East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Halloerstmal; 1166097]Interesting thought somehow. Anybody got experiecne with this kind of arrangement?

There was a discussion recently in this thread on this topic but I don't recall anybody actually went for it. [/QUOTE]20K is a lot of money. You could get 20 different girls with that. However if the girl is great and you are spending that amount every month anyway (I certainly don't) , it can be better to have one extraordinary girl rather than 20 "mamahuhu" by-the-clock experiences. It all depends on your budget and preferences.

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1166414]No shit.

If the information we nicely put up here for free is going to be copy pasted on some site that charges 60 bucks a year for access, then at least Jackson could avoid letting them advertise here for free. [/QUOTE]I am sorry, if you think like that. We don`t charge anything for access. 95 percent off all informations on our webpage are for free, we only charge for the member area with some additional information. (like the sauna adress). Everything else is for free). And we invest a lot of effort, to make it easy to find the information you need now. For example the Sauna Google Map we did. You will not find it any where else in the web, I think. And it is for free. So most of the service is useful and free for everyone.

And the concept is same than in ISG, nearly everything is free, but if I want to see the pictures someone uploaded here, I also have to pay for the chance to see the pictures, so you upload a adress card of the sauna club here and the forum charge others to see it. I think we also add a lot of additional efforts and informations (like the location cards we did, check the locations, rate them and so on). I am sure you will not finde any "copy-pasted" things on our page. And I only put cards back here to thank, because I know how complicate it is to find locations, if you are a newbie. Sorry, if someone think, this is a bad behavior or useless "advertisement".

If some of you guys also like to visit Girls Bars in Shanghai, I put some additional location cards here.

HuaShanLu is near Hilton Hotel in Puxi, Heng Shan Lu is the little Street corner with some crazy illuminated Bars you see, if you drive by, Pudong Avenue is one of the Bar Locations in Pudong (also a nice Massage Center at this place) , Babyface is a nice club where you can find local girls, same than Paramount and Muse. Big Bamboo is a sportsbar, but around you also will find Manhattan, Excalibur Girls bar, and around the corner other Girls Bars (Gogo China, Woodstock, Lady Gaga bar, Flying Dragon Bar).

Long time I did not see any post about this topic here, so I think for new visitors, it could be helpful to get some background about that.

In China you find a lot of Bars with "drinking" Girls. In this Bars there will be (sometimes beautiful) Girls willing to drink with you. There will be two kind of girls:

- most are hired by the bar, they get a (low) fixed salary (around RMB 500 to RMB 1000) every month and additional commission for every drink they take. In Shanghai Girls Bars the price for a drink is 50 or 100 RMB each drink, the girl get around 30.

- some of the girls are "free", they can be there, also get commission, but they are Freelancer looking for customers there. But you will find less Freelencer in Girlsbars, because most bar owner don`t like them to take out the customer very fast, but who want`s to spend out a lot of money in a bar, if he allready cleared everything with the girl to go home together.

Now you have different types of Girls Bars.

- most of them only provide Girls drink with you, also make you a little bit hot (to drink more) , but nothing else will happend (exept some touch or kiss).

- some Bars also offer some "VIP Areas", where you can have a lot of fun (For Example BBBJ, FS with one or more girls same time) in the Bar directly. But you have to know, this private areas most time not really private, so other girls and sometimes even other customers will pass by.

But you have to know this is not a cheap entertainment. It is a little bit more exiting than a Sauna or Massage, because you have to attract the girls to do more with you, and could be you spend a lot and nothing happend, but could also be they like you and you have a great big party with some really hot girlfriend experience. In old Tong Ren Lu a friend of mine went upstairs with a girl, than later they went to a private room, than later her (real!) sister also join them, than another girl later and he had the first time GF Experience with 3 Girls same time. He spend 5000 this night, but stay in the Bar from 10:30 pm to 7:30 am. But I also know people spend 10k and more in a bar and nothing happend at the end.

Cheating Ways: If you are not so familiar with girls bars, you should take care about some points how they will cheat you.

1. Wrong Drinks: The girls earn money for drinking. You want to have fun, and as more the girls getting drunken, as more hot the party will be. So most girls try to order a cocktail called "sex on the beach". Normally charged with 100 RMB for a small glass, there is nearly no alcohol inside. So she can finish a rack with 10 Drinks in half an hour (RMB 1000!) without getting even a little bit drunken. Tip: better ask for double Tequila, same price, but the Girl will never drink so much so fast (and also sometimes check the tequile, could be tea with same color). Or you order Beer, there is not faked beer bottle in China. (you can tell them you only drink beer and you like them to drink together. Than the cost will rise up much slower). You also can order a bottle of Whiskey or Tequila. Girls don`t like, because commission is very low for that, but the price will be 600 to 800 in the Bar and if you and some girls drink together, you can have drunken girls easy and much cheaper. But if you want to have more than talking, you should also spend out some shots to comfort them. You will see, they will give some back (at least the "no cheating girls").

2. Faked Bills: Normaly in the bar there will be a cup on the table and every time the girls or you take a drink, a "bill" with the price and the girls name (for their commission) will be put inside. In a very reliable bar they will let you sign each paper, so you can be sure it`s right (but trust me guys, this are not the bars you get really hot fun). But if you get drunken, than the girls (or the boss) will put additonal bills inside, so could be you order Drinks for 1500 RMB and finally they ask you to pay 3 000 or 5 000 RMB. And if you avoid to pay, they will make big trouble. I suggest to ask for the police than, because if they did not let you sign every bill, the police normaly will be on your side (and the bar manager know this for sure).

3. More and more Girls: Most of us are happy, if they have one or two girls. But in the Girls Bars, they will try to push you to as many girls as possible. I saw a lot of western guys with 5 or 10 girls around. Than every round with double shots will be charged with 500 to 1000 RMB. This is really waste of money, because all this girls will leave without giving you anything back. So keep calm and send away every girl you don`t like. They will ask you for: "only one drink", and so on, but better save this budget for the girls will really give you something back.

4. Pretent to go home with you: Most Bar Girls will pretend to go home with you later, next day or whenever (normally they have working time till 3 am or even 5 to 6 am and can not go home with customer in working time, exept you spend 5 000 to 10 000 in the Bar at least). But they will make you horny and talk with you dirty, so you will think later, when the bar close, you will be able to take them home. They very often even promise like that. So you will stay long time, comfort her with a lot of drinks and you will get more and more horney. Than later they will have some excuse, why they can not (for example have to pick up someting home, have to go home with friends and so on). Sometimes even tell you, they will come to your place later, than switch of their phone or ignore you. The "real talents" will be able to give you the feeling, one day you will take her home, so you come back again and again.

Tip: you can have a lot of fun in the girls bars, also you can have great girl friend experience, but never go there to pick up a girl. This will never work! You better go to the same bar from time to time, get friends to some girls, than you rise up your chance to "seduce" one of them. But never loose the focus on your Budget. The highest bill I ever saw was a drunken guy in old Tong Ren Lu Bar, he should pay 95 000 RMB only for the drinks (as they found out, he is stupid and drunken enough, more than 30 Girls come to ask for drinks, take double rounds and so on.). And the crazy guy took his credit card and paid for it. What kind of entertainment we could have with such a budget. If you like to have fun in the Bar, you better check out, which one offer "full service". Problem is, they will never tell you about the service you will get, because officially the boss of the bar has no idea, what the girls do with the customers, when they leave to privat area. So the boss also can not force the girls to do any service if the girls don`t like. So in every Bar it is a lucky draw. You can have FS in a Bar with a girl, but next time the other girl in the same Bar will not even kiss you. But there are some Bars they will be specialized on "better" service, so there you can be 90% sure you get what you want, because here the boss will not keep girls they only pretend, but finally not do any special service. But your budget should be between 500 and 1500 for a evening an a Bar with some extra fun like BBBJ, HJ or FS.

So check it out. And don`t forget to leave a post here about your experience.

Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu. There are four in a row. If you are staying at the Pudong Sheraton, it is a short walk. Did not sample the goods, as I was on a run and dripping with sweat. The talent looked to be in the 6-8 range. As I was chatting with a couple of the girls, they threw out 400, double what it should be for FS. Must be because I was dripping wet. Will go back soon and dip into the merchandise.

So what is the latest on red rope activities? Apparently the web site is now too smart for the likes of me, and I just can't figure out how to do a proper search. I went back a few pages and couldn't find the term, so I'll ask. What is the story with the Red Rope? Where can you get it, do you have to ask or is it standard, etc?

Last I understood it could be had at Hailang, still true? I have a buddy in town that wants to try it, as do I, check it off the list so to speak.

[QUOTE=Shmitty; 1166818]So what is the latest on red rope activities? Apparently the web site is now too smart for the likes of me, and I just can't figure out how to do a proper search. I went back a few pages and couldn't find the term, so I'll ask. What is the story with the Red Rope? Where can you get it, do you have to ask or is it standard, etc?

Last I understood it could be had at Hailang, still true? I have a buddy in town that wants to try it, as do I, check it off the list so to speak. [/QUOTE]Be sure you are signed in. Go to the Shanghai Thread. Up at the top right is a box listed "Search Thread". Click there and type Red Rope. You should see about 100 posts. Anyway, I recall a recent post saying it could still be had at Hailang, but you better ask when you arrive, to make sure you get someone who can do it.

I think it is new. There is a BBS at about 936 Changle Road, between Wulumuqi and Changshu Roads. Walked by a couple of times and the ladies were trying to wave me in. Really handy to the Hilton. Go south on Changshu to Changle, and turn right. Look for the green foot massage sign.

[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1166831]Be sure you are signed in. Go to the Shanghai Thread. Up at the top right is a box listed "Search Thread". Click there and type Red Rope. You should see about 100 posts. Anyway, I recall a recent post saying it could still be had at Hailang, but you better ask when you arrive, to make sure you get someone who can do it.[/QUOTE]I'm not looking for anything at the minute, but I wanted to pipe in here. The search function on here sucks unless I'm using it wrong. The box at the top right corner says "advanced search", and entering "Red Rope" into this pulls up a list of THREADS, not posts, with the words Red and Rope highlighted in yellow. So all this accomplished is showing that there is the reference to "red rope" in the 1000s of pages of the Shanghai thread. I clicked on the Shanghai thread and it took me right here where I started. Is there another function for "search thread" that I'm missing? I don't see it.

SCRATCH THAT. I FOUND IT. It's not a box, it's a small drop menu in a white bar. That works much better.

Anyone know this hotel Kingtown Riverside Hotel Plaza Shanghai is GF-friendly?

Onyone know is it Kingtown Riverside Hotel Plaza Shanghai girl-friendly?

Thanks for the answers to my previous questions. Would have felt like an idiot bringing swimming trunks. Alas, I have another quick trivial question about saunas.

Do they take credit card?

[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1167143]Thanks for the answers to my previous questions. Would have felt like an idiot bringing swimming trunks. Alas, I have another quick trivial question about saunas.

Do they take credit card? [/QUOTE]Yes, they do take credit cards.

Sometime in Asia (not so sure abou tPRC venues) there might (repeat might) be an overcharge for hte use of CC.

Anyhow, back on the swimming trunk subject, something is for sure: do not be shy and do not be homofobic.

Common shower will see naked men around, in the pool and so on.

In Macau when you take the japanese shower, despite the cubicle the attention fo the gilrs on your nuts and little head is quite obvious, same as when they stroke it a bit. And when in some sauna in macau they perform the famous deep vein massage or thigh massage in the main and common lounge, it is quite obvious what the girl is doing under the towel.

China sauna are more discrete in this, I have never seen large relax lounges, but small rooms

[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1166473]I. Big Bamboo is a sportsbar, but around you also will find Manhattan, Excalibur Girls bar, and around the corner other Girls Bars (Gogo China, Woodstock, Lady Gaga bar, Flying Dragon Bar).[/QUOTE]And in them you will find older, worn looking, out-of-shape philippinas.

[QUOTE=Stegram; 1166853]I'm not looking for anything at the minute, but I wanted to pipe in here. The search function on here sucks unless I'm using it wrong. The box at the top right corner says "advanced search", and entering "Red Rope" into this pulls up a list of THREADS, not posts, with the words Red and Rope highlighted in yellow. So all this accomplished is showing that there is the reference to "red rope" in the 1000s of pages of the Shanghai thread. I clicked on the Shanghai thread and it took me right here where I started. Is there another function for "search thread" that I'm missing? I don't see it.

SCRATCH THAT. I FOUND IT. It's not a box, it's a small drop menu in a white bar. That works much better.[/QUOTE]I'm not finding it, but the only place in town since G18 closed has been Hailang.

I tihnk we'll check the Bodi off the list, and then maybe come back for the red rope later.

The legendary Shanghai Hotel in Puxi always offered Red Rope. You had to tell the girl not to it and wave her off, or it was part of the script.

Located on 505 Wulumuqi Lu North, the Shanghai Hotel had / has both normal rooms upstairs and a wet lands downstairs. You get the wet lands with Red Rope if you request (ed) VIP when you walk in the door of the sauna. Price was 800 rmb for VIP.

Uncertain if it is now open, but given it's legendary history, it's an even money bet that it is.

Here is a link to a taxi card for all those who want to take a shot a old school institution known for it's Red Rope offering.

[url]http://www.smartshanghai.com/venue/2873/Shanghai-Hotel_shanghai[/url]

Here is a link to a photo from post #2135 under China / Photo Galery.

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=135509&d=1276846706[/url]

This is standard equipment using the hand grip bars in the ceiling. This is what the Shanghai Hotel always offered.

Here is a link to photos Post #1101 that shows a more advanced piece of gear. Not sure where this could have been.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2690-2006-Photo-Gallery&p=517201#post517201[/url]