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[QUOTE=Sailor Jim; 1520120]Been going to a Medellin doctor in San Diego and I think I am getting the shaft. The shots are now only lasting 2, months, whereas in the US they last 6 and cost less. This guy is adding water or short changing me somehow. Typical Colombian, penny wise, pound foolish about to lose my business for life instead doing the right thing and having my business untli my face falls off.

Can anyone recommend an honest BOTOX doctor in Medellin that will give me what I pay for? Thanks![/QUOTE]I do agree with you about the Penny Wise and Dollar / Pound foolish. I don't know about Botox but he could just have lower end shit? You know what I mean?

Good Luck

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1520160]I do agree with you about the Penny Wise and Dollar / Pound foolish. I don't know about Botox but he could just have lower end shit? You know what I mean?

Good Luck[/QUOTE]He told me he had something new from Japan that everyone is using it is better than Alergan Botox and costs the same. So I went for it and t lasted less.

I said 'let's switch back to the Alergan. ' Guess what? It suddenly costs more.

He's telling me "Oh the muscles in your forhead are really strong, I've never seen anything like it". Yet when I get the shots in the US my forehead muscles are suddenly different and the stuff lasts 6 months.

This country wonders why it is imersed in poverty and why other countries refuse to open shop here and do business with Colombians. Sad but true.

Colombia Creed: "I would rather rip you off now and make an extra 5mil pesos once today, than do the right thing and have you as a repeat customer who will give me referrals and I make exponentially more for years."

One in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush, penny wise pound foolish all at a whole new level.

I will be going through this process during the next month and will report back what I find out when all is completed. I have friends that have gone through the process and most have fared well and some have not.

The first step is to have the girl contact the US embassy in Bogota. She will be given dates to chose from that are approximately one month from now. Then she has to fly to Bogota to interview for the Visa. Over 90% of the time she will receive an answer then and there. I was told, by the Embassy in Bogota, that all tourist visas are good for 10 years. If accepted she will have the necessary forms mailed to her house in a few weeks.

The most important thing that they are looking for is that she has a good reason to return to Colombia ie. A good job, a stable family environment and / or kids, etc.

I have been told recently that the acceptance rate is higher that ever right now. We shall see what happens.

New member here. Met a chica in Cartagena last summer but she was denied a tourist visa to Canada for lack of travel experience and unsufficient worthy properties or something like that. Would like to try again this Autumn. What are the best advices you guys out there have?

Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1527289]Nevertheless I will give you my insight regarding our hobby. For the most part I'm an open book and I talk openly about my travels. I have lost friends, I have friends who don't want to see photos or hear about my exploits and then a few that get a kick out of my life style. I would say 20% of my male friends don't keep in touch anymore. 60% of my friends do not want to hear about my travels and 20% are very interested. So that's my experience and I'm blue collar w / a varied bunch of friends.

I find it hard not to talk about it. Whenever possible I will challenge women w / my lifestyle and I will justify every aspect of it.

Respectful mongering is a very positive life style. There are millions upon millions of poor women and men who benefit from sex tourist and all are not sex workers. These benefits keep these poor people alive, out of the gutter, and enable them to have a chance of a better life.[/QUOTE]I agree that this should be in the General Info section yet you commented on it here without moving it to General Info. I am going to make a habit of moving my comments on things like this to the General Info section.

I like your 20/60/20 model which is probably somewhat similar for me. As far as telling American women about this hobby I would advice you to refrain from this or at worst don't talk about it much. Women will respect you less and it won't help your chances of getting laid with them. I have a friend of mine who tells women that he sees 2-3 girls every trip and he never talks about money involvement with them. This is probably a safe vantage point.

The majority of money being spent on prostitution in Colombia is by local Colombians. Only a very, very small percentage comes from foreigners. I am going to elaborate more on this with some statistics, from my perspective, that very few men who come to Colombia can see. I am going to estimate that at least 75%+ of the above average looking girls in the under average barrios will accept money for sex in their lives. Here is the part that most men can't see. Of this 75% at least 80-90% will only do it for a short amount of time or with a limited amount of guys. Most will never see a mp or stripclub. For most Colombian girls prostitution is quick fix to a desperate money situation. For others, a life of prostitution becomes a life for a lazy person and it reinforces laziness. Most of these girls have difficulty returning to normal jobs after they have established this routine for a while. Once they hang around for over a few months this lifestyle is filled with all sorts of problems and bad habits. Even the extra money that could be saved gets wasted on things that they don't need. I would advice you guys to not feel bad for them or guilty though. This is their choice. Hopefully you can be one of the better guys who they meet while they are doing this.

When I repeat with these girls I tell them my attitude regarding this. Surprisingly all of these girls respect my perspective and see me as someone who cares. I tell them that the girls that have the best lives are the girls who do this infrequently or only with a limited number of guys which is the truth IMO. Some of these girls take my advice and feel better about their lives after they reduce their exposure to this lifestyle and I receive the residual of great sex, respect, etc from them afterward. IMO this is the best win-win for all involved. To each their own and good luck to all.

I hope this sheds some light on a very complicated and misunderstood culture. VJ

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1527647]One joint is mot the end of the world but more than one and you are asking for trouble. The dealer told me NO NO NO drugs are not legal in Colombia! Not even consumo but cops will look the other way in some situations ie. Like one joint. The rest you hear about legalized in BS.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]How many times does this have to be talked about on here? Small amounts of drugs are legal Colombia. There are plenty of articles discussing this on the internet and I have posted some on this site. Just google "drugs legal Colombia".

Artisttyp, you are not serious about taking the word of a drug dealer over the infinite amount of information on the web. I am going to be here for 5 of the next 7 months. Next time I walk by the police station I will stop in and talk with them about this so we can clear this up once and for all.

[quote=vegas jeff; 1527492]i agree that this should be in the general info section yet you commented on it here without moving it to general info. i am going to make a habit of moving my comments on things like this to the general info section.

i like your 20/60/20 model which is probably somewhat similar for me. as far as telling american women about this hobby i would advice you to refrain from this or at worst don't talk about it much. women will respect you less and it won't help your chances of getting laid with them. i have a friend of mine who tells women that he sees 2-3 girls every trip and he never talks about money involvement with them. this is probably a safe vantage point.

the majority of money being spent on prostitution in colombia is by local colombians. only a very, very small percentage comes from foreigners. i am going to elaborate more on this with some statistics, from my perspective, that very few men who come to colombia can see. i am going to estimate that at least 75%+ of the above average looking girls in the under average barrios will accept money for sex in their lives. here is the part that most men can't see. of this 75% at least 80-90% will only do it for a short amount of time or with a limited amount of guys. most will never see a mp or stripclub. for most colombian girls prostitution is quick fix to a desperate money situation. for others, a life of prostitution becomes a life for a lazy person and it reinforces laziness. most of these girls have difficulty returning to normal jobs after they have established this routine for a while. once they hang around for over a few months this lifestyle is filled with all sorts of problems and bad habits. even the extra money that could be saved gets wasted on things that they don't need. i would advice you guys to not feel bad for them or guilty though. this is their choice. hopefully you can be one of the better guys who they meet while they are doing this.

when i repeat with these girls i tell them my attitude regarding this. surprisingly all of these girls respect my perspective and see me as someone who cares. i tell them that the girls that have the best lives are the girls who do this infrequently or only with a limited number of guys which is the truth imo. some of these girls take my advice and feel better about their lives after they reduce their exposure to this lifestyle and i receive the residual of great sex, respect, etc from them afterward. imo this is the best win-win for all involved. to each their own and good luck to all.

i hope this sheds some light on a very complicated and misunderstood culture. vj[/quote]

thanks for getting the general discussion in the right place bro. to respond to things regarding my world. speaking frankly to people in general women or men about prostitution is the only way change will take place. that's my rational, people in the us are living in a bubble and their only source of information is the media. the media is half truth and half propaganda and is directing the public in a decietful direction. big media wants to sell merchandise and steer public opinion and they do it well.

here as you know it is not legal for a man or a woman to pay for sexual favors. it is however legal to trick men into thinking they can have sex in a rip off strip club. sexually tricking men is legal here in the land of the free.

another example of the hypocrital us stance on sex is porn.

my city rents out a place called the armory to kink. com. the armory takes up a full city block and kink. com is a company that produces x rated videos and the like. the owner of kink. com pays actors to fuck and suck, whip and bind each other and sell xxx cd's, probably stream it out from it's web site as well. xxx made right in the middle of my city for money, and the city collects the rent.

they are having bought and paid for orgies galore but a simple lonely guy cannot buy some intimacy w a women.

how fucked up is this? it's extremely fucked up. no media coverage on that.

jose in colombia takes a bus to the casa and spends a small amout of his paycheck. his biological needs are taken care of and he relaxes at home w / his family.

joe in the usa gets his paycheck and goes out looking to get laid. spends 50% or more of his pay, maybe drives drunk bar hopping, maybe ends up in jail.

this happens hundreds if not thousands of time per day. joe is the guy who i want to help. the fucking hypocrital us government could give a shit about joe. from my life experience i see women as the main source of this hypocrisy. i don't want it to be like this but i can't deny my own objective observations.

also bro, the way things are going it is going to get worse for men in the usa. enuff said.

on the chicas for hire. i am always supportive. in the sack i'm a demanding romantic and they earn their dough w / me. that said i have much respect for working girls all over the world, not just colombia. they have made my life now in my latter years very nice, too nice. i'm am now wasting too much time on the hobby as i am doing right now. but i don't want to stop.

i don't feel sorry for any of them, colombiana, filipina, mexicana, etc. (as you said, you can be one of the better guys) i treat them w / respect.

a few months back i asked a question here on isg, medellin reports about advice on helping chicas invest their hooker money and no one responded.

not one smart guy here was willing to take a couple of minutes to give me advice.

i don't understand the banking and investment process in colombia or any other country except my own. but as you said these chicas have no clue as to saving or protecting their income. i'm sure there is government taxation issues, banking requirements, different savings vehicles for the ladies to take advantage of but don't know how to help them in this most important aspect of their lives..

i asked the pros on the medellin board and not a peep. so i don't know what to tell my amigas about saving for their future's out of this business. i think they deserve help in this regard if they want it.

so maybe you can tell me a little about how the girls can save (20%) their money thru the colombian banking system and what the requirements are. i wonder what the savings interest rates are in colombia. i'll try goggle.

oh well, shit happens right? .

cheers bro

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff;1527886]Artisttyp, you are not serious about taking the word of a drug dealer over the infinite amount of information on the web.[/QUOTE]I absolutely do. I was out there for two weeks doing my thing with the locals. What happens in real life trumps all written laws. When the cops came you better believe people put out their joints. It was just like NYC in the 70's / 80's. It wasn't legal but cops looked the other way "if" you know how to play the game. Considering the entire centro area is a big drug den someone smoking a joint isn't the end of the world.

Sure walk into a police station and ask. That should be interesting.

Do you just read information on the web or do you actually 420 out in the park? Have you been in the park when the cops suddenly come through on motorcycles?

[quote=socker; 1528660]joe in the usa gets his paycheck and goes out looking to get laid. spends 50% or more of his pay, maybe drives drunk bar hopping, maybe ends up in jail.

this happens hundreds if not thousands of time per day. joe is the guy who i want to help. the fucking hypocrital us government could give a shit about joe. from my life experience i see women as the main source of this hypocrisy. i don't want it to be like this but i can't deny my own objective observations.

i don't understand the banking and investment process in colombia or any other country except my own. but as you said these chicas have no clue as to saving or protecting their income. i'm sure there is government taxation issues, banking requirements, different savings vehicles for the ladies to take advantage of but don't know how to help them in this most important aspect of their lives.

i asked the pros on the medellin board and not a peep. so i don't know what to tell my amigas about saving for their future's out of this business. i think they deserve help in this regard if they want it.

so maybe you can tell me a little about how the girls can save (20%) their money thru the colombian banking system and what the requirements are. i wonder what the savings interest rates are in colombia. i'll try goggle.

oh well, shit happens right? .

cheers bro[/quote]if you want to help joe just tell him about your experiences as a monger and tell him to stop wasting his time in american strip joints.

you probably didn't get a response to your question about banking because experienced mongers know that 99.9999% of working girls in colombia won't follow your advise if it is handed to them on a silver platter so they didn't want to waste their time, maybe i'm wrong but i don't think so.

banking in colombia is very similar to the usa with the exception that their is nothing like fdic, your money is not insured, if the bank goes tits up you are screwed. a girl can open up a savings account and once she has a few bucks she can buy something equivalent to c.d.'s and earn about 4.5%.

colombians, men or women are "yes" people, they don't like to argue or disagree so you will get many girls who will listen to your pitch and agree with what you are saying but at the end of the day the money outside of rent and food will burn a hole in their pocket until it is spent on shoes, makeup etc. i'm not criticizing them just telling it like it is. at the same time there are exceptions to every rule and i know a couple of girls that save money but they are far and few between.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1527886]How many times does this have to be talked about on here? Small amounts of drugs are legal Colombia. There are plenty of articles discussing this on the internet and I have posted some on this site. Just google "drugs legal Colombia".

Artisttyp, you are not serious about taking the word of a drug dealer over the infinite amount of information on the web. I am going to be here for 5 of the next 7 months. Next time I walk by the police station I will stop in and talk with them about this so we can clear this up once and for all.[/QUOTE]IMNSHO. It really doesn't matter legal or not. This is Colombia. You won't get a straight answer anyway and if you do, are you really going to chance that it holds up in a "pinch"? Pun intended.

I know 1 foreigner personally and I know of 3 others who are currently in the hoosegow for drug related something or other. All 4 say they were set up by the cops, one says he could have paid out but didn't have the money. Yes larger quantities were probably involved. Planted? Even 3 are lying and only 1 of the 4 was a set up, I am not taking that chance.

Do what you want. My bottom line, have the stuff delivered by from a trusted friend / source, don't carry in the street and do it in the comfort of your own home. This advice was given to me years ago by US law enforcement family member. I know we are talking Colombia but it is just not worth the risk of doing time, even a little, missing a flight back home or losing your job.

If you do have tickets for Pink Floyd under the stars in Santa Elena make your girl or someone else carry. You buy. Or buy it there.

Play it safe is my motto, regardless of the "law".

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1528687]If you want to help Joe just tell him about your experiences as a monger and tell him to stop wasting his time in American strip joints.

You probably didn't get a response to your question about banking because experienced mongers know that 99. 9999% of working girls in Colombia won't follow your advise if it is handed to them on a silver platter so they didn't want to waste their time, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.

Banking in Colombia is very similar to the USA with the exception that their is nothing like FDIC, your money is not insured, if the bank goes tits up you are screwed. A girl can open up a savings account and once she has a few bucks she can buy something equivalent to C. D. 's and earn about 4. 5.

Colombians, men or women are "yes" people, they don't like to argue or disagree so you will get many girls who will listen to your pitch and agree with what you are saying but at the end of the day the money outside of rent and food will burn a hole in their pocket until it is spent on shoes, makeup etc. I'm not criticizing them just telling it like it is. At the same time there are exceptions to every rule and I know a couple of girls that save money but they are far and few between.[/QUOTE]So if they have an all cash income they don't need to pay income tax in Colombia?

I agree most girls cannot and will not save money but if I care about their well being I will tell them what I think they should do and why. And by the way I am not pitching them I am just a temporary friend w / a big mouth. Some people keep things like this to themselves and others will offer advice, I'm in the latter group.

One last thing, the reason there was no response to my original request is because most mongers only care about themselves and their buddies. They are hardened just like the pussy they sometimes complain about.

I think your input has been really helpful, I appreciate it bro.

So no income taxes in Colombia?

Is the Manizalles action any good? How many casas, strip clubs, Freelancers, etc are there?

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1528687]If you want to help Joe just tell him about your experiences as a monger and tell him to stop wasting his time in American strip joints.

You probably didn't get a response to your question about banking because experienced mongers know that 99. 9999% of working girls in Colombia won't follow your advise if it is handed to them on a silver platter so they didn't want to waste their time, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so...[/QUOTE]I am going to comment on a few of the recent posts here.

First, I want to apologize to Artisttyp. I was commenting on someone else's post yet I put your name there? I don't know what I was thinking. You are correct, in that, this is Colombia. If they want to bother you they can. I couldn't be happier with the police situation in Medellin specifically. In my eyes they don't even exist. It is just like with the girls. Once you get the right mindset you will be ready to deal with the police if a problem arises. I would like to find out the official law though.

I agree with the post above with regards to girls and money. One thing I look for in my regular girls is financial discipline. I have found a strong correlation between no financial discipline and nagging. Don't nag them either. You won't be able to change these girl's financial habits.

As far as changing the habits of Americans I say good luck. I have not motivated one person to visit me that had not already traveled abroad. You can open the door to the prison and they won't walk out. They are content so I just leave them be. The first question I ask now is,"Have you traveled abroad?" If they say no I end it right there.

I have found that Colombians are "yes" people, to some extent, but I think that foreigners ask leading questions. I think the quality of the answer you get will depend mostly on the way you ask the question along with the IQ of the person that you ask.

VJ

[QUOTE=Socker; 1528741]So if they have an all cash income they don't need to pay income tax in Colombia?

I agree most girls cannot and will not save money but if I care about their well being I will tell them what I think they should do and why. And by the way I am not pitching them I am just a temporary friend w / a big mouth. Some people keep things like this to themselves and others will offer advice, I'm in the latter group.

One last thing, the reason there was no response to my original request is because most mongers only care about themselves and their buddies. They are hardened just like the pussy they sometimes complain about.

I think your input has been really helpful, I appreciate it bro.

So no income taxes in Colombia?

Is the Manizalles action any good? How many casas, strip clubs, Freelancers, etc are there?[/QUOTE]Socker,

I hope you don't think I was advising against you trying to give the girls some financial advise or even life lessons, I wasn't. I am just saying that it has been my experience that though they will sit there and show concern and interest in the subject at the end of the day they aren't going to heed the advise, the majority of Colombians for generations have lived hand to mouth their entire lives, it is embedded in their culture.

Yes, there is income tax in Colombia, I never really thought of the possible implications of a girl that earns all her money in cash dumping it in a bank account before answering your question. There are many ways around it just like in America but I'm not getting into it on a public forum.

Manizales is a great city and I make it my part time home, soon to be full time. It is home to the most colleges and universities per capita than any city in Colombia which means college girls by the shit ton, if you are young enough and have the game to pull non pros it is heaven on earth, I'm too old for that.

As far as casas and strip clubs there are four or five clubs in el centro but it is dangerous as hell at night, only travel from one to another by taxi, no exceptions. It makes el centro in Medellin look like Disneyland. I have only found one casa in nine years of going there and it closed but it was a gold mine and a half, the mamason had an "inventory" that was off the chain. I don't really monger in Manizales anymore as I have a novia and a few special "friends" and prefer not to crap where I sleep if you know what I mean. Pereira is a great city and a good place to monger but again, don't walk around at night.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1528757]Socker,

I hope you don't think I was advising against you trying to give the girls some financial advise or even life lessons, I wasn't. I am just saying that it has been my experience that though they will sit there and show concern and interest in the subject at the end of the day they aren't going to heed the advise, the majority of Colombians for generations have lived hand to mouth their entire lives, it is embedded in their culture.

Yes, there is income tax in Colombia, I never really thought of the possible implications of a girl that earns all her money in cash dumping it in a bank account before answering your question. There are many ways around it just like in America but I'm not getting into it on a public forum.

Manizales is a great city and I make it my part time home, soon to be full time. It is home to the most colleges and universities per capita than any city in Colombia which means college girls by the shit ton, if you are young enough and have the game to pull non pros it is heaven on earth, I'm too old for that.

As far as casas and strip clubs there are four or five clubs in el centro but it is dangerous as hell at night, only travel from one to another by taxi, no exceptions. It makes el centro in Medellin look like Disneyland. I have only found one casa in nine years of going there and it closed but it was a gold mine and a half, the mamason had an "inventory" that was off the chain. I don't really monger in Manizales anymore as I have a novia and a few special "friends" and prefer not to crap where I sleep if you know what I mean. Pereira is a great city and a good place to monger but again, don't walk around at night.[/QUOTE]

Jaja, thanks for the info. I have a buddy that also likes Manizalles and lives there a significant amount of time, someday I'll check it out.

In the states you can't put a significant amount of money in the bank and watch it grow legally. By significant I mean adding funds over a 5 year period that will accumulate.


If I don't have the answer to the government requirements on income tax laws then I can't exactly encourage a hooker to save her money. Oh well, life goes on.


Independent Contractor I guess would do it. What would the tax liability be from a cash business/independent contractor. Does a independent contractor need a license? If prostitution is legal then they should have a right to declare income. Someone should about know this.

Thanks Manizalles, great info.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1528750]First, I want to apologize to Artisttyp. I was commenting on someone else's post yet I put your name there?

VJ[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it. Actually those were my words that I placed inside the other quotation marks by mistake.

Either way I think it is a good idea to be low key whatever you choose to do.

Bien Pueda