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Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.

[QUOTE=Sobaje;2082717]Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.[/QUOTE]Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.

[QUOTE=Sobaje;2082717]Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.[/QUOTE]Spend one night at Soi Cowboy and one night at Nana Plaza. Choose a hotel in between (they are 25-30 minutes walking distance from one another) and you can actually go back and forth each night if desired. It also allows you to visit Thermae, various after-hours clubs, BJ bars, etc. Very easily. This is a highly trafficked tourist area as well so good for a comfortable layover.

[QUOTE=LordBastian;2082619]2500-3000 THB for bar and tip for "long time hanging out" is negotiable. But usually the same as the bar fine. You can usually talk them way down from that though. Just remember, you're not paying them for spending time with you. You're paying them to leave. Quietly.[/QUOTE]I guess you haven't been to Thailand for quite a few years then. There is no BF for street walkers.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2082828]There is no BF for street walkers.[/QUOTE]Damn, I've been getting ripped off then. I have been meeting girls in the streets, then walking into the nearest bar and handing the mamasan there 700 baht.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2082828]I guess you haven't been to Thailand for quite a few years then. There is no BF for street walkers.[/QUOTE]Actually, LordBastian's reply was accurate if we're talking about the Coyote girls working at places like Coyboy2 Bar on Soi Cowboy and a few others. But for most other girls there and other bars the barfine part of it is much less than those amounts. On the other hand, I don't think there was ever a time even in the distant past when a barfine was required to take a freelancer off the street.

Come to think of it, the original poster posing the question did not stipulate which P4P method he was referring to or any P4P method at all for that matter. So I suppose it is possible he was talking about joiner fees at the hotel even in the case of taking a girl there he met on ThaiFriendly or at the mall who is not expecting to get paid directly for sex at all.

I would simply ask him those questions in order to shake out the vagueness of his post and gain clarity but I fear infringing on his personal bias on such definitions merely to cater to my own extreme conclusion desires.

[QUOTE=TheManMan;2081741]Can any "expert" explain to me what really differentiates something like Honey Bee Massage, which offers a full range of services including baths, nuru, and full service vs. A "soapy" like Annies? It seems soapy's only benefit is more selection (fishbowls + models). Other than that, it seems a place like Honey Bee Massage offer similar packages. What makes it a massage parlor vs. A soapy?

And an additional question regarding a service description at Honey Bee. There full service package says: "The price is All Inclusive (with a happy ending massage and full service massage)". Does this mean you get two shots (BJ in beginning and full service at end? Or are they just implying FS at the end.[/QUOTE]The general idea is the same. Offer massage services but it's all just a front for sex. This new expansive massage menu gimmick that the newer shops use is a way to set prices for various options but when you go to the shop they more or less present it as either HJ. BJ - FS with each having a different price level. Of course they also have all inclusive options that are supposed to mean multiple shots but I've found that majority of the ladies are not as eager to do so and will not make an effort to go the extra mile like the old school MPs. If you want more than one you have to be a little pushy and make sure you tell them upfront.

The service itself is also not PSE or even GFE in most cases. Its often quite clinical but YMMV.

The ladies working at the new shops do tend to be a little younger and there are a few cuties but not enough to make up for the difference in experience.

[QUOTE=TheManMan;2081741]Can any "expert" explain to me what really differentiates something like Honey Bee Massage, which offers a full range of services including baths, nuru, and full service vs. A "soapy" like Annies? It seems soapy's only benefit is more selection (fishbowls + models). Other than that, it seems a place like Honey Bee Massage offer similar packages. What makes it a massage parlor ...[/QUOTE]The difference between a Soapy and an Oily is perfextly blurred by Annies, hardly a true traditional Soapy.

True Annies has the famous Soapy style aquarium filled with ladies, but no it is wrong. In a true soapy you should be able ti view ladies behind the glass for as long as you like, or view sideline ladies seated on couches. In Annies the girls are called to the line uo more briefly just like in an Oily MP.

Soapies have large bedrooms with a large bath. Annies has small cramped rooms like an Oily.

In a large scale soapy you can sit and eat possibly with a girl for somw time before going to a room. Not in Oilies or Annies.

In soapies the girl wastes a lot if time cleaning you in the bath. This is unlikely in an Oily. In annies I am not sure.

Most Soapies don't provide much of a massage unless you chose a girl from the Booran ancient healing amssage section.

A lot of oilies these days can provide a soapy bath or body slide experience so the differences dim.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2083190]The difference between a Soapy and an Oily is perfextly blurred by Annies, hardly a true traditional Soapy.

True Annies has the famous Soapy style aquarium filled with ladies, but no it is wrong. In a true soapy you should be able ti view ladies behind the glass for as long as you like, or view sideline ladies seated on couches. In Annies the girls are called to the line uo more briefly just like in an Oily MP.[/QUOTE]Can any experts recommend a nice fishbowl location (unlike Annie's) where there isn't a rush (like the old lady manager at Annie's). A fishbow with a decent amount of ladies in them? I'd like to sit and enjoy the view before I make a selection. I'm sure others will agree that's part of the fun right?

[QUOTE=Dinotrex;2083293]Can any experts recommend a nice fishbowl location (unlike Annie's) where there isn't a rush (like the old lady manager at Annie's). A fishbow with a decent amount of ladies in them? I'd like to sit and enjoy the view before I make a selection. I'm sure others will agree that's part of the fun right?[/QUOTE]Head up to Ratchada. There are not really fishbowls anymore but many of the shops such as Merci have a lounge to sit and relax with a drink while you think and decide who and what to take. Annie's has such a small lobby, that is the main reason you are pushed to choose. Next time, try sitting at the small bar and order a drink.

What I've noticed about the different places is that the girls must sit contently in the viewing area (fish bowl) at all the soapies / massage places. Sit straight up like ladies. On the other hand, the Annie's girls are aloud to sleep, watch TV, eat, or do whatever. When a customer is seen coming up the stairs, the downstairs guy rings the buzzer and they all rush to go sit in the fish bowl. This is another main reason it seems yiu are hurried to choose.

I typically do this every 2 months when I can take a day or 2 off from work. This time the binge started at 1:30 AM on Tuesday morning.

Headed over to T-Det on Saphan Kwai. They are supposed to close at 2 AM but they turn the outside lights off and continue to oeprate. On this night there were about 30 girls. I chose WA Wa. This girl has worked in Hong Kong before in those hotels where punters can visit for 600 HKD (3,000 Baht) a pop. Her English was quite good so we got along nicely. Beautiful ass, blond dyed hair and nice bolt ONS. We flirted a little over beer and frenchfries and left about 3 AM. For others, the place was still going strong but you never know, on any given night the army or police will swoop in and force them to close. Back in the room she was a little shy. She told me it was because she was drunk. In HK, she never had to drink so she was not used to it and it was taking its toll. This started to worry me because in Sephan Kwai you must pay the bar the full fee. There is no bar fine and the lady gets all the money unless she wants to share some with the momason who introduced her to you. 2,500. Anyways, after her shower she came around and we had a very good session. Lots of positions and a good BBBJ. She had such a beautiful ass. 200 Baht taxi and I sent her on her way. She would have stayed the night but I had to wake up for a quick meeting at 7. There were good signs of a second pop in the morning if others are interested. This depends on the girl and YMMV. The girls can change here on any given day and they don't have numbers. So it's a crap shoot of who you will see on any given day. I like this.

Woke up at 7, showered and headed to my meeting. Finished, went to IHOP at Siam Paragon to refuel and headed for a massage. First, I went to check out Soi 24/1. It was dead at 12:00 noon. Only a few shops with girls but nothing caught my eye. I rounded the corner onto to Soi 26 and into SW. I must say, I was actually disgusted with the 7 girl line up. Not one girl was doable in my books. Next stop Soi 24. Only one shop was open, Mango. I did not venture inside since the 2 girls out front were horribly ugly. I then moved onto to Som's Heaven. It was almost 2. I just now realized they open at exactly 2 PM and before then, the next door restaurant uses the area for extra tables for their customers. The one thing I never like about this place is the walk of shame past all the eaters and tourists. I always look down the Soi 1st to see if I can spot any talent or my regular. This day I could not. Next time I will ask if I can use their back entrance as It would really make my life easier. At this point I was starting to give up on the idea of a massage so I headed to Soi 4 for a drink in hopes of pulling someone from one of the many beer bars. Alas, all I ended up with was heartburn from my Bacardi breezer. All the girls were old hags. Headed over to Soi 7 to check out the beer garden. Yes folks, the Soi 7 beer garden is still going strong. Next door everything is demolished but they some how have avoided being shut down. However, I wish they would because there was absolutely nothing doable inside. Onto Soi 7/1. Also nothing doable at Eden or wood bar or the other 2 noname shops. Arrived at Chrome bar to find only 4 ladies. I really felt like relaxing so opted for a Nauru in the VIP room with Fah, 2 hours for 3000 Baht. The room was ok with a bed, shower, and area for the mattress and nuru massage. Oh boy, can this girl talk. Nice little spinner body, bolt on tits but she does does not stop talking. Gentlemen, if you see her, don't let her know if you can speak Thai. Anyways, I pushed forward and finally got to the main event. The sex was quite good with multiple positions and ended with the two of us cumming together as I stimulated her clit while fucking her in miss. At this point I was exhausted from all the walking and more from her talking. She went on about everything, her cheating boyfriend, old job, parents, child, everything. Anyways, so we cleaned and and over to the bed for the last hour. I asked for a massage. Then as she talked and talked and talked I tuned her out and just enjoyed the massage for the last hour. She gave me another BBBJ too.

Next off to recharge my batteries again so I went for a beef pie and mashed over on Soi 23. Once finished, headed in CH. By this time It was about 7 PM. That's right, it's open that early guys. There were about 7 ladies on stage. I prefer this because the calm before the storm is much easier to navigate. There was a little short spinner on stage, her name was Oom. She came over and introduced her self on the way out of the change room fully naked! She did not even put her number on. I kept thinking I lucked out. My plan was to get her out of there before the madness begins so she wouldn't get distracted by all the other punters, dancing, LD, and annoying servers and Moma sons. Bought her 2 LDs and agreed 5 LT from the now 8 PM to 4 AM the next morning. I picked her early so I didn't complain. Let's just say the next 7 hours was pure bliss. Full on PSE / GFE o holds barred action. Lots of DFK, dirty talk, and BB action. Nice see cup tits that looked real but she said we're not. She really enjoys DATY and I couldn't Resort licking her non stop. After 3 pops, I let her go around 3. A little early but I couldn't do anymore, I was spent.

[QUOTE=Sobaje;2082717]Never been ina gogobar looking for your advice what area to focus for a 2 days layover.[/QUOTE]There are 3 main areas, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong. Situate your hotel between Soi 4 and Soi 23. Do one night at Soi Cowboy and another at Nana or switch it up each night by spending a few hours at each location. If I were young the 1st. On the first day, do 1ST at each and then choose a LT from either location to close your night. Repaeat again on the second day. In the past, imahabe often gone back and forth between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy 2-3 times. They are really not that far apart and can be gotten to by motorcycle taxi very quickly.

[QUOTE=JohnyJo;2082385]Does anyone know, how much it costs to take a girl for long time, to hotel from 'Nana' district?[/QUOTE]Hi, you are new to this forum, and maybe you are new to how to use a forum too. If you read the last 2 or 3 pages of this forum, you'll get the answer. A little homework will give you great knowledge from others experience.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2082921]Damn, I've been getting ripped off then. I have been meeting girls in the streets, then walking into the nearest bar and handing the mamasan there 700 baht.[/QUOTE]You have been getting ripped off, I only give 500 baht to the nearest food cart lady.

Many people have been talking about this and discussing whether or not it's a good way to meet girl for P4 P. Most talk about trying to set things up before you come to Bangkok. Well this works for the non P4 P girls, but what about the FLs? Frankly, most won't entertain a discussion with you until your on the ground. So for the FL girls, just message them 1 hour before. A premium membership is a must to eliminate the 10 minute wait time between messages and you will have access to the most popular girls that get too many messages. Anyways, here's my experience from tonight. Searched ladies 18-24 in Bangkok after midnight. Here's how the conversation went:

A. Where are you now?

B. My room.

A. Do you want to come my room?

B. How much will you give me?

A. How much do you want?

Be. 2,500 Baht ST.

A. Ok.

B. When do you want to see me?

A. Now.

B. Where do you stay?

30 minutes later, little 20 year old Da Da was in my bed. What a site. She brought her university uniform to model for me. What a true GFE. Multiple positions, very vocal, a lot of DFK, and no mention of a cover. Natural C cups, beautiful tanned skin, decent English skills, just a real sweetheart. We banged for a good 90 minutes. She rode cowgirl like a champ and she's multi orgasmic so for those of you who think TF is a waste of time, please remember these main points.

1. Search in the late evening.

2. Buy premium.

3. Be direct and polite.

4. Send messages to profiles without long profile notes. The P4 P girls will not bother writing anything of substance. Mine tonight wrote:

Who is interested in this student?

Photo from her TF profile attached.

If any well respected senior would like her contact, I'd be happy to oblige. If you don't post on the Thailand forum, then forget it.