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Several days ago about 800 Russian serviceman went through 1. 4 meters in diameter 15 km gas pipeline to Sudzha which led to a collapse in Ukrainian ranks in the region.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;2988465]Another crack of BS. Europe is not collapsing. Europe, in fact, is doing fine. Weaning off the Russian energy needle is the best thing that's happened to Europe in the last 50 years. <<.
You sound like someone with his head up his ass, because that is what you precisely are. You clearly have no idea what is going on in Europe if you think it's "doing fine".
With reference to your persistent anti-semitism smear, you reveal yourself to be one of those racist, Palestinian hating, neo colonisers who think it's ok to steal and occupy people's land and massacre their people. Are you the same hypocrite who protests about Russia's war on Ukraine, or am I mixing up my fuckwits?[/QUOTE]My response was once again lost in moderation and I don't feel like rewriting it all over again in its entirety, so here are two brief points.
1. Throwing pointless insults around is a sign of weakness, not strength. If you claim that I have "my head up my ass" it's not unimportant to explain why. You did an awful job in this department.
If Europe is not doing fine due to severing energy ties with the Russia Failed Fascist Mafia State, please be more specific. High energy prices don't tell me much, maybe because my ConEd prices have skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years without any wars (and the greedy bastards are planning on doubling them again this year).
2. If you're upset about being called an anti-Semite, stop using anti-Semitic tropes on public. Masking your canards under the guise of so-called antizionism is a very long and tired parlor trick. Anyone can see you coming from a mile away.
[QUOTE]Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitic, in intent or effect, as it invokes anti-Jewish tropes, is used to disenfranchise, demonize, disparage, or punish all Jews and/or those who feel a connection to Israel, equates Zionism with Nazism and other genocidal regimes, and renders Jews less worthy of sovereignty and nationhood than other peoples and states.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/anti-zionism[/URL]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2989060]It was not jealousy. Trump in his first term asked why you all are sending money to Russia versus buying it from the USA when the USA is paying for your defense from Russia?
You Europeans thought he was stupid because USA LNG was much more expensive but then the war happens, and Trump was proven right.
I thought Biden blowing up Nordstream was dumb, but what is the point of our giving aid when Europe kept buying Russian gas?
I really do not care what Europe does in the future with Russian energy. Thing is though if you are going to buy it again, then the USA definitely needs to check out of NATO.
I was envious of France's nuclear program and then it was just one dumb thing after another. Solar in Germany? Russian gas? Europe's energy program has made no sense to me. You all need to sit those climate change weirdos on the sidelines.[/QUOTE]When Russia show they are as weak army as Putin is crazy, weak Ukrainians even succeeding to shoot Mockba when so far from war, Europe except Orban we don t care about, have to become without USA and let USA apart with their crazies we can t trust. High level market is Europe, when the USA fall with inflation start under Trump who knows nothing about economics and most of the world and many in USA hate. USA should become one of the most hated country, competing now with the worst.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2989137]My response was once again lost in moderation and I don't feel like rewriting it all over again in its entirety, so here are two brief points.
1. Throwing pointless insults around is a sign of weakness, not strength. If you claim that I have "my head up my ass" it's not unimportant to explain why. You did an awful job in this department.
If Europe is not doing fine due to severing energy ties with the Russia Failed Fascist Mafia State, please be more specific. High energy prices don't tell me much, maybe because my ConEd prices have skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years without any wars (and the greedy bastards are planning on doubling them again this year).
2. If you're upset about being called an anti-Semite, stop using anti-Semitic tropes on public. Masking your canards under the guise of so-called antizionism is a very long and tired parlor trick. Anyone can see you coming from a mile away.
[URL]https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/anti-zionism[/URL][/QUOTE]My response was once again lost in moderation .
I wonder why.
If Europe is not doing fine due to severing energy ties with the Russia Failed Fascist Mafia State, please be more specific. High energy prices don't tell me much, maybe because my ConEd prices have skyrocketed in the last 10-12 years without any wars (and the greedy bastards are planning on doubling them again this year).
Read your question twice, and the first sentence seems to be drivel. Disinclined to read it again. To indulge you, Germany and UK are doing badly from not just energy security and terrible choices over decades. Europe as a whole is doing badly economically, demographically, and socially. What have I not covered?
2. If you're upset about being called an anti-Semite, stop using anti-Semitic tropes on public. Masking your canards under the guise of so-called antizionism is a very long and tired parlor trick. Anyone can see you coming from a mile away.
ADL? You trot out the ADL to make your "point"? What else are you going to trot out next? A nazi to defend against criticisms of anti-nazism? The communist party's manifesto to defend against criticisms of Communism? A Russian government spokesman to defend against criticism of Russia?
Israel is a tyrannical neo colonist state which occupies and oppresses the Palestinians and your hypocrisy in condemning the Russians for the same whilst excusing the Israelis is morally obscene. I don't care what you call me- just know: no free shots, hero.
[QUOTE=Questner;2989111][URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-makes-100-square-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/[/URL]
Several days ago about 800 Russian serviceman went through 1. 4 meters in diameter 15 km gas pipeline to Sudzha which led to a collapse in Ukrainian ranks in the region.[/QUOTE]As we all know, the best lie always has its origins in truth, so let's cut through Questner's.
Two things have happened during a short period of time.
1. "Genius" Russian military tacticians sent roughly 800 servicemen to crawl 12-15 km (info varies between sources) through a non-functioning gas pipeline to sneak-attack Ukrainian troops in Sudja.
2. Ukrainian troops left Sudja.
Questner used these two [B]unrelated[/B] facts to invent the lie that the attack was a resounding success and led to Ukrainian collapse.
THE TRUTH.
The Russian sneak attack was a complete disaster. The pipe hadn't been cleaned of methane--as a result, hundreds of Russian servicemen suffocated, while others were ambushed by the Ukrainians who, by the way, had well been aware of the infiltration attempt and waited for the Russians to emerge outside. After the Russians on the outside were eliminated, the exit was sealed, which probably didn't help those who stayed behind.
Contrary to Questner's lies, the operation was a pure meat assault -- the only kind Russian commanders know. The servicemen were told that the pipe had been ventilated and cleaned of gases, that all means of communications and provisions had been set. All were lies.
The worst part of this Russian callousness toward their own troops is that it was completely unnecessary. The Ukrainian units had already started withdrawing simply because the Russians managed to establish fire control over their only logistical rout, the highway from Sumy to Sudja. For Ukraine it was time to retreat or lose thousands of men.
You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;2989251]
To indulge you, Germany and UK are doing badly from not just energy security and terrible choices over decades. Europe as a whole is doing badly economically, demographically, and socially. What have I not covered?[/QUOTE]To indulge me? Did you or did you not say this: "Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices"?
First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!
Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?
Either you have nothing to back your claim up, or you're plain lazy.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;2989251] ADL? You trot out the ADL to make your "point"? What else are you going to trot out next? A nazi to defend against criticisms of anti-nazism? The communist party's manifesto to defend against criticisms of Communism? A Russian government spokesman to defend against criticism of Russia?[/QUOTE]So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:
- The Nazis.
- The Communists.
- Putin's government.
Correct?
You know, there is no need to label you an anti-Semite. You do it wonderfully on your own.
[QUOTE=Questner;2989111][URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-makes-100-square-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/[/URL]
Several days ago about 800 Russian serviceman went through 1. 4 meters in diameter 15 km gas pipeline to Sudzha which led to a collapse in Ukrainian ranks in the region.[/QUOTE]There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;2989251]
Israel is a tyrannical neo colonist state which occupies and oppresses the Palestinians and your hypocrisy in condemning the Russians for the same whilst excusing the Israelis is morally obscene. I don't care what you call me- just know: no free shots, hero.[/QUOTE]That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2989334]That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.[/QUOTE]I told we have to give a real country to Palestinians, but when loving Russia, I think our world have to get rid of Putin who is not trustable and even fuck Russians.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2989333]There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.[/QUOTE]We may as well witness the deal that has been already done to unfold and everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Telegram and public opinion agree with you, no ceasefire, as has been told in media many times over.
Russian oligarchy wants a deal where the rights of the Russian speaking in Ukraine to be restored, all right of the Orthodox church restored and properties returned (conditions onto Ukraine), half of the sanctions lifted and half of the frozen funds reopened (conditions both to EU and the US).
Ukraine has to recognize four regions plus Crimea as part of the RF. Ukraine has to amend its constitution to drop its aspirational NATO membership.
In my view Ukraine has also to become a federal state, - why not to unify and join Russia? - this way the balance will be restored. However, its not a position of political leadership as well as many others on the left and right who oppose the unification.
Again, I remain pessimistic, as I see very intimately the character of the scumbags in Kiev.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2989333]There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.
Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.[/QUOTE]Of course, he would. How otherwise would he explain Russian warmongers that not a single announced objective of this war has been achieved, LOL?
Besides, all these Orcs accustomed to killings with impunity? I hear those few who've managed to return so far are already terrorizing the local population.
[QUOTE]During the three years of the war in Ukraine, the Russian military participating in the invasion, who returned "to civilian life", killed and maimed more than 750 citizens. At least 378 people were killed, in another 376 cases people received life-threatening serious injuries, Verstka reports, which studied court files, media reports and publications about dead servicemen.[/QUOTE]No one needs hundreds of thousands of these marauders back, least of all Putin. He must find a way to grind them all down to a manageable number.
Hence, he's going to keep the meatgrinder revving as long as he's allowed to breeze.
P.S. BTW, is it true that you guys offed your namesake Girkin? Just curious.
[QUOTE=Questner;2989340]We may as well witness the deal that has been already done to unfold and everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Telegram and public opinion agree with you, no ceasefire, as has been told in media many times over.
Russian oligarchy wants a deal where the rights of the Russian speaking in Ukraine to be restored, all right of the Orthodox church restored and properties returned (conditions onto Ukraine), half of the sanctions lifted and half of the frozen funds reopened (conditions both to EU and the US).
Ukraine has to recognize four regions plus Crimea as part of the RF. Ukraine has to amend its constitution to drop its aspirational NATO membership.
In my view Ukraine has also to become a federal state, - why not to unify and join Russia? - this way the balance will be restored. However, its not a position of political leadership as well as many others on the left and right who oppose the unification.
Again, I remain pessimistic, as I see very intimately the character of the scumbags in Kiev.[/QUOTE]I doubt not only Zelensky, but almost all Ukrainians would agree to join Russia and his criminal dictator Putin who killed so many Ukrainians. Ukraine is independant since 1991 and just want to keep same borders than since 2014 , when was already robbed Crimea and again attacked by Putin 3 years ago. Putin stayed in KGB in his mind, but not for money. Our world have to make Russia broke, to make Putin not able anymore to make war.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2989334]That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.[/QUOTE]The issue with the loathsome hypocrites like Xpartan is that their hatred and their racist evilness garbed under their hypocritical duplicity is the cause of the suffering of very many people.
We are asked to weep for the holocaust of jews (even though it was 80 years ago and nothing to do with us whatsoever) and every year there's yet another holocaust movie, yet when Israels and the zionists in general are committing a holocaust on the Palestinians, the mere criticism of Israel is "anti semitism".
These evil monsters weaponise their history to commit wickedness in the present. Who will stand up to these monsters?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2989326]You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.
To indulge me? Did you or did you not say this: "Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices"?
First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!
Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?
Either you have nothing to back your claim up, or you're plain lazy.
So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:
- The Nazis.
- The Communists.
- Putin's government.
Correct?
You know, there is no need to label you an anti-Semite. You do it wonderfully on your own.[/QUOTE]First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.
Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!
Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?
You are an ignoramus, who doesn't know that he is an ignoramus. YES, energy prices in UK and Germany but especially the UK are having catastrophic impact on people's livelihood. You are too dumb to know or care, but people in the UK are literally facing the choices of heating or eating, with either the highest or one of the highest energy prices in the world, something like 3 x what Americans pay. It is unbearable for very many people despite the government subsidising these heavily, and were the subsidy removed most of UK would be in the dark. Speaking of which there is constant talk of the lights being switched off possibly because of energy issues. Meanwhile German industry is on its freaking knees! The You are talking out of your ass, I mean it's literally like talking to a freaking moron!
Oh BTW, just today, there's an article on how parts of UK are poorer than Malta and it looks to get worse. Look I could speak entire pages about how Europe is doing badl yeconomically, demographically and socially, but the fact that I even have to address this with you genuinely is astonishing, and you seriously need to deal with your moronity.
*So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:
- The Nazis.
- The Communists.
- Putin's government.
Correct?
So, there are two kinds of people in the world (actually there are more but I don't want to fry your few remaining brain cells) : those who aren't that smart but know they are not that smart, and those who aren't that smart but don't realise this. The problem with people in the latter category to which you belong is that you may as well be talking to a goat. Your misapprehension is a logical fallacy- given the likelihood that you're not a Harvard Philosophy alumnus it's probably be not worthwhile to explain this to you but nonetheless I feel behoven to attempt a prefunctory explanation of your imbecility: giving you an logical reasoning that appealing to a biased source on something through analogy does not mean that the components of the analogy are the same.
Since you are probably on the floor now in a jello like state I'll put it even more simply: if I say " This man is as busy as a bee" it is not to say the man = a bee.
So yes, appealing to the PRO ISRAELI ADL to defend "anti semitism = anti zionism" IS like asking a nazi to defend how "anti nazism = hatred of Germany".
The evil zionists have committed a genocide on the Palestinians and gotten away with it because of hypocrites such as you. No matter how much you try and excuse your hypocrisy that truth doesn't change.
Now kindly extract your head out of your ass and give it a wobble.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2989305]THE TRUTH.
The Russian sneak attack was a complete disaster. The pipe hadn't been cleaned of methane--as a result, hundreds of Russian servicemen suffocated, while others were ambushed by the Ukrainians who, by the way, had well been aware of the infiltration attempt and waited for the Russians to emerge outside. After the Russians on the outside were eliminated, the exit was sealed, which probably didn't help those who stayed behind.[/QUOTE]Okay, so now you are completely engulfed in Ukrainian propaganda. There is footage of soldiers SMOKING in the pipeline. The methane was pumped out, holes were cut in the pipeline, and the first soldiers moved in with oxygen tanks to make sure it was safe. There were a few who got sick and were treated. The Russians were well aware of the potential dangers of methane.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2989305]2. Ukrainian troops left Sudja. The Ukrainian units had already started withdrawing simply because the Russians managed to establish fire control over their only logistical rout, the highway from Sumy to Sudja. For Ukraine it was time to retreat or lose thousands of men.[/QUOTE]So the pipeline tactic was not necessary because Ukraine lost before then? And how does that change things in the bigger picture? They did not beat us with the pipeline trick, they beat us at regular war? That is even worse when it comes to the future of Ukraine.