single ones THAT I KNOW went home.

Could be that or that could be part of the reason. But I don't know. I doubt it is your weight. I like BigFoot16 lost weight, I lost 100 lbs but even I got laid all the time when I was at that level.

I will assume you shower regularly and you don't live on the street :D

[QUOTE=Bigfoot16]Here's my advice. Lose weight.

I am 65, was overweight, diabetic and had a heart attack. Fortunately it was a mild one, I recovered, started exercising, lost 40 lbs and I don't get turned down as often anymore. I don't advise having the heart attack first.[/QUOTE]that is excellent advice. I ride the weightloss/gain rollercoaster-have lost 70 lbs, then put back on 80, recently lost 40, put back on 30, etc. I think it is weight-many girls just don't like 'papooey' or however they spell it. Fat. Ah to be young and thin all over again. This would be paradise then.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Has nothing to do with age or looks or weight. If you got the baht anything can be had. Sounds like you are picking the top of the crop only maybe and many have local BF's. All the single girls I know from Pattaya are at home. The ones with local BF's, BF's or sponsors are still in Pattaya for New Year. Many of the single ones THAT I KNOW went home.

Could be that or that could be part of the reason. But I don't know. I doubt it is your weight. I like BigFoot16 lost weight, I lost 100 lbs but even I got laid all the time when I was at that level.

I will assume you shower regularly and you don't live on the street.[/QUOTE]I go for top of the crop, yes. I got spoiled by the FKK clubs, where supermodels are not uncommon, and very pretty girls everywhere. Looks like there are fewer girls actually than in low season, definitely along beach road, there's maybe 1/10th as many SW as before.

I do shower, don't look like I sleep on the streets, but since I do walk all over Pattaya, I probably do start to look a little dissheveled and sweaty, but I do jump into the shower multiple times/day.

Also, on the falang issue-those 2 clubs, Superbaby and its sister club seem to really cater to Asians. I'm usually ignored entirely at these 2 clubs, other nite sat next to Asian guy and one after the other the dancers motioned to the upstairs rooms to the guy, they wanted him to take them there, but at me they would not even glance.

Also, it isn't about getting laid. That is easy, and I've bedded down already some really nice girls, one extremely pretty, movie star type. It's about the LT rejections and the number of them-although like I said, this is virtually always from the top of the crop.

[QUOTE=Beagleface]... But I'm finding that the ones available to me long time are not ones I'd want to spend much time with...
... I much preferred the low season, when there were fewer tourists and I had better luck LT (although back then too I got a lot of refusals for LT)...[/QUOTE]

I suspect that it's (at least partly) because it is the high season now and many girls would rather have several (more than 2) ST customers than only one LT session with one guy. It's easier for them to do so when more tourists are in town, especially for the prettiest girls. Of course, as mentioned before, some girls don't do LT at all for several reasons, one of them being the existence of a Thai boyfriend wanting them at home during the night.

I find that at least in the gogos , its harder to get the top girls to agree to long time up front if they dont know you. Obviously, "this is Tland" so the reasons are numerous and have been mentioned. Having a good attitude and being playful goes a long way IMO, and is more important than good looks.

If I take a stunner from a gogo, usually going somewhere after for a drinkie and a little dancing/partying seems to work well. Alot of the top gogo girls like to party w/friends etc, esp in Pattaya.

Maybe try the beer bars? Should have NO problem with LT there, based on experience. ;)

[QUOTE=Beagleface]Well, I'm very disappointed. Yes, there's girls everywhere, and most any can be had short time. But what makes Thailand stand out (compared to FKK clubs or whoring generally) is long time. But I'm finding that the ones available to me long time are not ones I'd want to spend much time with.

This is probably due to me being overweight, falang, and nearing 50, and there seems to be 'a policy' of young, pretty girls going with young pretty guys. Or am I missing something crucial here? At least this is holding true on Soi 6 and the better gogo's-almost every girl will go with me short time, but virtually none long time-none of the pretty ones, I mean. Just a couple of hours ago a cutie agreed to go LT w/me, when we got in the room she pretended to be tired and said we'd do boom boom in the AM. I immediately walked her back to the Soi 6 club and got my bar fine back (which I was willing to sacrifice, actually, and lucky to have it back).

Now, I'm not especially ugly, just an average american 40 something, overweight, but over and over again, I'm refused LT.

I much preferred the low season, when there were fewer tourists and I had better luck LT (although back then too I got a lot of refusals for LT).

If anyone has any advice about this let me know. I'm not having a good time here at all, and if it were economically feasiable, I'd fly out of Thailand pronto.[/QUOTE]

This was my first trip to Pattaya or Asia for that matter. Did read alot on this site before going and trying to make this a perfect week.

I understand now afterwards that one week is not enough time to explore even half of this place, but I did have a fun and interesting week.

I stayed at Citin Loft. [url]www.Citinloftpattaya.com[/url]

New and nice place, but location is about 200 meters of 2. Street, and the backstreets are not the nicest. But for me it was no problem.

I had a huge appartment, small kitchen, huge cooler, GREAT air con, nice balcony with limited view. Breakfast was really really nice, even if I only got to try it 2 times.

When checking in I recieved 2 breakfast tickets pr day, so a joiner would have breakfast as well.

The hotel is in my eyes very joiner friendly and my first two days I had booked girls on the phone and they came straight to my room with no problem.

The hotel have a pool, but being placed in front of the hotel close to the bumpy back street, I would say its pretty much useless.

I arrived late on the first evening, so I had booked with Kiki Kinky up front agreeing that she came to Pattaya and stay night with me. She is a really great girl, speaking almost fluent english. She has big boobs and they had some problems with gravity.

[url]http://kinkykiki.rare-companion.com/[/url]

She is expensive compared to bar girls, but she was great fun, enjoying being humiliated, loving anal and being forced.

I gladly recommend her if you are not on a budget.

Second day I booked a night with Ning from Devilsdenpattaya. Com. She is 31, firm body but again some gravity problems even with small tits. She must be the icon for PSE. It took her 2 minutes after arriving before she emptied her bag on my bed with around 10 dildos in all shapes and sizes and then went down on me.

She speak ok english and she does it all! Crazy, anal loving and happy girl, great combination.

I recommend her as well, but again a night with her is "expensive"

The rest of the week I spent in beer bars, being with 2 girls a day. I had a girl from [url]www.ziggys-bar.com[/url] every day because it was good music and no stress or pushy girls!

Its located on 2nd Street in the northern end. Recommended.

I always paid 1000 for ST and was not really interested in LT.

My conclusion:

Pattaya is a great place! The beaches is more than ok for getting some sun and drink cold beer. Koh Larn is just 10 minutes away with boat and there you have great beaches and clear water.

All girls I spent time with were smiling and giving great service!

One negative thing about the trip: it was difficult to find girls who could say more than"you sexy man" in english. I know that long discussions in english is not the reason why going to Pattaya, but if anyone can recommend girls who speak some english, that would be great.

I am soon going back to Pattaya and I hope to get some answer.

Question:

1. When taking a girl for ST, and after 2-3 hours she asks if its ok for her to stay the night. Does this mean anything? Shall I pay extra for this? (happened to me 3 nights.)

2. What is the procedure to have a girl for lets say 3-4 days straight? (Thinking about barfine and payment)

3. Is it possible to find 4-5 stars hotel where I can pay cash and don't show any ID/Passport?

Next time I am going I will try to hook up with some of you guys to have a "partner" too make it all more fun.

Happy New Year to you all!

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[QUOTE=Nocal]I find that at least in the gogos , its harder to get the top girls to agree to long time up front if they dont know you. Obviously, "this is Tland" so the reasons are numerous and have been mentioned. Having a good attitude and being playful goes a long way IMO, and is more important than good looks.

If I take a stunner from a gogo, usually going somewhere after for a drinkie and a little dancing/partying seems to work well. Alot of the top gogo girls like to party w/friends etc, esp in Pattaya.

Maybe try the beer bars? Should have NO problem with LT there, based on experience. ;)[/QUOTE]Agree on the partying-some of the girls really think themselves something other than prostitutes, and I think going out partying helps them with that delusion-that it is a date, that they are simply going out on the town. Plus, they just want to have fun, go dancing, be a girl, do girly things. They no doubt view 20 somethings and 30 somethings more likely to be a partier than a 40/50 something.

started out going to some gogos i never went to before-lollipop was mostly dead at 8:30, one popular cutie there. popped into baccarat around 9 and left immediately. airport club was insanely loud, a mix of cuties and not so cuties, seemed to be a high number of mothers-always a turn off for me. i usually start off my nights with happy club, which must have the highest number and proportion of pretty girls-probably rivals rainbow 4 in bkk.

walking around i saw a small number of middle aged and above chaps with very young girls, and wondered again how these chaps manage this-do they live here? what's the secret? because mostly it is 40/50+ falang with the less desirable ladies, but some of the older mongers seem to know a trick that i don't know. one chap probably well over 50 was walking around with 2 cuties, neither older than 20.

my favourite haunt in p land remains soi 6. got to be the land of milk and honey for the true ***** monger. have read here and there that nothing to be found on 6 but old ladies but there are some very cute girls, especially after 4pm. earlier in the day i very nearly fell in love with a girl, a mother, aged 25. she just had something that drove me crazy. the mother thing usually drives me right off, but this one it didn't bother me in the least. i hope to find her again tomorrow.

thought for a while about sitting out ny eve in my room. i've never seen anything to celebrate about getting older and closer to death. but i went out to soi 6 to find a young girl that happens to be very affectionate with me. i don't know why, but she doesn't seem to be very popular tho she is in my opinion a real cutie and clearly young and childless. i thought for a while that maybe she was ****, but this turned out to be not true.

i had some drinks with this girl and then around midnight soi 6 exploded, like a war zone. some really dangerous sounding things going off. at the next club over i spied a quite elderly man, probably well over 70, being tended to be a rather young, very thin, very pretty thai girl, what they call a 'chocolate girl' here, very dark skinned, quite lovely. sugar grand-daddy or something like that.

then upstairs and boom boom with my soi 6 friend. have to say, she isn't the best in bed, and maybe this is why she isn't popular. she's too inexperienced or maybe too indifferent to the sex. but she isn't ice cold, just not long in the tooth on sexual matters.

which actually is my chief complaint about thai girls. they just generally aren't very sexual creatures, in my experience. compared to the russians, poles, bulgarians and eastern europeans generally. it's more like they are performing a duty, like washing dishes, or like serving a meal. they don't seem to 'connect' to the double backed beast. it's like there's music playing, but they don't hear the beat.

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[QUOTE=Beagleface]I go for top of the crop, yes. I got spoiled by the FKK clubs, where supermodels are not uncommon, and very pretty girls everywhere. Looks like there are fewer girls actually than in low season, definitely along beach road, there's maybe 1/10th as many SW as before.[/quote]

Though you will never find 'the top of the crop' along Beach Road, a dimunition in numbers could be due to crackdowns rather than the season..

[QUOTE=Beagleface]I do shower, don't look like I sleep on the streets, but since I do walk all over Pattaya, I probably do start to look a little dissheveled and sweaty, but I do jump into the shower multiple times/day.[/quote]

Rented motorbike at 100-150/day solves all trudging related problems, BF.

[QUOTE=Beagleface]like I said, this is virtually always from the top of the crop.[/QUOTE]

It is tough if this is your thing - luckily for me I prefer all sorts of less than perfect girls, as long as service is superb. However when upcountry I'm forced to go to Thai-oriented soapies and kareokes, so there I have to shift to the 'get off because she's cute, even though service is poor' strategy. I might suggest you try going upcountry, though obviously no one there has even heard of the concept of 'long time'.

Phone rental at BKK?

I come into BKK then head to Pattaya for 4 days, back to Bangkok for 2, Ko Chang for 4, HKT for 11.

Do they rent phones at BKK? if so can you call in all the above places with no extra charges?

Never rented a phone before and would appreciate any help.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Opebo]It is tough if this is your thing. Luckily for me I prefer all sorts of less than perfect girls, as long as service is superb. However when upcountry I'm forced to go to Thai-oriented soapies and kareokes, so there I have to shift to the 'get off because she's cute, even though service is poor' strategy. I might suggest you try going upcountry, though obviously no one there has even heard of the concept of 'long time'.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't know what 'upcountry' means. Outside Pattaya? BKK? Good service from an unattractive girl does nothing for me, maybe even leaves a bad taste in my mouth, so to speak. I like being around pretty girls. But very often they are bored, probably put to the streets by 'boyfriends' who claim to love them.

Cell phone pix of a cutie on soi 6. Maybe not so cute in the pix, but in person, very cute, great face. On the down side, yet another single mom, even tho she's quite young. Her body isn't fantastic.

[QUOTE=Beagleface]I do shower, don't look like I sleep on the streets,[/QUOTE]

Though the basics count, there can be a million other reasons. I was trying to escape the gravity well of Walking Street, and heading for 2nd road via soi 15 when I passed an all but empty beer bar and a cute girl managed to stop me. Very pleasant young girl, not long in town, can't speak English, but more responsive than most bar girls. I'd more or less decided I'd ask her to go with me when a farang guy swung by, spoke shortly with the mamasan and told me while leaving "Good lady! But lie too much!" At the time it didn't even register with me, but to my astonishment tears started to roll down the cheeks of the girl with me. A minute ago she was all smiles, but the visit of this guy made her cry. The mamasan gave her a steely lecture in Thai, which made her cry a lot more, though quietly, holding on to me. The mamasan apologized for all the commotion, and told me the problem was that the girl couldn't speak English. I told her I'd like to take her along, and asked if she was OK with it, if she'd rather not go tonight that's fine, if she's tired or whatever no problem. But she said she's up for it, and gave me a smile, so I paid the 300 BF and off we went. To cut a long story short, in the room she froze up, not like a starfish, more like a letterbox, and after eventually undoing one (1) of her buttons I asked if she would rather go back to the bar, or if she could relax a bit. This sent her into the depths of despondency, but she gave me the 300b out of her pocket of her own accord, refused when I gave her 100b back, and trudged off. All very sad as we got along fine outside.

Obviously she had frozen up with the previous guy also, and she knew the mamasan would not be on her side. 2010 was not looking good for her future as a bar girl. Probably all for the best, she should go home and be a good girl.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff] I'd more or less decided I'd ask her to go with me when a farang guy swung by, spoke shortly with the mamasan and told me while leaving "Good lady! But lie too much!" At the time it didn't even register with me, [/QUOTE]
Rocks,
What made you take her after the guy had already given you a warning? Were you caught up in the moment and thinking with the little head?