Rio de Janeiro Reports

Great report! Is it USD or BRL?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2659238]Or whatever she claims her name to be! Gentleman, I told you that I would provide you with monthly reports to cover my planned limited Seeking membership. Well, here's my report for January 2022. For those of you experienced with the site, I don't have to tell you how much work it is! I must have contacted 100's and 100's of "women" already, to get only a few to respond to me on the site, followed by even fewer who I have communicated with offline by text and phone. I said "women" because the site is [B]full[/B] of fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. During my first month of membership, I met just two women in person. I was supposed to meet three, but one proved to be a perpetual flake cancelling at the last minute multiple times, so I said to hell with her. Of the other two I met, one we both agreed right off the bat, and for reasons I won't go into, that we should keep it platonic. I agreed to meet her for lunch anyway, and I'm glad I did. She was a quality girl.

Now girl number two? It was [B]bingo[/B]! Late 20's, slim, pretty long blonde hair, big round blue eyes, an attractive face, fair white skin with just the right amount of pink in it that I love so, so much, luscious milk white titties, and a nice round butt. YAY-UH! We met for dinner, and the sexual attraction between us was instant and obvious. I mean, I was getting a boner under the table looking this girl and imagining myself inside of her! After dinner, there was hugging and kissing on the lips. You know you're up in there then! But, I chose not to push it and try to have sex with her that same night. No, we were both new at this, and I felt it was best for us to end it for the night on a great note and think about it, and pick it up again if we both felt it was right. We continued to communicate by text, and agreed to get together again in about a week. We agreed to go to an event together, after which time we would have lunch and come back to my place. To make a long story short, we ended up fucking BBFSCIP! That's right [B]no condoms[/B], and I "nutted" inside of her! It's what the both of us wanted from the very start (she admitted that she wanted to fuck me on the first date too). Oh my God [B]Steve[/B]! My boy [B]Steve[/B]! WTF?

Now don't worry. Before we went there (bareback sex), it was established that she has solid birth control. She can't get pregnant. And we're both clean. So going forward, we will continue to not use condoms, and The Cane will get to enjoy "multiple shots" inside of his new, attractive, blonde, trophy, sugar baby! Without having to worry about impregnating her! I'm sure you guys want to know what the terms of the "arrangement" are. We agreed to meet at least twice a month on a pay-per-meet basis of $250 per meet! For the tier 1 market that I live in, that's a steal! Most of the attractive white girls start out asking for between $500 and $1,000 per meet. With respect to Abby, I could not have asked for anything better. She's hot and has just the look that I like, the price is right, and I'm doing her [B]bareback[/B] with no need to pull out. [B]Nut inside[/B]! Oh [B]my[/B] God! Going into this, I felt like I could have some success. But, I didn't expect so much so soon! I mean, I met Abby within the first couple of weeks on the site! Now, that said, at this point I'm still convinced that after three months on the site, that's going to be enough for me. You have to do way, way too much work wading through knee-deep bullshit to find an absolute diamond like Abby. But, I'm here to add to the others who have said that Seeking can work. You're damn skippy it can work! If you're willing to put in the work (it's a lot). [B]Steve[/B]! Got damn! [B]My[/B] man! [B]Steve[/B]!

Over and out until my February report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2659712]Great report! Is it USD or BRL?[/QUOTE]This was in the United States, so it's American dollars. If you would like to discuss further, please let's move to the Seeking Arrangements thread.

So Vagabundo ended up at 19 pops, all BBFS except for 1, for Monday to Friday.

Saturday, I am just chilling. There's another tier 1 terma girl, actually 2, messaging me to set up pernoites, and there is a swing thing tonight. We shall see.

As far as bloopers and foul balls, which is the stuff of the week in baseball, a great Saturday morning show of my youth, there was Noemie Bilas doing a classic anal upsell on pop number 2 of our pernoite. I stick it in her nice chocolate bubble butt, up her ass, and she flips over, and she is immediately like, "so it's going to be like 700" she makes the number with her fingers. And I am there, with a hardon, after my like 3 d or 4th shot of the day, and I am like, no baby, it is 300 like we agreed, but if you want, 400. So we push on with the fucking. She was fun, bent her over my balcony furniture for late night fucking under the stars of the Atlantic coast -- the pure Atlantic coast, not that polluted guanabarra bay toilet water. Went swimming in that water on Friday. Between pops with a young loira, slim, pretty, and -- you can't make this shit up -- living with some gay guy two floors up. But she likes weed, and she likes the beach, and she likes a dick in her pussy, and to 69 so we are good neighbors.

I have reached the point where I don't care. I live in the hotel California. I live well below my means by cultivating a stream of overnights with on average 4 prive girls and 2 tier 1 terma girls. Some fall out of zone, some graduate up, but I am just the dude, and the dude abides.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2659091]The Week in Baseball 14 pops, as of Thursday.

Monday, was two girls, one in a prive, one in a casa, for a total of 3 BBFS pops.

Tuesday was Anne Amari, 2 pops on a pernoite.

Wednesday was Ann Amari for 5 pops, then Noemi Bilas (a centro casa girl) for another 2 pops, for a full 7 pops. Pass the bong, lots of weed was being smoked.

Thursday so far was 2 pops with Noemie Bilas, and another 2 pops with Ana Foxxx.

So, that is 14 orgasms, all BBFSCIP except for 1 covered pop (the cover came off for an extra 100).[/QUOTE]

I was in Rio last week, wasnt easy to find a place for an Antigenic covid test, in copa posta 2 I have found a farmacia Rua Barata Ribeiro, just follow Rua Duvivier and the end of this rua just turn left and in front of you have a farmacia, quick antigenic test, result in 20 minutes in English and in portuguese no problem, cost 105 reals.

For info I was in Mabs Saturday night around 11 pm there was some nice women, I found one very nice and very sympathic but only portuguese language.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2659715]This was in the United States, so it's American dollars. If you would like to discuss further, please let's move to the Seeking Arrangements thread.[/QUOTE]I am just messing with you. Looking forward to next report.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2660140]I am just messing with you. Looking forward to next report.[/QUOTE]More Nounce! To the ounce! More Nounce! To the ounce! More Nounce! To the ounce! Get, get, get, get, get on the dance floor baby! Woo, wee, woo wee, oh yeah! [B]LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL[/B].

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OUwJbhY5Es[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2659741]So Vagabundo ended up at 19 pops, all BBFS except for 1, for Monday to Friday.[/QUOTE]This is how I need my week vacation to be. I've been following closely with this and the Medellin board and it breaks my heart that the golden days are quickly passing if they haven't already. My dream scenario would be finding what I consider a 10 with a fat ass for BBFS everyday, but time will tell if this is realistic. My plan so far is staying around the Hollywood beach area. I have like 10 places I want to visit and 10-20 online pro's saved that I consider a 8+. Might get SA 1 month out to find a young paisa to spend each day with. I still need to keep building up my facebook list.

VM. A new volleyball player mulatta 21 year old no kids, BBFS, 65 r! Superbowl mosaic.

While you lads in North America are seeking two BBFS relief sessions per month, here in Rio, the subject of this thread, Vagabundo and Caliboy headed over to VM via Metro, and we patrolled in from Sao Cristovao metro.

Many of the girls on the streets in were better than the VM girls, until.

On our second pass through the you, Vagabundo found a 21 year old super tall, no kids mulatta with natural tits, who answered all the questions right.

1. Vc ten filhos?

A: No.

2. Onde vc mora?

A: perto. Garbled.

3. Quero vc sem camisinha, sou limpio.

A: Sim, nodding head.

Up to the room, Vagabundo and oh, I guess I will call her Anya Ivy, went.

No kissing, bareback blow job, and seh was true to her word, she bent over and took it bare, and I loved banging her which I did for 20 minutes or so, and then shot a day and a half worth of cum inside her pussy, with a spurt or two outside just to demonstrate I came outside.

She has no celular. I told her I would be back to meet her, and do pernoite.

Since she is so tall and fine, I find her to be a perfect -- actually a better -- verson of belladonna, which is what I needed.

All is well in Rio. Oh, and not to question your " existential validity" to quote senor zebrastripes, but if you don't go hunting like this, you are a physical coward, spoiled by rich world amenities.

Superbowl Sunday will be at Mosaico. Stripper hoars will dance and the game will be on TV at Mosaico, confirmed face to face. RSVP with Senor Nounce, Senor JimmyBoy, or by PM, or on the whatsapp group for those on it. Contact the above to be added to the group.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2658260]It's 72 hours before boarding.

[URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/portaria-interministerial-n-666-de-20-de-janeiro-de-2022-375486913[/URL][/QUOTE]When I went in SEP to Brazil I took Latam and they stopped me because I took my test at Sunday 8 pm and the flight I was leaving on was at 9 PM Wednesday. They told me it had to be 72 HRs before the flight departure. I was at 1 HR over. Of course i explained to them that's wrong and dumb and they just told me i couldn't get on or else they would get sued or the brazilian custom would send me back anyways. Wasnt going to get anywhere arguing and would miss my flight. I got to the airport at 7 pm so I was lucky to run to the quick test site and get a test and run back to get my flight but I had no check in and had to run to make it to the gate on time. Just made it with 3 minutes before the gate closed. Stupid PCR Test takes forever to come in time where I go get tested so I did Sunday to be safe.

I think it's best to get a Qured or Emed or whatever at home test your airline accepts so you can do it in the morning and then get the results and upload without worrying about a lab to send the results in time. A quick antigen test on the same day would also be ok if you have time to do one in the morning. PCR tests sometimes take forever to get back to you.

Anyone know where I can find a good lead on RJ twitter girls. It seems SP girls are more prevalent on twitter than RJ girls. I've been looking on the usual BarrasVIP, Private55, RIOSexSite and such but trying to look for more "hidden gems" girls who don't post on those sites and just post on their twitter. I guess I'm picky but I'm having a hard time finding a girl I like in RJ. Don't have this problem in SP because the variety is much larger due to the population of course but love the RJ lifestyle more. There was a bunch of RJ girls I was looking at last time I was there but it seems most of those girls went offline, at least on those sites and some girls just gather a small regular client base and use twitter to drum up a bit more if needed. Not always but happens. For example Luna Kim who went as Sofia. She's an RJ girl who posts on Private55 and BarrasVIP but took down her post and uses twitter mainly now.

I take generic cialis and Viagra, which is cheap in centro pharmas on av uruguiana at the square with rio branco 156.

The pussy is relatively inexpensive too, compared to rich world, which as the site says, money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac.

I don't recognize the places you talk about as Rio areas (Hollywood beach? So I can't comment further.

[QUOTE=Cam442;2660217]This is how I need my week vacation to be. I've been following closely with this and the Medellin board and it breaks my heart that the golden days are quickly passing if they haven't already. My dream scenario would be finding what I consider a 10 with a fat ass for BBFS everyday, but time will tell if this is realistic. My plan so far is staying around the Hollywood beach area. I have like 10 places I want to visit and 10-20 online pro's saved that I consider a 8+. Might get SA 1 month out to find a young paisa to spend each day with. I still need to keep building up my facebook list.[/QUOTE]

Save the Date - 13 Feb Superbowl. Mosaico! Striper hoars and football!

Superbowl Sunday will be at Mosaico. Stripper hoars will dance and the game will be on TV at Mosaico, confirmed face to face. RSVP with Senor Nounce, Senor JimmyBoy, or by PM, or on the whatsapp group for those on it. Contact the above to be added to the group.

We few, we happy few, Caliboy and Vagabundo, went to Mosaico last night and got face to face with the mangement / security. Mosaico will host a superbowl party.

Credit goes to ISGer Bonhead for the idea, so thanks, good on ya. We are hoping all you mongers in town (Chege, Chaychecker, Caliboy if you can get back from Buzios earlier, Jingo, and all you lurkers out there) will come watch the superbowl and fuck a real Brazilian cheerleader substitute! (Vagabundo, being a vagabundo may just monger down to VM and fuck anya ivy for 65 reais on the down low).

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2660339]I take generic cialis and Viagra, which is cheap in centro pharmas on av uruguiana at the square with rio branco 156.

The pussy is relatively inexpensive too, compared to rich world, which as the site says, money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac.

I don't recognize the places you talk about as Rio areas (Hollywood beach? So I can't comment further.[/QUOTE]Because it's in Cartagena, LOL. Different city, different forum.

Hello friends,

I am in town as well since last Friday.

The first couple of days I've taken it slow. I had a few tinder dates and this afternoon I went to Onix Terapias at Rio Branco 156.

170 Brl for one hour, it was an ok experience, not best experience I've ever had. But there is more to come.

I'll be in town for another 2 1/2 weeks.

I am mid-forties, European and I do speak Portuguese.

Let me know if you want to hook up.

Abracos.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2660414]Save the Date - 13 Feb Superbowl. Mosaico! Striper hoars and football!

Superbowl Sunday will be at Mosaico. Stripper hoars will dance and the game will be on TV at Mosaico, confirmed face to face. RSVP with Senor Nounce, Senor JimmyBoy, or by PM, or on the whatsapp group for those on it. Contact the above to be added to the group..[/QUOTE]How can I be added to the WhatsApp group? I am a paying member but I am not able to pm senhor vagabundo1 or senhor Nounce or senhor Jimmyboy.

I would like to go to the Super Bowl event, will more details be shared here?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Geraldo2;2660750]How can I be added to the WhatsApp group? I am a paying member but I am not able to pm senhor vagabundo1 or senhor Nounce or senhor Jimmyboy.

I would like to go to the Super Bowl event, will more details be shared here?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Please check the PM I sent you.

Question about pcr test. Is it 72 hours from when you board your first flight or the second flight that actually goes to rio. My boarding time is 2 pm for first flight and my Covid test is 3:50 pm 3 days prior. That gives me a 70 hour difference, but when my connecting flight from Texas leaves it will be over 72 hours. Anyone know for sure how this will work.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2661477]Question about pcr test. Is it 72 hours from when you board your first flight or the second flight that actually goes to rio. My boarding time is 2 pm for first flight and my Covid test is 3:50 pm 3 days prior. That gives me a 70 hour difference, but when my connecting flight from Texas leaves it will be over 72 hours. Anyone know for sure how this will work.[/QUOTE]If it's the same airline like American Airlines for example it goes by the time of your first leg. But you should check the airline website, the information is there. For Rio you don't really need a pcr test because they're problematic with the timing, why don't you get a backup antigen test right before you leave. It looks like you'll be ok but it's tight.

The Week in Baseball 10 pops and counting.

So Vagabundo is sitting in the loveshack with Anne Amari, on pop #10 for the week and counting. We kind of flowed into a second pernoite because so much ganja was being smoked and naps were being taken.

You only need to find a few good fit girls.

Lots of talk about various subjects, SP v RJ, buzios and other side trips.

At the end of the day, the single best lifestyle of the rich in spirit and infamous is to live in Barra between P1 and 10 (Vagabundo is at p6 and considering p1; chege is at P7; and a ISGer who makes porn is at P1, "the only reason I stay in Brazil is barra" his words -- meaning the security in barra is good so you don't have to even worry about the phone snatches in Copa etc), from thence to metro or luxury bus to the centro prives and / or VM the top one being massagemtijuca (call ahead for jessica, joyce or jamile), trash casas, and then to do your pernoites, and to go to perola negra to get numbers and socialize, and from thence to repeat ad infinitum in Barra, where the king of Brazil, renzo gracie lives, and the prince of Brazil, papatino live, away from the sex tourist bubble of metro stops sisquera to general osorio, and away from the tourist bubble of metro stops uruguiana to sao conrado.

SP is a financial center, as senor anaggie points out, and the cost structure is higher, it is true. Fair enough. But here in Rio, where the default wealth level is 400 reais a month from bolsa famila, there are top end talent as good as SP, there are most importantly, lots of diamonds in the rough, and in the middle for the smart and disciplined market maker, there are upwardly mobile carioca hoars who want to be tier 1 terma talent and ask 1500 a night but who need 300 to make their next rent of 650 on the little love shack apartment they have in zona norte.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2661477]Question about pcr test. Is it 72 hours from when you board your first flight or the second flight that actually goes to rio. My boarding time is 2 pm for first flight and my Covid test is 3:50 pm 3 days prior. That gives me a 70 hour difference, but when my connecting flight from Texas leaves it will be over 72 hours. Anyone know for sure how this will work.[/QUOTE]It is 72 hours from your FIRST point of departure. My example is as follows from my last flight:

Flight scheduled to depart from my city on Tuesday to DFW at 747 am while the actual flight to GIG leaves at 8 pm from MIA. I took my PCR test on Saturday at 10 am which is under the 72 HR rule from the FIRST point of departure.

You can also do a 24 HR antigen test just to be sure.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2661477]Question about pcr test. Is it 72 hours from when you board your first flight or the second flight that actually goes to rio. My boarding time is 2 pm for first flight and my Covid test is 3:50 pm 3 days prior. That gives me a 70 hour difference, but when my connecting flight from Texas leaves it will be over 72 hours. Anyone know for sure how this will work.[/QUOTE]It's 72 hours before your first flight, if both legs are on the same ticket.

What do you guys think? With Covid mandates going by the wayside around the world, how long before Brazil drops its Covid test requirements for the entry of fully vaxed foreigners and how long before Biden drops test requirements completely or at least lengthens the time interval between tests and flight departures for US citizens returning to the USA from Brazil?

I. E. When is international travel going to get back to pre-pandemic normal?

I was standing out in front of Mab's the other night and this old Help chick told me $100. She must be 45 or 50 by now and has the same bob hairstyle that she had 20 years ago.

I went and fucked a photoacompanhantes chick for $24 (130 reais) instead. These chicks tickle me trying to jack the price up when they see a foreign number. She tells me the price is 150 reais. I said oh I thought it was 130. She said 130 is fine.

Life is hard in the love shack.

The hoar won't sleep.

It's 4.

She rolls over and mounts our hero, Vagabundo, a humble Swiss Naval Intelligence Officer working for the good of our democracy.

She lubes up his prick, rolls on top.

We fuck. She fucks like jiu jitsu fighters roll, pushing her forehead into Vagabundo's. She comes. She need to get in an O. She takes her pleasure from our sleepless hero.

Who is paying who?

She is 21. Nice ass. She is facially prettier than Noemie Bilas who she calls feio, ugly.

We sleep again, and at 08 h, we fuck again, BBFSCIP.

Well if you are looking for BBFS wingmen, you can PM Senor Nounce or Jimmyboy to be added to the group. We maintain a Pimp Legion of Doom. But you must be able to answer 50 cent's question.

Why? Should we let you into the Pimp Legion of Doom?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2661623]The Week in Baseball 10 pops and counting.

So Vagabundo is sitting in the loveshack with Anne Amari, on pop #10 for the week and counting. We kind of flowed into a second pernoite because so much ganja was being smoked and naps were being taken.

You only need to find a few good fit girls.

Lots of talk about various subjects, SP v RJ, buzios and other side trips.

At the end of the day, the single best lifestyle of the rich in spirit and infamous is to live in Barra between P1 and 10 (Vagabundo is at p6 and considering p1; chege is at P7; and a ISGer who makes porn is at P1, "the only reason I stay in Brazil is barra" his words -- meaning the security in barra is good so you don't have to even worry about the phone snatches in Copa etc), from thence to metro or luxury bus to the centro prives and / or VM the top one being massagemtijuca (call ahead for jessica, joyce or jamile), trash casas, and then to do your pernoites, and to go to perola negra to get numbers and socialize, and from thence to repeat ad infinitum in Barra, where the king of Brazil, renzo gracie lives, and the prince of Brazil, papatino live, away from the sex tourist bubble of metro stops sisquera to general osorio, and away from the tourist bubble of metro stops uruguiana to sao conrado..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2661839]I was standing out in front of Mab's the other night and this old Help chick told me $100. She must be 45 or 50 by now and has the same bob hairstyle that she had 20 years ago.

I went and fucked a photoacompanhantes chick for $24 (130 reais) instead. These chicks tickle me trying to jack the price up when they see a foreign number. She tells me the price is 150 reais. I said oh I thought it was 130. She said 130 is fine.[/QUOTE]I have had that happen a number of times. Their mindset is "You are a gringo, this session is really cheap for you! The dollar is strong, you can afford to pay an extra 50 R!

The BOB hairdo garota, was that Jenny. The one with like 10 kids?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2662036]I have had that happen a number of times. Their mindset is "You are a gringo, this session is really cheap for you! The dollar is strong, you can afford to pay an extra 50 R!

The BOB hairdo garota, was that Jenny. The one with like 10 kids?[/QUOTE]I did a test with another member because the girl was asking very high price. I have a Sao Paulo number. I got quoted the same price but with more service or more time right off the bat while the member with a US number got less with the same price. I also met a girl at Scandallo teaching me about inflation. LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2662115]I did a test with another member because the girl was asking very high price. I have a Sao Paulo number. I got quoted the same price but with more service or more time right off the bat while the member with a US number got less with the same price. I also met a girl at Scandallo teaching me about inflation. LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's mot so much about about foreign numbers, but about a lack of Portuguese writing skills? At least what I've seen of the members here who are "speaking fluent Portuguese" are awful in their writing skills.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2662129]Maybe it's mot so much about about foreign numbers, but about a lack of Portuguese writing skills? At least what I've seen of the members here who are "speaking fluent Portuguese" are awful in their writing skills.[/QUOTE]Thats normal. I have family members who grew up in NYC speaking Spanish but probably couldn't write it at a 3rd grade level. (I can read Portuguese 10 X better than I can write it).

Can the regulars update my terma list and Help style bars that are open in Rio now. I'm not interested in Vila Mimosa area, just the A and be places. If you could fill in the blanks that would be appreciated. I will give a trip report when I get back.

Monte Carlo, Centaurus, 4 x 4, Casablanca, 65, and Solarium.

Mabs for hooker bars is all I can remember.

It's been 10 years for me, so I'm rusty on everything. Is the beach in front of Othon Hotel still the hooker part. Also 200 reals for a girl on the beach was standard back then. Is that still good or have they jacked it up with all the inflation the last 10 years.

Once again I fuck up so you do not have to. Me and my girl are at the beach now. A guy walks by with a tray of 2 caipirinhas and 1 strawberry vodka. They are 10 reais each. My girl does not drink so 1 caipirinha for me. I pay the guy 10 and he walks off. I sip the drink and it turns out to be water, ice, sugar and lime. In other words, lemonade unmixed, no alcohol. I let my girl try and she says yep, straight water.

If you buy a drink, then buy it from a stand and not just a guy walking by. It looked so good on that tray though. But still totally worth 10 reais. We just left Outback Steakhouse where the same thing was going for 13.

I had told my girl about the Superbowl that I want to watch tomorrow. We were in the Uber coming back from Outback and passed by Mabs where you can see the projector screen from the street. She said they have a big ass TV screen at that place. Call and see if they will be showing that game. Uhhh. No.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2662246]It's been 10 years for me, so I'm rusty on everything. Is the beach in front of Othon Hotel still the hooker part. Also 200 reals for a girl on the beach was standard back then. Is that still good or have they jacked it up with all the inflation the last 10 years.[/QUOTE]Kind of in front of the Othon now and not a hooker in sight. Forget everything you knew from 10 years ago. The game is at the privees and online now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2662458]If you buy a drink, then buy it from a stand and not just a guy walking by.[/QUOTE]The caipirinha sellers on the beach is a major tourist trap.

The seller comes in cars. Just park and starts their business. They have one guy preparing the drinks in the car and a couple of friends walking around with trays selling the drinks. Last month I noticed one caipirinha seller taking a crap next to the car where his friends prepared the drinks. No washing hands or hygiene.

Considering you stayed at the beach in front of Othon, you could have walked one block up on Rua Miguel Lemos / Rua Aires Saldanha to Bar Pipa Velha and bought an excellent and very large caipirinha for 8 reais.

[URL]Gparena.net[/URL]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2662246]Can the regulars update my terma list and Help style bars that are open in Rio now. I'm not interested in Vila Mimosa area, just the A and be places. If you could fill in the blanks that would be appreciated. I will give a trip report when I get back.

Monte Carlo, Centaurus, 4 x 4, Casablanca, 65, and Solarium.

Mabs for hooker bars is all I can remember.

It's been 10 years for me, so I'm rusty on everything. Is the beach in front of Othon Hotel still the hooker part. Also 200 reals for a girl on the beach was standard back then. Is that still good or have they jacked it up with all the inflation the last 10 years.[/QUOTE]

Superbowl, Mosaico, are. Hilrio Ribeiro, 243 - Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro. RJ.

At the suggestion of Senor Bonhead, we will have a Superbowl event at Mosaico, 19 h30 local, at Mosaico, at the above address.

It was good to catch up with Mr. E this past week, along with Jingo10. We linked up on Thursday at Rio Branco 156, patrolled over to Darkroom and some casas, where Noemie Bilas works. Mr. E is a solid wingman with not just fluent Porto, but also a wit that gets a good vibe going with the local girls and staff. The lineup at Darkroom was good, slim morenas, and super hot new negras like Rebecca.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2662458]Once again I fuck up so you do not have to. Me and my girl are at the beach now. A guy walks by with a tray of 2 caipirinhas and 1 strawberry vodka. They are 10 reais each. My girl does not drink so 1 caipirinha for me. I pay the guy 10 and he walks off. I sip the drink and it turns out to be water, ice, sugar and lime. In other words, lemonade unmixed, no alcohol. I let my girl try and she says yep, straight water.

If you buy a drink, then buy it from a stand and not just a guy walking by. It looked so good on that tray though. But still totally worth 10 reais. We just left Outback Steakhouse where the same thing was going for 13.

I had told my girl about the Superbowl that I want to watch tomorrow. We were in the Uber coming back from Outback and passed by Mabs where you can see the projector screen from the street. She said they have a big ass TV screen at that place. Call and see if they will be showing that game. Uhhh. No.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2662465]The caipirinha sellers on the beach is a major tourist trap.

Last month I noticed one caipirinha seller taking a crap next to the car where his friends prepared the drinks. No washing hands or hygiene.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Spert, we needed that!

There is none of that in barra.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2662465]The caipirinha sellers on the beach is a major tourist trap.

The seller comes in cars. Just park and starts their business. They have one guy preparing the drinks in the car and a couple of friends walking around with trays selling the drinks. Last month I noticed one caipirinha seller taking a crap next to the car where his friends prepared the drinks. No washing hands or hygiene.

Considering you stayed at the beach in front of Othon, you could have walked one block up on Rua Miguel Lemos / Rua Aires Saldanha to Bar Pipa Velha and bought an excellent and very large caipirinha for 8 reais.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2662462]Kind of in front of the Othon now and not a hooker in sight. Forget everything you knew from 10 years ago. The game is at the privees and online now.[/QUOTE]Privees as in termas? What's the most popular online: tinder, SA or escort agencies.

Mr E, how do you rank Rio now compared to 10-15 years ago. Do you like the setup better now or before when help was around.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2662706]Mr E, how do you rank Rio now compared to 10-15 years ago. Do you like the setup better now or before when help was around.[/QUOTE]Back in the day, it was easier to find ladies. Help was great, and the ladies at Mea Pattaca waiting to go into Help we're nice.

There weren't so many online options, but more real life options. But even 20 years ago, there were online ladies.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2662246]Can the regulars update my terma list and Help style bars that are open in Rio now. I'm not interested in Vila Mimosa area, just the A and be places. If you could fill in the blanks that would be appreciated. I will give a trip report when I get back.

Monte Carlo, Centaurus, 4 x 4, Casablanca, 65, and Solarium.

Mabs for hooker bars is all I can remember.

It's been 10 years for me, so I'm rusty on everything. Is the beach in front of Othon Hotel still the hooker part. Also 200 reals for a girl on the beach was standard back then. Is that still good or have they jacked it up with all the inflation the last 10 years.[/QUOTE]LOL ten years ago the dollar to the real was for $1. 70 you got 1 real. Today and it has come down unfortunately in recent weeks it's 5. 25 reais to 1. So 200 real divided by 1. 70 reais is $117 dollars. So $117 dollars x 5. 25 = 614 reais. The equivalent amount of 200 reais 10 years ago is 614 reais today. But in Mabs maybe you can get 1 for 300 or 400 reais depending on timeframe and beauty level. You may also want to add to your list a club called Dolce Vita, the girls could be good but the cashier will try to rip you off, so be careful. Dolce vita is like a mini Help.

After a good bit of debauchery in SP me and my will be on Rio from Monday to Friday. I figure most of you on ground will be at the Superbowl Party tonight and we arrive after the Monday Patrol would start but maybe we will be able to see some of you.

Enjoy the game and happy mongering. Can anyone comment on the quality at Dolce Vita nowadays? One of my favourite things is sitting on Copa into the early hours and seeing what passes by.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2662852]LOL ten years ago the dollar to the real was for $1. 70 you got 1 real. Today and it has come down unfortunately in recent weeks it's 5. 25 reais to 1. So 200 real divided by 1. 70 reais is $117 dollars. So $117 dollars x 5. 25 = 614 reais. The equivalent amount of 200 reais 10 years ago is 614 reais today. But in Mabs maybe you can get 1 for 300 or 400 reais depending on timeframe and beauty level. You may also want to add to your list a club called Dolce Vita, the girls could be good but the cashier will try to rip you off, so be careful. Dolce vita is like a mini Help.[/QUOTE]Just to clear up my mistakes LOL ten years ago the dollar to the real was for $1 you got 1. 70 real. Today and it has come down unfortunately in recent weeks it's 5. 25 reais to 1. So 200 real divided by 1. 70 reais is $117 dollars. So $117 dollars x 5. 25 = 614 reais. The equivalent amount of 200 reais 10 years ago is 614 reais today. But in Mabs maybe you can get 1 for 300 or 400 reais depending on timeframe and beauty level. You may also want to add to your list a club called Dolce Vita, the girls could be good but the cashier will try to rip you off, so be careful. Dolce vita is like a mini Help.

I'd like to respectfully extend a well deserved salute to the friendly ISG'ers I met last night at mosaico in VM for the super bowl watching party. A special thanks to the ISG legend himself, vagabundo, the highly decorated gold star combat veteran and philanthropist to all things monger centric!

I must admit it was quite hard to focus on the game at times with all the sweet tail strolling around in their most sultry of attires. All things considered, The girls did a fantastic job at dividing my attention away from the game and happily so. I knew I wasn't the only ISG'er suffering from a momentary lapse of attention deficit disorder when it came time to get an update on the game. It's funny how a horny plethora of scantily clad youthful beauties can have that affect on the precious yet hardened minds of the average monger in primal search of releasing a colossal sperm deposit deep within the depths of well lubricated vagina pocket. The primitive laws of nature that govern our sexual desires often take precedence in times like these!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2662706]Mr E, how do you rank Rio now compared to 10-15 years ago. Do you like the setup better now or before when help was around.[/QUOTE]No longer can gringos just park themselves in the small area made popular by Help Disco, Meia Pataca and the beach in front of Rio Othon. They have to venture out to Centro and other neighborhoods if they want to find the best Rio has to offer. One could just stay in Copa and frequent Centaurus and Monte Carlo. Then later you could move on to MAB'S and Dolce Vita. I would not recommend that.

Some longer-term residents might like the new set-up. It probably helps to keeps the prices of the ladies down. I think guys dropping in for a week or two much prefer the old set-up. Help Disco seemed to bring scores of girls from all over Brazil. There were stunners and girl next door types running around the Disco area. It was also easy to find an afternoon delight on the beach. Copa is much quieter now from a mongering perspective.

Here's a taste of MAB'S at night:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQuvtity44[/URL]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2663263]No longer can gringos just park themselves in the small area made popular by Help Disco, Meia Pataca and the beach in front of Rio Othon. They have to venture out to Centro and other neighborhoods if they want to find the best Rio has to offer. One could just stay in Copa and frequent Centaurus and Monte Carlo. Then later you could move on to MAB'S and Dolce Vita. I would not recommend that.

Some longer-term residents might like the new set-up. It probably helps to keeps the prices of the ladies down. I think guys dropping in for a week or two much prefer the old set-up. Help Disco seemed to bring scores of girls from all over Brazil. There were stunners and girl next door types running around the Disco area. It was also easy to find an afternoon delight on the beach. Copa is much quieter now from a mongering perspective.

Here's a taste of MAB'S at night:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQuvtity44[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, sadly I can confirm the present situation in Copa. Mabs was a big nothing when I stopped by there around midnight on an October Friday night. There was only one attractive girl in the place and she was already taken. The rest of the girls were not what I consider fuck quality. Monte Carlo failed to impress as well, but I might have arrived there too early. I will try it again later in the evening before I make any final judgement. Then over in Ipanema I have mixed feelings about Centaurus. On the one hand I hooked up with a good looking girl who was really passionate in bed, but on the other hand the total cost was 900 br or something outrageous like that and I have not been back since.

So yeah, I wish I had been in RJ back in the day when Help Disco was rocking and there were pick up girls on the beach. It must have been something. But now is what matters. I don't mind travelling cross town to find some friendly, good looking girls and have a good time. But I am curious. What about Casablanca Club? I will have to check it out when I return to RJ.

That was fun. We will repeat.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2663059]I'd like to respectfully extend a well deserved salute to the friendly ISG'ers I met last night at mosaico in VM for the super bowl watching party. A special thanks to the ISG legend himself, vagabundo, the highly decorated gold star combat veteran and philanthropist to all things monger centric!

I must admit it was quite hard to focus on the game at times with all the sweet tail strolling around in their most sultry of attires. All things considered, The girls did a fantastic job at dividing my attention away from the game and happily so. I knew I wasn't the only ISG'er suffering from a momentary lapse of attention deficit disorder when it came time to get an update on the game. It's funny how a horny plethora of scantily clad youthful beauties can have that affect on the precious yet hardened minds of the average monger in primal search of releasing a colossal sperm deposit deep within the depths of well lubricated vagina pocket. The primitive laws of nature that govern our sexual desires often take precedence in times like these![/QUOTE]

After a chill morning and flight me (I was sat next to an English speaker who recommended Ilha Grande as a hidden gem in Rio to visit) and my buddy land in Rio Santos Dumont around 2 pm. Bags take ages but easy Uber to the IBIS Centro and checked in by 3 to freshen up.

It's my buddy's first time in Rio so he's revved. As such we head straight down to Dark Room Prive for a presentation. I've read about them on here and had been in touch via WhatsApp so was feeling good. I had forgotten that Monday tended to be a slow mongering day though .3 girls on line up, none doable. The mistress assures that more are on duty Tuesday and to make sure we come back. It's close so we will more than likely come again.

We head to Tabacaria Africana on Largo do Parço. Good selection, good service. We both tend to grab a Brazilian Robusto to try local flavours. Only white rum, which doesn't work as well with my palette. We had passed 4 x4 on the way and I was thinking about relaxing there in a robe but it's still only 4:30. I spend the hour reading my Rio notes on my phone. Some info missing, especially about prices but luckily I had bookmarked a report of distinction by Questner from last year.

My buddy takes some pics of the view and we Uber to Copa. Walk around for him to absorb the atmosphere (while keeping him within 2 blocks of the end goal as my knee is now pretty inflamed and pills not working) then head to EDEN Spa. It was my first spot so had to return. WhatsApp says 8 girls on duty, but only 3 present when we arrive. Doable, but not excellent. 3 have left and 2 more doing the work.

My buddy chooses Milena and off he goes. I deliberate Mel or the 25 minute wait for the other 2 girls. I should have waited. Mel is tall (I'm intentionally going for that this trip) at 1, 65, mulatta but blonde highlights. She didn't show much energy at the presentation and service was professional at best. I enjoyed the long legs everywhere but her vagina was large despite the lube so really had to manoeuvre her to generate the necessary friction for me to nut. Nothing to write home about and yet she had nerve to ask for a tip. My buddy on the other hand had Milena screaming out loud before I could leave the shower. He was a very happy bunny (5 star service including sucking him back up when he was content to rest. His lucky horseshoe is still very firmly entrenched up his ass!) They have single and double rooms there so ask for a bigger one. Before I leave the two other girls are available to see, Jessica (tall and bubbly) and Sarah (red head) were easily better. I'll probably come back. 200 for the hour.

My buddy has googled a place to eat and we end up at Aip and Aipim near by. Only service by the plate where as last time there was an all you can eat option. This was 6 years ago and at the other branch up the road though. Great food none the less. We then go try the previously mentioned Bar Pipa Velha caipirinhas. The Waiter at pipa velha recommends Nossa senhora apartments 1032 and 1017 for good girls. Not sure we can go, but if anyone is feeling adventurous, feel free.

At this point both our mobile internets go down, we are roaming on the same network but even my buddy's second sim doesn't work. We are ready to go check out Mosaico but with no 4 g a local taxi it is. Of course, it's one with a dodgy meter and a hustler for a driver. I give the address with awful pronunciation and the taxi driver pushes us hard to go Casablanca instead. He's even saying the address into his phone to stop there first and get his tip. (speaking of tips, don't ask me about the 'propina' I had been giving restaurant staff for good service. Suffice to say Spanish and Portuguese are not the same language.) This is where even the most basic Portuguese helps and he corrects course. He then shows us pics of Gp's in his phone. 150 - 250. Some good ones. I overhear him telling the Mosaico bouncer that he's brought two gringo's for them but don't make out the rest. Real hustler, total for the ride is 70 reis!!

Mosaico is quiet (not literally) at 11 pm. 6 or so girls. Mostly 6's and 7's on my scale. 150 for 30 minutes, 200 for an hour, 420 or 450 for deluxe room 1 hour, can't remember. 300 exit fee. More girls to come we are promised and there's a lady doing bbq in 5 inch heels; now that's hot! Food was good too, but then so is most Brazilian cuisine! BBQ lady, a blonde and a mulatta catch my eye. I'm pretty sure BBQ lady is not on the roster but one can dream. We sit and wait on the hope more girls come after midnight. The waiter asks my buddy for a tip, who gives him a hundred to change and gets back 2 fifties. I watching to see who breaks first and the waiter gets the 50! At least our drinks are doubled up for the rest of the night now.

A guy from LA takes up the blonde who is the prettiest one there by far and then Luna, a tall (1. 75) blonde comes down. I'm curious. Then Lily, a mulatta (1,65) with those amazing thighs you only find in Latin America comes down. Not initially interested but my buddy is. We all get flirting, and the two girls are friends so Lily starts drifting to me and Luna. You see where this is going.

My buddy likes Lily and I try to normally respect the bro code, normally. Discussions are turning to the dupla, initially at the hotel before Luna reminds me of basic maths and 400 for an hour in the club is probably the better investment. I'm hesitant as I want to see what else is arriving and my buddy wants to smash Lily so we need to talk. We are going back and forth in that way that only two half drunk guys do and no other girls are arriving. 30 minutes later Beer (vodka) goggles are now firmly now attached the 7's are now 7. 5 so I'm ready. By the time I come back from paying, my buddy already has a giant morena on his lap. He's going to be fine.

The shower is awful So I just wash my nut over the sink and wipe down. Then to the business. Lily has changed into lingerie and Luna is stripping. Lily starts on the the, Luna with DFK then they swap. I'm tempted to have Lily sit on my face but after that shower my eyes are wide open! They both move to the the together before I ask them to start playing with themselves while I watch. Luna takes the lead and their kissing is hot! Luna goes to eat Lily out and I start to hit it from behind. Then they swap. Lily is reluctant to eat Luna out but is throwing back on the the and after a few minutes I nut. They have me swapping condoms every time I switch a girl. Also, them being friends is getting annoying now as they are constantly yabbering. We move to 4 hands massage which is pretty good, Luna with firm hands and Lily with soft. Lily then sucks me back up and starts to ride (really really nicely) and then the swap to Luna. The other is always stroking me and DFK.

It wasn't the best 4 way I've ever had and Luna had to facilitate a lot. I think she understands a good bit of English but plays dum. If I had a repeat I'the have just gone with Lily as she's a whirlwind on the the. I come down and my buddy has finished with the giantess is is drinking more quadruple vodka and Fanta! I take some shots and then go pay. Total damage 560. Mosaico is not Casarao but we had a really good time and if Monday is a slow day we will probably go back.

OG.

After I was kicked out of the elite navy seal team training program for a severe lack of muscle mass in my upper torso, I ventured Back to uni in a rural part of the northern Canadian tundra Where after a few years I made the difficult decision to switch majors mid semester to "putaria economics" with a special emphasis on anal cavity sexual exploration.

Still a novice, From that point forward I began collecting Brazilian passport stamps with goals of gathering a multitude of empirical evidence, conducting various field studies in real time, and sharing unbelievable tales with other Brazilian deuce pocket enthusiasts. I've surrendered my time on earth to the life long pursuit of wrapping a skinny girl's butthole treads around my piroca. Add into the equation a night's worth of wild pelvic thrusting and Nothing turns me on more than A cute magrinha who's willing to endure a small amount of pain and discomfort all in the calling for my personal sexual pleasure (and more often her own sexual pleasure too)! Do jeito que eu gosto!

I want to thank all the brasilieras who participated in my long arduous study over the years, especially you special mix of 3 holers (you know who you are)! Without their help I would've never completed my deviant thesis in a timely fashion. Fwiw, I graduated last in my class and my thesis was initially rejected by my male feminist professor dr simp who told me That I would never succeed in my pursuits. Speaking of dr simp, If he's lucky, his haggard over weight slabby-titted wife grants him missionary sex once every fortnight. Odds are he's checking off various errands on his "honey do list" that his lazy wife compiled before he cooked her breakfast with hopes that she will grant him access to her reptilian vagina before the clock ticks onward and another two weeks have transpired. May god help the man who has yet to discover the many treasures that brasil has to offer!

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2663518]After a chill morning and flight me (I was sat next to an English speaker who recommended Ilha Grande as a hidden gem in Rio to visit) and my buddy land in Rio Santos Dumont around 2 pm. Bags take ages but easy Uber to the IBIS Centro and checked in by 3 to freshen up.[/QUOTE]Fun report, thanks!

Also, while Ilha Grande is not really hidden (and quite a hike from Rio) it is indeed a gem. Highly recommended, but you might want to wife up for the trip.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2663624]After I was kicked out of the elite navy seal team training program for a severe lack of muscle mass in my upper torso, I ventured Back to uni in a rural part of the northern Canadian tundra [/QUOTE]The SEALs don't kick you out, the only way you can leave bud / S is if you ring the bell. IE quit. Go Navy!

I will miss the beach in front of othon palace. I picked up some amazing hotties back then. The hottest girl I've ever been with was on the beach there. It cost a whole 200 reals. She was the Brazilian Gabbie Carter. That was probably 15 years ago. The funny part was how that area became the hooker part. Who decided that's where they would all congregate.

Is the online game now Photoprepagos, tinder, SA. Are they all good or should I pick one of those. SA is a lot of work. You have to weed through a lot of girls around the world that message you. I wish you could just pick one spot where your profile is shown. As far as the beach goes, can you still find hookers just walking down the street like before. Some girls would proposition you as you walked.

We wake around 10, get dressed and head back to Dark Room. Lineup is again awful. I wouldn't recommend this joint, at all. And don't ask me why we didn't just go Bel Prazer either.

We then move to eat at another weigh your plate restaurant on Rua Buenos Aires, I didn't get the name. I'm ok with the food, he says it tastes like yesterday.

Then UBER to massagem tijuca. It's been renovated since my last visit in 2016, real nice. Easily the nicest Prive / Clinicia so far this trip. Line up is solid. I choose Roberta, a dark haired Branca with some meat on her. I'm trying really hard to diversify! We talk a little, and I mean a little. I pay her compliments. She comes close and says I smell nice (Bleu de Chanel) before DFK. I put some effort into kissing and caressing her and a great BBBJ follows. Then reverse cowgirl with her feet planted. Unfortunately she's in worse shape than me, clearly tired after a few minutes so wants to change to positions where I'm doing the work. It was still fun and I considered asking for her number for hotel follow up but as soon as I finished she went from GFE to strictly business. I pay it no mind then she eventually starts asking how long I'm in town etc. Turns out she used to work in SP, Bomboa and Casarao. My buddy chose Lorraine and says his mind was blown. They showered together, had great sex and she gave hardcore BBBJ. Really good Prive. 120 for 30 minutes, 170 for an hour.

Unfortunately real life interferes so I have to head back to hotel. By 4 pm I'm off back to Tabacaria Africana. Meet the owner, Isaac. He's very pleased that I have discovered his place and I show him an article about it online. 2 fine Brancas walk in and we both share 'the look'. He tells me he supplies Solarium and asks if I want a reservation as the owner is a friend. I'm tempted but 4 x4 is on the agenda. Real good time, great experience!

Around 9, we head to 4 x4. It's packed. I am shattered but the work needs to be done. English speaking hostess explains everything, clear prices etc etc. Says "A lot of you Americans in town tonight" in a derogatory manner. I don't bother to correct her, maybe her visa application got denied. We get our drinks and I sit as a coiled spring; ready to pounce when the right GP appears.

After an hour, I have my shortlist; my buddy is taking to a hideous Japa but again, each to his own. Some girls here are well past their fuck by date but the hustle is real! I go to the bar, slip a 50 to the youngster and ask for info. Most girls go home after the club he says, some but not all give numbers / come home with you but you got to do the work. 500 for 3 hours seems to be the going rate but (one asked for 1200!) YMMV. He recommends some good ones (The twins Kiara and Aphrodite amongst them) and my whiskey drams double for the rest of the night. I do laugh at the artistic names some of these girls choose. I'm going by 'Chocolate Quente' until I leave. My buddy has 5 numbers by 11 pm and we are only in Rio 60 more hours. Knowing him he will pull some stroke.

The twins have my eye and they work together I'm told. But I get a better feeling from Aphrodite (A). They also have an older sister in the club, a real stunner in my eyes but my buddy saw her first and after last night I can't break the bro code again. I end up sat next to a fellow ISG member by coincidence and we have a good talk. A is initially reluctant to follow me back to the hotel, but we agree for tomorrow night. I like her, she's on it and not pouty like her sister. I initially had to use their different shoes to tell them apart. I have my contacts, and my buddy has chosen another not so appealing girl to take home. All good right?

At midnight we move to leave and A comes up to ask if she can come with me tonight? She's happy with 500 for TLN. I'm assuming she feels safer knowing another girl is coming with us and probably doesn't want to sleep in the club or wherever she was going. Whatever, I won't argue.

As I go to pay I realise I'm out of condoms. The bouncer says go talk to the cheery lady in reception. Needs must. She hooks me up and we have a laugh, she's alright. Me and A start walking back but my buddy calls out for us all to ride together. I should have known better because we end up on a 45 minute joy ride for him and his girl to get snacks and Vodka. A is cool, more my speed so we are just along for the ride while my buddy's girl is borderline loco. He wants to register her at the hotel as a precaution. It all falls apart from there as the guy at the counter decides he has to check them in and my buddy's girl can't find her vaccine credentials. Never had this issue at an IBIS before and had even emailed in advance of the trip on the guest policy.

A is ok to stay and my buddy ends up at hotel Sheik around the corner for 100 Reis with his girl. A is affectionate, smooth and much older than she should have to be for an 18 year old. My usual oil massage routine commences, she gets hot for it and off we go. At this age you can flex them any which way but it's wasted on someone with my fitness levels. One good session and I'm good. She's out cold shortly after but has snuggled up close to me.

She's in the shower as I type this after a morning quickie. Me and my buddy are off to be tourists for the day around 10, if not I'm sure she'the have stayed and flexed. It's all good.

OG.

Enjoying your posts man. And wondering why you didn't go for "Omicron Delta" LOL!

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2663917]We then move to eat at another weigh your plate restaurant on Rua Buenos Aires, I didn't get the name. I'm ok with the food, he says it tastes like yesterday.[/QUOTE]I like having that new guy perspective. He is exactly right. It took me over 20 years to realize it. I have been meaning to write about it in the General thread. If you like rice, beans, and shoe leather, then you have come to the right place.

I was at my girl's house in Sao Paulo last week and she was like well that is all I know how to make. I teased her and said why do y'all even have different restaurants since you have the same thing at all of them, which is the same thing y'all make at home everyday. Rice, beans (hell at least give me different kinds of beans instead of the same ones), french fries, tough ass beef in a pressure cooker, cut up chicken pieces in an oven, or breaded fried fish. She was like yeah you are right.

Then do not get me started on this feijoada stuff. You make beans everyday, but one day out of the week you give the people a treat by adding meat into the beans. Yippee!

Spices? Fuggetaboutit. Onion and salt are the only spices they need. Funny. Police chick that I used to mess with in Sao Paulo came to visit me in the States. I took her out to a hole in the wall spot where they have "real drinks." She was crying that the drink had pepper in it and it was too spicy for her. No sweetheart, that is called alcohol.

My girlfriend came to visit me in the States over New Years and I took her to the same place. With all the caipirinhas and shit I have seen her drink in Brazil I have never seen her drunk. But with only 2 of those Blue Motherfuckers she was fucked the fuck up. She fell through the doorway trying to take her clothes off when we got home. Yep. That is what real alcohol does.

And you might think they can dance. Nope. They can do Samba and that is pretty much it. I fell out of my seat watching her dance Samba to R&B music. It was like she was dancing to a beat that was not even in the same city.

P. S. Why do they squeeze the condiment onto each bite of the sandwich instead of opening it up and putting it on the entire sandwich at one time? Bite, squeeze, bite, squeeze, bite, squeeze.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2663917]It all falls apart from there as the guy at the counter decides he has to check them in and my buddy's girl can't find her vaccine credentials. Never had this issue at an IBIS before and had even emailed in advance of the trip on the guest policy.[/QUOTE]LOL. I hope he learned his lesson. I stayed at the Ibis in Copacabana for 2 days last week until my airbnb reservation and they did not ask for any vaccine card. Since being here I have only been asked twice. Last Friday night at the Samba school and Saturday at Outback in Botafogo Shopping. And those people were not even looking at it. They just wanted it to look like you were showing them something.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2663946]And you might think they can dance. Nope. They can do Samba and that is pretty much it. I fell out of my seat watching her dance Samba to R&B music. It was like she was dancing to a beat that was not even in the same city.[/QUOTE]This. Every time a girl asks me if I want her to dance funk for me, I tell her I don't like funk, which is also true. Total waste of time. They should go to Colombia or DR to learn how to dance. I should too.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2663946]Why do they squeeze the condiment onto each bite of the sandwich instead of opening it up and putting it on the entire sandwich at one time? Bite, squeeze, bite, squeeze, bite, squeeze.[/QUOTE]Some people do it with the fries and squeeze droplets so tiny on every fry, that one bag of ketchup is enough for large fries.

P.S. It's good that you explained that photo because first I thought it's a girl trying to escape your room with your wallet. Very funny post, I'm still laughing.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2663720]Fun report, thanks!

Also, while Ilha Grande is not really hidden (and quite a hike from Rio) it is indeed a gem. Highly recommended, but you might want to wife up for the trip.[/QUOTE]If you go to Ilha Grande I highly recommend Asalem for your stay. As mentioned before, bring your own woman. The Island is spectacular. The food at Asalem is superb. I would also recommend traveling to Angra dos Reis by shuttle. You take the ferry from there to Ilha Grande. Under no circumstances take the bus from Rio. I have had two nightmare trips via bus going from Rio to Angra dos Reis { Ilha Grande}. By nightmare I mean the toilets overflowed on the bus and it smelled like shit the entire trip. The facilities at the bus station en route where we stopped for a break were no better, Get the shuttle van. There are several.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2663917].... I'm trying really hard to diversify! .[/QUOTE]This makes me laugh, haha. Enjoy reading your report.

Did the club see you walk out with the girls after their shifts? I am just curious to see if that is an OK thing to do.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2663946]I like having that new guy perspective. He is exactly right. It took me over 20 years to realize it. I have been meaning to write about it in the General thread. If you like rice, beans, and shoe leather, then you have come to the right place.

I was at my girl's house in Sao Paulo last week and she was like well that is all I know how to make. I teased her and said why do y'all even have different restaurants since you have the same thing at all of them, which is the same thing y'all make at home everyday. Rice, beans (hell at least give me different kinds of beans instead of the same ones), french fries, tough ass beef in a pressure cooker, cut up chicken pieces in an oven, or breaded fried fish. She was like yeah you are right.

Then do not get me started on this feijoada stuff. You make beans everyday, but one day out of the week you give the people a treat by adding meat into the beans. Yippee!

Spices? Fuggetaboutit. Onion and salt are the only spices they need. Funny. Police chick that I used to mess with in Sao Paulo came to visit me in the States. I took her out to a hole in the wall spot where they have "real drinks." She was crying that the drink had pepper in it and it was too spicy for her. No sweetheart, that is called alcohol.

My girlfriend came to visit me in the States over New Years and I took her to the same place. With all the caipirinhas and shit I have seen her drink in Brazil I have never seen her drunk. But with only 2 of those Blue Motherfuckers she was fucked the fuck up. She fell through the doorway trying to take her clothes off when we got home. Yep. That is what real alcohol does.

And you might think they can dance. Nope. They can do Samba and that is pretty much it. I fell out of my seat watching her dance Samba to R&B music. It was like she was dancing to a beat that was not even in the same city.

P. S. Why do they squeeze the condiment onto each bite of the sandwich instead of opening it up and putting it on the entire sandwich at one time? Bite, squeeze, bite, squeeze, bite, squeeze.[/QUOTE]This right here is my feeling exactly. And why I prefer the food in SP. In Rio, it is all the same. Some overcooked beef, rice with broccoli, beans, fries and that shit called farofa. I always carry my dried chili packets with me to spice things up. But I can't eat the same shit day in and day out.

In SP, I can have my variety which of course is more expensive but oh well. Eat good and live good!!

Na brasa Columbia is always good food.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2664047]This right here is my feeling exactly. And why I prefer the food in SP. In Rio, it is all the same. Some overcooked beef, rice with broccoli, beans, fries and that shit called farofa. I always carry my dried chili packets with me to spice things up. But I can't eat the same shit day in and day out.

In SP, I can have my variety which of course is more expensive but oh well. Eat good and live good!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2664045]This makes me laugh, haha. Enjoy reading your report.

Did the club see you walk out with the girls after their shifts? I am just curious to see if that is an OK thing to do.[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing. We typically arrange a meet-up place right after 4 x 4 closes.

If we went the phone number route, we were very discreet in taking the information.

[QUOTE=Heyunous;2663981]If you go to Ilha Grande I highly recommend Asalem for your stay. As mentioned before, bring your own woman. The Island is spectacular. The food at Asalem is superb. I would also recommend traveling to Angra dos Reis by shuttle. You take the ferry from there to Ilha Grande. Under no circumstances take the bus from Rio. I have had two nightmare trips via bus going from Rio to Angra dos Reis { Ilha Grande}. By nightmare I mean the toilets overflowed on the bus and it smelled like shit the entire trip. The facilities at the bus station en route where we stopped for a break were no better, Get the shuttle van. There are several.[/QUOTE]Checked the pics for Asalem and the views are spectacular, but $200 is too much for a simple hotel room on IG. I paid much less for a 3 bdrm villa with a large pool, Jacuzzi, oceanview terrace, and, most importantly, right on the beach, I mean literally feet in the sand, there must've been no more than 100 feet between the gate and the water.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2664045]This makes me laugh, haha. Enjoy reading your report.

Did the club see you walk out with the girls after their shifts? I am just curious to see if that is an OK thing to do.[/QUOTE]I try to be as discreet as possible, even when staring at a half naked woman standing in front of me. I just told them to meet us outside when they were done changing while we went and paid.

However, when I went back in to ask for condoms the English speaking receptionist was joking with me about it. And the bouncer was totally chill. I'd always err on the side of caution but nobody seemed that bothered if I'm being honest.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2664047]This right here is my feeling exactly. And why I prefer the food in SP. In Rio, it is all the same. Some overcooked beef, rice with broccoli, beans, fries and that shit called farofa. I always carry my dried chili packets with me to spice things up. But I can't eat the same shit day in and day out.

In SP, I can have my variety which of course is more expensive but oh well. Eat good and live good!![/QUOTE]If I was just choosing cities based on restaurants, I would choose Sao Paulo over Rio.

As far as por kilo buffets (pay by weight), the inexpensive restaurants keep it mostly to the popular basics. The slow-cooked meats, rice, beans and potatoes. If you seek variety, there are por kilos scattered around town with everything from Italian, sushi and decent desserts.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2663802]I will miss the beach in front of othon palace. I picked up some amazing hotties back then. The hottest girl I've ever been with was on the beach there. It cost a whole 200 reals. She was the Brazilian Gabbie Carter. That was probably 15 years ago. The funny part was how that area became the hooker part. Who decided that's where they would all congregate.

Is the online game now Photoprepagos, tinder, SA. Are they all good or should I pick one of those. SA is a lot of work. You have to weed through a lot of girls around the world that message you. I wish you could just pick one spot where your profile is shown. As far as the beach goes, can you still find hookers just walking down the street like before. Some girls would proposition you as you walked.[/QUOTE]I don't know about tinder or Sa maybe you can have success with them but if your time is limited go straight for escorts.

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

Yeah I remember the days when in the middle of the day you could walk down Copacabana and get propositioned multiple times by young beautiful girls, sadly those days are over.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2664238]I don't know about tinder or Sa maybe you can have success with them but if your time is limited go straight for escorts.

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

Yeah I remember the days when in the middle of the day you could walk down Copacabana and get propositioned multiple times by young beautiful girls, sadly those days are over.[/QUOTE]So what stopped it? Did the police start arresting the girls? It is really too bad the working girls have left the beach.

If you want to go the escort route I recommend BarraVips too. The site is rock solid. No bait & switch. Some pretty enthusiastic girls. I prefer the bar scene (SP Boates & RJ Termas), but I relied on BarraVips during my 1st visit to RJ last April when the city shutdown was in force and all the Termas and most Prive's were closed. I have stayed in touch with my 3 favorite BarraVip girls to this day and I plan to hook up with them again when I return.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664172]If I was just choosing cities based on restaurants, I would choose Sao Paulo over Rio.

As far as por kilo buffets (pay by weight), the inexpensive restaurants keep it mostly to the popular basics. The slow-cooked meats, rice, beans and potatoes. If you seek variety, there are por kilos scattered around town with everything from Italian, sushi and decent desserts.[/QUOTE]I don't see prices posted. How much for 1 hour.

I meet my buddy around 10 am and he's had a ball. He's left his girl at Hotel Sheik passed out. They've been through a bottle of vodka, yet he's still standing. The hotel has mirrors on the wall, breakfast and no issues at reception. It's a 6 minute walk from IBIS so definitely on the list for next time.

We do Cristo Redentor and then end up in Barraca the Chiquita on Rua Santa Clara for lunch. Ayla Estevez, a 500 per hour GP from Barra VIP's is sitting one table away from me. I don't regret not following it up but the dude she is with is clearly enamoured and she clearly knows sexy sophistication. I bet she shaves her legs too. I really should book a night in Transamerica next time to see if these Barra VIP girls look better than Terma girls. I'm not convinced they do.

Off to Urca / Rio Vermelho. My buddy has arranged for a thick (as in considerably) loira from 4 x4 to meet us there. After a tour from me around the beach (Terra Brasilis is still there and I believe it to still be one of the best restaurants around, but less talk about Brazilian food, haha) she arrives and we head up the cable car. He's left his vodka glasses in the club and CLEARLY isn't interested. She's agreed 500 for TLN. He's being awkward and I'm being nice. I'm sure she's not stupid. I finish up my tour guide responsibilities and make my excuses. It's bad enough being third wheel without being part of a potential cringe fest. At one point he says to me he doesn't like her teeth, his girl last night had spent 7000 on veneers and had flawless teeth. All the hairy legs (one morena dyed hers blonde) about the city and he's tripping on coffee stained teeth.

I head to Tabacaria Africana and am in touch with Mr. E. We met an hour later and his lady joins me for a puff while we have a drink. I tell my nephews that there are levels to this game, to look up and not back. Well, I'm working up to his. Good catch up and chill, we share a lot of the same methodology. ISG Jacs gets in touch and we agree to meet at T65. I'm always down for research.

I head back to hotel and my buddy is partying with the blonde. Watermelon vodka is a hell of an aphrodisiac! She's breastfeeding and I make my exit when he starts talk of milking her. She has to leave at 10 pm so he will join us later. Not the deal originally agreed but he's seemingly not fussed.

Get to T65 around 9:15. Literally the next street over from (4 x4). Entrance 50, consumable. Drinks reasonable. I go scope It out while I wait for Jacs to arrive. The line up is ok-ish. Girls way more direct and forward than 4 x4. A thick Negra attaches herself to me. Ass is coated with galvanised steel, but not doing it for me. Jacs arrives and talks to the stand out redhead, she doesn't do take out. Shame. Not too much else apart from a sexy mulatta in red named Mel. My buddy joins; it did not end well. Car crash, I believe is the phrase. At one point he took her to a bar happy hour and she got two drinks; for herself. He says she played the my baby needs me card to leave then started 'crying'.

Around 11 we head to 4 x4. Much the same girls as yesterday. Kiara walks past, Jacs points her out. I call her over and 5 minutes later she storms off! I ask him what he did and TLN already agreed for 500. I'm pretty confident he will have a good time. K is the more serious one, but both are about the business and I really like that!

I had noticed a thick thighed mulatta named Suellen when I arrived and remembering Lily from Mosaico's performance I made up my mind quickly. The braces kind of killed the vibe, but I was still down. My buddy had her best friend in his lap (tall Negra with curly hair whose name escapes me) and we didn't know. Quick chat, take out agreed. Initially wanted 800 for TLN. I should have lowballed my counter to 350 but 500 agreed.

4 x4 pops off with 3 excellent strip performances, including a lesbian show. My buddy's girl from last night did the splits and ate out another girl. She was clearly holding out on him. And the look on his face was priceless. One bunch of locals had a no chill type of guy who had two girls take off their panties and sucked them dry!

Its now 12:30 and my buddy is still hunting but I'm ready to move. Suellen then starts having an intense convo with the best friend we didn't know about. She then asks me if my buddy will take the friend? Not my business. She asks me to ask him and he says fuck it, yes. I'm wary he's playing catch-up after the mess earlier but he's grown.

Uber back, same bullshit at reception, but all ok in the end. He calls me around 2 am, his girl is proposing a swap if we are down, a real freak. I was the party pooper in that I just wasn't feeling the friend but he's very happy! Suellen was exactly what I was hoping for, good BBBJ despite the braces and first round was all furious twerking in multiple positions. I'm shattered now. Been going hard for a week! I do the oil thing, and tell her we go slow now. Quick learner, instead of fury it's now calm. Thighs squeezing me while she rides. I'm very happy. She's happy to chill for a bit till the afternoon, which is cool. Probably going to be a slow day anyway.

For those asking about taking girls out from 4 x4 it was pretty flagrant last night. K literally opened the club door in her civvies and asked me where Jacs was. The mistress joined the convo when Suellen and the friend were having their 'talk' and the receptionist teased me again about it. So, I assume that as long as your not being a douche, it's all good.

OG.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2663930]Enjoying your posts man. And wondering why you didn't go for "Omicron Delta" LOL![/QUOTE]Omicron Gamma is a play on my Uncle's nickname, OG. Trying to keep his legacy going. But Omicron Delta would have been an ideal pushback to these mask bandits here in Rio!

Happy to pay it back, this forum is where it's at!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2664251]So what stopped it? Did the police start arresting the girls? It is really too bad the working girls have left the beach.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed periodically the last ten years. Help Disco closing clearly quieted Copa down. In its heyday (90's & 00's), it would seem the supply of hot girls would spontaneously expand to meet the rising demand of foreign men. A slice of Copacabana became the infamous ground zero for Rio's debauchery. The home of Rio's lucrative skin trade that brought a lot of hard currency into the city.

I remember the wives of Brazilian colleagues in SP dismissing the idea of staying in this area. They would recommend nicer and natural beaches in other parts of the country. The husbands would be like "he's a man, honey. He wants to go to Copacabana." In an effort to close the topic. LOL. Many Brazilians wouldn't go near this area as couples or with their families.

As far as what happened to the girls on the beach, some say the hookers just disappeared soon after Help Disco closed. No more hooker beach in front of the Hotel Rio Othon. Perhaps the dramatic decline of foreign mongers meant that not enough daytime action spilled over on to the beach to make sitting there waiting worthwhile. I personally think the city also subtly encouraged these working girls to move on.

There are always limited opportunities to meet girls at the beach. It takes more than heading to one specific point on the beach. It takes more than the glance and smile of the old days.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2664251]So what stopped it? Did the police start arresting the girls? It is really too bad the working girls have left the beach.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed periodically the last ten years. Help Disco closing clearly quieted Copa down. In its heyday (90's & 00's), it would seem the supply of hot girls would spontaneously expand to meet the rising demand of foreign men. A slice of Copacabana became the infamous ground zero for Rio's debauchery. The home of Rio's lucrative skin trade that brought a lot of hard currency into the city.

I remember the wives of Brazilian colleagues in SP dismissing the idea of staying in this area. They would recommend nicer and natural beaches in other parts of the country. The husbands would be like "he's a man, honey. He wants to go to Copacabana. " in an effort to close the topic. LOL. Many Brazilians wouldn't go near this area as couples or with their families.

As far as what happened to the girls on the beach, some say the hookers just disappeared soon after Help Disco closed. No more hooker beach in front of the Hotel Rio Othon. Perhaps the dramatic decline of foreign mongers meant that not enough daytime action spilled over on to the beach to make sitting there waiting worthwhile. I personally think the city also subtly encouraged these working girls to move on.

There are always limited opportunities to meet girls at the beach. It takes more than heading to one specific point on the beach. It takes more than the glance and smile of the old days.

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664376]For those asking about taking girls out from 4 x4 it was pretty flagrant last night. K literally opened the club door in her civvies and asked me where Jacs was. The mistress joined the convo when Suellen and the friend were having their 'talk' and the receptionist teased me again about it. So, I assume that as long as your not being a douche, it's all good.[/QUOTE]OG,

I love your reports on current action on the ground. I love the contrasts between you and your buddy.

I hate to be the serious, big brother here. Americans (or other foreigners) get chuckled off for our "flagrant" behaviors until we don't. We don't know if the owners were present late one night how they would react.

This would a great topic for Vagabundo to weigh in on.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664113]Checked the pics for Asalem and the views are spectacular, but $200 is too much for a simple hotel room on IG. I paid much less for a 3 bdrm villa with a large pool, Jacuzzi, oceanview terrace, and, most importantly, right on the beach, I mean literally feet in the sand, there must've been no more than 100 feet between the gate and the water.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for that house on IG? I would be very interested. Asalem has a beautiful beach but you have to traverse a path down the hill, Somewhat treacherous in flops!

[QUOTE=Heyunous;2664457]Do you have a link for that house on IG? I would be very interested. Asalem has a beautiful beach but you have to traverse a path down the hill, Somewhat treacherous in flops![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/32311963?federated_search_id=bd0246a4-feaa-422f-8c4f-3c896f22b30b&source_impression_id=p3_1645128551_6lT9gCw77JOah1%2Bm[/URL]

I got to say, though, it's considerably more costly now.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664435]As far as what happened to the girls on the beach, some say the hookers just disappeared soon after Help Disco closed. No more hooker beach in front of the Hotel Rio Othon. Perhaps the dramatic decline of foreign mongers meant that not enough daytime action spilled over on to the beach to make sitting there waiting worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Besides that, remember that a good majority of those chicks were from out of town. Just like a shopping mall. They have anchor stores. Help was the anchor store. When anchor stores close, many of the other stores in the mall are right behind it. Maybe the word in other cities was that we can go get money from foreigners at Help. With Help closed, nobody was saying we can travel 10 hours on a bus to get money on the beach. Not like there were hundreds of hookers hanging out at the beach anyway. 3 to 10 (liberal estimate) at the most.

The Week in baseball.

It is Thursday. I had a great overnight, BBFS, with a mineira, 18, I met at Mosaico / VM on Sunday. Some of the almost 10 ISGers who were there will remember her as the girl I went up with from the street. I paid 500. Three pops, all BBFS. I picked her up last night at 23 h when I dropped off Monica Mattos, a Mosaico girl, hot AF, 21. We went to the beach kiosk restaurant today at Posto 6, Barra, and it was awesome. I took a bottle of gin. We had shrimp. It came to about 200 for the food including some drink mixers.

Monica Mattos came over yesterday afternoon. It was two pops, covered. She is a porn star quality 21 year old. It is fun in the way that hoaring with 21 year olds can be. I get her from the uber downstairs, we go up to the love shack, and fuck. We then go out to Olegario, and have some ribs (200 reais) and drinks. Since she likes gin and tropical, I buy some of those at the package shop there on olegario (another 200). Olegario is the place to be.

We did the same thing on Tuesday afternoon, except we went to the beach kiosk. The same waiter there saw me with 3 different girls this week. The guy must think I am. A vagabundo.

Monday, Ann Amari came over for pernoite, and it was great.

I see a lot of activity around 4 x 4, etc. I need to make it back there as well as some of the other tier 1 places, first among them perola negra and paris, where IMHO, the best girls are because here in Barra is where the richest customers are.

Best Super Bowl Sunday – Anne Amari Beach, Mineira VM, Monica Mattos Mosaico.

Anne Amari asked to come over and go to the beach. We did and it was awesome. We drank, swam, ate, and played felipe ret on the Ryobi Radio, then came back to the love shack, fucked, and enjoyed the afternoon.

Since Vagabundo was involed in the Superbowl Mosaico event, he mongered over to Mosaico (Bonhead asked for it, and Vagbundo made it happen with contacts).

OMFG. Let me start where the game ends, which is Estrella danced, stripped, took it off, and she has the best stripper body since Monica Mattos. She lewdly spread her ass for Vagabundo who sat next to the stage.

Somewhere in there, before Estrella's dance, about 8 of the 10 ISGers (about 50% lurkers, which is cool) mongered over to VM. We did the loop. Right away Vagabundo found a hot AF morena from Minas Gerais — that would be a mineira. OK, here is a Brazil protip. The best talent comes from Minas Gerais, as does the food. You find a Mineira, especially a 18 YO with no kids and a hot AF bod, you slide your penis into her, not only that you eat her pussy like it's a bowl of hot chocolate and you are fat albert, and you make her come, and Vagabundo did, and he blew a (covered) load into her hot pussy, in a cabin overlooking the main drag in VM, which is to say, Frigocopa trucks with some frozen widget destined for copa. OK, the cost was $85. She is beautiful, has a nice ass, and we went up to the cabin. She found a big cabin with no lights, so the lights in a cell phone worked, and an open window to the street worked. Vagabundo stripped while she showered, and then she came back and we 69 ed, and it was good 69 ing. She put my Skyn condom on and she hopped on, and we fucked, hard and with lust. Kissing. Then I bent her over doggy and fucked her until I came.

She goes in the rotation for pernoite. Going to have to work the BBFS in there. Getting a fresh test tomorrow, BTW.

OK, back to Mosaico. There are like 4-6 Monica Mattos clones. Monica Mattos is a morena, with perfect tits, and a Miss BumBum Brazil bunda. My particular chosen Monica Mattos came in about midnight or before, and I got her first session. She had been holding out on giving me her number. I paid $200 reais for an hour. We went up. I got the number. I stripped. She showered. Again, the cabin had no light, so cell phone light worked, and it was awesome. DFK, great blow job, she puts on the Skyn condom, and hops on top and fucks me. She has such as nice pussy. Her face is so pretty. Her tits are so perfect. We go to doggy, and I blow a load. Then I eat out her asshole and ass from behind for a few minutes, and then turn her over and eat her pussy until she orgasms very well.

Later we chat and it is game on for pernoite several times a week.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2664572]Besides that, remember that a good majority of those chicks were from out of town. Just like a shopping mall. They have anchor stores. Help was the anchor store. When anchor stores close, many of the other stores in the mall are right behind it. Maybe the word in other cities was that we can go get money from foreigners at Help. With Help closed, nobody was saying we can travel 10 hours on a bus to get money on the beach. Not like there were hundreds of hookers hanging out at the beach anyway. 3 to 10 (liberal estimate) at the most.[/QUOTE]Yes, your anchor store analogy is a good one. Help Disco drew a ton of out of town girls. A few of the residential buildings near Help were what I reverently called bee hives. They were filled up with working girls who were sharing and rotating in and out of apartments.

The beach scene was probably better than you are giving it credit. There was the more subtle scene in front of the Hotel Caesar Park in Ipanema. I also ran into Help girls on the beach at various points in Copa. Some of the working girls perhaps just wanted to relax after a busy night and didn't go to the obvious points on the beach to meet foreign men.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664439]OG,

I love your reports on current action on the ground. I love the contrasts between you and your buddy.

I hate to be the serious, big brother here. Americans (or other foreigners) get chuckled off for our "flagrant" behaviors until we don't. We don't know if the owners were present late one night how they would react.

This would a great topic for Vagabundo to weigh in on.[/QUOTE]So. I followed this up. I'm here in 4 x4 as I write this. We thought about Perola Negra or Casablanca / Dolce Vita but I'm smashed on peanut Batida and Camilla, the lap dancer from last night is on my mind.

Are $50 and a good convo with the English speaking receptionist follows. The club line is that if you want to take out a girl, their fee is are $1100. For that, they ensure the girl will act right and do you right. If the girl has finished her shift at 11/12, you make a deal and you take her, the risk is yours and they don't get involved.

FYI, line-up is fire tonight. It's cat night or some shit and there are different girls.

Reading about Ho-beach in front of Othon. I guess it depends on what year you compare. In the nineties you could easily find 50 GP's in a stretch of 200 metres. I have lots of beach photos from those years and the quality was quite good, sometimes fantastic.

I'm feeling the burn today and not had water for 2 days. When Suellen goes home I go walk for coffee and find a local spot on the corner of Rua de Assembleia and Rua Rodrigo Silva that does Açaí. Order the bowl instead of the smoothie by mistake and it arrives the size of my face. I hate wasting food, yet alone good stuff! Does wonders for my energy though.

By the time I get back I'm dead and want to sleep. It would have been VM otherwise. My buddy has his second wind and heads to Copa to repeat at Eden Spa. I recommended Anne Massagem from the lineup pics they sent me, but he's alone for the first time so playing it safe. He says Eden line-up was solid and he went with Jessica. I'the take his views on the lineup with a pinch of salt, his taste in women is either sublime or atrocious.

I sleep for a few hours and awake to message from Suellen offering to come back and hang. I ask about work and she says she starts at 6 so has time. Saying "yea sure" was a mistake. She arrives around 3, sexy as hell and I'm ready to pump. Good 90 minute session where she's choosing music and when massaging me rubs her bare goodness on my piece right to the tip. I invite her to dinner and as we go to leave she has left her shoes and bag on the floor. Erm. No.

Next 15 minutes are awkward but I'm pretty set on trying my luck on the sexy pole dancer (Camilla) from last night or something new, or hell; 7 hours sleep! Shorty is genuinely upset, but she can't stay. It really is true, some of these girls live in a mess (or the club) and much prefer your hotel room comfort, hot shower, meals etc. And making 900 or so out of me for two overnight stays is pretty good in a country where the minimum Monthly wage is 1200. I really should have seen it coming but all I saw was that ass in D4.

Dinner at Capitu, the owner of which I met in the Tabacaria, then off for my daily charuto. My buddy has arranged with a university student from photo (video call to confirm) 2 hours for 250 so I can take my time. This guy used to pick fruit 12 hours a day as an immigrant and now owns multiple properties so he can do the WORK!

After my Donna Flor, I decide I like the the peanut Batida a little too much and head back to Capitu. My buddy eventually joins me. My idea of a last night in Rio is rapidly moving to 8 hours sleep. He's ready to go back to 4 x4 (he REALLY likes 4 x4) or Mosaico. I read VB's most recent posts and we discuss Perola Negra, then Casablanca / Dolce Vita combo, or back to 4 x4. 5 (8 for me) rounds of batida in, we are wrecked. 4 x4 is as far as we can go.

It's like Hello, kitty night. And new babes. Camila, best dancer from last night is up again. I've burned through cash faster than my charuto on this trip and I'm not stopping! A whole lot of new guys in town and the desk is doing a roaring trade in room bookings. I can see how 410 for an hour with a beautiful girl holds appeal. More so after what was to come.

*See my separate post on taking girls out of the club*.

My buddy arranges with a nice looking morena named Catarina and is quite chill tonight. Last night blues I guess. I get caught up talking to Alan, a guy from south London who's basically asking me to negotiate with girls for him. He can't remember last night, I tell him he got so drunk he took an awful Negra to the room for an hour and the bouncer helped him get a taxi home. He's says, "So that's where all my money went". I've taken my eyes off her and now lost Camila. Coral is the back up. Help Alan arrange pernoite with Suellen, Coral now taken with another guy. Lexi, the twins Older sister is last option. Suellen tells me Alan is, roughly translated; a dumbass. I help Alan with the pequana Negra in white and he's happy. Lexi taken upstairs. See the pattern here.

I try to get my buddy's morena to get a message to Coral. Put the offer in and if the dude she is with has not booked, come with us. Coral agrees, I'm chill and no longer going to punch Alan. I see Lexi as I go to pay and we share a look. She is changed and leaving and I'm going to try get her. I'm clearly off my game because instead of just making the move I go to pay first, take my eyes off her and like Kaiser Soze. She disappears. Coral then subsequently pulls out of our deal. I've flamed out.

I go outside to get air, my buddy joins me. His girl took 40 minutes to change so we hang by the small steps next to the club. He wanted to leave, I said be patient. I didn't know. Alan joins us. He is waiting for the Negra. I run back in to use the bathroom and the girl is milling around. She smiles at me, I get it. I go tell Alan to go home, he insists she will come. We left him waiting outside.

Get to hotel, I'm straight to bed. I saw a message from my buddy at 4 am but thought nothing of it. TL: DR, all hell broke loose. They were chilling until it was time for him to enter. She then starts regulating and making it difficult time and again. He pulls out, gives her 200, tells her to leave. She insists on the 500. He makes some crucial mistakes (left his room, didn't take her picture, didn't call her bluff on the police) to lose leverage and it spiralled. Hotel staff don't back him, he ends up paying her to make it go away. Lucky he made them check her bag as she had his phones, cologne, etc. As he explained to me this morning, the words of the 4 x4 receptionist on taking out girls echoed in my mind. He'll be ok, but I remember the first time a girl did this to me back in Marrakech way back. Crazy ***** took a knife and cut her arm. Hopefully a stop to Bel Prazer before the airport will reset his mood.

"Catarina" clearly heard him when he told her it was his last night in town and made her move. There are risks to this game. Stay sharp and stay safe out there.

OG.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2663326]So yeah, I wish I had been in RJ back in the day when Help Disco was rocking and there were pick up girls on the beach.[/QUOTE]I really miss Help. That said, There are still plenty of late night options on / near Avenida Atlántica. Part of that is Mabs and Dolce Vita. There are also other late night bars too in the area. What exists now is a bit of a smaller scale and more spread out.

As for the beach, there are still plenty of freelancers. The difference now is that it's not as overt as before. To overcome this, you have to make conversation with girls on the beach or the hawkers (who will point them out and make introductions). To avoid the markup as a result of third party interference, you got to collect numbers and reach out via text. It is more work than what it was, and that's why any trip to Rio should be a minimum 14 days so to get adjusted and maximize opportunities by building up your contact lists of girls.

The big positive in terms of changes is the safety of Avenida Atlántica at night. Gone are the trannys, scam artists and robbers. There are a lot more people out late night and small little parties up and down the street. Portuguese speaking abilities maximize your enjoyment opportunities!

[QUOTE=OmicronGamma;2664835]When Suellen goes home I go walk for coffee and find a local spot on the corner of Rua de Assembleia and Rua Rodrigo Silva that does Aa. I sleep for a few hours and awake to message from Suellen offering to come back and hang. I ask about work and she says she starts at 6 so has time. Saying "yea sure" was a mistake. She arrives around 3, sexy as hell and I'm ready to pump. Good 90 minute session where she's choosing music and when massaging me rubs her bare goodness on my piece right to the tip. I invite her to dinner and as we go to leave she has left her shoes and bag on the floor. Erm. No.[/QUOTE]Your posts remind me of my very first trip to Brazil. You see, I had my own "Suellen" then (in the photos). She was from Belo Horizonte LOL! Met her at the now defunct Barbarella nightclub. Thing is, she looked just like she belonged in that other "BH" (Beverly Hills). That is, until she opened her mouth that is. Very heavy (and beautiful) Brazilian-accented English. I remember too that her butt hole was so tight that it was one of the few times in my long and storied cornholing career that I couldn't "enter" hahaha! Should have used my patented missionary anal "frango" technique LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Mexidan;2664859]I really miss Help. That said, There are still plenty of late night options on / near Avenida Atlntica. Part of that is Mabs and Dolce Vita. There are also other late night bars too in the area. What exists now is a bit of a smaller scale and more spread out.

As for the beach, there are still plenty of freelancers. The difference now is that it's not as overt as before. To overcome this, you have to make conversation with girls on the beach or the hawkers (who will point them out and make introductions). To avoid the markup as a result of third party interference, you got to collect numbers and reach out via text. It is more work than what it was, and that's why any trip to Rio should be a minimum 14 days so to get adjusted and maximize opportunities by building up your contact lists of girls.

The big positive in terms of changes is the safety of Avenida Atlntica at night. Gone are the trannys, scam artists and robbers. There are a lot more people out late night and small little parties up and down the street. Portuguese speaking abilities maximize your enjoyment opportunities![/QUOTE]Great post,

Mexidan. Thanks.

On my two previous visits to RF I stayed near Arpoador on Copa & on Ipanema and on Praia the Barra the Tijuca. On my next visit I am staying.

In between Posto 3 & Posto 4 on Copa, so I am looking forward to checking out a few more of the late night options in that vicinity. Casablanca being one and yeah I will check out Mabs again too even though I am not expecting much based on my 1st visit.

A. H.

The demise of the hoe triangle (Beach, Meia Pataca, Help) came down to the PERFECT STORM!! Many factors occurred within a 3 to 4 year period that killed the sex scene in Copa.

1) Help Closed.

2) Rio won the rights to host the World Cup.

3) Rio won the rights to host the Olympics.

4) The dollar dropped to like 1. 6 or 1. 7 R.

5) Once Rio won the rights to host the Olympics, the price of property fucking skyrocketed! I knew many retired Americans who had to move out of Copa because the price for rent was too high!

6) The powers that be shut down Karla Models. No more ordering 3 girls at a time for a 2 hour orgy for only 100 bucks.

7) The price for Airplane tickets went thru the roof! 1800 damn dollars for a coach seat!

8) Many tourists (Especially Black Americans) stopped going to Rio and started going to Sosua or other destinations.

9) They closed the Bar section of Balcony.

10) Many of the girls could no longer afford to live 4-5 deep in a Copa apartment because there weren't enough tourists for them to make money. During that time, I knew about 25 girls who got married and moved to America. I can only imagine how many relocated to Europe.

All those factors came together to kill the freelance scene in Copa! If you go to hoe beach now, you will be lucky if you see 3 girls working. Meia Pataca has no hoes, it's strictly European tourists. Those waiters look so sad standing around that empty restaurant.

What is the new name of terma Cancun. I thought it was Casablanca but that is dolce vita. Is that correct.

Question about [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. Is it the biggest escort site in Rio now. It looks amazing and a lot of the girls are posting 100 reals for an hour. Can I expect bait and switch. What experiences do you guys have with this site.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665195]Question about [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. Is it the biggest escort site in Rio now. It looks amazing and a lot of the girls are posting 100 reals for an hour. Can I expect bait and switch. What experiences do you guys have with this site.[/QUOTE]It's a legit site. There is some bait and switch but it's easy to spot. If you find an ad with a girl who looks like she just walked off the pages of Vogue magazine for only 100 R an hour, its pretty obvious its fake. The only real gripe I have to the site is that some of the females don't list their rate, so when they see a foreign number pop up on the whatsapp, they inflate the price. (You won't find reviews for every girl on the brasilian forums, so you can't cross check the price for each one).

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665183]What is the new name of terma Cancun. I thought it was Casablanca but that is dolce vita. Is that correct.[/QUOTE]All wrong, mixing up centro, Copa, termas, stripclub, disco.

How old are those photos?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2664906]Your posts remind me of my very first trip to Brazil. You see, I had my own "Suellen" then (in the photos). She was from Belo Horizonte LOL! Met her at the now defunct Barbarella nightclub. Thing is, she looked just like she belonged in that other "BH" (Beverly Hills). That is, until she opened her mouth that is. Very heavy (and beautiful) Brazilian-accented English. I remember too that her butt hole was so tight that it was one of the few times in my long and storied cornholing career that I couldn't "enter" hahaha! Should have used my patented missionary anal "frango" technique LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665195]Question about [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. Is it the biggest escort site in Rio now. It looks amazing and a lot of the girls are posting 100 reals for an hour. Can I expect bait and switch. What experiences do you guys have with this site.[/QUOTE]Like Bravo said, there are fakes, but more often photos are just photoshopped, or simply date back to better times before the new kid (or 2) or a newly shaped belly came into the picture. A live Zap videochat can cure that ailment, and if she refuses to chat you'll know why.

Interestingly, though, I've had be&S on more than one occasion that would turn into a great session; girls, like airlines, often overbook and send their girlfriends instead rather than lose business. Of course, you can't always count on a positive outcome, LOL.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665195]Question about [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL]. Is it the biggest escort site in Rio now. It looks amazing and a lot of the girls are posting 100 reals for an hour. Can I expect bait and switch. What experiences do you guys have with this site.[/QUOTE]Like other bm'ers have mentioned in the past, any doubt or uncertainty about these PhotoAcompanhantes girls can be instantly eliminated with a simple request for a short video chat confirmation call. If she refuses, maybe so should you.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2664976]The demise of the hoe triangle (Beach, Meia Pataca, Help) came down to the PERFECT STORM!! Many factors occurred within a 3 to 4 year period that killed the sex scene in Copa.[/QUOTE]Had you written this for my Applied Econ class I'd of given you an A+.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2665259]All wrong, mixing up centro, Copa, termas, stripclub, disco.[/QUOTE]I don't remember Brazil ever having a strip club like la Isla in Medellin. So is Terma Cancun still open. I really liked that one. It was rather large. What is Casablanca. Is that a terma or club.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2665253]It's a legit site. There is some bait and switch but it's easy to spot. If you find an ad with a girl who looks like she just walked off the pages of Vogue magazine for only 100 R an hour, its pretty obvious its fake. The only real gripe I have to the site is that some of the females don't list their rate, so when they see a foreign number pop up on the whatsapp, they inflate the price. (You won't find reviews for every girl on the brasilian forums, so you can't cross check the price for each one).[/QUOTE]I get a new what's app every time I go somewhere with the number of the sim I buy in that country. I delete it when I leave. If I really like a girl I will write it down and keep it for next trip. I don't like having a constant WhatsApp that is connected to my house. Too many bad things can happen.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2665317]Like Bravo said, there are fakes, but more often photos are just photoshopped, or simply date back to better times before the new kid (or 2) or a newly shaped belly came into the picture. A live Zap videochat can cure that ailment, and if she refuses to chat you'll know why.

Interestingly, though, I've had be&S on more than one occasion that would turn into a great session; girls, like airlines, often overbook and send their girlfriends instead rather than lose business. Of course, you can't always count on a positive outcome, LOL.[/QUOTE]One thing I like about the site is a lot of the pictures look more like cell phone pictures and not professionally done pictures and you can use a filter by age no condom BJ and real tits vs fakes. The other escort sites don't let you do that.

[QUOTE=Mexidan;2664859]I really miss Help. That said, There are still plenty of late night options on / near Avenida Atlntica. Part of that is Mabs and Dolce Vita. There are also other late night bars too in the area. What exists now is a bit of a smaller scale and more spread out.

As for the beach, there are still plenty of freelancers. The difference now is that it's not as overt as before. To overcome this, you have to make conversation with girls on the beach or the hawkers (who will point them out and make introductions). To avoid the markup as a result of third party interference, you got to collect numbers and reach out via text. It is more work than what it was, and that's why any trip to Rio should be a minimum 14 days so to get adjusted and maximize opportunities by building up your contact lists of girls.

The big positive in terms of changes is the safety of Avenida Atlntica at night. Gone are the trannys, scam artists and robbers. There are a lot more people out late night and small little parties up and down the street. Portuguese speaking abilities maximize your enjoyment opportunities![/QUOTE]The strange thing is I thought with the economy being in the toilet with Covid the last 2 years, there would be hookers all over the beach now in Copacabana since Brazil is open again. Don't the locals pay for hookers too. One thing about Medellin was how many more hookers I saw in in park Lleras compared to 4 years ago. They were everywhere.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2663326]Yeah, sadly I can confirm the present situation in Copa. Mabs was a big nothing when I stopped by there around midnight on an October Friday night. There was only one attractive girl in the place and she was already taken. The rest of the girls were not what I consider fuck quality. Monte Carlo failed to impress as well, but I might have arrived there too early. I will try it again later in the evening before I make any final judgement. Then over in Ipanema I have mixed feelings about Centaurus. On the one hand I hooked up with a good looking girl who was really passionate in bed, but on the other hand the total cost was 900 br or something outrageous like that and I have not been back since.

So yeah, I wish I had been in RJ back in the day when Help Disco was rocking and there were pick up girls on the beach. It must have been something. But now is what matters. I don't mind travelling cross town to find some friendly, good looking girls and have a good time. But I am curious. What about Casablanca Club? I will have to check it out when I return to RJ.[/QUOTE]Axel, you really did miss something. It was very cool in the daytime to change things up and go hunting on the beach. Help was a change from the termas which was a change from the beach and so on. Everybody there had the same routine. I don't think anyone back then saw the Jesus statue once. LOL.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2662852]LOL ten years ago the dollar to the real was for $1. 70 you got 1 real. Today and it has come down unfortunately in recent weeks it's 5. 25 reais to 1. So 200 real divided by 1. 70 reais is $117 dollars. So $117 dollars x 5. 25 = 614 reais. The equivalent amount of 200 reais 10 years ago is 614 reais today. But in Mabs maybe you can get 1 for 300 or 400 reais depending on timeframe and beauty level. You may also want to add to your list a club called Dolce Vita, the girls could be good but the cashier will try to rip you off, so be careful. Dolce vita is like a mini Help.[/QUOTE]That's why I quit going to Rio after my last trip 10 years ago. The exchange rate was awful. You needed 500 a day to have the same fun 15 years ago for 100 a day.

Vagabundo is off to a great pernoite with Anne Amari. She is 19. She is pretty, and very petite. We fucked in all positions for 30 minutes or more. We watched Ana Foxxx's scene with Mick Blue, Annika Albright, and two morenas, including one from Wisconsin, who may be my perfect woman in her resemblance to Monica Mattos. All the time, I was thinking of a dupla with Anne Amari and Monica Mattos, but Monica doesn't do BBFS yet, and Anne Amari does. Anne Amari is studying to be a nurse. 300 pernoite.

Sunday, 23 h, Mosaico. The ISG crew is having it's weekly meet up. Who is in? Confirm with Senor Nounce or Senor Jimmyboy.

Getting girls out of tier 1 termas.

Senor Earp et al.

Not sure if I am answering your question, so let me know.

The owners are the Ribeiros, Vitor and Tito (and RIP to their recently deceased, beloved father who appears to have lived a good life). They are there until closing. As for getting the girls out of the club:

1. The Ribeiros know well they can't stop or even slow down guests at 4 x4 getting numbers.

2. What they can do is try -- *try -- to fuck you (remember fucking gringos is the main industry of Rio, if not Brazil). So. Yes. They will state that their policy is to take 1100 tax for pernoite, which ends at 02 h (which happened to an ISGer, who I will not name, as ISGers get offended by fellow ISGers calling out their behavior, which is another topic, about which I have and will write). A pernoite ending at 02 h is just plain effing stupid. A Pernoite ends the next day at 12 h or 14 h, when you lie exhausted from continuous fucking and sucking on an off for sex for 7 out of 14 hours. See my report on Alexia Belucci, who used to be Ingra, at 4 x4. They will try to take this tax, which is crazy, by stating that is their policy. There is something called the power distance index (see Gladwell's book, I forgot which one). Latin America has a high power distance index. Poets, priests and politicians have words to thank for their position to quote sting; policeman and pimps too, I might add -- that is 5 P's. So if a pimp who employs a good English speaking 50 ish kind of Milfish receptionist tells you it is 1100 to take a girl pernoite and they will ensure she acts right, there is always a greater fool, a rookie monger, who will believe that is the correct authority, and that 4 x4 has power to ensure she will act right. So. Don't believe them.

3. If you want to get a number, you take the girl to a different part of the club to "conversar". Vamos no outro quarto (the smoking room in back) para conversar. She will go with you. There are fewer eyes, there are walk ways. You can get a number there. You get the number, then it is mission accomplished, game on. You text her simple instructions: "500 pernoite, ave gastao senges 395, barra, vou manda uber ida e volta, pago depois" something like that. Meaning 500 reais pernoite. My address. I will send an uber to and from for you. I will pay after.

In Mosaico, you can take the girl out to the smoking deck at the front. The management will still try to stop you getting numbers, but if you can count from 1 to 10 in Porto, you can get numbers. If you can't count from 1 to 10 in Porto, don't get on the plane.

In perola, there is a smoking area, an open air place out front. Perola across from P1 at barra is a best location. All mongers should want to live there. Prime spot. Walking distance to metro jardim oceanico.

4. Finally, as conclusive proof that the ribeiros know they can't stop you from getting numbers, they even have a fkn website.

[URL]https://4x4class.com.br/[/URL]

That website is run by the Ribeiros. I've talked to them about it. Oh, the best dancers there are Penelope and Renata. You can sit in Fort Lauderdale (or anywhere in the United States) ie Puritan Pussy Prison and obsess over the 4 x 4 girls all you want now, because it is on the internet. Everyone fucks Penelope, callsign Annette Schwartz, she is from Minas Gerais, she likes hiking (not the beach), yadda yadda bla bla bla, now you even have game with her to wife her up, you won't be the first guy who tried, and of course, she really likes favela punk 19 year olds because she is 18. Do you think the Ribeiros can collect 1100 for you to click on her number and start talking with her now that they have put her face, her pussy and ass, and her number on the internet?

So, does that answer your question? I see lots of reports about 4 x4 from OG, and the readers of this board who are not actually in Brazil are weighing in. I can save you the trouble of actually going to 4 x4, I just told you the names and how to get the numbers of the two best dancers in 4 x4. Now you can fill up your dance card from Puritan Pussy Prison without even paying $50 reais for a razor to shave your balls, or $22 for a Heineken for a girl to drink while she grabs another guy's dick.

And as a closing note, I will offer you the words of Sammy Hagar, which will apply to some of the ISGers on this board, who are spending a week or two in Rio, and are putting out thousands of words on their week in Valhalla:

I'll Fall In Love Again. YouTube.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com[/URL] › watch.

Lyrics.

You do what you want to do.

I'll leave it all up to you.

In time, I'll find love again.

Hot love growin' cold.

Just when you thought you'd found a heart of gold.

Looks like, I've been fooled again.

Oh but it's all right with me now.

I'll get back up somehow.

And with a little luck I'm bound to win.

And I'll fall in love, I'll fall in love again.

And you're always sittin' ring side.

Just a rollin' with the changing tide.

The tide has washed you from my mind.

And I guess you think you've got it made.

Oh but then you never were afraid.

Of anything that you've left behind.

Oh but it's all right with me now.

I'll get back up somehow.

And with a little luck yes I'm bound to win.

'Cause I'll fall in love, yes I'll fall in love again.

Yea, yea, yea, oh yea.

Yea, yea, yea, oh yea.

I'll fall in love again.

I'll fall in love again baby.

I said "I, I'll fall in love again".

Yes I'll fall in love again.

Here's something to compare it to.

Like the little things you used to do.

Like giving more than you take.

Funny how the reasons grow.

Then the very next thing you know.

The odds change, dividing up the cake.

Hey but it's all right with me now.

I'll get back up somehow.

And with a little luck yes I'm bound to win.

'Cause I'll fall in love.

Yes it's all right with me now.

Don't worry 'about me baby I'll get along somehow.

Yes it's all right.

Yes it's all right.

Yea will you do what you want to do?

Oh yes it's all right with me now.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2664439]OG,

I love your reports on current action on the ground. I love the contrasts between you and your buddy.

I hate to be the serious, big brother here. Americans (or other foreigners) get chuckled off for our "flagrant" behaviors until we don't. We don't know if the owners were present late one night how they would react.

This would a great topic for Vagabundo to weigh in on.[/QUOTE]

While I respect senor anaggie's and senor Mr. E's views, I must respectfully and very strongly disagree.

Here are 5 great food / sex combinations which are best in world. I will set up some of these events this week.

We will go over to VM, as we did last Sunday. I will be more proactive this week in planning other ISG pussy patrols: 1. Mosaico / Aconchega Carioca.

2. Darkroom / Centro Termas / Cais do Orieinte, (close to 4 x 4 too, excellent food).

3. Super Upscale Sushi place / Solarium, JJ Seabrea.

4. Marius seafood / Monte Carlo.

5. Na brasa Colombia, Olegario Maciel / Perola Negra in Barra, Posto 1. (Na Brasa Colombia is also in Botafogo, Copa, Recreio).

Indeed, I could easily do food / sex tours. A brit I met here does that.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2664047]This right here is my feeling exactly. And why I prefer the food in SP. In Rio, it is all the same. Some overcooked beef, rice with broccoli, beans, fries and that shit called farofa. I always carry my dried chili packets with me to spice things up. But I can't eat the same shit day in and day out.

In SP, I can have my variety which of course is more expensive but oh well. Eat good and live good!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665381]

4. Finally, as conclusive proof that the ribeiros know they can't stop you from getting numbers, they even have a fkn website.

[URL]https://4x4class.com.br/[/URL]

That website is run by the Ribeiros. I've talked to them about it. Oh, the best dancers there are Penelope and Renata. You can sit in Fort Lauderdale (or anywhere in the United States) ie Puritan Pussy Prison and obsess over the 4 x 4 girls all you want now, because it is on the internet. Everyone fucks Penelope, callsign Annette Schwartz, she is from Minas Gerais, she likes hiking (not the beach), yadda yadda bla bla bla, now you even have game with her to wife her up, you won't be the first guy who tried, and of course, she really likes favela punk 19 year olds because she is 18. Do you think the Ribeiros can collect 1100 for you to click on her number and start talking with her now that they have put her face, her pussy and ass, and her number on the internet?[/QUOTE]This is crazy. Why are they doing that? The website I understand, but why list the numbers? Doesn't make sense to me, at all.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665391]While I respect senor anaggie's and senor Mr. E's views, I must respectfully and very strongly disagree.

Here are 5 great food / sex combinations which are best in world. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I happen to love Brazilian food, and yes, typical Brazilian fare is simple, but I'm easy to please.

The thing about classy joints in Rio like Marius or some super-duper sushi places (Sushi Leblon or something) is they're costly as fuck, just like upscale restaurants in NY or LA. I mean there is nothing wrong about it, but living in NYC I don't find gorging on finer food in Rio all that alluring. I highly recommend Lima for an incredible culinary journey on the cheap, but that's a totally different story, LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2665472]... I happen to love Brazilian food, and yes, typical Brazilian fare is simple, but I'm easy to please..[/QUOTE]I like farofa. It is pretty good to go with meat on skewer. Haha. I don't get feijoada but I think it is not just bean when you have a whole meal based on it. It came with quite a few other things that took up the whole table. I agree Lima is incredible.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665381]...3. If you want to get a number, you take the girl to a different part of the club to "conversar". Vamos no outro quarto (the smoking room in back) para conversar...[/QUOTE]I think I can bring a bag of fortune cookies with me to give to the girls. The [B]fortune[/B] inside will be my number. hehe

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665381]Getting girls out of tier 1 termas.

Senor Earp et al.

Not sure if I am answering your question, so let me know.

The owners are the Ribeiros, Vitor and Tito (and RIP to their recently deceased, beloved father who appears to have lived a good life). They are there until closing. As for getting the girls out of the club:

1. The Ribeiros know well they can't stop or even slow down guests at 4 x4 getting numbers.

2. What they can do is try -- *try -- to fuck you (remember fucking gringos is the main industry of Rio, if not Brazil). So. Yes. They will state that their policy is to take 1100 tax for pernoite, which ends at 02 h (which happened to an ISGer, who I will not name, as ISGers get offended by fellow ISGers calling out their behavior, which is another topic, about which I have and will write)..[/QUOTE]Do they call her Annette Schwartz because of her oral skills or because she looks like her.

The locals go to mosaico and vm, and zona norte boates like black and white in bonsuccesso. The locals also go onto [URL]gparena.net[/URL]. What is happening from my experience the last 15 years is the best girls get snatched by the richest locals very quickly, so the top end quality is lower, ie, you don't have mayara rodrigues which I had fucked 3 times, you don't have some of the best Monica mattos clones around for long. When you find them, you get on the roller coaster, and hold on until it's time to move on.

As for beach pick ups, look at yourself in the mirror. There are a lot of girls but do they want you.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665346]The strange thing is I thought with the economy being in the toilet with Covid the last 2 years, there would be hookers all over the beach now in Copacabana since Brazil is open again. Don't the locals pay for hookers too. One thing about Medellin was how many more hookers I saw in in park Lleras compared to 4 years ago. They were everywhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2665494]I like farofa. It is pretty good to go with meat on skewer. Haha.[/QUOTE]Can't stand it. Tastes like sawdust to me!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665381]Getting girls out of tier 1 termas.

Senor Earp et al.

Not sure if I am answering your question, so let me know.

The owners are the Ribeiros, Vitor and Tito (and RIP to their recently deceased, beloved father who appears to have lived a good life). They are there until closing. As for getting the girls out of the club:

1. The Ribeiros know well they can't stop or even slow down guests at 4 x4 getting numbers.

2. What they can do is try -- *try -- to fuck you (remember fucking gringos is the main industry of Rio, if not Brazil). So. Yes. They will state that their policy is to take 1100 tax for pernoite, which ends at 02 h (which happened to an ISGer, who I will not name, as ISGers get offended by fellow ISGers calling out their behavior, which is another topic, about which I have and will write)..[/QUOTE]I sent every girl on that site a question regarding services / price. So far some of them quote the 400 as in 4 x 4 but some only want 150 or 200 per hour.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2665522]Can't stand it. Tastes like sawdust to me![/QUOTE]There is no question that I prefer double fried French fries, a fresh baguette, or a good plate of Italian pasta among other foodie items when I want to eat some flavorful, heavy, carbs with a high caloric density. But Farofa does not have to taste like bland sawdust. I think it depends on who is doing the cooking and what seasonings and herbs they include to make the dish a little more palatable. That said, I won't miss farofa if I never have it again for the rest of my life. KKK. It's mash potatoes to me.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2665609]...I think it depends on who is doing the cooking and what seasonings and herbs they include to make the dish a little more palatable. ...[/QUOTE]It is common to have it with BBQ skewer from street food. That is where I had them most of the time. There is certain way to eat local food. I usually observe and do what the locals do. They don't eat it by itself like fries. The combine different ingredients together like they are cooking on their table. Feijoada will come with farofa, rice and green but I don't like farofa when eating this way. There are a lot of regional food in Brazil. I don't keep tracks but even rice dish has a lot of variety.

Hi fellas,

So I am back in sex prison but I wanted to let you guys know how my trip was in Rio.

In general I enjoyed this trip alot more than the last time, I put this to the basic portuguese I learned before arrival and had the possibility talking without using a translator all the time.

So guys learn some Portuguese before going and I promise you it will help a lot and the girls treat you better if you are not another fucking gringo who doesn't speak a word.

Back to my Report.

Before arrival I connected with Cholatehuntr and Vagabundo to meet up which I really enjoyed. They shoved me around and we were able to hunt together a few times.

Boates / Termas:

4 x 4 (Centro).

A Therma but you can stay in your clothes and has around 20-25 girls. The main days are Wed-Thur-Fridays. Session is 410 BRL for an Hour and the girls are good but I felt like they were more business oriented then just relax and have fun. But I found a hot small falsa loira, 24 years old who was fun and freaky. I sessioned with her in the club and did a pernoite for 800 BRL. I still have contact with her and will meet (Vagabundo don't fuck this up for me her in my coming trip in January. The rooms are small and not really good but they do the job.

Perola Negra (Barra the Tijuca Posto 1).

A Boate not a Therma with a dance floor in the middle and seating around the dance floor. The main days are Thursday-Friday. Session is 360 for 40 min for each girls and the rooms are nice. The first time I went with Vagabundo and I didn't find anything to my liking and it was very slow (Monday). The second time I went alone and wanted a threesome. I picked a little morena 22 years old and a blonde dominant girl 24 years old. We chilled drank for around 2 hours and they stripped for me and danced after the first bottle of champagne (order the Brazilian Champagne Chandon which is cheap and doesn't taste that bad actually). The session wasnt as good as imagined because the blonde was basically waiting until I I fucked her and didn't really mingle with the morena. The Morena however was exactly what I needed. A freaky ass licking submissive * who liked getting spanked and choked and spited on. I basically fucked her for 30 minutes and the other 10 minutes she was licking my ass while I was fucking the loira. I wanted to see her again but didn't have the chance unfortunately.

Solarium (Gavea close to the Lake behind Ipanema).

A Therma with a very solid selection. Its quite small but has around 20 girls which do not go directly to the customers if they are not invited over. The session was 600 BRL for 1 hour and some change money as entrance. I was there with another ISG Menber SocratesNY I think. I ordered some Champagne and had to drink it all by myself and picked one brunette from Minais after an hour or so. She was a solid ninfeta around 27 years old with a little gym body. The session was good but I was in rush to pop so I invited her over the next day. We went to a swing club ASHA in Barra which was interesting but I dindt see anything for which I would give my ninfeta to another guy. So went back to my Hotel I fucked her for 3 hours with 4 pops and all bareback. I liked her but she was a little upset because I was able to fuck her for 3 hours. I guess she imagined I couldn't do that.

Mosaico (Villa Mimosa).

This is a Boate which starts around midnight. The girls were to my surprise quite solid and had some nice girls with solid bodys. I was with Vagabundo again and picked I guess the only blonde in the club. We mostly talked on the outside and went in afterwards for a stripshow. Session was good and rooms where to my surprise better then 4 x4. Session was good but nothing to brag about. Getting Numbers there is quite hard as they are not allowed to give numbers but Vagabundo still managed to get some as he is a Vagabundo. Damage was 500 (biger room) for the session.

Marrakech (Copacabana in front of Hilton Hotel).

A small boate. This place has some good selection but is always empty I don't know why. I picked up a branca which I saw in my first visit with Chocolatehuntr and decided to take her for a pernoite. Exit fee was 150 BRL and the girl asked for 1000 BRL which I agreed because she was hot and actually spoke decent english. What pissed me off was the guy at the entrance who asked for a tip while we were leaving. I told him why he would even think I would give him a tip and he responded because he is a nice guy. Well I told him that I wasnt so sure about that and left. The night was chill and with 2 pops and some extensive oral which she was in to. But she was in generall a more relaxed girl and I dindt even took her number.

Monte Carlo (3 Blocks away from Copacabana Palace).

This Therma has seen its best days. Everything looks quite old and I was the only customer. The Girls were nearly pushing away the other to get my attention which I didn't like. I saw a loira who didn't care about me and was just looking in the mirror and saw me looking and smiled. I went over and asked if she wants to come to my place since Monte Carlo is closing in 1 hour. She said sure but I want 600 BRL and only if I pay her the uber the next morning. Deal and I just hanged around with her and left 5 minutes before closing and waited in a bar close by. She wanted to smoke some weed and I did wanted to try again (last time was maybe around 5 years ago). It did the thrick as I was stoned but not to much and we fucked thill the sun rised. After 2 Pops she asked if could do it bareback for which I responded with only a smile and threw her into the bed and fucked her for another hour. Was a great night with her and I still keep contact with her. She sends me actually some nudes every now and then.

Dating Apps / Online Escorts:

Tinder.

This app doesn't work for me at all. I had very few matches, only met 2 girls and fucked just one with a boring session. So not even worth to try again.

Seeking Arrangement.

Well this was the big surprise. At first glance there are a lot of fakes and girls with to much "I ony meet with millionaires" but once you sorted them out you can find some raw gems. I met with 4 girls from SA and every one of them I fucked bareback. I repeated with 3 of them several times and paid always between 800 and 1000 BRL for a Pernoite which mostly meant 24 hours. The days with these girls are basically pure GFE were we would go to the beach, dinner, drinks and fuck as much as we can. I really enjoyed that and was my main thing to do. A morena and professional Ballerina with 19 years who is submissive and has a body even Monica Matthos whould be eager to have, a Loira from outside of Rio who begged me to nut inside her or the party girl who just was fun to be with. Well these girls are obviously not regular hookers, but normal girls who need some money and do these "encontros" to get by are my main targets for future trips. That doesn't mean I will stop to monger. Just make sure that you always and I mean always meet them in a bar or coffeeshop before sending any money or anything. Like I said there are a lot of fakes but also a few gems.

BarraVipsRio / Private55.

This Escorts are legit, and are asking for 500-700 BRL per hour. I met with 2 of them and the sessions were good but I was spoiled by my seeking girls and they don't stand a chance. But if you need only looks with a quick and solid session, its quite a good option.

Photoacompanhantes.

This website has a lot of fakes. I tried to find a reliable good looking girls but failed and gave up. To much work for a possible fake girl so I didn't bother to long.

So that was it, regarding Mongering.

Have fun guys and enjoy this city as it has a lot to offer. I will be there again in January next year.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2665659]It is common to have it with BBQ skewer from street food. That is where I had them most of the time. There is certain way to eat local food. I usually observe and do what the locals do. They don't eat it by itself like fries. The combine different ingredients together like they are cooking on their table. Feijoada will come with farofa, rice and green but I don't like farofa when eating this way. There are a lot of regional food in Brazil. I don't keep tracks but even rice dish has a lot of variety.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have eaten it as one of several condiments served for seasoning along side a bowl Feijoada, but I have also been served farofa as a side dish sharing the plate with fish or chicken. See the attached photo.

Toasted Manioc Flour With Eggs and Scallions.

In the six years since I was last here a lot has changed, but much is still the same. Despite the IBIS Centro turning out to be a dud (anal retentive guest access and creaky beds to name a few gripes) it was great being in Centro and walking distance from the Termas' and Prive's.

The girls seem to be making some effort with English, but it's maybe a decade until there is a transition and I think universal translators will be in place by then.

I'the only ever sessioned in Prive's before so the new variety of options really opened up a new dimension to the trip, and in the end I didn't have to call in any of the online fallbacks I had bookmarked. I remember Raftaar's posts from last year and his hits and misses with Photo / Barra VIP's so it's definitely an option; I just didn't have time to pursue it as I spent up to 3 hours a day puffing charuto's.

Standards in the two Prive's I repeated in were lower than previously (IMHO) but there is something for everyone. And things change. Look at options on GPArena or read posts by Sperto if you are a Prive main.

I had reached out to Vagabundo and also posted here asking about prices last year and to be honest, I couldn't believe you could get TLN for 400/500 reis, but it's possible. If there are folk spending 1500 at Mabs then they may be doing it wrong. Just my two cents, to each his own. Had I been here longer I could easily see myself establishing a rotation of girls at 350 max for TLN. I'the need a lot of massage oil though.

Rio was again a great place to be beyond the hobby, some of best memories of this trip are conversations about millennials or cigars in Tabacaria Africana or that view from the cable car as the fog cleared heading up to Cristo Redentor. The more we immersed ourselves, the more we enjoyed it!

My buddy's initial recollections would be along the lines of "Fucking hell, so many nice girls! I just want to fuck! The last night and that hustler changed a lot of that. We are polar opposite's in every way apart from our love of the hobby. Where as I can be too laid back or patient, he lives every minute on the front foot. We found a happy medium. We only wish we could have styled longer than 8 days total between SP / Rio. A few more trips to come this year hopefully.

Not much more needs to be said outside of the usual advice; learn some Portuguese, be nice to the ladies, give back to the forum, and stay sharp!

OG.

She's a dead ringer.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665499]Do they call her Annette Schwartz because of her oral skills or because she looks like her.[/QUOTE]

A lot of time on your hands?

[QUOTE=Tottem;2665558]I sent every girl on that site a question regarding services / price. So far some of them quote the 400 as in 4 x 4 but some only want 150 or 200 per hour.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665348]I don't think anyone back then saw the Jesus statue once. LOL.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter. Wherever you go in Rio, he's watching over you.

[QUOTE=Chege;2665678]Seeking Arrangement.

Well this was the big surprise. At first glance there are a lot of fakes and girls with to much "I ony meet with millionaires" but once you sorted them out you can find some raw gems. I met with 4 girls from SA and every one of them I fucked bareback. I repeated with 3 of them several times and paid always between 800 and 1000 BRL for a Pernoite which mostly meant 24 hours. The days with these girls are basically pure GFE were we would go to the beach, dinner, drinks and fuck as much as we can. I really enjoyed that and was my main thing to do. A morena and professional Ballerina with 19 years who is submissive and has a body even Monica Matthos whould be eager to have, a Loira from outside of Rio who begged me to nut inside her or the party girl who just was fun to be with. Well these girls are obviously not regular hookers, but normal girls who need some money and do these "encontros" to get by are my main targets for future trips. That doesn't mean I will stop to monger. Just make sure that you always and I mean always meet them in a bar or coffeeshop before sending any money or anything. Like I said there are a lot of fakes but also a few gems.[/QUOTE]Chege,

Was wondering if you could say just a little bit more about how hard or easy it was for you to find those gems using the Seeking site in Brazil? I have been on it for nearly two months now in the States, and I got to say that although I scored an absolute grand slam home run in the first month (currently barebacking an attractive blue-eyed blonde American "gringa" and nutting inside of her at a very favorable price per American standards of $250), it's one hell of a lot of work with a lot of fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers! I mean you really have to put in a lot of time, and right now I'm not confident I will make another big score anytime soon. I'm wondering if it's any different in Brazil in terms of how much effort you need to put in just to meet one real winner.

[QUOTE=Chege;2665678]Hi fellas,

So I am back in sex prison but I wanted to let you guys know how my trip was in Rio.

[/QUOTE]Sounds like had quite a few home runs. Congrats!

Thanks Chege.

Vagabundo, the station chief of the Swiss Navy pussy intel section in Rio de Janeiro concurs! I hereby nominate Senor Chege for a Swiss Navy Cross of Iron for pussy hunting.

Not only did Chege learn some Porto, he's a good wingman as a MMA guy, so he's confident with the ladies, which the ladies respect. It was a pleasure hunting, he's in the class of a Chocolatehuntr in our exalted profession, a profession which is a luxury.

My only suggestion would be to un-fck your affairs so you can be in Rio all the time.

Vagabundo sends.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2665768]Sounds like had quite a few home runs. Congrats![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2665759]Chege,

Was wondering if you could say just a little bit more about how hard or easy it was for you to find those gems using the Seeking site in Brazil? I have been on it for nearly two months now in the States, and I got to say that although I scored an absolute grand slam home run in the first month (currently barebacking an attractive blue-eyed blonde American "gringa" and nutting inside of her at a very favorable price per American standards of $250), it's one hell of a lot of work with a lot of fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers! I mean you really have to put in a lot of time, and right now I'm not confident I will make another big score anytime soon. I'm wondering if it's any different in Brazil in terms of how much effort you need to put in just to meet one real winner.[/QUOTE]Well I am quite a newbie in the SA game but yes it took a lot of work. In SP I wasn't able to meet anyone and I contacted a lot but in Rio I changed my description to Portuguese and did hide a few pictures just to get them interested.

My experience is to look for the ones without any tattoos, any pictures of fancy places and being very direct which meant Hi I'm just for a few weeks here and would like to meet you, interested?" this opened often a direct conversation without all the bullshit and I they were assured I am serious. Also keep an eye to when their Account was created, if its mire then 1 year, I didn't even bother because they are obviously pros.

When they asked for Money upfront I blocked them right away. I get their whatsapp fairly quick and contact them right away with my offer. I also mentioned that I would like to meet before we have an agreement and in the worst case she would have a nice conversation with and we would separate in peace.

Well maybe I was just lucky to but I guess it was good that I spoke some Portuguese because 3 of the 4 girls I met didn't speak any English.

Charge, great trip report. What is the biggest strip club in Rio or boate as it's called. How much are lap dances. One thing I missed about Tijuana were the seedy not as crowded strip clubs like peanuts and beer and Madonnas where you could get lab dances for 5 dollars and sample the inventory before picking one for later.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665998]Charge, great trip report. What is the biggest strip club in Rio or boate as it's called. How much are lap dances. One thing I missed about Tijuana were the seedy not as crowded strip clubs like peanuts and beer and Madonnas where you could get lab dances for 5 dollars and sample the inventory before picking one for later.[/QUOTE]Lap dances? I've never seen any paid lap dances in Brazil. It's probably something that happens more in the US because prostitution isn't legal but in Rio just take her to a room and bang her, why bother pay for a dance. I've never been to Tijuana for mongering so it might happen there but I've never seen it in Rio.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2666039]Lap dances? I've never seen any paid lap dances in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Tell him to leave those bad habits where he got them from.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2666039]I've never been to Tijuana for mongering so it might happen there but I've never seen it in Rio.[/QUOTE]Yes, they happen in Tijuana. A bad gringo influence from across the border. It crack's me up seeing gringos trying to tip dancers with dollar bills in certain Latin American countries too, like Colombia. They would be routinely ignored, standing there looking stupid, while the guys in the know understood the culture and what to do. Bring her a drink or a "traiga" and watch her gulp them down, one by one!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2666045]Tell him to leave those bad habits where he got them from.[/QUOTE]Almost as bad as the idiot I saw at 4 x4 making it rain when the girls were dancing! I wanted to punch him in the face!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2666054]Almost as bad as the idiot I saw at 4 x4 making it rain when the girls were dancing! I wanted to punch him in the face!![/QUOTE]Exactly my friend. Exactly! Keep that shit up north someplace where it belongs (unfortunately)!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665998]Charge, great trip report. What is the biggest strip club in Rio or boate as it's called. How much are lap dances. One thing I missed about Tijuana were the seedy not as crowded strip clubs like peanuts and beer and Madonnas where you could get lab dances for 5 dollars and sample the inventory before picking one for later.[/QUOTE]Hey,

You misunderstood something with Boates. They are not stripclubs, they are pick-up clubs with working girls in it. Sometimes they work in the club like in Scandallo in SP (which is the biggest and most fancy boate I know of) or they are freelancers line in Casarao also in SP or Dolce Vita in Rio. I newer tip the girls, they get what we agreed upon before we session. I only tip underpaid waitresses or housekeeping staff. I expect the girls who I am with to dance for me and entertain me because I also threat them right, with respect, make them feel conftable with me. I pay them drinks or whatever but cash they only get what we agreed upon.

Never put yourself in a spot were you are a money pig. If they have this impression of you, your night will turn mostly to the bad side or will get even dangerous. That's doesn't mean you can't spend big money but always make sure that this girls know you are no idiot with to much money. Never drink more than you can handle and always keep your guard up.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665735]A lot of time on your hands?[/QUOTE]Software collects the numbers almost instantly and then I bulk send on WhatsApp.

That's straight up Male Loneliness in America / Brazil. Withdrawal syndrome.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2666045]Tell him to leave those bad habits where he got them from.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2665998]Charge, great trip report. What is the biggest strip club in Rio or boate as it's called. How much are lap dances. One thing I missed about Tijuana were the seedy not as crowded strip clubs like peanuts and beer and Madonnas where you could get lab dances for 5 dollars and sample the inventory before picking one for later.[/QUOTE]You can buy her a drink if you feel generous, but like others have said, there is no need to tip them in Rio. Wave her over and she'll be all over (and in) your crotch for as long as you want, and they would normally welcome you to reciprocate, LOL. That's one reason I love termas. Wearing a robe makes is great for easy opening, LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2666165]You can buy her a drink if you feel generous, but like others have said, there is no need to tip them in Rio. Wave her over and she'll be all over (and in) your crotch for as long as you want, and they would normally welcome you to reciprocate, LOL. That's one reason I love termas. Wearing a robe makes is great for easy opening, LOL.[/QUOTE]I know how termas work. It sounded like there are now strip clubs there which I don't remember seeing.

The prices for the meals -- compared to NYC or LA -- is still cheap.

Let's see.

Aconchega Carioca, top dish there is a pumpkin stuffed with shrimp, $200 reais.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/aconchego.carioca/[/URL]

Cais do Oriente (where I ate today with two ISGers), the excellent prixe fixe menu is $70 reais plus beverage (I recommend the lemonade suisse). That's $14 US Dollars. For a 3 course meal. 100 meters from 4 x4 and 65.

[URL]https://caisdooriente-rj.com.br/[/URL]

Marius in Leme.

[URL]http://marius.com.br/[/URL]

The all you can eat is $250 reais. Expect $300 with drinks and other charges. But all you can eat oysters, etc. Badass.

Na Brasa Colombia, Barra, Olegario Maciel 7 (closest terma, and best IMHO for all Rio, is Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400).

[URL]https://nabrasacolumbia.com.br/barra/[/URL]

You can expect to pay $250 all in. $160 for salmao na brasa, or my favorite, filet de peixe bel munier, for enough to serve 2. Again, I recommend the limonade suisse. The salada caprese is excellent. Everything is good. Locations all over Rio, including Botafogo, Copa, Recreio. Botafogo is the original, and it is located at the top of the social economic food chain (Exec Talent will hate me for saying that). Again, that's $50 US Dollars, which is not all that much in the rich world, $250 reais is a few fucks in Rio, so it is valuable consideration.

OK, all that said, what it is harder to get in those rich world venues you mention like LA or NYC is cheap, good, super hot Carioca pussy. That's the point. The top tier food and top tier hoar combination goes a long, long way towards being about all that a man wants in life -- the 6 s's -- shit, shower, shave, supper, sex, sleep.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2665472]The thing about classy joints in Rio like Marius or some super-duper sushi places (Sushi Leblon or something) is they're costly as fuck, just like upscale restaurants in NY or LA. I mean there is nothing wrong about it, but living in NYC I don't find gorging on finer food in Rio all that alluring. I highly recommend Lima for an incredible culinary journey on the cheap, but that's a totally different story, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2666039]Lap dances? I've never seen any paid lap dances in Brazil.[/QUOTE]It does exist in Brazil. In Remulos in Manaus they used to have non-stop striptease on a stage. However you could also pay for a table dance. The girls strip on your table and then makes a lapdance on all the guys sitting at the table. Often very extreme with all the guys at the table sticking up their fingers and licking both holes.

Personally I prefer to go upstairs and session with the girl. However me and a friend payed for a table / lapdance once at Remulos. I lost my voice for two days after licking the strippers cúzinho.

[QUOTE=Chege;2666076]You misunderstood something with Boates. They are not stripclubs, they are pick-up clubs with working girls in it.[/QUOTE]Nope, the word "boates" can be used for nightclubs, pick-up clubs and strip clubs.

I do my best to avoid all the sex-clubs in Copacabana as they are rip-off joints. If I'm not mistaken same of those clubs still have strip tease, Casablanca, Kalabria. Those clubs calls themselves boates. Another example, Barbarella that closed 2020 used to call itself boate or boite.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2666195]I know how termas work. It sounded like there are now strip clubs there which I don't remember seeing.[/QUOTE]That I don't know. I must've misunderstood the question, sorry.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2666196]The prices for the meals -- compared to NYC or LA -- is still cheap.

Let's see.

Aconchega Carioca, top dish there is a pumpkin stuffed with shrimp, $200 reais.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/aconchego.carioca/[/URL]

Cais do Oriente (where I ate today with two ISGers), the excellent prixe fixe menu is $70 reais plus beverage (I recommend the lemonade suisse). That's $14 US Dollars. For a 3 course meal. 100 meters from 4 x4 and 65.

[URL]https://caisdooriente-rj.com.br/[/URL]

Marius in Leme.

[URL]http://marius.com.br/[/URL]

The all you can eat is $250 reais. Expect $300 with drinks and other charges. But all you can eat oysters, etc. Badass.

Na Brasa Colombia, Barra, Olegario Maciel 7 (closest terma, and best IMHO for all Rio, is Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400).

[URL]https://nabrasacolumbia.com.br/barra/[/URL]

You can expect to pay $250 all in. $160 for salmao na brasa, or my favorite, filet de peixe bel munier, for enough to serve 2. Again, I recommend the limonade suisse. The salada caprese is excellent. Everything is good. Locations all over Rio, including Botafogo, Copa, Recreio. Botafogo is the original, and it is located at the top of the social economic food chain (Exec Talent will hate me for saying that). Again, that's $50 US Dollars, which is not all that much in the rich world, $250 reais is a few fucks in Rio, so it is valuable consideration.

OK, all that said, what it is harder to get in those rich world venues you mention like LA or NYC is cheap, good, super hot Carioca pussy. That's the point. The top tier food and top tier hoar combination goes a long, long way towards being about all that a man wants in life -- the 6 s's -- shit, shower, shave, supper, sex, sleep.[/QUOTE]Who's arguing? Me? Nah, LOL.

The thing though, Marius' 250 buffet in Leme is not for the seafood. 5-6 years ago the seafood buffet ran me around $100 plus tips (that's American 100, BTW). It was great, but not $100 great.

Now there are 2 churrascarias in NYC. One is Plataforma, the other one I don't remember; both are (were) within $30-50 range for lunch / dinner if they haven't hiked up the prices since the pandemics.

Sushi Leblon was good, but not great, and the dinner for 3 cost us over $200 although we did have a few drinks.

I'm not saying it's out of whack, but there are amazing sushi spots in Manhattan, some in the same price range or a little cheaper, some maybe slightly more.

Cais do Oriente and Na Brasa Colombia both sound fantastic, thanks. Hope to try them soon.

I'm not bashing Rio fine foods, just saying I wouldn't necessarily be looking toward spending big bucks in Rio's upscale restaurants since less pricey eateries make me happy as well.

Having said that, there is one churrascaria I love more than all others, including Marius and whatnot. Churrascaria Palace right across from Copacabana Palace. Small, intimate, classy, with quiet piano music and excellent meats. The location should make it a tourist trap, but it isn't. That and Confeitaria Colombo are two places I always visit in Rio. But I don't mind discovering more.

Interesting article about the history of the monger scene in Copacabana. Between Princesa Isabel and Duvivier there used to be 50 clubs. It seems the opening of Help made many clubs had to close.

[URL]https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/bairros/copacabana-ainda-mantem-seus-inferninhos-mas-de-forma-discreta-19610612[/URL]

The Help history is also interesting. There used to be a great mansion Casa do Vaticano. A building that was a real beauty. After the mansion was demolished Help was constructed and opened in 1984. In the beginning Help was a very popular disco attracting regular people. The disco turned into a puteiro when gringos started going there and they started to let darker girls enter. The rest we all know. Help closed in January 2010. They started to construct Museu the Imagem e do Som which would be finished in 2014.

Senor Xpartan,

I respect your views, and I hope you get to Rio sooner than later. As the economist notes, there is a pre and post pandemic world and they are not the same.

I ate at Marius less than 2 months ago with an ISGer from Italy, and it was $250 r. It's a once a month or quarter spectacular meal for those who love seafood, like me.

I will add, Cafe Marambaia in Guaratiba has the best paella I have ever had.

Cais do Oriente has become kind of a go to for centro mongering, as I was yesterday with two ISGers.

The bigger point, and the point of this thread is that Senor Anaggie and Senor Mr E were saying that all the Brazilian chow is similar. I'm just saying that there is some really good eating choices near the thing that makes Rio and Brazil unique -- the sex, which is the point of this board, after all.

Here are a few more excellent choices.

Nova Capella, Mem de Sa 96.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/nova_capela/?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL]

Contemporaneo, nearby on Gomes Freire.

[URL]https://g.page/contemporaneolapa?share[/URL]

Senor Bonhead had some recommendations in Humaita, as did Senor Bach123 in Leblon.

I take Senor Anaggie's point that there are perhaps even better restaurants, and women, in SP, but at a higher cost, and without the beach / waterfall hiking combinations which make Rio geographically unique. Its a matter of personal taste, like the Copa / Barra debate being whether you prefer Times Square (copa) or Miami and safety (Barra); SP, I know well too, but its just that I prefer actually swimming in the ocean, while also having a sex menu which is completely full from top to bottom tier, all colors, and for that Rio and Barra is optimal, perhaps a little like the Cartagena of the Marquez novels.

And without meaning any disrespect or harm whatsoever, I will suggest that some of those novellas, like Memories of my melancholy working girls by Marquez, might be a good antidote to Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome; I realize that much of what this particular board is is actually just reminiscences by men who are not in Rio, and who can only spend a small percentage of their time in Rio due to their circumstances.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2666257]The thing though, Marius' 250 buffet in Leme is not for the seafood. 5-6 years ago the seafood buffet ran me around $100 plus tips (that's American 100, BTW). It was great, but not $100 great.

Cais do Oriente and Na Brasa Colombia both sound fantastic, thanks. Hope to try them soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2666257]... Churrascaria Palace right across from Copacabana Palace. Small, intimate, classy, with quiet piano music and excellent meats. ...[/QUOTE]Haha, I like it too. It also has sushi, raw oyster. It is way too much food.

But this is my kind of food. Breakfast for 4 at station Uruguaiana, yakisoba with at RB156, great view! LOL, and night snack with farofa for 10 at Centro station.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2666274]Interesting article about the history of the monger scene in Copacabana. Between Princesa Isabel and Duvivier there used to be 50 clubs. It seems the opening of Help made many clubs had to close.

[URL]https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/bairros/copacabana-ainda-mantem-seus-inferninhos-mas-de-forma-discreta-19610612[/URL]

The Help history is also interesting. There used to be a great mansion Casa do Vaticano. A building that was a real beauty. After the mansion was demolished Help was constructed and opened in 1984. In the beginning Help was a very popular disco attracting regular people. The disco turned into a puteiro when gringos started going there and they started to let darker girls enter. The rest we all know. Help closed in January 2010. They started to construct Museu the Imagem e do Som which would be finished in 2014.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the article, I remember that mansion Casa Do Vaticano and I remember when Help first opened in 1984 as I had already been going to Rio for 4 years it was a new place to hit. I remember Marius too at the time, dinner was 4 dollars to add to the current debate LOL but it was just meat then. I also remember next to HELP Sobre das Ondas and I went there a few times with girls, in it's later days it was the opposite of Help, older women with younger men, it looked very interesting. Life goes on and you move with the changes, I still enjoy Rio and will until the day I can't anymore.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2666274]In the beginning Help was a very popular disco attracting regular people. The disco turned into a puteiro when gringos started going there and they started to let darker girls enter.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. I certainly took some beautiful dark-skinned girls out of Help. I remember it being more lighter girls, but the variety was what made Help so great.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2666308]Senor Xpartan,

I respect your views, and I hope you get to Rio sooner than later. As the economist notes, there is a pre and post pandemic world and they are not the same.

I ate at Marius less than 2 months ago with an ISGer from Italy, and it was $250 r. It's a once a month or quarter spectacular meal for those who love seafood, like me.

I will add, Cafe Marambaia in Guaratiba has the best paella I have ever had.

Cais do Oriente has become kind of a go to for centro mongering, as I was yesterday with two ISGers.

The bigger point, and the point of this thread is that Senor Anaggie and Senor Mr E were saying that all the Brazilian chow is similar. I'm just saying that there is some really good eating choices near the thing that makes Rio and Brazil unique -- the sex, which is the point of this board, after all.

Here are a few more excellent choices.

Nova Capella, Mem de Sa 96.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/nova_capela/?utm_medium=copy_link[/URL]

Contemporaneo, nearby on Gomes Freire.

[URL]https://g.page/contemporaneolapa?share[/URL]

Senor Bonhead had some recommendations in Humaita, as did Senor Bach123 in Leblon.

I take Senor Anaggie's point that there are perhaps even better restaurants, and women, in SP, but at a higher cost, and without the beach / waterfall hiking combinations which make Rio geographically unique. Its a matter of personal taste, like the Copa / Barra debate being whether you prefer Times Square (copa) or Miami and safety (Barra); SP, I know well too, but its just that I prefer actually swimming in the ocean, while also having a sex menu which is completely full from top to bottom tier, all colors, and for that Rio and Barra is optimal, perhaps a little like the Cartagena of the Marquez novels.

And without meaning any disrespect or harm whatsoever, I will suggest that some of those novellas, like Memories of my melancholy working girls by Marquez, might be a good antidote to Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome; I realize that much of what this particular board is is actually just reminiscences by men who are not in Rio, and who can only spend a small percentage of their time in Rio due to their circumstances.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, Sr Vagabundo. I happily second Contemporanio. It's a great place, just like the nearby hotel Granada where I stayed for one night some time ago. A clerk from that hotel recommended the place, and he was spot on. And maybe it's time for me to revisit Marius.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2666504]Haha, I like it too. It also has sushi, raw oyster. It is way too much food.

But this is my kind of food. Breakfast for 4 at station Uruguaiana, yakisoba with at RB156, great view! LOL, and night snack with farofa for 10 at Centro station.[/QUOTE]Yep, I'm a sucker for street food too.

Having said that, does anyone know of an excellent food spot with a fantastic sea view in Rio for a special occasion?

Are the drinks at the termas still cheap. I remember they were about 3 dollars so I had no problem buying one for the girls. She would actually go up with my number and bring both drinks to us. You didn't pay more for girl drinks like Mexico and Colombia. Is all that still the same.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2666506]Thank you for the article, I remember that mansion Casa Do Vaticano and I remember when Help first opened in 1984 as I had already been going to Rio for 4 years it was a new place to hit.[/QUOTE]I wish I had seen Rio in the early eighties. What I recall from 1991 was that everybody was more fit, less giant legs and horses, less silicon tits and more hairy vaginas.

Also, the girls were much more open to have their photo taken as they didn't worry about somebody sharing their photos on the internet.

[URL]https://youtu.be/3knulNJX-uo[/URL]

Very important to understand the girls you are with.

Harem maintenance.

So Vagabundo picks up Anne Amari today at Metro Carioca. She is petite and a good fit in many ways. She is having a conversation with her grandmother (Avo) when she arrives at Transamerica. She apparently is getting kicked out of the house. So, this is a stressful thing. I like her, but I have a little harem. Monica Mattos Mosaico 1 more or less got kicked out earlier this week, but it could be revived. She was in the tier 1 terma girl or freelancer slot. Mineira moved into that slot, kind of, yesterday with a super afternoon fuck session at her hotel in Lapa. Mineiras are always the best talent. Noemie Bilas is texting for pernoite, and Vagabundo wants to keep her in the harem. Ana Foxxx too is texting for pernoite, and Vagabundo told her Friday. Then there are the bros, all the ISGers are wanting to socialize and do things, and that is worthwhile too. The good thing about this time of year is that on 28 Feb, the church calendar says Carnival happens regardless of the Covid calendar, and Brazil runs on church time as far as its festivals, so Vagabundo hopes after 28 Feb, things will normalize, pricing wise.

Drug War in Brazil.

[URL]https://youtu.be/3knulNJX-uo[/URL]

Very important to understand the girls you are with.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2666637]Are the drinks at the termas still cheap. I remember they were about 3 dollars so I had no problem buying one for the girls. She would actually go up with my number and bring both drinks to us. You didn't pay more for girl drinks like Mexico and Colombia. Is all that still the same.[/QUOTE]I think it might depend on the exchange rate and the dollar has been declining in recent weeks about 10 %, so I would suspect not as cheap as we would like.

Anne Amari pernoite 350.

I came a second time this morning after pulling out to Tommy Pistol fucking Ana Foxxx in anal piledriver bound, which shocked Anne Amari, 19, but I had Ana Foxxx, Kira Noir, and a Latina doing anal lesbian in another fine [URL]kink.com[/URL] scene. This was our second pop this morning. I let her sleep, as she seemed stressed yesterday, and I slept badly as the Ukraine events were compelling, since Swiss Naval Infantry are always on standby in helicopters in our mountains to go in and collect gold for our clients, and it appears that some gold may be changing hands in the gold vaults of Zurich and Lugano, perhaps enough to pay for Chege to go get a super over priced Brazilian in the best working girl house in Switzerland or for that matter Europe. Senor Chege, though, is probably with the rest of the Swiss Naval Intelligence Section, fucking the hottest Ukrainian working girls like they were just Brazilian dogs (chachorras).

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2666945]Drug War in Brazil.

[URL]https://youtu.be/3knulNJX-uo[/URL]

Very important to understand the girls you are with.[/QUOTE]I'the rather watch this video:

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=B2t824qAOlU&feature=share[/URL]

Haven't been to 4 x4 in a few years. How much is 1 hour? Thanks.

That's where I live!

[QUOTE=RioBob;2667249]I'the rather watch this video:

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=B2t824qAOlU&feature=share[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2667180]

Zeig Heil![/QUOTE]Can't see the "Private Message" button on your profile for some reason, so I'll just say it here. I know you're just shooting the shit man, but this made me cringe.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2667180]Anne Amari pernoite 350.

I came a second time this morning after pulling out to Tommy Pistol fucking Ana Foxxx in anal piledriver bound, which shocked Anne Amari, 19, but I had Ana Foxxx, Kira Noir, and a Latina doing anal lesbian in another fine [URL]kink.com[/URL] scene. This was our second pop this morning. I let her sleep, as she seemed stressed yesterday, and I slept badly as the Ukraine events were compelling, since Swiss Naval Infantry are always on standby in helicopters in our mountains to go in and collect gold for our clients, and it appears that some gold may be changing hands in the gold vaults of Zurich and Lugano, perhaps enough to pay for Chege to go get a super over priced Brazilian in the best working girl house in Switzerland or for that matter Europe. Senor Chege, though, is probably with the rest of the Swiss Naval Intelligence Section, fucking the hottest Ukrainian working girls like they were just Brazilian dogs (chachorras).[/QUOTE]Well like everything in life, if you do it all the time then its not entertaining or something you want to have. That's exactly why I don't fuck any gp during my daily life. I wait for it until I won't anymore, then I enjoy it to the fullest, embrace it and appreciate it.

Regarding Ukrainian girls, they are nice to look at and I mean that but in my experience they don't stand a chance against a horny raw gem Brazil and especially Rio has to offer.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2666724]I wish I had seen Rio in the early eighties. What I recall from 1991 was that everybody was more fit, less giant legs and horses, less silicon tits and more hairy vaginas.

Also, the girls were much more open to have their photo taken as they didn't worry about somebody sharing their photos on the internet.[/QUOTE]It was a different scene before Help became the greatest disco in the world. The Lido area as the article said had many more bars to meet girls, like Franks bar etc. All the restaurants along avenue Atlantico open air had girls as well as Mabs and Meia Pataca. Also most of the girls returned to your hotel the next day and wanted to marry you LOL, it was much more innocent then, sure you paid but it was a gift and anything you wanted to give.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2667249]I'the rather watch this video:

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=B2t824qAOlU&feature=share[/URL][/QUOTE]Them there some thick ass white women.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2667392]It was a different scene before Help became the greatest disco in the world. The Lido area as the article said had many more bars to meet girls, like Franks bar etc. All the restaurants along avenue Atlantico open air had girls as well as Mabs and Meia Pataca. Also most of the girls returned to your hotel the next day and wanted to marry you LOL, it was much more innocent then, sure you paid but it was a gift and anything you wanted to give.[/QUOTE]What about Balcony Bar? When did that come onto the scene?

[QUOTE=RioBob;2667392]It was a different scene before Help became the greatest disco in the world.[/QUOTE]Thanks for being here to fill us in on the history.

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2667392]It was a different scene before Help became the greatest disco in the world. The Lido area as the article said had many more bars to meet girls, like Franks bar etc. All the restaurants along avenue Atlantico open air had girls as well as Mabs and Meia Pataca. Also most of the girls returned to your hotel the next day and wanted to marry you LOL, it was much more innocent then, sure you paid but it was a gift and anything you wanted to give.[/QUOTE]

My first foray into Rio was 1990 and was just blow away literally and figuratively, at the debauchery and sheer number of sex venues, littered all up and down Atlantic Ave. So I can only image the totally unhinged version in the 1980's

I'll never forget walking into some of the bars and literally getting a blow job for the price of a couple of bears and the copious amount of unhindered "open air" sex, groping and fingering with scantily dressed girls in bikinis, was unreal. Or having a drink, while some guy, a few feet away, was openly fucking (or getting blown) by some hottie (and they weren't all dark corner club hideouts). It was fickin' amazing!

Thanks for the nostalgia, even though it irks some BMs, I for one and relish and welcome the historical POV, from those who witnessed greatness back in the day.

Not to throw shade on the today's P4P action, because there's a lot of action still on tap. But I always find it interesting to hear and read about the evolution of the sex scene, over the years in Rio/Brazil.

So please reminisce and hearken back to the "good ole days", as I for one will enjoy reading the insights, especially as it relates to the scene today.

Sperto, I didn't know you went that far back. Have you slowed down at all in 2022. How old are you?

I have visited darkroom 2 times and both times where good. First time was a mulatta Bruninha, very good body and session. Next day same place negra Rebeca even better. Those girls have the kind of bodies I like. Not too big, soft skin, natural breasts, minimal makeup. The place is not great but I can compromise when the girls are good. Can be a long wait sometimes to get into the showers.

Next day I went too Bel Prazer, Emporiho do banor, Sexy hot massagens, Dany massagem, Studio zen, Sexy house, Imperio do Prazer. All places have same prices (nearly). When you walk into some of those establishments the receptionist looks and behaves like one of her children died recently. Most of them should probably get another job. Only 2 had girls I would consider. Studio Zen have good looking girls but the place have massage tables that you have sex on. Not recommended. I tried but if you are a midget perhaps it will satisfy your needs.

There was a slight mix-up then I chose the girl. I wanted a negra but the receptionist must have misunderstood and sent me a light skinned one. It was not good. Bad oral technique and I noticed she did not like too fuck. Sometimes it takes me along time too come especially if the girl is the opposite to GFE style. Sucking her breasts was a no go because she pulled away the nipple every time I tried like she was starving her own baby.

After some time she started pointing to her watch like there was short time left while we where in missionary. I did eventually come and later I asked her why she had pointed to her watch and she said I had started to hurt her because of too much fucking. I will not complain though, I am grateful some girls are doing that kind of work.

The last place I checked was Imperio do Prazer. They had girls that reminded me of Bruninha and Rebeca. Will probably try it tomorrow. And visit more places from GPArena.

The quality of the rooms leaves a lot to be desired at most places, decent aircon seems to be a luxury. I have realized that from all the girls I greeted the negras seems most enthusiastic. My aim of this journey is to see was Brazil can provide that I can not get in Africa (Kenya, Uganda, Madagascar) where I usually go. Generally I am more attracted to black then white.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2667401]What about Balcony Bar? When did that come onto the scene?[/QUOTE]I believe it was open before Help closed 2010 maybe by a few years but didn't become popular until Help closed. It was a good location next to dolce vita which also didn't become popular until Help closed. Both of them together was like a mini Help / terraco Atlantico.

[QUOTE=The Cane;2667401]What about Balcony Bar? When did that come onto the scene?[/QUOTE]Believed it opened sometime in 2006 and ran until Feb 2015.

Like Mab's, it had some decent FL talent, from time to time, but nothing stellar on a consistent basis.

But for me, it was a good place (and close enough to home/apt/hotel) to hang out for a few drinks, during a nice evening or early morning (ie. 2am - 4am) stroll, up and down Av. Atlantica.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2667434]I believe it was open before Help closed 2010 maybe by a few years but didn't become popular until Help closed. It was a good location next to dolce vita which also didn't become popular until Help closed. Both of them together was like a mini Help / terraco Atlantico.[/QUOTE]That's right.

There is an interesting university paper, 200 pages, about the monger scene in Copacabana, Balcony, sex hungry gringos and how the police worked trying to close some establishments. The paper is a PDF. You find it if you Google: Dossiê "Mobilidades Turísticas" 23.

As you might remember Dolce Vita used to be Holiday, another sex club that seemed like a rip-off joint.

IMO one of the biggest losses in Rio was the Praça Mauá scene. Strip clubs at Florida Bar and Bar Escandinava, not to forget the great Filippino Bar across the street. Great fun!

Florida Bar had great strip tease, dildo shows and once I saw a live sexshow. Many beautiful strippers. You could session upstairs, in motel Puma next door or bring them back home. They charged much less and sometimes went for free (like some Help girls also did).

This Miami playboy said it best in this video. Who is using who in the older man younger woman dynamic. BTW he is dead now and wasn't able to even spend all his money before he died.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuu6bZrD9V4[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2667401]What about Balcony Bar? When did that come onto the scene?[/QUOTE]It was a great Last shot location for picking up a female who hadn't secured a client for the evening in the mid 2000's. Plus, it was the good spot to have a few drinks and watch the sun come up since it was open all night.

Good report.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2667432]I have visited darkroom 2 times and both times where good. First time was a mulatta Bruninha, very good body and session. Next day same place negra Rebeca even better. Those girls have the kind of bodies I like. Not too big, soft skin, natural breasts, minimal makeup. The place is not great but I can compromise when the girls are good. Can be a long wait sometimes to get into the showers.

Next day I went too Bel Prazer, Emporiho do banor, Sexy hot massagens, Dany massagem, Studio zen, Sexy house, Imperio do Prazer. All places have same prices (nearly). When you walk into some of those establishments the receptionist looks and behaves like one of her children died recently. Most of them should probably get another job. Only 2 had girls I would consider. Studio Zen have good looking girls but the place have massage tables that you have sex on. Not recommended. I tried but if you are a midget perhaps it will satisfy your needs..[/QUOTE]

I got to check out a few places while I was in town a few weeks ago. I really liked Eden Spa. The setup was fine, nothing to write home about. I chose Mirela a short blanca. Pretty vanilla but lots of GFE and she was in to it. Talked afterwards in my bad Porto, but overall was a good time.

Also stopped in to Dark Room. It was during the day so maybe the line-up wasn't the best. Ended up choosing a mulatta, but made the mistake of not asking if she had kids. Still, she gave up the booty and had a good enough time. I know folks really like Darkroom so I'll have to give it a try when I'm back next month. I'll be moving there so I'll have to connect with the crew.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2667413]My first foray into Rio was 1990 and was just blow away literally and figuratively, at the debauchery and sheer number of sex venues, littered all up and down Atlantic Ave. So I can only image the totally unhinged version in the 1980's

I'll never forget walking into some of the bars and literally getting a blow job for the price of a couple of bears and the copious amount of unhindered "open air" sex, groping and fingering with scantily dressed girls in bikinis, was unreal. Or having a drink, while some guy, a few feet away, was openly fucking (or getting blown) by some hottie (and they weren't all dark corner club hideouts). It was fickin' amazing!

Thanks for the nostalgia, even though it irks some BMs, I for one and relish and welcome the historical POV, from those who witnessed greatness back in the day..[/QUOTE]Help Disco and the Copacabana was a victim of its own success sort of speak. The advent of the internet likely made it too popular for it too persist. Of course, the World Cup and Olympics accelerated the push to clean-up Copacabana.

Before the internet, Rio was basically a word of mouth thing. Sure, American men were aware of the SE Asian playgrounds. When I was coming up the ranks, Rio was more of a mystery. We knew about tan, bikini-clad Brazilian women. We didn't hear much of the Rio sex scene until word trickled back.

Circa 2000 and now the internet spreads word quickly and far. I distinctly remember meeting four mid-twentysomething Midwestern guys with a clear lack of game having the time of their lives. If the internet helped these guys find and navigate Copacabana, I suspect young Brazilian girls were also receiving news and updates quickly. Help Disco was establishing a reputation globally and throughout Brazil.

There were of course the smokin' dark-skinned Cariocas of various shades strutting and shaking their bundas in the disco. When Centaurus consistently had some of the best talent, their girls would routinely stroll into Terraço Atlântico after their shift. You were crazy if you didn't lock them down before they went into the disco. Blondes and redheads navigated their way from the South organizing in two, threes and fours likely utilizing the internet to organize an apartment near Posto 5 in Copa. There were the famous Mineira beauties just from the near North. Paulistas were abundant, but I found they were more mercenaries than Cariocas. Many a Carioca would simply want to dance and drink then deliver you a great night of sex and then some into the morning. I think the term GFE was invented to describe Cariocas.

As far as the quality of talent, I think that many nights the top tier rivaled that of the top boates in São Paulo. These girls would ask top dollar and get it. I think what venerated Help for so many of us were the sweet, simple girls. They were attractive in ways beyond their looks even if they weren't one of the hottest girls in the club. They were just trying to have a good time while making some cash. Which brings me to cash, the cover charge and the drinks were very reasonable. It was actually quite surprising how affordable a night at Help Disco could be.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2667429]Sperto, I didn't know you went that far back. Have you slowed down at all in 2022. How old are you?[/QUOTE]I just noticed your post. Sorry, if I'm slowed down? I don't really understand what you want to know? My age? If you know my age, will that help your mongering or is this a proposal?

Tijuana, you are really good at asking a lot of questions. We are looking forward to your reports about Rio.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2667780]I just noticed your post. Sorry, if I'm slowed down? I don't really understand what you want to know? My age? If you know my age, will that help your mongering or is this a proposal?

Tijuana, you are really good at asking a lot of questions. We are looking forward to your reports about Rio.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Slowed down as in still doing multiple women a day or has age caught up with you like it has me.

[QUOTE=Wyatt Earp;2667756]... Before the internet, Rio was basically a word of mouth thing. Sure, American men were aware of the SE Asian playgrounds. When I was coming up the ranks, Rio was more of a mystery. We knew about tan, bikini-clad Brazilian women. We didn't hear much of the Rio sex scene until word trickled back. ... [/QUOTE]

I think for those hobbyists, that participated in Brazil during the 1980's, 1990's and to a lesser extent 2000's and present day, it's important to remember that Brazil is a burgeoning young democracy, that had in 1985, just emerged from an authoritarian military regime of 20 years. Brazil's current constitution was ratified and promulgated in 1988 and held it's first democratic elections in 1989, since the coup in 1964.

Yes, Brazil/Rio was somewhat of a mystery, shrouded in a sketchy political regime, that had it pegged as a dangerous place to visit. Political uncertainty, corruption, violence, police brutality and street gangs robbery and killings (and still today, not much as changed), it's not surprising that most tourists stayed away. Why get mugged, robbed, beaten up or killed, when you can spend a safe and relaxing vacation in Hawaii (I'm sure it a lovely destination, but I've never been and it's not on my buck list. So I may never visit...my loss!)

So naturally, most of the North American media (travel agents), for a long time did not rate Brazil as a safe place to vacay. And I do remember getting lots of warnings about safety in Brazil (and I do mean lots), when I was booking my first trip in 1990. I played it as safe as I could and booked your typical package deal (flight + hotel), with a few city tours thrown-in for good measure (ie. Christ the Redeemer, Sugar Loaf, Botanical Gardens), not too mention our designated cutie tour guide re-selling scalped and over priced Carnaval tickets, to us, gullible tourists.

[QUOTE=Wyatt Earp;2667756] Help Disco and the Copacabana was a victim of its own success sort of speak. The advent of the internet likely made it too popular for it too persist...

Circa 2000 and now the internet spreads word quickly and far...Help Disco was establishing a reputation globally and throughout Brazil. ...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, fair or not...but (somewhat) pre-internet, when Help discotheque got featured in several infamous John Stagliano/Buttman and Evil Angel videos (among others), over the years leading up to it's demise in 2010, those videos, didn't exactly do a whole lot to enhance it's optics, as a "good neighborhood" business in the upstanding community of Copa. [i]Ahrrr well....what's one to do? Infamy has its price.[/i]

On the flip side, Buttman videos are partially to blame for my Brazilian Brasileira Booty addiction. Throw in a mix of WSG (former ISG) reports and the lore of naked women dancing samba in Carnaval as the greatest party in the world and you're "hooped/fucked" and no doubt forever on that pussy treadmill to Brazil...kkkk!

You highlight some of the great points/moments of the 2000s and I couldn't agree more [b]as those moments/events are indelibly, forever imprinted on my soul.[/b] So perhaps like yourself, is it any wonder as to why we fondly reminisce and share such vintage and nostalgic experiences, the likes of which we may never see again.

But no doubt, its time to hit the Brazilian trail again and make new memories, post COVID. So upward and onward, as any good hobbyist should adapt to the changing times.

Rio is he greatest mongering destination in the world. Period. Everywhere else is like a stepchild. The termas can't be beat, and the raw sexual energy of the girls is unmatched. I can only imagine what it would have been like to go through my teen years, and have access to so many hotties in the 80's when I was 18 years old and 155 pounds. All I had was the movie Blame It On Rio which is still my guilty pleasure.

Dear Friends,

It's several years (more then ten) I miss from Brazil. I've seen the situation has changed, was used to Help and Meia Pataca. I know how to get girls, but at the moment I do not know how the hotels are: I mean if they are girl friendly.

In the past I used to stay at Othon Olinda (a small hotel in the middle of Copacabana, good but not luxurious). Now it has changed chain, and I would like to go to some big and better one. I thought about Rio Othon and Hilton. Any suggestion? Are they girl friendly? Anybody knows.

By the way I find fantastic the website [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] It changes very fast and you should use it after 16:00 - 18:00 local time so you see new ads.

IT.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2667971]Dear Friends,

It's several years (more then ten) I miss from Brazil. I've seen the situation has changed, was used to Help and Meia Pataca. I know how to get girls, but at the moment I do not know how the hotels are: I mean if they are girl friendly.

In the past I used to stay at Othon Olinda (a small hotel in the middle of Copacabana, good but not luxurious). Now it has changed chain, and I would like to go to some big and better one. I thought about Rio Othon and Hilton. Any suggestion? Are they girl friendly? Anybody knows.

By the way I find fantastic the website [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] It changes very fast and you should use it after 16:00 - 18:00 local time so you see new ads..[/QUOTE]IT Travel! Perhaps the only one who can comprehend my proclivity for the booty hole so much! LOLOLOL! I book all of my vacations via "IT Travel" hahaha! But you got to stay away from photoacompanhantes man. That site is shit! Hit me up by PM, and I will guide you with much, much better options. Connoisseur to connoisseur!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2667848]Slowed down as in still doing multiple women a day or has age caught up with you like it has me.[/QUOTE]No problem at all. I mix regulars and pro's. When staying longer times in Brazil, e. G three months, there is no need for P4P every day. Then the mongering would loose it's charm.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2667393]Them there some thick ass white women.[/QUOTE]I know that's right! I lost my fucking mind the first time I went to Brazil! Fine ass, banging, [B]pretty[/B] big booty brancas. And I was getting them all up in the booty hole! My God! I was so worn out when I got back home that I was literally sick and had to take a week off of work just to recover LOLOLOL! No lie! And so, a new lover of the pretty big booty Brazilian brancas was born! Hahahahaha!

[URL]https://youtube.com/watch?v=B2t824qAOlU&feature=share[/URL]

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2667971]Dear Friends,

It's several years (more then ten) I miss from Brazil. I've seen the situation has changed, was used to Help and Meia Pataca. I know how to get girls, but at the moment I do not know how the hotels are: I mean if they are girl friendly.

In the past I used to stay at Othon Olinda (a small hotel in the middle of Copacabana, good but not luxurious). Now it has changed chain, and I would like to go to some big and better one. I thought about Rio Othon and Hilton. Any suggestion? Are they girl friendly? Anybody knows.

By the way I find fantastic the website [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] It changes very fast and you should use it after 16:00 - 18:00 local time so you see new ads.

IT.[/QUOTE]Forget about the Rio Othon, take a look at the hotel Porto Bay, good location and girl friendly.

Forget about Copa.

Go to Botafogo or Barra. IBIS is always good for a first time hotel.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/br/ibis-rio-de-janeiro-botafogo.pt-br.html[/URL]

Botafogo is the best neighborhood in Rio. On the metro, easy to get to Centro termas and prives, which is the best value for money, but none of the sex tourist bubble (metro stops siqueira campos to General Osorio) crime risk. But it is a 10 minute metro ride (4 reais) from Copa if you want to link up with other mongers. In botafogo, I recommend joining the botafogo clube with a good swimming pool, and a great spot to meet women.

[URL]https://all.accor.com/hotel/8182/index.en.shtml?utm_campaign=seo[/URL]+maps&utm_medium=seo+maps&utm_source=google+Maps.

Av de pepe 56.

Best terma in Rio is Perola Negra (same talent as 4 x4).

Ave de pepe 400.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2668035]Forget about the Rio Othon, take a look at the hotel Porto Bay, good location and girl friendly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2667971]Dear Friends,

It's several years (more then ten) I miss from Brazil. I've seen the situation has changed, was used to Help and Meia Pataca. I know how to get girls, but at the moment I do not know how the hotels are: I mean if they are girl friendly.

In the past I used to stay at Othon Olinda (a small hotel in the middle of Copacabana, good but not luxurious). Now it has changed chain, and I would like to go to some big and better one. I thought about Rio Othon and Hilton. Any suggestion? Are they girl friendly? Anybody knows.

By the way I find fantastic the website [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] It changes very fast and you should use it after 16:00 - 18:00 local time so you see new ads.

IT.[/QUOTE]Look, you're obviously an experienced monger so I won't tell you to RTFF, but you might still want to consider it, LOL. Then you'll find that the PA site has been discussed here at length, and while it has a great interface, it's just an advertising site where people are free to post and say whatever they want. You would also find that while Hilton is not bad, it's not GF, so you might want to consider JW Marriott, which is in the same class (a little underwhelming) and price range. Seriously, if you're planning a trip, you'll benefit greatly from reading the last 30 pages or so, especially since you haven't been to Rio for a long time. Good luck!

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2667971]Dear Friends,

It's several years (more then ten) I miss from Brazil. I've seen the situation has changed, was used to Help and Meia Pataca. I know how to get girls, but at the moment I do not know how the hotels are: I mean if they are girl friendly.

In the past I used to stay at Othon Olinda (a small hotel in the middle of Copacabana, good but not luxurious). Now it has changed chain, and I would like to go to some big and better one. I thought about Rio Othon and Hilton. Any suggestion? Are they girl friendly? Anybody knows.

By the way I find fantastic the website [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] It changes very fast and you should use it after 16:00 - 18:00 local time so you see new ads..[/QUOTE]I was in town 3 weeks ago and I stayed at the Pestana. I had no issues bringing guests in, the reception desk called my room to ask if they could let a girl from barravip come upstairs. However it has a popular rooftop party on Friday night and the elevators are painstakingly slow during the event because of the crowds going and leaving the soiree. Its also close to the Belizario lab at 605 NS Copacabana for the covid test to return to the US.

[QUOTE=ItTravel;2667971]Dear Friends,

It's several years (more then ten) I miss from Brazil. I've seen the situation has changed, was used to Help and Meia Pataca. I know how to get girls, but at the moment I do not know how the hotels are: I mean if they are girl friendly.

In the past I used to stay at Othon Olinda (a small hotel in the middle of Copacabana, good but not luxurious). Now it has changed chain, and I would like to go to some big and better one. I thought about Rio Othon and Hilton. Any suggestion? Are they girl friendly? Anybody knows.

By the way I find fantastic the website [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] It changes very fast and you should use it after 16:00 - 18:00 local time so you see new ads..[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Pestana 3 weeks ago and had no issues bringing ladies back to the room. It has a popular rooftop party on Friday nights and the elevators are painstakingly slow during the event because of all the traffic going and coming from upstairs, other than that I had no issues. There's a Lab for the covid test returning to the US at 605 NS Copacabana Rm 410 within walking distance and you get the results on the web within 2 hours.

Gentlemen,

As some of you whom I have met know, I disappear when I am not "in country" - I like to keep things separate. But of course, every once in a while I like to check in. I'm glad to see that the guide I wrote last summer has been helpful for new travelers. It warmed my heart to see it made it to the reports of distinction.

This is a WARNO (I see you vagabundo) that I will return to the land of beautiful bundas this coming summer for another month or so. I was planning on visiting in a couple weeks but flight costs don't align with my schedule. I'll be heading to Colombia instead since my vacation last year was cut short due to the mayor of Bogota deciding it was appropriate to send the city into a martial law style lockdown on short notice.

If you have tried to reach me via WA, please know that I have not been ignoring you. I deleted my number a while back but will establish a new one for my trip this summer. Until then, keep fighting the good fight.

TIA.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2668184]Gentlemen,

As some of you whom I have met know, I disappear when I am not "in country" - I like to keep things separate. But of course, every once in a while I like to check in. I'm glad to see that the guide I wrote last summer has been helpful for new travelers. It warmed my heart to see it made it to the reports of distinction.

This is a WARNO (I see you vagabundo) that I will return to the land of beautiful bundas this coming summer for another month or so. I was planning on visiting in a couple weeks but flight costs don't align with my schedule. I'll be heading to Colombia instead since my vacation last year was cut short due to the mayor of Bogota deciding it was appropriate to send the city into a martial law style lockdown on short notice..[/QUOTE]TiaVoyage plans to make yet another fantastic voyage to Brazil LOLOL! There's a party down there and it ain't no jive! No, no my friends it's all the way live! I'm talking pretty blonde brancas to do in their bums! So you just fly on! You just fly on! Hahahahaha!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1YjmXSyHa8[/URL]

Indeed, hit up Senor Nounce and Senor JimmyBoy to be added to a select group of anal connoisseurs, bareback anal. I can hook you up with the same medical professionals who test all the local top tier girls so going bare up the best anal holes will be approved. Haha.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2668008]IT Travel! Perhaps the only one who can comprehend my proclivity for the booty hole so much! LOLOLOL! I book all of my vacations via "IT Travel" hahaha! But you got to stay away from photoacompanhantes man. That site is shit! Hit me up by PM, and I will guide you with much, much better options. Connoisseur to connoisseur![/QUOTE]

Question to the guys that Uber to all the Termas. Does Uber recognize the name of the terma when I type it in or will I need the exact address. Can I just type in Terma New York Terma solarium terma 65. BTW, is that Terma airport still around. Is Luomo back open under a different name.

Copa has a favela. Barra does not.

[QUOTE=OJeito;2665320]Like other bm'ers have mentioned in the past, any doubt or uncertainty about these PhotoAcompanhantes girls can be instantly eliminated with a simple request for a short video chat confirmation call. If she refuses, maybe so should you.[/QUOTE]Hi. I've read you know Brazil as well. Beetween Brasil and Colombia, wich do you recommend? I'm European, I speak fluently Portuguese, and almoust perfect Spanish.

Colombia seems to be more dolarized, and expensive.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2668102]Look, you're obviously an experienced monger so I won't tell you to RTFF, but you might still want to consider it, LOL. Then you'll find that the PA site has been discussed here at length, and while it has a great interface, it's just an advertising site where people are free to post and say whatever they want. You would also find that while Hilton is not bad, it's not GF, so you might want to consider JW Marriott, which is in the same class (a little underwhelming) and price range. Seriously, if you're planning a trip, you'll benefit greatly from reading the last 30 pages or so, especially since you haven't been to Rio for a long time. Good luck![/QUOTE]Is the JW Marriott girl friendly? Do they charge for visitors? Thanks.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2668478]Is the JW Marriott girl friendly? Do they charge for visitors? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2668102]Look, you're obviously an experienced monger so I won't tell you to RTFF, but you might still want to consider it, LOL. Then you'll find that the PA site (sic: [b]JW Marriott[/b]) has been discussed here at length, [/QUOTE]Although all the information a person could ask can be found by just putting Marriott in the search bar, some guys just don't give a damn!

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=10423168[/URL]

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2668478]Is the JW Marriott girl friendly? Do they charge for visitors? Thanks.[/QUOTE]They didn't when I was there a few years ago and still don't according to more recent reports.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2668515]They didn't when I was there a few years ago and still don't according to more recent reports.[/QUOTE]JW is girl / guest friendly and no they do not charge extra for visitors.

It's been mentioned in the past JW Marriott, Hilton, Pestana and Porto Bay are hobby friendly.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2668259]Question to the guys that Uber to all the Termas. Does Uber recognize the name of the terma when I type it in or will I need the exact address. Can I just type in Terma New York Terma solarium terma 65. BTW, is that Terma airport still around. Is Luomo back open under a different name.[/QUOTE]Just type in the correct name and it should come up. Termas aeroporto is gone as well as luomo. When is your trip to Rio?

Loved the video! Big booty blonde brancas are calling me name. I can hear them from thousands of miles away, but alas, they will have to wait a few more months.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2668191]TiaVoyage plans to make yet another fantastic voyage to Brazil LOLOL! There's a party down there and it ain't no jive! No, no my friends it's all the way live! I'm talking pretty blonde brancas to do in their bums! So you just fly on! You just fly on! Hahahahaha!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1YjmXSyHa8[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Safado69;2668527]JW is girl / guest friendly and no they do not charge extra for visitors.

It's been mentioned in the past JW Marriott, Hilton, Pestana and Porto Bay are hobby friendly.[/QUOTE]Hilton is not, or at least it wasn't my experience. They turned away my buddy's girl.

[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2668630]Loved the video! Big booty blonde brancas are calling me name. I can hear them from thousands of miles away, but alas, they will have to wait a few more months.[/QUOTE]Just forget about your condoms and your 9 to 5! What you call that? It's called going [B]bareback[/B]! LOLOLOL!

Anne Amari, pernoite 300. Porn.

So Anne Amari is over on the second pernoite. She is a petite, pretty Negra, and a really good fit for Vagabundo. She rolls a joint as I type this.

[URL]https://www.playvids.com/OgiekVlNuuQ/elsa-jean-ana-foxxx-anne-amari-zebragirls-lesbian-dare[/URL]

I watch the above porn with Anne Amari.

I have found that the [URL]kink.com[/URL] porn is too hard for most, for example the Mineira. I also shot a little of my seed up into her womb, and she then was like, we are doing it only with condoms, and I asked her to leave che vagabundo, paying her 200 for the one pop instead of 500 for the pernoite.

Any who, that was days ago. Anne is over for the carnival because she prefers not to go out in the street. Vagabundo concurs. We did go to the beach, which was awesome. We fuck 3 or 5 times a day, sometimes more. We made a mini churrasco on Saturday on the balcony overlooking barra beach from the 12th floor of Hotel California. If you don't have a view of the Atlantic -- the Atlantic, not that toilet called Guanabarra bay -- then correct yourself. (However, in fairness, Copa is unique and awesome. A ideal copa day would be:

1. Rasta Beach, Posto 1. Girls who smoke ganja and listen to Bob Marley, are also DTF.

1. 5 Go over to 583, and do a prive girl (if you didn't pick up a girl on the beach with your swinging banana hammock).

2. Marius for dinner.

2. 5 Go over to 583, and do a prive girl.

3. Dash Dance Club, P6 (a new Help?

(Maybe, maybe, if you have like no game, and no contacts, Monte Carlo; but it would be a true sign of desperation; better to just drink at the beach kiosk 151).

Security: always put your phone in one of those clear plastic cases with a lanyard around your neck. That's the biggest risk. Pick good wingmen if you are not a solo monger. Or just go to Barra, where there is no crime to speak of (I had 2 cell phones and a laptop at the beach in Barra P6) because it is pretty much the whites only beach, and I bring black girls. That is just the truth, the harsh truth. Vagabundo likes his safety because he is playing the long game. But Copa is in a favela, it is integral with the favela. That's just part of the reality.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2668191]TiaVoyage plans to make yet another fantastic voyage to Brazil LOLOL! There's a party down there and it ain't no jive! No, no my friends it's all the way live! I'm talking pretty blonde brancas to do in their bums! So you just fly on! You just fly on! Hahahahaha!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1YjmXSyHa8[/URL][/QUOTE]I watched your video of guys singing and dancing in Pirate get-ups. All I could think was that you were channeling Pirate's Booty. Plunder away my friend. LOL.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2667884]Yeah, fair or not...but (somewhat) pre-internet, when Help discotheque got featured in several infamous John Stagliano/Buttman and Evil Angel videos (among others), over the years leading up to it's demise in 2010, those videos, didn't exactly do a whole lot to enhance it's optics, as a "good neighborhood" business in the upstanding community of Copa. [i]Ahrrr well....what's one to do? Infamy has its price.[/i]

On the flip side, Buttman videos are partially to blame for my Brazilian Brasileira Booty addiction. Throw in a mix of WSG (former ISG) reports and the lore of naked women dancing samba in Carnaval as the greatest party in the world and you're "hooped/fucked" and no doubt forever on that pussy treadmill to Brazil...kkkk![/QUOTE]I appreciate any reference to Buttman (John Stagliano) videos. I believe Rio might have been the first of many Buttman adventures. When he went back with Rocco Siffredi things really heated up.

When I saw the first Buttman in Rio something also woke up inside me. Beautiful, curvaceous women on the beach. Those skimpy bikinis that later revealed those flying V tan lines. The way the women moved in bed and out of bed.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2668515]They didn't when I was there a few years ago and still don't according to more recent reports.[/QUOTE]Thanks I got lazy and things can change. Plus I like pissing off the older mongers.

Less than a week to go until my first trip to Brazil, arriving next Monday.

Flights due to land at 20:05 and will only have hand luggage, if I'm in my hotel and ready to head out by 22:00 (hopefully), where would you lot recommend I go?

Worth visiting a Terma at that time or better waiting for Dolce Vita to get going? Will be staying in Copacabana.

Appreciate any advice.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2669308]...

Flights due to land at 20:05 and will only have hand luggage, if I'm in my hotel and ready to head out by 22:00 (hopefully), where would you lot recommend I go?

Worth visiting a Terma at that time or better waiting for Dolce Vita to get going? Will be staying in Copacabana...[/QUOTE]I would go to Terma. You can just go directly to 4 x4 and leave your luggage in the locker room. Take a bath to clean up and unwind there. Many gringos do that. I would not wait for DV, you may not find what you like.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2669308]Less than a week to go until my first trip to Brazil, arriving next Monday.

Flights due to land at 20:05 and will only have hand luggage, if I'm in my hotel and ready to head out by 22:00 (hopefully), where would you lot recommend I go?

Worth visiting a Terma at that time or better waiting for Dolce Vita to get going? Will be staying in Copacabana.

Appreciate any advice.[/QUOTE]You could go to termas Monte Carlo but don't forget Monday is a slow night.

You could go over to Mabs and have a pizza and beer and see if anything interesting shows up then about midnight walk over to dolce vita but again Monday will be slow.

If nothing works out call an escort from barra vip they work all the time.

Vagabundo had kind of a down day after a swing thing last night in which he ploughed the ass of a morena clara bent over while she was getting face fucked. It was a swing thing in Gloria.

Oh, Rio.

Anne comes over today. We smoke, bareback fuck, and generally chill. I must have her in a dupla soon with Ana Foxxx, who keeps wanting to come over.

Great advice Nounce and Rio Bob, thank you.

Look forward to hopefully meeting members of the What's App group.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2668963] ...When I saw the first Buttman in Rio something also woke up inside me. Beautiful, curvaceous women on the beach. Those skimpy bikinis that later revealed those flying V tan lines. The way the women moved in bed and out of bed. [/QUOTE]Ooh! ...those tan lines, especially when coupled with those small bleached blonde body hairs, that were so smooth to the touch and "glistened" in the sun".

Yeah...not everyone's thing, but I enjoy it, if well kept.

Please feel free to ignore if Rio 1990's nostalgia / reminiscing is not your thing.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2668963] I appreciate any reference to Buttman (John Stagliano) videos. I believe Rio might have been the first of many Buttman adventures. When he went back with Rocco Siffredi things really heated up... [/QUOTE][I]"Buttman's Popo Zuda Party (2001)" [/I]is the GOAT, IMHO, as the greatest ever Carnaval porno.

This was the type of Carnaval I grew to know and love in the 1990's and early 2000's. The debauchery during Carnaval was just on another level. His infamous side trip (in Popo Zuda) to a strip club in Belo Horizonte, was another reason I initially thought BH would be a hot bed of activity for action. Although my maiden trip to Belo was enjoyable, it didn't quite live up to my "Popo Zuda" strip club fantasies.

Oops! I just couldn't help myself with all the Popo Zuda talk and just had to delve into the archives and reminisce. Thought I'd share a few of my own pics and some taken from the 1990 Carnaval "rag mags" bought at the corner street jornal do bancos.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2668102]Look, you're obviously an experienced monger so I won't tell you to RTFF, but you might still want to consider it, LOL. Then you'll find that the PA site has been discussed here at length, and while it has a great interface, it's just an advertising site where people are free to post and say whatever they want. You would also find that while Hilton is not bad, it's not GF, so you might want to consider JW Marriott, which is in the same class (a little underwhelming) and price range. Seriously, if you're planning a trip, you'll benefit greatly from reading the last 30 pages or so, especially since you haven't been to Rio for a long time. Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks. Sorry but I really do not know what RTFF is.

IT.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2668008]IT Travel! Perhaps the only one who can comprehend my proclivity for the booty hole so much! LOLOLOL! I book all of my vacations via "IT Travel" hahaha! But you got to stay away from photoacompanhantes man. That site is shit! Hit me up by PM, and I will guide you with much, much better options. Connoisseur to connoisseur![/QUOTE]OK. Man! I'll soon write you.

IT.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2668963] ... Beautiful, curvaceous women on the beach. Those skimpy bikinis that later revealed those flying V tan lines. The way the women moved in bed and out of bed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2670266]Ooh! ...those tan lines, especially when coupled with those small bleached blonde body hairs, that were so smooth to the touch and "glistened" in the sun"...[/QUOTE] Yep, still a joy to behold in any era!

Whether those tan lines and golden hairs, show up at a baile in the 1990's, getting dressed in your Fortaleza hotel room in the 2000's, Termas Cancun or on the beach, it just never gets old. Hmm, hmmm....

First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. Sorry for any mistakes, but English is not my native language.

I would like to give useful information especially to those who have never been to Rio de Janeiro and want to take a low cost pussy holiday. LOL.

Copacabana vs Cento

I spent the first part of the holiday in an Airbnb in Centro attached to the Carioca metro and the second part of the holiday in Copacabana between posto4 and posto5.

Although from Monday to Friday in the afternoon / evening I am always in Centro to check the brothels, I am also always on the beach in the morning. Considering the fact that all my friends live in Copacabana and considering the fact that in the evening Centro is deserted, with almost all the restaurants closed as early as 7 pm. I prefer to stay in Copa more than Centro and go to Centro just to hunt for pussy. Also Saturday and Sunday Centro is dead. Anyway probably Centro it's safer than Copa. And if you stay in Centro is easier to take out girls from brothels / trash to your apartment.

Money exchange.

Another reason why Copa is better than Centro is that the exchange rates are much better in Copa. When in Centro they changed the euro at 6. 00 in Copa there were changes at 6. 15/6. 20.

During the holiday I always changed my euro between 6. 00 and 6. 20 in Copa. First holiday the euro exchange was between 6. 30 and 6. 40.

Cards.

I used Revolut, I must say very comfortable to avoid filling up with coins. I paid cash only in brothels, for everything else Revolut.

Metro.

Very safe for me, I drove around it day and night, on both lines from Jardim Oceanico to Saens Pena and on the other line to Sao Cristovao, never had any problems or sense of danger. Cost of the ride 5. 80 R.

Uber.

Work fine, not much cancellations and not much waiting times, and then it is much cheaper than taxis. The only problem if you are in group is that most uber driver accept a maximum of 3 passengers as per Uber regulation. Some of them will make an exception if you are in 4 for 10 R tip. Others refuse to pick up 4 people.

Vaccinal certificate.

Only in gym, tourist places like Corcovado and Sugar loaf and in a couple of HiSo restaurants did they ask me for it, otherwise never had to show it anywhere.

Beaches.

In Copacabana I like Rasta Beach, baracca 20 in Leme. For me the best beach is Sao Conrado in front of the Rocinha, on beautiful sunny days the beach is packed with beautiful pussies. On Sundays there is often a party in posto 13.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/resenhaposto13/[/URL]

And after a nice beach party, pagode and baile funk at the Estação Vidigal on Sunday evening.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/estacaovidigal/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/estacaovidigal[/URL]

Okay, let's talk about pussy now. Since English is a bit difficult for me and having to help me with the translator, I'll try to make you a list of the brothels I have visited with some additional info.

All price are quoted in BRL and pay by cash, usually pay with credit have an upcharge.

When you go to brothels ask to add your number to their phone book to be able to see the photos of the girls on whatsapp.

Day time brothels.

The best for me is Massagem Tijuca – Avenida Paula Sousa 214, Maracanà - near Sao Cristovano metro.

[URL]https://www.massagemtijuca.com/[/URL]

120/30 min and 160/1 hour. Girls who do anal usually ask +50. Open on Saturday. This is the place for rimjob, many girls here licked my ass. I fucked: Joyce, Bruna, Jamile, Jaque, Jessica, Lorraine.

Anne Massagens – Rua General Roca 263, sala 201, Tijuca. Next to metro Saens Pena [URL]https://www.annemassagens.com/[/URL].

110/30 min and 150/1 HR. Girls who do anal usually ask +50. Open on Saturday. Fucked: Cecilia, Sara, Alexia. Many new girls joined the brothels on my last days, so no time to try them.

Ju Panteras. Rua Bento Lisboa 184,4th floor, Largo do Machado.

[URL]http://jupanteras.com/adm/[/URL]

Very discreet place that prefers to work on booking, send a message on whatsapp before you go. 120/30 min and 180/1 HR. I had a very good session with Brenda.

Avenida Treze de Maio 47. Sala 610 and 511 both places are disgusting.

Avenida Treze de Maio 33:3206 Sexy Hot Massagens, 2414 Lokal Zen, 2304 SEDUÇÃO X, 2210 Lavinia spa, 2101 Delicias Do Centro, 2102 Centro Bellas, 2103 Sexy House, 2106 Espaço Picante.

The elevators are a nightmare in this building, too slow. Average price 50/20 min and 80-100/30 min.

Most places have a nasty cabine. 3206 and 2414 probably have the "best" room in the building. Best line up at 3206 and 2102.

Avenida Rio Branco 185:

Bel Prazer sala 2114 [URL]https://www.belprazer.com/[/URL] price 110/30 min and 150/1 ora. Saturday promo 80/30. +50 for anal. Small nice room with ac and shower. Fucked: Mirela, Karina, Nanda, Thaisa.

Dany Massage sala 1308 – price 100/30 min and 150/1 HR. Room with ac and shower. Fucked Livia, great PSE anal and CIM included in the 100/30 min.

Studio Zen sala 405 - price 100/30 min and 150/1 HR. Nice room with ac and shower, only 5 girls.

Avenida Rio Branco 156, to access you must do the "cadastro" register with a copy of your passport and you must say the number of the sala you are going to, the elevators are divided by floors and to access there are turnstiles that open with the card that they give you after registration, a card that is also used to go out later. Since the elevators are divided by floors, for example, if you want to go to floor 22 and then to 33 you have to redo the cadastro.

3320 Dudas [URL]https://www.dudasmassagem.com/[/URL] price 130/30 min and 170/1 HR. Saturday promo 80/30 min. +50 for anal. Nice small room with ac and shower. Fucked: Loren and Beatriz.

2622 only 3 ugly girls work here. Price 100/30 min.

2235 Onix [URL]http://www.onixterapias.com/[/URL] 140/30 min and 170/1 HR. Ugly small room with ac and shower. Best girl here is Isis.

1833 AS TOPS DO CENTRO nasty place with 4 girls. Price 100/30 min and 150/1 HR here girls asking high price for anal like +200.

I think there are more brothels in this building but I didn't check it out.

Espaço Vital Terapias Rua Miguel Couto 130 - sala 301 very bad line up 100/30 min and 150/1 HR. Often they have promos.

Emporio do Banho Rua Do Rosario 135 sala 301 [URL]https://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/[/URL].

Prices 130/30 min and 170/1 HR. +50 for anal. Saturday promo 80/30 min. Probably the brothels with the best rooms in Centro. Excellent line up, many girls and some very beautiful, it's a pity that the performances are very subdued and many girls in the interview say no FK and only CBJ. Avoid Gaby and Monique, very bad service.

Praça Olavo Bilac 28:

Dark Room floor 20, cobertura 6. [URL]https://www.darkroom.com.br/[/URL] Prices 80/20 min, 100/30 min, 120/40 min, 150/1 HR. The only daytime brothel with bar where you can hangout with the girls. Nice line up, nice small room with ac, pity for the shower in the corridor. Sometimes this place is overcrowded and one shower is not enough. Fucked: Rebecca, Isis, Clara, Jully, Julia and Beatriz.

Sala 1417 went a couple of time, they said 8 girls line up, but I never saw more than 2 girls.

Sala 1317 prices 100/30 min and 150/1 HR. Good line up with several girls, quite ugly rooms, with a shower in the corridor.

TRASH.

These crappy little bars with disgusting rooms and blaring music can often reveal nice surprises. The problem is the timetable, there are trash like U24 that work during the day and close at 7 pm, others that start to fill up at 7 pm and others like Club 56 which comes alive after 10 pm. The line up can changes dramatically, one day it is full of girls and the next day the same club can be empty with only a few bad girls.

Average prices for half an hour range from 70 to 110 BRL, but there are also options of 10,20,40 minutes and 1 hour.

The places with the "best" rooms are Club 116 (small room with ac and shower) and Club 31.

Some clubs have really crappy cabins, but don't be sad, the girls are very willing to give you their phone number to meet them outside (before or after work) or you can take them out the club right away to fuck in a motel or in your apartment if you live in Centro.

Most of these clubs are behind Avenida Presidente Vargas and nearby is the Hotel Siviglia which rents the room for 50 BRL 1 hour.

The best for me are U210 and Club116. At 210 there are a lot of thin girls. I had a great fuck in 210 e 116.

Trash that I check out:

Rua Acre, 56.

Rua the Alfândega, 119.

Rua the Conceição, 114.

Rua the Conceição, 116.

Praça Olavo Bilac, 15.

Praça Olavo Bilac, 13.

Rua Uruguaiana, 210.

Rua Uruguaiana, 24.

Rua Uruguaiana, 145.

Rua Leandro Martins, 4.

Rua Leandro Martins, 3.

Praça Tiradentes, 64.

Rua the Carioca, 59.

Rua Alcântara Machado, 31.

Termas.

I Been to 4 x 4 (50 entry fee, 290/30 min) go there in the afternoon and try to fuck before 6 pm for got a free entry and Whiskeria65,50 entry fee all consumable in drinks and 275/30 min. Both place not worth the money they ask, plenty of girls but not much good quality IMHO.

4 x 4 Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro [URL]https://www.instagram.com/quatroporquatrowhiskeria/[/URL] [URL]https://www.quatroporquatroclass.com.br/[/URL].

Whiskeria65 Rua do Rosário, 65, Centro [URL]https://www.instagram.com/65whiskeria/[/URL] [URL]https://whiskeria65.com.br/[/URL].

Also been to MV30 Rua Mayrink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 20 and 200/30 min. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/mv30club/?hl=it[/URL].

Club 502 (Rua the Alfândega, 65 Centro) Entry fee 10,150/30 min, 200/40 min and 250/1 HR [URL]https://www.facebook.com/CLUB-502-103912501086888/[/URL].

Never been to Solarium, Montecarlo, Cancun, Centaurus.

Copacabana.

First holiday I went twice at Eden Spa Avenida Nossa Senhora Copacabana 583 - sala 401. Price 150/30 min and 200/1 HR. Performance here sucks.

Never been to Dolce Vita, Marrakesh, Casablanca. Sometimes I went to Mabs for a snack, some nights there is a lot of girls, other nights the place is pretty empty. Girls asking 300/400 for 1 HR, prices go down late in the night.

Barra de Tijuca.

On a Saturday evening went with a metro to Jardim Oceanico then walk to Olegario Maciel, full of people and really stunning girls, best girls I saw in two holidays. After a couple of drinks in the bars there walk to Perola Negra Av. Do Pepê, 400 – Posto 1 [URL]http://perolanegraclub.com.br/[/URL] entry fee is 30,250/30 min. 20/22 girls, low quality, only 2/3 girls I would like to fuck.

Realengo.

55/60 BRL one way with uber From Copacabana. There are 2 boate here Das Flores Av. Marechal Fontenelle, 5635 and Babilonia Av. Santa Cruz, 9. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/clubebabilonia/[/URL] clubs are close and you can walk from one to the other. Entry fee is 15 at Das Flores and 10 at Babilonia, both clubs have same prices for fuck 85/30 min and 145/1 HR. Das Flores have cabine with shower in the corridor for the 30 min and room with shower for 1 HR.

Babilonia been here once and was empty, only 2 girls and my friend and I were the only customers, leave after one drink.

Das Flores is always full of girls, been there 4 times and every nights there are over 30/35 girls. Good line up and good perfomance, girls don't upcharge for anal. For me this is the best nightclub in all Rio.

Campo Grande.

Very far from Copacabana 85/90 BRL one way with uber. Been here once, Friday afternoon at Club Refugio Estrada Rio-São Paulo, 3943 [URL]https://www.instagram.com/clubrefugio/[/URL] every Friday is open from 2 pm till 2:30 am you can spend the afternoon in their swimmingpool, take sun, chatting with the girls and fucking them. Entry fee is 20, drinks are cheap I spend around 70 for 3 soft drinks and 3 beers. Rooms are big, with ac, fan and toilet / shower. Prices are 130/30 min, 160/40 min and 200/1 HR. From Monday to Thursday the club is open at night.

Friday afternoon here is a nice change from the classic walk in day time brothels. Around 20 girls, 4/5 I would like to fuck, mood is relaxed and girls sit with you talking for awhile just for one beer, no pressure do go to the room. At 7 pm there is pagode live music and at 8 pm there is a free bbq (good quality).

After dinner we went to Buena Vistas Av. Cesário de Melo, 1385 - Sen. Vasconcelos [URL]https://buena.net.br/site1/[/URL] just 6 km from Refugio. Entry fee is 15,130/30 min and 190/1 HR. Relaxed place with billiards and table football, around 20/25 and better looking girls than Refugio.

On the way back home we saw Club Das Abusadas Estrada do Mendanha, 1039, Campo Grande [URL]https://www.instagram.com/mendanha.1039/[/URL] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Boate-club-as-Abusadas-109418471372515/[/URL] but not time to check it out. The driver said that Campo Grande is full of brothels, boate and hookers.

Bonsucceso.

Less than 40 BRL by Uber. I know 3 boate here. Fenix are. Leopoldo Bulhões, 2350 but friends told me that this place is really bad.

Be&W Av. Paris, 634 [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boateblackwhite[/URL] [URL]http://boateblackwhite.com.br/[/URL] entry fee 15,140/30 min, 170/40 min, 200/1 HR and 250/1 HR in the suite. Other rooms are small with ac and shower in the corridor. Line up with around 20 girls, friendly and funny place, did two rooms here and both girls did not ask extra money for anal.

Third place is Rios Club Rua Guilherme Maxwell, 389 [URL]http://boaterios.com.br/[/URL] just few minutes walk from be&W. Entry fee is 30,150/30 min, 190/40 min, 230/1 HR and 250/1 HR in the suite. The Club is very nice, unfortunately only 13 girls and only 2 of them I would like to fuck, not spent much time in here because my friends what to leave early and move to another club.

VILA VALQUEIRE.

Less than 40 BRL by Uber. Las Vegas Estrada Intendente Magalhaes 1183 [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boatelasvegasrj/?hl=it[/URL].

Entry fee is 15, prices are 160/40 min and 220/1 HR. Nice club but unfortunately only 8 girls on a Tuesday night, they told us that Thursday and Friday there are around 13/15 girls but I don't think we will go back any time soon.

ADS sites.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/[/URL]

I have used this site a couple of times, there are many others. I find this type of site for mongering really boring, go through the ads, look for reports on the Brazilian forums, contact them via WhatsApp, wait for them to answer you (if they do), chat and make an appointment. With the unknown that you never know who will open the door for you. Let's say these site are fine on days like a rainy Sunday, when the brothels are closed and you can't go to the beach.

General advice.

The P4P in Rio makes no sense or logic, one day a club can be the top and the next day a shit. Paying more does not guarantee a prettier pussy or a better fuck at all. You can do nice performances with nice pussies for 80 r and got a bad service for 300 r. If you like brothels, check them out all.

And always, always and everywhere interview the girl well and ask if she does everything you are interested in like FK, BBBJ, CIM, anal, if she asks for extras, etc. Don't take anything for granted.

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. [/QUOTE]Thanks for an excellent and informative report.

"The measure takes effect this Monday, with the publication of a decree in the Official Gazette. With this, the city becomes the first capital in the country to completely abolish the use of the item". [URL]https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equilibrioesaude/2022/03/rio-de-janeiro-derruba-obrigatoriedade-de-uso-de-mascaras-em-locais-fechados.shtml?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=comptw[/URL].

I agree with your best. I know where girls hang out but I did not know dark room has a bar.

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. ...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. Sorry for any mistakes, but English is not my native language.

I would like to give useful information especially to those who have never been to Rio de Janeiro and want to take a low cost pussy holiday. LOL.

[/QUOTE]Wow! That's got to be the best first report I've ever seen. Thank you so much for taking the time and all the details.

So what girls were your favorites?

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]Dark Room floor 20, cobertura 6. [URL]https://www.darkroom.com.br/[/URL] Prices 80/20 min, 100/30 min, 120/40 min, 150/1 HR. The only daytime brothel with bar where you can hangout with the girls. Nice line up, nice small room with ac, pity for the shower in the corridor. Sometimes this place is overcrowded and one shower is not enough. Fucked: Rebecca,[/QUOTE]Hey. You better stay away from Vagabundo's girl! We were in there and the lady asked if we wanted anyone. I kept telling her that I wanted her. I said how are you going to expect these girls to do something that you will not do. You need to lead by example.

Then Jingo said he did not want anyone.

Then Vagabundo said that he wants Rebecca, but she doesn't love him. The lady said these hoes don't love nobody; that is why they are hoes. I have not been able to get that out of my mind since.

First night out in Rio was ok, ruined by being full of cold and travelling for the past 20 hours or so.

Went to Monte Carlo as it was near the hotel and there was a few decent girls there (got nothing to compare then to yet though) but the one I picked I had a disappointing session with). This was my fault too due to the cold and tiredness but although she was friendly she didn't live up to the passionate Brazilian stereotype I've heard so much about. I'm sure I'll have better look tomorrow.

Probably going to try 4 x 4 and maybe some other Centro Termas tomorrow.

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. Sorry for any mistakes, but English is not my native language.
I would like to give useful information especially to those who have never been to Rio de Janeiro and want to take a low cost pussy holiday. LOL.[/QUOTE]WOW, First Report! Very Informative and Detailed!! Looks like you had a good time. Thanks for posting your experiences. Your posting should be a must read for New Mongers.

Yet more of my ironic, sardonic wit wasted like pearls before swine.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2671672]Hey. You better stay away from Vagabundo's girl! We were in there and the lady asked if we wanted anyone. I kept telling her that I wanted her. I said how are you going to expect these girls to do something that you will not do. You need to lead by example.

Then Jingo said he did not want anyone.

Then Vagabundo said that he wants Rebecca, but she doesn't love him. The lady said these hoes don't love nobody; that is why they are hoes. I have not been able to get that out of my mind since.[/QUOTE]

The Week in Baseball.

Today, Vagabundo went to Darkroom, and had a great session with Maya. 40 minutes of fucking out of 60 minutes. My true love (joking), Rebecca was not there. I like the vibe there, with the bar opening to the Rio cityscape -- not the fashionable waterfront either, but to the opposite side, towards the Tijuca mountains. 150 reais.

Well, let's see, Ana Zawaadi Foxxx came over Friday for a pernoite, 400.3 BBFS CIP pops. She is texting again promising 5 pops, and it is good to have options.

Prior to that last week Anne Amari came over for 3 consecutive pernoites for 800 reais. Beach, barbeque. 3 or 5 pops a day.

Entao. Get your ass to Rio.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2666546]Thanks for the tips, Sr Vagabundo. I happily second Contemporanio. It's a great place, just like the nearby hotel Granada where I stayed for one night some time ago. A clerk from that hotel recommended the place, and he was spot on. And maybe it's time for me to revisit Marius.

Yep, I'm a sucker for street food too.

Having said that, does anyone know of an excellent food spot with a fantastic sea view in Rio for a special occasion?[/QUOTE]Bar e Restaurante Urca (Bar Urca, desde 1939).

Loja: Bar e Sobreloja: Restaurante. Are. Seendido Gaffre, 205 - Urca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22291-080.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2666546]Thanks for the tips, Sr Vagabundo. I happily second Contemporanio. It's a great place, just like the nearby hotel Granada where I stayed for one night some time ago. A clerk from that hotel recommended the place, and he was spot on. And maybe it's time for me to revisit Marius.

Yep, I'm a sucker for street food too.

Having said that, does anyone know of an excellent food spot with a fantastic sea view in Rio for a special occasion?[/QUOTE]Flutuante Rio.

Very unique setup as it's a floating restaurant in the bay and there is a boat that brings you out to it and back.

Went to see Barra last night and Vagabundo was nice enough to show me around, thanks again.

We went to Perola Negra and I had a great time.

I was impressed with PN, it had some nice girls, much nicer facilities than Monte Carlo and half the price.

Got a beautiful black girl, she was petite with no fat on her yet still had a nice curvy ass (god bless the Brazilian bunda).

Good performance and really nice girl.

Vagabundo will be at Cinelandia Starbucks at 12 h30 for Centro Prives, VM, Mosaico (22 h), getting SIM chips at Metro Central. We had a great night at Perola Negra last night with Soberhands. We banged two girls, one a morena from mineira (always the best talent in Brazil), and a Negra from Rio (pretty fucking close to always the best talent in Brazil), then had a meal at Na Brasa Columbia.

Meet at Cinelandia Starbucks second floor.

Went with Vagabundo and Internash to Dark Room today and sessioned with a really nice black girl called Gabriella.

100 reals for 30 minutes, amazing value.

Vagabundo showed us a few of the trash prives and I was pleasantly surprised by the quality. Definitely some diamonds in the rough.

Also tried acai for the first time, was really nice and had food at Braseiro which was good value considering its in Copacabana.

French tourist attacked and knifed 5 times in Copacabana. The woman was smoking outside her hotel on Rua Francisco de Sá. A guy came up to her and attacked her with a knife.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/URL]

Big thanks brothers for the detail reports and info that you share! I just booked the ticket to Rio and will arrive at the end of the month. Your posts are truly useful for a Rio first timers like me. I am at quarantine at home after positive covid test and was just browsing pointlessness internet, then decided to check the tickets to Rio. At Skyscanner and saw a Lufthansa 275 euro ticket from Madrid to Rio. At first I didn't believed my eyes, then double checked and without thinking too much booked the ticket. Can't belive the price!

Anyway, I will arrive at the end of the month and will spend 2 weeks at Rio. Just wanted to say big thanks to all brothers that are sharing their experience and are giving advices and info. If some of you are still in Rio, it will be a pleasure to buy you a beer or two saying thanks in the real life.

Thanks.

This is why I moved to Barra, and will never go to Copa.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672563]French tourist attacked and knifed 5 times in Copacabana. The woman was smoking outside her hotel on Rua Francisco de S. A guy came up to her and attacked her with a knife.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672563]French tourist attacked and knifed 5 times in Copacabana. The woman was smoking outside her hotel on Rua Francisco de S. A guy came up to her and attacked her with a knife.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]All things aside, this French woman has a great body.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672563]French tourist attacked and knifed 5 times in Copacabana. The woman was smoking outside her hotel on Rua Francisco de S. A guy came up to her and attacked her with a knife.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Girl was doing nothing wrong. Smoking a cigarette in front of her hotel. I hope the catch the prick and teach him a little behavior modification RJ style. What an asshole.

BTW, what's the name of the hotel? Rua Francisco runs through a pretty good neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672563]French tourist attacked and knifed 5 times in Copacabana. The woman was smoking outside her hotel on Rua Francisco de S. A guy came up to her and attacked her with a knife.

[URL]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

What article are you guys reading? The one attached says she is from Sao Paulo. She only lives in France. She even has a Brazilian name... "A empresria [b]paulista Janaina da Silva Campos[/b], de 48 anos, que foi esfaqueada"
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2672708]All things aside, this French woman has a great body.[/QUOTE]This Brazilian has a great body to be a French woman?

Awesome intel.

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. Sorry for any mistakes, but English is not my native language.

I would like to give useful information especially to those who have never been to Rio de Janeiro and want to take a low cost pussy holiday. LOL.

Copacabana vs Cento

I spent the first part of the holiday in an Airbnb in Centro attached to the Carioca metro and the second part of the holiday in Copacabana between posto4 and posto5.

Although from Monday to Friday in the afternoon / evening I am always in Centro to check the brothels, I am also always on the beach in the morning. Considering the fact that all my friends live in Copacabana and considering the fact that in the evening Centro is deserted, with almost all the restaurants closed as early as 7 pm. I prefer to stay in Copa more than Centro and go to Centro just to hunt for pussy. Also Saturday and Sunday Centro is dead. Anyway probably Centro it's safer than Copa. And if you stay in Centro is easier to take out girls from brothels / trash to your apartment..[/QUOTE]

I'll be down for the carnival is there any chance I can find some place to watch the NFL draft?

Yes, the we went to Darkroom where I fucked Maya my favorite little nordic queen, who I shall give the callsign Amber Lynn.

She fulfills my fantasies of fucking that hot little blonde porn star of my youth, who really needed as much dick stuffed up her pink little pussy as possible.

I played Felipe Ret music on my cell phone. We just kind of banged for the better part of 40 minutes, and then she gave a great massage. $150 r.

Oh, that new black girl that Soberhands fucked is hot af, and has a nice ass, so I will have to explore her holes.

We walked around we 3, we happy few, we bought MMA shirts in the Popular Mercado, and vasco masks, and over at casa bombeiro those great shorts, and caps and other stuff, then over to Central station where we bought SIM chips, then to 116, which didn't have its full selection of top tier trash talent yet, and then to 210 where I got the number of a hot little slender redhead, and even passed it to internash, and then walked back to IBIS Central -- 10.6 kilometers.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2672477]Went with Vagabundo and Internash to Dark Room today and sessioned with a really nice black girl called Gabriella.

100 reals for 30 minutes, amazing value.

Vagabundo showed us a few of the trash prives and I was pleasantly surprised by the quality. Definitely some diamonds in the rough.

Also tried acai for the first time, was really nice and had food at Braseiro which was good value considering its in Copacabana.[/QUOTE]

When? We can do another mosaico event.

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2672734]I'll be down for the carnival is there any chance I can find some place to watch the NFL draft?[/QUOTE]

I will be in Rio tomorrow. PM me if anybody wants to meet up for drinks and hunting or 4 x 4.

P.S. Anybody been on the site [URL]meupatrocinio.com[/URL]? I am getting a lot of success on this site.

Just been to 4 x 4 for the first time, wow I love that place.

Was alone so wasn't really feeling the party atmosphere but I'm here for the pussy not partying.

Seen at least five girls I would have sessioned with. Ended up taking a really pretty mixed race girl called Ruby who surprisingly spoke some English.

Good BJ and fuck and had a laugh with her.

As I was leaving another girl told me I could cum in her ass but I politely declined, only in Brazil.

Been walking around Copacabana loads and had no bother off the homeless beggars but went to explore Leblon today and one kept pestering me. Had to shout at him to go away in the end after asking him nicely numerous times. What's the best thing to say in Portuguese to tell them to f*ck off?

I also noticed the check out people in the supermarkets here are even slower than Colombia, must be a Latin thing. Good job they don't fuck like they serve people or they'd have no customers.

Forgot to add I went to Galeto and Cia today for food and was really impressed.

Had the picancha steak with polenta fries and farofa de banana.

Really nice food and good prices.

Carnival 2022.

[URL]https://youtu.be/ldlaVl6Jw40[/URL]

This video shot at Metro Uruguiana is where we walked yesterday, and Lagoa, during carnival a week ago.

Subscribe to his videos!

Including his video of my 'hood, Barra posto 3.

You should also subscribe to porta dos fundos to learn porto to talk with your tinder dates.

I may have a mfing online class for Portuguese for mongers, or even a youtube channel, so that you pathetic puritan pussy prison inmates can get your Rio on when you hit the deck.

Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss Navy, the best anal lubricant for those tight anal holes in between those pretty Brazil bundas.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2672788]Yes, the we went to Darkroom where I fucked Maya my favorite little nordic queen, who I shall give the callsign Amber Lynn.

She fulfills my fantasies of fucking that hot little blonde porn star of my youth, who really needed as much dick stuffed up her pink little pussy as possible.

I played Felipe Ret music on my cell phone. We just kind of banged for the better part of 40 minutes, and then she gave a great massage. $150 r.

Oh, that new black girl that Soberhands fucked is hot af, and has a nice ass, so I will have to explore her holes..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2672734]I'll be down for the carnival is there any chance I can find some place to watch the NFL draft?[/QUOTE]You can probably watch it from wherever you are staying. When I was down for Superbowl I paid 6 reais on [URL]nfl.com[/URL] the night before. Turn on the TV and there it is for free on ESPN or whatever channel. The commentating and everything was in Portuguese though.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2672720]What article are you guys reading? The one attached says she is from Sao Paulo. She only lives in France.[/QUOTE]Her origin is Brazilian, but as she lives in France for 8 years she's definitely French. That makes her a French tourist visiting Brazil. Not that hard to understand.

Another poster wrote that he stole her mobile phone, incorrect. He didn't manage to steal anything.

[URL]https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/turista-agredida-no-rio-ele-dava-gargalhadas-enquanto-me-esfaqueava[/URL]

Really top notch and informative. Thanks.

[QUOTE=DrAxxx;2671587]First message, report of my first and second trip to Rio de Janeiro. Sorry for any mistakes, but English is not my native language.

I would like to give useful information especially to those who have never been to Rio de Janeiro and want to take a low cost pussy holiday. LOL.

Copacabana vs Cento

I spent the first part of the holiday in an Airbnb in Centro attached to the Carioca metro and the second part of the holiday in Copacabana between posto4 and posto5.

Although from Monday to Friday in the afternoon / evening I am always in Centro to check the brothels, I am also always on the beach in the morning. Considering the fact that all my friends live in Copacabana and considering the fact that in the evening Centro is deserted, with almost all the restaurants closed as early as 7 pm. I prefer to stay in Copa more than Centro and go to Centro just to hunt for pussy. Also Saturday and Sunday Centro is dead. Anyway probably Centro it's safer than Copa. And if you stay in Centro is easier to take out girls from brothels / trash to your apartment..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2672734]I'll be down for the carnival is there any chance I can find some place to watch the NFL draft?[/QUOTE]I get there 1st day of Draft so I will only catch the last day of Carnival. I'm a football fan and would like to catch it, so tell me if you have any luck viewing it.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672921]Her origin is Brazilian, but as she lives in France for 8 years she's definitely French. That makes her a French tourist visiting Brazil. Not that hard to understand.
[/QUOTE]LOL. I have lived in Thailand for 14 years since leaving Brazil, so I am definitely Thai? Last month I was a Thai tourist visiting Brazil? Very hard to understand.

When I was an American student living in Toulouse, France and me and my American classmates drove to Barcelona for the weekend, nobody referred to us as French tourists visiting Spain.

[URL]https://bombeirovagabundo.wordpress.com/2022/03/11/central-tour/[/URL]

This Video linked to the youtuber is a tour of central. Highly recommended!

Carioca Fake.

I'm a Swiss Naval Infantry Lieutenant Commander living in Brazil for the last 2 years, so I am Brazilian!

To become a man of the world, you must live 1001 nights, consecutively, in Rio de Janeiro.

I am a Carioca falsa -- a Carioca fake!

By the devil, and may he catch you before you enter heaven.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2673067]LOL. I have lived in Thailand for 14 years since leaving Brazil, so I am definitely Thai? Last month I was a Thai tourist visiting Brazil? Very hard to understand.

When I was an American student living in Toulouse, France and me and my American classmates drove to Barcelona for the weekend, nobody referred to us as French tourists visiting Spain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672921]Her origin is Brazilian, but as she lives in France for 8 years she's definitely French. That makes her a French tourist visiting Brazil. Not that hard to understand.

Another poster wrote that he stole her mobile phone, incorrect. He didn't manage to steal anything.

[URL]https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/turista-agredida-no-rio-ele-dava-gargalhadas-enquanto-me-esfaqueava[/URL][/QUOTE]Pretty scary watching her frantically trying to open the door to get back inside the hotel. It may have only been 3 seconds but that is a lifetime if someone is stabbing you repeatedly. (Thank goodness he had run off by then).

[QUOTE=Bravo;2673079]Pretty scary watching her frantically trying to open the door to get back inside the hotel. It may have only been 3 seconds but that is a lifetime if someone is stabbing you repeatedly. (Thank goodness he had run off by then).[/QUOTE]Poor woman. Lucky she reacted quickly. She had the sense of calling the attention of the hotel staff instead of having the crackudo chasing after her on empty streets. Quit a fit woman to be 48 years old. I think the hotel must be South American Copacabana Hotel.

The crackudo leaves quite calmly. He knows in a few hundred meters he can hide in Cantagalo / Pavão / Pavãozinho.

MrE, we can call her Brazilian if that makes you happy. At least in Europe, when an immigrant lives in a country for 8 years, working (she has a shop) and most probably having a citizenship, then she's considered having that nationality. However this is unimportant to this thread.

Yes, and the crackudo did not know how to use a knife, or he used a very bad one.

Had he been armed with any dive or hunting knife, those strikes could have been fatal in seconds.

It was most likely one of those knives commonly used for meals in Rio, 3-4 inches long but with a thin blade, which can leave some nasty puncture wounds still.

If he had aimed for eyes or a neck artery, he still could have killed her.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2673114]Poor woman. Lucky she reacted quickly. She had the sense of calling the attention of the hotel staff instead of having the crackudo chasing after her on empty streets. Quit a fit woman to be 48 years old. I think the hotel must be South American Copacabana Hotel.

The crackudo leaves quite calmly. He knows in a few hundred meters he can hide in Cantagalo / Pavo / Pavozinho.

MrE, we can call her Brazilian if that makes you happy. At least in Europe, when an immigrant lives in a country for 8 years, working (she has a shop) and most probably having a citizenship, then she's considered having that nationality. However this is unimportant to this thread.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mimic86;2672834]I will be in Rio tomorrow. PM me if anybody wants to meet up for drinks and hunting or 4 x 4.

P.S. Anybody been on the site [URL]meupatrocinio.com[/URL]? I am getting a lot of success on this site.[/QUOTE]Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

[QUOTE=Sargent50;2672734]I'll be down for the carnival is there any chance I can find some place to watch the NFL draft?[/QUOTE]Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

I would have thought it obvious to some, but whatever. Just a reminder that there is a [B]"Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety"[/B] thread relating to said talks. Carry on!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2672921]...Another poster wrote that he stole her mobile phone, incorrect. He didn't manage to steal anything...[/QUOTE]

According to Meia Hora, but lost in translation?:
[url]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/url]

PS: "Chorei o dia inteiro, depois que cheguei ao hotel. Ele (o responsvel pelo ataque) no queria me roubar, porque era s pegar o celular que estava no meu colo. Ele quis me machucar e isso choca. Nunca mais volto ao Rio", desabafa Janana.

"I cried all day after I arrived at the hotel. He (the person responsible for the attack) didn't want to rob me, because [b]he just took the cell phone that was in my lap.[/b] He wanted to hurt me and it shocks me. I'll never go back to Rio," Janana says.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2673227]"I cried all day after I arrived at the hotel. He (the person responsible for the attack) didn't want to rob me, because [b]he just took the cell phone that was in my lap.[/b] He wanted to hurt me and it shocks me. I'll never go back to Rio," Janana says.[/QUOTE]Yes, but if you watch the video, you can see that when it was all said and done, she still had her phone in the end.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2673227]I would have thought it obvious to some, but whatever. Just a reminder that there is a [B]"Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety"[/B] thread relating to said talks. Carry on!

According to Meia Hora, but lost in translation?:
[url]https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/policia/2022/03/6354936-turista-esfaqueada-em-copacabana-diz-que-nunca-mais-voltara-ao-rio.html[/url]

PS: "Chorei o dia inteiro, depois que cheguei ao hotel. Ele (o responsvel pelo ataque) no queria me roubar, porque era s pegar o celular que estava no meu colo. Ele quis me machucar e isso choca. Nunca mais volto ao Rio", desabafa Janana.

"I cried all day after I arrived at the hotel. He (the person responsible for the attack) didn't want to rob me, because [b]he just took the cell phone that was in my lap.[/b] He wanted to hurt me and it shocks me. I'll never go back to Rio," Janana says.[/QUOTE]Funny, he refers to another thread and still he answers here.

Strange, I'm just reporting about a case about a tourist getting knifed and the OFC tries to correct me. You use Google translate trying to understand an article, in a incorrectly way. Your translation is totally wrong. In your quote she tells that he didn't want to rob her, if so he could have just taken her mobile phone in her lap.

Furthermore read the article linked earlier:

[URL]https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/turista-agredida-no-rio-ele-dava-gargalhadas-enquanto-me-esfaqueava[/URL]

She says "Ele andão levou nada. Andão queria roubar". That is "he didn't steal anything."

Maybe even more simple would be watching the video in the article and you would see that she's still holding her mobile phone when she enters the hotel.

I know you love attacking my posts, even though I have you on my ignore list, buy maybe you can get off my back now.

Great Video of Barra, where I live.

[URL]https://youtu.be/B2t824qAOlU[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2673298]Funny, he refers to another thread and still he answers here. Strange, I'm just reporting about a case about a tourist getting knifed and the OFC tries to correct me ... [/QUOTE]Dude, don't flatter yourself.

Naturally since you first covered the story, I simply linked to your post (from "Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety"), to discuss a few things I thought were odd about the news article. My comments weren't directed at you, they w/r to the news article.

I posted/reported on what I had read/interpreted from the news article and thought a few things were odd, about what was covered in the story. Again, it had nothing to do with you and was commenting on the story itself.

Funny how you impose yourself on anything and everything you think is about you. It's NOT ABOUT YOU! Get a grip!

BTW, good luck with the whole [i]"...I have you on my ignore list"[/i], thing.

Anyway, I'll finish my response in kind in [b]"Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety" [/b]thread.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2673067]LOL. I have lived in Thailand for 14 years since leaving Brazil, so I am definitely Thai? Last month I was a Thai tourist visiting Brazil? Very hard to understand.[/QUOTE]I lived 10 years in Spain and I was always a guiri to my Spanish friends. I never considered myself being Spanish. My Colombian girlfriend who had a Spanish passport and had lived much longer there, was always a Colombiana to me.

I'm sitting on top the marriott hotel and there are 2 GDP who just proposition me. I guess it's girl friendly LOL.

Vagabundo, if I wanted to stay in barra for 1 or 2 months, are there new construction apartments built in the last 5 or 10 years, that are more American quality that I can rent short term.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2673523]I'm sitting on top the marriott hotel and there are 2 GDP who just proposition me. I guess it's girl friendly LOL.[/QUOTE]Are they quoting you stupid prices?

Went with Vagabundo to Centro today and first tried Dark Room but there was only 3 girls there with Vagabundo already arranged to go back for the only hot one imo.

Vagabundo was good enough to take me to Emporo before he went back to Dark Room and there was about 10 girls there, 3 of which were hot.

Ended up taking a cute, petite girl called Eloha or something like that and she gave me the standard good Brazilian performance. Couldn't believe it was only 80 reals for 30 minutes, amazing.

I then met another BM called Troy, forgot to ask his username, and he is a really cool guy. We all then went to the famous Confeitaria Colombo and two of us had food, which was nice.

Was planning on going to Mosaico tonight but no one else can make it so might just go to Mabs to watch the UFC if it's on and see if I can find a diamond in the rough.

Might trail up Leme tomorrow too.

I've been focusing most of my attention on SP. I fly in there the 23rd, but have noticed the Rio club is a lot more social, it looks like yall got some good OGs still to learn under. I figure I may as well go to Rio too since I'm down there. Are Centro and Copa the main gringo friendly areas with action? And what's the main diff between a Terma and Boate?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2673546]Vagabundo, if I wanted to stay in barra for 1 or 2 months, are there new construction apartments built in the last 5 or 10 years, that are more American quality that I can rent short term.[/QUOTE]Check you PMs. Sent you one.

Last day in Brazil, so I thought I would do a nice report.

Airport: you don't need data for uber. Take the escalator up to second or what I call the 3rd floor. The wifi works but you have to walk a little to get the best connection. I think its door see. Hotel wasn't girl friendly. Only the guest that you book a double with. I didn't mind because after the termas I wasn't interested in any more sex at night. Check in your fav and call her over when needed.

Termas: 4 x4, Montecarlo, Centaurus, 65, terma New York / Cancun, MV 30, solarium, and perola negro. 4 x4 was the best. Saw 2 nines in 5 minutes. Had 3 girls during the 2 visits. Cancun sucks now it's just a bar with girls. Spa part is closed. Carlo was average. Solarium had a couple good girls. Sexed 1 there with anal. Mv 30 was old school. Had a diamond in the ruff there. It's worth checking out if the turnover there works in your favor when you visit. 65 was awful. What a decline. Left quick. PN was bad. Didn't see anything there worth driving 30 minutes to barra for. The beach at night there is nice tho. One girl there looked to be 55 to 60. I ran out of there after her. Centaurus is the usual hustle. 2 girls will attach to you at the locker and not leave you alone. 40 minutes was reasonable price but 1 hour was over 600 reals. Won't be back.

Internet: was with 3 girls from there. 2 from the [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and one from the photoa. Site. The gp site girls were 100 pounds ago. It was the girl but many buffets and years ago. The other girl was real pretty but fake tits which I filtered out. The service was as advertised tho. Deep throat and overall great BJ, but the girls were 2 out of 10 in looks. Bottom line is avoid internet girls. You don't know what's behind that door. There are way too many options in person to mess with the net. If you want to roll the dice, do it on Sunday when everything is closed and you have no numbers.

Mabs was no good to me. As another BM said Help attracted the best girls from all over Latin America and is why it's missed by everyone. Mabs isn't attracting the best from anywhere. Bottom line if you are older like me and can only do 1 chica a day, don't worry if a hotel is girl friendly. You will be exhausted from the termas. If you are young and are doing 3 a day, then get a apartment and don't bother with the hotel hassle even if they are girl friendly. Get numbers from the termas during the week and call them for Sunday when termas are closed.

Working on the one tinder match with a 18 to 21 year old now. Will update on my terma numbers and tinder matches when I get back home.

To sum up, I'm older and just can't screw like before. There were some nights I slept from 7 pm till 3 am and didn't partake at all. Didn't really care about bringing girls to my hotel room. Didn't have the energy for it. I had a total of 6 lays, 2 DT BJ girls only. Total of 8 girls in 9 days and probably add one more tonight.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2673740]I've been focusing most of my attention on SP. I fly in there the 23rd, but have noticed the Rio club is a lot more social, it looks like yall got some good OGs still to learn under. I figure I may as well go to Rio too since I'm down there. Are Centro and Copa the main gringo friendly areas with action? And what's the main diff between a Terma and Boate?[/QUOTE]The differences can be subtle as described on the forum, but obvious when you are there. A boate in the ISG context is basically a night club frequented by mostly hookers. In Sao Paulo, the well-known "hooker" boates have rooms for sessions. The Rio termas also have rooms and can have some amenities like a sauna and massage. The termas are not the best places for these services, because girls and sex are the main draw. In some termas, the men will change into robes. This kind of fits the word "termas" which can translate to spa.

Most importantly, you can have a great time hanging out drinking and having sex on-site at both SP boates and Rio termas. If you follow the SP thread, you know you negotiate directly with the girl and pay for the room separately. If you session on-site at a Rio termas, you typically pay one fixed price for the girl's time and the type of room. Many of us will suggest that you just enjoy the termas festivities and ask the girl to give you her number in order to meet later at your place. You can negotiate a better deal for more time without the house taking their cut.

Rio hooker boates or bars are a very small sector compared to Sao Paulo, but most if not all of them are carry-out joints.

Now start reading about the various termas on this forum. I recommend starting at Termas 4 x 4 in Centro and Solarium in Lagoa / Jardim Botanico.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2673913]Last day in Brazil, so I thought I would do a nice report.

Airport: you don't need data for uber. Take the escalator up to second or what I call the 3rd floor. The wifi works but you have to walk a little to get the best connection. I think its door see. Hotel wasn't girl friendly. Only the guest that you book a double with. I didn't mind because after the termas I wasn't interested in any more sex at night. Check in your fav and call her over when needed.

Termas: 4 x4, Montecarlo, Centaurus, 65, terma New York / Cancun, MV 30, solarium, and perola negro. 4 x4 was the best. Saw 2 nines in 5 minutes. Had 3 girls during the 2 visits. Cancun sucks now it's just a bar with girls. Spa part is closed. Carlo was average. Solarium had a couple good girls. Sexed 1 there with anal. Mv 30 was old school. Had a diamond in the ruff there. It's worth checking out if the turnover there works in your favor when you visit. 65 was awful. What a decline. Left quick. PN was bad. Didn't see anything there worth driving 30 minutes to barra for. The beach at night there is nice tho. One girl there looked to be 55 to 60. I ran out of there after her. Centaurus is the usual hustle. 2 girls will attach to you at the locker and not leave you alone. 40 minutes was reasonable price but 1 hour was over 600 reals. Won't be back.[/QUOTE]Which hotel? It seems like Centro Prives / clinicas are the way to go now in Rio? The beach area I guess is now pure tourist trap.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2673599]Are they quoting you stupid prices?[/QUOTE]I spoke to them but I wasn't interested because I had a date that night and needed to save myself LOL, so I never asked.

Because of the virus airlines changed their schedules so instead of NY to Rio I had to go NY to São Paulo to Rio. NY to SP gru was a great flight especially sitting in first class, I used points when airlines were giving flights away, no more. What really sucked was gru airport getting from terminal A to be to catch a gol flight, it took me an hour to find gol checkin and then more time to find the gate, I'll never do that again.

I arrived this past Thursday and my itinerary has been same everyday. First night I went to dolce vita some girls approached me but I wasn't interested until by the stairs I saw a tall thin long dark hair long legs. I went and spoke to her, she was drinking whisky unusual for a girl and I told her we been together before because I only met one girl here who drinks whisky, I took her, sex was great on the balcony, she left and I went back in to DV and grabbed another one, she stayed all night.

Friday night I sat at Mabs, there were a couple good looking girls and many hags that I felt sorry for. I got up from my table once and when I got back there was a young very cute black girl sitting at my table, she was texting her mother who thought she was at her friends house, she was 20 years old, I said let's go, she was real cute tight and inexperienced but it's all good. After she left I was going to call it quits but the 2nd girl I met at DV the night before starts texting me, I went into the club, there were some very nice girls there but I left with the one who texted me as she was great and a known quantity.

Saturday night I took the girl from DV to dinner, so 3 nights in a row with her. We ate dinner, couple bottles of wine, after dinner drinks, we were lit, I said let's stop by DV and pickup another girl, she agreed. All 3 of us drank and fucked all night. This girl from DV is crazy about sex, one of the best I've ever had.

So first 3 days 2 girls everyday, spent a lot of money and I'm exhausted, taking today off.

Since there is some talk about crime, I'll share this video of a crime in action a few years ago.

[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2559934/us-tourist-who-fought-a-gunman-after-being-shot-in-botched-robbery-was-jailed-for-swearing-at-cops/[/URL]

Today me and Tboy2121 hiked up Leme during the day and then went to VM and Mosaico at night.

In VM I experienced the stale smell of urine and feces, the run down streets, the deafening funke music and dirty bars. My kind of place. Found it similar to Santa Fe Bogota but more run down yet seemed safer.

Had a quick look around the bars and noticed one or two diamonds in the extremely rough. Didn't session there as me and Tboy2121 wanted to go to Mosaico.

Paid the 30 reals entry fee to Mosaico and it was pretty quiet with it being a Sunday.

There was some really cute girls but two were sat with locals and the others kept disappearing and not showing us any intention except for one black girl with legs like Ronnie Coleman. I was in the queue to pay and leave behind one of the girls when she turned around and smiled and started talking to me.

She was tall, slim and with a nice ass and gave a good performance.

Paid 150 for 30 minutes, so was definitely good value.

The manager said they have a barbecue on tomorrow so may return then.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2673965]The differences can be subtle as described on the forum, but obvious when you are there. A boate in the ISG context is basically a night club frequented by mostly hookers. In Sao Paulo, the well-known "hooker" boates have rooms for sessions. The Rio termas also have rooms and can have some amenities like a sauna and massage. The termas are not the best places for these services, because girls and sex are the main draw. In some termas, the men will change into robes. This kind of fits the word "termas" which can translate to spa.

Most importantly, you can have a great time hanging out drinking and having sex on-site at both SP boates and Rio termas. If you follow the SP thread, you know you negotiate directly with the girl and pay for the room separately. If you session on-site at a Rio termas, you typically pay one fixed price for the girl's time and the type of room. Many of us will suggest that you just enjoy the termas festivities and ask the girl to give you her number in order to meet later at your place. You can negotiate a better deal for more time without the house taking their cut..[/QUOTE]I don't think that's the best way. If you go to termas and see a hot 20 yo and then just get her number and don't sleep with her, she will flake. I'm not going to go to 4 x 4 and just get numbers. Most of the girls will flake on their day off. Bang them in the room and then get numbers.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2674042]Since there is some talk about crime, I'll share this video of a crime in action a few years ago.

[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2559934/us-tourist-who-fought-a-gunman-after-being-shot-in-botched-robbery-was-jailed-for-swearing-at-cops/[/URL][/QUOTE]I remember that case. The police didn't like the gringo was stamping on the robbers head when he was imprisoned. The PM removed the gringo and he cursed the police and got imprisoned as well for some hours. Cursing police officers isn't a smart move. Stamping on prisoners head is a privilege that only the PMs have.

I asked the same question, I may just go to SP where I know of 2 sports bars that will def have it on.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2673063]I get there 1st day of Draft so I will only catch the last day of Carnival. I'm a football fan and would like to catch it, so tell me if you have any luck viewing it.[/QUOTE]

Yesterday, Saturday, I woke up with Ana Zawaadi Foxxx on a pernoite (400 r). We fucked for two more pops, the second up her bunda for a nice anal ride. Since I like [URL]kink.com[/URL] porn, but I don't want to freak out the girls too much, I settled on The Upper Floor scenes with Ana Foxxx, in particular ones which have a white girl in a submissive role. My real life Ana Foxxx seemed to like that, as Brazilians are very race conscious as we have discussed here often. I also played Maria Gadu. There's a pro tip for those ISGers who do not speak Porto, which is most. Maria Gadu is a female singer with a beautiful voice, very mellow, and good for the right mood for pernoite, mellow. I find playing Maria Gadu along with the hardest of BDSM porn can make it a good environment for the girl.

Anyway, I had a good pernoite with Ana Zawaadi Foxxx, 20, who is pretty and we have been fucking for a little more than a year, maybe a year and a half.

She negotiated for a uber ride back to her neighborhood when were getting ready for our final fuck of the morning. I told her I wanted to fuck her ass for a uber ride home. And she gave up her ass, and it was good.

After I sent Ana Zawaadi Foxxx on her way, Soberhands was looking to head to centro prives, and I linked up with him in Copa. We got a city bus to centro. It let us off at Praca XV. I take it for granted now that I know the city well. I am fairly good at Land Nav, having learned in the hills of Lugano and Grindelwald as a Swiss Naval Infantry Officer Candidate! We patrolled over to Darkroom (150 r for 1 h, or a Cost per fuck of 75 r), I picked the little Amber Lynn look alike, and scheduled for her. I took my wingman over to Banho do Imperio, or whatever it is called. It is Rua do Rosario 135,3 d floor. There were 10 girls, and several hot ones. My wingman found a target, and I returned to bang Amber Lynn for two more pops, which would make a total of 4 pops for my Saturday, before 14 h.

I did link up with Soberhands and TBoy at the Confeteira Colombo (sure I am spelling it wrong). It was good, a little overpriced. I'd still prefer Cais do Oriente for the 70 reais.

The night before, Friday, as mentioned, I picked up Ana Zawaadi Foxxx at Central train station. I try to train my hoars to take the metro, unless they live nearby like Jacaparagua. I did pick up Ana there, and then actually took the metro to Barra, where we took a uber. We fucked twice at night, good long 30 minute long fucks.

I had dropped off Anne Amari a little earlier in the night. We had spent a pernoite the previous night, which was also good. So I was at 4 or 5 fucks by Friday night. Anne Amari and I fucked a few times Thursday. I paid Anne 300 r pernoite, and bought her all the food she wanted, as well as taking her back to a metro or city bus and getting her fare to get her back to where she lives.

So, then after eating in centro on Saturday, I had to crash, and took the metro back to Barra along with TBoy and Soberhands, and I crashed — well into Sunday morning.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2674166]I don't think that's the best way. If you go to termas and see a hot 20 yo and then just get her number and don't sleep with her, she will flake. I'm not going to go to 4 x 4 and just get numbers. Most of the girls will flake on their day off. Bang them in the room and then get numbers.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. I go to termas and boates to meet girls, have a good time and to shag girls. If I was not into the the good time part I would probably frequent clinicas and prive's a lot more.

So IMHO going to a bordello just to get numbers is a good way to waste a night. To each his own, but I do not see any satisfaction to it. I will shag the girl and get her number only if I want to see her again, but even then, it is usually more convenient to just go back to her place of work, except on Sundays and her day off, and do her in-house. The only thing positive about the numbers game is it can save a few bucks if you are short on financing, but time is money, so I don't see any real savings to it. My time is a very valuable asset which I choose not want to waste.

I have tried Anne's Massagen and Tijuca Massagen. If you compare with the same price range in Centro (150/ hour) then the rooms are way better. I guess it is because the properties are cheaper in those areas so they can provide better facilities. There seems to be a strange inverse relationship between looks of girls and facilities quality. There is something I would call the geisha phenomenon. The better the facilities the more makeup the girls use.

Personally I am a Volvo XC70 kind of guy. A sports car is nice to look at but I want something I can trust that takes me from A to be as comfortably as possible. I am not a auto journalist so how does this relate to mongering? Usually the best looking girls are the worst fucks. It is even worse when the girl pretends to be a sports car but really is just a V70 that gets stuck as soon as you go off-road. When I buy something I want to know what I am really getting.

I can not complain about the service at any of the houses, it was good. But looks wise I do not think they can compete with the Centro houses. One interesting thing is that on all occasions I have given the girls oral sex after I get my orgasm. They really get carried away and 3 times they forgot about the time and spent between 30 and 60 minutes longer then the hour I paid for. Many times they get 2 orgasms and when they come their legs are like an anaconda that try to strangle you. The reason for the 4 degree s difference is supposed to be something with the currents bringing cooler water here.

Still something strange happened this night. Aircon was not working so went to bed with open window and it was not very hot when I fell asleep. Then suddenly at 02.00 I woke feeling hot as hell and had itch all other the body. Eventually past 03.00 It change again and I could sleep the rest of the night. Next day I spoke with another guy that lives nearby and he had experienced the same thing with waking up in the middle of the night being hot as hell. Did not ask him about the itching though. Does anyone now anything about this or experienced the same? Someone that lives here under longer periods maybe knows what causes it?

I have realized the 150 / hour girls in Rio does not give you instant boner but they get the job done. With check out they better establishments in Rio and Sao Paolo later.

I am currently in Buzios and before that Arraial do Cabo. It surprised me that there is 4 degree difference between Rio and Arraial do Capo. Only about 160 km apart and both at same latitude. Much more pleasant here. Rio weather really suck. They say it takes 2 + weeks to adjust but I been in the region 3 now and have not noticed any difference. When I walk in Rio I soak the shirt just walking couple hundred meters.

Yeah I'm sure it will be on in my hotel room but I don't want to watch it from there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2672877]You can probably watch it from wherever you are staying. When I was down for Superbowl I paid 6 reais on [URL]nfl.com[/URL] the night before. Turn on the TV and there it is for free on ESPN or whatever channel. The commentating and everything was in Portuguese though.[/QUOTE]

I DM you as well, but it's 4/28.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2672827]When? We can do another mosaico event.[/QUOTE]

The difference is cost per fuck. I get numbers and don't session at termas so the girl doesn't pull the bullshit of trying to get the same price per hour of spending 24 or 48 hours with me.

I get tier 1 terma girls for 500 pernoite. In a terma you are paying them 270 for 40 minutes, or 400 for 60 minutes.

That said, I am like Bubba Boy, living here, and most mongers who come in are here for a few weeks, so they feel like they have to pull the trigger right away.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2674265]I could not agree more. I go to termas and boates to meet girls, have a good time and to shag girls. If I was not into the the good time part I would probably frequent clinicas and prive's a lot more.

So IMHO going to a bordello just to get numbers is a good way to waste a night. To each his own, but I do not see any satisfaction to it. I will shag the girl and get her number only if I want to see her again, but even then, it is usually more convenient to just go back to her place of work, except on Sundays and her day off, and do her in-house. The only thing positive about the numbers game is it can save a few bucks if you are short on financing, but time is money, so I don't see any real savings to it. My time is a very valuable asset which I choose not want to waste.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tottem;2674275]I have tried Anne's Massagen and Tijuca Massagen. If you compare with the same price range in Centro (150/ hour) then the rooms are way better. I guess it is because the properties are cheaper in those areas so they can provide better facilities. There seems to be a strange inverse relationship between looks of girls and facilities quality. There is something I would call the geisha phenomenon. The better the facilities the more makeup the girls use.

Personally I am a Volvo XC70 kind of guy. A sports car is nice to look at but I want something I can trust that takes me from A to be as comfortably as possible. I am not a auto journalist so how does this relate to mongering? Usually the best looking girls are the worst fucks. It is even worse when the girl pretends to be a sports car but really is just a V70 that gets stuck as soon as you go off-road. When I buy something I want to know what I am really getting..[/QUOTE]I asked this in the SP thread but perhaps my wording was a little neurotic. Are there any Asian centric Clinicas in Rio or SP? On my bucket list is doubling with 2 Japinhas.

Lesson learned mosaico. Need interpreter.

This is a good report.

The lesson learned is team ISG needs a Porto speaker, and I will do that.

We will do it on the 28th, and again this week before you leave field marshal soberhamds.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2674091]Today me and Tboy2121 hiked up Leme during the day and then went to VM and Mosaico at night.

In VM I experienced the stale smell of urine and feces, the run down streets, the deafening funke music and dirty bars. My kind of place. Found it similar to Santa Fe Bogota but more run down yet seemed safer.

Had a quick look around the bars and noticed one or two diamonds in the extremely rough. Didn't session there as me and Tboy2121 wanted to go to Mosaico.

Paid the 30 reals entry fee to Mosaico and it was pretty quiet with it being a Sunday.

There was some really cute girls but two were sat with locals and the others kept disappearing and not showing us any intention except for one black girl with legs like Ronnie Coleman. I was in the queue to pay and leave behind one of the girls when she turned around and smiled and started talking to me..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2674170]I remember that case. The police didn't like the gringo was stamping on the robbers head when he was imprisoned. The PM removed the gringo and he cursed the police and got imprisoned as well for some hours. Cursing police officers isn't a smart move. Stamping on prisoners head is a privilege that only the PMs have.[/QUOTE]I 100% understand the American's anger. If a piece of crap pulled the trigger on the gun 4 freaking times to shoot me when I wasn't resisting, I would give him the Pele to the face and head too. In fact, I would slip the police 500 reais to give me 3 extra minutes of beat down time with the criminal or pay them to use the batons on him!

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2674091]In VM I experienced the stale smell of urine and feces, the run down streets, the deafening funke music and dirty bars. My kind of place. Found it similar to Santa Fe Bogota but more run down yet seemed safer.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Vila Mimosa, but I have been to Santa Fe in Bogota many times. The descriptions of VM make SF seem clean LOL!

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2674166]I don't think that's the best way. If you go to termas and see a hot 20 yo and then just get her number and don't sleep with her, she will flake. I'm not going to go to 4 x 4 and just get numbers. Most of the girls will flake on their day off. Bang them in the room and then get numbers.[/QUOTE]My bad. I did not mean to say one should not session at the termas. If one is in Rio for a short trip, you can make good use of time by sessioning on-site and collecting numbers. If a girl is an excellent performer in the cabine, I try to follow-up with her outside the venue where we can have more time together. Sometimes, I just fired my bullets in the cabine and I see another girl I like so I hit her up for her number.

There's many ways to play calling / texting up termas girls. Afternoon fun knowing Brazilian girls might flake or be extremely late. Termas 4 x4 my favorite is closed Saturday and Sunday. Other termas are closed Sundays. I have a better chance of meeting up with termas girls on these days. I've hit it off with termas girls and they have come back to my apartment right after the termas closed. Of course, that makes for a long night for both of us.

This all goes with the territory whether it be Rio termas or Sao Paulo boates.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2674304]I am like Bubba Boy, living here, and most mongers who come in are here for a few weeks, so they feel like they have to pull the trigger right away.[/QUOTE]Yeah and I am sure you have a long list of girls so it's no problem, maybe even a pleasure, to take the night off and go hunting or you may have already scheduled a late night rendezvous for later after you are done scouting for new talent. I understand.

I usually travel for 10 or 12 weeks per trip myself, but I don't stay in one city. I like to move around a little. So for example; a Brazil trip, I will might spend 2. 5 weeks in RJ, 5 or 6 weeks in SP, and sometime in between fly up north for a dune beach break for a week or so solo or with my favorite girl. My lists of repeat worthy girls, girls I really like, gets large over time and multiple trips. Favorites begin to fill up my dance card and I seldom do these girls in their establishments any more. We both prefer to prearranged dates at their apartments or at my hotel. It's real nice. GFE. I think of it as modified short time because these visits usually run 3 to 4 hours and includes 2 boom booms and dinner for the same price as a ST (her price) in the boate or terma.

But I always want & need to have new girls and so I try to set aside at least 3 days a week for that side of the sport. When I go out looking for new girls, I still prefer meeting them, then after a little friendly get to know you, shagging them on the spot in their bordello, at least the first time over taking their number and moving on.

As I am sure you are aware, punters can take girls out of boates in SP for the same fee as the room charge. Boate takeout is great for guys looking for all nighter's I. E. LT, but it is not for me. I would rather do 2 new girls per night or do a new girl and then later do one I already know in-house at the boate over taking 1 girl I do not know yet home for an all nighter.

There are many different ways and means to hook up with girls and have a good time. Our two different approaches are a case in point. In fact I am sure some modification in my present method will naturally occur after I cut the cord and begin living in BKK, Pat, or RJ; my top 3 contenders. For starters I can't see myself shagging 1 or 2 girls every night in perpetude. But I don't know. I guess I will just have wait and see how it turns out.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2674341]I have never been to Vila Mimosa, but I have been to Santa Fe in Bogota many times. The descriptions of VM make SF seem clean LOL![/QUOTE]I do not actually consider Santa Fe as dirty. In many places you walk in the rooms and you can see new sheets and the floor freshly mopped. In VM you probably will not even get sheets. If you do then they have literally been on the bed for maybe months. I have been to Congress House in Mumbai, the Crack Shacks in Pattaya, and Santa Fe in Bogota. I can honestly say that VM is the most grimey, unsanitary place that I have ever been to. Sober forgot to add the stale beer smell in his description; like a bar that has not been cleaned for 6 weeks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2674424]I do not actually consider Santa Fe as dirty. In many places you walk in the rooms and you can see new sheets and the floor freshly mopped. In VM you probably will not even get sheets. If you do then they have literally been on the bed for maybe months. I have been to Congress House in Mumbai, the Crack Shacks in Pattaya, and Santa Fe in Bogota. I can honestly say that VM is the most grimey, unsanitary place that I have ever been to. Sober forgot to add the stale beer smell in his description; like a bar that has not been cleaned for 6 weeks.[/QUOTE]And it is these detailed descriptions that keep me away VM. I didn't fly all the way to Brazil just to fuck in squalor! Thing is, I have never really thought of Santa Fe as being "dirty" either. Especially as compared to all of the honest description of VM. Maybe I will do a quick walk-thru of VM one day just to say I've been there and done that haha!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2674424]I do not actually consider Santa Fe as dirty. In many places you walk in the rooms and you can see new sheets and the floor freshly mopped. In VM you probably will not even get sheets. If you do then they have literally been on the bed for maybe months. I have been to Congress House in Mumbai, the Crack Shacks in Pattaya, and Santa Fe in Bogota. I can honestly say that VM is the most grimey, unsanitary place that I have ever been to. Sober forgot to add the stale beer smell in his description; like a bar that has not been cleaned for 6 weeks.[/QUOTE]There's actually a few places within VM that have nice, clean, AC rooms.

About 50 k for the hour, plus whatever you pay your girl.

Those are the only rooms I use at VM.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2674436]...50 k...[/QUOTE]You need to turn Colombia off here. Haha.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2674436]There's actually a few places within VM that have nice, clean, AC rooms.

About 50 k for the hour, plus whatever you pay your girl.

Those are the only rooms I use at VM.[/QUOTE]Are these the VM establishments / rooms on your list that you use? Are there anymore to include?

Novo Hotel Canario (aka [URL=https://www.google.com/maps/place/Aranton+Hotel/@-22.9089522,-43.2198527,17z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x997efec4e0556d:0x2d3f684f2c897753!2sR.+Cear%C3%A1,+221+-+S%C3%A3o+Crist%C3%B3v%C3%A3o,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ,+20270-160,+Brazil!3b1!8m2!3d-22.9089418!4d-43.2175498!3m4!1s0x997efe4df123a7:0x3be649b7bb8a8fdd!8m2!3d-22.9089224!4d-43.217571]Aranton Hotel[/URL]).

Hotel Malaga [URL]https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/[/URL].

Vagabundo will be doing a tour starting from Motel Malaga on Thursday at 19 h.

Aconchega Carioca to eat.

Then VM,

Then Mosaico.

I recommend going to Massagemtijuca before hand.

I could meet up in Copa and take you by Metro in the afternoon.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2674539]Are these the VM establishments / rooms on your list that you use? Are there anymore to include?

Novo Hotel Canario (aka [URL=https://www.google.com/maps/place/Aranton+Hotel/@-22.9089522,-43.2198527,17z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x997efec4e0556d:0x2d3f684f2c897753!2sR.+Cear%C3%A1,+221+-+S%C3%A3o+Crist%C3%B3v%C3%A3o,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ,+20270-160,+Brazil!3b1!8m2!3d-22.9089418!4d-43.2175498!3m4!1s0x997efe4df123a7:0x3be649b7bb8a8fdd!8m2!3d-22.9089224!4d-43.217571]Aranton Hotel[/URL]).

Hotel Malaga [URL]https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2674612]afternoon.[/QUOTE]Hi vagabundo. I'm going to Rio in may (and then maybe nordeste, I'm staying for some 4 weeks minimum in Brazil). What's the best hotel in Rio for the first days? I was thinking of staying close to barra flats, to check the action there? And it seems a nice place, barra the tijuca? You can get ocean view hotels for 1800 reais? Or better a booking or Airbnb flat? Thank you so much.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2674539]Are these the VM establishments / rooms on your list that you use? Are there anymore to include?

Novo Hotel Canario (aka [URL=https://www.google.com/maps/place/Aranton+Hotel/@-22.9089522,-43.2198527,17z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x997efec4e0556d:0x2d3f684f2c897753!2sR.+Cear%C3%A1,+221+-+S%C3%A3o+Crist%C3%B3v%C3%A3o,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ,+20270-160,+Brazil!3b1!8m2!3d-22.9089418!4d-43.2175498!3m4!1s0x997efe4df123a7:0x3be649b7bb8a8fdd!8m2!3d-22.9089224!4d-43.217571]Aranton Hotel[/URL]).

Hotel Malaga [URL]https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm referring to some rooms within VM.

In the bars.

Most bars have those bad rooms, however, there are some nice ones to be found as well.

They call them the 'suites'.

[QUOTE=UniversalX;2674539]Are these the VM establishments / rooms on your list that you use? Are there anymore to include?

Novo Hotel Canario (aka [URL=https://www.google.com/maps/place/Aranton+Hotel/@-22.9089522,-43.2198527,17z/data=!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x997efec4e0556d:0x2d3f684f2c897753!2sR.+Cear%C3%A1,+221+-+S%C3%A3o+Crist%C3%B3v%C3%A3o,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ,+20270-160,+Brazil!3b1!8m2!3d-22.9089418!4d-43.2175498!3m4!1s0x997efe4df123a7:0x3be649b7bb8a8fdd!8m2!3d-22.9089224!4d-43.217571]Aranton Hotel[/URL]).

Hotel Malaga [URL]https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is what you are talking about. I am not sure of the suites Balboa mentions.

Do you know man girls here in Rio who offer bareback?

I'm getting back in the game and been looking for some.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2669422]Vagabundo had kind of a down day after a swing thing last night in which he ploughed the ass of a morena clara bent over while she was getting face fucked. It was a swing thing in Gloria.

Oh, Rio.

Anne comes over today. We smoke, bareback fuck, and generally chill. I must have her in a dupla soon with Ana Foxxx, who keeps wanting to come over.[/QUOTE]

When is the next meet up? I found some great talent the last time I was there. One of them I fucked bareback a few times more.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2665375]Sunday, 23 h, Mosaico. The ISG crew is having it's weekly meet up. Who is in? Confirm with Senor Nounce or Senor Jimmyboy.[/QUOTE]

Went to Whiskeria 65 last night in Centro with BM Troy2121 and had a good time.

The talent whilst not as good as 4 x 4 was still really good, similar prices though.

Took a mixed race girl from Sao Paulo and the session was good.

In the Eliza Sanches Suite at Mosaico, you can overlook the street to VM, less than 200 meters away.

In that suite, Vagabundo fucked Monica Mattos 1 in her ass, while she ate out Monica Mattos 2, while Belladonna with a strapon fucked Monica Mattos 1 in her pussy.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2674612]Vagabundo will be doing a tour starting from Motel Malaga on Thursday at 19 h.

Aconchega Carioca to eat.

Then VM,

Then Mosaico.

I recommend going to Massagemtijuca before hand.

I could meet up in Copa and take you by Metro in the afternoon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2674919]Do you know man girls here in Rio who offer bareback?

I'm getting back in the game and been looking for some.[/QUOTE]I stay away from the man girls.

I'm sorry I couldn't help myself. Only joking.

Thursday, 19 h, motel Malaga, then vm, mosaico.

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2674922]When is the next meet up? I found some great talent the last time I was there. One of them I fucked bareback a few times more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675034]In the Eliza Sanches Suite at Mosaico, you can overlook the street to VM, less than 200 meters away.

In that suite, Vagabundo fucked Monica Mattos 1 in her ass, while she ate out Monica Mattos 2, while Belladonna with a strapon fucked Monica Mattos 1 in her pussy.[/QUOTE]Vagabundo, hotels or places to stay? Thank you,

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2669422]Vagabundo had kind of a down day after a swing thing last night in which he ploughed the ass of a morena clara bent over while she was getting face fucked. It was a swing thing in Gloria.

Oh, Rio.

Anne comes over today. We smoke, bareback fuck, and generally chill. I must have her in a dupla soon with Ana Foxxx, who keeps wanting to come over.[/QUOTE]Vagabundo, I'm in Rio for 3 weeks this May. Can I WhatsApp you? I'm trying to get in some of that gangbang action.

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2674919]Do you know man girls here in Rio who offer bareback?

I'm getting back in the game and been looking for some.[/QUOTE]"man girls" or "many girls"??

[QUOTE=Nounce;2674445]You need to turn Colombia off here. Haha.[/QUOTE]Whoops! You're right!

I bop between the 2 often, and confuse myself, LOL.

Thanks.

I took a regular, Monique, to a nude beach at her request about a year and a quarter ago. We picked up a white couple for a swing / swap thing at my ap in Barra, and we have been swapping our girls ever since, but it is kind of a closed thing for Brazilian friends, kind of bring a bottle of wine to a wine party. So I can't guarantee anything, but I will meet up with you and other ISGers and go to Mosaico, VM.

Needless to say, you should bring fresh blood tests.

But it is not a thing where I can bring other people, especially a guy, and moreover a gringo.

Again, the single biggest thing is learn Porto, etc.

[QUOTE=JoeRoc;2675237]Vagabundo, I'm in Rio for 3 weeks this May. Can I WhatsApp you? I'm trying to get in some of that gangbang action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675410]I took a regular, Monique, to a nude beach at her request about a year and a quarter ago. We picked up a white couple for a swing / swap thing at my ap in Barra, and we have been swapping our girls ever since, but it is kind of a closed thing for Brazilian friends, kind of bring a bottle of wine to a wine party. So I can't guarantee anything, but I will meet up with you and other ISGers and go to Mosaico, VM.

Needless to say, you should bring fresh blood tests.

But it is not a thing where I can bring other people, especially a guy, and moreover a gringo.

Again, the single biggest thing is learn Porto, etc.[/QUOTE]I understand. Thank you and much respect.

Vagabundo, didn't you see my messages?

See the attached map. This is the most important map in Rio. This is the metro map. This is how most Cariocas get around.

My recommendation about where to stay are:

1. Metro Jardim Oceanico. Search for places as near to Ave de pepe 400 (Perola Negra), or Olegario Maciel 7 (Na Brasa Colombia) as possible. PN is the best terma in Rio IMHO. We had a great night there last week, super talent, super hot negra from Rio, super hot morena from MInas. The talent there goes back and forth with 4 x4. Good rooms, including a BDSM suite. Walk to the metro to go do the centro prive thing. Beach is clean, and is where the girls from PN will come before work. The metro station is new since Bubba wrote his guide in 2013, and it is the driver of economic and social growth.

[URL]https://youtu.be/B2t824qAOlU[/URL]

Above is a good video of Barra.

2. Botafogo. Search for places at or near Rua Sao Clemente 114, close to the best sex motel, Panda. Then you can take the metro to centro and take the bus to Solarium, and all the wealthy, upper middle class districts between botafogo and PUC, where you should take English if you stay long enough. Botafogo is the real, upper middle class, but mixed race carioca the gema neighborhood. You should also consider Flamengo, Largo do Machado, and even Catete.

Do not stay in Copa. Copa is dangerous, the water is dirty, basically a toilet bowl. Criminals go to Copa to find victims. Be the bat, not the ball. Most board members have different views about Copa which is kind of times square compared to Barra being Miami.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2675120]Vagabundo, hotels or places to stay? Thank you,[/QUOTE]

Rio de Janeiro has always been a city that I have wanted to visit as a tourist. Of course, I read about the termas on ISG and heard about Rio from others, but it remained way down on my list of places to visit as a hobbyist. When I decided to go to Sao Paulo for my pilgrimage to Scandallo, I figured I would include a trip to Rio as well. I planned out four nights out of my nine in Brazil to spend in Rio and booked a flight on Azul Airlines a few weeks before my flight to SP. As I shared on the Sao Paulo forum, this decision was the biggest mistake of my trip.

I flew from CDH to SDU on a Tuesday. Both airports are relatively small and super convenient. Getting my bags at SDU was quick and easy but I struggled finding Uber because there were no signs. I asked two different airport employees, none of which spoke English, and they pointed me in the same direction. If you ever fly into SDU and want to take an Uber, it's down at what's called the Uber Lounge at the very far end of the airport past the small shopping mall. Yes, just keep walking to the very end!

I decided to stay at the Hilton Copacabana because I had a good corporate rate and it looked like it was conveniently located. Given the previous afternoon I had at the Taj Mahal and that I was up all night / morning with garota #4 from Scandallo, I decided to rest for a bit and then hit Solarium and Centaurus. I am not sure I would recommend the Hilton, but it was relatively cheap and they serve a great burger on the 39th floor. Breakfast was terrible there, however.

I arrived at Solarium around 7:30 pm and my first impression was just how small it was especially compared to Scandallo. For those that have not been, Solarium is a small 3 or 4 story building. When you first enter the reception area you are told the pricing structure and then given a locker key with a number. As I recall, the pricing consisted of your entry, the cost of the room that you choose and the cost of a girl for an hour and you pay before you leave (plus your drinks). I went into the locker room and changed into a robe and flipflops and then walked up some stairs to the bar area. It's a really small bar with bench seating around the perimeter and a small bar in the corner. I ordered a cold beer and sat down on the bench to scope out the talent in the room. My first reaction was "OMG! WTF am I doing here? I could be at Scandallo right now!" Most of the ladies at Solarium were curvy and heavily tattooed. I am typically the type of guy that will quickly cut my losses and leave, but I decided to give it an hour. After about 30 minutes I saw something interesting. A beautiful little fun-size spinner with a great smile. I was pleasantly surprised that this little lady spoke excellent English and was very kind and pleasant. What's interesting about Solarium is that once you agree to go to a room with a lady, she takes your key with her and arranges a room for the two of you. She also puts on a sexy outfit to wear in the room for you and then comes back in the bar area to get you. I had a nice time in the room with my lady but was ready to head out and make my way to Centaurus. I do believe that I might have kept this lady for 2-3 hours had I just arrived from the USA and not come from SP. Admittedly, I did not appreciate her as much as I should have.

I arrived at Centaurus around 10 pm and noticed a lot of similarities with Solarium. The bar area at Centaurus is just a little bigger but here the ladies are more forward but not to the point of being aggressive. I ordered a beer, sat down on the bench and was quickly approached by a few ladies. One was relatively attractive and appeared to have a remarkable body. I did see a couple of other girls that I might have been interested in, but this flirtatious lady had her hands inside my robe and was stroking my penis to the point where I could not say no. We made our way upstairs into a room. My time with this lady was awesome, but at this point in the trip the penis was becoming increasingly sore and her teeth didn't make the situation better. I finished up with her, paid my bill before leaving and headed back to the hotel.

The following night I decided to visit 4 x4 and left my hotel around 9:30. It wasn't too bad of a drive but I was a little sketched out when I exited my Uber. I went in and up the stairs to the reception desk. Unlike Solarium and Centaurus, you remain in your street clothes. As I entered the bar area, I quickly noticed more of a party atmosphere. Their bar is also relatively small, but this bar was loud and there were customers and girls dancing. Like Solarium, most of the ladies were not appealing to me but there were a couple that I had my eye on. Just before I was about to approach a lady, this hot little spinner entered the bar area in a tight pink little dress. I recall saying Hello, to her and immediately gesturing that I wanted to get a room with her. Had I not been in an area where I was a little uncomfortable and had I not been so damn sore, I would have stayed with this lady for a while or asked her to come to my hotel. Instead, I got an Uber and was out of 4 x4 in a little over an hour. Not being too familiar with Rio and being a gringo alone in this part of the city, I decided to get back to my hotel rather than hang out there at 4 x4 looking for round 2.

I planned on taking a night off from any activities and allow my penis to heal. I had packed my own high quality condoms for this trip, but like an idiot didn't use my own. The small, tight and poor quality condoms that were being used were causing significant discomfort. I went out for dinner and as I was entering the hotel, I noticed a really sexy lady in the lobby with her gay boyfriend. She gave me the look and I went over and said Hello,. I asked her for her WhatsApp and messaged her as I was walking away. We agreed on a number to go up to my room and I went back to the lobby to get her. Security required her to register at the front desk and then we went to my room. This girl was a freak in my bed and I could tell that she wanted to be in control. Being the alpha dog, I quickly made it known that I was going to take control and she was going to be submissive. Now this girl was actually pretty hot even though she had some nasty tattoos, but I focused on her beautiful face and was really able to enjoy her. Funny thing was when she showered she stole my Neutrogena body wash and took it with her. She left my bottle of Versace cologne that was in the bathroom but took the body wash. She left her sunglasses in my bathroom and I gave them to the maid. The next day I saw her WhataApp status from the night before and it appeared that this lovely lady and her gay friend left my hotel and enjoyed a nice dinner at Fogo de Chao with the money she made from me. See guys, the money we spend on these ladies fuels our economy and benefits a lot of other people.

My last night in Rio I decided to head back to Solarium to see if the selection might be better. Unfortunately, it wasn't but the fun-size spinner was there and she looked fantastic. I decided not to wait around and immediately took her to a room. I returned to the bar area after and watched the ladies come and go with their customers. I considered taking the spinner back to the room for round 2 before leaving, but I thought better of it since I had a full day and night planned for Saturday in Sao Paulo.

I have read a lot of reviews on this forum and knew going in that there were other options in Rio than the termas. As a gringo traveling alone that doesn't speak the language, I decided not to take many risks and just hit the termas that everyone has read about. I did the tourist things in Rio and enjoyed the beach, but I was really ready to get back to SP. I crossed Rio off my bucket list of places to visit, but I lost precious time that I could have had in SP with the women that were more my type.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675927]Getting my bags at SDU was quick and easy but I struggled finding Uber because there were no signs. I asked two different airport employees, none of which spoke English, and they pointed me in the same direction. If you ever fly into SDU and want to take an Uber, it's down at what's called the Uber Lounge at the very far end of the airport past the small shopping mall. Yes, just keep walking to the very end![/QUOTE]Actually you can get Uber on that center island (ilha central) that is in front of the check-in building before you get to the shopping mall. I have never even been to that Uber Lounge. When you leave out of the baggage claim building with your stuff, go to the left and walk down in front of the next building and cross over to that median.

Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

I wrote: "Then you can take the metro to centro and take the bus to Solarium, and all the wealthy, upper middle class districts between botafogo and PUC, where you should take English if you stay long enough. ".

You should take Portuguese at a university like PUC (not English). One of the good things about Botafogo (see the map) is a rapid bus to PUC.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675768]See the attached map. This is the most important map in Rio. This is the metro map. This is how most Cariocas get around.

My recommendation about where to stay are:

1. Metro Jardim Oceanico. Search for places as near to Ave de pepe 400 (Perola Negra), or Olegario Maciel 7 (Na Brasa Colombia) as possible. PN is the best terma in Rio IMHO. We had a great night there last week, super talent, super hot negra from Rio, super hot morena from MInas. The talent there goes back and forth with 4 x4. Good rooms, including a BDSM suite. Walk to the metro to go do the centro prive thing. Beach is clean, and is where the girls from PN will come before work. The metro station is new since Bubba wrote his guide in 2013, and it is the driver of economic and social growth.

[URL]https://youtu.be/B2t824qAOlU[/URL]

Above is a good video of Barra..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2675927]I have read a lot of reviews on this forum and knew going in that there were other options in Rio than the termas. As a gringo traveling alone that doesn't speak the language, I decided not to take many risks and just hit the termas that everyone has read about. I crossed Rio off my bucket list of places to visit, but I lost precious time that I could have had in SP ... I am not sure I would recommend the Hilton... Breakfast was terrible there.[/QUOTE]It's risky indeed trying out something else than termas in one of the worlds best mongering capitals. The breakfasts, it's a shame they don't have syrup and bacon to go with the morning pancakes. Just a lot of fruits.

I ended up going to 4 x 4 this Thursday, arrived around 9 pm. Had a nice sauna then put on the robe and went straight to the bar. I was checking the girls and there are so many nice talents there. There were a few small group of gringos, talked to then a bit then I went to session Charlotte (Brazilian / German blonde girl, huge ass and tits) for 30 min. Great blowjob skills, she deepthroated a little, nice tight pussy and ass but her ass was super tight and I wasn't in the mood to prepare it for fucking. Later I ended up going to Mosaico to finish the night and sessioned two brunettes, one if them I already had before, Burguesa (tall, nice round ass, model type) and India (great body gym type girl, rides you like a pro). Sessioned them together, swapped them a lot but unfortunately no bareback action.

Crazy Thursday night LOL.

Got the instagram of 3 girls if anyone wants to contact them. The two girls from Mosaico are drug friendly so anyone who wants to get them a little looser just ask for it and they'll do it. They did c0 k3 off of my cock a couple times and I rammed their pussy like crazy.

Damn, I arrived at Mosaico this Thursday around 1 am but I had no clue if you guys were still there. Really tall black dude white a light blue shirt, I stayed outside with one girl then another one joined us, maybe you saw me. Dunno how I can contact you next time.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675112]Thursday, 19 h, motel Malaga, then vm, mosaico.[/QUOTE]

You went to Abrico beach? Haven't been there in ages, I still talk to a few swinger couples, they are eventually there for some fun, the negative part is that there are a lot of single guys there who don't know how to behave and they end up scaring the girls who eventually want to have sex there and etc.

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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675410]I took a regular, Monique, to a nude beach at her request about a year and a quarter ago. We picked up a white couple for a swing / swap thing at my ap in Barra, and we have been swapping our girls ever since, but it is kind of a closed thing for Brazilian friends, kind of bring a bottle of wine to a wine party. So I can't guarantee anything, but I will meet up with you and other ISGers and go to Mosaico, VM.

Needless to say, you should bring fresh blood tests.

But it is not a thing where I can bring other people, especially a guy, and moreover a gringo.

Again, the single biggest thing is learn Porto, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675768]1. Metro Jardim Oceanico. Search for places as near to Ave de pepe 400 (Perola Negra), or Olegario Maciel 7 (Na Brasa Colombia) as possible. PN is the best terma in Rio IMHO. [/QUOTE]I am no expert on Rio. The one time I was in Rio for girls which was right before COVID, I also thought that Perola Negra was the best therma. I switch over to a Copa hotel for a few days and I found myself making the 30 min Uber ride to the barra and PN for those nights.

9 days in Rio so far and never hit a termas or went downtown. Past couple of nights Uber black has been just a couple of reais more, very nice cars. Every trip I usually find at least 1 real GFE that I connect with, this time I found a real pro, she is giving me the full treatment, I tell her thank you and that she is an excellent hustler and I appreciate it, she tells me she's not lying but she wanted me to shag her friend, you got to love Rio.

I always liked outcall escorts but Barra vip is getting on my nerves, one girl wanted me to send her 200 reais on pix or PayPal, now this is taking paying upfront to a different level, I told her to have a good day. Then another girl I chatted with on Barra, I texted her when she was 15 minutes late, like you coming, she says text me your address which I already did but didn't remind her. She said she needs to see how much to my place so I can send it to her, I said are you serious, I think we are going to forget this one too.

I finally text a girl I met in front of dolce vita one night, 20 year old regular beautiful Brazilian girl, she quoted me great price and never mentioned taxi to me, she came over, beautiful breasts and natural and sex was fantastic. These girls from Barra vip are getting nuts, most of them want you to come to them and if they come to you it's 100 reais more plus uber paid up front.

Today, Vagabundo was still sleeping off 3 pernoites with Anne Amari, who likes to smoke ganja and drink alcohol, and of course, fuck.

Vagabundo paid $800 reais.

Like the Haitian born Anne Amari of the porn world, my callsign Anne Amari is petite, and a good fit, but she has some other qualities which lead Vagabundo to develop her as a asset.

To wit, if you can play the long game, then I think it does make sense to develop these contacts as long term relationships. Maybe get an apt in a lower cost area, etc. An ap in Meier can be had for $650 r. Any who.

OK, Vagabundo is getting messages from ISGers who are coming through Rio again in a few months. Some of these guys, without naming names, live in places like Milwaukee, sit inside and play video games on top flight desk top rigs. So let me give you some advice. Learn Portuguese. Even if all you do is sit in front of a screen with video games, you can watch Netflix with Porto language and English subtitles, and work up to Porto subtitles. In this great big world of 8 billion souls, there are people who have immigrated and who have learned new languages in a short time with just Netflix.

OK, so Vagabundo went to Centro today at 11 h20 on the luxury bus from the condo. He arrived at 12 h30 at Cinelandia Starbucks. JimmyBoy, an all time great wingman, had said he would do Zanetti grill at 14 h30, as he is staying in Centro. JimmyBOy did meet up with Vagabundo at Cinelandia Starbucks (that metro map!

We patrolled over to TDM33. JB was trying to unfuck his cell pone at the Claro or Tim store, but Vagabundo just gave him a SIM for $10 r which solved the whole problem.

At a drugstore near U24, Vagabundo stocked up on generic cialis. 48 pills of 20 MG for like 52 r. The drug store is across the street from U24, and also across the VLT tracks.

JB is good to patrol with as he knows porto.

We hit a few casas near Darkroom, where Vagabundo found Noemie Bilas, and did a half hour for 80 r, and gave her a tip. Good BBFSCIP pop. Noemie Bilas wanted to do pernoite, but VB deferred to next week. Noemie Bilas is a Chocolateluvr pick from some centro patrols, and there was another super hot negra at the same spot.

VB and JB ate at Zanetti, which is super cheap and good, with fresh tuna if you get there early, for example. JB went up to Stellas and got the gossip that one of the legends is now married. Good for her.

Up at Darkroom, we ran into Soberhands and TBoy. We checked out the team at Darkroom, and the usual suspects were there, hot 18 yo negra rebecca, Maya, etc. But we didn't session, Vagabundo having just sessioned, and JB having arrived yesterday.

The lads wanted to do TDM33, so we did.

We started at 3206. No more stephanie. Emily, as always looks good.

Then we went down to 2414, where there are always good new, especially negra, girls. TBoy picked a new 18 yo.

Then we went down to 2106, just 3 of us now. A new morena with a super nice bunda -- a morena clara of 25 years -- pumped Vagabundo's nads enough to inspire a 20 minute for 50 reais session.

By the way, for any monger new to Rio, even if only for 3 days, go and get laid in a centro prive during the day BEFORE going to a terma so your dick gets anchored at a lower cost per fuck. Go to MassagemTijuca and pick Jessica, or Joyce, if you want to have a girl as good as any you will find in a terma.

So Vagabundo had a nice session, good BBBJ, good 69, and then blew a load thinking of some Monica Mattos porn -- in fact, I think I will designate her Monica mattos 2.

So then we went down to the tic toc juice stand at the first floor.

Vagabundo having blown two loads into hot young brazilian women, called it a day, and headed back to Barra. Fucking young Brazilian girls never gets old. Now that Covid is over (masks are off), you have no excuse. Come to Rio.

Been to 4 x 4 last two nights and the talent was no where near as good as it was the first two times, didn't see any girls that I had to take that had the combination of looks and looking like they had a good attitude.

4 x 4 reminds me of I Bar in Pattaya, where the best looking girls (out of the Centro Termas) go there but a lot of the women are stuck up and a lot of the men that go there are arrogant d1 cks.

Ended up in Whiskeria 65 which I think is more like 808, again in Pattaya, where the girls aren't as good looking but the atmosphere is better and the girls look like they are enjoying themselves more which usually results in better service.

Took a white skinned girl with dark hair who was really pretty and a good performer. Can't remember her name though sorry.

Last night tonight, so unfortunately have to go home tomorrow.

Really enjoyed Brazil and if I can learn some Portuguese I'll definitely return.

I definitely think Rio is miles better than Medellin though in pretty much everyway.

Thanks to all the BMs I've met who have shown me around and been great company.

I apologize that my reports are rubbish and don't include details of the sessions but I'm not much of a writer unlike some on here.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2676011]JB went up to Stellas and got the gossip that one of the legends is now married. Good for her.[/QUOTE]I guess you're talking about Kelly. I got disappointed when one of the Stellas girl told me she quit and started to drive Uber. That was even sadder news that Kelly got married, from a monger point of view. The BJ-queen of Rio. Her threeholes sessions with a BBBJCIM sessions for 50 reais were unbeatable.

Any recommendations for decent "massage" places in the Copacabana area?

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2675976]I went to session Charlotte (Brazilian / German blonde girl, huge ass and tits) for 30 min. Great blowjob skills, she deep-throated a little, nice tight pussy and ass but her ass was super tight and I wasn't in the mood to prepare it for fucking.[/QUOTE]I wondered if and when she would return to 4 X 4. She was working there before the fire, then started doing a lot of stuff online to survive, including starting OnlyFans and Instagram accounts. As of late, you could still find her advertising here too: [URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/.[/URL]. And hell yeah that "gaucha" booty hole of hers is tight! But that didn't stop The Cane from fucking her up the butt! I took my time and even extended the session to make sure I penetrated into her Aryan-Brazilian anus properly LOL! Here's the write-up I did (also attached some pics, including one taken inside of the 4 X 4 cabina):

[B]Cornholing Good Charlotte[/B]

Quatro por Quatro (4 X 4) has traditionally been my favorite termas in Rio. I always knew that the place would provide some of my top memorable moments from any particular trip, so I always made sure to plan for at least two visits to 4 X 4 per trip. You could always count on the place getting packed (I had been in there at times when people were standing shoulder to shoulder) with plenty of really pretty 8's and 9's, plus the occasional 10. And as has been mentioned, a number of the hot 4 X 4 girls were shooting porn. But even if they weren't, I'll say it again just one more time. They should have been LOL! I'm talking some really smoking hot girls who would leave you with sexual memories to last a lifetime.

I returned now to this famous place with trepidation after all that I had been reading on the internet. That even 4 X 4 is no more. Could it really be true? Well, if it is, then maybe it's time to ease up on going to Rio for awhile. So, I catch a cab to take me downtown to Rua Buenos Aires where the club is located. And what would my posts of late be without another "dumb taxi driver" story! Right? So the cabbie says he knows where it is. Everything is going along fine, until his ass misses the turn! That might not have been so bad in ordinary traffic, but the traffic wasn't ordinary. He misses the turn and has to go around, and we run smack dab into a huge, huge, huge traffic jam! Big buses, cars, motorbikes. Everything. We're sitting there and we're stuck in the middle of it all, and I'm starting to get steamed! While I'm sitting here fucking with this guy, all of the prettiest snatch in the club is most certainly being snatched up! Finally, I tell the taxi driver that I'm going to get out and walk the rest of the way. He's like don't worry, I will stop the meter at $R40. I won't charge you more than that. Well, that was missing the point for me. No way in hell was I going to sit there in that jam that was probably going to take at least 30 minutes for us to pass through. I paid the $R40, got out and waked the remainder of the way. Grrrrrr!

OK, so I get in there and get changed. Step into the boite around 7:30 pm on a Tuesday, and the crowd size isn't that bad. I order a couple of drinks and have a seat. Plenty of eyes are on me, and I'm not liking what I'm seeing as I peer back! Oh man, I'm afraid it's appearing to be true! The talent pool just isn't living up to past standards. It was hard to say how many girls were there at that time. I don't know. Maybe 30+ at least, and I didn't see anybody at first I found attractive! Oh man! Not 4 X 4 too! Not my 4 X 4! Well there was one. A dark-haired blonde, but she was taken (told you any of the good snatch would be taken). I decided to take a harder look and try to be "fair". Walk around and really try to be a fair judge. Was it just me or what? I concluded no, it was not "just me". I've always had high standards. At least according to me hahaha! And, too many of these girls just aren't pretty! They're not "banging hot" like what I used to see in Quatro. Obviously not every girl was like that, but I would see so many hot ones that I knew I could not possibly hump them all during one trip. If somebody you liked was taken, no problem as there were several more ready and waiting for a monger!

I took a hard look, and according to my tastes, I would say that most of the girls I was seeing were around a 7, but with lots of 6's thrown in. And to be fair, I saw a handful of 8's. But, it was like if the body was right, then the face was wrong. Or vice versa. Or both! I really wasn't seeing anybody I wanted to do at all, and I feared that history was about to be made. The Cane was going to go to Quatro por Quatro, and leave without fucking anybody! What a sad passing of events that was going to be. The thrill is gone! Even at Quatro por Quatro! It was now 9 pm, and the talent wasn't getting any better. I had been approached by a few fuglies. I did my best to get rid of them, including lying if I had to. One fugly said she was from Venezuela and spoke Spanish. She asked me if I spoke it, and I said no hahaha! Also got some looks and smiles from 7's, but not quite what I was looking for optics-wise. You can always hold out hope that somebody, somehow or some way, will show up a little later in the night to save the evening. I was not optimistic though. I told myself I would have another drink, and that if things didn't seem to be picking up by 10 pm, then I'm going to leave. Defeated. But then my brothers, that's when she walked in. "Good Charlotte".

This tute immediately stood out from all of the others. Long, light blonde hair. Pale, very white skin. Super pink nipples on her nice sized titties. And a Brazilian "donk" like you would not believe! No branca has any business wielding around a caboose like that! Whew! Whoever she was, this one was looking like what I had sought after at Solarium over the previous weekend for having anal sex, but did not find. The issue was her face. I wasn't sure if I liked it enough to give her a passing mark for "face control". She was moving around in the boate. I moved around to try to size up the quality of her face. I knew she had the body, but what about that face? After some close up inspection of her face, I gave the big booty branca an overall rating of 7 (only her face stopped her from getting an 8). But a 7 was a good enough overall score to pass, and make The Cane want to get up into that big, plump ass!

I invited the girl to sit next to me, and she introduced herself as Charlotte. We hit it off immediately! Charlotte spoke not only Portuguese, but also English, Spanish, and German. So no problems communicating at all. Speaking of German, she said that her father was German and her mother Brazilian, and that explained her looks. I said yeah, all of you looks German, except for your Brazilian bum bum! Charlotte laughed and acknowledged. She told me that she had lots of family on her German side living in metro Frankfurt, Germany, and that she was born in the south of Brazil. Well I'll be damned! Frankfurt! If I can't be in Frankfurt at a German FKK, then how about bring the German FKK to me in Brazil LOL! And why not? The action in Brazil, at least in Rio, is kind of tanking right now if you ask me. Those fucking bullshit Olympics started this whole entire decline! And its been steady ever since!

I ended up going with Charlotte for a 1 1/2 hour session. It was supposed to be for a hour, but the head of my dong had just managed to penetrate into her tight, snow bunny anus just as the phone rang calling time on the session! No way was I about to let her butt hole escape from that room for the night! Not yet! Not going to happen! But, let me back up for a minute. Charlotte was down for BBBJ / CIM. Her technique was nice, and she tried very hard, but I couldn't quite get there to bust in her mouth. After some kissing and sucking, we got into some cowgirl fucking. Charlotte's pussy was moist and tight, and that got me to the first nut. While fucking, I told her how I only fuck the best, and that her blonde, German pussy was the best hahaha! So, then some pillow talk, and an OK massage. I let the massage run a bit long since it felt good. Then time for anal penetration! Charlotte got on all fours, and man was her dark pink booty hole tight! I had to take my time working the head of my into her chute. And like I said, just about the time I got into her butt hole good, the fucking phone rang (my fault as the long massage contributed to this)!

No problem, we got another half hour so I could finish the deed. My dick stayed hard while Charlotte left the room to say that we wanted more time. I just kept thinking about how I had the head of my boner inside of that pretty branca's arsehole, and how I was going to enjoy her anus some more when she returned. This time though, I had Charlotte lay on her back so that we could do missionary anal. Still had some trouble getting into her anal channel, until she used a pillow to lift her hips up, then I was in! I asked Charlotte did she like that dick in her ass? I told her that I like to fuck pretty, blonde brancas just like her in the ass the most, and that her "culito" was good. "Good Charlotte" LOL! I buggered Charlotte deep, looking directly into her eyes while I was doing it, and talking junk about cornholing only the prettiest girls. That only the prettiest ones will do for anal sex with The Cane. Charlotte was looking right back at me and starting to moan and cry out as I dicked her up her butt hole harder, and deeper, and faster. Starting to ride her rough! Riding roughshod "gaucho-style" along her pretty, gaucha anal tract! The thing is, when I get turned on from anal sex, it actually becomes harder and harder for me to cum! I just stay hard and feel like I could keep buggering the girl I'm with all night long! My dick was staying hard, and at no time did I feel like I was getting close to a "nut". But alas, all things eventually must come to an end. I was starting to get tired. I continued to butt fuck Charlotte in anal missionary-style until I got tired enough that I had to stop, leaving my dick in her anus to slowly grow soft, and gently slip out of her tight pooty pocket.

More pillow talk. The exchanging of contact information. Charlotte says she plans to go see family in Frankfurt early next year. She makes me promise to write to her. We get cleaned up. Kisses. Charlotte says she's done for the night and going back to her place. Me too. Goodnight, my Good Charlotte. Thanks for saving this night. Maybe the thrill hasn't completely gone away yet. Maybe it's more like going going! And then gone (maybe)? Keep hope alive!

Field Marshall Soberhands, Hail and Farewell!

It's been a pleasure to hand out and monger in Rio!

Keep writing! You underestimate your ability to describe important details.

In particular, it would be great to hear more from you on the prives.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2676030]Thanks to all the BMs I've met who have shown me around and been great company.

I apologize that my reports are rubbish and don't include details of the sessions but I'm not much of a writer unlike some on here.[/QUOTE]

I think what you are describing is a market that is going to inflate with the perceived or real post Covid surge of sex tourists.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2676000]9 days in Rio so far and never hit a termas or went downtown. Past couple of nights Uber black has been just a couple of reais more, very nice cars. Every trip I usually find at least 1 real GFE that I connect with, this time I found a real pro, she is giving me the full treatment, I tell her thank you and that she is an excellent hustler and I appreciate it, she tells me she's not lying but she wanted me to shag her friend, you got to love Rio.

I always liked outcall escorts but Barra vip is getting on my nerves, one girl wanted me to send her 200 reais on pix or PayPal, now this is taking paying upfront to a different level, I told her to have a good day. Then another girl I chatted with on Barra, I texted her when she was 15 minutes late, like you coming, she says text me your address which I already did but didn't remind her. She said she needs to see how much to my place so I can send it to her, I said are you serious, I think we are going to forget this one too..[/QUOTE]

Are there any "massage" places in the Copacabana area that provide decent service? (I know the general consensus is to go to Centro, but I was wondering if I there was a place nearby I could pop by quickly since I'm traveling with family and will only be able to get away without them for short period of time.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2675968]I wrote: "Then you can take the metro to centro and take the bus to Solarium, and all the wealthy, upper middle class districts between botafogo and PUC, where you should take English if you stay long enough. ".

You should take Portuguese at a university like PUC (not English). One of the good things about Botafogo (see the map) is a rapid bus to PUC.[/QUOTE]I won't be needing Portuguese classes, because I'm Portuguese. Maybe I can be usefull as translator in my weeks overthere, with you guys. And a funny thing, Portuguese can imitate Brazilian accent.

What about that barra flat hotel, with the GPS and the pool? In av the Americas? Is it worth a visit to the pool? Not for sleeping.

Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2675977]Damn, I arrived at Mosaico this Thursday around 1 am but I had no clue if you guys were still there. Really tall black dude white a light blue shirt, I stayed outside with one girl then another one joined us, maybe you saw me. Dunno how I can contact you next time.[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a PM about a WhatsApp group in Rio but you apparently cannot receive any.

[QUOTE=Neil2084;2676234]Are there any "massage" places in the Copacabana area that provide decent service?[/QUOTE]You need to be more specific on what you mean by service. No need to talk in code here. Are you looking for a massage place or a horrhouse?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2676383]You need to be more specific on what you mean by service. No need to talk in code here. Are you looking for a massage place or a horrhouse?[/QUOTE]LOL. Yes, I'm looking for a horrhouse.

Well said. Exactly right.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2675974]It's risky indeed trying out something else than termas in one of the worlds best mongering capitals. The breakfasts, it's a shame they don't have syrup and bacon to go with the morning pancakes. Just a lot of fruits.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Kelly.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2676139]I guess you're talking about Kelly. I got disappointed when one of the Stellas girl told me she quit and started to drive Uber. That was even sadder news that Kelly got married, from a monger point of view. The BJ-queen of Rio. Her threeholes sessions with a BBBJCIM sessions for 50 reais were unbeatable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neil2084;2676234]Are there any "massage" places in the Copacabana area that provide decent service? (I know the general consensus is to go to Centro, but I was wondering if I there was a place nearby I could pop by quickly since I'm traveling with family and will only be able to get away without them for short period of time.[/QUOTE]COPA MASSAGENS IN RIO, Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 769 - COB 1201, Copacabana.

EDEN SPA, Av. And. S. Copacabana 583 - sala 401, Copacabana.

DELIRIO ORIENTAL, are. Hilário de Gouveia, 66 - sala 201, Copacabana.

COPA 583, Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 - Sobreloja, Copacabana (may be closed).

COPA SPA, are. Siqueira Campos, 43 - sala 825, Copacabana (may be closed).

Was in Centro so went to VM to kill some time before heading back to my hotel in Lapa. Arrived about 9 PM. The usual horror show. Not one that I would fuck. Counted 50 girls in the horseshoe. All but 3-4 were chubby to obese, dark-skinned, not pretty. The 3-4 were slim but not very pretty. Casa 52 was pretty crowded, maybe 10-12 girls, but also none I would fuck. Too early for Mosaico, so left.

On my way to my hotel, I stopped in for a free look in Up House. Dead. 4 girls, 2 guys. Girls were nothing special. No point in staying, so I left.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2675974]It's risky indeed trying out something else than termas in one of the worlds best mongering capitals. The breakfasts, it's a shame they don't have syrup and bacon to go with the morning pancakes. Just a lot of fruits.[/QUOTE]We all know that we are mongering in a wrong way, if we don't do it in the same way as you do it I. E. looking for that 50 reais diamond in the rough in an old office building, where you have to be careful what you touch or you might get a nasty rash to take back home, but this is something new, even from you, telling us that our breakfast preferences are all wrong.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2676628]... looking for that 50 reais diamond in the rough in an old office building...[/QUOTE]50 reais isn't enough. Probably too many years have passed since your last visit. Things change. BTW, Help has closed.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2676000]Then another girl I chatted with on Barra, I texted her when she was 15 minutes late, like you coming, she says text me your address which I already did but didn't remind her. She said she needs to see how much to my place so I can send it to her, I said are you serious, I think we are going to forget this one too.

.[/QUOTE]Thats one of the main things I hate with freelancers in 2022! I remember when they would ride the bus for 2 hours to see a client in Rio at their expense, now they all want an Uber to and from your spot.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2676640]50 reais isn't enough. Probably too many years have passed since your last visit. Things change. BTW, Help has closed.[/QUOTE]I thought 50 reais was your limit. You guys really should get over Help. I know you left your youth there, but still. It's long gone.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2676000]I always liked outcall escorts but Barra vip is getting on my nerves, one girl wanted me to send her 200 reais on pix or PayPal, now this is taking paying upfront to a different level, I told her to have a good day.[/QUOTE]It's getting more and more common in SP. They even have PayPal just for gringos. Brazilians have pix.

What about that barra flat hotel, with the GPS and the pool? In av the Americas? Is it worth a visit to the pool? Not for sleeping.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2676806]What about that barra flat hotel, with the GPS and the pool? In av the Americas? Is it worth a visit to the pool? Not for sleeping.[/QUOTE]Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2676792]It's getting more and more common in SP. They even have PayPal just for gringos. Brazilians have pix.[/QUOTE]Today is Sunday so I called another Barra vip girl, good price, no mention of taxi or paying ahead. She arrived in 20 minutes with a beer in her hand and so did I. She goes out on my balcony and in daylight takes off all her clothes and gives me a BBBJ. Then she starts screwing me while I'm in a chair, no mention of condom at all but I did put one on. Then we moved to the bedroom and finished, she was a good one, she looked better in the pictures, maybe too many beers since she took them but still very nice and plenty of fun.

Saturday night I went to dolce vita again, girls flow in and out I guess between the 2 or 3 other clubs in the neighborhood in walking distance. When I was walking in these 2 were leaving and 1 stopped me but I just got there I don't like to make my choice right away. I like to look around and make my own pick. Eventually I went over to a petite girl, she had Japanese in her blood from past ancestry, she was very sweet and calm, I took her up she was pretty good if you like them tiny, slim, small tit types.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2676806]What about that barra flat hotel, with the GPS and the pool? In av the Americas? Is it worth a visit to the pool? Not for sleeping.[/QUOTE]I meant this question for vagabundo.

Taxi.

I completely agree!

I keep certain girls like Anne Amari and Nina Deponca in at least a monthly rotation just because they will ride that bus or metro for 2 hours and just show up at my place.

I actually make a point of riding that bus or metro back with them to their 'hood sometimes. The cost of living in the areas they live is so much lower that you see how one client who pays 800 r for 3 pernoites can basically make their whole week, and that the pricing in termas is ridiculous. Do you really want to be paying for the salary and benefits of the English speaking b who translates for you at the front desk? In some termas, I specifically never session just because my answer is no.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2676774]Thats one of the main things I hate with freelancers in 2022! I remember when they would ride the bus for 2 hours to see a client in Rio at their expense, now they all want an Uber to and from your spot.[/QUOTE]

Please PM Jimmyboy see below.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2676880]I meant this question for vagabundo.[/QUOTE]

So Zawaadi is coming over for a night of anal fucking with a 20 year old.

For those of you who have been watching Brazil from a computer screen for years, masks are off, the pandemic is pretty much over. Come get some real sex to write about.

So maybe some of you follow the SP thread. I was posting regularly there over the last 10 days or so about my experiences. Will try and do the same for Rio.

So I landed at the local airport and found no trouble finding the Uber and got to my hotel. I am on Copacabana with a suite in one of the hotels that directly looks out to the beach. Damn nice view.

While this room ain't close to the Pullman Suite in SP' it'll do. The food here is already far better than that hotel!

So I contacted the girl whose number I was given in SP. She arrives, she's a cute thin young thing at first glance. Studying to be a lawyer. Speaks no English whatsoever which is a bummer.

She does turn out to be a monster in bed. Kissed me till I had to get her off of me and then sucked till I couldn't take it anymore and literally had to hold her face and pull it off my dick.

She then rides me where she seems to have cum at least twice, then doggy to finish. We repeat two more times. She leaves by 8 pm.

Overall I am happy with her, just the no speaking English part kind of bothers me. She is very confident in her posture and in the way she talks.

Now after this then for my first time in Rio, I just had to go to the world famous Centaurus.

So off I go. Lady speaks English at the counter and explains everything well. A girl comes down to the locker and helps me change into the robe.

They have a massage area downstairs with sauna and other stuff.

I head upstairs and one of the girls told me they have recently redone the smoking lounge and it really has been done up well. About the only thing here which was nice.

The main area where the girls hangout was horrendous. So were the girls! There were maybe 20 in there and there was maybe 1 girl I could've fucked if I were a little drunk I think.

I hang around for a little while and just generally chatted girls up in hopes of someone walking in but no luck. There were 3 girls in there that spoke pretty decent English, one of them I had a 20 minute chat with on the topic of religion!. She was quite intelligent.

So after hanging around for a while I just got tired and annoyed so I left the place.

There you have it. My first experience in a Rio Terma. Will try and go to 4 x4 one of these days.

I have a trip to Cristo Redentor and Sugar Loaf mountain planned with the other girl that come to my hotel. I asked her to bring a friend of hers with her that speaks English so It'll be easier to communicate. Let's see what she shows up with.

Random. While I was walking through the lobby of my hotel towards the elevators; two absolutely smoking hot girls come out of it (like holy shit girl, take my money hot) , while passing them I smelt condoms. I really was tempted to talk to them, but the lobby was empty with 2 clerks at the counter staring at me so I decided against it.

Hey Andresingle,

Do you have a WhatsApp or another way to contact you? I just got here for a short visit and down to explore if your still here.

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2675976]I ended up going to 4 x 4 this Thursday, arrived around 9 pm. Had a nice sauna then put on the robe and went straight to the bar. I was checking the girls and there are so many nice talents there. There were a few small group of gringos, talked to then a bit then I went to session Charlotte (Brazilian / German blonde girl, huge ass and tits) for 30 min. Great blowjob skills, she deepthroated a little, nice tight pussy and ass but her ass was super tight and I wasn't in the mood to prepare it for fucking. Later I ended up going to Mosaico to finish the night and sessioned two brunettes, one if them I already had before, Burguesa (tall, nice round ass, model type) and India (great body gym type girl, rides you like a pro). Sessioned them together, swapped them a lot but unfortunately no bareback action.

Crazy Thursday night LOL..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AndreSingle;2675977]Damn, I arrived at Mosaico this Thursday around 1 am but I had no clue if you guys were still there. Really tall black dude white a light blue shirt, I stayed outside with one girl then another one joined us, maybe you saw me. Dunno how I can contact you next time.[/QUOTE]

Zawaadi (previously Ana Zawaadi Foxxx) Pernoite $400 r ($80 USD); Friday sex food tour 12 h30 Starbucks.

We got in our 4 pops, with two this morning, both BBFSCIP. Shot a nice load in her 20 year old negra as wesly snipes pussy watching the not too hardcore Everything butt scene with Ana foxxx, kira noir, and a Latina on [URL]kink.com[/URL] on the HDTV, and a Tommy Pistol / Ana Foxxx scene on the 13 inch Macbook Air with M1 chip screen, while listening to Maria Gadu on spotify or music. [URL]google.com[/URL], properly elevated to a few joints, and after hygiene, IE, brushing my nasty fangs, and showering.

Vagabundo has become a raging fan of Spotify in reaction to the inane attacks on Joe Rogan, and on spotify, Vagabundo recommends to you the Brazilian club music from the search "Pandora" or "Felipe Ret" (to smoke and fuck, or in Portoguese, Fumar Fuder) or "Maria Gadu" (to chill and fuck and smoke). By smoke, of course, Vagabundo means ganja.

OK, there is a demand for a new guy sex food tour, so here it is. Friday at 12 h30 at Cinelandia Starbucks, Vagabundo will do his best sex / food tour of Rio. We will use the metro. First, we will go to Metro Sao Cristavao by metro, and from there walk to Massagem Tijuca, and then VM / Mosaico; next, Metro Uruguiana, and walk to Darkroom, 116, and even tier 1 termas so you know where they are, and cais do oriente; then Metro Carioca for TDM33 (the trick with the elevators is to go to floor 22 to get a elevator down, BTW); then to Metro Jardim Oceanico for Perola Negra / prives at Metro Jardim Oceanico, the de facto high end street location of BarraVIPS girls, like one of my on again, and off again, mini relationships, and Na Brasa Colombia. RSVP with Senor Jimmyboy, Nounce, MichaelSamuel, or Internash to be added to the whatsapp group.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2677169]So Zawaadi is coming over for a night of anal fucking with a 20 year old.

For those of you who have been watching Brazil from a computer screen for years, masks are off, the pandemic is pretty much over. Come get some real sex to write about.[/QUOTE]

So Anne arrives. For the first of? Pernoites. We are cooking. Every Tuesday, there is a street market (feira or fair-a). Today, Vagabundo went down and bought fresh fish and vegetables and fruit. Anne especially likes the camerao (shrimp), which Vagabundo especially likes since she cooks them!

Vagabundo makes Salmon Vagabundo, which is salmon filet in between lemons, salted with special salt for seafood, and some olive oil, in aluminum foil, and can be thrown on the barbi along with shrimp.

All Brazilian women can cook (shrimp), clean, and of course fuck.

So I call the girl from the day before and well she isn't training to be a lawyer; she is one! No wonder she's got a lot of charisma and confidence. I like taming that beast though. She isn't snarky or vicious, and she has a good attitude and laughs a lot.

She says she will come after 3 pm as she has hearings to attend all morning and afternoon. We spend 6 hours in the hotel room fucking around. Great performance, no complaints. The live google translate feature does help but its nothing close to the real thing.

I send her off at night and head to 4 x4.

Now maybe because I just came back from spending 10 days in SP and going to Scandallo 4 times, but my god the girls here are ugly. I do understand it's an unfair comparison. I just wanted to experience the place, didn't take anyone and was out of there in 1 hour.

There was a girl that I really thought was on some kind of drugs, she was just humming around the place with half open eyes and really bad dark circles. Stayed way clear of that one.

The lady at the counter again spoke excellent English and was so disappointed when I was leaving haha.

There was this mulatta there that stood in front of me and shouted "Do you like pussy" with bad breath too boot. That was my cue to leave.

Also I could swear I saw a father son duo in the place checking out the girls.

On the way downstairs, my phone mysteriously showed no service. I was like this could be the worst possible time for this to happen. I asked the front door man (who also spoke surprisingly good english) about a taxi that was standing outside and whether it was safe. He said yes and it was vetted by the house.

So in I go and what a ride man. This guy was doing 120 kmph and got me back in no time. Dangerous but kinda fun. 47 BRL was the cost back to copa.

Tomorrow I am taking the lawyer girl up to sugar loaf mountain and I am really thinking of doing a helicopter tour of Rio.

Will report again.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2677656]So I call the girl from the day before and well she isn't training to be a lawyer; she is one! No wonder she's got a lot of charisma and confidence. I like taming that beast though. She isn't snarky or vicious, and she has a good attitude and laughs a lot.

She says she will come after 3 pm as she has hearings to attend all morning and afternoon. We spend 6 hours in the hotel room fucking around. Great performance, no complaints. The live google translate feature does help but its nothing close to the real thing.

I send her off at night and head to 4 x4.

Now maybe because I just came back from spending 10 days in SP and going to Scandallo 4 times, but my god the girls here are ugly. I do understand it's an unfair comparison. I just wanted to experience the place, didn't take anyone and was out of there in 1 hour..[/QUOTE]I may have to read your earlier post but how did you meet this lawyer girl.

And spot on. After Scandello, 4 X 4 looks ugly. Haha. However Rio really excels on termas experience and beach / touristy experience. I also liked VM exploration during my short stay in Rio.

My fantasy at Rio was to find some street action around beach area in Rio. May be I can post that as a question if other folks have some insights and I can fulfill that during my next trip (soon).

Does such thing exist? Finding some street action around beach area in Rio. This was my unfinished fantasy from my last Rio trip in February. Any insights to this. I am planning my next trip already.

I'm going to post this in the other areas of the Brazil forum but since this is in Rio figure it will apply here as well. Rio isn't just RJ.

So I planned a last minute trip to rio to celebrate my muse's birthday and valentine's day. 9 days in total but 6 with her exclusively. I'm a romantic at heart so wanted to make up my own romance novel instead of just reading them. I read up alot about Arraial do Cabo, Cabo Frio and Buzios so wanted to whisk us away from the busy streets of rio and off to a beach town when she arrived.

I had 3 days alone in RJ but wasn't really interested in mongering as my initial plan was just to be with her for the entire 9 days but she got caught up with family stuff. So I just walked around town to see the action. I stayed in a hostel to save a few bucks and won't do it again. I'm fairly young, most likely half the age of the average poster's age on the forum. I've been to many hostels around the world but I guess due to the pandemic it wasn't the best idea. I like meeting new people but didn't really have the chance to talk or interact with anyone so kinda wasted. At the end I just wanted my own shower and a good AC.

So before Harley came to RIO I decided to just do some lite hobbying, see what's out there.

I went to RJ Massagem in barra. I got a dupla nuru massage. 700 BRL for 1 hour with cash. 900 with credit card. Not a bad session but you just get a happy ending. Always wanted to try but not worth the price. Good experience but if you do it just get one girl it's half the cost. They also have mixed massage for like 230 BRL so that could be nice.

I went to 4 x4 at night and met a contact I met back in January. She didn't recognize since I grew out my hair but she was happy to see me and we sessioned for 30 mins. I remember why I liked her alot. She used to work at solarium but 4 x4 has more clients but she does agree solarium has nicer rooms. Was like 350 BRL. We ended up leaving at closing time which was at 2 am and got a bite to eat at stalos in copacabana. We planned to see each other again but never got to. Really nice girl, doesn't drink or smoke, no tattoos and works out alot. Very cute but funny enough it was her birthday weekend so she was too busy.

Next day I went to solarium and there were some girls I was looking at but nothing that wowed me. Solarium is like 600 BRL+ after everything is said and done so didn't want to settle. Went to Casablanca and tried my luck. Super small and didn't really see anyone that I liked alot. One girl did stand out so I decided to go with her since she did a strip show and her moves were great. I didn't have a place so I decided to use the backroom. Big mistake. The room back there is super small and I'm not a big guy. The bed is like a 5 ft narrow COT. It's the worst size and placement I ever seen. It really keeps you from getting into a good position. There's also no showers for the girls to clean up afterwards so they just use alcohol gel to wipe themselves down. Its so bad. If you do like a girl take her out and get a love motel or take her to your place and make sure she showers. Was a decent session but was off put by the whole layout. Entrance is 100 BRL + 500 BRL for the girl and 100 BRL for the room. Not worth it and I should have left but I took a chance as I wanted to see that backroom and I can tell you it's the worst. Don't do it.

Last day I booked a Hike up Gavela. Went with an Airbnb Group. Was a nice hike! Such a great view! Bring sunscreen as I got burnt badly. Bring water too. Hike up was like 3 hours but it took longer because our group was big and we had to wait on people. We started at 8 am and we didn't get back down until 5 pm. The hike isn't that bad TBH. You could go solo. Some parts are steep but as long as you have a decent pair of shoes with traction you can slowly go up and down with ease. I went with some crocs and had no issues. Highly recommend you do a hike.

Was exhausted after that whole ordeal so did some laundry.

Are. Antônio Viêira, 18 - Leme, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22010-100, Brazil this place is great as you just pay 20 BRL and you put your clothes and don't have to buy detergent. It comes with the wash automatically. Dryer is another 20.

Bought some drinks and supplies for my trip the next day with harley.

To summarize.

RIO isn't really the best place to go for a quick trip to hobby IMO. I landed on Friday and 4 x4 is close on Saturdays and Sundays so that limits you. Granted I wasn't bouncing around nor was I really trying to score but the fact I couldn't really find much even with my prior experiences and knowledge really says something. Rio is really a roll of the dice as you can find some good girls but your timing has to be on point. Granted I would say I am pretty picky as I like more brancas, loiras and ruvias (italian / german brazilians) but as others have stated most of the good girls have been going to SP for more money so that definitely contributes. As someone from Miami, latinas with straight black hair and brown eyes don't do it for me so rules out alot of girls already unless they are extremely gifted. My standards are really high especially since I have to fly 9 hrs to get to Brazil and do all the hassle of flying these days and possibly getting stuck with covid. There were some 6's and 7's I saw but for all the work I was putting in, I was only going for 9's. Rio has a hard time with that. You really have to research and travel around a bit to find a girl you like and I'm not really trying to hop from one small dingy venue to another with cum on the hand rails on my vacation. Not my type of fun.

SP on the other hand has tons of nice boates with many girls that will satisfy any guy's complex palate. Downside is that it gets boring after 4 days. Can't do anything but eat and shop. It's like a cheap but boring NYC. RIO is like a more fun and cheaper MIAMI.

Rio is also good to bring a SP girl to have fun with and enjoy the city. They love it and it's a quick flight. Even SP girls agree SP is boring as hell compared to RJ and they'll treat you like a king if you take them there. It's a fun vacation / getaway weekend spot.

If I had to do it all over again I would have gone to SP for those 3 days and came to RJ for the remaining 6. I've done most things in RIO and there was some new talent that popped up in SP that I would have liked to try. Oh well.

So that's my two cents and on to the real story.

THE TRIP.

So I wake up the next day and lo and behold she misses her flight to Rio. After going back and forth she finds a bus to get to Rio from SP but the only one available is a 9 pm one so she won't make it until the next day at 3 am. Last minute flights to RJ from SP was like 400 USD. For a one way. Stupid prices. I honeslty don't understand these brazilian airline flights. I can literally book a flight from MIA to NYC for $30 to $80 tomorrow and that's a 3 HR flight but a 1 hour from SP to RJ is like $400 to 500 USD? GOL, Azul and LATAM need to get their heads on straight.

Anyways, I'm pretty pissed because we planned this trip two weeks ahead of time so she knew not to miss this flight. I had talked to an uber driver with my more advanced porto to drive us to arraial so had to tell him to go back home. I also booked a nice AirBNB in arraial so lost one night. I also booked a nice private boat ride with BBQ on board that couldn't be rescheduled. So I lost a bunch of reservations that day. It was also valentine's day and I was without my girl. Wasn't really a great day to say the least. I just slept in the entire day and walked the beach at night to contemplate my luck.

There's a great brazilian song just about this: Cartola. Preciso Me Encontrar.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUjOfsoBhMY[/URL]

I had traveled so far and done so much to try to create the best day ever and it fell through my hands like the water rushing away back to the ocean. Unrealized streams of wishes going back to the sea of broken dreams.

She arrives the next day early at 3 am and we have to wait for our driver to come at 8 am. I was up walking around copa beach until 1 am so had a huge headache. She claims I was out partying and fucking other girls and I just ignore her. So we sat for 5 hours just waiting in the hostel lobby. We talk a bit and turns out she got into a fight with a guy she was seeing back home. They call it a Ficante which is like a FWB type of deal. He found out she was going to be in rio with me for a week and freaked out. Calls her every name in the book and goes to her place afterwards and breaks a few things. Lots of drama ensued and so she had deal with that and missed her flight. The problems with some of these girls are too much sometimes.

Our driver comes up and we hop in for the 3 HR drive to Arrial. I loosen up a bit and just try to enjoy this trip again. I think taking a uber trip is worth the extra cost (450 brl to 240 BRL bus ride) since our driver was cool to stop and let us shop before we left and get some food and take pictures on the way and he let us smoke and play our music. Made the long ride more pleasant.

We get to our AIRBNB and it's super nice! It's like a MIAMI Vice City style cocaine drug dealer's beach house. Nice balcony view of the beach with our own pool overlooking the city. Super nice for $150 a night. Apparently they are called pousadas, which is like a INN but a bit more luxurious and intimate. Ours had 2 more rooms below and next to us but they were vacant. We weren't inside the main city, we were kinda on the outskirts a bit but that gave us a nice view of the city at night with it being lit up with the beach. Downside is that ubers weren't allowed to enter so easily since it was like a gated area so we had to use approved taxi drivers to pick us up to get into the city. Annoying but worth the trouble.

We settle in and we get ready for a 4 x4 ride I booked us. Thanks to learning up my porto I understand the instructions on how to ride the 4 x4 and off we go.

Big shoutout to [URL]https://en.ondaarraial.com[/URL].

The girl who owns the business speaks perfect English, Spanish and Porto and has all the connects. She worked and lived in Canada and got stuck in Brazil so started her own tourism business. She helped out a bunch and she can easily help you book whatever you need.

The 4 x4 ride was really fun for 4 hours going around town and different beaches. Was only like 300 BRL or something like that. Worth it!

Afterwards we stop by a restaurant by praia grande which is probably the least impressive beach in arraial. Orla 33 steakhouse was the place. It had a upperdeck eating area that had a nice view of the sunset. Food was pretty good too as we got a mixed serving of beef, steak and chicken.

After all that we go back home and I'm pretty exhausted. I go in for some late night fun but harley gets distracted by all the photos I took of her on the 4 x4, beaches and sunset. She's posting them on all her socials and since I was pretty tired anyways I decide to just shrug it off and call it a night anyways.

Next morning I get up and try to initiate some morning fun but get brushed off twice since she says she has to do her hair. She takes 2 hours to fix her hair even though we're going to the beach and doing another ride around the city on a ATV. After some light foreplay I get my foot in the door but the fact I had to do so much initiating kinda soured it. I just power thru and go with the flow and just look forward to the daily activities ahead. We go on a nice transparent kayak in Praia do Forno. You have to hike for 15 mins to get to the beach and they don't let you take any music speakers to the beach because of this it's one of the best beaches in arraial. It's not as crowded and not noisy. The beach was super clear and tons and tons of jellyfishes swim around you. The beaches here are miles better than RJ. Lots of people here speak spanish and there's a big argentine population here. It's not uncommon to hear spanish and english being spoken in arraial or buzios.

After the kayak we go to our ATV tour to some more beaches and it's great to ride around on one of these things! We get to a place called PONTA the ALCAÍRA. It's like a mini version of the maldives kinda. Really nice and they got some stand up paddle boards that we got on. We drive back to town and hit a burger place and then head back home.

This time I definitely go for some night fun to top the night but this time she says her stomach hurts. She's also posting more photos I took of her today again like last night and this time I'm actually upset by this.

It's definitely true that once you get a steady regular girl that she'll try to avoid having to do as much as possible. It's weird because it's like your being punished for doing the right thing with sticking with just one girl and giving them all your attention. I guess they see it as a mini relationship and as such sex isn't on command and you have to work for it.

I just let out the biggest sigh and start to rethink this whole trip. She hears my sighs and starts to lay on me why she wasn't in the mood. She tells me I said some jokes that rubbed her the wrong way and that when I asked her if she would get a short haircut like our waitress that she was offended. Trivial stuff. I told her I didn't mean to offend her. She goes off on the fact that I kept trying to initiate in the morning and night. She brings up her ex and how he wouldn't do that and was always sweet. The same ex that freaked out and broke into her apartment just a few days ago.

At this point I just snap back as calmly as I could and tell her that first of all that she insulted me first by missing her flight that I paid for and lost all of our reservations on the first day. Must have lost like $800 USD in total. That if I really just only wanted to have sex with her I would have gone to SP and saw her for 1 HR each day and that would have been WAYYY cheaper than everything I was doing. That I had to go through so much BS to get to Brazil and on top of that, all these trips and nights out we did together was more than any guy has ever done for her. Oh but because some asshole fuckbuddy in SP says a few fake bullshit words that he some how is the better person is some actual shit. I tell her I'm a man of action and not words. I promised her I would be with her on her birthday and show her the best time and here I am, doing just that. That it was costing a pretty penny but when I say I'll do something I do it and that should hold more weight than anything any guy can easily say to any girl that he wants to into the pants of. And if I was like her precious ex I would be screaming at her right now and throwing a fit like the child he was.

Like honestly how many guys learn a new language, flies 9 hours and keeps his promises in this day and age. Like not even most civilian girls get that. She knew I was right so she deflected and kept on going about other things while not refuting anything I said. It was just a back and forth that was leading to nothing and it was 2 am. I just got up and told her I apologized for my unintentional insults and that I was done. I got the bottle of champagne I bought for us for our boat ride and took it to the balcony because that ship has sailed kkkkk. I drank the entire bottle in 15 minutes to celebrate my blessings. I go back in and she sees the empty bottle and looks sad and scared. I'm not a drinker, in fact this was my third time ever drinking. I tell her I'm not an angry drunk and that it really didn't do anything because I still feel nothing. I tell her its ok and lets just go to sleep.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744][b]Not all dreams are pleasant, some are nightmares too[/b][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting your experiences. Very detailed and good read. I do give you kudos for planning an extensive vacation, It's too bad your time with your companion has not live up to your expectations.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]Entrance is 100 BRL + 500 BRL for the girl and 100 BRL for the room. Not worth it and I should have left but [b]I took a chance as I wanted to see that backroom[/b] and I can tell you it's the worst.[/QUOTE]So why not just ask to see the back room?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]So I wake up the next day and lo and behold she misses her flight to Rio.[/QUOTE]And it was at this point that she should have been blocked and deleted.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]Anyways, I'm pretty pissed because we planned this trip two weeks ahead of time so she knew not to miss this flight.[/QUOTE]LOL. Sure. A hooker that has not paid 1 real for anything and has men by the dozen, cares about some trick 5000 miles away that she has seen how many times say don't miss the flight? If you think that you can rely on a mf with no skin in the game to make sure your money and time is spent wisely, then I have a bridge to Niteroi to sell you. Sounds like YOU planned the trip two weeks ago. She did not have to do anything excpet show up and she could not do that right. Have you figured out yet why some chicks can't do anything except rent out pussy?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]I had talked to an uber driver with my more advanced porto to drive us to arraial so had to tell him to go back home. I also booked a nice AirBNB in arraial so lost one night. I also booked a nice private boat ride with BBQ on board that couldn't be rescheduled. So I lost a bunch of reservations that day.[/QUOTE]Valuable (or rather expensive) lessons to be learned here. They are the best laid plans when counting on hookers and do not put all your eggs in one basket. When I went to AC with a nurse a few months ago I did not book shit until she picked me up from the airport. As she was driving, I was booking a place to stay.

I am in Peru now and on Friday I am taking a trip to Nazca to see the lines. I am supposed to go with a chick (not a hooker) that I was with yesterday. I already have a cheap hostel booked. Tomorrow I am going to the bus station to buy 2 one way tickets there. That way if there are any excuses I have spent minimal money and at least I will have the seat next to me open on the way there. I will buy the return tickets once we are together at the bus station Friday.

You are always going to go wrong when you count on 1 chick, be it hooker or normal lady. All the chicks that I deal with know I do not plan anything and I just pop up whenever and be like bich I am here, let's do something. And if she is busy then I send a message to the next one. You should have had chicks in Rio waiting in the wings for when the chick missed the flight to begin with.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]At this point I just snap back as calmly as I could and tell her that first of all that she insulted me first by missing her flight that I paid for and lost all of our reservations on the first day. Must have lost like $800 USD in total. That if I really just only wanted to have sex with her I would have gone to SP and saw her for 1 HR each day[/QUOTE]Sex with her? Man you let this hooker take too much credit. I even tell normal chicks that if I wanted to fuck someone then I know where plenty of chicks are selling pussy for $10; yours is not as special as you think. And they are usually not only surprised that I know where to get pussy but that pussy can actually be found much cheaper than they thought. One thing is for sure. This chick did not respect you, your time, or your money.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744], all these trips and nights out we did together was more than any guy has ever done for her. Oh but because some asshole fuckbuddy in SP says a few fake bullshit words that he some how is the better person is some actual shit. I tell her I'm a man of action and not words. I promised her I would be with her on her birthday and show her the best time and here I am, doing just that. That it was costing a pretty penny but when I say I'll do something I do it and that should hold more weight than anything any guy can easily say to any girl that he wants to into the pants of. And if I was like her precious ex I would be screaming at her right now and throwing a fit like the child he was.[/QUOTE]And there is your problem right there. You have not figured out what The Beatles were thinking of when they said that money can't buy you love. You can not get mad at this dude because he is fucking the chick for free and knows how to show out on her when she gets out of place. You thought you could win the hooker over by spending thousands of dollars and at the same time getting zero pussy, while the dude that is fucking her for free and has not spent 1 real probably can't get rid of her if he wanted to. You may be able to catch a chick's short term attention with money, but it is definitely not going to help you keep her. Being a man of action and not words means cutting a chick off when they fuck up, not throwing around money trying to obtain favor. (You have to figure it is not the first time a hooker has seen a guy throw around money. It means nothing.) As they say where I am from, I can show you better than I can tell you.

P.S. Please tell me that you canceled her flight back? If I ever buy a chick a ticket to somewhere with me then it is always 2 one-ways. With the games that chick played with you, she should have definitely been walking back to Sao Paulo, or selling ass at Mabs to buy her own ticket back.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]
This time I definitely go for some night fun to top the night but this time she says her stomach hurts. She's also posting more photos I took of her today again like last night and this time I'm actually upset by this.

It's definitely true that once you get a steady regular girl that she'll try to avoid having to do as much as possible. It's weird because it's like your being punished for doing the right thing with sticking with just one girl and giving them all your attention. I guess they see it as a mini relationship and as such sex isn't on command and you have to work for it.
.[/QUOTE]Oh my, what a nightmare!

That girl needed to be dumped from the get go!

She would be a 'steady regular' for like 5 minutes, then Ate nunca!

Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=Singe247;2677656]She says she will come after 3 pm as she has hearings to attend all morning and afternoon. We spend 6 hours in the hotel room fucking around. Great performance, no complaints. The live google translate feature does help but its nothing close to the real thing.

I send her off at night and head to 4 x4.

Now maybe because I just came back from spending 10 days in SP and going to Scandallo 4 times, but my god the girls here are ugly. I do understand it's an unfair comparison. I just wanted to experience the place, didn't take anyone and was out of there in 1 hour.

There was a girl that I really thought was on some kind of drugs, she was just humming around the place with half open eyes and really bad dark circles. Stayed way clear of that one.

The lady at the counter again spoke excellent English and was so disappointed when I was leaving haha.

There was this mulatta there that stood in front of me and shouted "Do you like pussy" with bad breath too boot. That was my cue to leave.[/QUOTE]KKK Singe, welcome to RJ. Now you know why many of us prefer SP. But to be fair, you should check out Solarium. It has less atmosphere (circus circus) than 4 x4, but it does offer few more attractive girls. There are also some "A" quality girls on the BarraVips website that you might be interested in. In my experience you pay for what you get.

When I go to 4 x 4 looking for a good time, I go for the whole package, IE the vibe, the atmosphere, and the girls and the vibe and atmosphere is great. I like the joint, but I do not pre-set my sites on Scandallo quality girls because I know it is highly unlikely that I will find one there. IMHO and I gather yours as well, most 4 x4 girls are unfuckable, so be it, but I am happy if I can spot 1 to 3 sexy, fuckable, and friendly girls there on a given night and I have not been disappointed yet.

Can anyone tell me if the 50 R entrance fee is still waived at 4 x4 if you take a girl before 5 PM?

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2677726]Does such thing exist? Finding some street action around beach area in Rio. This was my unfinished fantasy from my last Rio trip in February. Any insights to this. I am planning my next trip already.[/QUOTE]You can find them on the side walk or street parking area near Mabs.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2677725]I may have to read your earlier post but how did you meet this lawyer girl.

And spot on. After Scandello, 4 X 4 looks ugly. ....[/QUOTE]

I think you won't be able to tell the difference if I pick one above average looking girl from each to stand naked in front of you after removing all the makeup. The way I see it is the girls dress the part based on their target clients. Majority of them have similar background.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2677868]Can anyone tell me if the 50 R entrance fee is still waived at 4 x4 if you take a girl before 5 PM?[/QUOTE]I think Anaggie recently did it and reported it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2677906]You can find them on the side walk or street parking area near Mabs.[/QUOTE]" You can find them on the side walk or street parking area near Mabs. " - so that area is little shady and I was more looking for girls "on the beach" with beach clothes and get some preview / pre action kinda fantasy. MABs is hit or miss IMHO.

I agree with your assessment on if we keep girls naked and without makeup from each location they look the same. But it is that "first impression" and experience the beauty with that is what my 2 cents goes.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2677928]I think Anaggie recently did it and reported it.[/QUOTE]Yup it was in effect when I was there in February.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2677979]Yup it was in effect when I was there in February.[/QUOTE]It used to be until 6 PM. Did they change it to 5 PM?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2677993]It used to be until 6 PM. Did they change it to 5 PM?[/QUOTE]Just left 4 x4. It is still 6 PM.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2677935]...on the beach...[/QUOTE]I think there is a recent post about that, maybe a few weeks ago.

I do my man! I just dunno if I'll be able to post it here. Sometimes the forum blocks some messages.

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[QUOTE=TCurry108;2677423]Hey Andresingle,

Do you have a WhatsApp or another way to contact you? I just got here for a short visit and down to explore if your still here.[/QUOTE][u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove email addresses in the text[/u]. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

Hey Vagabundo, do you know more girls who offer BBFSCIP here in Rio? I'd like to get to know some.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2677465]Zawaadi (previously Ana Zawaadi Foxxx) Pernoite $400 r ($80 USD); Friday sex food tour 12 h30 Starbucks.

We got in our 4 pops, with two this morning, both BBFSCIP. Shot a nice load in her 20 year old negra as wesly snipes pussy watching the not too hardcore Everything butt scene with Ana foxxx, kira noir, and a Latina on [URL]kink.com[/URL] on the HDTV, and a Tommy Pistol / Ana Foxxx scene on the 13 inch Macbook Air with M1 chip screen, while listening to Maria Gadu on spotify or music. [URL]google.com[/URL], properly elevated to a few joints, and after hygiene, IE, brushing my nasty fangs, and showering.[/QUOTE]

It is Thursday, time to smoke weed, go to the beach, and fuck 19 year olds bare.

Well, Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss Navy Retired, awoke with Anne Amari. We fucked. We smoked weed, we listened to felipe ret, we watched the always appropriate everything butt scene with Ana foxxx, kira noir, and jane wild, and the whipped ass scene with Ana foxxx dominating elle, which evokes thoughts of Ana foxxx ass fucking Traci lords. We are planning to go to the beach. There are MILFs in the building, including an American girl from Miami, hot AF, and the pool talent at Transamerica is strong as ever, including some obvious barravipsrio girls. The ideal time of year has come. The bubble from new years to the end of carnival (as measured by the religious calendar, covid adjustments notwithstanding) may be popping. It is now that the best girls can be brought into the harem for 500 pernoite a few times a week.

If we meet in person, I may point you in the right direction, but in general no, I'm not a pimp, on philosophical grounds for which see the novel, Shantaram.

[QUOTE=AndreSingle;2678138]Hey Vagabundo, do you know more girls who offer BBFSCIP here in Rio? I'd like to get to know some.[/QUOTE]

Hi gents,

Can you tell me of any girl friendly hotels in Barra de Tijuca, or any big two double bed air bnb that you know of. Also has anyone stayed there for a week and what's it like during the week and at the weekend. Did anyone have any luck scoring ladies in the bars or on the beach, what was their experience there?

Regards.

I've read the "Thrill is gone" posts going back awhile. Rio may well be cheaper than SP but a couple locals and even an expat today have told me Rio is shit these days and genuinely not safe. Because I'm having to use cash most places I'm beginning to start triage on what I really want since I hate getting cash out.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678812]I've read the "Thrill is gone" posts going back awhile. Rio may well be cheaper than SP but a couple locals and even an expat today have told me Rio is shit these days and genuinely not safe. Because I'm having to use cash most places I'm beginning to start triage on what I really want since I hate getting cash out.[/QUOTE]It's good as a first visit to Brazil to try to go both SP and Rio. As you can see, they are different. Also every guy has a different mongering style, and it's hard to know what you will like. I tend to stick to SP now. Other guys really prefer Rio and wonder why we go to SP, overpay and go to Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]So that's my two cents and on to the real story.

THE TRIP.

So I wake up the next day and lo and behold she misses her flight to Rio. [/QUOTE]Sorry that the dream end. How did you end the trip?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2677827]There are also some "A" quality girls on the BarraVips website that you might be interested in. In my experience you pay for what you get.[/QUOTE]I just checked the BarraVips website and they have some pretty impressive girls. Do you know are the girls real there or they are using fake photos? And also wondering what are the prices, didn't find info at the website.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678812]Because I'm having to use cash most places I'm beginning to start triage on what I really want since I hate getting cash out.[/QUOTE]Most places like where? The only places that I recall not using my Amex is if I am mongering or buying a trinket off the street.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678812]I've read the "Thrill is gone" posts going back awhile. Rio may well be cheaper than SP but a couple locals and even an expat today have told me Rio is shit these days and genuinely not safe. Because I'm having to use cash most places I'm beginning to start triage on what I really want since I hate getting cash out.[/QUOTE]I've only been to Rio once and not Sao Paulo so I'm not exactly an expert but I thought that Rio was safer than some people made out on here, providing you have common sense and take precautions. Bad things happen in every major city in the world.

I was doing at least 20,000 steps a day around Copacabana and Centro and never got any bother. Day time in Copacabana is fine and night time get an Uber. If you're scared of your own shadow stay at home.

I wore zipped shorts with a hidden pocket for my card, only carried enough money for that particular day, I don't wear jewelry, kept my regular phone in the hotel safe and I don't drink alcohol but if you do just don't get wasted. Just common sense really.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2678917]I just checked the BarraVips website and they have some pretty impressive girls. Do you know are the girls real there or they are using fake photos? And also wondering what are the prices, didn't find info at the website.[/QUOTE]In 2021 I took 2 trips to RJ during which I hooked up with 7 BarraVip girls. The 1st trip was in April 2021 when Rj was in lockdown and all the Termas where closed. Thank God for BarraVip! KKK. Anyway all 7 girls looked in person exactly like their on line photos. There were no ugly surprises.

I have kept in touch with 2 of the girls from my April trip and saw them again multiple times in October. #1 is GFE and we bareback and go out for dinners together after boom boom. #2 is boom boom and dinners too, but our vaginal sex is still covered. I plan to see those 2 again in May when I return.

My 3rd and 4th BarraVip girls are quite attractive, all natural, young, slender girls. I lost track of #3 and only saw her one time. She told me she lives in SP, but our WhatsApp connection is broke. I don; t know if I will ever see her again. My #4 BarraVip girl offered anal as an extra our 1st time together and just for the hell of it I tried her ass out. It was the best anal fuck I ever had! No kidding. It was so good that I asked her over to my hotel the following afternoon right before my evening flight back to MIA for one last shag. It was outstanding way to end the trip. Our session could not have been better. Unfortunately, she has had super large breast implants while I was back home in Florida and sadly, I have lost my desire to see her.

#5 was my first BarraVip girl. She came over on Good Friday, 2021. She is a nice girl, good looking, tight body, no fat, but she has a large bunda (no surprise, it was prominently displayed in her online photos) but a large ass does not do anything for me, so I never repeated with her.

#6 was just adequate in bed, not bad, just not worth repeating. I don't have much more to say about her, except that she looked like her photos.

#7 was an interesting interlude. She came over. Looked real good. We had a glass of wine on the balcony, but she held back when I French kissed her. Back in the room she did not immediately jump on my dick and I asked her what's up? She then said I must pay her in advance. I said. "I never pay in advance. " She said, "you do not know how it is in Brazil. In Brazil you pay in advance" I laughed and told her, "I know how it is in Brazil and I know how it is all over the world. I never pay in advance. " So, it was a standoff with her refusing to budge. She WAS very good looking, so I did something I very seldom do. I showed her the money and put it on a shelf in the closet. I said, "this money is yours after we boom boom. " But she said that was no good. So that was it and I said, "I think it is time for you to go. " Then she got up and walked out of my hotel room in a huff. She was so pissed off that she even forgot to ask for Uber money. KKK. I waited 5 minutes or so to make sure she was gone and then I texted my #1 BarrVip girl. #1 said she was not made up because she was planning to spend the night at home, but she could be ready and come over in 30 minutes. I said fine. She arrived 30 minutes later looking casual with no make up, but real good. It was another great night in RJ.

So you can see I am a satisfied BarraVip customer, but I prefer going out to the Termas at night so except for #4, my anal gal, I did not seek out any new BarraVip girls on my 2nd RJ visit last October. But I repeated with my 2 favorites from April 3 nights with each girl.

I am very picky with my selection of online girls. I like slender, attractive girls and I don't like silly cones. My preferences eliminate a large number of girls. You have to WhatsApp the BarraVip girls that interest you to find out their prices and availability. I usually engage in multiple texting with more than one girl at a time because after the girls respond to an initial text from me rather quickly, they go off line for 30 minute or longer to slow things down and I suspect to see if I am a rational or irrational potential customer. Eventually they all come back to our Whatsapp connection and pick up the conversation right where they left off.

Some girls might send additional pictures or get right down to it. They will ask where you are staying. Some may ask what you are looking for. Sooner or later they all get around to their price and when you want to see them. Every BarraVip girl I ever texted with asked for either 500 br or 600 br plus they all wanted me to arrange for an Uber pick up unless I was willing to go to their apartment. I like going out, so I have been to #1 and #2's apartment a couple of times. Interestingly, #1 has a very nice loft apartment directly across from Barra Praia. She has a sponsor who has graciously paid her rent for the entire year. Lucky girl! Lucky me! KKK.

The following post, is borrowed from the "Stupid Shit in Brazil" thread, but its light-years from being stupid and bears repeating here:

[QUOTE=Nordico;2679020] Most of us do that. Many times, if the discussion is heated, I should wait for the next day before posting LOL. Anyway, we, the veteran members, should be nicer to the new members when commenting their posts. There is a learning curve when one comes to a new mongering megapolis like RJ and mistakes are made, [b] but if their posts are immediately shot down for some irrelevant error, they don't come back and what will be left, is us, the usual suspects, with our usual posts and opinions. [/b] I like to read the posts of the first timers with their enthusiasm and their mistakes and there is always something new to learn.[/QUOTE]Yes, definitely even we veterans, (who like to think we know it all), could stand to take the opportunity to learn a thing or two from our newbies and first times.

At the very least, revel in their enthusiasm, if [b]earnest efforts[/b] are being made to contribute.

Plus Field Marshall Soberhands is a MMA guy who is very fit and we rolled in a small NATO team of pussy slayers.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2679011]I've only been to Rio once and not Sao Paulo so I'm not exactly an expert but I thought that Rio was safer than some people made out on here, providing you have common sense and take precautions. Bad things happen in every major city in the world.

I was doing at least 20,000 steps a day around Copacabana and Centro and never got any bother. Day time in Copacabana is fine and night time get an Uber. If you're scared of your own shadow stay at home.

I wore zipped shorts with a hidden pocket for my card, only carried enough money for that particular day, I don't wear jewelry, kept my regular phone in the hotel safe and I don't drink alcohol but if you do just don't get wasted. Just common sense really.[/QUOTE]

Several of those girls lived at Transamerica, and I put them up when the come back.

Yasmin mineira, BTW, is a medical student.

She charges 700 r an hour.

But I fucked her for 150 r when she was just starting in 2015, and she throws an old client a bone every now and then haha.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2678917]I just checked the BarraVips website and they have some pretty impressive girls. Do you know are the girls real there or they are using fake photos? And also wondering what are the prices, didn't find info at the website.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2679130]In 2021 I took 2 trips to RJ during which I hooked up with 7 BarraVip girls. The 1st trip was in April 2021 when Rj was in lockdown and all the Termas where closed. Thank God for BarraVip! KKK. Anyway all 7 girls looked in person exactly like their on line photos. There were no ugly surprises.[/QUOTE]Thanks Axel for the detailed info, much appreciated! I like how it sounds, will deffinetley try BarraVip when I arrive. One question. What is included in the price? I mean you mentioned you went for a dinners and so on. I guess the didn't wanted additional for that. And how long do they stayed? Is it a one shot and then bye or it's a relaxed meeting for a few hours at your / their apartments?

[QUOTE=DinoDong;2651479]

Next day, RJ massegem, Vitoria with probably the best Nuru I ever had in my life. Her perfume smell finally took over the VM smell and life was good again.
[/QUOTE]The last time I had a good Nuru was maybe 3 years ago in Bangkok. I am pretty curious to try the Rio version. Is this the place that you are talking about [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/[/URL] And is it a full service place or just a massage with a HJ/BJ finish?

Barra Malls Guide.

Here is a guide to Barra Malls by Vagabundo, who aspires to be a Bubba Boy Buttman (see internationalsexguide. NL for that famed user).

Senor Nordico wanted to know where the fair (the street market) is. This is a legit question, and I will answer it and other questions about Barra Malls here.

Fair.

First, the Tuesday morning street fair is just next to the Barra Garden shopping center, near the gas station, where the Riviera condo intersects with Ave das Americas. I go there to get Salmon for 110 r a kilo (compared to 100 r for. 4 kilos in the pricey market). What does this have to do with whoring? Well, I have a girl with me for like pernoite 4 or 5, and she hasn't asked for money, but I feed her, and we do the churrasco together on the balcony.

Guanabarra supermarket has a mall, with the best pricing on groceries.

Across the street is the best sports store, Decathalon, which is where I recommend you shop for your trip to Rio or Brazil. This is where you can get the sandals you can shower and fuck in.

Barra Garden is closest to the famed Transamerica (av gastao senges 395).

Villagemall is just down the main street, Av das Americas. This has the best high end rich demographic selection -- apple store, super luxury movie theaters, very nice restaurants.

Barra Shopping. Further down Ave das Americas, this is the main shopping center, with a statue of liberty, sitting there like a allusion to planet of the apes, and perhaps too to City of God, which may intersect, thematically.

Ave Olegario Maciel 7 (Na Brasa Colombia) counts as a mall too, as the whole street is a high end shopping district. This is at Metro Jardim Oceanico, and it is near the best terma IMHO in Rio, Perola Negra. PN is Ave de Pepe 400.

Paris Cafe is further down towards Recreio, and further still in that direction is Praia Abrico, and even further past Praia Abrico is Cafe Marambaia, where the best Paella in Rio can be had.

I've been coming to Rio since 2007. I rarely post (I know, my bad) but have always found this forum very helpful and informative going back to the Bubba guide. I'll say this about Copacabana. The biggest threat is pickpockets and other petty thievery plus teenagers trying to ambush you late at night, especially if you're in a hotel on a dark side street. I've often noticed them lurking, but once two kids approached me and demanded my phone and money. They had no weapons, so of course I punched the one closest to me in the face. That seemed to do the trick. We always read about all the hardened criminals brandishing automatic weapons but it's mostly people who are desperately poor trying to survive. I feel as safe in Copacabana (and now much more so than 2007) as in any downtown area in North America or Europe. Stay aware, don't flash. Common sense.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2679011]I've only been to Rio once and not Sao Paulo so I'm not exactly an expert but I thought that Rio was safer than some people made out on here, providing you have common sense and take precautions. Bad things happen in every major city in the world.

I was doing at least 20,000 steps a day around Copacabana and Centro and never got any bother. Day time in Copacabana is fine and night time get an Uber. If you're scared of your own shadow stay at home.

I wore zipped shorts with a hidden pocket for my card, only carried enough money for that particular day, I don't wear jewelry, kept my regular phone in the hotel safe and I don't drink alcohol but if you do just don't get wasted. Just common sense really.[/QUOTE]

Just arrived to Rio yesterday.

I planned to hit 4 x4 first, but forgot it's closed the saturdays. So I changed my plan and hit Monte Carlo.

After 15 years, no change at all.

After taking my white robe I was excited to go upstairs to the boate, and a first girl was just waiting here to say Hello, to new ones coming. She was very sweet smile a lot.

I continue directly to the bar and looking other girls (6 in total). Asking for a Caipirinha, and I decided to offer one to the 1st girl I met. Other ones to my opinion were 6 or 7 when she was a solid 8,5.

Mulata, 1,65, very nice and firm bunda with few stretch mark, but very few. Silicone boobs, but pretty a good work because looks natural.

We sat like 20 minutes and speaking a lot. We kiss with her tongue deep in my throat. Only in Brazil.

On the bed, she was mix GFE and PSE, so very great. Very good BJ tecnic, and she enjoy it. She would I come into the mouth but I prefer finished on the pussy. Her name is barbie or babi. I didn't ask for anal but I think she is open for it.

Monday and Tuesday probably try 4 x4 or 502. Or maybe one of the other many adress recommanded by Vagabundo.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2679246]Thanks Axel for the detailed info, much appreciated! I like how it sounds, will definitely try BarraVip when I arrive. One question. What is included in the price? I mean you mentioned you went for a dinners and so on. I guess the didn't wanted additional for that. And how long do they stayed? Is it a one shot and then bye or it's a relaxed meeting for a few hours at your / their apartments?[/QUOTE]Default service should include DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS (Vaginal sex in multiple positions) all done with a reasonable amount of passion and it is assumed by both parties that the session will last for one hour more or less and include one or two shots time permitting. If you go over a little, you go over. Nobody is watching the clock too closely.

Initial special requests like bareback, CIM, or anal will probably cost more or may be turned down. It depends on the girl. Same same with dinners. This is a major reason I never go into pre-negotiation or make special requests. I like to see what develops spontaneously. TheCane and I were talking about this very issue just a few days ago in the SP Forum.

Dinners: if during the initial texting phase, which is required in order to arrange for a session, you ask a BarraVip girl if she wants to go out to dinner with you afterwards, she will construe that as a request for more time and therefore she will want to charge you for the extra time. I consider the concept of paying a girl to accompany me to a fine restaurant as being ridiculous, so I will never do it. But when I like a girl, then yeah, I think it is nice to take her out to dinner after we just had sex, so usually after our 2nd time together, I'll casually ask her what she is planning to do next as we are getting dressed. If she is busy or has somewhere to go I leave it at that. But if she says "nothing" then I will ask her out to dinner and she is free to say yes or no. My experience with this approach is 50:50. Some girls want to leave because they consider the session is over and that is fine with me. A few girls want to charge more for the added time and I politely laugh the upsell off. But the smart ones, the ones, that see the benefit of cultivating repeat customers will say sure, where would you like to go?

I sort of apply the same approach with Barebacking. I always have a Sagami 0. 02 in the nightstand. I take several boxes with me on every trip. As soon as a girl asks for a condom, she gets a condom, but I always convey to her, in the most friendly terms of course, my preference and the more I repeat with a girl, the more she will understand that I really want to fuck her Bareback.

I have found Brazilian girls are very conservative in this respect. Perhaps it is the language barrier. I don't know, but in BKK, 25% of my Go Go girls bareback me on the first night without my saying a word about it, 75% by our 3rd night. In Jakarta, 50% of my girls bareback on the 1st night without my saying a word, 90% by the 3rd night. And in the PI, the GFE capital of the known Universe, 90% of my girls bareback on the 1st night without my saying a word. In fact, I will never forget my 1st trip to the PI back in 2009. OMG! I even posted a trip report back then entitled, "Barebacking in the PI. " where every single girl that trip barebacked me without my saying anything. That trip changed my point of view forever. LOL.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2679277]The last time I had a good Nuru was maybe 3 years ago in Bangkok. I am pretty curious to try the Rio version. Is this the place that you are talking about [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/[/URL] And is it a full service place or just a massage with a HJ/BJ finish?[/QUOTE]That's the place.

They have 3 locations: Barra, copa and centro.

My session ended with a HJ.

Others have said you can get the girls number afterwards but I wanted to do more sightseeing so I just left it at that.

700 brl for 2 girls for one hour in cash.

350 for 1 girl.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2679471]That's the place.

They have 3 locations: Barra, copa and centro.

My session ended with a HJ.

Others have said you can get the girls number afterwards but I wanted to do more sightseeing so I just left it at that.

700 brl for 2 girls for one hour in cash.

350 for 1 girl.[/QUOTE]Need to ask: how about DFK / DATY? HJ / BJ is fine but only if there's the sensuality. Any intel appreciated.

Since you guys brought the venue up in conversation, here is an old trip report of mine from my 1st trip to Brazil that I think covers all the bases.

RJMassagem Part 1 April 9, 2021:

Around 2:30 I ubered over to RJ Massagem. This Prive shop is located on the 3rd floor of a regular shopping mall on Ave dos Americas a major commercial boulevard in Barra De Tijuca. Actually there are 3 branches of RJ Massagem; in Barra, Copacabana, and Centro. Here is their website in case anyone is interested: [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/[/URL].

When I arrived in RJ last April it was in lockdown, but I sent messages to a few Prive's anyway hoping one would respond. The reason I was particularly interested in RJMassagem is obvious. They have some sexy girls on their websites. So I had an appointment with Clara. (She is now called White on the website). Clara was my 2nd choice, but good enough, ha ha, and I was looking forward to getting out of the house so to speak, my hotel, breaking new ground, and shagging some different kind of girls other than BarraVip call girls.

I arrived a few minutes before my appointment and Clara came to greet me soon after I checked in. But wait, the check-in process was interesting. I was asked to choose which kind of massage I wanted and for how long. I did not care which massage I received, I came for sexual intercourse, but I noticed that Nuru was on the menu, but for more money. Naturally. I knew it would not be a real Nuru massage, but I imagined it might be like some Nuru massages I used to get on Sukhumvit Soi 33 in BKK where the girl and I used to get real gooey and goopy and start sliding around together on an air mattress which always led, before you knew it, to bareback time. So I chose the Nuru massage for 60 minutes thinking the same thing might happen here.

Then I met Clara and she escorted me to the room. She was blond, well put together, decent fake tits (not too large), pretty face, all smiles and she looked like her photos with the addition of a couple of years, but overall, I had a very good 1st impression of her.

The room was large room and elegantly (for a oily massage parlor) first class with a king size bed and a very large shower / wash area. We got undressed and Clara told me to lie on my stomach. She lubed up and began massaging my legs, then my ass, and lastly my back with her tits. After 4 or 5 minutes she began to massage my ass and reached underneath once or twice.

I rolled onto my back to get a look at her and to move things along. She laughed and then lubed up some more and began body to body massaging my legs. Dick. Stomach, and chest. The oil she used was not Nuru, that is for sure, but I began having a pretty good time anyway and it did not take long to get hard. She liked the effect she was having on me and began to give me a sensuous BJ. I liked that a lot although it was not a deep throat like what the call girls were giving me.

Anyway, she came off my dick and body massaged her way up to my face and we kissed but not for long because she kept body to body massaging me in a circular fashion, but every time she came up to my face we kissed again. After the 3rd or 4th rotation I was ready for the main event, vaginal intercourse, so I said, "let's make love. " But to my complete surprise, Clara informed me that full service was not on the menu. I said what? And she looked me straight in the eyes, smiled graciously, and said she could not do it.

Well, you can imagine how I felt, but words fail me. I was ready for sex and this hot, blond chick who had just had my dick in her mouth for a prolonged period of time, was saying no cannot in all sincerity. She then asked me to just relax and she promised she would take care of me, but whatever that meant, it did not mean vaginal intercourse, unfortunately. But since there was not a thing I could do about it, house rules, I accepted my fate and laid back and let Clara do her thing. The body to body massage was nice and we did begin kissing more and longer. Then she went back down on my dick again. I liked her BJ's and after a while I leaned forward so I could touch her pussy. She became wet and allowed me to finger her. The foreplay was pleasurable. I pulled her up off my dick and we began to seriously DFK.

Then I laid back down on my back and she came on top. I told her again I wanted to fuck her and she said, "I can't, HERE, darling." I heard the last part clear as a bell, so I asked if she wanted to have boom boom later at my hotel and she said Yes. I said, when, tonight? And she said no, she could not, but she could come to my hotel tomorrow afternoon if I wanted. I said I wanted and we began kissing and rubbing our bodies again.

Towards the end of the session Clara made an effort to finish me off in her mouth, but I was already thinking about doing a call girl in the evening, so CIM was not going to happen this afternoon. The phone rang telling us my time was up. We stayed in our embrace for a while. There was no rush to end things. The phone rang a 2nd time and we went to the shower and she cleaned me up. Then she quickly dressed and told me to stay in the room as she left. She came back seconds later with a pen and paper and wrote down her telephone number and told me to call her. I said I would and we kissed goodbye. I was 1000% sure I would call her tomorrow and complete our mission. There is nothing like unrequited love the fire up the libido. I wanted her!

I went back to the reception area and the girl there asked how I liked my massage. I said it was great. Then she informed me that the price of my massage was on a special re-opening day discount of only 350 br instead of the usual 450 br. Lucky me. 555. But I felt pretty good anyway and I was looking forward to nailing Clara tomorrow. I was also thinking about who I was going to book for tonight.

I wandered around the shopping mall and it was nice to see a few restaurants and stores open for a change. Things were beginning to look up. Then I ubered back to my hotel. It was after 6 pm when I arrived. Time to choose a call girl for the evening's entertainment.

To be continued, RJMassagem Part 2: Clara at the Hyatt.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2679420]Default service should include DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS (Vaginal sex in multiple positions) all done with a reasonable amount of passion and it is assumed by both parties that the session will last for one hour more or less and include one or two shots time permitting. If you go over a little, you go over. Nobody is watching the clock too closely.
[/QUOTE]Damn, I guess Thailand and Kenya spoiled me. There I got used to spend one night with the girl and now a 1 hours seems like too professional. In my last few trips (except Cuba), basically when I found a semi-pro girl, most of the times we spent the whole night together, sometimes going out to drinking in a nice bar. Sometimes just fuck all night. Then if I like them, next day I took them with me for a company. On a trip or just hanging around in the city. I fear RJ will be something different. Will see on Insta or Tinder will I find a semi pro girl with a lot of free time. Anyway, there are few girls on BarraVip that I just can't resist and will definitely try them. Even for one hour.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2679471]That's the place.

They have 3 locations: Barra, copa and centro.

My session ended with a HJ.

Others have said you can get the girls number afterwards but I wanted to do more sightseeing so I just left it at that.

700 brl for 2 girls for one hour in cash.

350 for 1 girl.[/QUOTE]Bad news. With a good massage (especially Nuru) the girl can make you extremely horny and then only a HJ can be like. Just smell the desert, but not taste it. On the other hand, some of the girls there are pretty impressive. If I can convince them to come another evening to my place, then it will worth the efforts. Will see. Thanks for the info brother!

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2679593]Damn, I guess Thailand and Kenya spoiled me. There I got used to spend one night with the girl and now a 1 hours seems like too professional. I fear RJ will be something different. Will see on Insta or Tinder will I find a semi pro girl with a lot of free time. Anyway, there are few girls on BarraVip that I just can't resist and will definitely try them. Even for one hour.[/QUOTE]You should always keep in mind the venue that you are considering. An apt comparison is between mangos & mangos not mangos & mangosteens. BKK has plenty of escort sites similar to BarraVip and MClass (in SP) and the pricing structure is similar. For example I just checked the Bangkok Golden website, [URL]https://www.bangkokgoldenescorts.com/thai-escorts-models/gina.html[/URL] and there is similar pricing at Golden based on time requested, lesbian duos if desired, and couple's requests.

As I am sure you are aware, escort sites are only one way to go and in RJ & SP they certainly have lookers ready and willing to provide excellent service. But in RJ there are Termas, my preferred venue, and lots of prives for less expensive thrills and service. In normal times I prefer sourcing my girls in brick and mortar establishments like the Termas in RJ, Boates in SP, and of course my beloved Go Go's in BKK & MNL.

I started up with BarraVip in RJ & MClass over in SP only because of the code red lockdowns that were in force last April when I first came to Brazil. I am glad I did because I met some charming girls that I never would have hooked up with otherwise. I still see my 2 favorite BarraVip girls and 2 favortie MClass girls that I met on that April trip. But on my last trip in October and my upcoming April / May trip you will most likely find me at the Boates and Termas on any given night or repeating with the girls I already know.

I am sure you will find plenty of girls in RJ & SP that will happily provide you with memorable LT sessions. ST or LT: it's up to you. The 2 things I like best about Brazilian girls is that they look real good (at least the ones I choose look real good, KKK) and they are great in bed. That is the thing you must sample: they are great in bed. World Class!

I used o love staying at IBIS hotels in Rio but two big issues occurred recently that might make me look at other replaces in the future.

1) Visitor Fee. I have been staying at IBIS for years and never had an issue bringing a girl back to my room. Now all of a sudden, they stopped me at the front desk and ask my date to register before she went upstairs, then they told me its a 20 R fee for having a "Visitor". When I corrected her by saying that I had paid for 2 people when I reserved my hotel room. She said I still had the pay because this female wasnt registered. WTF with these hotels and charging for me to bring a girl back?!

2) They did what? - My ex girlfriend and I had plans to go out last night to dinner and a movie. While I was watching TV, somebody knocked on my door, I opened it and my ex girlfriend was standing there. I was like "They let you come upstairs without calling me first?" She laughed and said "Yeah and they actually gave me key to get into the room!" Sure enough, she had a card key!!

She said when she went to the front desk and told them what room she was going to, they asked for her ID. When they ran her ID, they saw that she was my "Registered Guest" from last June and they made a fucking card for her without asking me if it was ok. I was pissed because I could have been upstairs banging another female and she could have just opened my door and waltzed in.

Fucking ridiculous, look like I will have to find a new hotel or decide to just stay in an apartment from now on. (My big knock on the apartment is that angry hating ass doormen who let girls come up to my apartment without calling me first to verify that they can come upstairs. I can't tell you how many times I had a girl in bed and another female is knocking on my door!

Yesterday I had the bad idea to try: [URL]https://www.liferiodejaneiro.com/[/URL].

I choose Michelle on the Copa massage center.

She was really not into it. Too mechanics, too cold, and finish the massage after only 30 min instead of 1 HR. Didn't want to waste my time to disagree.

I met some guys from the whatsapp group at 4 x4. It was slow for a Monday, but still had some solid choice. Had a very good session with Gabriella. Tongue deep in the throat, very crazy sex, well like a brazilian godess.

Semana.

Vagabundo has done a mongering staycation.

He's been with one girl for a week.

BBFS. Goza fora (cum outside).

Salmon and shrimp today. She listens to Springsteen.

900 r a week. 1 - 3 pops a day.

Went to beach 3 times.

Going to pool.

But like a faithless Hemingway, vagabundo will move on.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2680061]Semana.

Vagabundo has done a mongering staycation.

He's been with one girl for a week.

BBFS. Goza fora (cum outside).

Salmon and shrimp today. She listens to Springsteen.

900 r a week. 1 - 3 pops a day.

Went to beach 3 times.

Going to pool.

But like a faithless Hemingway, vagabundo will move on.[/QUOTE]Great deal. If you keep in perspective how much these women make a month busting their ass at a regular job, it helps when you negotiate prices. I have a 19 year old friend who works 6 days a week, 10 hours a day for like 1400 reais a month. I was really tempted to offer her 1500 a month to come over for sex 2 nights a week.

On the subject of great deals, I heard from a friend in Real Estate that Recreio condos are going for $300 k reais, which is like $60 k USD!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2680178]Great deal. If you keep in perspective how much these women make a month busting their ass at a regular job, it helps when you negotiate prices. I have a 19 year old friend who works 6 days a week, 10 hours a day for like 1400 reais a month. I was really tempted to offer her 1500 a month to come over for sex 2 nights a week.[/QUOTE]

On the subject of great deals, I heard from a friend in Real Estate that Recreio condos are going for $300 k reais, which is like $60 k USD!

I hear that you can buy a house in Araurama for $100 k Reais, which is $20 k USD.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2680178]Great deal. If you keep in perspective how much these women make a month busting their ass at a regular job, it helps when you negotiate prices. I have a 19 year old friend who works 6 days a week, 10 hours a day for like 1400 reais a month. I was really tempted to offer her 1500 a month to come over for sex 2 nights a week.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2679729]
As I am sure you are aware, escort sites are only one way to go and in RJ & SP they certainly have lookers ready and willing to provide excellent service. But in RJ there are Termas, my preferred venue, and lots of prives for less expensive thrills and service. In normal times I prefer sourcing my girls in brick and mortar establishments like the Termas in RJ, Boates in SP, and of course my beloved Go Go's in BKK & MNL.
[/QUOTE]No, no, I'm not speaking about escort website and establishments like the Termas. I'm speaking about a semi pro, or a totally non-pro girls that I found on Instagram or Tinder. Like a girl that works at Carrefour, another one that have own small clothe shop, a flight attendant (that was just sacked because she showed up at work a little bit drunk), students and so on. With some luck and a 1 week of sweet talks before arrival, I usually have some contacts. Then when we meet, they stay all night and then we keep in touch. And sometimes we repeat if we had a great time together. Of course, they are being paid for the time spent with me but it's not like an escort "all night price", more like what you usually pay for a 2 hours to the girl from Termas or a Go Go bar, or something like that. If I get lucky, usually I met 3-4 semi-pro girls and the rest of my 2 weeks trip is meeting more "pro orientated" girls. But almost never a girl from a bar like a Go Go bar, and never from an escort agency.

But Rio seems to be a different game compared to Asia and Africa where I have a big experience. Which have it's own charm. Exploring the unknown is always interesting and more emotional. I don't know, I'll see after a month.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2679729] But on my last trip in October and my upcoming April / May trip you will most likely find me at the Boates and Termas on any given night or repeating with the girls I already know.[/QUOTE]I arrive on 29 April and will stay for 2 weeks in Rio. It will be a pleasure to exchange some experience with you on a couple of beers. Same for other members of the forum. If you are in Rio that time of the year, let me know on PM.

My standing suggestions:

12 h-19 h [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL] and [URL]massagemtijuca.com[/URL].

21 h perola negra, av de pepe 400.

24 h mosaico, r. Hilário Ribeiro, 243 - Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20270-180.

A fellow ISG member and I decided to check this place out since no one else found it interesting enough to explore this new tidbit of info to the Rio forum.

From DrAxxx

"Realengo.

55/60 BRL one way with uber From Copacabana. There are 2 boate here Das Flores Av. Marechal Fontenelle, 5635 and Babilonia Av. Santa Cruz, 9. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/clubebabilonia/[/URL] clubs are close and you can walk from one to the other. Entry fee is 15 at Das Flores and 10 at Babilonia, both clubs have same prices for fuck 85/30 min and 145/1 HR. Das Flores have cabine with shower in the corridor for the 30 min and room with shower for 1 HR. Das Flores is always full of girls, been there 4 times and every nights there are over 30/35 girls. Good line up and good perfomance, girls don't upcharge for anal. For me this is the best nightclub in all Rio. "

Its been kind of our thing to check out the lesser talked about places in Brazil. We did the "Farm" in Campinas and we were rewarded with excellent day action so we rolled the dice again on this place out in the middle of nowhere. Only visited Das Flores, we left Ipanema around 9 pm using Uber and as stated 60 BRL, amazingly we did not have trouble getting a ride so far out of town. Its like 75 min ride West away from everything written about in this forum, LOL. The uber pricing just proves what a good value this service is in Brazil, $12 split between 2 guys. Its a ride so sit back and chill, you pass many small towns and open highway there is a military base close to the club. We arrive around 1030 pm and found the place typical for a blue collar club. Surprisingly, it was clean, organized and spacious, I was expecting a more rough venue. Temperature controlled and really nice experience for the effort involved. About 30 girls more arrived after 11 pm when the club started to fill up. They give you a sheet a paper to fill in your purchases so don't lose it. Beers were cheap don't remember pricing but everything here is excellent bang for the buck. I found about 5 of the girls doable and picked one GND type and at 145/ HR the room, shower and experience was as nice as anything I have had in Brazil. My buddy was happy with his selection as well. The staff enjoyed having us as it seemed outside of locals they don't get many folks from the Southern Zone. My girl asked me why I was there since there were far better clubs in Ipanema. I just laughed and tried to explain the "explorer" mindset but doubtful she fully understood.

Now, would I return. Depends, you are leaving plenty of easy action closer to your hotel, airbnb. But if friends wanted some adventure with a almost guaranteed good time then yes, I would return to the place. No need to arrive before 10 pm. Soon after 10pm was s good time to arrive and scope the place out, girls and enjoy some beers before the club fills up. Don't select because the better ladies arrive soon after the guys.

GF.

Returned from Rio a week ago. Spent 9 blessed days. Here is the recap.

Was joined for a trip by a non-monger friend at the last moment, so didn't get to meet any Rio veterans while there. Looking back, I should've avoided budding up with a non-likeminded individual, but I didn't have a heart to say no. Here are a few thoughts (I won't bother you about some touristy things we did).

Sexual health / mindset.

I'm in my late 50's and not in my prime shape if I'm being honest. Still, I don't know if the 2-year hiatus from my last trip is to blame, but I found that this lull in activities made it even more difficult to me to cum. Took Maca for 1. 5 months prior to the trip, and no considerable improvements. Taking or not taking Viagra didn't make much of a difference either. Basically, when I tried to have sex more than once a day, the second time became more of a chore, and I didn't have enough leche anyway, so it wasn't too enjoyable.

Money.

Copa is the best bet to change money. 5-5. 2 are to $. It was less than 5 in Barra, Centro or Tijuca. My Schwab account offered about the same rate from what I can tell. Used credit cards in stores, restaurants, etc. Use reals in termas, don't pay with credit cards or exchange dollars there.

Hilton is GF now!

A welcome surprise to me was that they do allow guests now. I tried to sneak a girl in first, but the guard caught up with us at the elevator and made me register her at the front desk. Also took her to a pool with no issues. A huge difference compared to 2 years ago. At this point, I can wholeheartedly recommend Hilton. The rooms are a bit dated, but great location, free breakfast and lounge access for Gold / Diamond members, ocean-view rooms and 2 pools open until 8 pm.

Soccer game.

Went to Maracana on Sunday Flamenco vs. Vasco. Flamenco won 1:0. We were sitting in the Vasco section (not wearing their shirts, LOL). Huge police presence and no shenanigans during or after the game.

CPF.

Before the trip, I got the CPF number specifically to get a phone chip easily, and it failed. I think it was the SEP number? (fuck if I remember all that bullshit) that prevented me from completing the registration process. Turned out that even with CPF you can't get the chip unless you're a Brazilian, so I had to go to the fucking TIM store (the Claro line was 10 people deep) and get the chip with my passport and waste 2 hours of my life. Never fucking again! And yes, I know it's supposed to be easy in Centro, but I'the still have had to get to Centro first, so what's the point?

Restaurants.

The most memorable were Marius, Churrascaria Palace (as always), and Gran Parilla, a great Argentinian spot in Barra. Both Marius and Palace are in the $50-60 range and worth it if just for the experience (but the food was superb, too). Contemporanio, on the other hand, was a disappointment this time. Blunt food, and 50% of the menu was unavailable.

Girls.

I took it easy this time around and had a few repeats rather than just looking for a new pussy every time.

Flavia from Solarium, are $800 with a few drinks. Liked that "mignon" a lot, so repeated with her at Bambina motel in Botafogo, then took her back to Hilton to relax at the pool. Highly recommend Bambina. I took their top room with the pool and hydro (R600 for 3 hours), had a lot of fun with her (too much actually, as my condom got torn to shreds, LOL). They have cheaper rooms of course, but fuck it, I'the saved a lot of money staying put in the last 2 years. I thought about Panda, but they wanted 750 for 6 hours, and I didn't need 6 hours anyway.

Sauri from 4 X4. Are $600+ with 3 or 4 drinks. A fun Japanese girl and a firecracker! Refused to let me go until she cummed too. Repeated at the hotel for another great session.

Carol, massagista in Tijuca (and a trained nurse, BTW). Highly recommended despite totally not being my type. She's a big girl (not fat, just big) with excellent massage skills in addition to all other skills (her black kiss is heaven). Are $150 and highly recommended. Repeated with her, too.

[URL]https://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=2642[/URL]

Alice from Onyx Terapia.

I wanted Isis, but she was occupied, so took Alice who also has stellar reviews on Gparena. Didn't regret. There is just something about her making me feel from the get-go like a long-awaited boyfriend, LOL. Are $200.

[URL]https://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=5[/URL]

[URL]http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE[/URL]+GAUCHA&s=257.

Carla from Eden Spa on Nossa Senhora. Loved that girl, but only discovered her on the last day, so no repeat, unfortunately. Highly, highly recommended!

[URL]https://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=538[/URL]

[URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla[/URL]

So here we go. In terms of our never-ending discussion here: yes, I could've saved a few bucks, but it wasn't my priority, LOL. Seriously, there is no such things as a right way or wrong way of doing things, it's just your way and everyone else's.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2680864]Returned from Rio a week ago. Spent 9 blessed days. Here is the recap...[/QUOTE]A nice report, full of useful intel. Thanks for taking the time and posting it.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2680864]Returned from Rio a week ago. Spent 9 blessed days. Here is the recap.

...

So here we go. In terms of our never-ending discussion here: yes, I could've saved a few bucks, but it wasn't my priority, LOL. Seriously, there is no such things as a right way or wrong way of doing things, it's just your way and everyone else's.[/QUOTE]Good job! Thanks for the update.

Yep! Diversity in hobbying POVs, definitely make for a richer landscape.

Thanks good report.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2680864]Returned from Rio a week ago. Spent 9 blessed days. Here is the recap.

Was joined for a trip by a non-monger friend at the last moment, so didn't get to meet any Rio veterans while there. Looking back, I should've avoided budding up with a non-likeminded individual, but I didn't have a heart to say no. Here are a few thoughts (I won't bother you about some touristy things we did).

Sexual health / mindset.

I'm in my late 50's and not in my prime shape if I'm being honest. Still, I don't know if the 2-year hiatus from my last trip is to blame, but I found that this lull in activities made it even more difficult to me to cum. Took Maca for 1. 5 months prior to the trip, and no considerable improvements. Taking or not taking Viagra didn't make much of a difference either. Basically, when I tried to have sex more than once a day, the second time became more of a chore, and I didn't have enough leche anyway, so it wasn't too enjoyable..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2680864]Before the trip, I got the CPF number specifically to get a phone chip easily, and it failed. I think it was the SEP number? (fuck if I remember all that bullshit) that prevented me from completing the registration process. Turned out that even with CPF you can't get the chip unless you're a Brazilian, so I had to go to the fucking TIM store (the Claro line was 10 people deep) and get the chip with my passport and waste 2 hours of my life. Never fucking again! And yes, I know it's supposed to be easy in Centro, but I'the still have had to get to Centro first, so what's the point?[/QUOTE]Nice reports from both you and GoneFishin.

Regarding TIM chip. If you don't have any CPF, go to a Lojas Americanas and buy a TIM chip from the TIM seller who will activate it for you. Another option is to buy a TIM chip on the street and call TIM and activate it (this option needs patience because there the staff answering might not be the smartest).

If you do have a CPF you can very easily activate the TIM chip yourself in just a few minutes. Along with the chip comes instructions. Something like:

[URL]https://planos.minhaconexao.com.br/tim/como-cadastrar-chip-da-tim[/URL]

The place to buy TIM chip isn't at a TIM store as they almost always are out of stock. They sell them at pharmacies, Lojas Americanas, the news paper kiosks or street vendors. In December I paid 12 reais. No need to go to Centro.

I'm definitely not a Mabs fan. IMO it's a sad place with a bunch of very old gringo guys, newbietourist and expensive low quality GPS. I only go there if a buddy insists on having a beer there.

I think an American be Forrester bought the place in 2014. I just heard from a friend that Mabs got new owners. A Brazilian lady and her two sons. It seems they want to earn a lot of money and are raising the prices a lot. With Brazilian logics they don't understand that they will probably get less customer. Anyway, that's just what I heard.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2681100]I'm definitely not a Mabs fan. IMO it's a sad place with a bunch of very old gringo guys, newbietourist and expensive low quality GPS. I only go there if a buddy insists on having a beer there.

I think an American be Forrester bought the place in 2014. I just heard from a friend that Mabs got new owners. A Brazilian lady and her two sons. It seems they want to earn a lot of money and are raising the prices a lot. With Brazilian logics they don't understand that they will probably get less customer. Anyway, that's just what I heard.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I checked out Mabs on a Friday night around midnight in October. I was not expecting much and that is exactly what I got, not much. The place was two thirds empty. There was one sexy girl in the whole place, but she was already with a local guy. It looked like they knew each other quite well. There were a handful of girls standing just outside the bar on the sidewalk and one or two occasionally walked inside the bar. To be kind they were "plain" at best.

I sat down at a table and hung around for about 20 minutes. Then I left. I did not even order a drink. I hung around outside for a little while longer thinking maybe the sexy girl would end her conversation with the guy or maybe some new talent would show up. But nothing changed. I had already been with one of my repeat girls earlier in the night and it was a great session, so I did not really care. I mean if there had been some sexy girls hanging around I probably would have done a 2 fer. But the plain truth was Mabs Had No Viable Girls! Nada. Which is very strange IMHO because the place looks good and has a great location. It should be a rockin' bar with plenty of sexy FL's. Something is amiss, but I don't know what it is. Who cares. It is only a little sad when I hear about how good the area was 10 years ago.

Mini Relationship day 11 - $300 r paid, $900 r / week.

So, I am on day 11 with the same girl, 24/7, for 11 days straight. As I said, it is kind of a staycation / vacation from mongering. I do get burned out. She is great, we are a good fit. 19, petite. She does cooking, cleaning, fucking. We smoke lots of weed. We fuck 2 or more times a day. She likes to hike, she likes the beach.

I pay her $900 r a week. I took her to Rua Alfandega today, and she shopped. I gave her $300 r of her weekly pay, and she totally did not stress about more. Of course, I pay for meals, and she lives here with me. She wants a dog, and she will buy it with her own funds. I might like the dog too. She had found one for $1500 r, but I "thought about it" and she found another for $250 r, which pretty much looks the same to me. So whenever she wants it, I will go and get her dog. When she leaves, she will take the dog.

And so it goes.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2681135]Yeah, I checked out Mabs on a Friday night around midnight in October. I was not expecting much and that is exactly what I got, not much. The place was two thirds empty. There was one sexy girl in the whole place, but she was already with a local guy. It looked like they knew each other quite well. There were a handful of girls standing just outside the bar on the sidewalk and one or two occasionally walked inside the bar. To be kind they were "plain" at best.

I sat down at a table and hung around for about 20 minutes. Then I left. I did not even order a drink. I hung around outside for a little while longer thinking maybe the sexy girl would end her conversation with the guy or maybe some new talent would show up. But nothing changed. I had already been with one of my repeat girls earlier in the night and it was a great session, so I did not really care. I mean if there had been some sexy girls hanging around I probably would have done a 2 fer. But the plain truth was Mabs Had No Viable Girls! Nada. Which is very strange IMHO because the place looks good and has a great location. It should be a rockin' bar with plenty of sexy FL's. Something is amiss, but I don't know what it is. Who cares. It is only a little sad when I hear about how good the area was 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]When I came to Rio 1991 I was very impressed of Brazil. In Rio, specially Copacabana. Almost every restaurant / bar had lots of GPS. Not just Meia Pataca, La Maison etc. All along Copa were restaurants with GPS. Not to mention Help, if you were decently young you picked the girls for free. It took several years before I discovered the fun of P4 P. All of Brazil was full of pussy for free.

If I had went to Brazil for the first time in 2022 I would probably not have dedicated me to Brazil. The monger scene in all over Brazil isn't what it had been. However, I'm still going there. You just have to adapt.

The hottest girl I met at MAB's was in 2020, a gaucha (blonde from Southern Brazil) with her American cop boyfriend.

I got her number and I am recruiting her for the Swiss Navy Intelligence! Because her mouth knows its way around dick.

And her boyfriend has no powers of arrest in Brazil.

Haha.

That said, Mab's sucks, as does Copa generally, as I have said before.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2681135]Yeah, I checked out Mabs on a Friday night around midnight in October. I was not expecting much and that is exactly what I got, not much. The place was two thirds empty. There was one sexy girl in the whole place, but she was already with a local guy. It looked like they knew each other quite well. There were a handful of girls standing just outside the bar on the sidewalk and one or two occasionally walked inside the bar. To be kind they were "plain" at best.

I sat down at a table and hung around for about 20 minutes. Then I left. I did not even order a drink. I hung around outside for a little while longer thinking maybe the sexy girl would end her conversation with the guy or maybe some new talent would show up. But nothing changed. I had already been with one of my repeat girls earlier in the night and it was a great session, so I did not really care. I mean if there had been some sexy girls hanging around I probably would have done a 2 fer. But the plain truth was Mabs Had No Viable Girls! Nada. Which is very strange IMHO because the place looks good and has a great location. It should be a rockin' bar with plenty of sexy FL's. Something is amiss, but I don't know what it is. Who cares. It is only a little sad when I hear about how good the area was 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2680947]Nice reports from both you and GoneFishin.

Regarding TIM chip. If you don't have any CPF, go to a Lojas Americanas and buy a TIM chip from the TIM seller who will activate it for you. Another option is to buy a TIM chip on the street and call TIM and activate it (this option needs patience because there the staff answering might not be the smartest).

If you do have a CPF you can very easily activate the TIM chip yourself in just a few minutes. Along with the chip comes instructions. Something like:

[URL]https://planos.minhaconexao.com.br/tim/como-cadastrar-chip-da-tim[/URL]

The place to buy TIM chip isn't at a TIM store as they almost always are out of stock. They sell them at pharmacies, Lojas Americanas, the news paper kiosks or street vendors. In December I paid 12 reais. No need to go to Centro.[/QUOTE]Lojas Americanas was the first place I went. I got a Claro chip and they started the activation process. It was going fine until the clerk ran into the issue with SEP (The clerk finally said the rep told him I can't use a CPF to activate the chip if I'm not Brazilian.

Next day I went to Rio Sul with my passport. Came to the Claro store, but there was a huge line. Went to the TIM store and they sent me to Lojas Americanas for the chip. I was able to finally activate the damn thing, but it took over 2 hours all in all. Didn't know I could do it all online.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2681334]Lojas Americanas was the first place I went. I got a Claro chip and they started the activation process. It was going fine until the clerk ran into the issue with SEP (The clerk finally said the rep told him I can't use a CPF to activate the chip if I'm not Brazilian.[/QUOTE]Buy one at Lojas Americanas and ask your favorite girl to activate it. She will use her own CPF, I'm sure. All the girls know how to do it. I paid 10 reais for the chip and like Sperto said activating it with a CPF was surprisingly easy. Even if it was the first time for me, it took only few minutes. Then I had to add some credits with my CC. I think not being a Brazilian is just an excuse for not knowing what to do. Every time a computer tech at work tells me that it must be an expired certificate, I’m sure he doesnt know where the problem is.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2681334]Lojas Americanas was the first place I went. I got a Claro chip and they started the activation process. It was going fine until the clerk ran into the issue with SEP (The clerk finally said the rep told him I can't use a CPF to activate the chip if I'm not Brazilian.

Next day I went to Rio Sul with my passport. Came to the Claro store, but there was a huge line. Went to the TIM store and they sent me to Lojas Americanas for the chip. I was able to finally activate the damn thing, but it took over 2 hours all in all. Didn't know I could do it all online.[/QUOTE]Needing to be Brazilian to activate a chip is pure BS. Stupid clerk.

When you buy the TIM chip it comes with instructions on a piece of paper. Super easy to activate it.

Checks your PMs. Sent you one.

Hey everyone,

I'll be moving to Rio next week for work. Would be great to catch-up with the folks that around at some point. The forum has been really helpful so far.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2681377]Needing to be Brazilian to activate a chip is pure BS. Stupid clerk.

When you buy the TIM chip it comes with instructions on a piece of paper. Super easy to activate it.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sperto, live and learn.

Last week I hit Termas 65 with a friend.

Sure the general quality of girls are lower then 4 x4, MC,. But they are not afraid to dance, and make the show. Boucing theirs bundas on your cock.

Another great thing, 2 big places, one with music and loud, and the other to relax.

After looking all the girls, I sit down and enjoy the strip tease show of some girls.

I was spying the guy sit at my left what he was doing on his phone, and he was looking reports on ISG. Jimmieboy was here Good conversation with him about Rio and the scene.

At the end, I choose a very skinny mulata. Very hot, kissing deep immediately, and said to me she likes anal sex (she is 20). On the bed she was crazy as I like. DT very deep and with gagging reaction.

We fuck like a beast, she asks me all the "Fode com Força" so I did it, and I fuck her like an animal pouding her without respect and she enjoyed.

She didn't let me 3 min to rest, she put me back a condom to do anal sex, her sitting down on me. Unfortunately, she couldn't to the size she said, and we didn't take time for a preparation. And all you know how the condom is really bad for anal sex.

I think I will try repeat with her at home with some submissive action.

Well my mini relationship left today, but just for a few hours to get her nails done. We fuck 2-3 times a day, she cocks, she cleans. I paid her $320 today to cover her nails. I did tell her in my bad Porto I would be paying her $900 r a week. I guess the thing I find most appealing about her is that she totally doesn't stress about money, on the other hand, she is very frugal. I was with her at centro the other day, and she got a little angry that I paid $40 r for a new screen protector for my phone, when I could have found one for cheaper.

So, now that I am alone for a afternoon, obviously, I am thinking of going and finding a hooker somewhere, haha!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2681274]Mini Relationship day 11 - $300 r paid, $900 r / week.

So, I am on day 11 with the same girl, 24/7, for 11 days straight. As I said, it is kind of a staycation / vacation from mongering. I do get burned out. She is great, we are a good fit. 19, petite. She does cooking, cleaning, fucking. We smoke lots of weed. We fuck 2 or more times a day. She likes to hike, she likes the beach.

I pay her $900 r a week. I took her to Rua Alfandega today, and she shopped. I gave her $300 r of her weekly pay, and she totally did not stress about more. Of course, I pay for meals, and she lives here with me. She wants a dog, and she will buy it with her own funds. I might like the dog too. She had found one for $1500 r, but I "thought about it" and she found another for $250 r, which pretty much looks the same to me. So whenever she wants it, I will go and get her dog. When she leaves, she will take the dog.

And so it goes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RockasonFive;2681478]Hey everyone,

I'll be moving to Rio next week for work. Would be great to catch-up with the folks that around at some point. The forum has been really helpful so far.[/QUOTE]Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2681517]Thanks Sperto, live and learn.[/QUOTE]Excellent, credence to roll with and live by!

My god! I miss Rio. The P4 P scene in LOS Angeles is like the Cantina in Star Wars: fat, tatooed, entitled ugly ho's, upsell and cat and mouse. $US200 is about the minimum for anyone remotely presentable, and even then with a plethora of conditions and attitude. Sex prison, ugly architecture, lack of green and neurotic people. They now have LASIK clinics for dogs (with homeless people camped out back) and structural inequality that I think is getting near the tipping point. Fucked up society!! I am getting out of that costly shit hole and the USA.

Rio: green, friendly, no hassle and tons of choices with BBCIM, anal, DFK etc for as little as $US8 and a solid performance for an hour for a bit more than $US 20. With THB=USD 33.56 as at today, THB 1000=$US29.79, LOS is a bad deal. The Real is now 4. 66 (did tell ya it was undervalued), luckily I was buying up Petrobas and similar at US1=BR5. 5 last year and nice dividends, basically 15% currency gain in 9 months plus divs, plus appreciation with oil, so IRR pushing 35%. Getting a local trading account is a serious hassle, but worth it. BR offers excellent variety value in ladies and investment, you should thank your lucky stars to be there. If you are bit more adventurous, you can score a really nice, renovated tree house in the mountains / hills near RIO for under $250 k, wake up to birds, good organic food and get a live in cook, maid and / or driver for next to nothing, under $US1,200 a month. On that note, start ditching USD lads. Party is over, lights are on, people are leaving and chairs on tables.

Channeling Vagabundo's favorite Yellow House Bordello in Barra, the lyrics from "Yellow Taxi" come to mind:

Don't it always seem to go.

That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone.

They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.

Ohhh, wah wah.

Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2681928]Please check your PMs. Sent you one.[/QUOTE]Your PM box is full. Clear some space to get new PMs.

First fuck out of the "house" in 2 weeks.

Well, my homegirl had to go get her nails done. This meant I had a window to go hunting for strange pussy for the first time in 13 days.

I was going to go to VM with some ISGer lurkers cool AF bros, but my ride (I use indriver, where I can set the price) kept haggling with me over a few reais, and I was late so we rescheduled. They will be in Transamerica this week anyway.

But then I was sitting there and I zapped (the locals call texting on WhatsApp zap ing) some of my swinger friends, and they wanted some negra tight 20 something ass, so I picked up Monique, and took her by the apartment in Gloria (a block from Love Time), and I showed up and stuck my dick in Seka's holes (as I said she and I fucked for 3 hours when we met, and she took my dick out of her pussy and put it in her ass to milk my leche).

But my friends, I have to say, I was tired af, and out of shape because I have been sitting inside and smoking too much weed and working out too little (my homegirl smokes like a chimney because she likes to mask over the problems she has in life).

OK. So Vagabundo is fucking Seka -- and he can't blow a nut on command. I mean, I fucked her ass for 10 minutes, standing, on some balcony overlooking Gloria harbor and sugarloaf; Then some other sort of ugly morena or at least not as good looking as Seka, sucked me. I must say, her mouth was super, and I think she was turned on because I was facefucking Seka when I walked in the room (Monique was very quickly being spitroasted by two men. Seka's husband is a pharma rep, and yes, we all get tested). Everyone likes black women! So, then I fucked Seka more downstairs, then the party moved up a flight to the penthouse, and fucked callsign Monica Mattos 3, a morena clara who I fucked at the last party, and I fucked her tight asshole.

Yes, the names have been changed, but I have been fucking Monica Mattos 3 since 2015, actually 2013, haha, Monica Mattos Meier, I shall call her.

But here is the thing. There was a fucking line to fuck her ass. And the swing festinha was more crowded. There were like 4 guys who got behind Monica Mattos Meier and fucked her ass, while I had to satisfy myself with fucking her mouth, which I did, for like 40 minutes on and off, and of course, there were other guys fucking her mouth. She has a great mouth, sucks like a champ, but it was hot, and I had not been hydrating (because homegirl doesn't fuck enough, and she smokes like a fucking chimney, plus she has the metabolism of a teenager, and I could be her grandfather). So, I swung around to get behind her sweet tight ass cheeks for my turn, and I could not keep it up!

Yes, Vagabundo is out of porn star training.

I mean I had already fucked Monica Mattos Meier's ass, which I have fucked from Motel Megara to Motel VIPS.

That fucking her ass for like 10 minutes earlier in the night was like heaven.

Well, I could have gone and hydrated more.

But then the little festinha was over. At last Monica Mattos Meier's hour (we pitched in and bought her by the hour because she is a pro, but it was just like $50 r each between 7 guys) was over! Oh well.

I went and found Monique and blew a load in her negra pussy.

On the way home, I asked my new homegirl (Monique has a kid, so I don't prefer her for pernoites anymore because she always has that commitment) if she would fist a branca, and she said yes!

It is almost like most men remember the day that their future wife says yes, I will marry you!

I mean, my new homegirl could well be one of my wives in my harem, as long as we understand, she needs to put her little hands into the pussy of blond's to make my sick lesbo kink fantasies come true!

So, then I come home on an uber (indriver), from Gloria. Homegirl is already at my "casa" IE Transamerica.

This is where vagabundo earns his Lieutenant Commander, Swiss Naval Intelligence pay.

My dick smells like the pussy and mouth and ass of three different women.

So, I go into the service entrance, take the elevator up to the 12th floor, and wash off the smell of that pussy and ass. Then I spray some deodorant onto my balls and pits.

Only then I go downstairs and meet homegirl, who is sitting outside on the curb where we all wait for taxis, ubers, indrivers, etc.

And she is totally cool.

We come back up, and now we are smoking weed and drinking excellent Colorado indica beer -- crossfaded!

You can't make this shit up.

Tonight's Swing Party continued.

Futhermore, so I am fucking the monica mattos meier morena clara, and the last two guys who railed her are black dudes who took forever. Like 10-15 minutes each! But at least I was using her mouth and throat.

And I got in the first ten minutes or maybe it was 7. Up her tight perfect morena clara ass.

The hillside area of Joa has easy access to Pico dos Quatro and Jardim Oceanico metro stations, tree tops and ocean views for the same price as a decent apartment in most major US cities, in my case, have a lap pool and city lights of the evening. Fortunately I own nothing valuable to steal like cash, fancy cars or jewelry (none of that interests me), so I can have girls anytime, easily collected from the Metro station after my favorites hand selected from from Centro. I have not had a chance to use it much, but I'd say 90% of my needs are met, personal gym, BJs on demand, lots of greens and organic food shipped in, trees and views of the ocean plus fresh breeze. Even have a BBQ. With cheap, direct flights to Europe (COVID! I can surf one day, have orgies, and enjoy Milan and skiing the next. I'm sick of masks, especially on planes that are probably far more viral vector healthy in terms of low humidity and air exchange compared to much else in life. Sao Paulo has excellent health care for a price better than Europe, as opposed to the USA that is a total predatory scam (it's health care is like P4P: low quality, full of code words and stings, disinterested. greedy providers going through the motions, and expensive). I heard that because of demand, there is a waiting period for people ditching their USA citizenship (global taxation scam with no corresponding representation unless lobbyist and utterly corrupt congress owned by the financial sector, roughly 40% of GDP depending on definitions).

My only regret is not finding this lovely patch earlier and still having to commute from USA. I feel like a grinning schoolboy, doing one girl mish anal, legs high over my shoulders, red stilettos, and thigh high black stockings (the way I like 'them). I have her friend behind rubbing my balls and ass and kissing my neck while I pound the other girl, the whole time in what is like a private jungle. I take my time thesedays, learning to to take many breaks rather than goal orientated cumming. So halfway, I take a swim, a snack, then a two girl massage and final scrotum massage and kissing, a bit more action, and so on. I like kissing one and getting a BJ, then getting them to switch. And of course my patented wake up BJ in bed with coffee. I helps the girls to have daily tonsil massages. I'm not counting pops anymore, just memorable, earth shattering experiences in the wider sense, nature, food, sex, intellect. Porto language remains an issue, but fortunately I found a local big titted, sporty nordic type with passable English that is a good cook, makes great salads, arranges and does duplas and tosses my other salad!! Life is good.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2681857]My god! I miss Rio. The P4 P scene in LOS Angeles is like the Cantina in Star Wars: fat, tatooed, entitled ugly ho's, upsell and cat and mouse. $US200 is about the minimum for anyone remotely presentable, and even then with a plethora of conditions and attitude. Sex prison, ugly architecture, lack of green and neurotic people. They now have LASIK clinics for dogs (with homeless people camped out back) and structural inequality that I think is getting near the tipping point. Fucked up society!! I am getting out of that costly shit hole and the USA.

Rio: green, friendly, no hassle and tons of choices with BBCIM, anal, DFK etc for as little as $US8 and a solid performance for an hour for a bit more than $US 20. With THB=USD 33.56 as at today, THB 1000=$US29.79, LOS is a bad deal. The Real is now 4. 66 (did tell ya it was undervalued), luckily I was buying up Petrobas and similar at US1=BR5. 5 last year and nice dividends, basically 15% currency gain in 9 months plus divs, plus appreciation with oil, so IRR pushing 35%. Getting a local trading account is a serious hassle, but worth it. BR offers excellent variety value in ladies and investment, you should thank your lucky stars to be there. If you are bit more adventurous, you can score a really nice, renovated tree house in the mountains / hills near RIO for under $250 k, wake up to birds, good organic food and get a live in cook, maid and / or driver for next to nothing, under $US1,200 a month. On that note, start ditching USD lads. Party is over, lights are on, people are leaving and chairs on tables..[/QUOTE]I thought I had it bad here in Chicago! I hope Rio is the answer!

I went to Vidigal last week for a girl's birthday. When I went to order a new Uber to return to my hotel, my friend was looking at my phone and she saw me giving the previous driver a tip. She asked what I was doing and I said I was giving him a 5 R tip because it was only 1 dollar to me. I asked how much she tips and she said nothing, she just rates the driver by how many stars she gives. It turns out on her Uber app, they are not prompted to give tips, only ratings. Thats interesting that the brazilian Uber does not suggest tip amounts for the ride.

Another typical American rip-off: prolly Uber takes a card / transaction percent of the tip as well as the fare component (naturally 100% opaque), or *ALL* of the tip, because you **assume** it tips the actual driver, not the platform, and the drivers are powerless. More silicon valley swindling at its "finest". Same with restaurants, currency exchange (ALWAYS decline US offering because it is a shit rate), and make sure you use Schwab or Capital One (or interactive brokers / [URL]IBC.com[/URL]) cards to avoid rip-off 3% transaction fees (and ATM fees) and shittier FOREX rates. Better still, get a BR bank account and wire in via OANDA and don't feed the fat, government sponsored (corporate welfare) lazy US banks. Every dollar saved from those useless corporate welfare panhandlers can be used to invest or spend on pretty women who bring pleasure to us. Very interesting how they have different rates for US card prefixes, apparently a lot of the dating sites (like CUPID) have similar multi-pricing scams, as in 80% if you use a BR address. I've also used VPNs and found huge price deltas in airlines and especially hotels.

In RIO I give the smiling girls cash, even after being pounded up their tight butts for 20+ minutes (and I'm cursed with girth and length, and yes some Thai chicks have said no, and some put a pad in their cervix, and good BJ / DT can be an issue, so be careful what you wish for). Fortunately, most BR ladies happily accommodate and several have no gag reflex and swallow straight down. Always happy to tip extra in cash and set the example to assist fellow brothers. BR is somehow a lot more open and relaxed about sex and it's women just better in bed than many other places. Anal mostly seems to be accepted as normal.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2682175]I went to Vidigal last week for a girl's birthday. When I went to order a new Uber to return to my hotel, my friend was looking at my phone and she saw me giving the previous driver a tip. She asked what I was doing and I said I was giving him a 5 R tip because it was only 1 dollar to me. I asked how much she tips and she said nothing, she just rates the driver by how many stars she gives. It turns out on her Uber app, they are not prompted to give tips, only ratings. Thats interesting that the brazilian Uber does not suggest tip amounts for the ride.[/QUOTE]

Sad to say, but this actually understates the situation. One side of this unsymmetrical situation will have to give. Let's hope it is in the direction of the US moving towards Brasil and not the opposite.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2681857]$US200 is about the minimum for anyone remotely presentable, and even then with a plethora of conditions and attitude.
[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2682229]Another typical American rip-off: prolly Uber takes a card / transaction percent of the tip as well as the fare component (naturally 100% opaque), or *ALL* of the tip, because you **assume** it tips the actual driver, not the platform, and the drivers are powerless. More silicon valley swindling at its "finest". Same with restaurants,[/QUOTE]In the US the other day the appeals court upheld the decision of the workers versus Salt Bae. The service charge paid to a restaurant is not the same as a tip and goes to the restaurant, not the servers.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2682175]I went to Vidigal last week for a girl's birthday. When I went to order a new Uber to return to my hotel, my friend was looking at my phone and she saw me giving the previous driver a tip.[/QUOTE]You didn't have any problem with the Uber driver going up in Vidigal? In January we went to a churrasco party in Vidigal. When ordering the Uber it showed the correct address in Vidigal (quite deep into the comunidade). However, the driver refused to go up into Vidigal and let us off at Praça do Vidigal. He said normal Ubers were not allowed to enter Vidigal. As I refuse to go with moto-taxi we ended up walking in heavy rain to our destination. When leaving the party they told us we had to call one of Vidigals own Uber drivers, but it turned out none was available because of the rain. We had to walk down to Av Niemeyer and get a normal Uber.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2682316]You didn't have any problem with the Uber driver going up in Vidigal? In January we went to a churrasco party in Vidigal. When ordering the Uber it showed the correct address in Vidigal (quite deep into the comunidade). However, the driver refused to go up into Vidigal and let us off at Praa do Vidigal. He said normal Ubers were not allowed to enter Vidigal. As I refuse to go with moto-taxi we ended up walking in heavy rain to our destination. When leaving the party they told us we had to call one of Vidigals own Uber drivers, but it turned out none was available because of the rain. We had to walk down to Av Niemeyer and get a normal Uber.[/QUOTE]They can only enter to a point and then we had to take a moto to Bar Laje. Same process coming down, moto, then Uber.

How accurate is this? I am planning a trip in May. I hope I don't have to do the test before I fly.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-eases-covid-related-restrictions-international-travelers-2022-04-02/[/URL]

Thanks Mr. E, as always astute.

Tips have the deliberate legal ambiguity: to whom do they beneficially belong, or what was intended by the giver ? To the individual server, a pool of servers, maybe kitchen staff, or even the employed owners ? Or as a risk transfer paid by end consumers ? Similar to wages theft and non-transparent pricing to snare the unwary.

I doubt any of the BR Uber drivers will be going to court to recover this gouging that they probably have diluted or never receive at all. Not surprised to hear about the decision, lawyers and the judiciary are ultimately footmen and butlers (who mistakenly think they are players) to the real power holders.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2682273]In the US the other day the appeals court upheld the decision of the workers versus Salt Bae. The service charge paid to a restaurant is not the same as a tip and goes to the restaurant, not the servers.[/QUOTE]

Vagabundo went to the pool today, where he hit the bags and swam and lifted a little, and met up with a few ISGers who had been to 4 x4 but were trying Transamerica in Barra. We added a few new folks to the local whatsapp group, and suggest they join Internationalsexguide. NL. I am still wifed up with homegirl who has stayed with me for 2 weeks.

Thursday, Centro, Warning order.

Let's do a centro prive / terma run ([URL]massagemtijuca.com[/URL], [URL]Darkroom.com.br[/URL], [URL]4x4class.com.br[/URL]), and maybe mosaico. 12 h30, lets meet at the cinelandia Starbucks, 2nd floor. Confirm on Thursday morning.

Message senor nounce, senor Jimmyboy, or senor Michaelsamuel to be added to the list for this pussy patrol.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2682582]How accurate is this? I am planning a trip in May. I hope I don't have to do the test before I fly.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-eases-covid-related-restrictions-international-travelers-2022-04-02/[/URL][/QUOTE]I fly in a couple of weeks and I haven't seen anything official as of yet. It would be nice because up till now all you had to do was just say you were uninsured and the tests were free back in the ole USA, I guess the funding ran out so I guess it will be an insurance copay or something, but it's no sweat if all Brasil requires is proof of vax. I guess it's going to suck for the anti vaxxers; however.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;2683154]but it's no sweat if all Brasil requires is proof of vax. I guess it's going to suck for the anti vaxxers; however.[/QUOTE]Nope. Only sux for those that don't have a vaccine card.

I have a one week trip planned for Rio at the end of April. Planning to say in Copa and I've been scrolling through the past 30-40 pages and have probably only seen one mention of Barra the Tijuca. Is there anything out there worth spending a day on? Only mention I saw was of a place called "Asha."

[QUOTE=Evx69;2683776]I have a one week trip planned for Rio at the end of April. Planning to say in Copa and I've been scrolling through the past 30-40 pages and have probably only seen one mention of Barra the Tijuca. Is there anything out there worth spending a day on? Only mention I saw was of a place called "Asha."[/QUOTE]In my opinion no, only if you are scared of your own shadow.

It's too far away from the action and only has one 'terma'.

It's been updated on the State Dept's advisory for Brasil. Funny how I would take 2 tests, just in case one didn't come back in time. CVS managed to lose a test once, so I guess human error is always there. But no more of that dumbs hit test taking.

I seen Gabi from NiterI is not working, too bad. She might be too big for some guys but just right for me. What I like about her she has no limits, and a huge ass. She give the best blowjobs, swallow every drop and can take on some monstrous twinkies in her ass. Going to miss her.

Just finished a month in Rio. This is my second visit to Brazil. I spent one week in Centro and the remaining time in Copa. I visited the following establishments:

Termas: 4 x 4, Solarium, Monte Carlo.

Prive: Eden Spa.

Each visit to a terma winds up costing $200 - 300. More value in the prives, however the girls are more attractive in the termas.

Food is mediocre here. Steaks are always overcooked, unless you go to a churrascaria where they know what they are doing.

Any of the decent hotels are expensive, close to $200 per night. Most are not girl friendly.

Had fun and enjoyed the sun and warm weather but will not be coming back for a third visit. Returning to Colombia where there is more value between the girls, hotels and food.

[QUOTE=FlowState985;2682582]How accurate is this? I am planning a trip in May. I hope I don't have to do the test before I fly.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-eases-covid-related-restrictions-international-travelers-2022-04-02/[/URL][/QUOTE]It's accurate. But when in doubt, it's better to go to the source: [URL]https://www.in.gov.br/en/web/dou/-/portaria-interministerial-n-670-de-1-de-abril-de-2022-390351794[/URL].

Another good source of info is a USA Embassy. [URL]https://br.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Playboy2021;2684048]Just finished a month in Rio. This is my second visit to Brazil. I spent one week in Centro and the remaining time in Copa. I visited the following establishments:

Termas: 4 x 4, Solarium, Monte Carlo.

Prive: Eden Spa.

Each visit to a terma winds up costing $200 - 300. More value in the prives, however the girls are more attractive in the termas.

Food is mediocre here. Steaks are always overcooked, unless you go to a churrascaria where they know what they are doing.

Any of the decent hotels are expensive, close to $200 per night. Most are not girl friendly.

Had fun and enjoyed the sun and warm weather but will not be coming back for a third visit. Returning to Colombia where there is more value between the girls, hotels and food.[/QUOTE]Hi. I have also a rio tryp scheduled, but I'm considering visiting Colombia, due to all recommendations. How can we exchange numbers?

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2683909]In my opinion no, only if you are scared of your own shadow.

It's too far away from the action and only has one 'terma'.[/QUOTE]Transamerica not worth it?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2677744]lets just go to sleep.[/QUOTE]We wake up late afternoon. We both feel exhausted and so we stay in and order something from rappi to be delivered to us. It's nothing special, just some cheap steaks with rice and beans. As we eat in silence I reminisce of our last meeting in SP in November.

SAUDADE DE SAMPA.

It is November and I wake up in Sao Paulo. The night before I was in Scandallo celebrating with three other trusted forum members I can call true friends. The clock strikes midnight and we celebrate as I share a birthday with one of my fellow brother in arms. A bottle of tequila is ordered and we take shots in the middle of the dance room of scandallo. This is my first time tasting liquor. I end up taking 8 shots one after another. I am in a different continent, in the biggest city on that patch of land, in the biggest and best club in that city with friends I made just two months ago who flew out to celebrate this moment in time. Life is good. Just the week before I was in a head on car accident that I somehow walked away from mostly unscathed while my beloved steed was crushed and totaled, he did his job and I will live for the both of us. Our celebration attracts attention and my fellow birthday boy finds himself a piece he likes. She happens to have a sister who also joins in the fun. The bottle goes empty and our spirits high! The sister starts talking with me as we begin to explain why we are celebrating. It seems they are ready to take each of us out for the night to commemorate our birthdays. Funny enough the night before at Cafe Photo, My brother and I took two girls out who were friends that came down from campinas the same day. Seems we share the same taste in women as we do birthdays. As a birthday gift I talk with the girls and ask if they would do a dupla with my friend and sure enough it's on the table. So I arrange it and pay for the other sister to go with her sister and treat my brother to the ever so elusive sister threesome. They looked so similar that they could have been twins to be honest! Harley was waiting for me in the morning and my brother's girl cancelled on him at the last minute and I would not stand for this so I did the next best thing so he too can have a tale to tell. Only in scandallo. What a night.

I wake up the next morning in my hotel room, surprisingly without a hangover. I get ready for harley and she arrives at 10 am. I surprise her with a big ass teddy bear, flowers, chocolates and some photo prints from our last trip. She melts and we immediately pick off where we left off. We head off to asturias and we get the biggest room they have. It's super nice with a heated pool and a retractable roof. The bedroom is decent but the mirror set up could be better. We play some music over the bluetooth speakers and start having fun. I recently got on PrEP (this is what most experienced members use to avoid STDs, look it up and use it on your next trip) so this time around we end up doing BBFS. I feel like a roman senator as I sit on the edge of the pool with the waterfall crashing into it as my Germanic pet services me as I drink from a glass of wine with the classical fresco art on the wall. We have a blast in the pool and eventually a song starts playing that my lover begins to sing along to. I pick her up and spin her around gently as we dance to this melody she sweetly sings to me. With the sun hitting the stain glass roof, my view is a heavenly one. We drink, smoke and fuck for the next 5 hours. My fellow brothers in arms had arranged for us to go to SEEN which apparently is one of most difficult bar / restaurants to get in because it's always packed and you have to reserve at least one week ahead of time. Luckily one of them has connections and we are able to score a table. So we order some pizza from the front desk to sober up and off we go. We arrive and wait a bit to get seated and views are great! Food is awesome and we order some champagne. We all toast the night and our luck. The two non birthday brothers congratulates us as they head off to find their adventures at the boates. Birthday bro and I split the check and our girls are ready to dance. Harley suggests SUTTON a nice rooftop club. Also very difficult to get into but we try our luck and get in with no issues! Finally a club that plays american music and not just brazilian funk. We drink and dance the night away as I throw harley all around the dance floor. Another couple notices our energy and the girl begins to make out with harley and ask if we're down to swap. These brazilians kkkk. We decline and dance for the next 4 hours. We end up leaving with the sunrise at 5 am. We didn't end up using all of our included drinking cover so we haul a big bag of drinks to our hotel. We stumble to our hotel at 6 am and grab a shower and some shower sex. We don't sleep until 7 am. 21 hours of pure non stop fun. I wake up at noon to pack up and get ready for my flight. She wakes up at 4 pm and we're back at it. One last ride before my flight. We share our goodbyes and promise to meet up again on her birthday. What a adventure that will be I think.

BUZIOS.

Our last day in Arraial was just a stay in day. We just sat by the balcony and pool area. Night rolled over and we just quietly spent the night away getting ready for tomorrow. I decided to keep moving forward to buzios as I honestly really wanted to see what the hype was about as many forum members have praised this place. I already traveled 3. 5 hrs and it would be a shame to get so close and not reach my destination. The next morning we get picked up by the girl who runs the ondaarraial business to take us to our airbnb in buzios and then go horseback riding on the beach. Really interesting girl as she speaks english, spanish and porto. We end up talking about many things since I haven't spoken english in so many days. The weather gets bad and so we end up just dropping off our bags and getting a bite to eat at a nearby cafe. The airbnb was something else. It had a bar with a huge pool overlooking the beach below and a hot tub on the second floor next to our room. It was like a ibiza villa. We lounge around the huge estate and settle in and drink up the views. Night comes and we head off the a circus that's in town. VIP seats are 35 BRL so we get front row seats. We get pulled in some acts and she's loving it. We get some snacks during the intermission which I later learned was a mistake. The show is over and the night goes well. She laments how she used to be an actress at local theater productions and used to do some circus performances. Brought back lots of memories. We head off to praia do canto where there are many shops and restaurants. It's a pretty upscale place with lots of argentine people speaking spanish and english. We grab a bite before heading back home. Harley gets another stomach ache from the circus food. Shame but what could I do.

The next morning I get up to enjoy some breakfast while harley is still recovering. I head downstairs and meet another american. We chat and talk about work life and how unreliable some girls can be. His brazilian friend joins us and we all take some shots of expensive whiskey at 10 am in a high rise pool overlooking praia the ferradura. They rented a buggy and invite me to go on a boat ride since the brazilian owns a boat renting company. I grab my stuff and tell harley I'll be back late and off I go. We ride around the town like we've been friends for 2 decades and not only for 2 hours kkkkk. Other brazilians and argentines pass by us in their colorful buggys, 4 x4's and ATVS with funk music and laughter blaring from their rides. It truly is a beach town getaway. We stop by a local street market to get some fresh juices and food, delicious. Next stop is the ferradura beach to get some laps in and burn those calories. It's full of upper class brazilians and argentines families so super safe and no funny business. We head off the pier and hop on our boat. As luck would have it, it's the same boat I was supposed to rent out for harley and I for the 14th. We ride off in search of land and honey. We end up at praia joao fernandinho. We anchor near the beach and have our food delivered to us by paddle board. Not too long ago I thought I would have another uneventful day yet here I was partying with some new friends drinking, eating and enjoying life as one should be. I fly my drone and grab some nice shots of this great moment. We cruise along the coast as we all talk about what lies ahead of us in the future. How funny life can work sometimes and all those little things that led us here. We all toast our new friendship and speed back to land. I rush back home trying to keep this high going and meet harley after being away for 8 hours. I tell her everything and she's glad I had a nice time. The american mentioned a great restaurant nearby and we set sail. Our waiter seats us and I order in english and get the biggest steak they had. She orders in porto and gets the octopus. Our waiter takes our menu and tells us it will be ready soon in spanish. Truly a great city for expats. It's our last night so we share a couple of stories and laughter like we did back in sampa. We head back to our villa and at this point I had a few shots of whiskey, a bunch of sodas, juices, steaks, beef and some other stuff in between that my stomach was hurting but the show must go on. Even with my gluttonous appetite I perform at top level as always. The vigor of youth. Sometimes I forget I'm the american and she's the brazilian as she really resembles margot robbie. She made a tiktok account and posted a few harley quinn videos of herself and 65 K other people also thinks she's the brazilian harley quinn as well. You know what they say about the crazy ones.

The next morning we both get up and get breakfast. I introduce my new friends to harley and over breakfast we find out we're all headed back to Rio so we decide to get a private SUV and head back together in the afternoon. I love it when a plan comes together. As a photographer it was only a matter of time until my skills were exploited and I end up taking photos for my new friends around the villa. For my trouble, my new brazilian friend gifts me a tourmaline gem necklace. This country and the people here are TOP, as they say kkkk. Since the villa is 3 minutes away from the beach, harley and I go to the beach and enjoy one last memory together. We buy some food and drinks and get a small row boat and enjoy the buzio scenery one last time.

We arrive to rio after a 3 HR drive and grab a quick bite. After some quick research, harley gets the next bus back to SP and I head back home to return once again to the place that always lives up to it's name. Cidade Maravilhosa.

EPILOGUE.

Did the trip go exactly as I planned? No. Did I still have a good time? Surprisingly yes.

It's weird in a way. When I don't plan things somehow it works out for me. When I do plan, it falls apart.

The first trip with harley to rio was a very last minute suggestion. We booked our flights at 2 am and arrived in rio at 9 am and spent the next week in paradise.

This trip we had schedule 3 weeks in advance and well you know how it goes.

I'm reminded by a line from a book my english teacher would lament from time to time.

"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".

We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, highschools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.

So as I stood in copacabana beach on a Monday night with the sand between my toes and the waves crashing all around me, I remember that Friday night I spent with a wild redhead branca I just met a week ago at that exact same spot. We had just come back from lapa and were in high spirits. She fell from her lime scooter and got a nasty cut and bruise on her shoulder and she could care less. We were dancing to the samba music playing from one of the stands nearby and were laughing on how badly spoke in each other's native language. We were just two people that forgot the pitfalls of life for a brief moment and basked in it. In that moment disconnected from this timeline we're forever dancing and laughing the night away because the sun never comes up.

But in this one there are no happy ever afters, there is only the morning after. When we have to go back home, back to work and back to reality.

Life's a ***** and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.

But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but theres a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks. ".

There was some loss of monetary value but in it's stead a time was captured that I can keep forever after everything else goes away.

Maybe I'm wrong tho.

Because we all know money is finite and our time is infinite after all.

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2684355]Transamerica not worth it?[/QUOTE]Never been but the ladies off Barra VIPs were quoting ridiculous prices, between 600-900 per hour.

I know there is a "Living" section but it doesn't seem to get much traffic, so I figured I would ask here. I am looking to purchase a house in Rio by the end of the year. (Phallus gave me a great tip on the area where he has his home). I think one of the biggest issues I am facing in deciding Where in Rio I would like to live. I don't think I want to be in the middle of the tornado in Copa, but I don't want to be more than 40 minutes away in case I want some action and I don't want to spend more than 150 k dollars. I was hoping I could hear some feedback from members who actually purchased property as to why they chose the area they live in.

I have looked in Recreio, Jacarepaguá, Niteroi, Ilha do Governador and Barra. I even talked to some locals about moving into Vidigal or Babilônia.

Buying Property in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

1. To buy or not to buy, that is the question.

My view is do not buy property in Brazil. Rent. The reason is geopolitical risk. Russia and America are at war, and Brazil is neutral. Fucking gringos is the main source of GDP and income for the GDPs and all the Brazilians in the GDP supply chain, including realtors. You want to be able to put all your trash in a bag and GTFO, even if you stay here for the rest of your natural life which lasts 100 years. That said.

2. If you buy property in RJ.

See the attached map. This is the most important map in Rio. This is the metro map. This is how most.

Cariocas get around.

1. Metro Jardim Oceanico. Search for places as near to Ave de pepe 400 (Perola Negra), or Olegario.

Maciel 7 (Na Brasa Colombia) as possible. PN is the best terma in Rio IMHO. We had a great night.

There last week, super talent, super hot negra from Rio, super hot morena from Minas. The talent.

There goes back and forth with 4 x 4. Good rooms, including a BDSM suite. Walk to the metro to go do.

The centro prive thing. Beach is clean, and is where the girls from PN will come before work. The metro.

Station is new since Bubba wrote his guide in 2013, and it is the driver of economic and social growth.

I do recommend staying at the Infamous Transamerica, IE, Mediterraneo condo, Av Gastao Senges.

395. Other similar condos that run a luxury bus to centro include Riviera, Novo Leblon, Barra Bali.

Barra Mares, and others whose buses can be seen hourly at Av President Wilson 147 in Centro. The.

Bus is key as it reduces transportation cost, and it makes you a upper class person compared to the.

Unwashed, poor masses, ie, the working girl classes whom you, as the upper crust, fuck. You want to be.

Part of the upper class in Brazil!

[URL]https://www.associacaomediterraneo.com/[/URL]

Av Gastao Senges 395, Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, RJ.

[URL]https://www.condominiorivieradeifiori.com.br/riviera/[/URL]

Av. Prefeito Dulcídio Cardoso 2500.

Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, RJ.

[URL]http://novoleblon.com.br/[/URL]

Are. Rino Leví, 255 - Barra the Tijuca.

[URL]http://www.barrabali.com.br/[/URL]

13.000 the Avenida das Américas, próximo ao Barra World Shopping e ao Supermercado Mundial [URL]http://www.barraleme.com/hoteis/Barramares/barramares.htm[/URL].

Av. Lúcio Costa, 3300 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22630-010.

Barra First Class.

[URL]https://www.plazahoteis.com.br/barrafirst/pt-br/[/URL]

Av. Das Américas, 7897 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22793-081.

Edifício Alfa Park [URL]https://foursquare.com/v/52cafc22498e55561e597dc2[/URL] Av. Lúcio Costa, 6400, Rio de Janeiro, RJ 22793-926.

Barra Malls Guide.

Fair.

Guanabarra supermarket has a mall, with the best pricing on groceries.

Barra Garden is closest to the famed Transamerica (av gastao senges 395).

Here is a guide to Barra Malls by Vagabundo, who aspires to be a Bubba Boy Buttman (see Internationalsexguide. NL for that famed user).

Senor Nordico wanted to know where the fair (the street market) is. This is a legit question, and I will answer it and other questions about Barra Malls here.

First, the Tuesday morning street fair is just next to the Barra Garden shopping center, near the gas station, where the Riviera condo intersects with Ave das Americas. I go there to get Salmon for 110 r a kilo (compared to 100 r for. 4 kilos in the pricey market). What does this have to do with whoring?

Well, I have a girl with me for like pernoite 4 or 5, and she hasn't asked for money, but I feed her, and we do the churrasco together on the balcony.

Across the street is the best sports store, Decathalon, which is where I recommend you shop for your trip to Rio or Brazil. This is where you can get the sandals you can shower and fuck in Villagemall is just down the main street, Av das Americas. This has the best high end rich demographic.

Selection -- apple store, super luxury movie theaters, very nice restaurants.

Barra Shopping. Further down Ave das Americas, this is the main shopping center, with a statue of Liberty, sitting there like a allusion to planet of the apes, and perhaps too to City of God, which may intersect, thematically.

Ave Olegario Maciel 7 (Na Brasa Colombia) counts as a mall too, as the whole street is a high end shopping district. This is at Metro Jardim Oceanico, and it is near the best terma IMHO in Rio, Perola Negra. PN is Ave de Pepe 400.

Paris Cafe is further down towards Recreio, and further still in that direction is Praia Abrico, and even further past Praia Abrico is Cafe Marambaia, where the best Paella in Rio can be had.

2. Botafogo. Search for places at or near Rua Sao Clemente 114, close to the best sex motel, Panda.

Then you can take the metro to centro and take the bus to Solarium, and all the wealthy, upper middle.

Class districts between botafogo and PUC, where you should take Portuguese if you stay long enough.

1. Botafogo is the real, upper middle class, but mixed race carioca the gema neighborhood. You should.

Also consider Flamengo, Largo do Machado, and even Catete.

Do not stay in Copa. Copa is dangerous, the water is dirty, basically a toilet bowl. Criminals go to Copa to find victims. Be the bat, not the ball. Most board members have different views about Copa which is kind of times square compared to Barra being Miami.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2684697]I know there is a "Living" section but it doesn't seem to get much traffic, so I figured I would ask here. I am looking to purchase a house in Rio by the end of the year. (Phallus gave me a great tip on the area where he has his home). I think one of the biggest issues I am facing in deciding Where in Rio I would like to live. I don't think I want to be in the middle of the tornado in Copa, but I don't want to be more than 40 minutes away in case I want some action and I don't want to spend more than 150 k dollars. I was hoping I could hear some feedback from members who actually purchased property as to why they chose the area they live in.

I have looked in Recreio, Jacarepagu, Niteroi, Ilha do Governador and Barra. I even talked to some locals about moving into Vidigal or Babilnia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2684647]Never been but the ladies off Barra VIPs were quoting ridiculous prices, between 600-900 per hour.[/QUOTE]Them Reais?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2684697]I know there is a "Living" section but it doesn't seem to get much traffic, so I figured I would ask here. I am looking to purchase a house in Rio by the end of the year. (Phallus gave me a great tip on the area where he has his home). I think one of the biggest issues I am facing in deciding Where in Rio I would like to live. I don't think I want to be in the middle of the tornado in Copa, but I don't want to be more than 40 minutes away in case I want some action and I don't want to spend more than 150 k dollars. I was hoping I could hear some feedback from members who actually purchased property as to why they chose the area they live in.

I have looked in Recreio, Jacarepagu, Niteroi, Ilha do Governador and Barra. I even talked to some locals about moving into Vidigal or Babilnia.[/QUOTE]I have no property in Rio, but I've helped several friends who have bought apartments, houses and land in Rio. If I understand you right you need a house (not apartment), costing no more than 150'000 USD and less than 40 minutes from Copacabana. In Zona Sul you won't have many choices that fills all those criterias.

Vidigal and Babilônia could be good options. There are some really nice houses with great views in Vidigal but I doubt 150'000 USD will get you any of the nicer houses. Babilônia and Chapéu Mangueira also have some nice houses. There are big houses with great ocean views in the lower part of Babilônia, but those are too expensive. In the upper part of Babilônia there are lots of smaller houses with great views. There are some disadvantages with those houses in the upper part of Babilônia. Just stairs to get there (no road or moto-taxis), plenty of mosquitos because of the forest and a bit risky because of when one gang enter the favela to fight with controlling gang they usually enter by the forest in Babilônia and Chapéu Mangueira. I've seen plenty of properties for sale in both Vidigal and Babilônia, be prepared for some crazy prices.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2684697]I am looking to purchase a house in Rio by the end of the year. [/QUOTE]Why did you decide to buy versus rent?

[QUOTE=Ptgbac;2684715]Them Reais?[/QUOTE]Yes reals.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2684813]Why did you decide to buy versus rent?[/QUOTE]Are we still talking about Brazilian real estate or are we talking about marrying a Brazilian escort? LOL.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2684697]...I was hoping I could hear some feedback from members who actually purchased property as to why they chose the area they live in....[/QUOTE]I have no experience. But I will rent for a few months or even a year if necessary to see if I like the location. The problem I see purchasing property in SA is they are very illiquid.

Another way I will look at it is to estimate how many years I will stay in the property, then make cost comparison vs renting. The advantage of renting is you can live in newer place and move around whenever you want.

The way I probably will do it is to have a property elsewhere like US but it would cost more. Then use the rent income to rent property in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2684618]..SEEN...[/QUOTE]I think it is easier if you go earlier and is ok sitting at the bar, then wait for a table if one is available.

Furthermore, to my points.

1. Buy or Rent.

Every one, especially foreign nationals who live in Rio, need to be prepared for the following scenario. You go to Bradesco, and your card doesn't take money out, and your phone won't work. Then you go back to your hotel safe or the inside pocket of your pack, and you have to buy a ticket at the airport, or maybe rent a new apartment in Rio for cash, better if you appear as a Rio fireman and or professor of English at some respected institution.

What is a more powerful weapon of mass destruction? Shutting down access to your money or.

Have a plan.

2. If you buy.

Niteroi. First time I came to Rio (trip 1 of 27, and 27 may be forever), I stayed with a rich investment guy and his kid who invited me in a gated community in Niteroi in a big ass house with a white haired mister mom who cooked well, and did Natal and Ano Novo in the Inga (district in Nitero) two story penthouse apartment with tons of hot ass nieces, there for the ass grabbing and fucking in side rooms, and in the beach house out on the coast across from Niteroi where the super rich (by local standards) buddies of the investment guy in their houses had fireworks (fogos) contests in the hours leading up to new years when Copa, across the mouth of stinking guanabarra bay shot off their wad of 15 minutes of orgasmic air bursts. Every day investment guy and his daughter and their guest would take a nice, scenic boat ride across the pond (g bay) to Praca XV, 250 meters from 4 x 4, Cais do Oriente, where Investment guy had a office, somewhere there, also within 500 meters of Praca XV, a regional water transportation hub, including to Paraty, etc. So, there are your search parameters. Look at all the ferry stops on the Niteroi side, and walk around 250 meters.

Also, for condos in Barra, like Riviera, Re / max had a realtor. So search for Re / max, ask for a realtor for Riviera.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2684713]Buying Property in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

1. To buy or not to buy, that is the question.

My view is do not buy property in Brazil. Rent. The reason is geopolitical risk. Russia and America are at war, and Brazil is neutral. Fucking gringos is the main source of GDP and income for the GDPs and all the Brazilians in the GDP supply chain, including realtors. You want to be able to put all your trash in a bag and GTFO, even if you stay here for the rest of your natural life which lasts 100 years. That said.

2. If you buy property in RJ..[/QUOTE]

Buying Property in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, part 3.

Also, pricing?

You are searching for $150 k USD or less?

That is a lot of money.

I was quoted 200,000 BRL for two units at Transamerica. The units come in large and small rooms. So, for example, 1510.1 and 1510.2 are one unit, with. 2 small, and. 1 large. So, the maintenance guy a former army guy who fought druggies with the police and showed me the bullet wounds, pitched me on, hey live in one, and rent the smaller one.

I mean, 200,000 BRL is (or in 2021 with the exchange rate at 5.8 was) like 40,000 USD, and I could throw that on a business card even without a mfkn Brazilian CPF and bank account.

I mean 300,000 BRL should buy a lot of condo out in Recreio.

150,000 USD should buy a lot of condos, and or management in a building.

I mean, I brought top tier powertools with me, vice and drill, but again, that is force of habit.

That said, look at what happened to Brazil in World War 2. Brazil was key. But it played both sides, sent Generals to Germany, sent soldiers to fight with America. Rio might have been a great place to be, almost certainly was. Of all the megacities in the world, my view is Rio would be the safest place in the world to be in a major geopolitical era, which we are clearly in.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2684713]Buying Property in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

1. To buy or not to buy, that is the question.

My view is do not buy property in Brazil. Rent. The reason is geopolitical risk. Russia and America are at war, and Brazil is neutral. Fucking gringos is the main source of GDP and income for the GDPs and all the Brazilians in the GDP supply chain, including realtors. You want to be able to put all your trash in a bag and GTFO, even if you stay here for the rest of your natural life which lasts 100 years. That said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2684997]The way I probably will do it is to have a property elsewhere like US but it would cost more. Then use the rent income to rent property in Brazil.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent idea. The only disadvantage is that the USA Rental income will be taxable and of course the Brazilian rent expense is not.

I own property in the USA. It has been a pretty good deal with tax incentives. I have paid off the mortgage and the value of my home has more than tripled since I bought it, but home ownership still carries with it a lot of financial responsibilities and requires constant upkeep. If you aware of these things and you plan to stay in a place for the next 10 years then real estate is a good investment.

But personally I would shy away from buying real estate in a foreign country. It is easy to get in, maybe not so easy to get out. Plus we have all seen how the Brazilian currency fluctuates over 10 years. An asset denoted in BRL is subject to this risk. Something to consider, but if you plan to live in Brazil or spend a lot of time here then I suppose there are worse things you can spend you money on. Barra would probably be where I would look for a nice 2 br condo if I wanted to live in RJ.

200,000 is 66 months of 3000 brl monthly rent so 5.5 years. I've lived here for 2 years. I don't trust Brazil enough to assume 5. 5 years. Or do I?

That is the math.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2685095]Buying Property in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, part 3.

Also, pricing?

You are searching for $150 k USD or less?

That is a lot of money.

I was quoted 200,000 BRL for two units at Transamerica. The units come in large and small rooms. So, for example, 1510.1 and 1510.2 are one unit, with. 2 small, and. 1 large. So, the maintenance guy a former army guy who fought druggies with the police and showed me the bullet wounds, pitched me on, hey live in one, and rent the smaller one..[/QUOTE]

Of course, I could rent out the smaller unit, often getting 2000 to 3000 reais per month. But I hate being a landlord. But this would make it interesting, very interesting.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2685115]200,000 is 66 months of 3000 brl monthly rent so 5.5 years. I've lived here for 2 years. I don't trust Brazil enough to assume 5. 5 years. Or do I?

That is the math.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2685115]200,000 is 66 months of 3000 brl monthly rent so 5.5 years. I've lived here for 2 years. I don't trust Brazil enough to assume 5. 5 years. Or do I?
That is the math.[/QUOTE]Rent.

Unless: this is your endgame -- or -- you can walk (or run) away from it without a second thought.

That is the reality.

And with renting, you can get something nice and big, not with your budget a little squat with view of other apartos.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2685103]This is an excellent idea. The only disadvantage is that the USA Rental income will be taxable and of course the Brazilian rent expense is not.[/QUOTE]Probably higher property tax too, also the fee to have someone manage it for you. What you get in return is it is easier to convert it to cash or just get a loan in US. There are other countries you can do this because 150 K can get pretty high end property elsewhere that you can charge a premium. But it is a hassle to deal with it when you are retired.

Hello everyone,

Hope you all are enjoying the heat.

It's been long time posting on ISG.

I had lots of fun in India but recently shifted to Ireland.

I have a work related trip in Rio in 3rd week of May & will be staying in Barra Tijuca area.

It would be great if the experts can guide me for some nice places to enjoy. I'm into Massages, Full service fun, Dance, Nudism, Swinging and lot more.

I read about Termas (I assume its something like a Dance bar or Strip club) but most of them seem to be far from my hotel.

I'm part of Nudist group here in Ireland, so would like to know if there are any in Rio.

Also, if anyone knows about any Swinger Parties happening like we have here in UKI through Fab swingers.

Thanks in advance!

Looking forward to all of your ideas & guidance!

[QUOTE=SameeRonaldo;2685412]I'm part of Nudist group here in Ireland...[/QUOTE]Interesting, an Irish nudist group. I'd like to have the sunblock concession.

I met her on a second dip at dolce vita at 2:30 am, I spent some days with her, asked her to run away with me, we had a blast, love these milfs. When they get to their 30's they start to look for an exit strategy. An older guy like me looks like a good option, I've seen this over and over again in recent years, this one was tough to let go.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2685604]I met her on a second dip at dolce vita at 2:30 am, I spent some days with her, asked her to run away with me, we had a blast, love these milfs. When they get to their 30's they start to look for an exit strategy. An older guy like me looks like a good option, I've seen this over and over again in recent years, this one was tough to let go.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of this one I found in Sao Paulo (she wouldn't allow her [B]very[/B] pretty face to be seen sorry).

Excellent information Sperto though I already pounced on a jungle hide away in Joa. Close to the subway. I can have my girls delivered or sent away for a tiny cost. I wake up for a morning threesome. Or alone. Just as I please. Breakfast in bed is a small ritual. Contrary to Vagabundo, the Real was and is undervalued and so is Brazil relative to the USA. I swapped out at about R5. 5< USD1 last year and am sitting on 15% currency gain on some choice real estate that is also up as a result of asset inflation in the good stuff and the disproportionately rising boats those that play in that class of stuff. Barra is very suburban, too much concrete, roughly Miami. I hate malls, brutalist towers disconnected by roads and the ilk. Probably I sound like a snob, but the truth is that there is a threshold you throw o the table to get to before you bypass the shitty ROI of retail and its collapsed CAPEX. I have not done the math yet, but I'd guess I'm up about $US300 k since last September for not doing much, plus a big dollop of lady luck. Certainly not brains from say inventing a new protein or physics application. Just bought in during COVID and a stupidly devalued Real that was fairly obvious.

Brazil is quite diversified, aircraft to oil and large pools of skilled human capital, 1st world health care, fertile land and water and a semblance of equality and opportunity. It's much more than some drunk gringos (aka cheap charlies) in Copa.

USA has severe internal problems and risky currency that will implode the second China and Russia create a new currency to settle oil contracts in. LA has is own favelas and slums everywhere, wicked drug abuse, a fucked education system, racism, ignorance, broken health care system and surveillance economy. Lawyers have also fucked the place, either as a congress parasites or operational extortion artists. Role models are not engineers, scientists or risk takers (applause for Elon Musk here) but sports players and manufactured images like Kardashian making big bucks posting about going to the toilet. It's very sad but true. I'm nostalgic about old NYC and Boston and the many great things we did, but 98% are entitled trash that are so stupid to vote against economic self interest and are ignorant. It is also sex prison as I previously outlined. It's the USA you want to be flexible about, able to pack up and get out, have options to reside elsewhere and hedge the currency.

I will be looking carefully at what Sperto suggested (THANKS). The one thing I am yet to solve is getting a really good Thai vigorous massage, I might see if I can find someone who does that and can double up as a driver, prep cook and maid, but keep it asexual and pay them well so they look after their meal ticket. God, how did I become so cynical. Seriously, has anyone found a provider of serious, deep tissue massage, no funny business ? That's what is missing so far. I can have a couple of girls waiting to have their tonsils massaged (with a special secret method) after my back and legs.

So you bought a house in joa but you don't live full time in Rio?

The average Brazilian company spends 2 months a year just calculating -- calculating, not paying -- their taxes.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2685664]Excellent information Sperto though I already pounced on a jungle hide away in Joa. Close to the subway. I can have my girls delivered or sent away for a tiny cost. I wake up for a morning threesome. Or alone. Just as I please. Breakfast in bed is a small ritual. Contrary to Vagabundo, the Real was and is undervalued and so is Brazil relative to the USA. I swapped out at about R5. 5< USD1 last year and am sitting on 15% currency gain on some choice real estate that is also up as a result of asset inflation in the good stuff and the disproportionately rising boats those that play in that class of stuff. Barra is very suburban, too much concrete, roughly Miami. I hate malls, brutalist towers disconnected by roads and the ilk. Probably I sound like a snob, but the truth is that there is a threshold you throw o the table to get to before you bypass the shitty ROI of retail and its collapsed CAPEX. I have not done the math yet, but I'd guess I'm up about $US300 k since last September for not doing much, plus a big dollop of lady luck. Certainly not brains from say inventing a new protein or physics application. Just bought in during COVID and a stupidly devalued Real that was fairly obvious.

Brazil is quite diversified, aircraft to oil and large pools of skilled human capital, 1st world health care, fertile land and water and a semblance of equality and opportunity. It's much more than some drunk gringos (aka cheap charlies) in Copa..[/QUOTE]

Yes, if you plan to visit Ireland, do check their events and attend.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2685526]Interesting, an Irish nudist group. I'd like to have the sunblock concession.[/QUOTE]

Since September last year on my 3 week visit: look at FLBR, LND, Petrobas and the FOREX. The charts tell the story. It seemed mad that Real was over 5.5:1 USD and an hour of casual, retail, mind blowing sex could be reliably had for under $40 late last year and a Caipirinha on the beach for $USD 2. Vagabundo pointed me to Jardim Oceanico station and how this connected distant parts of Rio to Centro and SDU etc that connects airports, business and women to lifestyle. One sunset, walking on the Copa beach at the waterline, my cheap Sandisk MP3 player streaming out depeche mode, I thought "I only live once, this is stupidly cheap, pretty groovy, travel will go back to normal soon".

I did tell ya! Toshiba is currently good buying (France and UK on nuclear splurge and (soon) Germany too) and an Aladdin cave in high quality Russian stuff and commodities. Wheat and Potash for next year. It's the USD that worries me. Fat tail land (the currency, not the American women). Mongers should do good (distributing $ to beautiful women and their natural renewable resources) by doing well. I offer tonsil massage daily.

As to BR taxes: hire large firms that specialize in it and the usual string of company shells. It's very easy, you just pay for it, a bit like picking a girl at a terma. They can also sort a chop in your passport with no lines or bullshit.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2685864]I did tell ya! Toshiba is currently good buying (France and UK on nuclear splurge and (soon) Germany too) and an Aladdin cave in high quality Russian stuff and commodities.[/QUOTE]This is a good idea. I believe Toshiba has significantly backed away from the nuclear energy business the last several years. EDF in France might be poised to benefit. Of course, if you buy EDF stock you would be partnering with the French government.

The Western industrialized nations have to get off their energy idealism and accept that more nuclear power is necessary if you want to reduce carbon emissions and have a healthy economy. China is building many nuclear plants. Just be smart about emergency safety systems. Don't build a nuclear power plant near a fault line or a tidal wave zone.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2685864]Since September last year on my 3 week visit: look at FLBR, LND, Petrobas and the FOREX. The charts tell the story. It seemed mad that Real was over 5.5:1 USD and an hour of casual...[/QUOTE]What if you just buy oil related assets. Does it perform better or worst? I did mentioned OXY when Covid started. LOL. I think currency only matters if you hold it in cash. I know someone who trade currency for a living and he is doing well. He is free all the time but his strategy is very event driven that he would tell me at certain time he had to leave to go back to his place to wait for an announcement or news.

Bombeiro Vagabundo, Swiss Navy Retired, now a licensed Realtor in Barra the Tijuca, is like the Realtor in Local Hero, taking applications from all freckle faced Irish ladies with a bad case of sunburn on their balls! My hedge fund, Vagabundo Capital, LLC, owns a illiquid stake in certain Brazilian bars designed to develop Honeypot assets for the highest bidder, which we develop from the base of Barra Posto 1, and extend to Metro Sao Cristavao, where Callsign Jimmy Boy brings in the best SP hookers from Moema prives to be sold, ass up, face down, for Sheiks!

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2685864]Vagabundo pointed me to Jardim Oceanico station and how this connected distant parts of Rio to Centro and SDU etc that connects airports, business and women to lifestyle. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2685902]I think currency only matters if you hold it in cash.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if I understand exactly.

Of course, currency matters in investment holdings besides cash. I believe PahllusMaximus has recently said his property in the Joa neighborhood has appreciated in both local terms (Reals) and in currency terms (Dollars).

[QUOTE=RioBob;2685604]I met her on a second dip at dolce vita at 2:30 am, I spent some days with her, asked her to run away with me, we had a blast, love these milfs. When they get to their 30's they start to look for an exit strategy. An older guy like me looks like a good option, I've seen this over and over again in recent years, this one was tough to let go.[/QUOTE]The "MILF" category is definitely one that is often overlooked and you've definitely cash-in on this latest terrific MILF find.

Certainly not difficult to see why, you had a hard time with this "catch-and-release", especially if there was a good connection. Pretty good for an [I]"older guy"[/I].

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2685932]I'm not sure if I understand exactly.

Of course, currency matters in investment holdings besides cash. I believe PahllusMaximus has recently said his property in the Joa neighborhood has appreciated in both local terms (Reals) and in currency terms (Dollars).[/QUOTE]What I am saying is that if you own hard assets, then you will be affected less by inflation vs holding it in cash. The assets can be a house or stocks of companies that have assets, like oil companies.

My experience is that it is easy to invest and move money in US. You can still invest in Brazil if you are in US. I am not sure the reverse is true. Does Brazil financial market has more offerings than US? US citizens pay tax on worldwide income so it does not matter where you park you money for tax purpose.

I did not want to complicate the matter so I did not mention property appreciation. Axel Heyst has mentioned the appreciation of his property. I personally haven't heard about appreciation close to his in South America. Some see appreciation but the appreciation is offset by currency depreciation so there is no gain. Right now, I know the properties in my US home area are sold within a week after listing and over list price by a huge amount. The broker will buy your house if not sold. That is the liquidity I am talking about.

Currency is a claim on a country's assets, all of them, stocks, bonds, property, tanks, ships, guns, hooker's asses, and land.

BRL has been moving due to.

1. end of covid.

2. war making Brazil a source of commodities cut off by war.

Experienced real estate guys in Copa say their Italian friends are buying the shit out of copa property.

So that is in favor of buying property.

But again, my view is that unless you live in it full time and have top flight local lawyers on call, and you are prepared to lose the capital, you should rent, not buy. My smartest ISGer friends like fukafmedig said the same thing. Rent even if on a 30 month lease, and if you need to GTFO, break the lease and GTFO.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2686009]What I am saying is that if you own hard assets, then you will be affected less by inflation vs holding it in cash. The assets can be a house or stocks of companies that have assets, like oil companies.

My experience is that it is easy to invest and move money in US. You can still invest in Brazil if you are in US. I am not sure the reverse is true. Does Brazil financial market has more offerings than US? US citizens pay tax on worldwide income so it does not matter where you park you money for tax purpose.

I did not want to complicate the matter so I did not mention property appreciation. Axel Heyst has mentioned the appreciation of his property. I personally haven't heard about appreciation close to his in South America. Some see appreciation but the appreciation is offset by currency depreciation so there is no gain. Right now, I know the properties in my US home area are sold within a week after listing and over list price by a huge amount. The broker will buy your house if not sold. That is the liquidity I am talking about.[/QUOTE]

Wow that is exactly how I feel after my visits to Sao Paulo. I took the risk, went by myself to a place everyone told me was too dangerous, made love with beautiful women and now I am in USA working for several more years. Butt I have the memories.

"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".

We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, high schools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.

So as I stood in Copacabana beach on a Monday night with the sand between my toes and the waves crashing all around me, I remember that Friday night I spent with a wild redhead branca I just met a week ago at that exact same spot. We had just come back from lapa and were in high spirits. She fell from her lime scooter and got a nasty cut and bruise on her shoulder and she could care less. We were dancing to the samba music playing from one of the stands nearby and were laughing on how badly spoke in each other's native language. We were just two people that forgot the pitfalls of life for a brief moment and basked in it. In that moment disconnected from this timeline we're forever dancing and laughing the night away because the sun never comes up.

But in this one there are no happy ever afters, there is only the morning after. When we have to go back home, back to work and back to reality.

Life's a * and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.

But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but there's a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks."

There was some loss of monetary value but in it's stead a time was captured that I can keep forever after everything else goes away.

Maybe I'm wrong tho.

Because we all know money is finite and our time is infinite after all.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2681955]I went and found Monique and blew a load in her negra pussy.
[/QUOTE]Hey Vagabundo1,

Any chance you share Monique's contact info? Sounds exactly what I'm looking for. I'll be in Rio only for 2 nights (business trip) and don't want to waste my time looking for the right girl.

Hit me up by PM if you like.

Thanks,

Dw.

Cash is trash these days. Commodities and real companies, such as productive gold / copper mines, manufacturing specialties like semiconductors and agriculture is where it is at. There are a few plays in retail real estate, but that is a a proxy for the bond market and retail speculation joint venture. Collapses of 1991,2002, 2008-2010 all come to mind. Detroit and Gary, Indiana were once sexy times. Catching the wave has risks if you are playing the greater fool game. The most successful are a few slumlord funds buying up tract "housing" in really depressed cities and then screwing the inhabitants with a plethora of fees etc to drive up the CAPEX. Payday loans with an effective rate of 600% are another, quietly supported by the major banks. That and private prisons are something I'm not going to play in.

There are opportunities with limited supply "trophy" houses where there are simultaneous currency dislocations, Brazil being one and Turkey another. To play this game, you have to price out the herd, usually pay cash, preferably a distressed sale (rare) and be patient. This is not "flipper" bullshit that describes the bank sponsored, capital gains tax free real estate casino in the USA. As to the latter, taxation (by deliberate legislative design) is mostly only for W2 earners and indirect taxes. US citizens and stuff like FACTA makes nomadic life hard, but also able to be worked around by an entire cottage industry of lawyers and accountants.

Vagabundos new fund sounds exciting. Presumably the local girls can rub sunscreen on our balls and BJ's on the beach at sunset, fresh caipirinha in hand and admire the blue rollers and sea breeze. A good way to "blow" your capital. By the way, when V refers to GTFO, where to exactly ? I'd hardly describe the USA as a safe haven, confiscation in that place is quite real such as state sponsored extortion racket known as contingency lawyers (often on billboards), divorce, IRS, etc etc.

Indeed, you only live once. Epicurus said it far better than I can: Non fui, fui, non-sum, non-curo ("I was not; I was; I am not; I do not care" The best trade is snatches of joy that come and go. It is a fool that thinks they can one day live in a perpetual paradise (cue grey haired couples on a beach for a retirement village ad or Hawaiin time share scam) or be the richest man in the cemetery. Youth is wasted on the young. And it can all end tomorrow with cancer, stroke, heart attack, car crash, etc, and it absolutely will come for each and everyone of you reading this. We are doomed but live in hope.

We chase beautiful women, alive with youth and have the rare gift of freedom to bang them. There are many other things to have fun with. Investing in optimal mental and physical health, experiences and memories is what life is all about whilst we are here. Done the right way, we are living the dream, whilst it lasts.

Pretty funny, monger-philosopher, but all of us here are ultimately chasing fun and human connection.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2686145]Currency is a claim on a country's assets, all of them, stocks, bonds, property, tanks, ships, guns, hooker's asses, and land.

BRL has been moving due to.

1. end of covid.

2. war making Brazil a source of commodities cut off by war.

Experienced real estate guys in Copa say their Italian friends are buying the shit out of copa property.

So that is in favor of buying property.

But again, my view is that unless you live in it full time and have top flight local lawyers on call, and you are prepared to lose the capital, you should rent, not buy. My smartest ISGer friends like fukafmedig said the same thing. Rent even if on a 30 month lease, and if you need to GTFO, break the lease and GTFO.[/QUOTE]If one can predict war with 100% accuracy, then one can make money in many ways, a huge amount of money that this discussion does not really matter.

Just to clarify, my original post is not against buying properties in Brazil or against investing in anything. I am talking about being able to covert it to cash and be able to move it internationally quickly. My perspective is based on my personal past experience. I have been benefitted by property purchase so to me it is a positive. Although it does not always go up but when it goes down, it never goes below the previous high even in 2008. That is enough for me until that experience changes.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2686252]Just to clarify, my original post is not against buying properties in Brazil or against investing in anything. I am talking about being able to covert it to cash and be able to move it internationally quickly. My perspective is based on my personal past experience.[/QUOTE]Having "liquidity" or access to the cash value of one's assets must always be considered as an important part of one's investment strategy. Now, I for one won't be investing in any property in Brazil or anywhere else overseas. I've made that firm decision. No. I'll stick to doing that at home, and will otherwise do as others have suggested. That would be fly in, rent or lease a place for my time there (wherever "there" might be), enjoy the hell out of myself, and then GTFO exactly when I'm good and ready. No sooner and no later!

Marquez, Memories of my Melancholy *****s.

Torres, Fim.

Amado, The Two Lives of Quincas.

Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls.

Why these books: Memories is about a 90 year old who orders a teen from his favorite madam for his 90th birthday. Fim is about 5 carioca men in 1969 in the reverse order of their deaths, begging whether one wants to be the fit volleyball player who fucks teens and takes vitamin V until his death by heart attack or some other variety of life. Two Lives is about a respected middle class tax collector who at 50 leaves his family of 'vipers' and goes and lives another decade in a working girl house until his happy death whereafter his real friends parade the body to the docks where they celebrate with hoars. Whom is about two days of an American in the Spanish civil war with his teen girlfriend before a fight with Russians.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686240]Indeed, you only live once. Epicurus said it far better than I can: Non fui, fui, non-sum, non-curo ("I was not; I was; I am not; I do not care" The best trade is snatches of joy that come and go. It is a fool that thinks they can one day live in a perpetual paradise (cue grey haired couples on a beach for a retirement village ad or Hawaiin time share scam) or be the richest man in the cemetery. Youth is wasted on the young. And it can all end tomorrow with cancer, stroke, heart attack, car crash, etc, and it absolutely will come for each and everyone of you reading this. We are doomed but live in hope.

We chase beautiful women, alive with youth and have the rare gift of freedom to bang them. There are many other things to have fun with. Investing in optimal mental and physical health, experiences and memories is what life is all about whilst we are here. Done the right way, we are living the dream, whilst it lasts.

Pretty funny, monger-philosopher, but all of us here are ultimately chasing fun and human connection.[/QUOTE]

I cannot predict war.

I am a technical trader.

My basic position is neutral with a option collar on indexes like S&P 500 (ticker SPY), Nasdaq 100 (QQQ), MSCI Emerging Markets (EEM).

When things get oversold or overbought on our indicators, we do a reversal.

I've made my best trades on the WIFI in the sex motels of Rio out of a 40 pound or less backpack on trips that start at one month, then extend to 3, then 10.

As with the banker who dreamed up BRIC because he wanted Brazilian Bunda to be a write off, I have done the quant work showing EEM has the highest volatility, and I sell volatility, like a butt obsessed photographer at Carnival, aiming by gopro up the ass of the tightest anal passage of the best passissta -- call it the samba school of option trading.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2686252]If one can predict war with 100% accuracy, then one can make money in many ways, a huge amount of money that this discussion does not really matter.

Just to clarify, my original post is not against buying properties in Brazil or against investing in anything. I am talking about being able to covert it to cash and be able to move it internationally quickly. My perspective is based on my personal past experience. I have been benefitted by property purchase so to me it is a positive. Although it does not always go up but when it goes down, it never goes below the previous high even in 2008. That is enough for me until that experience changes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2686252]Just to clarify, my original post is not against buying properties in Brazil or against investing in anything. I am talking about being able to covert it to cash and be able to move it internationally quickly. My perspective is based on my personal past experience. I have been benefitted by property purchase so to me it is a positive. Although it does not always go up but when it goes down, it never goes below the previous high even in 2008. That is enough for me until that experience changes.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't buy real estate in Brazil unless I was living there most of the time and fairly certain where I wanted to live. As you alluded to, real estate is a relatively illiquid investment.

On the flip side, I have owned Brazilian stocks and one can own Brazilian-focused funds if they want to benefit from growth in the Brazilian economy. If one wants to have a true investment exposed to the Real, you need to invest in truly domestic companies. Vale, Petrobras and other commodity-oriented are likely to track global commodity prices not what's happening specifically with the Brazilian economy and currency. There are many Brazilian companies with domestic businesses listed on the NYSE including many Brazilian banks.

What a wonderful essay, WW!

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2686158]Wow that is exactly how I feel after my visits to Sao Paulo. I took the risk, went by myself to a place everyone told me was too dangerous, made love with beautiful women and now I am in USA working for several more years. Butt I have the memories.

"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".

[/QUOTE]

Sound comparative literature on the theoretical aspects of mongering by esteemed Vagabundo.

As WW points out, memories matter. My 2c: invest in health, mental and physical as the best investment you can have, as the value of $ falls to zero when you die, nor will be around to see others enjoy it. I always crack up watching old people use it as a weapon to buy the illusion of love and attention for a vague afterlife promise versus the real love and gratitude they might get helping in the here and now. Basically they don't trust their claimed beneficiaries loyalty, which means they have nothing real. I enclose a cartoon from 70 years ago on topic. Let's not become miserable old men dangling honey for touch by the hour and nothing else on offer.

If you want to be loved, be loveable. Sounds corny but it's true.

That's not to say P4P is incompatible with happiness, but it is a side dish to the main course and needs to be sandboxed. WW's description of low expectations, wild dancing and beach is charming, organic and made me smile. So did the point of amazing stories and feats never starting with accountant type analysis, usually built on flawed assumptions and psychic intangibles not being weighted properly or at all. I cannot wait to be back in Rio and see what all the photos of construction translates to. One thing for sure will be my blondie Nordic, E sized tits, athletic who happily swallows, smiles and winks at me. Speaks passable English too. I'm yet to see her in a bikini in the waves. No contest between USA bristling with homelessness and neurosis versus Brazil.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2684618]"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".

We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, highschools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.

...

Life's a ***** and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.

But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but theres a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks.[/QUOTE]Fantastic observations! Life is indeed an adventure. Even when we don't get what we wanted to, its still a learning.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2686240]Indeed, you only live once. Epicurus said it far better than I can: Non fui, fui, non-sum, non-curo ("I was not; I was; I am not; I do not care" The best trade is snatches of joy that come and go. It is a fool that thinks they can one day live in a perpetual paradise (cue grey haired couples on a beach for a retirement village ad or Hawaiin time share scam) or be the richest man in the cemetery. Youth is wasted on the young. And it can all end tomorrow with cancer, stroke, heart attack, car crash, etc, and it absolutely will come for each and everyone of you reading this. We are doomed but live in hope.

We chase beautiful women, alive with youth and have the rare gift of freedom to bang them. There are many other things to have fun with. Investing in optimal mental and physical health, experiences and memories is what life is all about whilst we are here. Done the right way, we are living the dream, whilst it lasts.

Pretty funny, monger-philosopher, but all of us here are ultimately chasing fun and human connection.[/QUOTE]100% agreed. I'm going to look that quote up.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2686264]Having "liquidity" or access to the cash value of one's assets must always be considered as an important part of one's investment strategy. Now, I for one won't be investing in any property in Brazil or anywhere else overseas. I've made that firm decision. No. I'll stick to doing that at home, and will otherwise do as others have suggested. That would be fly in, rent or lease a place for my time there (wherever "there" might be), enjoy the hell out of myself, and then GTFO exactly when I'm good and ready. No sooner and no later![/QUOTE]I bought properties out of necessity. The unintended consequence is that I bought in the right area and benefitted from the decision. Also because I had mortgage which is a leverage so a small down payment with large return in cases like mine.

Now if I used the same leverage and invested in a single stock, I am pretty sure I could make a lot more if I picked the right stock. Just to leverage everything you have in one stock is a very difficult to do while most of us don't have the same concern buying a house.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2686270]I cannot predict war.....[/QUOTE]There is a Tesla investor named LEO KoGuan. I read that he made billions trading only Tesla. I would not do it if he had told me to do it like him. LOL That is kind of the point I am trying to make.

I used to trade but I know I could not make close to what I can earn from my job because I [B]diversified[/B] too much and bets often went the wrong way. Trades just washed each other out and became a distraction for me while I have a full time job. Nowadays, I only trade during big event that happens rarely because I can make money after the event but I still have my limitation.

Another monger showed me how much he made the last few years. The number over a longer period is larger than the number posted by PM. I think I could have done the same but that is out of my mental limitation because I would not make big enough trade to make that kind of number.

Easter Sunday Carnival WTF.

So, you have this cognitive dissonance. Easter Sunday is today. Anne Amari went home to celebrate pascoa, after 3 pernoites for 600 reais plus food yesterday. But Carnival started. It goes to 24 April. Carnival is a religious holiday. So, it is really a secular tourist advertising event.

Anyway, feliz pascoa and happy carnival.

They celebrated end of summer 2 weeks ago.

There are stranger things in the world which are not computing, but this bizarre situation is what it is now in Rio.

On the subject of this board, hoaring, I think after the contrived carnival, then the girls drop their prices and the buyer's market commences for a solid 8 months.

Hallallujah indeed.

There are all sorts of angles. For example, pro traders like [URL]IBC.com[/URL] crap all over the "retail" bullshit with margin lending at about 2. 5% for 70% leverage. Don't worry about short term, use IRR or a mod Dietz to measure currency, dividends and gains / losses. Buy a mixed bag with great yield, Annaly Capital, Petrobas, and Japanese industrials etc where net yield exceeds carry cost. The USA is all about credit: other markets have no easy margin. It's cash down. As Vagabundo points out, markets often overreact that creates a mispricing that various options can be used. Its 144 A derivatives where the fun begins and what is called carry trade, borrow in currency X and earn in currency Y.

I never worry about get rich quick BS. As long as my game 16% annually I'm happy. Why? Because the rule of 72. Take a given rate. Put into 72. That's how long it takes to double in value. Thus 10% doubles roughly every 7 years. So my $ doubles every 4. 5 years (actually faster but I will not bore everyone on exponential math and reinvestment avalanche). Right now I'm into Russia, South Korea, South Africa, Japan, Brazil and China. 2/3 rds are unlisted companies or private club deals. Diversify: what is called non-correlated risk buckets. I have to track all the currencies etc but have some really nifty database tools that gives me really good intel, and I usually get about 20% a year since 1992. Been quite a ride. The Asian currency crisis basically set me up. Quality Thai and other companies sold at stupid prices. Also, read Nick Taleb to understand how all the MBA types and pseudo math babble are full of shit, and this includes the finest names in Wall Street that are corporate welfare queens. Lastly, if your mom cannot understand it, then there is a fool in the game, and most likely you.

It's just abstract shit. If you are unhappy, don't sleep well or are overweight / sick or worry about status you have already lost the battle. This is why a serene home, morning BJ and good workouts are needed.

Well said, Senor PM.

Tonight, I did a swing festa. I fucked the meier morena clara in the middle of a swing party. I came on her ass, after fucking her ass, and her mouth. After a while it's just sex, the banality of sex, so I won't bore you with the details, but I really ploughed her hard, went from doggy style to just pounding her into the mattress, right up that tight ass, in front of a room of swingers, on a mattress, overlooking gloria beach and sugarloaf. I've been fucking this morena clara since at least 2015.

So, then I hit up the ISGers, and found a wingman, TBoy to go out to VM. We met at Gloria Metro, then metro-ed to Sao Cristavao. We walked into VM, and the street girls offered some good talent. This is how I went in with Chocolateluvr, who was a great wingman. TBoy is picking up porto, though. We walked past Mosaico. Monica Mattos Mosaico was on the veranda. We did not go in. We went to VM. Talent was weak.

It is Easter (Pascoa). After Christmas (Natal) in this Christian country, this is the major religious holiday. Even hoars go to their families and celebrate. We pagans go hoaring. Haha (or not funny, depende).

The disconnect is that Carnival Mardi Gras is the traditional blow off before the Easter season. But now due to Covid, Carnival has been rescheduled to coincide with Easter. This makes no sense to the Christian calendar, and as such, to most Brazilians who are on that religiously driven calendar. But anyway, Vagabundo got some new numbers. He texted one new VM contact, and she replied stick it up your ass (vai tomar see you). Oh well, it must have been my shitty Porto. We walked over to Motel Malaga. Motel Malaga is the best love motel near VM, and as such should be known to the savvy pussy hunter.

So Vagabundo got his nut off. TBoy is a good wingman (or spotter to those of us on the ground side).

When you come into Rio if you want good wingman / spotters, be a good wingman / spotter: have a decent cell phone, have a data plan, and watch your wingman / spotter to protect against cell phone theft which is the main threat. TBoy is all of that, so thanks.

Senor PM, you are truly a scholar, that Latin you quoted still has me contemplating life, and you are right. Carpe Diem. Seize the Day. Memento Mori. Remember you will die, indeed, you could die today. On that subject, VM and its surroundings is dangerous. We did not backtrack. We came in the northern route, and left the southern route. I got the vibe that the locals were spotting us for targets, the most likely scam being oh, you took pictures on your cell phone, so they send security to seize your cell phone. It didn't happen tonight, but it did when we were at the Superbowl Mosaico event several months back. To that threat, I carry a flashlight with a taser, which as a rule I have in one hand when I have my cell phone out in the other. It also helps to signal cabs.

Speaking of which indrivers canceled from picking up at Copa / Siqueira Campos, another reason I hate Copa. I finally got a taxi, and it was 75 reais, whereas indriver was quoting 30 reais. But the swing fest was cheap, and I blew a load, and we had a good patrol. So, it all worked out well to be a good night.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2687120]If you are unhappy, don't sleep well or are overweight / sick or worry about status you have already lost the battle. This is why a serene home, morning BJ and good workouts are needed.[/QUOTE]

I will be in Rio in June, I will only have time for a massage. Where should I go for the best looking and most fun?

[QUOTE=Derdeered;2687238]I will be in Rio in June, I will only have time for a massage. Where should I go for the best looking and most fun?[/QUOTE]Checkout the Reports of Distinction (RODs) thread, for some places of interest.

A recent excellent first time report from by DrAxxx, may provide some answers, for good massage joints. Search for the link in the RODs and/or check early March, 2022, in this thread.

Went tho Mosaico this Saturday night. Arrived at around 4 am cause I was crazy horny at home LOL. Chatted with two girls and one guy who was waiting for his friends roaming around at VM.

Did an one hour with Dani (white girl with redhead hair, got a couple tattoos, including a "bon appetit" on top of her ass, have fucked her a couple times before, all bareback but with no finishing inside her). Haven't seen her in around 2 months. She didn't let me bare fuck her too much cause she was mad at me LOL, ended up giving her a massive facial, unfortunately no pics. Once in a while there are some great talent there, it sucks this Saturday it wasn't that crowded.

A Nossa Drogaria must have the cheapest tadafil in RIO. I paid 7 reis for 4 x 20 MG. 20 MG is the highest dose they sell and I bought it and didn't know what to expect. I am 34 and do not really need it depending on how many times I session in a day. I did notice a lot of side effects from that dose. Headache, strong heartbeat, feeling more easily out of breath, stomach issues and so on. These side effects I do not notice as much with same dose of sildenafil. So I will not be buying 20 MG tadalafil again. Now I have bought daily Cialis 5 MG instead at same place, 11 reis for 28 tablets. They are basically giving them away. I hope I do not get side effects from this smaller dose. Cialis is preferred because you do not have to plan you intake like with Viagra that only last for a couple of hours and takes 1 hour until it starts.

Tuesday, Vagabundo went to a swing festa in Gloria.

Monique has become popular, and she sucked off all the regular guys, and is not taking it up her tight 25 year old ass.

There is no loyalty among hoars and the hoar mongering mongers who monger them and offer them to others.

So after the little swing festa, Vagabundo walked up to centro.

Some ISGers were at 65, where they were sessioning.

Vagabundo headed to 116, going through various backstreets, listening to Backstreets by the Boss, and to knopfler's eternal, Telegraph Road.

Vagabundo went to the bar in 116.

He found the first pretty young black girl with a nice ass and asked her whether she would bareback. "Vc fude sem camisinha? Sou limpio".

She was from caixis. She had two kids. She had a nice ass. She said yes, she'd bareback. Vagabundo selected half hour for 90 reais. Up in the cabin, she blew Vagabundo, then bent over, and she was wet and hot, and Vagabundo blew a load in her pussy.

Then he paid her an extra 15 reais, and got out of there ahead of any further upsell for extra prevention, because he is a vagabundo. He messaged her on zap (whatsapp), later.

He walked to Metro Uruguiana.

Along the way, a fat black girl started flirting.

Her wingman was a black tranny.

Since trannies have a habit of trying to grab their target, Vagabundo kept his distance, but the tranny kept cutting off his route, so Vagabundo took out the flashlight taser. They saw him take it out, and that was enough. He didn't even have to turn on the light much less make the audible electric shock zap.

Vagabundo got to the street vendors outside of Metro Uruguiaina, and took a seat to check with the other ISGers over at 65. None of them were coming to the metro, so Vagabundo headed back to Barra on one of the last trains. The Metro closes at 24 h, midnight, as does the BRT.

Vagabundo rode across from a very hot morena clara an a mulata on the metro. He tried twice to get the Morena's number. He was denied both times. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

On balance, Vagabundo was quite happy. Blowing a load in a real young woman's pussy is the key to happiness, even if the fuck lasts 15 minutes in a cabin with no lights. Her pussy was hot and wet, and she liked the fuck.

And so it goes. As Senor PM has been alluding to, it is better to be a monger with daily pussy in Rio de Janeiro than to be a rich world simp who is at the mercy of some women with power over the man's ability to fuck on command.

116 is basically VM (Vila Mimosa) East. It is similar talent to VM, often the same talent, as in the girl I called Midori, who was a legit pharma student, with a super tight negra anal passage that she gave up. The same game can work at tier 1 termas, indeed, I have made it work, often, and will again. But sometimes, it is great to just roll in and show your recent test, and get it BBFSCIP.

The only thing that some of these places like 116, 4 x4, Mosaico, and Perola Negra lack is Springsteen -- but DJ Vagabundo is going to change that. My mission is to bring The Boss to Rio fucking.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oID_fZDtcs0[/URL]

One soft infested summer, me and Terry became friends.

Trying in vain to breathe the fire we was born in.

Catching rides to the outskirts, tying faith between our teeth.

Sleeping in that old abandoned beach house, getting wasted in the heat.

And hiding on the backstreets.

Hiding on the backstreets.

With a love so hard and filled with defeat.

Running for our lives at night on them backstreets.

Slow dancing in the dark on the beach at Stockton's Wing.

Where desperate lovers park, we sat with the last of the Duke Street Kings.

Huddled in our cars, waiting for the bells that ring.

In the deep heart of the night they set us loose of everything.

To go running on the backstreets.

Running on the backstreets.

Terry, you swore we'd live forever.

Taking it on them backstreets together.

Endless juke joints and Valentino drag.

Where famous dancers scraped the tears up off the street, dressed down in rags.

Running into the darkness, some hurt bad, some really dying.

At night sometimes it seemed you could hear the whole damn city crying.

Blame it on the lies that killed us, blame it on the truth that ran us down.

You can blame it all on me, Terry, it don't matter to me now.

When the breakdown hit at midnight, there was nothing to say.

But I hated him, and I hated you when you went away.

Laying here in the dark, you're like an angel on my chest.

Just another tramp of hearts crying tears of faithlessness.

Remember all the movies, Terry, we'd go see.

Trying to learn to walk like the heroes we thought we had to be.

And after all this time, to find we're just like all the rest.

Stranded in the park and forced to confess.

To hiding on the backstreets.

Hiding on the backstreets.

Where we swore forever friends.

On the backstreets until the end.

Hiding on the backstreets.

Hiding on the backstreets.

Hiding on the backstreets.

Hiding on the backstreets.

Well a long time ago, came a man on a track.

Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back.

And he put down his load where he thought it was the best.

He made a home in the wilderness.

He built a cabin and a winter store.

And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore.

And the other travellers came walking down the track.

And they never went further, no they never went back.

Then came the churches, then came the schools.

Then came the lawyers, then came the rules.

Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads.

And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road.

Then came the mines, then came the ore.

Then there was the hard times, then there was a war.

Telegraph sang a song about the world outside.

Telegraph Road got so deep and so wide.

Like a rolling river.

And my radio says tonight it's going to freeze.

People driving home from the factories.

There's six lanes of traffic.

Three lanes moving slow.

I used to like to go to work but they shut it down.

I've got a right to go to work but there's no work here to be found.

Yes, and they say we're going to have to pay what's owed.

We're going to have to reap from some seed that's been sowed.

And the birds up on the wires and the telegraph poles.

They can always fly away from this rain and this cold.

You can hear them singing out their telegraph code.

All the way down the Telegraph Road.

Well I'd sooner forget, but I remember those nights.

Yeah, life was just a bet on a race between the lights.

You had your head on my shoulder, you had your hand in my hair.

Now you act a little colder like you don't seem to care.

But just believe in me, baby, and I'll take you away.

From out of this darkness and into the day.

From these rivers of headlights, these rivers of rain.

From the anger that lives on the streets with these names.

'Cause I've run every red light on memory lane.

I've seen desperation explode into flames.

And I don't want to see it again.

From all of these signs saying "Sorry, but we're closed".

All the way down the Telegraph Road.

[URL]https://youtu.be/_4E_924b9SU[/URL]

Hey Eddie, can you lend me a few bucks?

Tonight, can you get us a ride?

Got to make it through the tunnel.

Got a meeting with a man on the other side.

Hey Eddie, this guy, he's the real thing.

So if you want to come along.

You got to promise you won't say anything.

'Cause this guy don't dance.

And the word's been passed, this is our last chance.

We got to stay cool tonight, Eddie.

'Cause man, we got ourselves out on that line.

And if we blow this one.

They ain't going to be looking for just me this time.

And all we got to do is hold up our end.

Here, stuff this in your pocket.

It'll look like you're carrying a friend.

And remember, just don't smile.

Change your shirt, 'cause tonight we got style.

Cherry says she's going to walk.

'Cause she found out I took her radio and hocked it.

But Eddie, man, she don't understand.

That two grand's practically sitting here in my pocket.

Tonight's going to be everything that I said.

And when I walk through that door.

I'm just going to throw that money on the bed.

She'll see this time I wasn't just talking.

Then I'm going to go out walking.

Hey Eddie, can you catch us a ride?

My conclusion from this visit in Rio is that good looking girls can not be had for less then 50 euro / 30 min. If I have to quote a song like Vagabundo does then it will have to be "Sad But True" by Metallica. You asked me if I have to much time, take a look in the mirror first? None goes here in search of lyrics.

You will get good performance here for cheap that you can not find in Europe. But if your searching for a visually pleasing girl in both face and body then you will have a hard time here unless you are willing to pay the mentioned price above.

I have not been to Sao Paolo yet but I doubt It will get better there? If someone goes to Brazil thinking that he will get good looking girls cheap then he will be utterly disappointed. I write this from my perspective which is visiting independent girls in Malaga. In Malaga I can get same visual level for same price as here so there is no point in going here for the beauty. But if we combine beauty with performance and diversity then yes Brazil is No. 1.

If somebody disagrees about this then give me guidance to where those girls are hiding.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2688223]If somebody disagrees about this then give me guidance to where those girls are hiding.[/QUOTE]First of all you never mentioned the places you went to look for chicks.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2688223]My conclusion from this visit in Rio is that good looking girls can not be had for less then 50 euro / 30 min. If I have to quote a song like Vagabundo does then it will have to be "Sad But True" by Metallica. You asked me if I have to much time, take a look in the mirror first? None goes here in search of lyrics.

You will get good performance here for cheap that you can not find in Europe. But if your searching for a visually pleasing girl in both face and body then you will have a hard time here unless you are willing to pay the mentioned price above.

I have not been to Sao Paolo yet but I doubt It will get better there? If someone goes to Brazil thinking that he will get good looking girls cheap then he will be utterly disappointed. I write this from my perspective which is visiting independent girls in Malaga. In Malaga I can get same visual level for same price as here so there is no point in going here for the beauty. But if we combine beauty with performance and diversity then yes Brazil is No. 1.

If somebody disagrees about this then give me guidance to where those girls are hiding.[/QUOTE]Was that a joke? If yes. It's a good one!

If not, seriously, you've got to be kidding. For one thing, every well-known "massage" place in Centro will get you an hour for 150-200 reals with very cute girls. Fish in a barrel. You don't even need to get creative.

If you're still in Brazil, find my latest report (and tons of others that will send you in the right direction). If not, you should've asked before.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2688362]Was that a joke? If yes. It's a good one!

If not, seriously, you've got to be kidding. For one thing, every well-known "massage" place in Centro will get you an hour for 150-200 reals with very cute girls. Fish in a barrel. You don't even need to get creative.

If you're still in Brazil, find my latest report (and tons of others that will send you in the right direction). If not, you should've asked before.[/QUOTE]I have visited all places in Centro that is on GParena in price range "150-200 reals" an hour. And yes it really is like "fish in a barrel" in the sense "cod in a barrel". The boring cod they served you every Tuesday in school. You will for sure not find a Betta splendens in that barrel. If you consider those girls "very cute" I will call and book you an eye exam, or maybe you forgot your glasses while visiting?

Whiskeria 4 x4 and 65 have some good looking girls but many in those places are no better then what you will find in the cheaper massage salons in Centro. That brings the price to minimum 50 euro / 30 min.

I have the feeling that many guys in the Brazil thread live in the past and in their minds make the girls look better then they actually do to compensate for a slowly sinking ship and by that I mean the the economy here is such that good looking girls do not need to be in the profession anymore and I see a lot of potential for economic growth in the future. Also this "holy" Sunday irritates me like hell. Everything closed, you need a magnifying glass to find pussy. Imagine that in Bangkok on a Sunday. Not saying I like Bangkok more. Brazil is NO 1 mongering place on earth for performance + diversity + value for money. If someone claims otherwise then they have not visited.

I am still in Brazil and will just leave for a couple of weeks to hike Machu Picchu and then I will do Sao Paolo properly.

What I am claiming is that the days of cheap beauty is gone worldwide. Cheap from my European perspective means it makes financial sense to fly a long way to get the same level of beauty.

For an American all destinations are cheap. And I think most of the posters here are American.

Landed at the crack of dawn at 545 am and went straight to work near Petropolis and back to Rio by 3 pm. Supplier drops me off at SDU so my agent and I grab the metro to 4 x4 to avoid downtown traffic. First time using the metro and I am impressed with it.

Enter 4 x4 around 430 pm and leave my bag in the locker room and grab a cold beer. Talent is approx 15-20 girls and not very good. Decided to stick around to see if it gets better and it did around 6 pm. Then it was around 40-50 girls and a few more guys, but the talent definitely got better.

Talked to few girls but they were too aggressive for me. I prefer a girl who plays it conservative while talking as they usually perform better later (my own personal experience).

Ultimately found a tall morena with curly hair who was a good talker and not aggressive. She told me everything is included and I wanted to know what time she gets off and what she is going to do later. She asked what I had in mind. So I explained that we get out of there, head to dinner and then all night at my hotel. She said 600 and I agreed. She told the manage that she needs to leave to get some stuff for her kids and the manager said no. So, my agent said that let's try to pay the house something (not 1100) and see if that might work. He makes a deal with the manager and owner that pay the house 400 and 600 to the girl. Agreed and the girl goes to change and I pay the bill. Total damage was 400 to the house + 50 entry + 84 for beers = 534.

We head to the hotel, drop off our bags and go to a nice little Italian joint called L'ulivo Cucina e Vini. Try it next time you are in Copa. It is really good. This is her first Italian meal and her very first tiramisu. I feed her the first bite and I think she almost orgasmed.

Get back to the hotel and we jump on each other. Lots of GFE, tit sucking which leads me to find out that she is still making a little bit of milk and then oral. I make her come and she wants to fuck so she climbs on top and then remembers a condom. I tell her that I have my test copies in my phone and she can confirm the tests and the vasectomy results. She says no need and hops on. Tells me to hold my cum so she can swallow my "milk". I was like. FUCK YES and then finished in her mouth and she swallows it all. We take a shower and come back for round two. This time it is CIP and I fall asleep. Exhausted.

Wake up around 530 am with a raging hard on (cialis from night before) and we start round three. Again, CIP and she asks if I want anal. I asked if she had lube and she doesn't but we can try. So, I said wait a bit and we will try before she has to leave at 8 am.

Wake up at 715 am for round 4 and this time she literally tries to force my dick is her tight ass. It isn't working as there is no lube and I wasn't too interested as I don't know long I was going to hard for (4th time in less than 12 hrs is tough). So, I fucked her pussy good and finished in her mouth with her swallowing and then telling me that I didn't leave much milk. I was like. 4th time in 12 hours. I am surprised something came out. After that she leaves, I get up and shower and head to the airport for SP for my planned dupla weekend.

Total cost was 1000 for 4 fucks — 250 r per fuck not including the beers and entry since that is a sunk cost anyways.

Top talent at 4 x4 is approx a 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello but the girls are way more "safadas".

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2688362]Was that a joke? If yes. It's a good one!

If not, seriously, you've got to be kidding. For one thing, every well-known "massage" place in Centro will get you an hour for 150-200 reals with very cute girls. Fish in a barrel. You don't even need to get creative.

If you're still in Brazil, find my latest report (and tons of others that will send you in the right direction). If not, you should've asked before.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add one thing. Unless you consider normal girls walking at any random street here in Centro "very very cute" then you are lying to yourself because If I could select between those girls and the girls in the massage parlours then I would easily pick a office worker. What has also disappointed me is the level of fitness of the girls. That hard round bunda that Brazil is supposed to be famous for is definitely a rare sight in In 150 - 200 range massage places. Most have not seen a gym in ages. Then when they do the cheek greetings they can have so much makeup that it sticks to your skin like glue. You can find a diamond in the rough like I have done but "fish in a barrel" - that's just delusional.

So it was earlier in the week, and Vagabundo took the luxury bus to Centro, and banged Amber Lynn in a pounding piledriver for like a solid 20 minutes of 40 minutes of animalistic fucking out of 60 minutes. That was 150.

That was Monday.

Anne Amari is sick, and I miss her, or her low pricing of 100 reais a day to stay, cook, clean, fuck, fuck, etc.

Tuesday, I did the aforementioned swing festa where Monique, one of my personal favorites has become the favorite of the local swing friends I have made. She barely even sucks my dick, as I mentioned. Of course, I sold her negra holes to a half a dozen locals who use her pretty often now.

Then I hit the backstreets with Springsteen in my ears to Centro and 116, and blew wad.

I've been taking PReP and you should too. I just tested clean, and you should test too.

So Anne Amari was a no show yesterday, and I miss her, wrestling, which she likes.

So today, I brought Ana Zawaadi Foxx in from bem zona norte, and am on blowing load 2 of 4 into her negra 20 year old pussy. I was wearing my fireman bombeiro patch pack practicing to photograph tonight. I am in a VIP booth with Swiss Embassy diplomats, but the stupid assholes paid full price of like $800 to $2500 reais per ticket. When all they needed was a fireman patch or a press pass. Chocolatehunter call your office!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2688505]Top talent at 4 x4 is approx a 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello but the girls are way more "safadas".[/QUOTE]Anaggie, can you clarify? I don't remember anyone rating the top Scandallo women as low as 6. 5.

Glad you had a great all-night session in Rio.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2688594]Anaggie, can you clarify? I don't remember anyone rating the top Scandallo women as low as 6. 5.

Glad you had a great all-night session in Rio.[/QUOTE]I think Anaggie is saying this.

Top talent at 4 x4 = 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2688507]I forgot to add one thing. Unless you consider normal girls walking at any random street here in Centro "very very cute" then you are lying to yourself because If I could select between those girls and the girls in the massage parlours then I would easily pick a office worker. What has also disappointed me is the level of fitness of the girls. That hard round bunda that Brazil is supposed to be famous for is definitely a rare sight in In 150 - 200 range massage places. Most have not seen a gym in ages. Then when they do the cheek greetings they can have so much makeup that it sticks to your skin like glue. You can find a diamond in the rough like I have done but "fish in a barrel" - that's just delusional.[/QUOTE]Interesting! Never thought of myself as delusional, but what do I know!

Here are the ones from my report I could find easily. One's 160, another one is 200. No good?

[URL]http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE[/URL]+GAUCHA&s=257.

[URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla[/URL]

Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.

I mean, I have no idea what your standards are, maybe if you post a pic or 2 that you consider worthy, that might help.

So Zawaadi came by for 4 fucks. It was a good time Thursday, yesterday. She always pushes to get an uber back to bem zona Norte, but I got her an uber to metro jardim oceanico, where I got on the metro. After that she paid for the driver out of her own funds, as I had given her 400 reais. BBFSCIP.

I then headed to Copa to have dinner with ISGer Steve_ohh at Trattoria. Trattoria is a good spot. It's always good to compare notes on mongering destinations like Kenya and Madagascar.

I then headed to link up with some friends for the Carnival parade at Sambadrome, which I had bought tickets to for the 21st for 800 reais. I will just say this. Chocolateluvr's plan of going to the Samba School rehearsals beginning in January is the right plan. Going to the parade is a spectacle, and maybe should be done once in a lifetime but it is not worth the expense and hassle if you are a monger looking for bundinha. You sit in a luxury box, 30 meters back from the floats and dancers. You can bring in your drinks and eats and watch the parade like you are in a VIP box at the NFC West playoffs, but if you want to actually talk to the passisstas, the super hot dancers, get their numbers, and get good action shots, maybe try to date them (which you would have to do), then going to the Carnival Parade is way late in the game and a total waste for the purpose of non pro game.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2688594]Anaggie, can you clarify? I don't remember anyone rating the top Scandallo women as low as 6. 5.

Glad you had a great all-night session in Rio.[/QUOTE]

Not the top women .. no. I was talking the bottom level. I have seen a few at the 5.5-6.5 .. Very few .. could count them on one hand 😜 There isn’t a terma in Rio that can match the top level of Scandello.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2688855]There isnt a terma in Rio that can match the top level of Scandello.[/QUOTE]That's so sad to hear as it certainly wasn't that way when I first started going to Brazil. Hopefully there will be a rebound. I'm counting down on worldwide lineups to recover from this dang pandemic. It's going to take some time. I think it won't be at least until 2023 before we're truly back to "normal". And that's only if we don't have a relapse back into another pandemic-induced calamity. The Spanish Flu pandemic of a century ago lasted three years. So, if we have the same length of time, we're definitely talking 2023.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2688745]Interesting! Never thought of myself as delusional, but what do I know!

Here are the ones from my report I could find easily. One's 160, another one is 200. No good?

[URL]http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE[/URL]+GAUCHA&s=257.

[URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla[/URL]

Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.

I mean, I have no idea what your standards are, maybe if you post a pic or 2 that you consider worthy, that might help.[/QUOTE]I just saw Carla today. Her face was very pretty and had a attitude. I'll definitely go back and see her again. Also, Mirela from the same spot is really hot. Her pics don't do her justice at all. Similar attitude as Carla but she is tiny. ([URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/mirela[/URL]).

I stopped into Copa Massagens late last week and saw Kelly. She was a little on the older side, morena, but cute. Plus she invited me to play with the bunda with I appreciated, haha. Not my favorite place so far but, I might have to go back and check out more talent.

I haven't gotten to see many places yet. My company actually expects me to work which is crazy LOL.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2688505]Top talent at 4 x4 is approx a 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello but the girls are way more "safadas".[/QUOTE]That is about right. You don't go to a honky tonk like 4 x 4 looking for Scandallo quality girls. If you do you will be severely disappointed. But 4 x4 is still a fun place to go when in RJ. It's raunchy and kind of wild. I once saw a 4 x4 naked girl writhing around on the dirty bar room naked mopping up the spilled drinks with her tits and ass. That's pretty "safadas" if you ask me. I call it circus circus or atmosphere and boy does 4 x4 have atmosphere. So I like to go to the joint at least once when I am in RJ. And if I find a natural looking, slender girl there of perhaps SP Clinica quality then I am a happy punter.

Meanwhile I am in SP and doing higher quality boate girls every night. It costs double or even triple. So what? It is only money. And believe me, my smokin' hot boate girls are plenty safadas when I get them into my room.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2688745]Interesting! Never thought of myself as delusional, but what do I know!

Here are the ones from my report I could find easily. One's 160, another one is 200. No good?

[URL]http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE[/URL]+GAUCHA&s=257.

[URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla[/URL]

Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.

I mean, I have no idea what your standards are, maybe if you post a pic or 2 that you consider worthy, that might help.[/QUOTE]The first link is not working and the second girl I can not say anything about as it is blurred. And the issue is that all the girls that have pictures on these websites look worse when you see them face to face. It's like when you look at the burgers that are displayed before you order. What you end up getting is usually a sloppy mess. If you message Dudas massagen as an example on WhatsApp and ask them to send pictures of the girls you can think that your suddenly in heaven. Go visit and tell me what you find! There is only 1 girl that has a small resemblance off what's in your phone and mind.

As for posting pictures, I never take pictures of anyone I meet and sending pictures posted online is meaningless as it is all edited. Onix terapias is the only place that I have visited that is somewhat correct and I do not consider those girls pretty. It is plain Janes that you visit to empty your balls not because you get an instant erection and feel like you have to fuck her.

Fwiw many of the best girls at 4 x4 like Penelope were out of town for this bizarre COVID delayed carnival why exactly I don't know.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2688855]Not the top women .. no. I was talking the bottom level. I have seen a few at the 5.5-6.5 .. Very few .. could count them on one hand 😜 There isnt a terma in Rio that can match the top level of Scandello.[/QUOTE]

I've often wondered if the anal things is some persistent cultural artifact born out of Catholic birth control or perhaps porn. Whatever the cause, I love the way in BR women volunteer it and tonsil massage and swalllow (often with a wink and smile). Really gets me going when they do that. How lucky are we: duplos, morning BJ, massage, kissing and so on. I love it when I'm deep in mish in one girl whilst another rubs my balls or rims me and both are giggling as I go more and more crazy with lust. They know their power and are generous lovers. I feel like I'm a teenager that walked into Disneyland. Yay !!

Brazil totally rocks compared to the obese, entitled, ignorant (and often tattood) Americanus Femme Vulgaris who in one way or another charge premium prices (and plenty of guilt) for mediocre experiences. May Cristo Redentor survey his flock in Rio and tell the girls that they are doing great deeds and ensuring male happiness and are blessed by God.

"they are all the same with the lights out" - well not exactly, but you get the idea. Ladies have 3 holes, hands and tits. I like to use it all, nothing like a tit massage and blowing between their tits, even better with another girl rubbing my balls from behind whilst I cream all over her friends tits. Annagie, great report!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2688955]That is about right. You don't go to a honky tonk like 4 x 4 looking for Scandallo quality girls. If you do you will be severely disappointed. But 4 x4 is still a fun place to go when in RJ. It's raunchy and kind of wild. I once saw a 4 x4 naked girl writhing around on the dirty bar room naked mopping up the spilled drinks with her tits and ass. That's pretty "safadas" if you ask me. I call it circus circus or atmosphere and boy does 4 x4 have atmosphere. So I like to go to the joint at least once when I am in RJ. And if I find a natural looking, slender girl there of perhaps SP Clinica quality then I am a happy punter.

Meanwhile I am in SP and doing higher quality boate girls every night. It costs double or even triple. So what? It is only money. And believe me, my smokin' hot boate girls are plenty safadas when I get them into my room.[/QUOTE]Oh. I enjoy my time at 4 x4 . It is a complete different atmosphere than Scandello and that makes it fun. But girl quality wise. There isn't a comparison. Sorry Rio mongers 🤣.

That is why I come for one night in Rio and bail to SP. Hell. Even some of the girls working the bar at the Renaissance are hotter than most of the girls at 4 X4.

COVID ended in 4th quarter 2021 according to cab drivers commenting on traffic to Barra, or at the latest in quarter 1 2022 when mask mandates ended in Rio.

COVID now is just an excuse for control of the majority of castrated rich world men.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2688875]That's so sad to hear as it certainly wasn't that way when I first started going to Brazil. Hopefully there will be a rebound. I'm counting down on worldwide lineups to recover from this dang pandemic. It's going to take some time. I think it won't be at least until 2023 before we're truly back to "normal". And that's only if we don't have a relapse back into another pandemic-induced calamity. The Spanish Flu pandemic of a century ago lasted three years. So, if we have the same length of time, we're definitely talking 2023.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2689010]I've often wondered if the anal thing is some persistent cultural artifact born out of Catholic birth control or perhaps porn. Whatever the cause, I love the way in BR women volunteer it.[/QUOTE]I stopped asking why a long time ago. I just do it. Although, I reject the "Catholic explanation" since there are plenty of other countries that are just as Catholic as Brazil, if not more. But, you don't find a prevalence of anal sex in those countries like you do in Brazil. Now, what I understand is that there is a lot of anal sex in Muslim countries driven by the high demand that women be virgins when they get married. I have very little experience in Muslim countries (United Arab Emirates and Morocco) and was not successful in obtaining anal in any of those places. However, I have butt fucked Moroccan, Turkish, and Lebanese women in Europe (Spain and Germany). But as all of us Brazil lovers know, no place and I mean [B]no place[/B] matches Brazil when it comes to anal sex being on the menu! So bugger on LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2688745]

[URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla[/URL]

Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.
.[/QUOTE]I've been to Eden spa just once and sex was not being offered. I get it maybe this could be negotiated, is that how you had sex with her or did you take her off premises?

Anne Amari half hour fuck.

[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5e664b03b464c[/URL]

I fucked her like a young Johnny Wadd Holmes fantasizing about her fisting seka, haha.

We watched some Anne Amari scene on [URL]evilangel.com[/URL] and Cidade Baixa on Netflix, which is excellent.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2689010]I've often wondered if the anal things is some persistent cultural artifact born out of Catholic birth control or perhaps porn. Whatever the cause, I love the way in BR women volunteer it.......[/QUOTE]I just always thought it was because of Brazilian men's obsession with Brasileira ass. The particular beauty and sex appeal of Brasileira ass is well-known. Thus I think Brazilian men down through the generations have been persistent about getting that ass.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2688974]The first link is not working.[/QUOTE]Alice Gaucha shows up clearly on this link:

[URL]http://onixterapias.com/index.php[/URL]

Saturday, Vagabundo paid Anne Amari $300 out of her usual $800 a week. We had good sex twice on her pernoite. It's tough because she wanted more money. But as the Bubba Boy guide says somewhere, you have to be totally selfish.

So Vagabundo headed into centro on a metro with her. I got off in Lapa. I met up with ISGer PTG at UpHouse. There were 15-20 girls, many 8+, mostly darker shades. It is a good centro option on weekends.

Av. Mem de Sá, 89 - Centro, lapa. RJ, 20230-150.

I did a little swing thing and the usual morena from Meier was a good, quick fuck, the third of the day.

Then we went to Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa.

Are. Do Rezende, 82 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20231-092.

This place is really good. The vibe was great. By midnight, when we arrived, the kitchen had already closed down. The cover was $10 reais. Women who like to smoke ganja like to fuck! This is a great place to take that special working girl who likes to smoke weed to socialize and enjoy. There are 3 levels. The top level is open air. I didn't detect any actual ganja being smoked up on the top floor. Maybe some other types of cigarettes. On the second floor, there is a big dance space with big speakers. We stayed until almost 4 AM. ISGer PTG is a great wingman because he speaks Portuguese. We had a good time.

That was a fun post Vagabundo. I enjoyed reading it. A few of my favorite SP girls are marijuanitas too. I have one coming over tonight.

Keep rockin'.

A. H.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2689500]Saturday, Vagabundo paid Anne Amari $300 out of her usual $800 a week. We had good sex twice on her pernoite. It's tough because she wanted more money. But as the Bubba Boy guide says somewhere, you have to be totally selfish.

So Vagabundo headed into centro on a metro with her. I got off in Lapa. I met up with ISGer PTG at UpHouse. There were 15-20 girls, many 8+, mostly darker shades. It is a good centro option on weekends.

Av. Mem de S, 89 - Centro, lapa. RJ, 20230-150.

I did a little swing thing and the usual morena from Meier was a good, quick fuck, the third of the day.

Then we went to Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa.

Are. Do Rezende, 82 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20231-092.

This place is really good. The vibe was great. By midnight, when we arrived, the kitchen had already closed down. The cover was $10 reais. Women who like to smoke ganja like to fuck! This is a great place to take that special working girl who likes to smoke weed to socialize and enjoy. There are 3 levels. The top level is open air. I didn't detect any actual ganja being smoked up on the top floor. Maybe some other types of cigarettes. On the second floor, there is a big dance space with big speakers. We stayed until almost 4 AM. ISGer PTG is a great wingman because he speaks Portuguese. We had a good time.[/QUOTE]Hey Vagabundo,

Thought of messaging you to ask you a question about my favorite city but couldn't. Maybe because I haven't been traveling enough lately. LOL Anyway, few days ago made post in Suriname section and probably could feel you in with more details on that if you're interested. I'm here in Rio for few more days after 10 year absence and wanted to consult an expert. Staying in Copa for now. Message me if you can.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;2689667]Hey Vagabundo,

Thought of messaging you to ask you a question about my favorite city but couldn't. Maybe because I haven't been traveling enough lately. LOL Anyway, few days ago made post in Suriname section and probably could feel you in with more details on that if you're interested. I'm here in Rio for few more days after 10 year absence and wanted to consult an expert. Staying in Copa for now. Message me if you can.[/QUOTE]Please check your PMs. Just sent you one.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2686158]Wow that is exactly how I feel after my visits to Sao Paulo. I took the risk, went by myself to a place everyone told me was too dangerous, made love with beautiful women and now I am in USA working for several more years. Butt I have the memories.

"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".

We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, high schools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.

So as I stood in Copacabana beach on a Monday night with the sand between my toes and the waves crashing all around me, I remember that Friday night I spent with a wild redhead branca I just met a week ago at that exact same spot. We had just come back from lapa and were in high spirits. She fell from her lime scooter and got a nasty cut and bruise on her shoulder and she could care less. We were dancing to the samba music playing from one of the stands nearby and were laughing on how badly spoke in each other's native language. We were just two people that forgot the pitfalls of life for a brief moment and basked in it. In that moment disconnected from this timeline we're forever dancing and laughing the night away because the sun never comes up.

But in this one there are no happy ever afters, there is only the morning after. When we have to go back home, back to work and back to reality.

Life's a * and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.

But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but there's a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks."

There was some loss of monetary value but in it's stead a time was captured that I can keep forever after everything else goes away.

Maybe I'm wrong tho.

Because we all know money is finite and our time is infinite after all.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you enjoyed my post but a proper recognition of the words origins is proper etiquette.

Hope your next trips to Brazil are just as good. I'll always be chasing that sunset my self.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2684618]

I'm reminded by a line from a book my english teacher would lament from time to time.

"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".

We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, highschools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.

So as I stood in copacabana beach on a Monday night with the sand between my toes and the waves crashing all around me, I remember that Friday night I spent with a wild redhead branca I just met a week ago at that exact same spot. We had just come back from lapa and were in high spirits. She fell from her lime scooter and got a nasty cut and bruise on her shoulder and she could care less. We were dancing to the samba music playing from one of the stands nearby and were laughing on how badly spoke in each other's native language. We were just two people that forgot the pitfalls of life for a brief moment and basked in it. In that moment disconnected from this timeline we're forever dancing and laughing the night away because the sun never comes up.

But in this one there are no happy ever afters, there is only the morning after. When we have to go back home, back to work and back to reality.

Life's a ***** and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.

But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but theres a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks. ".

There was some loss of monetary value but in it's stead a time was captured that I can keep forever after everything else goes away.

Maybe I'm wrong tho.

Because we all know money is finite and our time is infinite after all.[/QUOTE]

Hey all,

Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.

Specific Qs-.

1. Are the Windsor hotels guests friendly?(specifically in Barra & Copa).

2. Is it easy to get a sim card being a visitor?

Any good way to use phone & internet being in Rio.

3. Best way to travel from Barra to other fun places in Rio.

4. Is it safe to travel by taxi at nights between Barra to Copacabana or Centro area & back to Barra?

5. Is it safe to carry cash for fun instead of Cards? Just to avoid records.

6. Best way to get Reais in cash by converting other currencies.

7. Fun places (Spa's, Clubs) & websites in Barra area with best girls.

I would love to meet Senior ISGers when I visit the Rio.

Thanks in advance!!

Arguments among we few is like arguing whether you like a indica vape with a negra princess like Anne Amari or a sativa bong with a hoar like Amber Lynn, when, truly, we prefer both or all of the above as long as they are Brazilian, especially cariocas!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2689648]That was a fun post Vagabundo. I enjoyed reading it. A few of my favorite SP girls are marijuanitas too. I have one coming over tonight..[/QUOTE]

On my last trip to Rio I met this lovely 20 year old, had a great time with her. She texted me couple times and came over, never mentioned taxi or watched the clock. She owns her own house so business must be good.

Another pic of my favorite MILF from Dolce Vita, did her and her friend one night.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2689208]I've been to Eden spa just once and sex was not being offered. I get it maybe this could be negotiated, is that how you had sex with her or did you take her off premises?[/QUOTE]Are you sure you're thinking about Eden spa? I've never had to tell them I'm there for sex, it's not that kind of place, LOL. One spa that's not sex-friendly in Copa is Copa Terapias, IIRC.

Not a single report about the ongoing Rio carnival.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2690155]Are you sure you're thinking about Eden spa? I've never had to tell them I'm there for sex, it's not that kind of place, LOL. One spa that's not sex-friendly in Copa is Copa Terapias, IIRC.[/QUOTE]You're right, my bad, they're both in the same building and I've been to both.

Hoping to eventually get to Rio next month and have been trying to find girl friendly hotels in advance. Absolutely no luck up to now. I have emailed many including the The Windsor but no luck I'm afraid. Even if you book a double and girls show ID! Really disappointed as I love to have girls visit my hotel room, I feel more relaxed and able to enjoy myself fully.

If anyone has any advice on that front I would be more than grateful?

Good luck all.

Hey all,

Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.

Specific Qs-.

1. Are the Windsor hotels guests friendly?(specifically in Barra & Copa).

2. Is it easy to get a sim card being a visitor?

Any good way to use phone & internet being in Rio.

3. Best way to travel from Barra to other fun places in Rio.

4. Is it safe to travel by taxi at nights between Barra to Copacabana or Centro area & back to Barra?

5. Is it safe to carry cash for fun instead of Cards? Just to avoid records.

6. Best way to get Reais in cash by converting other currencies.

7. Fun places (Spa's, Clubs) & websites in Barra area with best girls.

I would love to meet Senior ISGers when I visit the Rio.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Walshy;2690279]Hoping to eventually get to Rio next month and have been trying to find girl friendly hotels in advance. Absolutely no luck up to now. I have emailed many including the The Windsor but no luck I'm afraid. Even if you book a double and girls show ID! Really disappointed as I love to have girls visit my hotel room, I feel more relaxed and able to enjoy myself fully.

If anyone has any advice on that front I would be more than grateful?

Good luck all.

Hey all,

Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.

Specific Qs-.[/QUOTE]Dude,

I stayed in Othon Palace for a bit and if you play it smart there is always a way to get the girl through. Now I'm staying at awesome spacious Airbnb with a normal balcony and an ocean view to die for and don't have any problems. I could have an orgy for 10 if I wanted to and nobody would give a damn.

Dude,

I stayed in Othon Palace for a bit and if you play it smart there is always a way to get the girl through. Now I'm staying at awesome spacious Airbnb with a normal balcony and an ocean view to die for and don't have any problems. I could have an orgy for 10 if I wanted to and nobody would give a damn.

Thanks very much for your reply. Maybe I am just overthinking it and worrying too much. The hotels I contacted all said no guests and many of the Airbnb apartments say in their rules 'no visitors' and are in buildings with 24 HR reception. Hopefully if you are quiet and respectful, most security will just turn a blind eye? I certainly hope so!

Thanks again.

Hello Everyone. Hoping to get some Rio advice. It's my birthday this weekend so looking for some fun. I'm not exactly new to Rio but have had more experience in Sao Paulo, I don't speak Portuguese either.

Wanting to get some recommendations. My Rio experience has solely been with escorts from the various sites to hotels. However, I'm now staying at an apartment in Leblon, with a lot of security and it's a high end building so either have to get a hotel room or try one of the termas / saunas / venue with facilities. I like the higher end girls and definitely prefer quality of quantity. The only place I really know is Centaurus is this the best top end option in Rio? Any other places I should look? Also, any Scandalo type places in Rio? My only frame of reference is Scandalo in SP, I've been there 3 times. Am I correct that nowhere in Rio will come close?

Are there any alternatives to Centaurus? My guessing is it's touristy and overpriced but still attracts the best girls.

If anyone could give me some ideas it would be greatly appreciated. I've looked at private55 and RioSexSite and nothing stands out to be honest. And that can prove costly if you don't get to see them first as photos as very photoshopped.

[QUOTE=Walshy;2690279]Hoping to eventually get to Rio next month and have been trying to find girl friendly hotels in advance. Absolutely no luck up to now. I have emailed many including the The Windsor but no luck I'm afraid. Even if you book a double and girls show ID! Really disappointed as I love to have girls visit my hotel room, I feel more relaxed and able to enjoy myself fully.

If anyone has any advice on that front I would be more than grateful?

Good luck all.

Hey all,

Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.

Specific Qs-.

1. Are the Windsor hotels guests friendly?(specifically in Barra & Copa).

2. Is it easy to get a sim card being a visitor?

Any good way to use phone & internet being in Rio.

3. Best way to travel from Barra to other fun places in Rio.

4. Is it safe to travel by taxi at nights between Barra to Copacabana or Centro area & back to Barra?

5. Is it safe to carry cash for fun instead of Cards? Just to avoid records.

6. Best way to get Reais in cash by converting other currencies.

7. Fun places (Spa's, Clubs) & websites in Barra area with best girls.

I would love to meet Senior ISGers when I visit the Rio.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]There is a thread for Rio hotels. But I'll name a few that I know: the Marriott, the Pestana, Porto bay. With these 3 alone should be sufficient.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2690736]There is a thread for Rio hotels. But I'll name a few that I know: the Marriott, the Pestana, Porto bay. With these 3 alone should be sufficient.[/QUOTE]I'll add Hilton (they make you register the guest now) and Hyatt Regency in Barra.

[QUOTE=Walshy;2690569]Dude,

I stayed in Othon Palace for a bit and if you play it smart there is always a way to get the girl through. Now I'm staying at awesome spacious Airbnb with a normal balcony and an ocean view to die for and don't have any problems. I could have an orgy for 10 if I wanted to and nobody would give a damn.

Thanks very much for your reply. Maybe I am just overthinking it and worrying too much. The hotels I contacted all said no guests and many of the Airbnb apartments say in their rules 'no visitors' and are in buildings with 24 HR reception. Hopefully if you are quiet and respectful, most security will just turn a blind eye? I certainly hope so!

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I would just follow the rules of the Airbnb host and try to find another Airbnb place that lets you have a guests. You can get a complaint from the host afterwards and if you try getting another Airbnb place the host can check previous host messages about you that are only seen by hosts. Can make your chances of booking some places harder like a low Uber score.

I like airbnbs because they have lots of unique places and stays compared to traditional hotels and found it really useful when I went to arraial do cabo and buzios as the hotels there were really bland for the money and were more family focused.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2690702]Hello Everyone. Hoping to get some Rio advice. It's my birthday this weekend so looking for some fun. I'm not exactly new to Rio but have had more experience in Sao Paulo, I don't speak Portuguese either.

Wanting to get some recommendations. My Rio experience has solely been with escorts from the various sites to hotels. However, I'm now staying at an apartment in Leblon, with a lot of security and it's a high end building so either have to get a hotel room or try one of the termas / saunas / venue with facilities. I like the higher end girls and definitely prefer quality of quantity. The only place I really know is Centaurus is this the best top end option in Rio? Any other places I should look? Also, any Scandalo type places in Rio? My only frame of reference is Scandalo in SP, I've been there 3 times. Am I correct that nowhere in Rio will come close?

Are there any alternatives to Centaurus? My guessing is it's touristy and overpriced but still attracts the best girls.

If anyone could give me some ideas it would be greatly appreciated. I've looked at private55 and RioSexSite and nothing stands out to be honest. And that can prove costly if you don't get to see them first as photos as very photoshopped.[/QUOTE]It's true nothing comes close to scandallo in rio and it's a shame. Overall the amount of girls compared to SP in general are low obviously because SP is a much bigger city with a bigger population and that makes the amount of 8-10 very low as a consequence. There are a lot of attractive cariocas girls but they tend to be civilians LOL there is a migration of the best rio girls to SP so it's been getting harder to find some real stunners in RJ lately. I'm more picky because when I make that 9 HR flight I want the best for my journey and it's like the best rio girls are 7's in scandallo terms. They do make up for it by being very responsive and GFE tho which is to be considered.

Overall I would say your two best places to check out are solarium and 4 x4 for the best looking girls.

Solarium seems to have the best lighting out of all the termas so you won't be surprised afterwards when you take your girl to the room. They also seem to have the best beds as well.

4 x4 just has way more girls than all the other termas so it's just a numbers game and really cheap as well.

Centaurus seems to attractive the most hotter girls but they also attract high numbers and I've been approached by girls that were beelining me to try to do a three way for a high price that would go bad I imagine. There can be some good girls there but the numbers are low and it's the most expensive at 600 brl.

I hear Monte Carlo has been getting better but you have to arrive at 5 pm. I went twice but it was at 8 pm both times and yea it sucked.

Online girls are also really low recently because of the SP migration. Barrasvip is good too. The online girls are always changing week by week so always check to see if any new girls come online.

There are tons of prives and smaller termas but I honestly think those girls are 4-6 quality look type girls and I didn't fly out for that.

It's a tough time trying to find a 9/10 in rio in my experience but it can be done you just have to do some more scouting and get to the termas around 5-6 pm where it's peak time. After that it seems to die down.

Good luck and stay safe!

I've been to both Scandallo and the Rio termas, where I have lived for 2+ years.

[URL]https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/home[/URL]

Penelope and Retinha, which you can see (and get their #) on the site are 9+, and the best dancers at the 19 h fully nude strip shows. For whatever reason they were not there in the past week. End of summer parties were 3 weeks ago. The top tier girls have their latest suckers (I mean high roller clients) who are taking them to viagems for 2000 reais a night. Good for them to make that money while they can. I've had those girls and their equivalents as mini relationships, catch tag and release as Bubba Boy's Bible discusses. I would just say that a 6 who you like and spends time with you without stressing about money, cooks, cleans, fucks and has similar interests may be better than the 9 who bangs 3 guys before 21 h, unless all you want to do is go fuck a 18 year old Annette Schwartz for 40 minutes, which has its place. After 750 days, I've had a lot of that.

IMHO, the best girls in Rio come from.

1 Mosaico after 23 h. The DJ from 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after work and fucks and his friends fuck there.

The absolute best girls I have had in my trips to Rio come from Mosaico and the now defunct Club Red Light which was nearby. Strangely, the vibe at Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa was very near Club Red Light, with the top floor open deck, the dance floor on the 2nd floor (though no hoaring, but rich older men and hot af younger women).

2. Perola Negra. Ave de Pepe 400. The last time I went, a month ago, with a brit from ISG, we immediately found two super hot girls, one a mineira, smoking body, super pretty, big fake tits who I banged, and a Rio negra with a smoking hot body. The same girls from 4 x4 work at Perola, like Penelope, like a certain Yasmin from Campo Grande, etc, etc.

And as long as you are in Barra, go to Paris, again, late at night. The only true girl from Portugal I found was at Paris. Super pretty blonde, loira.

I've said it before, often, but Barra is the Rio Grande do sul of Rio -- the Gauchas, the rich, the whites only safe beaches with lots of police, etc. The white couples who will partner swap swing to get some chocolate in their diet (and I have pictures of a white husband and wife with their mouths on the ass and pussy at the same time of very negra Monique). It does take speaking porto, and even the effort to learn the basics will pay huge dividends. No Google translate on your phone does not count.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2690809]It's true nothing comes close to scandallo in rio and it's a shame. Overall the amount of girls compared to SP in general are low obviously because SP is a much bigger city with a bigger population and that makes the amount of 8-10 very low as a consequence. There are a lot of attractive cariocas girls but they tend to be civilians LOL there is a migration of the best rio girls to SP so it's been getting harder to find some real stunners in RJ lately. I'm more picky because when I make that 9 HR flight I want the best for my journey and it's like the best rio girls are 7's in scandallo terms. They do make up for it by being very responsive and GFE tho which is to be considered.

Overall I would say your two best places to check out are solarium and 4 x4 for the best looking girls.

Solarium seems to have the best lighting out of all the termas so you won't be surprised afterwards when you take your girl to the room. They also seem to have the best beds as well..[/QUOTE]

I did go on 21st. I wrote it up. My summary is that the $800 reais (I thought it originally was 150 reais but that turned out to be dollars) is worth it once in a life time for me as a butt obsessed back packer monger and that the chocolateluvr strategy of going to samba school rehearsals was the best way to enjoy carnival as talking to the dancers at the actual final event is a non starter.

I saw the centro carnival madness last Saturday when coming back from lapa with ISGer PTG, and the street madness in Lapa was insane. My view is it is best to avoid most of that street madness for security.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2690158]Not a single report about the ongoing Rio carnival.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the advice.

I will respond properly to both of you.

I looked at barrasvip and saw two that looked good. Both have reviews and one speaks what seems to be quite fluent English from the messaging.

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-gabi-glow[/URL]

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-larissa-drummond[/URL]

Both are 600.

I am guessing that for rio in terms of looks these two are probably what I can expect in terms of top end? Will if find better if going to one of the termas? I'm tempted to just go for the escort route first time. Just wondering if there's anything out there that is likely going to serve me better. Gabi glow looks to have an amazing body and found a review that said she had a nice face as well. 600 is a good price for me.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2690988]I've been to both Scandallo and the Rio termas, where I have lived for 2+ years.

[URL]https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/home[/URL]

Penelope and Retinha, which you can see (and get their #) on the site are 9+, and the best dancers at the 19 h fully nude strip shows. For whatever reason they were not there in the past week. End of summer parties were 3 weeks ago. The top tier girls have their latest suckers (I mean high roller clients) who are taking them to viagems for 2000 reais a night. Good for them to make that money while they can. I've had those girls and their equivalents as mini relationships, catch tag and release as Bubba Boy's Bible discusses. I would just say that a 6 who you like and spends time with you without stressing about money, cooks, cleans, fucks and has similar interests may be better than the 9 who bangs 3 guys before 21 h, unless all you want to do is go fuck a 18 year old Annette Schwartz for 40 minutes, which has its place. After 750 days, I've had a lot of that.

IMHO, the best girls in Rio come from.

1 Mosaico after 23 h. The DJ from 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after work and fucks and his friends fuck there.

The absolute best girls I have had in my trips to Rio come from Mosaico and the now defunct Club Red Light which was nearby. Strangely, the vibe at Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa was very near Club Red Light, with the top floor open deck, the dance floor on the 2nd floor (though no hoaring, but rich older men and hot af younger women).

2. Perola Negra. Ave de Pepe 400. The last time I went, a month ago, with a brit from ISG, we immediately found two super hot girls, one a mineira, smoking body, super pretty, big fake tits who I banged, and a Rio negra with a smoking hot body. The same girls from 4 x4 work at Perola, like Penelope, like a certain Yasmin from Campo Grande, etc, etc.

And as long as you are in Barra, go to Paris, again, late at night. The only true girl from Portugal I found was at Paris. Super pretty blonde, loira.

I've said it before, often, but Barra is the Rio Grande do sul of Rio -- the Gauchas, the rich, the whites only safe beaches with lots of police, etc. The white couples who will partner swap swing to get some chocolate in their diet (and I have pictures of a white husband and wife with their mouths on the ass and pussy at the same time of very negra Monique). It does take speaking porto, and even the effort to learn the basics will pay huge dividends. No Google translate on your phone does not count.[/QUOTE]

I made many trips to Copa for like 5 years before Help closed and 2 trips after Help closed and Rio lost it's appeal for me. Been going to Colombia almost exclusively for the last 10 years or so and always have a great trip. But I'm curious from the vet's who know Copa like before and how it ranks up now vs. Back then and is it wort the long trip to go back.

You should check for positive reviews on [URL]gparena.net[/URL] , which covers some barravipsrio girls.

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2691114]Thanks for the advice.

I will respond properly to both of you.

I looked at barrasvip and saw two that looked good. Both have reviews and one speaks what seems to be quite fluent English from the messaging.

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-gabi-glow[/URL]

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-larissa-drummond[/URL]

Both are 600.

I am guessing that for rio in terms of looks these two are probably what I can expect in terms of top end? Will if find better if going to one of the termas? I'm tempted to just go for the escort route first time. Just wondering if there's anything out there that is likely going to serve me better..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thayerst;2691114]Thanks for the advice.

I will respond properly to both of you.

I looked at barrasvip and saw two that looked good. Both have reviews and one speaks what seems to be quite fluent English from the messaging.

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-gabi-glow[/URL]

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-larissa-drummond[/URL]

Both are 600.

I am guessing that for rio in terms of looks these two are probably what I can expect in terms of top end? Will if find better if going to one of the termas? I'm tempted to just go for the escort route first time. Just wondering if there's anything out there that is likely going to serve me better. Gabi glow looks to have an amazing body and found a review that said she had a nice face as well. 600 is a good price for me.[/QUOTE]If you're into high end looks then I would say sites like this is where you going to get the best of the best and I'm sure that site has more than just 2 , many of the girls are young, fresh, natural and fun plus they are freelancers so if you connect with them you might have the opportunity to hang out with them. Through the years I've met many escorts who shut their phone off to hang out and have some fun. Now there are even high end Madams in Rio and Sao Paulo that you need to be in the know about who have really the best, I don't say I do but I've been told they exist.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2691130]I made many trips to Copa for like 5 years before Help closed and 2 trips after Help closed and Rio lost it's appeal for me. Been going to Colombia almost exclusively for the last 10 years or so and always have a great trip. But I'm curious from the vet's who know Copa like before and how it ranks up now vs. Back then and is it wort the long trip to go back.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Copa before Help opened and since it closed. When Help was open I went every night on my trips, Loved it! For sure Copa is not the same but my recent trip to Rio was one of my best, it never gets old. Instead of Help I went to Dolce Vita, it's a tenth the size but full of freelancers, young and good looking. The place is not perfect, you need to watch your bill etc. But I had a great time there even though prices are high but I did manage to take out some very nice girls of all ages shapes and sizes, it was all good for me. I usually stay in walking distance to Dolce Vita, makes it very easy for multiple trips and the girls love it.

Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

Please check your PMs. Sent you one.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2690988]I've been to both Scandallo and the Rio termas, where I have lived for 2+ years.

[URL]https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/home[/URL]

Penelope and Retinha, which you can see (and get their #) on the site are 9+, and the best dancers at the 19 h fully nude strip shows. For whatever reason they were not there in the past week. End of summer parties were 3 weeks ago. The top tier girls have their latest suckers (I mean high roller clients) who are taking them to viagems for 2000 reais a night. Good for them to make that money while they can. I've had those girls and their equivalents as mini relationships, catch tag and release as Bubba Boy's Bible discusses. I would just say that a 6 who you like and spends time with you without stressing about money, cooks, cleans, fucks and has similar interests may be better than the 9 who bangs 3 guys before 21 h, unless all you want to do is go fuck a 18 year old Annette Schwartz for 40 minutes, which has its place. After 750 days, I've had a lot of that.

IMHO, the best girls in Rio come from.

1 Mosaico after 23 h. The DJ from 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after work and fucks and his friends fuck there.

The absolute best girls I have had in my trips to Rio come from Mosaico and the now defunct Club Red Light which was nearby. Strangely, the vibe at Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa was very near Club Red Light, with the top floor open deck, the dance floor on the 2nd floor (though no hoaring, but rich older men and hot af younger women).

2. Perola Negra. Ave de Pepe 400. The last time I went, a month ago, with a brit from ISG, we immediately found two super hot girls, one a mineira, smoking body, super pretty, big fake tits who I banged, and a Rio negra with a smoking hot body. The same girls from 4 x4 work at Perola, like Penelope, like a certain Yasmin from Campo Grande, etc, etc.

And as long as you are in Barra, go to Paris, again, late at night. The only true girl from Portugal I found was at Paris. Super pretty blonde, loira.

I've said it before, often, but Barra is the Rio Grande do sul of Rio -- the Gauchas, the rich, the whites only safe beaches with lots of police, etc. The white couples who will partner swap swing to get some chocolate in their diet (and I have pictures of a white husband and wife with their mouths on the ass and pussy at the same time of very negra Monique). It does take speaking porto, and even the effort to learn the basics will pay huge dividends. No Google translate on your phone does not count.[/QUOTE]I think the main distinction that you mentioned that you actually live in rio should be noted. While I would say 95% of posters are only vacationing for 4-7 days on average to 15 days on the high end. To the guys who are only here for a short amount of time a 6 who can clean and cook isn't really a priority. We want the 9 that will satisfy our fantasies and desires to bang the hottest girls that Brazil has to offer. Most of us coming from US / EU and especially the ones taking connecting flights making that 9+HR flight isn't doing all that for a 6 who can clean and cook. In fact for some posters that 6 is a wife / girlfriend waiting back at home LOL FOMO is also a big factor as you said some of these top girls are here for a bit and disappear for weeks to months. Best to get them when you can.

I've actually been with Penelope and my friend was with Retinha and they are definitely top girls for sure! But as you said the best looking girls are mostly in Barra and are civilians with boyfriends / husbands that only speak Porto which is a shame. For most poster there is simply not much time to find a girl you can click with that you can take a swing club in Barra and try to get some rich Barra Guacha on top of being very well versed in Porto. That's quite a tall order.

Your other info is very informative and definitely will be useful to list of posters.

For my personal viewpoint I always found the boates in SP (scandallo, bomboa, cafe photo, connection) all had girls that were 8+ on most given nights and if not you had the other 3 to go and definitely find something on top of the online sites. The interesting part of SP, especially in scandallo but also the other boates, os that you can find actual professional girls like doctors, lawyers and even models working there. My last trip in September I banged a TV model in connection and it was funny to turn on my tv the next day to see her doing some local soccer stuff. A friend of mine got a model from scandallo and he also liked that he saw her face on billboards all around SP.

That's a really nice wow factor you can't easily get in RJ. In SP that's a Thursday night!

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2692279]I think the main distinction that you mentioned that you actually live in rio should be noted. While I would say 95% of posters are only vacationing for 4-7 days on average to 15 days on the high end. To the guys who are only here for a short amount of time a 6 who can clean and cook isn't really a priority. We want the 9 that will satisfy our fantasies and desires to bang the hottest girls that Brazil has to offer. Most of us coming from US / EU and especially the ones taking connecting flights making that 9+HR flight isn't doing all that for a 6 who can clean and cook. In fact for some posters that 6 is a wife / girlfriend waiting back at home LOL FOMO is also a big factor as you said some of these top girls are here for a bit and disappear for weeks to months. Best to get them when you can.

I've actually been with Penelope and my friend was with Retinha and they are definitely top girls for sure! But as you said the best looking girls are mostly in Barra and are civilians with boyfriends / husbands that only speak Porto which is a shame. For most poster there is simply not much time to find a girl you can click with that you can take a swing club in Barra and try to get some rich Barra Guacha on top of being very well versed in Porto. That's quite a tall order.[/QUOTE]Hey,

I agree with you that most of us are short stay visitors and would be very much interested in the most beautiful girls!

Can someone recommend ways to find 8+ rated girls in Barra?

Unfortunately Barravip website will be difficult for myself, as the hotel where I will be staying seems to be non-girl friendly.

Are there any clubs or places nearby Barra or in RJ?

Thanks in advance!

Over these covid years, I've had 3-5 girls a week, sex 2-3 times a day, 14 pops a week when I counted, sometimes with the 9's for 9 and a half weeks. The 9's always are gaming hard for the next big donation, like, you're going to give me a notebook. A car. Their alcoholic mother will suggest you have a kid, get married in a church, and buy a house in saquarema in their name. Good for them, they are only 18-21 once, and only 10% of them are 9+, so make that money like a pro soccer player. Its just after 2 years of playing the game of lies over drinks and hash that it gets old. Yeah my situation is different from most in that I live here on a retirement that is multiples of what a man needs in Rio. I appreciate your description of fucking the models on TV or the billboard in SP in Scandallo, which I went to, and where I remember there is no beach nearby which makes a difference to me, but probably not to most.

I had my 9 and a half week mini relationship with a 9 who dances better than Penelope / renatinha in the end of the "off season" -- Oct. Dec. But then the high season of new years came around and she was like, guys offer me 2000 r overnight, and I was like, not me, GTFO. But the 9 and a half weeks was fun, and I recommend it. You have to work up to coming to Rio for several months at a time.

The best thing is a high low mix -- always have a 9 in the mix, and a few 6 or 7's who stay as long as you want and are actually good to live with if you want.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2692279]I think the main distinction that you mentioned that you actually live in rio should be noted. While I would say 95% of posters are only vacationing for 4-7 days on average to 15 days on the high end. To the guys who are only here for a short amount of time a 6 who can clean and cook isn't really a priority. We want the 9 that will satisfy our fantasies and desires to bang the hottest girls that Brazil has to offer. Most of us coming from US / EU and especially the ones taking connecting flights making that 9+HR flight isn't doing all that for a 6 who can clean and cook. In fact for some posters that 6 is a wife / girlfriend waiting back at home LOL FOMO is also a big factor as you said some of these top girls are here for a bit and disappear for weeks to months. Best to get them when you can.

I've actually been with Penelope and my friend was with Retinha and they are definitely top girls for sure! But as you said the best looking girls are mostly in Barra and are civilians with boyfriends / husbands that only speak Porto which is a shame. For most poster there is simply not much time to find a girl you can click with that you can take a swing club in Barra and try to get some rich Barra Guacha on top of being very well versed in Porto. That's quite a tall order.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2692459]Over these covid years, I've had 3-5 girls a week, sex 2-3 times a day, 14 pops a week when I counted, sometimes with the 9's for 9 and a half weeks. The 9's always are gaming hard for the next big donation, like, you're going to give me a notebook. A car. Their alcoholic mother will suggest you have a kid, get married in a church, and buy a house in saquarema in their name. Good for them, they are only 18-21 once, and only 10% of them are 9+, so make that money like a pro soccer player. Its just after 2 years of playing the game of lies over drinks and hash that it gets old. Yeah my situation is different from most in that I live here on a retirement that is multiples of what a man needs in Rio. I appreciate your description of fucking the models on TV or the billboard in SP in Scandallo, which I went to, and where I remember there is no beach nearby which makes a difference to me, but probably not to most.

I had my 9 and a half week mini relationship with a 9 who dances better than Penelope / renatinha in the end of the "off season" -- Oct. Dec. But then the high season of new years came around and she was like, guys offer me 2000 r overnight, and I was like, not me, GTFO. But the 9 and a half weeks was fun, and I recommend it. You have to work up to coming to Rio for several months at a time.

The best thing is a high low mix -- always have a 9 in the mix, and a few 6 or 7's who stay as long as you want and are actually good to live with if you want.[/QUOTE]I would like to see a picture of your 9 and I am sure others would to. Out of pure curiosity of course. I agree with your methods 100% and if I was in the same situation, I would probably chart the same course.

Not going to happen.

But as I said she was a better dancer than either Penelope or renatinha in Oct.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2692551]I would like to see a picture of your 9 and I am sure others would to. Out of pure curiosity of course. I agree with your methods 100% and if I was in the same situation, I would probably chart the same course.[/QUOTE]

Ever since reading Shantaram, the novel by Roberts a few years ago, I generally don't post pictures anymore. Just book your next trip and find your next 9.

I would also say, as long as we are on the subject, that a 6 can quickly become an 8 if you help her a little with make up and cloths, and it's kind of nice to have a regular GF for a while instead of a hoar who is constantly pushing to get a higher cpf (cost per fuck), and all the other BS that goes with hoaring.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2692551]I would like to see a picture of your 9 and I am sure others would to. Out of pure curiosity of course. I agree with your methods 100% and if I was in the same situation, I would probably chart the same course.[/QUOTE]

Anne Amari solid morning bang.

So we woke up in the love shack in the clouds above the Atlantic coast, I went downstairs to the little food corner where you can buy the basics but all you need on a credit card, and got some stuff to make misto quente (ham, cheese, bread), and came back up, did some work while overlooking the peaceful Atlantic beach, clean, and with a view that extends into the shipping lanes south of RJ, and dead on the air routes of the oil service birds, and did a bunch of spreadsheet work, the kind of squeeky crap that demands a fuck, which I did in fact then get.

So here's how to fuck a Brazilian girl.

Play Felipe ret.

In Portuguese, bote Felipe ret.

The whole album.

Revel or audaz.

[URL]https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&list=PLtEgn7Ed9MDHnwzh7ogQcFaW6IvlJPh5v[/URL]

This is 99% of what you need to know about sex in Brazil.

Play felipe Ret.

The sense of hearing is one of the last we lose when we die, and death in literature has been equated to orgasm, something about brain chemistry and organization that the doctors in the group will no doubt seize on and explain.

So, again, you fuck or try to take steps towards fucking anywhere in Brazil, play Felipe ret.

On the beach.

In VM.

In 4 x4.

In Perola negra.

In mosaico.

Hotel California by sambo is good too.

Speaking of which, when you are not fucking, play porta dos fundos.

[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk[/URL]

OK, now that I have helped your sex life in Brazil by multiples, I will get to the sex.

She spent an hour in the bathroom while I crunched numbers. By the way, financial advice to all rich world men: just come to Brazil, you will become richer simple due to the cost of living.

And your dick will thank you.

So, then she comes out of the bathroom, and she sits in my lap, all pretty and made up and smelling nice, and we kiss on the couch, then go to the bed, and we hit it for 30 minutes judging by the Felipe ret album timing, all positions, BBFS.

I played Anne Amari's single scene on evil angel, which is pretty hot for a solo scene, and on the laptop I played Noemi bilas with mark woods in the backyard pool and living room of some fucked up san Fernando valley love shack.

My fantasy du jour was Noemie bilas widening Anne Amari's asshole with all sizes of anal toys since anne Amari is a anal virgin, and that is unacceptable in the roissy, the love shack of the story of O, which I must recreate here for the worthy few (get a test men), if I ever get around to it.

Rio street carnival is good if you're young and willing to enjoy the parades all day long under a boiling sun LOL. It will mostly depend if you are good looking and willing to meet new people then trying to fuck some random girl or whatever. I ended up fucking girls I already knew and this one girl I know from twitter, met her at Pedra do Sal, we made out then I took her to some empt street and she gave me a very nice BJ between some cars (I got the video of that fun).

[QUOTE=Sperto;2690158]Not a single report about the ongoing Rio carnival.[/QUOTE]

Ended up going to 4 x 4 last Thursday, arrived around 8 pm. Took a nice shower, put on the robe and went hunting. I was checking the girls but none who caught my attention until Laura arrived, I remembered seeing her last time I was there. She's blonde, around 1,60 meters, nice silicone tits and a nice round ass. I told her I'd enjoy teasing her by rubbing my cock on her pussy and ass before wearing a condom and she said lets go. We barely entered the cabin and I went straight to eat her ass, gave her some good tongue fucking before teasing my cock in her ass, when I noticed I was fucking her ass bare. The 30 min session was basically that with her pussy and ass bare. Two nuts in her mouth which she didn't swallow sadly LOL. Saved her phone number for some outcall. Lets see if she got another girl for a BBFS 3 some there.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2684697]I know there is a "Living" section but it doesn't seem to get much traffic, so I figured I would ask here. I am looking to purchase a house in Rio by the end of the year. (Phallus gave me a great tip on the area where he has his home). I think one of the biggest issues I am facing in deciding Where in Rio I would like to live. I don't think I want to be in the middle of the tornado in Copa, but I don't want to be more than 40 minutes away in case I want some action and I don't want to spend more than 150 k dollars. I was hoping I could hear some feedback from members who actually purchased property as to why they chose the area they live in.

I have looked in Recreio, Jacarepagu, Niteroi, Ilha do Governador and Barra. I even talked to some locals about moving into Vidigal or Babilnia.[/QUOTE]After talking to a number of Brasilians who live in America, I think I have changed my mind about buying property in brasil and instead will look to rent instead. Literally every brasilian I spoke to had a negative reaction when speaking about buying property in brasil! "They all said they wouldn't do it because the risk of being robbed buy the seller, lawyer, bank, etc is too great. " Each one had a horror story and tried to pursude me from risking my money.

I was very surprised because I figured if you had a good lawyer, you had nothing to worry about in terms of making sure all the paperwork was legit. But after listening to these brasilians, it seems like a huge gamble to purchase property in Rio. I might as well use my money to purchase another rental property in the states and use the proceeds to pay my rent in brasil.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2693637]After talking to a number of Brasilians who live in America, I think I have changed my mind about buying property in brasil and instead will look to rent instead. [/QUOTE]Good to know that you came to your senses.

All immobile assets carry risks, the USA especially with state / Federal / mechanics liens, fucked up titles, predatory, intrusive, banks and a politically and judicially protected class of blackmailers, known as lawyers, who are in the shakedown business of made up claims and know a payoff is cheaper than defending their nonsense (no loser pays legal costs in USA, so 100% upside for these bandits). Then there are property taxes, which should be called other peoples reproductive choices and fat pension for city officials cushy jobs tax). People with expensive toys get robbed in the USA all the time. Men can additionally expect to get hit up on divorce, bullshit pregnancy / child support and so on from predatory women (also a risky a business. That's why we are here, hahah). USA is a predatory, financialized industry nation that screws over the common man in just about any area you look. P4P is illegal and many stings and traps with tatooed, stupid and or drug infested ugly entitled hos that only have a vagina as their claim to fame. Renting is also bad, as you are little more than a squatter with little or no rights, people do not take you seriously, "oh, just a renter", and a system stacked against you, with a few rare exceptions, such as Germany and commercial leases.

Owning stuff requires a good team of lawyers and accountants (think yearly cost to play levy), shell companies, nominees and much more, and is good advice anywhere for anything. As for me, the team of carpenters, painters etc are just about done, I'm ahead about 10% on currency, ocean views, leafy road, breeze, a vegetable garden, seclusion, my own personal orgy pad, and easy access to the subways. Brazil also has good and cheap health care relative to the USA. What I paid would not buy a shit hole in London, NYC, Miami or LA that are hyped up on a credit bubble and bad value. I can afford it and have no regrets. The amount of profound orgasms with nubile 20 year olds and big smile on my face also generates a financial return on assets, just because it is cannot be conventionally measured does not mean it is not real. Let me put it another way. At death the value of your stuff and convertibility falls to zero.

That's it. Cost and quality of living to income ratio. USA, bad. Brazil is dirt cheap, endless sex and massage and friendly people, and earn $ elsewhere, though there are some solid BR companies with international revenue and dividends.

If your work allows it, live cheaply, simply and happily, shun status jedi mind tricks, make every dollar earned an investment bee and remember compound interest. Arbitrage living costs to earning.

Well said, and if it is money you can lose, then good on ya.

Senor Bravo too is spot on about the value of putting your capital into assets in your rich world country where you know the language, law and system that produces enough income to rent in Brazil, but still be able to GTFO if necessary.

I enjoyed our meal at Na Brasa Colombia, and look forward to another soon.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2693929]All immobile assets carry risks, the USA especially with state / Federal / mechanics liens, fucked up titles, predatory, intrusive, banks and a politically and judicially protected class of blackmailers, known as lawyers, who are in the shakedown business of made up claims and know a payoff is cheaper than defending their nonsense (no loser pays legal costs in USA, so 100% upside for these bandits). Then there are property taxes, which should be called other peoples reproductive choices and fat pension for city officials cushy jobs tax). People with expensive toys get robbed in the USA all the time. Men can additionally expect to get hit up on divorce, bullshit pregnancy / child support and so on from predatory women (also a risky a business. That's why we are here, hahah). USA is a predatory, financialized industry nation that screws over the common man in just about any area you look. P4P is illegal and many stings and traps with tatooed, stupid and or drug infested ugly entitled hos that only have a vagina as their claim to fame. Renting is also bad, as you are little more than a squatter with little or no rights, people do not take you seriously, "oh, just a renter", and a system stacked against you, with a few rare exceptions, such as Germany and commercial leases..[/QUOTE]

I have a one day layover at Rio and will probably stay near Copacabana. As I have very less time and being little less adventurous, I was thinking of trying a spa where I can get a decent girl offering sex. Not really interested in massage.

So my noob question is what are the going rates of massage parlours in Rio? Is the counter charges inclusive of extra services inside or they are separate. If extra services charges is separate then what are the usual rate for full service / sex.

Apologies for too many noobie questions. This is my first visit to Brazil and language is a big problem here.

Are thermas similar to a HK club in Tijuana? If not is there anything similar to that in Rio? I like to relax and drink in a club for a little bit before choosing a girl.

I will be there in June staying at Copacabana beach. Where can I go to gwt a massage with full service ending?

[QUOTE=RandomPilot;2694878]Are thermas similar to a HK club in Tijuana? If not is there anything similar to that in Rio? I like to relax and drink in a club for a little bit before choosing a girl.[/QUOTE]You want to go to the ones in centro like 4x4 to get something similar but they are still not the same.

[QUOTE=RandomPilot;2694878]I like to relax and drink in a club for a little bit before choosing a girl.[/QUOTE]This you can get at all termas.

According to the bubba boy guide, " you have to be a selfish, uncaring bastard to be a successful monger."

In part for self interest, I have been spending most of my time lately with homegirl. I need to do a bunch of work, and she stays and never asks for money. I also like doing things with her, like hiking. We went on a great hike yesterday. I bought her some nice cloths and a pack at decathlon, which she was thrilled with, and me too in seeing her with the nice stuff as opposed to the usual carioca lower income clothing. She also went to the academia (gym) in whites only de facto barra where I live in Transamerica. And I like the sex, which we have at least once a day. Though the number of pops is less than my often 4 a day, the actual time in heart zone training is about the same, upwards of 40 minutes of total fucking. So, in my own way, I am being selfish in keeping around a girl all the time. Plus, I do enjoy her company. She says she wants to do a dupla with a blond, so that will happen.

After all these almost 760 days of straight hoaring, it is nice to have some stability. She actually does help with some tasks.

The biggest factor in keeping or kicking her out is simply language -- sound. I want to listen to english language video, and she gets ready to leave when I play an hour of a english language show.

She wants to order food on iFood, but she can't do all the steps as I have my phone set to english.

Etc.

So, here's a protip for all you mongers coming into Rio or Brazil:

Learn Portuguese by watching Porto dos fundos on youtube with English subtitles.

Just do it.

Yes, you, sitting in your mother's house in Wisconsin gaming on your fucking huge gamer desktop. Put in that headset, and open another window, and listen to porta dos fundos. You'll be glad you did!

You might also set your phone to Portuguese and try to function.

Just saying.

Oh, and work out.

It is true, Vagabundo needs to drop some kilograms. That is because fucking and eating with teenagers for 760 days will build some bad habits, which is to say, I need to let her eat the KFC alone while I drink just a water and whey protein shake. Harder said than done.

Ramble on, fellas.

Hey Vagabundo,

You are amazing man!

I agree with you. For those who are staying on Long term in Brazil, that's the best way to live happily.

BTW, how do you manage to enjoy 4 pops a day?

Are you just 21 yrs?

Please share some health tips to stay strong down there for longer life.

Health is Wealth!

I wish you a healthy and long life ahead.

Thanks again for amazing posts. I would love to meet you in person maybe next weekend when I'll be in Barra.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2696127]According to the bubba boy guide, " you have to be a selfish, uncaring bastard to be a successful monger."

In part for self interest, I have been spending most of my time lately with homegirl. I need to do a bunch of work, and she stays and never asks for money. I also like doing things with her, like hiking. We went on a great hike yesterday. I bought her some nice cloths and a pack at decathlon, which she was thrilled with, and me too in seeing her with the nice stuff as opposed to the usual carioca lower income clothing. She also went to the academia (gym) in whites only de facto barra where I live in Transamerica. And I like the sex, which we have at least once a day. Though the number of pops is less than my often 4 a day, the actual time in heart zone training is about the same, upwards of 40 minutes of total fucking. So, in my own way, I am being selfish in keeping around a girl all the time. Plus, I do enjoy her company. She says she wants to do a dupla with a blond, so that will happen..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2696127]According to the bubba boy guide, " you have to be a selfish, uncaring bastard to be a successful monger."

.....[/QUOTE]He said that? Then I must be an unsuccessful monger who has banged thousands of working girls over the last 5 decades.