Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;2068723]Recently bagged a job at Bangkok. The pay is a little above 70 k per month and will increase in coming times. Work location would be around Ekamai.

Do you guys think after all the expenses (except on girls), I'll be able to save 50%+ of my salary every month? FYI, I'm planning to rent a 1 bedroom condo.

I've been to BKK numerous times but as a tourist, so honestly no idea about monthly expenses. I searched over Internet for this but most of the information available are outdated!

Where I'm working right now, pays me 40% more than this salary but since it's Thailand I'm willing to compromise.

Any suggestion / comment on expenses in general would be appreciated.

Tom.[/QUOTE]If you practice this hobby, you won't be able to save 1 Baht. Think about it. It's about 2,000 USD. If your comdo will be on Sukhumvit, that will be 15-20K. Actually, not only will you not be able to save, but you will most likely burn through your entitle savings practicing this hobby. It's addictive, especially if you live on Suk.

I always enjoy visiting the massage shops on Soi 11 next to Villa Market. The day time selection was awful but it improved greatly in the evening. But good news came at Nana.

Today is my first full day in BKK. I'm at Nana now and I must say I'm very impressed. My last few trips here have been marked by a steady decline in the quality of girls. Not so tonight. Visited Twister, Rainbow 5, Billboard, Angelwitch, and Spanky's. Each had a decent to good lineup and I had no problem making a selection. Went with a girl named Gay from Angelwitch. B700 BF and B2000 short time. She agreed to come to my hotel but I changed my mind at the last second and used the short time hotel at Nana for B350. Gay went out of her way to show me a good time. A very good start to a month long trip.

First off I'd like to say thank you to all who helped me feel great about my first adventure overseas. Still have a couple things that I have question's about.

I haven't really been nervous on the planning phase of this trip until someone told a story about a nana bar experience and another monger (BKKDOG I think) pointed out it was a post op ladyboy bar. I feel very knowledgeable about lots of things thanks to forums. But is there a complete list somewhere of the ladyboy gogos or which ones are mixed and so on? I searched on here and came up with a few but man I'd like a exact list. HAHA. Thought of drinking one too many and getting into that situation is only thing left bothering me. Studying ways with arms or Adams apple or big feet or tall leaves me not too sure.

Motobike. I have a well reviewed taxi service for transportation from airport to BKK and then to Pattaya. Does anyone have a goto motorbike favorite that speaks decent English? I plan on being everywhere all throughout the day / night for some good reports. Motobike seems like a easier way with less walking. Especially when visiting some of the off-the-beaten path soapies as well as patpong and few other places. I plan on MRT or the other one (Get them confused) for Sukumvit travel.

Finally got my membership so feel free to pm me Motobike information.

Thanks.

I made a brief trip to Bangkok this month and want to give back to the forum.

I made a trip to Benten Massage for a 1. 5 h massage with a lady whose name is Sora. Prices range being a 1700 and 2600 Bhat depending on length of massage. The higher end of course being all. Inclusive. Room was simple and there was a shower on the same floor. The experience was nice and can recommend.

Here is the homepage: [URL]http://gdiary.com/benten-fashion-massage/[/URL] It appears the parlour targets Japanese customers as the page is in Japanese. Here is the address: 128/8 Silom Soi 6 Opposite AOI Japanese Restaurant Silom Rd. ,Bangkok 10500 Thailand.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2069279]
I haven't really been nervous on the planning phase of this trip until someone told a story about a nana bar experience and another monger (BKKDOG I think) pointed out it was a post op ladyboy bar. I feel very knowledgeable about lots of things thanks to forums. But is there a complete list somewhere of the ladyboy gogos or which ones are mixed and so on? I searched on here and came up with a few but man I'd like a exact list. HAHA. Thought of drinking one too many and getting into that situation is only thing left bothering me. Studying ways with arms or Adams apple or big feet or tall leaves me not too sure.[/QUOTE]First off, I think you are getting overly concerned about LB's and walking into the wrong bar, and making a fatal mistake. LOL. In over 25 years of playing around in Thailand, I have never made that mistake nor even come close. I think most punters have a similar experience. Thus the odds of making the fatal error are very, very low because LB's are easy to spot, even for a newbie, by their size (height, hands and feet), exaggerated behavior (especially on stage), looks (most ladyboys contrary to popular myth are not attractive and have some degree of masculinity they can't hide), and voice. Plus, there are not many mixed Go Go's or other venues, so if you spot a ladyboy dancer in a Go Go or massage parlor, assume they are all ladyboys and leave unless you have some secret desire to hook up with one.

Anyway, here is a short list of Go Go's that are all LB free to allay your apprehensions before your big trip. This list is incomplete. I basically composed it off the top of my head of Go Go's that I know without a shadow of doubt do not employ Kathoey dancers.

[B]Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Nana:[/B]

All the Rainbow Go Go's, Billboard, Twister, Spanky's, Candy Land 2. Mandarin, and Angel Witch.

[B] Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Soi Cowboy: [/B]

All Cowboy Bars are LB free except Cockatoo and Midnight (mixed).

[B]Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Patpong:[/B]

Kings Castle 1 & 2, Badabing, Electric Blue, Pink Panther, and the Strip.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2069324]
[B]Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Nana:[/B]

All the Rainbow Go Go's, Billboard, Twister, Spanky's, Candy Land 2. Mandarin, and Angel Witch.[/QUOTE]Glad to see you didn't include Cassanova. I think there might be some lady boys in there.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2069324][B]Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Nana:[/B]
All the Rainbow Go Go's, Billboard, Twister, Spanky's, Candy Land 2. Mandarin, and Angel Witch.

[B] Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Soi Cowboy: [/B]
All Cowboy Bars are LB free except Cockatoo and Midnight (mixed).

[B]Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Patpong:[/B]
Kings Castle 1 & 2, Badabing, Electric Blue, Pink Panther, and the Strip.[/QUOTE]Good list! I think this would be helps a lot. I have the same problem with the LB.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;2069053]Thanks for the advice. I'm going negotiate the offer for 100 k, hopefully I'll be able to convince them for this.[/QUOTE]I got scared and misread the question and thought one needed more than 100 k / yr USD to live in BKK. I was hoping 50 k / yr USD -so roughly 130 k baht / month- could land one a decent rental along Sukhumvit w / and a comfortable walk to the BTS and have plenty of P4P and travel $. Sorry if wrong forum, I will look for answers elsewhere.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2069324][B] Guaranteed Ladyboy Free Bars in Soi Cowboy: [/B]

All Cowboy Bars are LB free except Cockatoo and Midnight (mixed).[/QUOTE]Cowboy2 has Ladyboys.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2069324]First off, I think you are getting overly concerned about LB's and walking into the wrong bar, and making a fatal mistake. LOL. In over 25 years of playing around in Thailand, I have never made that mistake nor even come close. I think most punters have a similar experience. Thus the odds of making the fatal error are very, very low because LB's are easy to spot, even for a newbie, by their size (height, hands and feet), exaggerated behavior (especially on stage), looks (most ladyboys contrary to popular myth are not attractive and have some degree of masculinity they can't hide), and voice. Plus, there are not many mixed Go Go's or other venues, so if you spot a ladyboy dancer in a Go Go or massage parlor, assume they are all ladyboys and leave unless you have some secret desire to hook up with one.

Anyway, here is a short list of Go Go's that are all LB free to allay your apprehensions before your big trip. This list is incomplete. I basically composed it off the top of my head of Go Go's that I know without a shadow of doubt do not employ Kathoey dancers. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list, much appreciated.

My experience is that if the ladyboy starts the treatments at a young age it is pretty damn hard to tell as most of the telltale masculine signs, such as hands, shoulders, etc, have not really and will not get a chance to develop.

Try walking past Thermae at night, most of the fls outside are ladyboys and you can tell right away with most of them. But with some of them it is pretty hard to tell with bad lighting, I am talking petite figure, pretty face, skinny-- not linebacker shoulders protruding from dress. Even the bar girls have trouble IDing some of ladyboys sometimes so just imagine when your drunk, etc.

Just my. 02 c.

Recently visited this place again, have to say Tilac is now a far cry from where it used to be. Seems like the older, oversized dancers get moved here from the other places. Was there on two occasions, second time didn't even bother to sit down for a drink. Rawhide has a fair amount of cute ones, but mainly Coyotees who can only be barfined for inflated prices or not at all. As usual Bacara has a lot of cuties, but when the Japanese clients are out in full force, Westeners might find it challenging to score. For Massage (well actually not for the massage.), my favourite is Club 102. Well run place (by a French guy, who usually arranges the line up personally), have tried 3 providers (Green, Wawa and Donna) and all were very good, though Green and Wawa were slightly better.

Now that I am away from LOS, I am ready to share this strange night in Bangkok. It all began with my tgf coming three days late than earlier decided plan. Three days of my single life back in Bangkok, I was salivating at the prospect of new found freedom and overplanned 72 hrs. My instinct was to just go to soapies in afternoon and gogos at night. Agghhhh if only I had not given any more thought than this. I had to book an escort through smooci so I could optimise my sex frequency. I was arriving late so booked an escort instead of resting for the night. Smooci is great app and booking process was smooth. She arrived on time, She was better than many of gogo girls in boom boom. However, there was big surprise coming for me (she was 100% girl, this ain't that kind of surprise). After boom boom we went out for late night drinking and came back to hotel. As soon as we got back she got a call from her brother or friendzoned brother or brothers boyfriend or whatever they call Thai boyfriend these days. She started crying cause her brother boyfriend found out about her business venture with smooci and he spilled the beans with family. A big loss of face for her. She spent next few hours crying in my arms and I spent those hours hoping that there isn't a somchai waiting outside hotel to stab me. I tried next hour trying to calm her down and getting rid of her. I was even ready to pay full money just to go back home and sleep. Paranoid as fuck, I had just watched elephant King Thai movie on my flight and read too many stories about jelo murdering Bastards in Thai visa. Fortunately, I was not part of any thriller or Bangkok post article. Next two days, I just kept banging emanuelle and lords hotties. Full marks to smooci though she did not go before her time.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2069324]In over 25 years of playing around in Thailand, I have never made that mistake nor even come close. I think most punters have a similar experience. Thus the odds of making the fatal error are very, very low because LB's are easy to spot, even for a newbie, by their size (height, hands and feet), exaggerated behavior (especially on stage), looks (most ladyboys contrary to popular myth are not attractive and have some degree of masculinity they can't hide), and voice. [/QUOTE]I am not sure how many punters here will ever 'fess up to mistakenly cozying up with a LB at least once in their illustrious careers. Put one in front of a judge and they will claim the fifth. 5555.

I guess I don't get it. I definitely don't want a ladyboy BUT if you really can't tell the difference even after you had sex with them what difference does it make. If you want to be certain look at their ID it will have their born as gender. However be aware if you ask a natural born woman you want to see her ID to prove that she is not a ladyboy it will probably p.i.s.s her off.

As an example if you really think that your date had an orgasm or really enjoyed sex with you what difference does it make if she did or not. lol

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2069529]I am not sure how many punters here will ever 'fess up to mistakenly cozying up with a LB at least once in their illustrious careers. Put one in front of a judge and they will claim the fifth. 5555.[/QUOTE]One night a couple of years ago as I was leaving Rainbow 3, I spotted a very pretty spinner sitting on the veranda in front of Straps. She could not have been taller than 5 ft. , and probably weighed less than 40 kg with soft skin and what looked like small round natural Thai girl tities. She saw me looking her way and smiled, so I walked over and said Hi. We talked for a while and I told her I thought she was very pretty. Then I asked straight up if she was a ladyboy. She smiled and said no. Ha Ha. And except for the fact that she worked in Straps, a well-known postie LB bar, I would never have asked the question because she totally passed my LB sensors with flying colors. Even sitting close to her in plenty of good light, I could not detect any sign of her not being a very sexy, natural born girl. My spec totally.

So, she invites me into her bar and we go in and sit down at a table. I order a round and we continue chatting. The drinks come and her drink is an orange soda in a small glass. Now here comes the tell: she takes her drink and swallows the whole contents of the glass fast in two large gulps. Then she asks if I want to barfine her. I begin to say something like, "well maybe darling. Uh, why don't we take our time and get to know each a little bit be. " When she abruptly turns around and jumps up onto the small stage before I can even finish my sentence. I am left speechless with my words hanging out of my mouth, but then I begin to laugh. Meanwhile the girl is on the stage right in front of me, pretending I am not there.

I sipped my diet coke for a few more minutes while I checked out the other "girls" dancing in the bar stage. They were all obvious LB's. Then I paid my tab and still laughing / smiling, I waved good bye to the sexy little spinner, whatever she was. And to this day I cannot say with absolute certainty whether she was a natural born girl or a ladyboy. I think she was a real girl, but it does seem a little strange to me that a really pretty natural born girl would choose to work in a small post op LB bar when she could be a super star in a much larger Go Go like Twister or Crazy House and have 10-fold more customers knocking down her door. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Her behavior caused her to fail the audition. Otherwise I might have found out definitively what she really was. 555. But she was the exception that proves the rule. One possible LB out of a thousand might, the operative word is might, have got past my LB sensors. Meanwhile, no sober punter can walk past Temptations, Casanova (good one Smoothy), or Obsessions and not know what's going on. It's that obvious.