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[QUOTE=RajPatela;2860690]It's happening to me.
I thought the reports of Soi 6 girls not going with Customers was Fake News.
I can't even get to discussion of Price. They just not Interested.[/QUOTE]Especially if you are Indian, its the case. There could be some who say we are white it happened to me. But probably some 20% of white guys get turned down if they are old. But if you are Indian they will turn you down 90% if the time. Thailand is low key racist.
Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2865659]Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.[/QUOTE]I like soapies but my problem with them has been the lack of lookers and abundance of older ladies. Great that you found gems. Perhaps in my next visit I'll have a little more patience and spend more time going from one to the other.
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2865659]Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.[/QUOTE]I am right there with you. I really enjoy strolling the smaller streets and looking for something that catches my eyes in one of the smaller shops. I found a really nice 40ish MIFL in one of the shops on Beach Rd. Near 13/1. She gave me a nice massage and told me they did not give any extras, and that meant NONE. However, she did tell me she would be happy to visit my hotel room. I offered to arrange an outcall massage, she told me to just barfine her out of the shop and she would stay as long as I wished and it would save me money since I didn't have to pay for outcall massage. She stayed long enough for two FS sessions, plus a fun lunch and dinner, kissed me on the cheek and left at my request. I was an idiot and forgot to get her LINE. Went back after golf the next day and asked her to let me barfine her again. She was all smiles and her colleagues were smiling at me while I waited for her to get her things together. She has since returned home and I don't want to invite her back to Pattaya only because I don't want to have someone with me for days on end.
[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2865645]Especially if you are Indian, its the case. There could be some who say we are white it happened to me. But probably some 20% of white guys get turned down if they are old. But if you are Indian they will turn you down 90% if the time. Thailand is low key racist.[/QUOTE]Thailand isn't low key racist, it's openly racist. The lighter your skin the better you're treated. I have Thai friends both male and female that attest to this. There's a reason why so many young girls in BKK are pale white, with the nose jobs to make their noses thinner to more resemble European features. They end up with the butchered looking nose that I find unattractive but I guess the girls prefer it.
A subtle example, my recent trip to Pattaya in Sept and Oct I'd frequent a massage shop on Buakho daily for foot massage, so sitting in towards the front of the shop and able to see all the people walking by. The massage shop workers were of all ages, young and middle aged and old. Anytime a young, shirtless Caucasian Chad walked by these massage workers would go crazy hollering in Thai and banging on the window front for the Chad to come inside. It was weird to witness in person. Kind of the equivalent of the construction workers on a construction site observing a hottie walking by and the cat calls ensue. I visited this shop around 30 days and the hootin and the hollerin was reserved for only Caucasian guys.
[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2865732]Went back after golf the next day and asked her to let me barfine her again. She was all smiles and her colleagues were smiling at me while I waited for her to get her things together. She has since returned home and I don't want to invite her back to Pattaya only because I don't want to have someone with me for days on end.[/QUOTE]So why not just tell her to come for 2 days only? Instead of barfining them you can always just get them to come stay over when they finish work, which for most massage shops is 11 pm or midnight.
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2865285]I have never been to Pattaya. My understanding is that Pattaya is much cheaper than Bangkok. But, I am not looking for cheap girls. Are there high end massage parlors or gentleman clubs that I can pick girls from? Top shelf model looking girls only.[/QUOTE]The conventional wisdom is that the "top shelf" girls who look like a "model" are concentrated in the go-go clubs on Walking Street. So if your primary focus is on looks, that's where you should start. You'll pay top dollar for the barfine and the girl's fee. Long time will be almost impossible. Drinks will be expensive, and you should know some girls make enough money hustling lady drinks that they seldom go with customers. Sometimes the girl waits until you've spent serious money on drinks to disclose this. Or she claims to be having her period.
There are a handful of soapies in Pattaya. But they are nothing like the expensive lavish establishments in Bangkok, either in terms of the talent or the facilities. There are numerous storefront massage parlors all over town. You might get lucky and find a hottie in one of these places, but it's going to take a lot of shoe leather. As for "gentlemens clubs," in Pattaya that means something different than it does in Bangkok. Most of them are pretty basic bars that open early in the afternoon. They specialize in cheap drinks and raunchy girls willing to get busy in the bar or in spartan rooms upstairs at bargain prices. The GCs are popular with thrifty sex-pats and other Cheap Charlies. Probably not your cup of tea.
Go back a year in the Pattaya forum and read the reports. You'll see that the naughty boy scene in Pattaya is more downmarket than the places you frequent in Bangkok.
When I came to Pattaya in the past, I only went to Devil's Den (now closed) and one GC Club 007 soi Bongkot.
As I come in again in one in two weeks, I have two questions for the regulars:
Can I go to Windmill agogo just for the show and the atmosphere (ordering a drink of course) and can we go as a couple (with my wife).
In Pattaya are there equivalents to Bangkok massage parlors like Snowwhite and Tulip where the service is almost guaranteed for a fixed price?
Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2865659]Most of topics here are related to bargirls, GC, soi 6 , thai friendly, beach road and the whole lot. Besides that I really adore the hundreds of massage places scattered around Pattaya. Not talking about the soapies and soi honey obvious outlets but the ordinary shops and the talent one can find. Some shops have new young ladies, some have overweight milfs and even grannies. Most of them goes days without seeing a client so more yes than no you will be treated like a king. Every visit I look for these kinda shops like in the 3rd road or jomtien hidden alleys. I avoid the beach road ones, too commercial and always full with tourists. Have to say I always managed to find gems and even had FS with the price of an oil massage and few baht tips. Ingeneral and personally I find it a better thrill and exciting hunt in these shops during the day.
Excuses for my broken english guys, and well done for all contributors.[/QUOTE]I've always been a legit massage person first due to my lower back injury decline surgery I get by on massage. Living here I've lost count but hundreds if not close to a thousand. As for the extras the main location, Soi Honey, particularly with Paradise found some real gems when unexpected even a few that could easily work at a GoGo. I still remember many years ago having a fallout with my regular at a GoGo, on the way home cruise through Soi Honey at 4 am, Paradise sitting outside all alone playing on her phone 22-year, white skin. Regardless of my intent although not a legit place a decent oil before I turned over and she took off her top I said wow, those days I didn't need any help she became pretty much a regular along with two or three.
The majority of the time I never look it just happens while coming and going. Not wanting to get into looks etc. There have been times when something catches my eye in uniform or not I start with a foot massage and go from there. In conversation, at least for me I know whether they are interested in giving up more through the years I've had hit-and-miss throughout town, Jomtien, Darkside, and North Pattaya but at least come away with a foot or oil massage. The south end of 2nd Road, leading down to WS. Where I usually park my bike I've gotten a few gems I stick to the east side since there are too many Arabs and Indians on the other side for my taste.
One place that is overlooked is on Pattaya Klang, both sides close to the beginning of Soi Buakhao, whether in uniform or not I've found the most gems. Several times a year I park my bike down.
Between 3rd Road and Soi Buakhao while walking down to Soi Baukhao to check them out while they are sitting once past Soi Buakhao I cross Klang and do the other side and back to bike if nothing is found. The catch is living here I can take or leave need to put in the time.
For eye candy, I like the GoGo just to relax but that is getting really old due to the owner's need to monopolize the market. I've seen these girls at XS, and agree with others they have the best-looking girls but at my age and time, I can take or leave it a majority of the time I look and leave. I was inside Pin Up a few days ago stepped in got a prime seat, and ordered a cheap draft it wasn't the drink, but within a few minutes of getting the draft every waiter or waitress that walked by grabbed my bin to check the time I sat down was there ten minutes close to half dozen times. The Asian guy next to me was there already same thing after the lady pointed at his drink basically to ask another he declined some words were exchanged paid the bill and left.
Bacarra has always been my go-to place to have a bit of fun now I won't step into the place regardless of how many girls I might know since it opened. So today look leave and scoop out massage places so far majority FS with the oil is 1000 depending on location. Good luck hunting!
The cheap legit foot massages and cheap Thai food are actually more important to me than the fringe benefits. Not that those aren't important too it's just that the fringe benefits is not a daily thing anymore. LOL.
[QUOTE=Bunky;2865801]The conventional wisdom is that the "top shelf" girls who look like a "model" are concentrated in the go-go clubs on Walking Street. So if your primary focus is on looks, that's where you should start. You'll pay top dollar for the barfine and the girl's fee. Long time will be almost impossible. Drinks will be expensive, and you should know some girls make enough money hustling lady drinks that they seldom go with customers. Sometimes the girl waits until you've spent serious money on drinks to disclose this. Or she claims to be having her period.[/QUOTE]Did you really tell this more than likely Indian or Middle Eastern poster to start his search for top shelf models at the gogo bars on WS? Yeah um right. Good luck with making it a few steps near the club before getting pointed away by the guards.
[QUOTE=Traveler95;2865802]Can I go to Windmill agogo just for the show and the atmosphere (ordering a drink of course) and can we go as a couple (with my wife).
In Pattaya are there equivalents to Bangkok massage parlors like Snowwhite and Tulip where the service is almost guaranteed for a fixed price?[/QUOTE]Re. Windmill yes and yes. Tipping a girl a 100 here and there will get you a lot more attention.
By Snow White and Tulip I am assuming you mean skank massage places rather than just vanilla sex? Dirty girls are everywhere you just have to find them. The locale doesn't matter but if you want to increase the ease of finding a skank girl start off at BJ bars like Post Office and Telephone Booth. Definitely not the best lookers but mileage will be high. Since you used to go to 007 all the other girls on the Soi Full Love Inn BJ bars are relatively the same mileage YMMV.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2865767]Anytime a young, shirtless Caucasian Chad walked by these massage workers would go crazy hollering in Thai and banging on the window front for the Chad to come inside. .......the hootin and the hollerin was reserved for only Caucasian guys.[/QUOTE]
Was it only because the shirtless white guy was young and fit? What if the shirtless guy was the usual 70 year old hairy chested overweight white guy you see in Pattaya?
No "hootin and the hollerin" for the young Koreans and Japanese? That's odd.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2865726]I like soapies but my problem with them has been the lack of lookers and abundance of older ladies.[/QUOTE]
Have Pattaya soapies gone that downhill? In the good soapies you usually see a group of pretty decent pale skinned thin young girls in the expensive VIP section. What time do you normally hit the soapies?
I do not get ignored when I walk past massage shops. I am always and I do mean always encouraged to come in into the shop. I have been told they love me and have been offered marriage proposals. In fact, I wear mirrored sunglasses. I was riding the Baht bus and it was at a stop light. I was just looking in the general direction of a massage shop and one of the girls insisted on waving at me repeatedly. Finally I waved back and they all started laughing and giggling that she got me to acknowledge her.
I have not received different treatment from any restaurant, beer bar, gogo bar, gentleman's club nor from any girl from beach road or Thai Friendly. Please remember that they all have eyes and they can all see me. I guess the color of my Baht notes were the same as everyone else's. I have over 150 unanswered emails in the Thai Friendly mailbox. If I am being treated poorly, I have not noticed it yet.
[I]"I'm going to spread the news, that if feels this good getting used, well they can just keep on using me, until they use me up."[/I]
[B]I have been in Pattaya for almost three months. And most of my experiences do not align with things I see written here in the Pattaya Reports section. [/B]
The only racism I have experienced have been from other farrangs that were melanin challenged. And quickly let them know they were not in Kansas (or California for that matter) anymore and they better secure that bullshit. Both assholes shut the fuck up and got out of my face.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2865767]Thailand isn't low key racist, it's openly racist. The lighter your skin the better you're treated. I have Thai friends both male and female that attest to this. There's a reason why so many young girls in BKK are pale white, with the nose jobs to make their noses thinner to more resemble European features. They end up with the butchered looking nose that I find unattractive but I guess the girls prefer it.
A subtle example, my recent trip to Pattaya in Sept and Oct I'd frequent a massage shop on Buakho daily for foot massage, so sitting in towards the front of the shop and able to see all the people walking by. The massage shop workers were of all ages, young and middle aged and old. Anytime a young, shirtless Caucasian Chad walked by these massage workers would go crazy hollering in Thai and banging on the window front for the Chad to come inside. It was weird to witness in person. Kind of the equivalent of the construction workers on a construction site observing a hottie walking by and the cat calls ensue. I visited this shop around 30 days and the hootin and the hollerin was reserved for only Caucasian guys. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2865975]Re. Windmill yes and yes. Tipping a girl a 100 here and there will get you a lot more attention.
By Snow White and Tulip I am assuming you mean skank massage places rather than just vanilla sex? Dirty girls are everywhere you just have to find them. The locale doesn't matter but if you want to increase the ease of finding a skank girl start off at BJ bars like Post Office and Telephone Booth. Definitely not the best lookers but mileage will be high. Since you used to go to 007 all the other girls on the Soi Full Love Inn BJ bars are relatively the same mileage YMMV.
Was it only because the shirtless white guy was young and fit? What if the shirtless guy was the usual 70 year old hairy chested overweight white guy you see in Pattaya?
No "hootin and the hollerin" for the young Koreans and Japanese? That's odd.
Have Pattaya soapies gone that downhill? In the good soapies you usually see a group of pretty decent pale skinned thin young girls in the expensive VIP section. What time do you normally hit the soapies?[/QUOTE]Some shirtless but most in tank tops. No banging on windows for Japanese or Korean. Shit was funny to witness so many times in person. Like I see a hot girl, I stare at her and go a long on my way. These ladies literally bang on a window front when they see a hot dude, that's some weird, childish shit. But women, especially in Thailand, have a childish nature to them, there's positives and negatives to that, for me the pos outweighs the neg.
I have been back home from Thailand a few weeks now and thoroughly miss the convenience and affordability of being able to pay for ass. America is one depressing shit hole on so many levels.
When a girl in a go go tells you that she is having her period, I always tell them.
That I am ok with that and actually prefer it. Their reactions can be hysterical.
[QUOTE=Bunky;2865801]The conventional wisdom is that the "top shelf" girls who look like a "model" are concentrated in the go-go clubs on Walking Street. Sometimes the girl waits until you've spent serious money on drinks to disclose this. Or she claims to be having her period.
There are a handful of soapies in Pattaya. But they are nothing like the expensive lavish esta
Go back a year in the Pattaya forum and read the reports. You'll see that the naughty boy scene in Pattaya is more downmarket than the places you frequent in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]