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[QUOTE=AussieGuy100;1268171]long post.[/QUOTE]Thanks I see your point and it explains the differences well.
In terms of physical appearance and besuty is there much difference between Cam and Thai though. In Cambodia you can get lighter skin, bigger boobs and soemtimes Viet girls?
Or do most find a higher volume of attractive girls in Thailand scene?
Hello Gents,
Going to Phnom Penh in a couple of months for a few days. Never ever been to a Karaoke place and need some advice whether they are worth while in Phnom Penh and what action can I expect at such places. Any recommendations where to go?
[QUOTE=AussieGuy100; 1268175]Rose Bar was the original bar on Street 104 and has been going for over seven years and I would think will keep going for a while yet!
I was in there last week and was asking a few girls about their all-night rates. One girl wanted $50, a couple wanted $40, and a couple more said $40 but hinted strongly that if I was actually going to barfine them, they would drop their asking price. All information discovered for the price of one beer for me and a lady drink for the cashier (often a really good source of information). They all seemed reasonably friendly to me.[/QUOTE]Many thanks AussieGuy100 for the detailed post : I am going to PP from Singapore for some R&R from May 1-4 : shall keep ALL your street smart & very sane words in mind.
Thanks again Sir!
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1268294]Thanks I see your point and it explains the differences well.
In terms of physical appearance and besuty is there much difference between Cam and Thai though. In Cambodia you can get lighter skin, bigger boobs and soemtimes Viet girls?
Or do most find a higher volume of attractive girls in Thailand scene?[/QUOTE]How long is a piece of string? There are absolutely pant-wettingly stunning girls in both Thailand and Cambidia. The girls from Isaan in Northern Thailand are different from girls in the South, and likewise in Cambodia the girls come in all shapes and sizes. I can pretty much guarantee that you will find lots of girls that fit your taste in women. Don't get hung up about it, just book the flight to Thailand or Cambodia and start having fun!
[QUOTE=Jvdairlie; 1268414]Hello, Gents,
Going to Phnom Penh in a couple of months for a few days. Never ever been to a Karaoke place and need some advice whether they are worth while in Phnom Penh and what action can I expect at such places. Any recommendations where to go?[/QUOTE]I've been to only three Karaoke (KTV) places in Cambodia. One in Battambong, one in Sianoukville and one in Phnom Penh. I went to find out whether they were worthwhile from a 'barang' (foreigner) point of view. *
The short answer is no. They are geared entirely to the local Khmer men. A lot of them won't even let foreigners in, often claiming they are 'full'. I was refused entry at about six places.
They range from tiny places with a few girls, to huge glittering palaces with more than fifty girls, almost none of whom speak English. *
The basic procedure is you go in, choose one or more girls, get taken to a room with a big screen and deafening sound system, beers arrive plus some snacks, you choose some songs from a book, and the girl and / or you sing along to the subtitles on the screen. There are usually one or two more girls in the room with you, serving the drinks and working the music system. *
You get encouraged to drink a lot of beer and to tip everybody generously at the end of it. The locals love it, for reasons that escape me. I think it's a mini version of hell. *
What is the quality of the girls? This varies hugely from stunning to fat and ugly. But generally at the bigger and better KTV places, the girls are very attractive. KTV work is seen as more prestigious than working in a hostess bar. *
What can you do with the girls and how much is it going to cost you?
This varies from one KTV to another. From questioning the girls at the three places I went to, it seems about 50-75% of the girls will either go back to your hotel with you or some KTVs have on-site rooms available. *
At the three places they quoted me $40-50 short time and $70-100 all night. I asked whether the locals get a cheaper rate and was told no. A lot of the KTVs are aimed at wealthier locals with money to burn, hence the high asking prices. I'm sure at the very small KTVs the rates will be lower, but so will the quality of the girls. *
My recommendation if you are curious (as I was) , would be to go along to a KTV just for the experience. Check out the girls, maybe have a room and get the girl to sing a few songs, but then leave after paying for a beer and maybe tipping the girl $5. And never go back to a KTV. Head for the bars, discos and nightclubs instead. *
[QUOTE=AussieGuy100; 1268175]Rose Bar was the original bar on Street 104 and has been going for over seven years and I would think will keep going for a while yet!
I was in there last week and was asking a few girls about their all-night rates. One girl wanted $50, a couple wanted $40, and a couple more said $40 but hinted strongly that if I was actually going to barfine them, they would drop their asking price. All information discovered for the price of one beer for me and a lady drink for the cashier (often a really good source of information). They all seemed reasonably friendly to me.[/QUOTE]You are right. I tend to make massive generalizations. Especially when something bad happens. Another friend that went there told me he only had good experiences there and that I should give them another go. Maybe next time I spend more on lady drinks to find out which one actually is interested in going with me.
I wonder if Pitstop still has the great girl called Annie working there. She really took care of me and is lots of fun. Pretty average body but makes up for it with her attitude.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1268127]I'm a bit disheartened to hear about so many people having such a bad time in Cambodia. I have to say that at times the level of ignorance and intolerance that many of the people show nearly drives me to violence, but I really dig the women. Out of the few countries I have mongered in Cambodia remains the only one where I can take 3 girls in a day and still want another if it's before 10pm. Something about the women just does it for me.[/QUOTE]Was in PP January 2011 for a few days and was not overly impressed with the "Looks" of the local gals so I did not get any Action there.
I've just re-discovered these comments. They hit the nail on the head as far as having more success in Phnom Penh bars. Yes it takes a tiny bit of effort, but the rewards are worth it. As I've also said before, if you can't be bothered making these small efforts, go to Thailand for no hassle sex.
[QUOTE=Qxeau; 1256060]Wendella makes a very good point. I've been coming to PP on and off for about three years now. If you dress half decently, have a warm and friendly attitude and try and have some fun with the girls, I find it very easy to hook up with attractive girls any time. Shave (if you are normally clean shaven) before you go out. Any girl prefers smooth to rough. Especially if there is a chance she will let you downstairs. Brush your teeth or carry mints. Works wonders. Basic hygiene and grooming will almost guarantee a better quality experience. Seriously. The number of slobs I see around town is amazing. These girls might be for hire but they have standards too. A little respect goes a long way.
The other thing I will offer is that stingy guys get known and generous guys also get known. By this I mean when at the bar / s having drinks or food. I have found many times that a good tip with the girl behind the bar ends up in some pretty girls coming to say Hello, to me. These girls are not greedy but it seems they want to be with someone nice, not someone stingy. And that's not hard to understand.
I rarely pre-negotiate. Almost always have that discussion after the fact. Never felt like I have overpaid or been ripped off. Treating the girl well removes those issues every time.
Just my thoughts. Take 'them or leave 'them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1268762]I wonder if Pitstop still has the great girl called Annie working there. She really took care of me and is lots of fun. Pretty average body but makes up for it with her attitude.[/QUOTE]I'll head there after the Khmer new year break and let you know!
[QUOTE=AussieGuy100;1268852]I've just re-discovered these comments. They hit the nail on the head as far as having more success in Phnom Penh bars. Yes it takes a tiny bit of effort, but the rewards are worth it. As I've also said before, if you can't be bothered making these small efforts, go to Thailand for no hassle sex.[/QUOTE]The hostess bars don't have enough hot girls to make it worth my while. This is not about me being presentable (which I agree with. You do get a better experience if you dress nicely and shower) or being willing to buy some lady drinks; at least for me. Even if the drinks and LDs in those bars were free, I wouldn't go. I don't want 5 (at best) average chicks hovering around me. I'm there to find hot chicks; they have at most one.
BTW. Hot Thai go go girls are definitely not an automatic barfine though. And certainly not if you want a decent GFE.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
Bottom line for me, the hostess bars are too much hassle for too little reward (I. E, not enough hot girls) , but Heart of Darkness and Pontoon have way hotter girls.
Next trip I won't even bother with those hostess bars. They really ruined the first week of my time here.
[quote= Qxeau]Wendella makes a very good point. I've been coming to PP on and off for about three years now. If you dress half decently, have a warm and friendly attitude and try and have some fun with the girls, I find it very easy to hook up with attractive girls any time. Shave (if you are normally clean shaven) before you go out. Any girl prefers smooth to rough. Especially if there is a chance she will let you downstairs. Brush your teeth or carry mints. Works wonders. Basic hygiene and grooming will almost guarantee a better quality experience. Seriously. The number of slobs I see around town is amazing. These girls might be for hire but they have standards too. A little respect goes a long way.
The other thing I will offer is that stingy guys get known and generous guys also get known. By this I mean when at the bar / s having drinks or food. I have found many times that a good tip with the girl behind the bar ends up in some pretty girls coming to say Hello, to me. These girls are not greedy but it seems they want to be with someone nice, not someone stingy. And that's not hard to understand.
I rarely pre-negotiate. Almost always have that discussion after the fact. Never felt like I have overpaid or been ripped off. Treating the girl well removes those issues every time.
Just my thoughts. Take 'them or leave 'them.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AussieGuy100;1268852]I've just re-discovered these comments. They hit the nail on the head as far as having more success in Phnom Penh bars. Yes it takes a tiny bit of effort, but the rewards are worth it. As I've also said before, if you can't be bothered making these small efforts, go to Thailand for no hassle sex.[/QUOTE]
"Practice basic hygiene and be generous with money"...Seems like rather basic advice that's true for picking up girls in any country, and won't necessarily lead to success in Phnom Penh.
I think the thing with Cambodia is that it's less like a business transaction and more like real romance. There are some cutthroat hags to be found who just want quick cash for a quick fuck, but most of the girls want a boyfriend experience (BFE). If you give them a good one then they'll drop their prices right down for you. If you don't then they'll want the high price or won't go out with you at all.
These girls don't want to work; they want to marry. If you at least let them believe you're open to that eventual possibility, you'll have a better time.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1268902]"Practice basic hygiene and be generous with money". Seems like rather basic advice that's true for picking up girls in any country, and won't necessarily lead to success in Phnom Penh.
I think the thing with Cambodia is that it's less like a business transaction and more like real romance. There are some cutthroat hags to be found who just want quick cash for a quick fuck, but most of the girls want a boyfriend experience (BFE). If you give them a good one then they'll drop their prices right down for you. If you don't then they'll want the high price or won't go out with you at all.
These girls don't want to work; they want to marry. If you at least let them believe you're open to that eventual possibility, you'll have a better time.[/QUOTE]Now I'm confused, actually the fact that he says the girls may be "For Hire". Are we talking about trying to get prostitutes to go with them and pay them money? Shiiiiit if I'm going to make the effort to shave and dress properly, I'll go for a regular girl and not a hooker #Justsayin.
My recommendation if you are curious (as I was) , would be to go along to a KTV just for the experience. Check out the girls, maybe have a room and get the girl to sing a few songs, but then leave after paying for a beer and maybe tipping the girl $5. And never go back to a KTV. Head for the bars, discos and nightclubs instead. *[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information and recommendation Aussieguy. You have made me curious so I think I'll follow your advice and give it a go once. I read that there's a karaoke at Casa Hotel. Can anyone suggest any others worth a look?
My driver turned me on to this place, it's just down the street from the Sofitel:
[url]http://g.co/maps/782d4[/url]
It's the "U" shaped building that looks like (or could be) a large hotel. Apparently several floors of KTV. Skipped the front desk and entered through the parking garage, took the elevator to the 5th floor, there is a fishbowl with about 50 girls, half khmer and half vietnamese.
You pay $6 for an hour massage in a private room, anything else is negotiated between you and the girl. I paid $60 FS, probably too much, but the girl was smoking hot. Also, you are in a bad place to negotiate if you're already in the room, I guess you could refuse and just go for a massage only, which the girl is paid little or nothing for.
Does anyone have any info on this place, like what the name is? The name is on a gate stretching over the small side street leading to the hotel.
[QUOTE=SailSingapore;1259046]Bro Joe : what about Bourgainviller Hotel : girl-friendly?[/QUOTE]Any hotel in Phnom Penh is girl-friendly in that, they can not stop you from bringing a girl up to the room. But many of the fancier hotels require you to leave the girl's I'd at the desk, and they are super strict about it. Not to mention dirty looks from the hotel staff at the front desk. They can not stop you from bringing a girl up but they are not happy about it. Also, they make a copy of the I'd to keep with your file, so they are keeping records of what you are up to (who are they keeping records for and where do they end up)?
Another problem is that only about 10% of the girls have an I'd, a lot of them have lost theirs due to purse snatchings and the like, and it's expensive for them to replace. So you are severely limiting your choice in which girls you can take back. If you plan on bringing any girls to your hotel at all, find one without the I'd requirement. Otherwise, lots of hassles at the desk in front of other guests, walk of shame in the morning, a real pain in the ass.
If you just want a girl for short time, there are plenty of short time hotels for $5-$15 an hour. So you could stay at a fancy place, and just use the short time hotels for mongering, and nobody keeps tabs on what you are up to.