Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1262024]. The scene is only really the bars on 136 and 104, and 3 nightclubs (HOD, Pontoon and Martini).[/QUOTE]So if I visist PP this is all I need to visit? There is no point to look elsewhere?

Thats simple enough.

Any suggestions on a cheap hotel that is girl friendly and secure in this area?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1261714]Also I like big boobs! So I would ideally prefer cute girls with nice boobs also is a big plus!

Cambodia, Bangkok or Pattaya best choice?

Off course I will get my big boob Euro girls in Germany or some place so Thailand is more for the cute girl factor. For the womenly model type I'll stick with Europe.[/QUOTE]I agree with other posters and would think Bangkok is best for what you want. Lots of great young girls in massage places that are able to be taken out as well as done in house. Cambodia is more conservative and the numbers of girls is much lower. At the end of the day if you have a particular desire then paying an extra $20 to have it is not much. And time is money. You would find what you wanted in Bangkok much faster than In Cambodia.

Interesting, well that sure saves an extra trip to Cambodia from Thailand I guess? No point travelling to America to buy a big mac when I can get one pretty similar at home eh. So why does anyone bother with Cambodia at all? If girls are not different to LOS and LOS is better country or more exciting / interesting to visit? Some just go to Cambodia for cheapness?

Anyways suprised at the lack of interest in Pattaya, does it not have more girls? Most here saying BKK is the better choice, is that just for lookers? I think girls are more expensive in Bangkok though? And to find freelancer one most go to expensive discos in random areas of town? Pattaya its all walking street etc. All walking distance, can't get lost really. When I had been few days before in BKK, apart from Nana and soi cowboy, I found the discos I went to via taxi ended up all over the city and no clue where I was at all. Pretty dodgy actually. Though one can also pick up freelancers outside Nana but they are usually not so pretty / safe as disco freelancers?

[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1262297]Interesting, well that sure saves an extra trip to Cambodia from Thailand I guess? No point travelling to America to buy a big mac when I can get one pretty similar at home eh. So why does anyone bother with Cambodia at all? If girls are not different to LOS and LOS is better country or more exciting / interesting to visit? Some just go to Cambodia for cheapness?

Anyways suprised at the lack of interest in Pattaya, does it not have more girls? Most here saying BKK is the better choice, is that just for lookers? I think girls are more expensive in Bangkok though? And to find freelancer one most go to expensive discos in random areas of town? Pattaya its all walking street etc. All walking distance, can't get lost really. When I had been few days before in BKK, apart from Nana and soi cowboy, I found the discos I went to via taxi ended up all over the city and no clue where I was at all. Pretty dodgy actually. Though one can also pick up freelancers outside Nana but they are usually not so pretty / safe as disco freelancers?[/QUOTE]

People mostly visit Phnom Penh on their way to Angkor Wat. Also for visa runs from Thailand. Not worth going to just for girls.

Some people really prefer Pattaya and enjoy it more than Bangkok. There are definitely more girls there. But for me it's just a little too mercenary.

In Bangkok there are a fair amount of freelance disco places within walking distance of Nana and Cowboy. Climax, Nana Liquid, Biergarten, Bangkok Beat, Insomnia, Thermae, etc. You don't need a taxi for any of those places.

I arrived in PP on the 22nd at 4pm from Bangkok. The first night I stayed at the Flamingo Hotel. It was $25 with a free airport pick up. I had done an e-visa. When I got off the plane and entered the immigration area there were many people in the lines to get the visa on arrival. So for me there was no wait at all because I already had the visa. But when I got outside and met the driver I had to wait because he was waiting for 2 more people who must have had to get the visa on arrival. It took them an extra 25 or 30 minutes to come out. I spent the time getting a SIM card from Smart. It was $1 for the SIM and I bought an extra $5 credit. It only costs 7 cents/minute to call most countries. When I left the country I still had $4.35 on the card despite having made several international calls. The Smart guy ended up waiving the $1 for the SIM because he could not find any change from any other vendor in the airport. My lesson from this was to make sure I kept plenty of $1 bills on me.

The Flamingo Hotel was fine for me. The in-room wifi was much faster than what we have in my apartment building in Pattaya. I was able to download many torrents in a couple of hours that sometimes take me days here in Thailand.

After reading CowboyBebop2011's report on the Blue Tongue Hotel I wanted to stay there as well. My first stop was to go over there and made a reservation for a superior room at $35. The morning of the 23rd I went to Siem Reap and came back on the 25th and stayed at the Blue Tongue for one night. They upgraded me free to a deluxe room which is priced at $38. I was in room 401. It had a big window with a view of Pontoon and the Sports Bars.

It was a great room, but there were two things I did not like about it. It advertises itself with the best showers in SEA. I guess that is because it has the rain shower head, the same type I have in my house back in the States. However, I like a very hot shower and the water was not as hot as I am used to. Maybe it is because they have a central water heating system and do not have the individual shower water heaters that you find most places in Asia. The next day before I left the water was a little hotter than the night before though. The other thing I did not like was that the rooms have blinds and no curtains. In this case having a big window was actually a hinderance. As soon as the sun came up the room was lit up like a Christmas tree. It did not help at all that I had fallen asleep right before dawn with my HOD pickup. (HenryV's report from last year says they emailed telling him no guests allowed. Maybe they had a change of heart since then to get more business.)

Going back to the airport I took a tuk-tuk. I had arranged for him to take me to the the Genocide Museum at 11am, wait there for me, take me back to the hotel to eat and pick up my things, and take me to the airport at 3pm for $13.

[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1262358]People mostly visit Phnom Penh on their way to Angkor Wat. Also for visa runs from Thailand. Not worth going to just for girls.[/QUOTE]I second that GB. The way I worked it was I arrived in the late afternoon and went to the club at night. The next morning I took the bus to SR. When I came back a couple of days later the bus got me to PP at 1pm. I checked into the hotel and had the same tuk tuk who brought me from the bus station take me to the Killing Fields. I came back and took a nap. I got up and had a tuk tuk take me to all of the mongering places around the city (I missed out on the brothels though unfortunately). The next morning I went to the Genocide Museum. After that I went to the airport. I don't know what I would have done in PP during the daytime had there not been those couple of sites to see. I really enjoyed the girls and I found them to have great attitudes (despite them not warranting any "double-takes" as chicks in Thailand make me do all day every day) and I would love to hit Heart and Martini again. But being bored out of my mind in the daytime I could not take.[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1262358]Some people really prefer Pattaya and enjoy it more than Bangkok. There are definitely more girls there. But for me it's just a little too mercenary.[/QUOTE]P.S. The girls in the Pattaya discos are not at all mercenary. (I don't do the bars and gogos - maybe that is the case there.) I went to Lucifer last night and decided to go with the girl who "chose me." We came back to my place and the first thing she said was, "Let's talk business. How much..." I cut her off right there. The disco girls next to never mention money. And to wait until getting home to do it was the first that I had experienced. I told her to let's just have a good time and not talk about money. From there it was on. She set her alarm for 8:30 because she had to go home and change clothes to be at work at 10. She works in accounting at some condos in Jomtien Beach. We ended up not getting up until 9:30 and I had to go to the ATM to get her 1000 baht and take her directly to work wearing her club clothes. I had to let her off my bike at a spot where the people she works with would not see. After I dropped her off she sent me a text saying, "I like your toys and you darling."

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1262376]P.S. The girls in the Pattaya discos are not at all mercenary. (I don't do the bars and gogos - maybe that is the case there.) I went to Lucifer last night and decided to go with the girl who "chose me." We came back to my place and the first thing she said was, "Let's talk business. How much." I cut her off right there. The disco girls next to never mention money. And to wait until getting home to do it was the first that I had experienced. I told her to let's just have a good time and not talk about money. From there it was on. She set her alarm for 8:30 because she had to go home and change clothes to be at work at 10. She works in accounting at some condos in Jomtien Beach. We ended up not getting up until 9:30 and I had to go to the ATM to get her 1000 baht and take her directly to work wearing her club clothes. I had to let her off my bike at a spot where the people she works with would not see. After I dropped her off she sent me a text saying, "I like your toys and you darling."[/QUOTE]

Yeah agreed. I've been to Pattaya 5 times, and have only met 3 girls I really liked. They were all from discos.

The gogos are good to visit for fun, but the girls have attitude and aren't worth taking home. Pattaya can bring out the worst in people.

[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1262358]People mostly visit Phnom Penh on their way to Angkor what. Also for visa runs from Thailand. Not worth going to just for girls.

Some people really prefer Pattaya and enjoy it more than Bangkok. There are definitely more girls there. But for me it's just a little too mercenary.

In Bangkok there are a fair amount of freelance disco places within walking distance of Nana and Cowboy. Climax, Nana Liquid, Biergarten, Bangkok Beat, Insomnia, Thermae, etc. You don't need a taxi for any of those places.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks I will google these. And most are free entry?

[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1262473]Ok thanks I will google these. And most are free entry?[/QUOTE]Yes, except for Climax

[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1262617]Yes, except for Climax[/QUOTE]Hi Senior Member : I am making a quick dash to PP in the 1st week of May : what is the best quality girl-friendly hotel as near as possible to the Riverfront Bar area Sir?

I see that Bougainvillier Hotel is very popular but it tends to get hot due to inadequate aircon & also no elevator.

The Lux Hotel has also been suggested by my forum friends.

Any inputs Sir? Thanks so much

Best location and best value is the amari watergate in st 136 next to luxe. For the front rooms with balcony, a little noisy but less than $30 excellent value.

Inside rooms without a window only $18.

Safe and clean rooms.

Cambodia is a conservative society and the bars reflect this.

But there are many beautiful girls and one must ask them about the ground rules early on.

I have been here a long time and I always ask the girls if they like sex-most don't.

However some are lying to cover for their culture.

Try the bars on st 110, there are five I think and there are keen girls there, st 118 has similar bars.

Generally khmer girls don't like blow jobs, as many girls didn't in Thailand a generation ago.

Khmer girls all want to get married and have kids, they are not professionals like the thai.

This is the appeal for many of us.

Khmers are loving and loyal.

[QUOTE=Phil Istine; 1263517]Best location and best value is the amari watergate in st 136 next to luxe. For the front rooms with balcony, a little noisy but less than $30 excellent value.

Inside rooms without a window only $18.

Safe and clean rooms.[/QUOTE]I just love the name! Memories of Tricky Dick.

Thanks so much Sir P. I.

[QUOTE=SailSingapore;1262665]Hi Senior Member : I am making a quick dash to PP in the 1st week of May : what is the best quality girl-friendly hotel as near as possible to the Riverfront Bar area Sir?[/QUOTE]Well I don't know about quality (no elevator) but the other services, location and price was right for a place called BJ's House. Met a Khmer w / big boobs at a nearby bar and spent two days with her, most of it with my dick in her mouth or pussy. She gave a great massage, too. Not a looker but quite a lover. Got the room dirt cheap through agodadotcom.

Is this place as safe as Bangkok etc. NO better no worse in terms of crime, petty theft or other serious / minor crimes?