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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2660193]Sharks is re-open on February 7 2022.
Ok let's try BB69 strategy to see if works or Not. LOL.
But definitely my way works that ask AG new to business girls to relocate to Sharks and accept current Sharks rate 100430 or 150460.[/QUOTE]But my Eli or Natalia or your not kissing or CBJ Hana don t have level for sex for Sharks where french kiss and BBBJ are quite standard and even for 100/60 with some pretties. At least my 2021 experience there and I won t even repeat for 40 at Gold when I don t pay to chat but for sex quality meaning french kissing, BBBJ, DATY and woman vagina.
Rather than appartment, some Sharks girls moved to Saarland clubs when Sharks was closed. Escorting may not be so good. Most of girls have home club, let s see if they return or stay in Saarland.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2660193]Sharks is re-open on February 7 2022.
Ok let's try BB69 strategy to see if works or Not. LOL.
But definitely my way works that ask AG new to business girls to relocate to Sharks and accept current Sharks rate 100430 or 150460.[/QUOTE]Please stop that awful trolling.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2660019]Hang on a minute. You consider paying girls the standard rate at the club which they work as "exploiting" them?
Regardless, Cheers to AmSexyBoy for posting the Hessen government info and I hope Sharks reopens soon.[/QUOTE]When I never play grocer with girls because killing my desire, I accept their rate or not. Eli is lovely 173 fresh full natural model type but not good in bed for me. She didn't complain about money I gave her. At the beginning of room, she asked 1 stunde? I stayed only 30 mn when was difficult to finish despite her sexy ass and my last girl was 27 days ago at Cleo. Ch, but no dream with Eli level despite her beauty.
Sharks reopen today. Now will wait for A team after Olympics, but I m pretty sure Sharks will be best club in FKK land with 6 and Samya sometimes, when Globe and seem GT Vienna are falling, Wellcum is on Italians level, Cleo is lower than Sharks and long time girls killed Oase level.
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You care about happiness of other polar bears.
I care about girls with my money. Done!
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2660348]Please stop that awful trolling.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DrPoon;2660219]Can you send the address and info of the pharmacy in Germany that does the exchange and also is the EU certificate a paper copy for people who have low battery life on phone?[/QUOTE]Many pharmacies do this, but I went to Einhorn-Apotheke in Ludwigsplatz 1 in Darmstadt. They give you the paper version of the EU certificate, which also includes a long code that you can enter in the Corona-Warn app, so that you have it on your phone too.
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Has anyone ever licked feet of girls and sucked toes while having sex at sharks?
If yes, how did the girl react? Does she let you do or does she refused looking at you as a weird person?
I often notice that I would like to kick feet and suck toes but I'm always afraid that the girl could refuse or react bad looking at me as a strange person.
Could you please share your experience on that?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2660562]Has anyone ever licked feet of girls and sucked toes while having sex at sharks?
If yes, how did the girl react? Does she let you do or does she refused looking at you as a weird person?
I often notice that I would like to kick feet and suck toes but I'm always afraid that the girl could refuse or react bad looking at me as a strange person.
Could you please share your experience on that?[/QUOTE]Why don't you try with Luana / Florentina if she is not kissing. Maybe her feet smell, so she doesn't want to kiss after licking hers.
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Sharks open?
Hello,
I want ti visit Germany the end of February, is Sharks open right now?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2660572]Why don't you try with Luana / Florentina if she is not kissing. Maybe her feet smell, so she doesn't want to kiss after licking hers.[/QUOTE]Basic sex always with her so I don't think she allows to kick her feet.
Anyway you didn't answer my question...
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[QUOTE=LoveGirls60;2660638]Hello,
I want ti visit Germany the end of February, is Sharks open right now?[/QUOTE]Yes, with a 2 G+!
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2660912]Basic sex always with her so I don't think she allows to kick her feet.
Anyway you didn't answer my question...[/QUOTE]I'm sorry I can't help you for your fetish.
Bad point for Sharks if FFP2 is compulsory, may kill my desire.
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[QUOTE=LoveGirls60;2660638]Hello,
I want ti visit Germany the end of February, is Sharks open right now?[/QUOTE]Yes, look on website.
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[QUOTE=LoveGirls60;2660638]Hello,
I want ti visit Germany the end of February, is Sharks open right now?[/QUOTE]Yes, it was open yesterday and open today right now. But please check with the club on the day of your visit as stupid government in Hessen / Germany can close them again anytime.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2660562]Has anyone ever licked feet of girls and sucked toes while having sex at sharks?
[/QUOTE]Girls like to charge 50 euro extra for stuff like that. I would negotiate that ahead of time.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2660941]Yes, look on website.[/QUOTE]Sirioja, when do you recommend to go back to Sharks again, that is, when the lineup is going to be great again? Is it going to be not as good this weekend? Maybe better to wait for next weekend?
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Can you give us some report on who was at the club and how many girls was working? Would be good for all of us to know if its worth to go.
[QUOTE=Gino02;2660985]Yes, it was open yesterday and open today right now. But please check with the club on the day of your visit as stupid government in Hessen / Germany can close them again anytime.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2660562]Could you please share your experience on that?[/QUOTE]I think a regular working girl in any club has heard way worse than that.
Yes, they will probably ask for more moneys.
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[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2661500]Can you give us some report on who was at the club and how many girls was working? Would be good for all of us to know if its worth to go.[/QUOTE]I might go this weekend, I'll post a report if I do.
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[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2661500]Can you give us some report on who was at the club and how many girls was working? Would be good for all of us to know if its worth to go.[/QUOTE]I would do a report but I'm not going until exactly three weeks time which will probably be too late for you.
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[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2661500]Can you give us some report on who was at the club and how many girls was working? Would be good for all of us to know if its worth to go.[/QUOTE]You need to really visit to be able to give fresh real information, not only reading other forums. I prefer Olympics at the moment, I will go after. I know staff try their best, but I wish FFP2 won't be too compulsory.
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[QUOTE=Hktj26;2661355]Sirioja, when do you recommend to go back to Sharks again, that is, when the lineup is going to be great again? Is it going to be not as good this weekend? Maybe better to wait for next weekend?[/QUOTE]I didn't go yet but I think many girls and most of A team should return for beginning of March. Maybe few will stay in Saarland where they moved to other clubs, when girls usually return to home club. At the moment, should be mostly girls living in Germany and in business for a while.
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I am heading there this weekend so I'll be able to see by myself. I have a sentiment it is a disaster at the moment but since I am passing by, I have nothing to lose. Will give my take about it afterwards.
[QUOTE=Canary;2661698]I would do a report but I'm not going until exactly three weeks time which will probably be too late for you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LiveBoarding;2661970]I am heading there this weekend so I'll be able to see by myself. I have a sentiment it is a disaster at the moment but since I am passing by, I have nothing to lose. Will give my take about it afterwards.[/QUOTE]Maybe not A team casting yet, but should not be a disaster. I would say 40/50 girls on Friday and Saturday. A team will return.
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According to "Jack Sparrow" from listcout, the lineup was disaster.
"Most girls are totally out of shape physically.
And the 2-3 stunners are known for modest naturist service.
Few three-legged friends. Accordingly, the girls weren't amused.
Several complaints observed. "
I will wait until May or June.
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For those who went tonight, let us know how the line up was in the morning.
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[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2662102]According to "Jack Sparrow" from listcout, the lineup was disaster.
"Most girls are totally out of shape physically.
And the 2-3 stunners are known for modest naturist service.
Few three-legged friends. Accordingly, the girls weren't amused.
Several complaints observed. "
I will wait until May or June.[/QUOTE]Maybe again German bullshits, like on 2021 reopening with 10 guys for 1 girl ratio, was very wrong, to keep tourists away and keep girls for them. Better to know how work this business, how behave guys. Germans are not reference for me. I will only trust what I will see.
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[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2662102]According to "Jack Sparrow" from listcout, the lineup was disaster.
"Most girls are totally out of shape physically.
And the 2-3 stunners are known for modest naturist service.
Few three-legged friends. Accordingly, the girls weren't amused.
Several complaints observed. "
I will wait until May or June.[/QUOTE]I agree with that opinion. Notably these days, this club has more girls than other clubs, but fewer hot girls. Even a girl recommended by a self-proclaimed regular is incomparable to my favorite girl at other clubs. Poor service, yet they are even more hungry for money.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2662081]Maybe not A team casting yet, but should not be a disaster. I would say 40/50 girls on Friday and Saturday. A team will return.[/QUOTE]Confirmed for not top A team yet, but other girls for those who can't control balls too painful.
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[QUOTE=ShinieStone;2662266]I agree with that opinion. Notably these days, this club has more girls than other clubs, but fewer hot girls. Even a girl recommended by a self-proclaimed regular is incomparable to my favorite girl at other clubs. Poor service, yet they are even more hungry for money.[/QUOTE]Did you visit since reopening on Monday?
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I wish -beauty Hannah could move to Sharks
According to a girl who still has connection with me, that current Sharks lineup is average. Not many new comers. Most girls work in FKK Industry for years, some of them could be 8 or 10 years.
About the level of most current WGs in Sharks, TBH, I would charge them 100/ hour instead of paying them if I went to zimmers with them.
I spotted a new gem in Aca Gold two weeks ago. Hannah, 19 yo from Romania, about 165-170 cm, slim. Very pretty, fresh, teen type GND. Just in business for a month.
Many well-frogs polar bears blamed me over-paid Hannah 150/ hour. However I think Hannah deserves the money. The purpose I paid her more is to keep her longer because I wish I could see her again.
I wish Hannah could move to Sharks to get prevalent pay rate 150/ hour.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2662339]Confirmed for not top A team yet, but other girls for those who can't control balls too painful.[/QUOTE]I will visit Germany late February, hopefully all girls will come back.
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[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2662102]According to "Jack Sparrow" from listcout, the lineup was disaster.
"Most girls are totally out of shape physically.
And the 2-3 stunners are known for modest naturist service.
Few three-legged friends. Accordingly, the girls weren't amused.
Several complaints observed. "
I will wait until May or June.[/QUOTE]What is listcout? Can someone enlighten me on this?
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2662472]What is listcout? Can someone enlighten me on this?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/index.php[/URL]
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I just got back from Sharks. There were some good things and some bad things.
Good things:
- They didn't even check my COVID pass, but they know I'm a regular and vaccinated.
- You don't have to wear masks once you're past the lobby.
- There were about 50+ women there, about 10 were doable.
- You can still find hot women offering 50-70 euros for 30 minutes, but it just takes a lot of time to find them.
- There was plenty of space to sit on a couch or at the bar, usually both are full.
Bad things:
- There were too many fat overweight whales there. Just disgusting to look at. I don't even know why they're allowed to work there.
- Many top stunners were not there, specifically the beautiful tall Romanian who sits in the back.
- Parking is still bad (unless there's another place to park that I don't know about).
- The music is horrible, they really need to fix it.
- The price to service ratio from some women is stupid. 100 euros for 30 minutes is a fair payment, but some women believe it means they should offer the bare minimum basic service and rush you.
- Some women just don't take no for an answer. You tell them no, then 30 minutes later they're asking you again.
- Some women wanted more than 100 euros for 30 minutes or tried to upsell me, to me that's crazy. They barely offer decent service as it is, I'm not going to pay them more.
- Your mask, which much be the KN95 even if you're not wearing it, will absorb all the smoke in the room. So you'll need a new one after your visit.
- Too many women chain smokers, yeah some are still hot, but it's very sad to see.
I might got to Sharks again in April, but for now I'm done. If you've already been there 4-5 times and had all your favorite women, you're not missing anything. Too many fat overweight women walking around, and too much of a gamble to know if you're going to get good service from the hot ones.
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[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2662477][URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/index.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Danke mein freund.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2662417]According to a girl who still has connection with me, that current Sharks lineup is average. Not many new comers. Most girls work in FKK Industry for years, some of them could be 8 or 10 years.
About the level of most current WGs in Sharks, TBH, I would charge them 100/ hour instead of paying them if I went to zimmers with them.
I spotted a new gem in Aca Gold two weeks ago. Hannah, 19 yo from Romania, about 165-170 cm, slim. Very pretty, fresh, teen type GND. Just in business for a month.
Many well-frogs polar bears blamed me over-paid Hannah 150/ hour. However I think Hannah deserves the money. The purpose I paid her more is to keep her longer because I wish I could see her again.
I wish Hannah could move to Sharks to get prevalent pay rate 150/ hour.[/QUOTE]You can spend your money as you like when others pay 40/30 for your Hana and no kissing and CBJ is bad service when I'm used to better at Gold, even with 173 Eli who was not good for sex for me, so your Hana should not get busy for long with such low level in bed, when French kissing and BBBJ are quite standard at Sharks. Better to be fresh and pretty but also good for sex, to worth 150/60. I paid this for only one who is 180 fresh natural supermodel and was really fresh full GFE level. I think Gold is good choice for her level and good crowd in club. Keep on paying her double rate compare to others, she should run to you, good test.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2662496]I just got back from Sharks. There were some good things and some bad things.
Good things:
- They didn't even check my COVID pass, but they know I'm a regular and vaccinated.
- You don't have to wear masks once you're past the lobby.
- There were about 50+ women there, about 10 were doable.
- You can still find hot women offering 50-70 euros for 30 minutes, but it just takes a lot of time to find them.
- There was plenty of space to sit on a couch or at the bar, usually both are full.
Bad things:
- There were too many fat overweight whales there. Just disgusting to look at. I don't even know why they're allowed to work there.
- Many top stunners were not there, specifically the beautiful tall Romanian who sits in the back.
- Parking is still bad (unless there's another place to park that I don't know about).
- The music is horrible, they really need to fix it.
- The price to service ratio from some women is stupid. 100 euros for 30 minutes is a fair payment, but some women believe it means they should offer the bare minimum basic service and rush you.
- Some women just don't take no for an answer. You tell them no, then 30 minutes later they're asking you again..[/QUOTE]Your tall Romanian was elected Miss Sharks 2021. She returned home for holidays before Christmas.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2662496]I just got back from Sharks. There were some good things and some bad things.
- You can still find hot women offering 50-70 euros for 30 minutes, but it just takes a lot of time to find them.
[/QUOTE]Is the girl really hot?
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2662496]I just got back from Sharks. There were some good things and some bad things.
Good things:
- They didn't even check my COVID pass, but they know I'm a regular and vaccinated.
- You don't have to wear masks once you're past the lobby.
- There were about 50+ women there, about 10 were doable.
- You can still find hot women offering 50-70 euros for 30 minutes, but it just takes a lot of time to find them.
- There was plenty of space to sit on a couch or at the bar, usually both are full.
Bad things:[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for taking the time to write a comprehensive report.
You say there were pluses & negatives but there seems more negatives than positives which is a shame especially as I managed to bring my flight forward to visit in just two weeks time. Just my luck!! Hopefully things may have just slightly improved by then?
A few small questions if I may please?
Are all the wellness facilities open, whirlpools, saunas etc?
I agree with you the food is absolutely awful but has the Asian food returned, it was the best of a poor lot?
Do you have any names of girls who happily accept the 100 for one hour service, I know the Thai with large bolt ones use to?
Do you have any names of ladies present, especially the stunners, I will visit on a Saturday too?
We're there any / many professional massage people working?
If you have had both jabs and the booster do you have to take a test at the door?
Lastly I noticed during my last visit in late November the cleanliness of the club especially in the changing room had declined, would you agree this is still the case?
I don't mind blowing a few euros and extending bookings if it's a great service but I'm very selective when choosing. Obviously occasionally I get it wrong but often I'm fairly lucky. Some girls as you say try to take you for mugs but that's life I suppose, particularly in these places.
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[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2662477][URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/index.php[/URL][/QUOTE]More than 50 girls on Friday and Saturday, even no Miss Sharks nor Brenda. Girls should return if Sharks keep on opening. Funny to read this German forum, I think mostly German writers or locals, but paying more expensive than me a wow GFE in bed, cute full natural without faintest tattoo Moldavian. Would it be really true some girls don t ask same rate to all of us? When they already don t behave same. Germans pay expensive 100/30.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2662081]Maybe not A team casting yet, but should not be a disaster. I would say 40/50 girls on Friday and Saturday. A team will return.[/QUOTE]Good point if silicon granny left and stay away from Sharks because I don t know when I will return, I am patient and can control enough to wait for beauties to return, when she killed my eyes and mood, I don t drive more than 1000 kms and pay entry to see this. I remember my regular at Bruggen telling: how is it possible, when seeing her. Enigma oldie, I will never understand young guys going with her and returning with banana on face, even I know many guys are lacking confidence with beautiful women.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]Thank you so much for taking the time to write a comprehensive report.[/QUOTE]No problem.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
You say there were pluses & negatives but there seems more negatives than positives which is a shame especially as I managed to bring my flight forward to visit in just two weeks time. Just my luck!! Hopefully things may have just slightly improved by then?[/QUOTE]It's still worth going to, it's just not at its peak lineup. Only reason I'm not going for a few more months is I've already been multiple times. There's still enough hot women to make the trip worth it. There's always atleast 4-6 women who are doable.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
Are all the wellness facilities open, whirlpools, saunas etc?[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
I agree with you the food is absolutely awful but has the Asian food returned, it was the best of a poor lot?[/QUOTE]Don't know, I've never tried the food.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
Do you have any names of girls who happily accept the 100 for one hour service, I know the Thai with large bolt ones use to?[/QUOTE]I don't, I'm bad with names. Plus I'm too picky and impatient to try to find such women. It's always been by accident and it was only a couple of times.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
Do you have any names of ladies present, especially the stunners, I will visit on a Saturday too?[/QUOTE]I don't know who will be there on Saturday, I'm bad with names, and my definition of a stunner could be different than yours. There's only 1 woman I will re-visit, and that's the tall Romanian who sit in the back. Someone here knows here name. She's 178 cm, black hair, pale white, Romanian I believe, small tattoos of chilli peppers on her collarbone. Everyone's definition of a stunner is different, but the consensus here is that she meets the criteria.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
We're there any / many professional massage people working?[/QUOTE]Yes there were, but I believe they wanted an appointment.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
If you have had both jabs and the booster do you have to take a test at the door?[/QUOTE]No, I just walked right in, but they know me. If they don't know you, I assume you will have to show proof of vaccination and booster.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
Lastly I noticed during my last visit in late November the cleanliness of the club especially in the changing room had declined, would you agree this is still the case?[/QUOTE]Yes, the locker rooms suck, but I attribute that to the customers being nasty and not the staff who would need to clean it every 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=Canary;2662630]
I don't mind blowing a few euros and extending bookings if it's a great service but I'm very selective when choosing. Obviously occasionally I get it wrong but often I'm fairly lucky. Some girls as you say try to take you for mugs but that's life I suppose, particularly in these places.[/QUOTE]I would imagine most men are very selective, 100 euros for a half hour adds up quickly. Even if one is rich, the human body can only shag so much in 1 day.
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[QUOTE=OlgaVaz;2629267]No, sorry something like "Melina" and "Selina" (short pretty one) but I'm hard of hearing and haven't "tuned" my ears to their accent. Anyhow, I found the girls don't really get into it no matter how much they may claim GFE. Not unless you are a regular I imagine.[/QUOTE]Just saw them again yesterday. It was Melina and Tamara. They lied the first time as they are not Moldavian but Romanian. Not that it mattered to me one bit, I guess they just want to spice it up.
Got to use the scooter from the station this time. Saved me some cash for the girls. Upon entering yesterday, they checked my paper CDC vaccine card for my 3 shots. And gave me a KN95 mask (1 euro) to replace my surgical mask. Not sure why as no one wore their masks inside.
Had a nice session with beautiful black girl from Tanzania, Marie. I counted only 3 black ladies. She's got short blonde hair, nice body and pretty face. Really connected with her. Next Daria (the Colombian / Italian with the typical latin kapow body wanted 150 euro for half hour. I thought about it while waiting for her to finish with her regular and decided I was crazy to consider it. Went with Alina, the 6 ft plus Amazon German instead. From Berlin, English was just okay but very friendly and accommodating. Halfway into our session I realized I had my face between her long legs before.
Dinner was fine, not sure where someone said there was asian food as I didn't see it.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2662466]I will visit Germany late February, hopefully all girls will come back.[/QUOTE]Summer will be a telling time. One would expect more and more girls to return as the weeks go by. But when Ramadan hits at the beginning of April this year, and attendance drops as usual, how will the girls react? Will they keep their prices?
With Orthodox Easter for the girls coming at the heels of Ramadan, complicating the picture even more, lineups will surely be poor from end of April through the beginning of May.
As such, prior to the summer, I think the line ups will be more of the same as last year. I'm really more intrigued to see the Sharks situation in June and July. Until then, NRW and Austria seem like better options than Sharks.
At current prices, unless you live close to Darmstadt, why not take the opportunity to explore Vienna or other areas in FKK land?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755]With Orthodox Easter for the girls coming at the heels of Ramadan, complicating the picture even more, lineups will surely be poor from end of April through the beginning of May.[/QUOTE]I was thinking about this recently and wondering if the girls have presumably lost a lot of money because of lockdown whether there will be the usual big mass exodus of girls back home for their Orthodox Easter break?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755]
At current prices, unless you live close to Darmstadt, why not take the opportunity to explore Vienna or other areas in FKK land?[/QUOTE]I'd like to try other places, do you have any suggestions? So far Sharks is the best option, and I like it.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755]Summer will be a telling time. One would expect more and more girls to return as the weeks go by. But when Ramadan hits at the beginning of April this year, and attendance drops as usual, how will the girls react? Will they keep their prices?
With Orthodox Easter for the girls coming at the heels of Ramadan, complicating the picture even more, lineups will surely be poor from end of April through the beginning of May.
As such, prior to the summer, I think the line ups will be more of the same as last year. I'm really more intrigued to see the Sharks situation in June and July. Until then, NRW and Austria seem like better options than Sharks.
At current prices, unless you live close to Darmstadt, why not take the opportunity to explore Vienna or other areas in FKK land?[/QUOTE]Sharks reopened only 6 days ago, patience is strength for this business when rushing is not best. When Oase and Palace are most often almost empty, when World is nearly dead, when Germans pay 100/30 for a girl I give 100/60 , Sharks is one of the best business and for freedom for girls in Germany. I remember elegant Florentina on 2017 who was booked by a German every Friday from 2 pm to midnight, she was fresh like a virgin after and telling: you wait me? When she went to the bar to take drinks to room, but even kind of girl I like, I told her after waiting once: I didn't want to wait anymore, so only 3 rooms and no more. I wish for many Florentina style in FKK land, we laughed in elephant room, my twin.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2662816]I'd like to try other places, do you have any suggestions? So far Sharks is the best option, and I like it.[/QUOTE]I hear ya, I'll always remember the wow factor I had a Sharks on my first years of visiting the club. By the time I got to Sharks, I had already seen the likes of GT, World, Globe, etc but Sharks was the first place I saw that had over 100 girls with over 25-30 I found worth taking to a room. For me the peak line ups of 2016 with over 150 girls at one time was the apex of quality plus quantity at any club.
But those times have passed or at least temporarily put on hold. With their current prices and lower quality in optics and service level, Sharks has lost the competitive edge over places like Globe, Welcum, or GoldenTime Vienna.
At least at Globe, you are guaranteed good service for a similar price with quality-controlled optics. At GT Vienna and Welcum, you get similar optics as Sharks for two-thirds of the current room cost.
Unless Sharks' prices come down, I can't think of a good reason outside of nostalgia or familiarity to visit it over those other clubs. And even if one eventually goes back to Sharks or if prices eventually settle, for now you don't stand to lose anything visiting other previously higher priced clubs. In fact, considering opportunity cost, now is the best time.
GT Vienna would be the easiest transition from a cost and logistics perspective. Welcum in Villach would be worth it just to experience an all-inclusive club with better food, amenities, and an in-house hotel. Globe would still be pricier but what better time to experience the famous Globe when price differences aren't so great?
I say all of this not having visited the other clubs since the pandemic. But I don't hear reports of prices going up like at Sharks. One should probably verify that line ups are still on par as previous years.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2662816]I'd like to try other places, do you have any suggestions? So far Sharks is the best option, and I like it.[/QUOTE]Still some good girls for 100/60 at Sharks, even some may not ask same rate to all of us. Wellcum is below for level in bed. Not sure GT Vienna is still what it was and 200/60 for real GFE there. Lower level for looks now at Globe where 260/60.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755]Summer will be a telling time. One would expect more and more girls to return as the weeks go by. But when Ramadan hits at the beginning of April this year, and attendance drops as usual, how will the girls react? Will they keep their prices?
With Orthodox Easter for the girls coming at the heels of Ramadan, complicating the picture even more, lineups will surely be poor from end of April through the beginning of May.
As such, prior to the summer, I think the line ups will be more of the same as last year. I'm really more intrigued to see the Sharks situation in June and July. Until then, NRW and Austria seem like better options than Sharks.
At current prices, unless you live close to Darmstadt, why not take the opportunity to explore Vienna or other areas in FKK land?[/QUOTE]I don't see how Ramadan has any effect. If the Turks being the ones who celebrate Ramadan then they can't eat or drink during the daytime, so then they can come to the club at night or better yet, I would think that the Muslims who are going to clubs are not going to fast in the first place.
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[QUOTE=DrPoon;2662862]I don't see how Ramadan has any effect. If the Turks being the ones who celebrate Ramadan then they can't eat or drink during the daytime, so then they can come to the club at night or better yet, I would think that the Muslims who are going to clubs are not going to fast in the first place.[/QUOTE]Every year during Ramadan less guys are in clubs. That's just a consistent development that happens every single year in clubs where Turkish clients frequent. The more Turkish clientele a club has, the more their business is affected by Ramadan. This happens every single year since Turkish clients became prominent in clubs.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662834]I hear ya, I'll always remember the wow factor I had a Sharks on my first years of visiting the club. By the time I got to Sharks, I had already seen the likes of GT, World, Globe, etc but Sharks was the first place I saw that had over 100 girls with over 25-30 I found worth taking to a room. For me the peak line ups of 2016 with over 150 girls at one time was the apex of quality plus quantity at any club.
But those times have passed or at least temporarily put on hold. With their current prices and lower quality in optics and service level, Sharks has lost the competitive edge over places like Globe, Welcum, or GoldenTime Vienna.
At least at Globe, you are guaranteed good service for a similar price with quality-controlled optics. At GT Vienna and Welcum, you get similar optics as Sharks for two-thirds of the current room cost.
Unless Sharks' prices come down, I can't think of a good reason outside of nostalgia or familiarity to visit it over those other clubs. And even if one eventually goes back to Sharks or if prices eventually settle, for now you don't stand to lose anything visiting other previously higher priced clubs. In fact, considering opportunity cost, now is the best time..[/QUOTE]If you really visited like I do, then you would know French kissing, BBBJ, DATY and condom fucking is for 100/30 and 200/60, not 150/60, at GT Vienna. Wellcum is 70/30 but French kissing is really not standard among beauties, many telling: I don't kiss but I suck good, used to Italians. Globe is for 130/30, 200/45, 260/60, but don't always mean real French kiss, I don't even say deep and did you see looks since mid 2019 except Sofia and Adriana, when so many average faces and silicon. When I prefer to pay 100/60 for my elegant real GFE at Sharks, but 100/30 and 150/60 Germans validated, some even paying 200/60 for Angela, is not so bad deal when can attract beauties like supermodel who was elected Miss Sharks. I paid 150/60 only for her rare beauty and so fresh GFE when she arrived, but I could agree to pay 150/60 for wow looks and GFE rather than wasting 100/60 for average or paying 260/60 for less fresh and pretty girls at Globe. Some cheap sex clubs like Gold, Prime and brothers, so everybody can choose, but I look for quality and I know rare or Vanquish is usually more expensive than Tata. Even World, Finca, Bab and 6 , with lower castings increased up to 60/30 and You succeeded to get CBJ for increased rate when I experienced full GFE for 100/60 at 6. Champion of the world flying to visit when A teams are off at home, when all should know from before Christmas to end of January and around Orthodox Easter are not best times for good castings and also on some August. Ability to control help for this business. Rushing painful balls get what is always on business.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2662978]If you really visited like I do, then you would know French kissing, BBBJ, DATY and condom fucking is for 100/30 and 200/60, not 150/60, at GT Vienna. Wellcum is 70/30 but French kissing is really not standard among beauties, many telling: I don't kiss but I suck good, used to Italians. Globe is for 130/30, 200/45, 260/60, but don't always mean real French kiss, I don't even say deep and did you see looks since mid 2019 except Sofia and Adriana, when so many average faces and silicon. When I prefer to pay 100/60 for my elegant real GFE at Sharks, but 100/30 and 150/60 Germans validated, some even paying 200/60 for Angela, is not so bad deal when can attract beauties like supermodel who was elected Miss Sharks. I paid 150/60 only for her rare beauty and so fresh GFE when she arrived, but I could agree to pay 150/60 for wow looks and GFE rather than wasting 100/60 for average or paying 260/60 for less fresh and pretty girls at Globe. Some cheap sex clubs like Gold, Prime and brothers, so everybody can choose, but I look for quality and I know rare or Vanquish is usually more expensive than Tata. Even World, Finca, Bab and 6 , with lower castings increased up to 60/30 and You succeeded to get CBJ for increased rate when I experienced full GFE for 100/60 at 6. Champion of the world flying to visit when A teams are off at home, when all should know from before Christmas to end of January and around Orthodox Easter are not best times for good castings and also on some August. Ability to control help for this business. Rushing painful balls get what is always on business.[/QUOTE]I always got DFK AR Welcum. The girls don't treat every one the same I guess.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755]Summer will be a telling time. One would expect more and more girls to return as the weeks go by. But when Ramadan hits at the beginning of April this year, and attendance drops as usual, how will the girls react? Will they keep their prices?[/QUOTE]My guess is the current prices at Sharks will keep, unless there is some major financial crisis looming that triggers a massive flood of WGs into Germany. But then again, I am just drawing on what happened at Oase to forecast how things might play out at Sharks. From an attendance standpoint, Oase is a graveyard of its past self. Yet the WGs have refused to lower their rates to win back clients. For the WGs, it may offer them a sense of pride to say "I am not a 100 EUR per hour BBBJ DFK WG", even if it means less business and less overall earnings. That is their prerogative. When one is making "enough money", sometimes that additional money is just not worth the additional grind or stress. I spoke to a French guy at Sharks who told me that since the pandemic, he is making 20 percent less pay but also working 30 percent less hours. And he explained that he is happy with this new arrangement.
From speaking to a few regulars who still continue to attend almost every weekend, the number of clients at Sharks is maybe 80-90 percent pre-pandemic, but the traffic in and out rooms is significantly less. Perhaps that is just the new normal.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755]At current prices, unless you live close to Darmstadt, why not take the opportunity to explore Vienna or other areas in FKK land?.[/QUOTE]Agree, unless travelling to Darmstadt is significantly cheaper, more convenient, and closer in proximity than all other options. For instance, UK or overseas mongers could just as easily change their flight ticket from Frankfurt to Vienna, Amsterdam / NRW, or Spain. For people living in Paris, I believe the drive to NRW is cheaper in tolls and about 100 km less.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662755] Unless Sharks' prices come down, I can't think of a good reason outside of nostalgia or familiarity to visit it over those other clubs. And even if one eventually goes back to Sharks or if prices eventually settle, for now you don't stand to lose anything visiting other previously higher priced clubs. In fact, considering opportunity cost, now is the best time.[/QUOTE]RE: Familiarity Sometimes mongers need to lose all their ex-faves, before they finally move on. It is easy to fall into patterns.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2662978] I don't kiss but I suck good, used to Italians..[/QUOTE]What do you mean? What Italians do? And why girls refuse to kiss them?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2663153]What do you mean? What Italians do? And why girls refuse to kiss them?[/QUOTE]Italians who make business at Wellcum don't seem demanding for kissing. Most of the prettiest Wellcum girls don't kiss, but no problem for BBBJ, or CIM with most. French kissing is the most intimate for most girls, even more than AO sex.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2662879]Every year during Ramadan less guys are in clubs. That's just a consistent development that happens every single year in clubs where Turkish clients frequent. The more Turkish clientele a club has, the more their business is affected by Ramadan. This happens every single year since Turkish clients became prominent in clubs.[/QUOTE]Not only Turkish but Muslims, when others than Turkish at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663094]I always got DFK AR Welcum. The girls don't treat every one the same I guess.[/QUOTE]How many times did you visit Wellcum since first covid lockdown, when reopened on beginning of July 2020 and I visited around 8 times since then, to prepare or recover before or after my friend Zoncolan where I would laugh to see heavy Sagan, help him gruppetto, despite electric gears, full of ketons, when I have only my 2 balls.
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Visited Sharks Sunday. Arrival around 15 h, parking almost full. According to most girls I spoke with the week-end was very quiet during the daytime, only got a bit more full after dark. This Sunday a bit the other way around, quite well visited during the day, slowing down after 21 h. I would guess around 70 girls present, quite a lot of new arrivals and some huge surprises for me (a long time no see ex-Globegirl from round 2011 or so last time I saw her and another newbie from back in the days as well). Only a few German girls, 3 black girls so basically the variety wasn't all that great.
Biggest minus was the terrible quality of the food, basically unacceptable for the entry price. They should consider to fix that a little bit because it's gotten quite pathetic when there's no Asian food option if you're too late for breakfast like me this time. I even thought about ordering some food honestly, what was on offer by the club was below par to say the least but ok. The line-up which wasn't great but compared to (almost) the rest of the German clubscene at the moment lightyears above it basically.
1 bad session with Karolin / Caroline which used to work in clubs more in the south of Germany, she was recommended to me by 2 regulars during some chitchat. Well, after 12 minutes I decided to call the session a day and don't waste any more of my and her time. 50 E, that's life. Unbelievable what some people consider good service. A sort of Woody Woodpecker sorta kissing and sucking. No intention to waste more of my time. Black straight hair, 1 m60, speaks German fluently, pale skinned, be / see naturals. Would not recommend although some people seem to be highly impressed by her, can't understand why but ok.
1 ok session with Bettina: relatively new in Sharks (a few months), barely speaks English, no German but plappering a mix of Rumanian semi English with a bit of pasta Italian in between. Black straight hair, 1 m60, be / see naturals, pale skinned, GND-type, very cuddly. No time pressure for presales. Decent all round service, eager to please and wishing to provide good service. She still has to learn and improve but one can't go wrong with her if you are able to handle an energetic gal. 100 for 60 minutes so no upsell.
1 very good session with Renata: in Sharks since a few months. She used to work in LR, Palace and a short while in Switzerland. Suntanned skin,1 m60, see silicone, quite a bit of tatts and piercings. Speaks eloquently English, fun to talk to, no time pressure for all round sales, she knows how to interact with people before and after a session, something Bettina for instance still has to learn in that perspective. Energetic all round service on a high level. Can't go wrong with her. 150 for 60 minutes.
1 very good session with "Greta": she used to work in Globe in the good old days and tries her luck in Germany for a short while probably. Speaks German / English fluently. 1 m80, A / be-naturals, brownish hair. No time pressure and chats about past / present and future in Schwerzenbach and elsewhere. Energetic all round service without any issues, aftersales profi but still. Delivered the same deal for 150 E instead of 420 FR for those which can count.
That's about it. Surely some rather unattractive girls in the line-up of 70/80 but still more than a handful of options whereas these days it became almost impossible to find 1 or 2 in most NRW-clubs. I assume that it will improve in the upcoming weeks but still a quite respectable amount of girls for a club which had just reopened 1 week ago.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2663209]Not only Turkish but Muslims, when others than Turkish at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Some, Not many.
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Düsseldorf, Frankfurt or Zurich are about same for me, when I drive for quality, the most important for me, and best quality found on 2021 even I paid 150/60 for elected Miss was Sharks. Only few girls at 6 could compete. Sad silicon granny returned but from her experience, just show Sharks is best business for girls in Germany. Sharks was at best for me since end of 2016, why I visited around 15 times in 3 months. No visit on August and October.
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Many come on Sunday for entry 50 but before 2 pm, arriving at 3 pm is not very professional, but most don t go to room. For sure, better to have prettier girls than now at Globe and with same GFE level than best at Globe, but without porn images, and for half rate, even when they ask 150/60. And for me, much more relaxing to speed between Luxemburg and Darmstadt than stressing like a snail shot by radars between Basel and Zurich. 100/30 and 150/60 rates may attract beauties who don t agree with Globe rules, when ponytail there is now only able to attract Bulgarians. I saw on tagesplan a Russian supermodel according to height written, but we all know Sofia is never 178 and she was really honest about her real height, but Russian model disappeared when I would have loved to speak Russian with her in bed.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2663153]What do you mean? What Italians do? And why girls refuse to kiss them?[/QUOTE]Italians make Wellcum business and don't seem so demanding to ask for kissing. Even at Globe, some girls say many clients are not kissing. Kissing is the most intimate for most girls, even more than AO.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2663116]My guess is the current prices at Sharks will keep, unless there is some major financial crisis looming that triggers a massive flood of WGs into Germany. But then again, I am just drawing on what happened at Oase to forecast how things might play out at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Now that we are looking at an extended period of quiet COVID activity and thus stability, I'm curious if the girls who have been gone will return to balance the supply side. With 2 years off, coffers must be running dry. What happened at Oase was a deliberate plan by the girls which was often broken in secrecy in the rooms. I'm not so sure Sharks women can maintain that covenant if the line up balloons to higher numbers. Sharks girls have always been more independent than Oase girls as the managers maintain much less control over their comings and goings. Because of this, perhaps Sharks' price pact is more fragile. While your friend may be happier making less but also working less, younger people still trying to get by may be more hungry for cash.
Spermbird's recent review is a little encouraging if his experience can be replicated in other review posts.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2663116]From speaking to a few regulars who still continue to attend almost every weekend, the number of clients at Sharks is maybe 80-90 percent pre-pandemic, but the traffic in and out rooms is significantly less. Perhaps that is just the new normal.
Agree, unless travelling to Darmstadt is significantly cheaper, more convenient, and closer in proximity than all other options. For instance, UK or overseas mongers could just as easily change their flight ticket from Frankfurt to Vienna, Amsterdam / NRW, or Spain. For people living in Paris, I believe the drive to NRW is cheaper in tolls and about 100 km less.
RE: Familiarity Sometimes mongers need to lose all their ex-faves, before they finally move on. It is easy to fall into patterns.[/QUOTE]If this is the new normal, gone are the days of 100 girls as the fewer rooms taken could not support such large line ups.
But yeah, for less than 150 e per hour, one could have a GFE BBBJ DFK room at Welcum, GT Vienna, or Linz, so why not take the opportunity to explore other places when all things otherwise are equal (if not even better). One may even have a better time given the "new club wow" factor. I know I always get a little more giddy at a new club, perhaps even perceiving the line up to be even better than I otherwise would if I frequented that club often.
That may be a problem for some mongers who find comfort in familiarity. However that nostalgic familiarity may be preventing from having new and perhaps better experiences, at least until the Sharks picture becomes more clear.
At the moment, is one missing anything at Sharks? I don't think so. At least not until more new girls arrive.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663673]While your friend may be happier making less but also working less, younger people still trying to get by may be more hungry for cash.[/QUOTE]In the beginning of their career, most WGs seem to overwork themselves. But by the second or third year, they cut back. No more 16 hour days. Longer more frequent trips back home to Romania.
To clarify on previous post, the WGs would still work the same number of hours, but just have longer smoke breaks between clients. The clubs are full of creepy, stalkerish, annoying, emotionally needy clients. Or bitter, lonely, angry types. Or drunks. So I would argue that longer mental breaks between clients would be beneficial.
For younger people, it is little bit harder to bite your tongue. Most people do not develop patience until after they becomes parents. A few months ago, I overheard a WG yelling at her client over the phone, telling him to stop calling her: "What did I tell you? Do not call me again!! Let me!! Go back to your wife!! I am a beatch". I suppose at a certain point, if one has to repeat themselves over and over again, anybody would snap. But I just think that boiling point is much lower for the younger WGs: [URL]https://youtu.be/hTOKJTRHMdw[/URL].
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2663673]Spermbird's recent review is a little encouraging if his experience can be replicated in other review posts.[/QUOTE]I believe Spermbirds took four sessions, but only paid one WG took 100/60. Karolina is the Romanian raised in Bavaria. She is known to ask for the higher rate, so it seems Spermbirds just cut the room short as a compromise to avoid paying her 150/60 rate for service below his standards.
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How do these clubs compare to the Amsterdam RLD? It seems to me people are being way too picky
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2663768]How do these clubs compare to the Amsterdam RLD? It seems to me people are being way too picky[/QUOTE]Amsterdam RLD: McDonalds = FKK Sharks: Fancy Restaurant.
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Not going to state my sources, but little birds are whispering of FKK managers scouring the continent search for potential new talent. I wonder if Romanias glory days in FKKs are about to pass, and that perhaps a stream of new Ukrainians will start arriving in a couple of months. Alternatively south America and Colombia sounds to be booming lately also. Not sure how easy it is for them to get jobs at Europeans FKKs.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2663768]How do these clubs compare to the Amsterdam RLD? It seems to me people are being way too picky[/QUOTE]RLD is much more transactional. The essence of FKKs is that it is more natural in the dance. Not important for optic fucks as I think the average Amsterdam window girl is better looking than the average FKK girl. But for overall session quality, it is harder to find good service at a Dutch window than at an FKK.
Let's say this, having been in Amsterdam for nearly as many occurrences as Germany, I willingly choose to do about 1 window girl per year as opposed to 50-100 FKK rooms. Those Dutch window sessions usually occurred in the setting of popping into one for a quick pop after an evening out with local friends. For FKKs, I deliberately make trips to visit them, often spending two thirds of my trip alone while I would never fly into Amsterdam for a solo mongering holiday.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2663942]Not going to state my sources, but little birds are whispering of FKK managers scouring the continent search for potential new talent. I wonder if Romanias glory days in FKKs are about to pass, and that perhaps a stream of new Ukrainians will start arriving in a couple of months. Alternatively south America and Colombia sounds to be booming lately also. Not sure how easy it is for them to get jobs at Europeans FKKs.[/QUOTE]Just finished watching Winter on Fire on Netflix. Ukrainian students def willkommen in FKK. Let's hope.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2663742]For younger people, it is little bit harder to bite your tongue. Most people do not develop patience until after they becomes parents. A few months ago, I overheard a WG yelling at her client over the phone, telling him to stop calling her: "What did I tell you? Do not call me again!! Let me!! Go back to your wife!! I am a beatch". I suppose at a certain point, if one has to repeat themselves over and over again, anybody would snap. But I just think that boiling point is much lower for the younger WGs: [URL]https://youtu.be/hTOKJTRHMdw[/URL].[/QUOTE]Truth.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2663742]I believe Spermbirds took four sessions, but only paid one WG took 100/60. Karolina is the Romanian raised in Bavaria. She is known to ask for the higher rate, so it seems Spermbirds just cut the room short as a compromise to avoid paying her 150/60 rate for service below his standards.[/QUOTE]I see the 50 e room cut short for bad service. I've mentioned before that I won't blame a girl for only offering basic fuck-hole service for the 50 e price point. Honestly that is probably what many guys just want and if that is what's offered, I can turn on optic fuck mode. I have learned that to get your money's worth, I'm perfectly happy playing with titties and buttcheeks for 15 minutes prior to a 10 minute basic optic fuck, I'd even forgo the CBJ and be quote happy with this 30 minutes of fun for 50 e.
A second room that was 100 for 60 was an encouraging report.
There was a 4th that he stated was 150 e but alluded to the equivalent of 420 CHF which would be 1.5 hours in Globe prices. Assuming that was a 90 m room, this room seems to be at club rate at 50 e per 30 m for 90 m.
Then there was the third room that was 150 e for 60.
2 for legacy club rate, 1 legacy rate with poor service, and one price gouge room (assuming no extras). That's not bad at all. And after reading his writings about optic standards, it seems that he has reliable thresholds for acceptable quality.
But one good report needs more replication from other reliable sources. Still waiting.
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Are typical prices now €100/30 minutes, or are they still €50 for normal service?
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[QUOTE=Hktj26;2664104]Are typical prices now 100/30 minutes, or are they still 50 for normal service?[/QUOTE]€, not pound nor USD. Not sure for much for 50/30, but 100/60 worked quite well on my many visits.
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[QUOTE=Hktj26;2664104]Are typical prices now 100/30 minutes, or are they still 50 for normal service?[/QUOTE]Frequent flyers can still get legacy pricing.
Otherwise, 50 e rooms still available for basic services with covered BJ and no enthusiasm. High quality 50 e rooms with a girl who doesn't know you may be next to impossible. 100 for 30 may only guarantee you a BBBJ and some junior high kisses, no definite guarantee for high quality service.
My position is that I would rather switch from being a 100 e-1 hour good service kind of guy to a 50 e optic fuck sessioner than be priced cuckheld by a bunch of 22 year old little girls. For now, there are so many other options in the FKK world than to resign to let yourself get worked by the Romanian teenie bopper hooker mafia at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2663942]Alternatively south America and Colombia sounds to be booming lately also. Not sure how easy it is for them to get jobs at Europeans FKKs.[/QUOTE]Well in Spain (Malaga) one of the main clubs, Scandalos, is almost exclusively girls from South America / Columbia / Dom Republic. And none of them have any problem getting entry / jobs so cannot see why Germany would be any different. Save that the girls go to Spain because the weather is better!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2664194]Well in Spain (Malaga) one of the main clubs, Scandalos, is almost exclusively girls from South America / Columbia / Dom Republic. And none of them have any problem getting entry / jobs so cannot see why Germany would be any different. Save that the girls go to Spain because the weather is better![/QUOTE]And of course, there's the language issue too. Girls from the Spanish-speaking Americas will flock to Spain for that reason alone. To be able to communicate and lead an easier life. I have told of how one of my favorite Brasilieras spent time working in Dubai, but she ultimately decided to come home because she felt isolated and alone, unable to communicate with anybody in her native Portuguese. The ability to speak the local language makes a big difference for a girl living thousands of miles away from home.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2664194]Well in Spain (Malaga) one of the main clubs, Scandalos, is almost exclusively girls from South America / Columbia / Dom Republic. And none of them have any problem getting entry / jobs so cannot see why Germany would be any different. Save that the girls go to Spain because the weather is better![/QUOTE]When 2017 new German law is a joke for AO and BBBJ, but Germany chose registration for only EU, so no Ukrainians, Russians, nor South Americans just fallen from plane. Yes for South Americans, Spain is much better, but I much prefer Romanians.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2664194]Well in Spain (Malaga) one of the main clubs, Scandalos, is almost exclusively girls from South America / Columbia / Dom Republic. And none of them have any problem getting entry / jobs so cannot see why Germany would be any different. Save that the girls go to Spain because the weather is better![/QUOTE]Dunno. It could be a sub-agreement Spanish speaking American countries have with Spain alone. Something akin to what Ukrain has with Poland / Czech Republic. Where they are already allowed to go and work. And where you at some places already can find lots of ukrainian girls. Too bad the setups aren't as good as in Germany or Austria. Though I'm not sure how that FKK in Prague is doing these days after that agreement was set in 2017.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2664486]Dunno. It could be a sub-agreement Spanish speaking American countries have with Spain alone. Something akin to what Ukrain has with Poland / Czech Republic. Where they are already allowed to go and work. And where you at some places already can find lots of ukrainian girls. Too bad the setups aren't as good as in Germany or Austria. Though I'm not sure how that FKK in Prague is doing these days after that agreement was set in 2017.[/QUOTE]No registration in Spain, not only South Americans or Africans, but Ukrainians, before covid Russians, Belarus.
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I will be returning to Sharks after lockdown 2 next week.
Is it correct that even if you're fully vaccinated (3 jabs) you still need to do a test at the entrance?
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[QUOTE=Canary;2664863]I will be returning to Sharks after lockdown 2 next week.
Is it correct that even if you're fully vaccinated (3 jabs) you still need to do a test at the entrance?[/QUOTE]According to current regulations that should not be necessary.
As you can see here the 2 G plus rule is in effect for brothels: [URL]https://www.hessen.de/sites/hessen.hessen.de/files/2022-02/Coronaregeln%20Land%20Hessen_kurz%20und%20kompakt_barrierefrei.pdf[/URL].
Here you can see when 2 G plus requirement is fulfilled: [URL]https://www.hessen.de/sites/hessen.hessen.de/files/2022-02/2G-plus_barrierearm.pdf[/URL].
As you can see, three doses and you're good to go.
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[QUOTE=KelVarnsen;2664945]According to current regulations that should not be necessary.
As you can see here the 2 G plus rule is in effect for brothels: [URL]https://www.hessen.de/sites/hessen.hessen.de/files/2022-02/Coronaregeln%20Land%20Hessen_kurz%20und%20kompakt_barrierefrei.pdf[/URL].
Here you can see when 2 G plus requirement is fulfilled: [URL]https://www.hessen.de/sites/hessen.hessen.de/files/2022-02/2G-plus_barrierearm.pdf[/URL].
As you can see, three doses and you're good to go.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, on my last visit before lockdown two I had to do a test albeit I was fully vaccinated so that's good news.
Does anyone have knowledge regarding the current weekend line up at Sharks?
I'm returning next weekend since my last visit in November and it seems from the few reports that Sharks currently has the biggest selection of girls compared to other clubs in Frankfurt. Nothing new in that I suppose but I'm just hoping the L / you has recovered?
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[QUOTE=KelVarnsen;2664945]According to current regulations that should not be necessary.
As you can see here the 2 G plus rule is in effect for brothels: [URL]https://www.hessen.de/sites/hessen.hessen.de/files/2022-02/Coronaregeln%20Land%20Hessen_kurz%20und%20kompakt_barrierefrei.pdf[/URL].
Here you can see when 2 G plus requirement is fulfilled: [URL]https://www.hessen.de/sites/hessen.hessen.de/files/2022-02/2G-plus_barrierearm.pdf[/URL].
As you can see, three doses and you're good to go.[/QUOTE]From what I've read, those with Johnson and Johnson vax with a booster (2 jabs total) still have to take a covid test. Is Sharks still offering testing on site? (I didn't see any mention of it on their website).
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Not A team yet on this week end, casting not at best, better elsewhere, but A team should return, when unfortunately granny returned. Finca was on her level but not same business.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2665581]Does anyone have knowledge regarding the current weekend line up at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Here is a subset of the Sat lineup as reported by others: Emmy, Azaria, Anastasia, Ronya, Kelly the, Lara the, Nico, Kati, Lis, Moria Tanzania, Nura, Lily, Mediya, Candy, Madelina, Chanel HU, Malika, Sascha, Lexi, Silvia, Roxana, Bettina, Melissa, Tamara, Serena, Karolina the, Mary, Amira, Bella, Isabel, Theodora, Miriam, Karissa, Samera, Dea.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2665666]Not A team yet on this week end, casting not at best, better elsewhere, but A team should return, when unfortunately granny returned. Finca was on her level but not same business.[/QUOTE]Not A team. Girls price gouging at Sharks. Seems like a perfect time to explore other FKK options since there's not much of an opportunity cost.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2665666]Not A team yet on this week end, casting not at best, better elsewhere, but A team should return, when unfortunately granny returned. Finca was on her level but not same business.[/QUOTE]When do you think A team return? I'm planing to visit next Sunday.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2666031]When do you think A team return? I'm planing to visit next Sunday.[/QUOTE]2023, hah!
I'm betting line ups will steadily improve over the next several months, perhaps even returning to the previous annual occurrence of a handful of new talent appearing in mid autumn. For whatever reason, new girls used to always show up around September to November.
But chasing an elusive "A Team" to show up might be a fool's errand. I think old talent trickling in is more likely. Even at it's best times during the 2021 reopening, with Sharks having the best looking talent, the line up was still a shell of previous years' line ups.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2666031]When do you think A team return? I'm planing to visit next Sunday.[/QUOTE]If you can't find an "A team" with 50+ different women, then that's on you.
I've been there several times and there is always enough women to make me happy. Also, when some of the "A team" return, don't expect them to not be picky on accepting your offer or to be inexpensive with the time they charge. They're charging top dollar and you could even be rejected.
At the end of the day, everyone has to make their own decision because everyone's definition of "A team" is different and everyone has their own budget.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2666031]When do you think A team return? I'm planing to visit next Sunday.[/QUOTE]I don't know, I just know A team will return one day. I can only advice you to arrive before 2 pm for entry only 50, even should be quite slow at this time. At the moment, I think 6 and Gold are better casting. I will return to Sharks, but only for A team, when I remember on 2017 when I couldn't find any attractive among 200 girls. Quantity was never quality for me. But I enjoyed Sharks on 2021.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2665913]Not A team. Girls price gouging at Sharks. Seems like a perfect time to explore other FKK options since there's not much of an opportunity cost.[/QUOTE]Agree and what I do at the moment when I'm not stuck to any club. 6 and Gold are more interesting for me at the moment, better casting at 6 and a wow woman for 80/60 at Gold. Had to work hard for second time, same than on first time, after about 20 mn, she told me she couldn't cum, she never, so I asked her: you can't or you don't want? As told hardcore German Pia at Bruggen: you never give up, I kept on and found her P point and then after only few minutes, impressive convulsions shaking all her body, and then no more snake French kiss but welcoming inside her mouth and not same eyes, rare experience to enjoy.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666033]2023, hah!
I'm betting line ups will steadily improve over the next several months, perhaps even returning to the previous annual occurrence of a handful of new talent appearing in mid autumn. For whatever reason, new girls used to always show up around September to November.
But chasing an elusive "A Team" to show up might be a fool's errand. I think old talent trickling in is more likely. Even at it's best times during the 2021 reopening, with Sharks having the best looking talent, the line up was still a shell of previous years' line ups.[/QUOTE]No, for Summer, after stopping studies. I was a bit sad when 178 bare feet, turning passionate Mira. Ro told me on Saturday she stopped medical after first year, to go to brothel. Reminded me Rachel. De at Bruggen who worked 1 week on 2 when she started, to study medical, but she specialized in cocaine at Bruggen.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2666052]If you can't find an "A team" with 50+ different women, then that's on you.
I've been there several times and there is always enough women to make me happy. Also, when some of the "A team" return, don't expect them to not be picky on accepting your offer or to be inexpensive with the time they charge. They're charging top dollar and you could even be rejected.
At the end of the day, everyone has to make their own decision because everyone's definition of "A team" is different and everyone has their own budget.[/QUOTE]Well, there is the numbers aspect. Yes I can find a set of 3 girls to fill my dance card. But it's better when there are 10+ top girls so the 100 guys aren't going after the same ones causing wait time stress and giving top girls more power to upsell. And you can go multiple days without having to repeat the same girls.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2665789]Here is a subset of the Sat lineup as reported by others: Emmy, Azaria, Anastasia, Ronya, Kelly the, Lara the, Nico, Kati, Lis, Moria Tanzania, Nura, Lily, Mediya, Candy, Madelina, Chanel HU, Malika, Sascha, Lexi, Silvia, Roxana, Bettina, Melissa, Tamara, Serena, Karolina the, Mary, Amira, Bella, Isabel, Theodora, Miriam, Karissa, Samera, Dea.[/QUOTE]Everybody know Carolina is not German. Yes, list of be team except Melissa who was already for 100/30 and 150/60 before covid. Better to really visit to know, when Bella Globe is brunette for me, so should not be on party photo.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2666052] Also, when some of the "A team" return, don't expect them to not be picky on accepting your offer or to be inexpensive with the time they charge. They're charging top dollar and you could even be rejected. .[/QUOTE]If the market is not regulated (IE WGs allowed to set prices), in the long term supply and demand will determine the price. It's as simple as that. If the "A" team doesn't ask for more money then they are stupid.
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The OP wanted to know which WGs are around, I tried to send him directly to the source but that post didn't make it. I think a list of names says more than generic terms like "A" team or "b" team. The OP can decide for himself if these girls are interesting enough for him or not. Bella Globe dyed her hair a long time ago, 100% it's her on the party photo.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2666250]The OP wanted to know which WGs are around, I tried to send him directly to the source but that post didn't make it. I think a list of names says more than generic terms like "A" team or "b" team. The OP can decide for himself if these girls are interesting enough for him or not. Bella Globe dyed her hair a long time ago, 100% it's her on the party photo.[/QUOTE]If you knew Sharks, you would know what mean A team and others. On Friday and Saturday, when girls will return, then around 80/100 girls and A team is around 15 girls: Miss Sharks, Daisi. De even was not wow for me and average face, sexy Melissa. Ro, let s say Cosmina who still has success after nearly 10 years, wow GFE Cena, Sabrina, Alina, Corali if returning from Samya, I think Amalia, amazing naturals Brenda, maybe Viorica, Roxy, Nadine if returning from Saarland, and my A+ for me. Easy to know when you really visit. Some A team are for 100/60.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2666244]If the market is not regulated (IE WGs allowed to set prices), in the long term supply and demand will determine the price. It's as simple as that. If the "A" team doesn't ask for more money then they are stupid.[/QUOTE]Germans, not me, made new rates when they went to Sharks girls working in apartments under lockdown. New fresh prettier girls don't want to work for less expensive than long time girls, but even I prefer to pay 100/60 for my A+ elegant and will never pay 100/30 or 150/60 or even 200/60 for little Romanians asking when I would not even pay 50, but when I see a real bare feet supermodel, not fake height on Globe profile, with full fresh natural body, perfect firm naturals with nipples hardening under her pleasure, as I told her: You can t lie, your nipples tell truth, funny even less impressive than my 40 yo woman who had so strong impressive convulsions for about 1 minute, make me laugh when some who are not able to experience think girls fake. Also only very small tattoos and so fresh GFE on her arrival for Miss Sharks, when I learned arithmetic's, not grocery, in my highest level in France school, reason why median Zurich salary don t impress me much when I know if I ran only for money, when I prefer my dreams since more than 11 years and despite new organization for job but I want my 2 doors S5 2008 prepared powered bioethanol for about 450 power to reach 300 in Germany when will switch off speed limit electronics, good point being quattro always working, less electronics, I could make easily much more from my skill at job, so I learned 150/60 is less expensive than 100/30 when finding a real GFE rare fresh beauty and what is best deal? A fresh natural full GFE beauty for 150/60 or a silicon tattooed long time girl who is less fresh in bed for 260/60. Just arithmetic. Of course I m very happy to pay only 80/60 for my wow GFE 40 yo woman. She really impressed me on Sunday from how she turned after her convulsions. I drive and pay for this magic, not just for hygienic sex. I try to adapt among different rates in Germany / NL, Switzerland and Austria, looking only for quality.
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Quite bizarre: (at least) half of the listed "so called" A-team was / is already back or has been from day1 since re-opening. MissSharks, Daisy, Roxy, Alina, Melissa for instance for sure. Some others don't know / care.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666477]If you knew Sharks, you would know what mean A team and others. On Friday and Saturday, when girls will return, then around 80/100 girls and A team is around 15 girls: Miss Sharks, Daisi. De even was not wow for me and average face, sexy Melissa. Ro, let s say Cosmina who still has success after nearly 10 years, wow GFE Cena, Sabrina, Alina, Corali if returning from Samya, I think Amalia, amazing naturals Brenda, maybe Viorica, Roxy, Nadine if returning from Saarland, and my A+ for me. Easy to know when you really visit. Some A team are for 100/60.[/QUOTE]You should add Mara to this list -my favourite in my last 2 trips-.
Also Betty should be in A team.
Melanie should also qualify.
Each one has his own taste, but I think we will agree on 80% of A team girls.
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[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2666792]Quite bizarre: (at least) half of the listed "so called" A-team was / is already back or has been from day1 since re-opening. MissSharks, Daisy, Roxy, Alina, Melissa for instance for sure. Some others don't know / care.[/QUOTE]Quite sure, Miss Sharks didn't return. But, you know we have different tastes, as you say: only beauty for me, when I won't pay for Catalea at 6.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2666859]You should add Mara to this list -my favourite in my last 2 trips-.
Also Betty should be in A team.
Melanie should also qualify.
Each one has his own taste, but I think we will agree on 80% of A team girls.[/QUOTE]Yes of course, subjective, but you mean Melani now with glasses who really gained on ass? Usually with black stockings and towel around ass.
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Pff, miss Sharks as Sirioja calls her is definitely back regardless what he claims: Cataleya for those which don't know. Sabrina is also back as well.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2666902]Yes of course, subjective, but you mean Melani now with glasses who really gained on ass? Usually with black stockings and towel around ass.[/QUOTE]Yes, I didn't go with her to the room long time ago, maybe she is not A team.
Sirioja, do you think FKK Sixsens or Acagold worth a visit? Or stay 4 days in Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2667153]Yes, I didn't go with her to the room long time ago, maybe she is not A team.
Sirioja, do you think FKK Sixsens or Acagold worth a visit? Or stay 4 days in Sharks?[/QUOTE]I didn't return yet to Sharks on this year because I know my few A team are at home and was told about quite average looks since 19 December, which would make me cry. But I think girls should return for February salary. My advice: start with Sharks you travel for and if not good, move to 6, Gold or Samya. I'm not stuck to any club, only to girls on my standard who are much more attractive for me than brothels. I didn't often enjoy Sharks from 2017 to 2019, I enjoyed on 2021 except on my last visit on beginning of December, I will judge on 2022, but I don't worry much, just matter of patience controlling balls. When she just arrived from Finca on end of 2015, when Finca was where some pretty girls started in business, Melani was real white snow look and real GFE on our discovery, but not same freshness on next week, and I preferred Megan beauty. I never claimed to be expert, but I'm a beauty specialist, why I want 2 doors S5, because beautiful line for 2008 model, and of course will improve as usual like for all cars, aim being to reach 300.
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I think I must be a strange customer as I don't have "A" lists or "b" lists, I just like to relax, use the wellness facilities and fuck as much as I can / want.
The so called "optics" term is so vague it means different things to different people.
My main aim is firstly to have a chat (if they can't be bothered it's a cross for me) and then see how we mix. If the vibe is good I then decide based on her conversation & looks whether to proceed.
I have been with what some would call a "few plain girls" and not always but generally they give a good service & try to alleviate their so called ordinary looks. I've also been with what some may describe as stunners however these girls take longer to "work out" as to there ability, willingness & desire to provide a good room.
Without being too big headed although I've made a few errors mostly I've had a excellent success rate. For me this is a game and it's all part of the fun especially as when I visit I usually spend the best part of a day at the club. A few years ago I worked as an negotiator so Carefully observing & listening are skills I've developed over the years and bizarrely this has been useful in clubs.
I will be having fun this weekend but one things for sure I won't be worrying about "A" lists & who is not there, I will be hunting in my own way.
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[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2667144]Pff, miss Sharks as Sirioja calls her is definitely back regardless what he claims: Cataleya for those which don't know. Sabrina is also back as well.[/QUOTE]So she returned really not long ago when she didn't until 13 February. Sabrina also just returned. I call her because she was elected and not by me. One voted for her, saying for me, we will have to talk when I would not have voted for her, nothing against her, but another deserved more my vote if I had voted, when she didn't get any vote. On 2020 for Globe election, funny Sofia. De also didn't get any vote when she was Globe superstar.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2667259]I think I must be a strange customer as I don't have "A" lists or "b" lists, I just like to relax, use the wellness facilities and fuck as much as I can / want.
The so called "optics" term is so vague it means different things to different people.
My main aim is firstly to have a chat (if they can't be bothered it's a cross for me) and then see how we mix. If the vibe is good I then decide based on her conversation & looks whether to proceed.
I have been with what some would call a "few plain girls" and not always but generally they give a good service & try to alleviate their so called ordinary looks. I've also been with what some may describe as stunners however these girls take longer to "work out" as to there ability, willingness & desire to provide a good room.
Without being too big headed although I've made a few errors mostly I've had a excellent success rate. For me this is a game and it's all part of the fun especially as when I visit I usually spend the best part of a day at the club. A few years ago I worked as an negotiator so Carefully observing & listening are skills I've developed over the years and bizarrely this has been useful in clubs.
I will be having fun this weekend but one things for sure I won't be worrying about "A" lists & who is not there, I will be hunting in my own way.[/QUOTE]Of course for relaxing, but don't you need attraction to feel desire and enjoy sex? I can't enjoy if I don t find her pretty and I enjoy more if her look or elegance make me dream. I don't care about top hardcore or even GFE who are not pretty enough for me. But each one own subjective taste for looks. I like girls who look like woman, not porn dolls.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2667259]I think I must be a strange customer as I don't have "A" lists or "b" lists, I just like to relax, use the wellness facilities and fuck as much as I can / want.
The so called "optics" term is so vague it means different things to different people.
My main aim is firstly to have a chat (if they can't be bothered it's a cross for me) and then see how we mix. If the vibe is good I then decide based on her conversation & looks whether to proceed.
I have been with what some would call a "few plain girls" and not always but generally they give a good service & try to alleviate their so called ordinary looks. I've also been with what some may describe as stunners however these girls take longer to "work out" as to there ability, willingness & desire to provide a good room.
Without being too big headed although I've made a few errors mostly I've had a excellent success rate. For me this is a game and it's all part of the fun especially as when I visit I usually spend the best part of a day at the club. A few years ago I worked as an negotiator so Carefully observing & listening are skills I've developed over the years and bizarrely this has been useful in clubs.
I will be having fun this weekend but one things for sure I won't be worrying about "A" lists & who is not there, I will be hunting in my own way.[/QUOTE]Well if you are a strange customer so am I because your post was 100% in line with how I enjoy these clubs. I have favourites but not a or be lists. I wouldn't go with anyone on a be list. I look forward to your report as I will be there the following weekend. Have a great time.
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Lesbians. Have you seen then lately
Hi all,
Can someone inform if maybe he seen the Romanian lesbian couple in the club. I forgot the names but one of them is skinny with short hair and her friend looks like a doll.
Thank you all in advance. Really hope to catch them again.
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Flying from Turkey to USA with stop in Europe
Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.
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First visit to Sharks yesterday since Lockdown two & although there were many ladies present, regarding customers it was relatively quite early on until around early evening.
Contrary to some reports the old club pricing of 100€ for an hour is still present if you look hard enough and you're persistent albeit most use the new pay structure. I did a few rooms involving both structures.
The only negative other than the usual poor hot food IMO (yes I know we don't go clubbing for food!) was that the club vibe wasn't improved late on in the evening with the influx of large groups with their boisterous antics.
A number of girls late in the evening were making the effort to consistently obtain customers but it was noticeable the lazy ones were losing out. Although I will return before I can't wait for the summer to use the garden facilities which for me really adds to the experience.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2666081]Well, there is the numbers aspect. Yes I can find a set of 3 girls to fill my dance card. But it's better when there are 10+ top girls so the 100 guys aren't going after the same ones causing wait time stress and giving top girls more power to upsell. And you can go multiple days without having to repeat the same girls.[/QUOTE]1. I've never seen 100 guys going after the same girls to the extent that you can't find what you want. What you want, is not the same that someone else wants.
2. Not every guy in an FKK is there for women. The "old guys on the front couches" are there generally everyday for the eye candy and atmosphere.
3. Unless some guy is filthy rich with an endless sex drive and a passion for only one 1 girl, the longest you'll wait for a high demand female that you want is probably an hour.
So again, I don't care about any "A team" or "best time to go. " There's 50+ women in Sharks, I have no problem sitting at the bar taking my time to find my own A team.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2666244]If the market is not regulated (IE WGs allowed to set prices), in the long term supply and demand will determine the price. It's as simple as that. If the "A" team doesn't ask for more money then they are stupid.[/QUOTE]
Im pointing out the irony of people complaining about high prices, then debating on when the A team is supposed to arrive. As if women who consider themselves A team are somehow magically going to be cheap or guarantee to give you good service. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes.
[QUOTE=Canary;2667259]I think I must be a strange customer as I don't have "A" lists or "b" lists, I just like to relax, use the wellness facilities and fuck as much as I can / want.
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Agreed, same here. If you can’t have fun with a lineup of 50+ women, then it’s time to stay home. A team, B team, low season, high season, etc. I don’t care. If I need to bust a nut, I’m going. Mongering isn’t some science formula.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2668631]1. I've never seen 100 guys going after the same girls to the extent that you can't find what you want. What you want, is not the same that someone else wants.[/QUOTE]Yes this obvious but given 100 girls, there will always be a top handful of the most desirable. Tastes may be a bit different but there is always a lot of crossover to make elite girls, that's the A team, elite girls that have the most cross appeal to many men. If someone is into some smaller subset that is not universally appealing, all the better for that individual.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2668631]3. Unless some guy is filthy rich with an endless sex drive and a passion for only one 1 girl, the longest you'll wait for a high demand female that you want is probably an hour.[/QUOTE]LOL, you haven't been doing this long enough to see a line of 5 guys waiting for a girl trying to get next every time she gets paid by the previous guy?
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2668631]Im pointing out the irony of people complaining about high prices, then debating on when the A team is supposed to arrive. As if women who consider themselves A team are somehow magically going to be cheap or guarantee to give you good service. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes.
[/QUOTE]Well that's kinda been the realities of FKKs for past 2 decades. All girls, same prices. Clubs where girls charged more were always the minority until recently when guys have allowed the upsell to spill over to multiple clubs. Only in the past few years have the prices been allowed to ramp up. Your line of thinking is probably a big part of the reason. Was good while it lasted. When word gets out, the masses often ruin a good thing.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2668493]Hi all,
Can someone inform if maybe he seen the Romanian lesbian couple in the club. I forgot the names but one of them is skinny with short hair and her friend looks like a doll.
Thank you all in advance. Really hope to catch them again.[/QUOTE]Not seen on this Saturday. Very average casting for me despite pretty, Caucasian type, Colombian Marta for my only room. As she is very fast reactive with very wet honey then no gel, 100 was enough with her, when I didn't see any girl worthing 150/60 I agree to pay but only for fresh rare beauty and real GFE, not for gothic Morticia who lost freshness for really GFE sex. Very bad news if Tara really moved elsewhere, when she told me she didn't get good business, or maybe because guy was badly surprised about my rate with 2 Moldavians when I was also surprised to read on German forum they pay more expensive than me. Sharks was only my second choice for this Saturday after Dusseldorf and I didn't find any girl to rush to return even new Germans and Amelia ex Bruggen. Wish for prettier girls to arrive. Good point was no Sylvana. Pleasure was lovely Roxana even I prefer cat eyes than heavy make up. No supermodel Kelli. Ro for my eyes. Even few were busy, but quite slow business in afternoon and not very crowded at night, quite normal, most of girls asking for too expensive according to their look, when Palace and Oase are already no business as say girls. But not full crowded at Sharks, even works blocking part of parking, but no problem to park at 3.30 pm. Need duck FFP2 mask, but not asked to put inside, when many girls already have lips.
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It is said on the internet that the club was in a very bad situation after the reopening, but I felt the same. Not worth the cost.
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Follow up
[QUOTE=AMonger123;2668528]Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Would anyone here be able to answer this question? Thanks.
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Depends
It really depends on individual taste. I have had good experience at Sharks as well as Oase. There are few other clubs thati have liked.
This might help. There are also tons of reviews on each forum.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=2651654[/URL]#post2651654.
[QUOTE=AMonger123;2668817]Hi,
Would anyone here be able to answer this question? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Stopover
You really can't lose by stopping over in Frankfurt and going to Sharks. There's so much choice, you will find a few to your liking. And for me, having so many nude women around is a great experience. Some of my best visual memories are of standing and chatting with beautiful naked stunners.
[QUOTE=AMonger123;2668528]Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2668631]1. I've never seen 100 guys going after the same girls to the extent that you can't find what you want. What you want, is not the same that someone else wants.
2. Not every guy in an FKK is there for women. The "old guys on the front couches" are there generally everyday for the eye candy and atmosphere.
3. Unless some guy is filthy rich with an endless sex drive and a passion for only one 1 girl, the longest you'll wait for a high demand female that you want is probably an hour.
So again, I don't care about any "A team" or "best time to go. " There's 50+ women in Sharks, I have no problem sitting at the bar taking my time to find my own A team.
Im pointing out the irony of people complaining about high prices, then debating on when the A team is supposed to arrive. As if women who consider themselves A team are somehow magically going to be cheap or guarantee to give you good service. The only guarantees in life are death and taxes..[/QUOTE]Didn't you know some girls who were booked for whole day? I remember Florentina who was booked from 2 pm to midnight every Friday on 2017, so even I really liked her elegance and GFE, playing in elephant room like with Marta. Col, but I preferred to stop, because I wasted my time with her and couldn't find any other attractive at Sharks, leaving full balls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2668727]Not seen on this Saturday. Very average casting for me despite pretty, Caucasian type, Colombian Marta for my only room. As she is very fast reactive with very wet honey then no gel, 100 was enough with her, when I didn't see any girl worthing 150/60 I agree to pay but only for fresh rare beauty and real GFE, not for gothic Morticia who lost freshness for really GFE sex. Very bad news if Tara really moved elsewhere, when she told me she didn't get good business, or maybe because guy was badly surprised about my rate with 2 Moldavians when I was also surprised to read on German forum they pay more expensive than me. Sharks was only my second choice for this Saturday after Dusseldorf and I didn't find any girl to rush to return even new Germans and Amelia ex Bruggen. Wish for prettier girls to arrive. Good point was no Sylvana. Pleasure was lovely Roxana even I prefer cat eyes than heavy make up. No supermodel Kelli. Ro for my eyes. Even few were busy, but quite slow business in afternoon and not very crowded at night, quite normal, most of girls asking for too expensive according to their look, when Palace and Oase are already no business as say girls. But not full crowded at Sharks, even works blocking part of parking, but no problem to park at 3.30 pm. Need duck FFP2 mask, but not asked to put inside, when many girls already have lips.[/QUOTE]As ever thanks for your information. I will be in Sharks this Friday night. Can you let me know if little Vanilla has returned to the club? Short mouse brown hair fantastic gym body with natural bee cups? I am planning a three day trip only, will do Sharks Friday, Oase Saturday, and likely Palace / Mainhattan Sunday. I've read the reports that Oase and Palace have few girls. But don't want to do 3 nights in Sharks so must try out the other clubs. As ever I will report but I would be interested in views from you and all other regulars at the Hessen clubs to get the best out of this short trip.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2668966]As ever thanks for your information. I will be in Sharks this Friday night. Can you let me know if little Vanilla has returned to the club? Short mouse brown hair fantastic gym body with natural bee cups? I am planning a three day trip only, will do Sharks Friday, Oase Saturday, and likely Palace / Mainhattan Sunday. I've read the reports that Oase and Palace have few girls. But don't want to do 3 nights in Sharks so must try out the other clubs. As ever I will report but I would be interested in views from you and all other regulars at the Hessen clubs to get the best out of this short trip.[/QUOTE]Vanila? Her name? When some Black girls. Colombian Marta may remind you Costa del Sol. Quite small pussy but pretty and natural.
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Cosmina, Melissa, Teodora, Alina, Sabrina, Melani, new Roxana, not the 2014 one who got silicon, elected Miss Sharks 2021 with too heavy gothic make up when I like only Smashing pumpkins led by Billy Corgan and even prefer Melissa Auf der Maur singing I will taste you, but only Marta. Col inspired my desire with her pretty face, full natural, no tattoo and elegant sophisticated look, she was the good one for my first Colombian. No fake moanings, GFE kissing and even coming to kiss while sex, unfortunately limited for vagina and DT. At least with my 40 woman, no too big, too hard, same like was in real life, when mostly small pussies in FKK.
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I was in Sharks yesterday, the club is great although prices are 100/30 - 150/60 (90% of the girls).
They check your vaccination, the rule is 2 G+ , so if have have a booster then no test, very good for travelers as there will be no risk.
No masks inside.
The girls are the same as 3 months ago (my last visit) with few changes.
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I will be in Sharks today, if you tell me where she sits I might look for her and see if there is a (Vanilla) in the club.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669152]I will be in Sharks today, if you tell me where she sits I might look for her and see if there is a (Vanilla) in the club.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. She doesn't really have a set place but do please ask on reception is she is still working at the club. In honesty it won't change my plans even if she isn't, but it will put a smile on my face to know she is! Many thanks. Much appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2668727]Not seen on this Saturday. Very average casting for me despite pretty, Caucasian type, Colombian Marta for my only room. As she is very fast reactive with very wet honey then no gel, 100 was enough with her, when I didn't see any girl worthing 150/60 I agree to pay but only for fresh rare beauty and real GFE, not for gothic Morticia who lost freshness for really GFE sex. Very bad news if Tara really moved elsewhere, when she told me she didn't get good business, or maybe because guy was badly surprised about my rate with 2 Moldavians when I was also surprised to read on German forum they pay more expensive than me. Sharks was only my second choice for this Saturday after Dusseldorf and I didn't find any girl to rush to return even new Germans and Amelia ex Bruggen. Wish for prettier girls to arrive. Good point was no Sylvana. Pleasure was lovely Roxana even I prefer cat eyes than heavy make up. No supermodel Kelli. Ro for my eyes. Even few were busy, but quite slow business in afternoon and not very crowded at night, quite normal, most of girls asking for too expensive according to their look, when Palace and Oase are already no business as say girls. But not full crowded at Sharks, even works blocking part of parking, but no problem to park at 3.30 pm. Need duck FFP2 mask, but not asked to put inside, when many girls already have lips.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your replay, I hope they will appear soon otherwise I'll postponed my flight till they are, it was a hell of an hour with them and I would really like to repeat.
Do you remember their name by any chance?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2669156]Many thanks. She doesn't really have a set place but do please ask on reception is she is still working at the club. In honesty it won't change my plans even if she isn't, but it will put a smile on my face to know she is! Many thanks. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Desk won't help, they don't know girls names. I never noticed any Vanila.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669147]I was in Sharks yesterday, the club is great although prices are 100/30 - 150/60 (90% of the girls).
They check your vaccination, the rule is 2 G+ , so if have have a booster then no test, very good for travelers as there will be no risk.
No masks inside.
The girls are the same as 3 months ago (my last visit) with few changes.[/QUOTE]On Saturday which is best casting day with Friday, compare to my wow woman I pay 80/60, I didn't see any look worthing 150/60 and was only attracted by elegant Marta for 100/30 when 30 mn were enough when she is fast reactive. She could compete with German Sofia at Globe, but with smaller pussy. A visit for 165, for a second choice when my wow woman didn't work unfortunately. I visited for my Moldavian with who I had many 100/60, but she was not on Sharks business. Except very few, other looks don t worth 100/30 or 150/60 for me, not even blond Amelia ex Bruggen, not pretty enough for me. Wish for prettier to arrive.
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[QUOTE=AMonger123;2668817]Hi,
Would anyone here be able to answer this question? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think it's also a matter of logistics. Are you planning on spending just a few hours between flights or spending a day or more? Sharks is easily accessible from FRA (train or bus to the Maritim Hotel. You could book your itinerary giving you the maximum layover time. That way, you could check your luggage through to your final destination which would save a lot of "bag drag" hassle. You could also rent a car which would give you more choices around the Frankfurt area. But, this cuts into your overall time at an FKK and adds cost. Actually, anything other than a long layover will add cost. There are lots of stories and suggestions in this forum from guys who have done the Sharks trip between flights. I was last there pre-Covid, so I'm certain timetables have changed. Good luck & hope it works out for you.
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Vaccine Card
Thanks guys for all the replies.
I took the Johnson vaccine like 10 days ago which only needs 1 dose. When I come to club, will I need a PCR test or this will be enough? If I need a PCR will they do it on the spot or I need to come with one? Flying from Turkey to USA via Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669147]I was in Sharks yesterday, the club is great although prices are 100/30 - 150/60 (90% of the girls).
They check your vaccination, the rule is 2 G+ , so if have have a booster then no test, very good for travelers as there will be no risk.
No masks inside.
The girls are the same as 3 months ago (my last visit) with few changes.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tuber. That is info visitors need not stories about conquests from years back.
I am visiting from OZ 1st week in April. Was wondering about Vac status. So double vaxxed with AZ + Moderrna booster will get you into clubs without RAT test? Are all clubs implementing similar policy?
No masks inside for customers and girls?
BBBJ still standard in most clubs or does this vary do you know?
TIA for assistance.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2669177]Thanks for your replay, I hope they will appear soon otherwise I'll postponed my flight till they are, it was a hell of an hour with them and I would really like to repeat.
Do you remember their name by any chance?[/QUOTE]I remember thin, short hair androgyne. I think they arrived at Sharks on October. Maybe they will return when some good girls are now missing.
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[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2669332]Thanks Tuber. That is info visitors need not stories about conquests from years back.
I am visiting from OZ 1st week in April. Was wondering about Vac status. So double vaxxed with AZ + Moderrna booster will get you into clubs without RAT test? Are all clubs implementing similar policy?
No masks inside for customers and girls?
BBBJ still standard in most clubs or does this vary do you know?
TIA for assistance.[/QUOTE]You will need FFP2 to enter Sharks.
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Instead of going to Acapulco Gold, Acapulco in Velbert is a far far better place. With better girls.
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It's changed name to FKK Prime now.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2669334]You will need FFP2 to enter Sharks.[/QUOTE]And once inside what is policy then?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2669334]You will need FFP2 to enter Sharks.[/QUOTE]Sold for 1€ then in robe pocket when nobody except staff put on mask. Also fast test for 5€. No more mask now in other clubs.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2669156]Many thanks. She doesn't really have a set place but do please ask on reception is she is still working at the club. In honesty it won't change my plans even if she isn't, but it will put a smile on my face to know she is! Many thanks. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I asked, and was told by reception that Vanilla is still working in the club but was free today (Tuesday).
I did ask if she will be here is Wednesday, but the reception said she don't know.
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@ Bad Boy Billy:
1- Double vaxxed with AZ + Moderrna booster will get you into clubs without RAT test?
Yes, I'm double vaxxed with AZ + Pfizer booster.
2- Are all clubs implementing similar policy? I don't know, but its the rule for all Hessen FKK's.
3- No masks inside for customers and girls? Yes.
4-BBBJ still standard in most clubs or does this vary do you know? I don't know.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2669372]Instead of going to Acapulco Gold, Acapulco in Velbert is a far far better place. With better girls.[/QUOTE]When did you visit? When Velbert is not anymore what it was, but I prefer Gold for few looks than ex Haus Pantera where girls were not pretty for most. In brothels, when I don t look for a GF for more than in bed and sometimes in club, natural beauty is a quality for WGs for me, elegance also, quite rare, but motivating my desire.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669525]I asked, and was told by reception that Vanilla is still working in the club but was free today (Tuesday).
I did ask if she will be here is Wednesday, but the reception said she don't know.[/QUOTE]If you're in Sharks today could you please give a indication of the line up please?
I was there Saturday but it was fairly quite until later on. I'm suppose to be visiting Sharks again, on the last Tuesday this month.
Even during the busy periods Sharks was always quite on Lingerie Tuesdays but if it's exceptionally quite (under 50 ladies) I might try to switch the day.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2669620]If you're in Sharks today could you please give a indication of the line up please?
I was there Saturday but it was fairly quite until later on. I'm suppose to be visiting Sharks again, on the last Tuesday this month.
Even during the busy periods Sharks was always quite on Lingerie Tuesdays but if it's exceptionally quite (under 50 ladies) I might try to switch the day.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You mean quiet? Yes, I confirm for Saturday afternoon and even on evening / night, quite slow business, but average casting. Nevertheless I improved compare to 2021 when no room on my first Sharks visit, when one to start 2022. But if true, was told a bad news for casting. I will miss her.
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Is there a reasonably priced fav hotel near Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669529]@ Bad Boy Billy:
1- Double vaxxed with AZ + Moderrna booster will get you into clubs without RAT test?
Yes, I'm double vaxxed with AZ + Pfizer booster.
2- Are all clubs implementing similar policy? I don't know, but its the rule for all Hessen FKK's.
3- No masks inside for customers and girls? Yes.
4-BBBJ still standard in most clubs or does this vary do you know? I don't know.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is still quite standard in Germany and 6. Marta was not bad, but not able for DT.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2669553]When did you visit? When Velbert is not anymore what it was, but I prefer Gold for few looks than ex Haus Pantera where girls were not pretty for most. In brothels, when I don t look for a GF for more than in bed and sometimes in club, natural beauty is a quality for WGs for me, elegance also, quite rare, but motivating my desire.[/QUOTE]Is Prime (Acapulco) also closed then? Website says it's open. Or is the lineup just not existential?
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669529]@ Bad Boy Billy:
1- Double vaxxed with AZ + Moderrna booster will get you into clubs without RAT test?
Yes, I'm double vaxxed with AZ + Pfizer booster.
2- Are all clubs implementing similar policy? I don't know, but its the rule for all Hessen FKK's.
3- No masks inside for customers and girls? Yes.
4-BBBJ still standard in most clubs or does this vary do you know? I don't know.[/QUOTE]Again thanks Tuber. Getting up to date accurate info on state of play is like pulling teeth. I would not have thought it difficult for those who do actually visit to post current state of play.
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[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2669713]Again thanks Tuber. Getting up to date accurate info on state of play is like pulling teeth. I would not have thought it difficult for those who do actually visit to post current state of play.[/QUOTE]I arrived relatively early on Saturday and there wasn't even anyone at the entrance checking my vaccination status. The lady at reception had a quick glance and let me in. I'm fully vaccinated so I wasn't bothered.
They still however want your contact details written down.
99.99% of the ladies & Gents inside the club were not wearing any mask.
Plus no restrictions on how many use the jacuzzis / whirlpools.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2669676]Is there a reasonably priced fav hotel near Sharks?[/QUOTE]Yes, Dormero Darmstadt is a new hotel with €50-60 rooms about 15 minutes walk from Sharks. Highly recommended.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2669525]I asked, and was told by reception that Vanilla is still working in the club but was free today (Tuesday).
I did ask if she will be here is Wednesday, but the reception said she don't know.[/QUOTE]That's great. Thanks for going to the trouble of finding out. Much appreciated and makes my trip even more eagerly awaited. If you are in their on Friday PM and I'll buy you a beer!
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[QUOTE=Canary;2669715]I arrived relatively early on Saturday and there wasn't even anyone at the entrance checking my vaccination status. The lady at reception had a quick glance and let me in. I'm fully vaccinated so I wasn't bothered.
They still however want your contact details written down.
99.99% of the ladies & Gents inside the club were not wearing any mask.
Plus no restrictions on how many use the jacuzzis / whirlpools.[/QUOTE]Canary = LEGEND. Thanks mate.
Next question. I have only ever visited Sharks on 3 occasions. Sept 2017, Sept 2018 and Sept 2019 - absolutely 100% DFK, BBBJ, DATY and CFS €100 1 HR with all girls without a problem but they ALL were promised and received a nice little Australian souvenir if performance warranted and word soon got around. How common is pricing now please?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2669709]Is Prime (Acapulco) also closed then? Website says it's open. Or is the lineup just not existential?[/QUOTE]Prime is open but not sure high level casting. Now, Gold and Penelope seem higher ranked. Times changed.
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FFP2 and data to write on desk, to enter.
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[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;2669815]Canary = LEGEND. Thanks mate.
Next question. I have only ever visited Sharks on 3 occasions. Sept 2017, Sept 2018 and Sept 2019 - absolutely 100% DFK, BBBJ, DATY and CFS 100 1 HR with all girls without a problem but they ALL were promised and received a nice little Australian souvenir if performance warranted and word soon got around. How common is pricing now please?[/QUOTE]Since the reopening after the longest & first lockdown many of the girls increased prices from 30/€100 & 60/€150.
There are a few crazy girls who even suggest €200 for an amazing one hour.
What I have found since lockdown is that more girls "try it on" than before, in other words if they can get away with it they will charge as much as they think you will spend. Particularly if they think you're a tourist or newbie.
However there are still ladies who charge the old club standard rate of 30/50€ & 60/100€ and indeed a few who will drop their prices to this payment level after discussions. These girls are not necessarily the prettiest but service level is not reduced, in fact it's often better.
It was apparent to me on Saturday with not as many guys as usual present it was a buyers market if you "played your cards right".
Regarding extras they are all still available for the same prices as before.
Unfortunately the standard of food is still poor, especially the hot food and the Smokey atmosphere the same as before.
I can't wait for the summer when Sharks comes into it's own with the use of the gardens.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2670054]Since the reopening after the longest & first lockdown many of the girls increased prices from 30/100 & 60/150.
There are a few crazy girls who even suggest 200 for an amazing one hour.
What I have found since lockdown is that more girls "try it on" than before, in other words if they can get away with it they will charge as much as they think you will spend. Particularly if they think you're a tourist or newbie.
However there are still ladies who charge the old club standard rate of 30/50 & 60/100 and indeed a few who will drop their prices to this payment level after discussions. These girls are not necessarily the prettiest but service level is not reduced, in fact it's often better.
It was apparent to me on Saturday with not as many guys as usual present it was a buyers market if you "played your cards right".
Regarding extras they are all still available for the same prices as before.
Unfortunately the standard of food is still poor, especially the hot food and the Smokey atmosphere the same as before.
I can't wait for the summer when Sharks comes into it's own with the use of the gardens.[/QUOTE]Just normal, less pretty are for less expensive than few beauties. Not normal, not so pretty think they worth such expensive. Good game is to get pretty and elegant for 100/60 for full GFE.
Granny silicon is back, fortunately I didn't see her on Saturday.
Some Germans other than on table: blond Jasmin, very tall blond Alina, Lara and Polish ex Bruggen Amelia, but no wow.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2669882]FFP2 and data to write on desk, to enter.[/QUOTE]I was not asked to wear or buy a FFP2 mask on Saturday.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2670054]Since the reopening after the longest & first lockdown many of the girls increased prices from 30/100 & 60/150.
There are a few crazy girls who even suggest 200 for an amazing one hour.
What I have found since lockdown is that more girls "try it on" than before, in other words if they can get away with it they will charge as much as they think you will spend. Particularly if they think you're a tourist or newbie.
However there are still ladies who charge the old club standard rate of 30/50 & 60/100 and indeed a few who will drop their prices to this payment level after discussions. These girls are not necessarily the prettiest but service level is not reduced, in fact it's often better.
It was apparent to me on Saturday with not as many guys as usual present it was a buyers market if you "played your cards right".
Regarding extras they are all still available for the same prices as before.
Unfortunately the standard of food is still poor, especially the hot food and the Smokey atmosphere the same as before.
I can't wait for the summer when Sharks comes into it's own with the use of the gardens.[/QUOTE]Thanks Canary. Priceless content for intending visitors.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2669881]Prime is open but not sure high level casting. Now, Gold and Penelope seem higher ranked. Times changed.[/QUOTE]Most forumers were jamming about Gold 2-3 years as well. When it was an utter disaster of a lineup there.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2670139]I was not asked to wear or buy a FFP2 mask on Saturday.[/QUOTE]I was at 3.30 pm by bald guy before desk.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2670146]Most forumers were jamming about Gold 2-3 years as well. When it was an utter disaster of a lineup there.[/QUOTE]For my subjective tastes needing beauty, gold is better for me at the moment than Sharks. Even she is not good GFE in bed, but no Eli fresh natural elegant look, when I have pleasure to look at her, and my wow 40 yo woman who tells me I m not too big nor too hard for her, really relaxing to fuck with her, when she is really tight but far higher potential in bed than Marta. Col or Miss Sharks now, when she is for 80/60, half rate for higher level. When she works only when she needs, kind of part timer behavior and she says thank You in bed. I had great girls at Velbert, with higher level than Kate, but it was until 2017, when Hana was not pretty face enough for me. Had my first Turkish girls, 3, at Velbert, Darla and other who moved escort were wow, Jaylon was so sexy.
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About Dalmatia
[QUOTE=PonyBoy;2621483]I heard that Dalma was recently married so I guess she will not be working at least for a while or maybe for good.[/QUOTE]I'm a person who still has contact with her. Yes, she is married now and will not return to the club to work. Now she has the life she wanted and she is very happy.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2669676]Is there a reasonably priced fav hotel near Sharks?[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Pallas Hotel that is maybe a 15/20 minute walk away from Sharks. Also nice walk to Darmstadt downtown.
It's OK but no breakfast and needs automated check in. It has parking and it's right on top of a supermarket so foods are not a problem.
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[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2670364]I've stayed at the Pallas Hotel that is maybe a 15/20 minute walk away from Sharks. Also nice walk to Darmstadt downtown.
It's OK but no breakfast and needs automated check in. It has parking and it's right on top of a supermarket so foods are not a problem.[/QUOTE]Breakfast at Sharks until 3 pm.
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Dalma took someone I knew for tens of thousands of dollars. Good riddance to her. Shame on him.
Strange, as I thought she was sort of a chubby girl. Why so many men threw money at her, I have not idea.
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Is testing available on site at Sharks or does one have to get a test before visiting the club (for those who need a test)?
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2670705]Is testing available on site at Sharks or does one have to get a test before visiting the club (for those who need a test)?[/QUOTE]Yes fast test for 5€ and FFP2 for 1€.
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Hotel
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2669676]Is there a reasonably priced fav hotel near Sharks?[/QUOTE]I normally stay at the Intercity hotel next to Darmstadt Hbf. If you ask they will give you a free public transportation card for the stay. The bus #R which takes you to shark stops right outside.
Very clean and affordable hotel.
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Sharks 2022 - little bites
First night of 3 night trip early 2022. Last time in FKK land was September 2021. Naturally wondered what, if anything has changed. Answer. Not a lot.
Stayed at Intercity as Mojoman does. I used to stay at Maritim but horrible cobble stones to cross with case! Still same with Intercity but it is right next to Fitnessfabric. A magnificent gym with a great vibe. I have seen several of the Sharks girls in that gym over the years and in 2018 spoke to one of them and did an hour back at Intercity before going to Sharks!
So to the return. Normal entry, needed to show double vaccination plus booster but no issue having done so. Name requirement but nobody checks and therefore didn't use my name or number.
Arrived Friday 7 pm. Club fairly quiet but a LOT of old faces were present. Simone, Clara, Anna, Cosmina, and others. Shiva is there (Iranian) - very pretty face but big body. Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies. If that's your thing no problem. It's not mine. I like athletic / gym bodies and there were not many to see. Tamara approached early and was tempted. Pretty face but silicones did not tempt me. My long time sharks fav Vanilla came and said Hi and though facially she is only 7/10 her body is 10/10 gym ripped. Nearly succumbed early but managed to resist. First session with blonde tall Eva. Serbian with glasses and talons. Reasonable but no more than that. She was 100/30. I normally don't do short rooms but she was nothing special and I quit after 30 minutes and was glad time was up.
Bar staff largely the same but with new gay guy with green hair who was great fun!
Had the professional massage. Nearly had second session with Roxanna (pretty blonde) and her short dark haired friend (Beya?) but resisted.
I really do not understand the negative comments on here about the food. For me it is really good. Hot, good selection, beef is firm but not fatty and always plenty of fruits. Compare to Oase (see that thread for report tonight on day 2) and it is amazing at Sharks.
Final room. Had to be with Vanilla. She is expensive and upsells badly unless restrained, but her skills are fabulous. Did 1. 5 hours which, with two extras cost me a negotiated 270 which wasn't bad. I did have girls offering the usual old 50/30 and 60/ hour but not the prettier girls.
Overall line up was slightly disappointing. But miles better than Oase tonight. See report.
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Damn,
It sounds like sharks is still recovering.
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Masks
Masks are optional at Sharks now.
Must still show vaccination cards or pay the 5 euro at front for the Covid fast antigen test.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2670942]First night of 3 night trip early 2022. Last time in FKK land was September 2021. Naturally wondered what, if anything has changed. Answer. Not a lot.
Stayed at Intercity as Mojoman does. I used to stay at Maritim but horrible cobble stones to cross with case! Still same with Intercity but it is right next to Fitnessfabric. A magnificent gym with a great vibe. I have seen several of the Sharks girls in that gym over the years and in 2018 spoke to one of them and did an hour back at Intercity before going to Sharks!
So to the return. Normal entry, needed to show double vaccination plus booster but no issue having done so. Name requirement but nobody checks and therefore didn't use my name or number.
Arrived Friday 7 pm. Club fairly quiet but a LOT of old faces were present. Simone, Clara, Anna, Cosmina, and others. Shiva is there (Iranian) - very pretty face but big body. Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies. If that's your thing no problem. It's not mine. I like athletic / gym bodies and there were not many to see. Tamara approached early and was tempted. Pretty face but silicones did not tempt me. My long time sharks fav Vanilla came and said Hi and though facially she is only 7/10 her body is 10/10 gym ripped. Nearly succumbed early but managed to resist. First session with blonde tall Eva. Serbian with glasses and talons. Reasonable but no more than that. She was 100/30. I normally don't do short rooms but she was nothing special and I quit after 30 minutes and was glad time was up..[/QUOTE]Roxana is lovely sweet. Also no problem for me about foods, salmon when I arrive on time, good pastas, puree, yogurts, I wish for looks on same level than foods. About Oase, real visits just talk, when Sharks is really not at best at the moment.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2670963]Damn,
It sounds like sharks is still recovering.[/QUOTE]Based on my last visit a week ago I think you're right, it is still not as good as it was before but from my own experience it's still very much worth going. Otherwise I wouldn't be returning in three weeks.
It's worth noting that IMO Sharks has recovered much better than the other Frankfurt clubs.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2671098]Based on my last visit a week ago I think you're right, it is still not as good as it was before but from my own experience it's still very much worth going. Otherwise I wouldn't be returning in three weeks.
It's worth noting that IMO Sharks has recovered much better than the other Frankfurt clubs.[/QUOTE]Sharks was already number 1 around Frankfurt before covid, when other clubs were already most often quite empty, except Mainhattan on week ends evenings. Reason why so many girls left Oase where lack of business on 2019 , when I saw some new fresh beauties leaving after less than 2 weeks because not good business. And no tourists buses since covid, when most locals left Oase and Palace for Sharks.
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Most girls want stupid price in Sharks
I also like the Shark Club. But during Covid time the girls get crazy for the price. Special the new girls. What is more than 50%. I ask for normal service. But include French kissing and like my balls. A lot want to have for 30 min. 100 Euro. And that sorry is a no go and for sure I will never pay that but still some girls that offer that "normal" service for me also for the normal price. Some ask but than to stay one hour what is absolute OK. But never ever 100 Euro for 30 min. ! Nobody get this?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2670942]Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies.[/QUOTE]Right up my alley!
Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?
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Negotiating
With the obvious change in pricing has anyone tried negotiating on time?
€100 for 45 minutes. Maybe they would consider that a fair compromise. Your thoughts.
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[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2671500]With the obvious change in pricing has anyone tried negotiating on time?
100 for 45 minutes. Maybe they would consider that a fair compromise. Your thoughts.[/QUOTE]I've gone for this tactic several times and has only worked once for me. I'd be okay with this rate but find that the girls who are hell bent on the high prices are usually too stubborn to settle. I've even proposed committing to 2 hours for 200 with Melissa and she still would not budge.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2670942]Final room. Had to be with Vanilla. She is expensive and upsells badly unless restrained, but her skills are fabulous. Did 1. 5 hours which, with two extras cost me a negotiated 270 which wasn't bad. I did have girls offering the usual old 50/30 and 60/ hour but not the prettier girls.
Overall line up was slightly disappointing. But miles better than Oase tonight. See report.[/QUOTE]As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.
1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.
I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.
Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671607]As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.
1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.
I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.
Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.[/QUOTE]Big thanks for your great advice, waste of money for me to pay for such looks, when I prefer to pay for beauties and don't need to ask you from 100 to 150, when beauties for 150/60 are less expensive for me than Anka for 100/60. But I agree many Sharks girls don't worth 100/30 or 150/60, but none never forced me to go to room. Only Rhur German superstar for 60 really insisted I returned on Sunday after our at 4 am discovery when she was surprised compare to dirty Germans, but I didn't, now she knows, I want to be a number 1 choice or she doesn't deserve me among her busy business, when she doesn't need my money, but maybe she needs new sensations, when she is not able to keep control.
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[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2671486]Right up my alley!
Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?[/QUOTE]I saw lovely Latvian Marina, but not thicker Angelika.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671607]As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.
1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.
I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.
Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.[/QUOTE]I think you have to appreciate that for tourists (like me) it is difficult. We don't get to attend these clubs more than (for me) say x4 times or 5 max per year. We pay quite a lot to get to FKK land. Flights, airport parking, public transport or car hire, hotels etc before we paid a single entry fee. The build up to the wonderful FKK experience is always special. We are not used to being surrounded by 120 naked women! So keeping disciplined about negotiation is not that easy!
The trouble is, as has often been written, and as you are advocating, is that it only takes 3 or 4 guys to have a "I'll pay whatever she asks for" and it sends a big message, especially to the prettiest girls, that they can charge what they like. This was my 5th room with Vanilla and the first 5 minutes were awful as she announced, to my surprise, but only when the door was shut ("for the services you like baby it's now €300" I told her I need to put my towel back on and go back out before we touch so that at least I don't owe any money. She looked shocked. We then spent 5 minutes haggling and I was close to just ending it there. It is a total mood killer and as she said "talk so much about money is ugly". I told her I agreed. In the past for the same 1. 5 hours and services it was €200. This was obviously when it was 100/60 and she would agree one "free" extra if I guaranteed 1. 5 hours (150 and one 50 extra). In those days a girl on a guarantee of €200 for a session of 1. 5 hours was making decent money. I say "those days" - I'm talking January 2020 (when I also had one of my rooms with her). She said prices now were "post covid inflation". I burst out laughing.
On current pricing of 150/ hour, I considered to get to €200 for 1. 5 hours to be a good deal anyway and I know she likes the services I request. I was only really requesting the same "one free extra" but she hated coming down from €300 to €250.
In answer to the proposal Perfectionist suggests 100/45, I tend to find that this works much better if the girl knows she will get longer time. Obviously this only works if you know her and her services. But when you do, and they know it will be fun and not pressured, they'll often do deals. In my favourite two clubs in Spain the prices are 150/ hour (Estark 92 in Fuengirola) and 200/ hour in Scandalos (Malaga) (though many now try for 250). There are no 50 e extras. They either do them in the price or not. Most girls do most things but not all. In Estark with the girls I know I offer 250/2 hours. They all take it. In Scandalos I offer €350 two hours. Most (but not all) take it. Back to FKKs, I believe the girls would take €200 for 1. 5 hours if it was guaranteed before the start (with no extras).
The trouble is the difference in experience. In Spain I treat the clubs as a night out where at the end of a nice night with drinks and fun with the girls in the bar I will select one or two, negotiate and go have a party for 1. 5 or 2 hours. But that's my night done.
In FKK land I like to arrive much earlier, do a nice early room to get me into the mood, shower, food, recovery, massage, then finish off with another one or two sessions. I love the whole experience. But it is getting expensive to do it this way. To have several rooms in FKKs now requires an average spend, with entry, costing over €500 if you do like longer rooms. And even for an optifuk - €100 for 30 minutes is just crazy. One of my favourite ever days at Sharks was back in 2015 when I arrived at 2 pm and had four 50 e /30 min rooms (one outside) as entrees before the main event later. Fabulous entertainment and felt great fun having sessions with 5 girls in a day. I didn't even care about popping every time (not possible for me to have more than 2 in a day now). Just great fun. But not sure I want to be racking up 400 for quick sessions then a main session of nearly 300, add entry taxis and drinks and a great day in an FKK is €1000!
So whatever can be done to keep the prices down, and to discourage girls from major upsell without them having to give a lot, is worthwhile for all. And in the long run. As much for us tourists as locals.
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On the international womans days I hear there is a revolution ongoing. The BDSM, poly and sex workers want to redefine it.
I am thinking more in the lines of girls such as this:
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9666607/Five-polyamorous-women-arrive-court-support-boyfriend-accused-keeping-sex-slave.html[/URL]
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Stewardship
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2671715]I think you have to appreciate that for tourists (like me) it is difficult. We don't get to attend these clubs more than (for me) say x4 times or 5 max per year. We pay quite a lot to get to FKK land. Flights, airport parking, public transport or car hire, hotels etc before we paid a single entry fee. The build up to the wonderful FKK experience is always special. We are not used to being surrounded by 120 naked women! So keeping disciplined about negotiation is not that easy!
The trouble is, as has often been written, and as you are advocating, is that it only takes 3 or 4 guys to have a "I'll pay whatever she asks for" and it sends a big message, especially to the prettiest girls, that they can charge what they like. This was my 5th room with Vanilla and the first 5 minutes were awful as she announced, to my surprise, but only when the door was shut ("for the services you like baby it's now 300" I told her I need to put my towel back on and go back out before we touch so that at least I don't owe any money. She looked shocked..[/QUOTE]Yep, I get it. I also fly in several times per year and pay all of those expenses. But it's good to keep in mind that German FKKs are special for a reason, for the ability to take several high level girls in a single day that won't break the bank. Once the scene is ruined, well that's it for the concept of multi-fuck bacchanalias. No place in the Europe like it. Let's keep Spain in Spain, Brazil in Brazil, etc etc etc.
The 100% half hour and 50% full hour price increases is not "inflation. " It's 25 yo hookers exploiting grown men.
But your efforts are applauded. At least you're making an attempt at stewardship. Unfortunately your days of "several 50 e rooms before the main entree" will be long gone if certain mindsets are allowed to proliferate. No more tasting variety. The guys who are not affected are the ones who only do 1 room and get infatuated.
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Orthodox Easter or Easter Holiday
Hello,
I will be flying into Frankfurt for a week in April. I'm just worried that orthodox Easter or any week in Easter where the girls will be on holiday. Trying to find out a good week when all the girls will be working. If anyone is able to help, that will be greatly appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2671680]I saw lovely Latvian Marina, but not thicker Angelika.[/QUOTE]Ah, OK, than you anyways.
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[QUOTE=Btizzle123;2671798]Hello,
I will be flying into Frankfurt for a week in April. I'm just worried that orthodox Easter or any week in Easter where the girls will be on holiday. Trying to find out a good week when all the girls will be working. If anyone is able to help, that will be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Just to avoid around Orthodox Easter. Sharks casting should improve with time, wishing for new fresh elegant beauties.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2672057]Just to avoid around Orthodox Easter. Sharks casting should improve with time, wishing for new fresh elegant beauties.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sirioja. So you would say a full lineup would still be there during April 6 to 11 or April 13-18?
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Payment. Upfront / after?
I have never been to an FKK and have my first trip planned in less than a month. I neverrrr pay up front as once you do, you lose all control. However I know FKKS are a bit of a different world, so what is the protocol here?
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[QUOTE=Btizzle123;2672107]Thank you Sirioja. So you would say a full lineup would still be there during April 6 to 11 or April 13-18?[/QUOTE]Many should leave 1 week before.
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[QUOTE=Btizzle123;2672107]Thank you Sirioja. So you would say a full lineup would still be there during April 6 to 11 or April 13-18?[/QUOTE]I expect that Orthodox girls will start heading home April 20 and then return after a week or more.
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150 for 60 is reasonable rate for private, inside club not so much
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671741]The 100% half hour and 50% full hour price increases is not "inflation. " It's 25 yo hookers exploiting grown men.[/QUOTE]I paid 150/60 for Melissa when she worked privately. Inside Sharks, I would not pay her this same rate unless she included a "traditional" extra. When a WG works outside the club, she incurs more risk, so she deserves to be compensated more. For her, there is both a physical safety risk, and a financial loss risk. For example, many clients cancel last minute or no-show, making it difficult for her to find a replacement client.
When I am meeting a WG privately, I have a higher expectation that she will keep her promise on the pre-agreed appointment time. When I am at the FKK, I am more flexible, because I only attend FKK if I have at least a 5-6 hour free block of time. This means I am okay with being her "next" client, whether that is 30 minutes from now or 3-4 hours from now. Outside the club, I am asking for a "guaranteed" appointment time, so paying her 150/60 is more than fair.
Also, I still have a few regulars at Sharks, some more than five years. When they are offering me legacy pricing, they are making the extra effort to retain me, so that makes me want to reward their goodwill with my business.
Final reason why I am willing to pay more for private: if I am seeing a WG at her incall location, I save both on hotel and club entry.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2672255]I expect that Orthodox girls will start heading home April 20 and then return after a week or more.[/QUOTE]Sunday or Monday before and as long they want. Some have pressure to return fast.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2672412]I paid 150/60 for Melissa when she worked privately. Inside Sharks, I would not pay her this same rate unless she included a "traditional" extra. When a WG works outside the club, she incurs more risk, so she deserves to be compensated more. For her, there is both a physical safety risk, and a financial loss risk. For example, many clients cancel last minute or no-show, making it difficult for her to find a replacement client.
When I am meeting a WG privately, I have a higher expectation that she will keep her promise on the pre-agreed appointment time. When I am at the FKK, I am more flexible, because I only attend FKK if I have at least a 5-6 hour free block of time. This means I am okay with being her "next" client, whether that is 30 minutes from now or 3-4 hours from now. Outside the club, I am asking for a "guaranteed" appointment time, so paying her 150/60 is more than fair.
Also, I still have a few regulars at Sharks, some more than five years. When they are offering me legacy pricing, they are making the extra effort to retain me, so that makes me want to reward their goodwill with my business.
Final reason why I am willing to pay more for private: if I am seeing a WG at her incall location, I save both on hotel and club entry.[/QUOTE]When I didn't learn grocery in my highest level school, sexy Melissa used to already ask 100/30 and 150/60 before covid and she was honest to tell while chat when she is more interesting than average. But I would not go with her for escort, because not GFE enough for me. I smiled when reading some Germans pay 150 for girls I paid 100. In my arithmetic, I can pay 150/60 for rare beauties, when I won t pay 50 for around 90% FKK girls, when many pay 100 or more for them.
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March 20
I am wondering if someone know what will be the rules after March 20?
Would you still need to do a test before going in?
Show vaccine record?
Are girls walking with masks?
Does anyone know if the German government requires traveller from other countries (Canada) to show a proof of negative covid test. Hoping travel from Canada to Frankfurt and if this March and any information will help.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Drorisol;2673321]I am wondering if someone know what will be the rules after March 20?
Would you still need to do a test before going in?
Show vaccine record?
Are girls walking with masks?
Does anyone know if the German government requires traveller from other countries (Canada) to show a proof of negative covid test. Hoping travel from Canada to Frankfurt and if this March and any information will help.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's not clear yet. It is expected that face masks will be required on public transport and in hospitals but not elsewhere. There has been no reports so far on entry requirements changing, if you have proof of vaccination, you can enter the country. Checks on vaccination status for shops and elsewhere may not be required any more. Furthermore each state can implement their own additional restrictions.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2672412]For her, there is both a physical safety risk, and a financial loss risk. For example, many clients cancel last minute or no-show, making it difficult for her to find a replacement client.
[/QUOTE]I disagree.
1. Most mongers are not serial killers. If you have a WG you've seen countless times, there's a good chance you're not going to murder them. Most WGs will not meet someone privately until they've already seen them at the FKK plenty of times. I've mongered in several countries and some of the most expensive escorts have no idea who I could be before they came to my hotel. And they still show up. Why? Because most mongers are not serial killers and there's zero chance you could get away with doing something shady at a hotel who has a copy of your passport.
2. If the client cancels last minute or is a no-show, the WG can go to the FKK and meet new clients for the night. But again, many high end escorts combat this by simply asking for a non-refundable deposit of like $200. This ensure that both parties are serious.
3. From a safety standpoint, an outcall is safer than an incall. Incalls, a crazy person knows exactly where to find you. Outcalls, you can simply make sure their address is a reputable hotel and refuse to go to any shady address or run down motels. Also, many escorts will have a friend/agency/security in their contacts who is instructed to call the police or hotel if the escort doesn't come out in the expected time, or if the escort doesn't send them the "I'm ok" text.
If I meet a WG privately, I'm compensating her for taking the time to commute and hang out with me for the GFE of several hours. If there is a safety or financial issue, she would never agree to any outcalls.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2673427]I disagree.
1. Most mongers are not serial killers. If you have a WG you've seen countless times, there's a good chance you're not going to murder them. Most WGs will not meet someone privately until they've already seen them at the FKK plenty of times. I've mongered in several countries and some of the most expensive escorts have no idea who I could be before they came to my hotel. And they still show up. Why? Because most mongers are not serial killers and there's zero chance you could get away with doing something shady at a hotel who has a copy of your passport.[/QUOTE]It literally takes just one violent monger. The prevalence is enough for multiple club girls to come out with stories of violence and even forced sex when they were working privates. These things rarely happen in the clubs. A benefit for sure that justifies some price difference between club rate and private rate.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2673427]I disagree.
1. Most mongers are not serial killers. If you have a WG you've seen countless times, there's a good chance you're not going to murder them. Most WGs will not meet someone privately until they've already seen them at the FKK plenty of times. I've mongered in several countries and some of the most expensive escorts have no idea who I could be before they came to my hotel. And they still show up. Why? Because most mongers are not serial killers and there's zero chance you could get away with doing something shady at a hotel who has a copy of your passport.[/QUOTE]The risk is still present when you're dealing with irrational punters. A link to Just one of several cases of murder, that I know of, from a high-end hotel in Zurich.
[URL]https://www.thelocal.ch/20170728/banker-prison-dolder-grand-murder-prostitute-in-swiss-luxury-hotel/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2673427]I disagree.
1. Most mongers are not serial killers. If you have a WG you've seen countless times, there's a good chance you're not going to murder them. Most WGs will not meet someone privately until they've already seen them at the FKK plenty of times. I've mongered in several countries and some of the most expensive escorts have no idea who I could be before they came to my hotel. And they still show up. Why? Because most mongers are not serial killers and there's zero chance you could get away with doing something shady at a hotel who has a copy of your passport.
2. If the client cancels last minute or is a no-show, the WG can go to the FKK and meet new clients for the night. But again, many high end escorts combat this by simply asking for a non-refundable deposit of like $200. This ensure that both parties are serious.
3. From a safety standpoint, an outcall is safer than an incall. Incalls, a crazy person knows exactly where to find you. Outcalls, you can simply make sure their address is a reputable hotel and refuse to go to any shady address or run down motels. Also, many escorts will have a friend/agency/security in their contacts who is instructed to call the police or hotel if the escort doesn't come out in the expected time, or if the escort doesn't send them the "I'm ok" text.
If I meet a WG privately, I'm compensating her for taking the time to commute and hang out with me for the GFE of several hours. If there is a safety or financial issue, she would never agree to any outcalls.[/QUOTE]Few years ago, a girl who worked at Sharks was murdered in a hotel around Frankfurt by a regular client. Some girls are hard beaten by their peste / pimp. My big shame for France is more than 100 women are murdered by companion every year. I heard many Germans who told they escort, but prefer to work in clubs because more safe than escort.
Some Sharks girls seem to move. Not so good business? When my new German discovery is full busy elsewhere, but now she makes free for me, she seems to see different manners.
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Current situation at Sharks
Hi,
Just a few questions please:
How many girls show up at Sharks recently? In the weekend? In the week? Many men?
Is 100/30 m and 150/60 m the new standard for good service (FK, BBJ, DATY /69.)?
How much does it cost approximately airport-Sharks by taxi?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2674000]Hi,
Just a few questions please:
How many girls show up at Sharks recently? In the weekend? In the week? Many men?
Is 100/30 m and 150/60 m the new standard for good service (FK, BBJ, DATY /69.)?
How much does it cost approximately airport-Sharks by taxi?.[/QUOTE]Quantity is not quality. More crowded at night, but more drinking than fucking. And when I see how my NRW new German is fast to finish Turkish in around 15 mn. I m happy free speed again for 4 lines south airport. Was unfortunately too late on Friday evening.
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Advice
I am wondering what is better.
1. Come to shark (traveling from Canada) from the 22 Tuesday to the 25 (not include 25). Or.
2. Come to shark from 25 (Friday) to the 28 (not include 28.
In one point I am thinking there will be more good looking girls on the weekend but in the other end I think maybe the girls will ask for more money because they are busy on the weekend and service will be bad because they want other client?
I am thinking on a week day the girls will have more time and I can get good service but the question is if the good looking girls also work week days?
Any advice I can get will be great.
By the way, is Sabrina (from world) still working for shark? Is she there at the moment?
I saw her last time 7 years ago and she was absolutely stunning, is she as good looking as she used to be?
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Hotel near shark
Last time I was at shark I slept at contel hotel as it was very close to shark.
But I don't like this hotel so I am thinking to use holiday in express. It say it is only few minutes drive to shark and taxi is about 10 euro. Did any one use holiday in before and can say if it is ok hotel. Does anyone else have other for nearby hotels?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2672057]Just to avoid around Orthodox Easter. Sharks casting should improve with time, wishing for new fresh elegant beauties.[/QUOTE]When does the pool open? That'll be the best lineup.
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Total cost
I understand there is a club fee each day. What is the range of money required to compensate a woman there?
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[QUOTE=Drorisol;2674021]I am wondering what is better.
1. Come to shark (traveling from Canada) from the 22 Tuesday to the 25 (not include 25). Or.
2. Come to shark from 25 (Friday) to the 28 (not include 28.
In one point I am thinking there will be more good looking girls on the weekend but in the other end I think maybe the girls will ask for more money because they are busy on the weekend and service will be bad because they want other client?
I am thinking on a week day the girls will have more time and I can get good service but the question is if the good looking girls also work week days?
Any advice I can get will be great.
By the way, is Sabrina (from world) still working for shark? Is she there at the moment?
I saw her last time 7 years ago and she was absolutely stunning, is she as good looking as she used to be?[/QUOTE]Rates won't go up drastically over the weekend. However the quality and quantity does go up. I recommend going on 25/26 to get the weekend specials. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Drorisol;2674021]I am wondering what is better.
1. Come to shark (traveling from Canada) from the 22 Tuesday to the 25 (not include 25). Or.
2. Come to shark from 25 (Friday) to the 28 (not include 28.
In one point I am thinking there will be more good looking girls on the weekend but in the other end I think maybe the girls will ask for more money because they are busy on the weekend and service will be bad because they want other client?
I am thinking on a week day the girls will have more time and I can get good service but the question is if the good looking girls also work week days?
Any advice I can get will be great.
By the way, is Sabrina (from world) still working for shark? Is she there at the moment?
I saw her last time 7 years ago and she was absolutely stunning, is she as good looking as she used to be?[/QUOTE]Tall blond Sabina and also Alina are at Sharks. Still good looking without silicon nor tattoos for both after so many years, when I remember at World on 2014, but it was another world for FKK. Same for Cosmina I got brunette on 2014, but I preferred more impressive Barbie Ingrid I found again later at Neunkirchen. I regret I will probably never play bonobo in tree at World with a elegant chic classy princess, when I m still powerful, girls asking: You take viagra? No, even when no sport, I don t need.
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[QUOTE=Drorisol;2674036]Last time I was at shark I slept at contel hotel as it was very close to shark.
But I don't like this hotel so I am thinking to use holiday in express. It say it is only few minutes drive to shark and taxi is about 10 euro. Did any one use holiday in before and can say if it is ok hotel. Does anyone else have other for nearby hotels?[/QUOTE]This was discussed recently, go back a few pages.
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[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2674065]I understand there is a club fee each day. What is the range of money required to compensate a woman there?[/QUOTE]Starts at 50 but mostly likely 100 euro bucks to get a decent session.
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2674000]Hi,
Just a few questions please:
How many girls show up at Sharks recently? In the weekend? In the week? Many men?
Is 100/30 m and 150/60 m the new standard for good service (FK, BBJ, DATY /69.)?
How much does it cost approximately airport-Sharks by taxi?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just read the whole topic and you know everything.
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[QUOTE=Mechelen;2674262]Just read the whole topic and you know everything.[/QUOTE]It would have taken exactly the same time for you to provide any useful information instead of a useless message. And no, there are no clear answers.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2674151]Tall blond Sabina and also Alina are at Sharks. Still good looking without silicon nor tattoos for both after so many years, when I remember at World on 2014, but it was another world for FKK. Same for Cosmina I got brunette on 2014, but I preferred more impressive Barbie Ingrid I found again later at Neunkirchen. I regret I will probably never play bonobo in tree at World with a elegant chic classy princess, when I m still powerful, girls asking: You take viagra? No, even when no sport, I don t need.[/QUOTE]For both Alina and Sabrina, starting early and finishing before midnight.
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What would you do?
Hi guys!
I have Tuesday until Saturday to have fun around Frankfurt.
I definitely want to visit Sharks and Oase. And maybe also Palace but I'm not sure.
My question is that what day and what time would you go to these places?
I want to have a good time, feel the atmosphere and maybe fo to few rooms also.
What would be your perfect schedule?
TIA!
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2674000]Hi,
Just a few questions please:
How many girls show up at Sharks recently? In the weekend? In the week? Many men?
Is 100/30 m and 150/60 m the new standard for good service (FK, BBJ, DATY /69.)?
How much does it cost approximately airport-Sharks by taxi?.[/QUOTE]Best casting days are Friday and Saturday from 4/5 pm to midnight. Sharks is not so crowded for business until 9/10 pm and then, Balkanians spend more for alcohol than girls. Many girls ask now 100/30 and at least 150/60 , when not many are pretty enough for such rates. Some are still for 100/60 . Seem, some girls don t ask same rate to all of us.
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[QUOTE=Willi127;2674376]Hi guys!
I have Tuesday until Saturday to have fun around Frankfurt.
I definitely want to visit Sharks and Oase. And maybe also Palace but I'm not sure.
My question is that what day and what time would you go to these places?
I want to have a good time, feel the atmosphere and maybe fo to few rooms also.
What would be your perfect schedule?[/QUOTE]I would visit Sharks on Wednesday with entry 50, Oase on Thursday, Sharks or Palace before 4 pm for entry 50 on Friday and you can then decide for Saturday. Many Palace girls seem to be for 100/30 and 150/60, like many at Sharks.
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I visited Sharks a few weeks ago, and this is my initial assessment;.
*) quick parking in front of the building, paying E5 for a quickie test because I'm unvaxxed and in I go! The bald guy who works for security tried to push me into buying an FFP2 mask despite having my own mask, but I held firm so he relented. A sign of upselling to come?
*) Line up was mediocre at best. A few expensive (see below) hotties but with a giant arrogant attitude. As always I arrived early during a weekend, and when I walked in I was pleasantly surprised that many people decided to ignore the silly mask requirement. Most WGs just sat around looking bored and talking to each other, so after a few laps around the bar I decided to start with a nice hot sauna.
*) After the sauna, I decided to interview the few candidates that fit my liking, but this is where the trouble began. It's not my first time in an FKK club and I am reasonably good to spot upsellers and scammers from a mile away, and when a girl gives me the "well, my 'service' starts at E100, but we can make it extra nice for E150" line then you know that you're being scammed. Most dumb American / Asian sex tourists obviously have no issue with that, but for someone who has more options I just don't go for it. Before the plandemic, most girls would be open and honest and tell you the E50/30 deal and the prices for possible extras like anal, and the few scammers would try the "E100/30 but then it will be extra nice" bullshit. Nowadays it's the other way around: almost exclusively scammers and upsellers. Don't get me wrong, a E50 optik fuck is nice and I have no problem with that, but E100 is just way too expensive for quick 15-20 minutes in a room, and most of these arrogant tutes seriously lack the personality to spend any more time in a room with.
*) The wellness is still nice, although unfortunately I didn't see Stephan from Bulgaria for a good massage. The other guy, Khalid, is nice but despite his pumped up appearance, his massages are way too soft.
*) The food never was a major selling point for Sharks, but now it's really horrible. I wouldn't even give that to my cat! BYO!
*) As I was mentally preparing myself for the disappointment of leaving "unfucked" I was lucky that I met an old (pre CONvid) acquaintance so we spent a nice 1,5 hours together for the old price. Of course I got her number, so that when my QR Yellow Star expires (only 3 months valid) we can still meet up outside Sharks if I'm in the area. For obvious reasons (cat fights and mobbing) I'm sorry that I won't mention the name of my old favourite who saved my evening.
Some girls; I'm not really good with names but I'll try to describe them.
Near the dancing pole were two girls I liked;.
1) one girl was Romanian, had big silicone implants, tattoos, wearing sexy lingerie, blond half-long hair, and she had a very cute almost Scandinavian face. A really great combination of porno and sweetness. For her I would have made an exception to my E100/30 ban, but unfortunately she disappeared to a room.
2) another Romanian girl, muscular legs, nice bubble butt (although I suspect implants), big silicone implants, sexy pointy nipples, long dark hair, full (botox) lips, but bad facial skin. She looks a little bit like a porno version of Irina Shayk, but with bad skin.
At the "German Table" was another hot Romanian: dark slightly curly hair, implants, tattoos, blue eyes, but unfortunately a very arrogant attitude. At the other side of the bar (near the steps to the caves and the staff entrance for the bar) was a similarly hot Romanian, again dark straight hair, implants, good curves.
Some familiar faces from January 2020; Julie (Moldavia), Catalina (gained some weight), the 'Egyptian' princess, and a few others that I don't know the names of.
All in all, the club really lacked a nice ambiance. Most German men are discussing politics (Ukraine) or watching football, most women looked bored and frustrated. I stayed until late, but I didn't see many people (mostly tourists, happily willing to be fleeced) going upstairs for a room. Most women (except for the cute blond Romanian from the pole dancing area) that I fancied seemed like glued to their chairs and were hardly doing any rooms.
I have no idea who is pushing these girls into that ridiculous E100/30 or E150/60 'strategy' (maybe their "boyfriends? But it's clearly not working. Worse yet, it is dragging the whole club to a lower and lower level, as for a weekend it was very empty.
P.S. Ignore most of what you read on the German forums, they simply won't allow anything negative to be posted because they want to push the 'your life will instantly return to normal as long as you get vaxxed' narrative. Sharks in March 2022 is a long shot from being normal and more and more people realize this and won't bother to visit.
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Looking for ladyT
Better foods: salmon, cakes, fruits, yogurts, puree, pastas, rice, kartofen, chili, than casting on this Saturday with quite slow business. Happy to see long time Madalina, Marina. Lat. Viorica is back with different hairstyle. Alina and Sabina, Roxana, Shiva ex Oase, long time Cosmina. When I went for one, but she is not back, so, after my Rhur night, no room for me at Sharks I much preferred on 2021 when I visited weekly. If bad conditions for ski, when kind of Russian ghost at Globe, I don t plan to stop at Sharks but to push to Dusseldorf, even really long drive.
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3 G 2 G+ rule
Initially, March 20 was planned for the end of all major covid19 restrictions.
However, After March 20, 2 G+ rule still apply in clubs. No idea for these brainless politicians.
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Japaneses in FKK?
Has anyone seen Japs working at any FKK?
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Wingmen
I'll be in Frankfurt afternoon of 2nd and all of 3rd April. Flying back out on 4th. I'm keen to visit a few FKKs and see what it's about. Don't massively fancy doing it like a solo tourist Billy no mates. If anyone is in town and wants a wingman let me know.
Field.
Edit - apologies moving to the general chat thread.
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Golf & FKK
Any UK golfers who fancy a trip. Golf by day FKK by night!
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2677258]Has anyone seen Japs working at any FKK?[/QUOTE]In over 15 years of going to FKKs I've never seen Japanese. I've done Chinese and Korean though. I've done Japanese in Barcelona. All were banged 10 years and more ago.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2677258]Has anyone seen Japs working at any FKK?[/QUOTE]Japanese Coco at Amesia Zurich, but not pretty.
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[QUOTE=FieldDay;2677387]I'll be in Frankfurt afternoon of 2nd and all of 3rd April. Flying back out on 4th. I'm keen to visit a few FKKs and see what it's about. Don't massively fancy doing it like a solo tourist Billy no mates. If anyone is in town and wants a wingman let me know.
Field.
Edit - apologies moving to the general chat thread.[/QUOTE]For discovery, better you concentrate on girls rather than wasting time with guys. After finishing again when club was closed, after 5 am on Saturday, even Balkanians can t compete with my power in deep Rhur. As told my wow German: You really don t need viagra. After a pit stop at Gold on opening, but no 40 yo real woman, so I left without entering and drove nearly 300 kms, good run, for elegant ladyT, my Sharks 2021 girl, but unfortunately not back and no other could compete with her rare elegance and interesting woman type, so same like on 9 December, I preferred no room. Disappointment killed my energy to return to Rhur which is higher level at the moment. Unfortunately, Rhur is so far from ski tour now, when Globe is not anymore to rush to.
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Saturday, March 19th.
I visited Sharks on Saturday, March 19th. The supply was just fine. Maybe too much silicone for some girls.
I took an hour session with Romanian girl Anastasia and another session with some Italian girl. Both were 150 euros with some extras and I got really good service from both girls.
The food was good, chicken and meat. Admission 50 euros. Covid vaccination certificate was asked at the counter.
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[QUOTE=Asakku;2677990]I visited Sharks on Saturday, March 19th. The supply was just fine. Maybe too much silicone for some girls.
I took an hour session with Romanian girl Anastasia and another session with some Italian girl. Both were 150 euros with some extras and I got really good service from both girls.
The food was good, chicken and meat. Admission 50 euros. Covid vaccination certificate was asked at the counter.[/QUOTE]Entry 50 on Saturday at Sharks? Lucky You could find attractive when poor casting for my eyes. My new Rhur was even higher level for looks on last night, even I go only with wow DE.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2675093]Sharks in March 2022 is a long shot from being normal and more and more people realize this and won't bother to visit.[/QUOTE]There are other place in this world. Back in Nov, I vacation in Sao Paulo. In Jan, I took vacation in Rio. I like Rio better. I will not go back to FKK until thing return back to normal.
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Recent Sharks visit
I recently had my first Sharks visit since before the pandemic started. The layout and most things were exactly as they were two and a half years ago when I had my last visit. Had to show proof of vaccination, but no masks required anymore. In my opinion, food wasn't that bad, but perhaps I got lucky.
The girls were way more aggressive with me than I ever experienced before there. A few who I ignored blocked my way when I was walking and tried to stop me from passing. Others I tried to ignore grabbed me. They were even very aggressive when I was in the hot tubs. Quality isn't what it was before covid, but it was good enough. The girl I fancied the most had a bit of an attitude, so I decided to avoid her. Then my next choice was a skinny blonde (Anastasia) who asked me to buy her a drink within 10 seconds of initiating contact. That's a big red flag for me and possibly a warning of upselling to come, so I deserted her at the bar when she waved the bartender over. I ended up having my only room with Adrianna. She claimed to be new (started a week ago) and was a friendly, skinny with small As, with only one tattoo (on her left thigh). $100 for 30 minutes including DFK and OWO. I enjoyed my session with her and will repeat when I return.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2675093]
I have no idea who is pushing these girls into that ridiculous E100/30 or E150/60 'strategy' (maybe their "boyfriends? But it's clearly not working. Worse yet, it is dragging the whole club to a lower and lower level, as for a weekend it was very empty.
[/QUOTE]It's supply and demand. If a man only likes 3 women out the 50+ there, there's a good chance he's going to pay 100 euros for 30 minutes when he talks to one of the 3.
Many of the women I take are tall or they have big natural tits, and genetically speaking, are absolutely worth the 100 euros for 30 minutes they want. No one forced me to go to the FKK, and I can just go to Brazil, Colombia,
Thailand, Dubai, etc if I'm tired of the FKK.
At the end of the day, the prices worldwide have increased. The only solution would be to pick a cheaper hobby and for me, that's not going to happen.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2677585]Japanese Coco at Amesia Zurich, but not pretty.[/QUOTE]Japanese girls have the ugliest legs. They all have cricked teeth and rely on massive facial surgery like eyes, nose, and they charge so much.
For average service. That's your explanation for the Japs having negative growth rates and population extinction.
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2678399]There are other place in this world. Back in Nov, I vacation in Sao Paulo. In Jan, I took vacation in Rio. I like Rio better. I will not go back to FKK until thing return back to normal..[/QUOTE]Sharks or Globe or Bruggen before are not whole FKK land. Globe is not anymore king level but just porn level. Sharks on beginning of this year is not on 2021 level. But I have a great start on this year elsewhere and I drove 1200 kms in a night for my wow DE for having love as she says and taking 3 showers from her. But I wish for a return at Sharks and also new fresh natural beauties.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention something stupid I did when not paying attention. Let it serve as a warning to others or a laugh at my expense. After my session with Adrianna, I went to the restrooms in the far back left corner to use the mouthwash. Still in a post-copulation daze, I grabbed a tiny cup, filled it up and shot the contents into my mouth. On the first swish, I tasted the most vile thing I've ever tasted (which is saying a lot considering my mongering history) and my mouth was on fire, burning like never before. I heaved out the disgusting contents of my mouth. I then looked over and noticed the mouthwash dispenser is literally right next to the hand sanitizer, and I filled the cup with the wrong liquid. I spent the next five minutes swishing and gargling mouthwash and water trying to get every drop of the poison out. It took some time for my mouth to stop burning. I'll never make that mistake again!
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2678420]I recently had my first Sharks visit since before the pandemic started. The layout and most things were exactly as they were two and a half years ago when I had my last visit. Had to show proof of vaccination, but no masks required anymore. In my opinion, food wasn't that bad, but perhaps I got lucky.
The girls were way more aggressive with me than I ever experienced before there. A few who I ignored blocked my way when I was walking and tried to stop me from passing. Others I tried to ignore grabbed me. They were even very aggressive when I was in the hot tubs. Quality isn't what it was before covid, but it was good enough. The girl I fancied the most had a bit of an attitude, so I decided to avoid her. Then my next choice was a skinny blonde (Anastasia) who asked me to buy her a drink within 10 seconds of initiating contact. That's a big red flag for me and possibly a warning of upselling to come, so I deserted her at the bar when she waved the bartender over. I ended up having my only room with Adrianna. She claimed to be new (started a week ago) and was a friendly, skinny with small As, with only one tattoo (on her left thigh). $100 for 30 minutes including DFK and OWO. I enjoyed my session with her and will repeat when I return.[/QUOTE]Brunette Adriana under fish was at Sharks 3 years ago. She just stopped under covid.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2678532]It's supply and demand. If a man only likes 3 women out the 50+ there, there's a good chance he's going to pay 100 euros for 30 minutes when he talks to one of the 3.
Many of the women I take are tall or they have big natural tits, and genetically speaking, are absolutely worth the 100 euros for 30 minutes they want. No one forced me to go to the FKK, and I can just go to Brazil, Colombia,
Thailand, Dubai, etc if I'm tired of the FKK.
At the end of the day, the prices worldwide have increased. The only solution would be to pick a cheaper hobby and for me, that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]When I have very cheap Summer holidays, sleeping with my best friend around 1000 € bicycle in car when I'm at the end of the world, only with my balls to be able to climb when I will never see any of my followers in the steep behind me always facing the steepest for pleasure of effort, not curving like Italians, but I agree to pay 150/60 which is less expensive than 100/30, but only for high beauties behaving real GFE, but I didn't see any on 2022, when my only Sharks girl I paid this rate lost freshness for GFE and vagina, hiding now behind heavy gothic style make up. Average looks ask such expensive rate, but Sharks seem now slow business and even on Saturdays evenings. I don t forget Sharks was my best club on 2021, far higher level than Globe or Wellcum, but not the most interesting on beginning of 2022 compare to NRW or 6. Will have to go to discover Atlantis. At between Munich and Kitzbühel, I love discovery and what a run. I will learn curves for I wish 300 on this Summer when Bavaria is good for top speed.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2678532]It's supply and demand. If a man only likes 3 women out the 50+ there, there's a good chance he's going to pay 100 euros for 30 minutes when he talks to one of the 3.
Many of the women I take are tall or they have big natural tits, and genetically speaking, are absolutely worth the 100 euros for 30 minutes they want. No one forced me to go to the FKK, and I can just go to Brazil, Colombia,
Thailand, Dubai, etc if I'm tired of the FKK.
At the end of the day, the prices worldwide have increased. The only solution would be to pick a cheaper hobby and for me, that's not going to happen.[/QUOTE]Stay out of the FKK Clubs and bring your 100/30 to another country. We don't need your demand in Germany.
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[QUOTE=PhuckBiden;2678658]Stay out of the FKK Clubs and bring your 100/30 to another country. We don't need your demand in Germany.[/QUOTE]Germans and locals pay 100/30 and 150/60. Because I tried to find about my ladyT, I read on luscout and laughed guys there paid a Moldavian at Sharks 150/60, when she never told about money, so I gave her 100/60. New rates are from lockdown when Germans and locals went to apartments to fuck Sharks girls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2678759]Germans and locals pay 100/30 and 150/60. Because I tried to find about my ladyT, I read on luscout and laughed guys there paid a Moldavian at Sharks 150/60, when she never told about money, so I gave her 100/60. New rates are from lockdown when Germans and locals went to apartments to fuck Sharks girls.[/QUOTE]That's local apartment rates. Not FKK Club rates.
Germans and locals pay Club rates is still 50/30 100/60.
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[QUOTE=PhuckBiden;2678836]That's local apartment rates. Not FKK Club rates.
Germans and locals pay Club rates is still 50/30 100/60.[/QUOTE]Read on luscout how some, who write on luscout? Paid 150/60 when I paid 100/60 with a Moldavian who never told about money with me. Another French who claimed to be her regular when I was not, was also surprised. In deep Rhur, my wow DE now tell me: give me what you want, when she is full busy and don t need my new business, but when I told her after our wet night I should return on end of April after my ski tour, she looked at me, telling: so long time? So, I told her: if not good weather for free ride, I will come, when 1000 kms and risky Switzerland between.
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[QUOTE=PhuckBiden;2678836]That's local apartment rates. Not FKK Club rates.
Germans and locals pay Club rates is still 50/30 100/60.[/QUOTE]Addicts pay 150/60 because they've been craving for prostitutes during all the lockdowns.
I laughed a lot when I read on a French forum that a guy payed 100/60 for Olivia the German girl when for my second visit, I payed the same price for one hour and a half.
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Yesterday at Sharks
I was there at Sharks from 6 pm to 11 pm yesterday. Given Friday I thought there was quite a few girls and also punters. But unusually the lighting was dim. I don't come here often but don't remember it.
My experience was ok but I must say most girls were very transactional. Looking to upsell and be aggressive. Seems a change.
I have never paid extra for ball licking or fingering pussy but every girl I spoke to was charging 50 e extra for each.
What is the experience of frequent punters? Is it a function of being new to sharks or they assuming it will be 30 minutes so why work so hard.
I was with Alina and she was very sweet and pleasant. The other girl was a disaster. No french kissing, constantly trying to control and manage. Go slow, kiss slow, now fuck faster.
I thought globe was getting worse. What is happening here?
I am here for a few more days and would go for the pretty face and good body with reliable service type of brunette or blond with all natural. From the list in the forum of sabrina, cosmina, shiva, catelaya, etc. Any suggestions on the lineup?
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2678420]I recently had my first Sharks visit since before the pandemic started. The layout and most things were exactly as they were two and a half years ago when I had my last visit. Had to show proof of vaccination, but no masks required anymore. In my opinion, food wasn't that bad, but perhaps I got lucky.
The girls were way more aggressive with me than I ever experienced before there. A few who I ignored blocked my way when I was walking and tried to stop me from passing. Others I tried to ignore grabbed me. They were even very aggressive when I was in the hot tubs. Quality isn't what it was before covid, but it was good enough. The girl I fancied the most had a bit of an attitude, so I decided to avoid her. Then my next choice was a skinny blonde (Anastasia) who asked me to buy her a drink within 10 seconds of initiating contact. That's a big red flag for me and possibly a warning of upselling to come, so I deserted her at the bar when she waved the bartender over. I ended up having my only room with Adrianna. She claimed to be new (started a week ago) and was a friendly, skinny with small As, with only one tattoo (on her left thigh). $100 for 30 minutes including DFK and OWO. I enjoyed my session with her and will repeat when I return.[/QUOTE]I think I have gone to the room with Anastasia. Her upsell was straightforward and honest to me. I was impressed. I imagine they change up for different types of guys and situations. I read that recently. Part of her upsell might be getting a feel for you over a drink and then blowing your mind so you give the maximum in return. Sorry if this is stupid.
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First visit after the whole covid fiasco
As others have mentioned, Once you show your proof of vaccination while warning a FFP2 mask (can be bought from pharmacies / grocery store for 1 euro). You can throw away your mask and act as if covid pandamic doesn't exist.
Friday 5 PM to 11 PM.
Romanain 22 years old: 1 hour /150 euro, 2 pops, DFK, OWO, DATY, GV. : she went all out, you could really tell she's trying to please and even wanted to stay a bit for " pillow talk" afterwards 10/10.
Romanian 18 years old: 30 minutes /100 euro, DFK, OWO, DATY, GV. : I was able to do everything but she was trying rush things a bit. Still it was a good session she was hot AF. 7/10.
Romanian 34 years old: 30 minutes /50 euro CBJ, HJ. : I didn't want to pop a 4th time but I was bored and wanted the try the 50 euro/30 minutes post covid service. God damn she was pissed for not paying her a 100. Even the fucking next day she complained how I paid her only 50 euros for CBJ / HJ. She Kept on nagging me every possible encounter while (sitting / eating / walking around the bar). Its amazing how she can feel that entitled for someone of her age 1/10.
Thai masseuse ( the thin one): 30 minutes /30 euros. THE absolute best massage I have ever had. Highly recommended! 20/20.
Romanian masseuse (the young one) 30 minutes /30 euros: mediocre massage, you can tell she's new to this. 5/10.
On Saturday 5 PM to 7 PM.
Romanian 22 years old: 30 minutes /50 euros, CBJ, GV, HJ. : She was utmost disappointed That I didn't pay the premium and that I'm "missing out alot". Even thought it was my first session of the day, It took us a 25 minutes with ending it by a HJ due to her deadfish behavior. 3/10.
Romanian 24 years old: 30 minutes DFK, OWO, GV, DATY (but didn't). 100 euro. Will definitely have another session with her once I'm back again service was 10/10.
Some ISG'ers mentioned the food was bad but it fine to me.
All in all, there was a good pool of attractive girls but not as many as pre-covid. Also as others have mentioned, Its pretty hard to find 30/50 rooms with good service.
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FFP2 sold by Sharks for 1 €. What is GV? From salmon for breakfast to cakes, fruits, pastas, rice and puree, as we told with a French on last Saturday, better restaurant than casting, cheap 65 € visit when no desire to spend for a room after finishing at 5 am in Rhur.
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2679186]As others have mentioned, Once you show your proof of vaccination while warning a FFP2 mask (can be bought from pharmacies / grocery store for 1 euro). You can throw away your mask and act as if covid pandamic doesn't exist.
Friday 5 PM to 11 PM.
Romanain 22 years old: 1 hour /150 euro, 2 pops, DFK, OWO, DATY, GV. : she went all out, you could really tell she's trying to please and even wanted to stay a bit for " pillow talk" afterwards 10/10.
Romanian 18 years old: 30 minutes /100 euro, DFK, OWO, DATY, GV. : I was able to do everything but she was trying rush things a bit. Still it was a good session she was hot AF. 7/10.
Romanian 34 years old: 30 minutes /50 euro CBJ, HJ. : I didn't want to pop a 4th time but I was bored and wanted the try the 50 euro/30 minutes post covid service. God damn she was pissed for not paying her a 100. Even the fucking next day she complained how I paid her only 50 euros for CBJ / HJ. She Kept on nagging me every possible encounter while (sitting / eating / walking around the bar). Its amazing how she can feel that entitled for someone of her age 1/10..[/QUOTE]I don't suppose you can remember any names?
It helps and is of interest to me as I will be in the tank next week.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2678970]Addicts pay 150/60 because they've been craving for prostitutes during all the lockdowns.
I laughed a lot when I read on a French forum that a guy payed 100/60 for Olivia the German girl when for my second visit, I payed the same price for one hour and a half.[/QUOTE]You must be one of the addicts considering that you have made over 2000 posts on this site and obviously read other sites about mongering in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2679186]As others have mentioned, Once you show your proof of vaccination while warning a FFP2 mask (can be bought from pharmacies / grocery store for 1 euro). You can throw away your mask and act as if covid pandamic doesn't exist.
Friday 5 PM to 11 PM.
Romanain 22 years old: ...
Romanian 18 years old: ...
Romanian 34 years old: 30 minutes /50 euro CBJ, HJ. : ...
On Saturday 5 PM to 7 PM.
Romanian 22 years old: ..
Romanian 24 years old: ...
All in all, there was a good pool of attractive girls but not as many as pre-covid. Also as others have mentioned, Its pretty hard to find 30/50 rooms with good service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report But why you didn't mention names? Especially the girls you rate 10/10 ?
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The last time I was at Sharks pre-covid and I would offer EUR50 for 1/2 hour the usual upsell was EUR100 for 1 hour. However, inflation has struck worldwide and I suppose you cannot begrudge the girls the extra euros. However, from what I'm reading a 3 month trip to Germany will be an expensive affair. I may have to rethink my plans.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2679373]The last time I was at Sharks pre-covid and I would offer EUR50 for 1/2 hour the usual upsell was EUR100 for 1 hour. However, inflation has struck worldwide and I suppose you cannot begrudge the girls the extra euros. However, from what I'm reading a 3 month trip to Germany will be an expensive affair. I may have to rethink my plans.[/QUOTE]Seems that Switzerland is a better deal than Germany post-covid. And I'm not speaking in absolutes here, only comparatively. Obviously Germany is cheaper, but die Schweiz is getting more and more tempting. Look at some of those einstrittskarte deals out there, at Cleo and Freubald. Some places are offering free admission, gratis, and some are doing package deals entrance + wellness + one HH appt for around 130 franks. Whoever is running Sharks had better wake up and take notice of the competition around them.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2679388]Seems that Switzerland is a better deal than Germany post-covid. And I'm not speaking in absolutes here, only comparatively. Obviously Germany is cheaper, but die Schweiz is getting more and more tempting. Look at some of those einstrittskarte deals out there, at Cleo and Freubald. Some places are offering free admission, gratis, and some are doing package deals entrance + wellness + one HH appt for around 130 franks. Whoever is running Sharks had better wake up and take notice of the competition around them.[/QUOTE]Sharks was best club I visited on 2021 for around 15 visits and 20 hours with only 2 girls, better than Globe or Wellcum, unfortunately not on same level on beginning of 2022, but I will prefer to drive around 1000 kms to Rhur rather than 300 to now second choice porn Globe.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2679461]Sharks was best club I visited on 2021 for around 15 visits and 20 hours with only 2 girls, better than Globe or Wellcum, unfortunately not on same level on beginning of 2022, but I will prefer to drive around 1000 kms to Rhur rather than 300 to now second choice porn Globe.[/QUOTE]Rather than cutting and make no more meaning, better you delete when I waste my time.
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Sharks Anew
2 visits to Sharks last week, first since Covid. So glad to return to Paradise. I think a lot of frequent posters are jaded. Really, it is so good to be able to do this legally, to be in a room where so many nude women really want you to choose them, and will pretty much do as you want.
I wouldn't say there a lot of 9's or 10's around, but just below that level were enough for me. There is too much clothing though. I prefer totally nude, I love to see the line of the body, from neck to legs. Sadly many corsets, bras, and a new style, fabric streched here and there, not covering anything, but kind of randomly applied. Probably thought of as sexy, but for me just an obstruction to a good view.
As I am a lover of blowjobs, I negotiate for half hour of BBBJ for 50€. Though there was resistance, I always got the deal.
My best were:
Aleksa, Rom 20 yo.
Though she covered her not flat belly with clothing, her face is very young and pretty. She's got nice eyes and a kind of ski jump nose like Caprice. She gives a GREAT blowjob. Lots of variation, no teeth, eye contact almost the whole time. I did 3 sessions with her over two days.
Natalia Rom (Moldavia?) early 20's.
Slim not skinny, small breasts with nice erect nipples. Just my type. Again nice blowjob, a bit more teethy, but ending in an enthusiastic (at my request) licking the spunk off my cock, and sucking some more.
Really, it is so nice to be able to just ask a pretty girl to suck your cock, and watching, feeling it, and enjoying it. I can't help but feel fortunate, and feel sorry for the millions of suckers in the world who watch porn and fantasize about the experiences we have, really for very little money.
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April 25 is Orthodox Easter in Romania.
I guess many girls will leave Germany, But what is the period which they are in Holiday? 1 week? 1 month?
I'm planning my next trip, my favourite girl told me she will not be there in May and she don't know when to return!
i dont want to know exact day , but from previous years ... when will girls return from Easter holiday ?
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Visit last Saturday
Finally revisited Sharks since 2018.
Entered the club around 16:30. Lounge filled with 30-40 girls. A girl with a somewhat familiar face caught me.
'Have I seen you before?' she said.
'Yeah, I think so. ' I replied.
'My name is Emma'.
'I think I've been with an Emma before.'
It was fun to meet a familiar face after four years, who claimed to remember me. If it's 100 e /1 h, I'the probably go with her again, but not for the new pricing of 150 e /1 h as I couldn't remember anything from the previous encounter. Caught by another dark-haired skinny RO girl with big glasses (don't remember her name) who also recognized me. With many other hotties in sight, I hold on to my 150 e.
Later found a new girl which really attracted me. Nico (or Nicole), a dark-haired RO 22 yo, has a very refreshing look with decent bees and not a bit of extra weight. We were vibing so decided to have her before negotiation. Her kiss wasn't really DFK though, and not very responsive for DATY or sex (or maybe I've lost my touch). One pop, 150 e /1 h (more like 40 min). Wouldn't repeat. 5/10.
More girls started to show up after 20:00. Most of them were doable, but not worth the 150 e /1 h price tag for me.
Around 21:00, I found two girls that really floated my boat. First one is a RO that looked just like Missandei from Game of Thrones. Pulled her in for a chat. She has a very exotic name so I can't remember (starts with 'M' She spent no time for small talks and proposed a rigid 100 e /30 min or 200 e /1 h rate. I declined, and her face dropped. Major red flag. She returned to me after 5 minutes and revised her rate to 150 e /1 h, but I was already turned off by her.
Second girl Roxanne (RO, 28 yo, natural b's) is a platinum blond with pretty eyes. She's five months in the job and provides service at 50 e /30 min or 100 e /1 h rate (it still exists on an Asian guy! She would only CBJ, and 'kiss with a little tongue' as she said. Agreed on 1 h room but ended up spending 1.5 h for a second pop. She was pleasant but the sex wasn't mind-blowing. Wouldn't repeat. 6/10.
Just when I was ready to leave, I saw Mirela at the bar, an old acquaintance at who gave mind-blowing BBBJ. I asked her for a 1 h reunion. Very satisfied despite the new rate. Definitely will repeat if I see her again. 9/10.
Overall, pretty decent lineup and good vibes. The lounge was packed at 23:00 with a lot of actions. Would return when I have a chance.
Heading to Stuttgart the next day to meet 'Eria' (ex. Paradise) after six years.
P.S. I must say, with the new price tag, I am much more selective for the girls I room with, so personally it's not all bad for me. Otherwise I might still end up wasting more money than I should.
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FKK Sharks did not disappoint!
I visited Sharks back in Feb 2020 just before the covid shutdown. This was my second FKK club. I enjoyed it and Oase equally although I enjoyed the layout of Sharks much better.
My intentions were to come on Sunday and take advantage of the 50 euro entry fee, but I was struggling from a hangover in Kaiserslautern (K-Town) and couldn't make the trip until the following day. The FKK there (Club Tantra) in Kaiserslautern was closed due to Covid. Each sector / county in Germany has different laws with respect to Covid restrictions.
I arrived at Sharks just before 1300. Paid the €65 entry fee, got my bracelet and towel, and was well on my way. It was good to be back.
Showered and put on my robe and headed straight for the buffet for fuel.
The selection of ladies there increased throughout the day. I must say that there was a great selection from which to choose, so whatever your flavor, you will find it there. I was impressed and Sharks did not disappoint.
13:30.
Started the first session (of 4) with Mya from Romania. I'm partial to Romanians. They are the Colombianas of Europe as far as I see them. Very sensual and really enjoy sex. I agreed to an hour, DATY, OWO (oral without condom aka BBBJ) and kissing for €150. I made the rookie mistake of not agreeing to multiple shots upfront. So kudos, she got me on that one. After the first session, I, typically, only go 30 minutes anyway.
Enjoyed a good double-shot of scotch while relaxing in the upstairs hot tub. The atmosphere in Sharks is top-notch.
Periodically a few ladies would wander upstairs, but later in the day more ladies made their rounds up top.
15:00.
While at the bar there was a shy little thing with curly hair. Not as gorgeous as her competition, but her smile was very inviting. Agreed to a 30-minute session with Lolita from Romania for €100. She was very responsive and very tender. This was the best GFE I had experienced in Europe since my session in 2020 with a lovely lady from Moldova in FKK Oase. In fact, she reminded me of her. Average looking, pleasant features and quality service. This is actually how I choose them. The beautiful ones are great to look at and flirt with at the bar, but most are disappointing based on their pre-talk promises and feigned interest. My session with Lolita was very satisfying.
16:00.
While at the bar I locked eyes with Helen, the lovely lady from Nigeria. After getting my drink I sat on the couch and watched a Snooker tournament on television. We chatted quite a bit. She was very engaging and pleasant. I explained that my batteries were recharging, but that I would love a session with her later. She agreed to my terms and a 30-minute session for €100. I know that the locals get 30-minutes for €50, but after you add in DATY, OWO and kissing it is €100 so I just go with this price upfront.
The food was removed around 1500 and didn't return until 1700 or a little after that. The food selection was nice and there were decent spices (E. G. Tabasco) available. No complaints there from me.
17:30.
Was looking for Helen downstairs but didn't see her. Met two lovely blondes from Italy, one brunette from Bulgaria and another lady from Hungary. So there was a wide variety showing up. I got beer and went back upstairs to enjoy the other jacuzzi and there was Helen resting in one of the bungalows. She invited me over to rest with her. This was nice, as I was still digesting my meal. After a nice nap, I told her I was ready for our session. We went into one of the rooms near the jacuzzi. There were two. Neither had a door, just a curtain. I didn't feel like going back downstairs, so we went for it. It was a fantastic session. We even had a couple walk in on us. We all laughed. Helen is a tigress in bed and loves sex. She told me that she was a squirter, but I had forgotten about that until she reminded me by hitting the back of my throat during 69. That was a shocker! LOL. We fucked in about 3 or 4 positions, finally finishing up in doggy. Those sheets were well-soaked. What a great session!
19:00.
While relaxing upstairs in the jacuzzi up walks this gorgeous lady with short hair. She was waving and smiling as she approached as though she knew me. I'm flipping through my mental Rolodex and can't recall the face. She was like a goddess. Her name was Shiva. She explained that Helen was her friend and had been telling her about me downstairs. Shiva was born in Germany but both parents are from Iran. I was planning on leaving around 20:00 and only having 3 sessions. After meeting her I decided to stay until 22:00. I told her that I wanted a 30-minute session with all of the particulars. She wanted to be sure that I was fully charged, so we agreed to meet up in an hour or so. This Persian princess did not disappoint. We went to an upstairs room (other side of the floor from the jacuzzis. Separate staircase) that had mirrors on 3 walls as well as the ceiling. And I'm not talking small mirror squares joined together on the ceiling, but 2 gigantic ceiling-mounted mirrors! This is now my favorite room and I will always try to get it whenever I return. 2nd or 3rd room on the left. Shiva was amazing in bed. She and Helen both pride themselves on loving sex and these ladies were fantastic at their craft. We went the full 30-minutes as I was full of energy and had no more shots left. We were both exhausted. It was too late for me to drive to Amsterdam, so I just booked a hotel room in Frankfurt.
What a time I had at Sharks! Now my favorite FKK.
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[QUOTE=Caramello777;2680401]What a time I had at Sharks! Now my favorite FKK.[/QUOTE]Great report! I went to five clubs this week and Sharks is also definitely my favourite!
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2680505]Great report! I went to five clubs this week and Sharks is also definitely my favourite![/QUOTE]I must admit last night was relatively quite considering it was a Wednesday, plenty of space to sit and contemplate the ladies.
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How easy to BBFS?
I'll be in Germany from April 3rd to April 13th.
How easy is it to get BBFS or even anal at FKK Shark?
Seems like there's a lot of scam Or upselling.
I get good results at home in California with sugar babies and escorts so my level of "what's good" is pretty high so I hope Germany doesn't disappoint.
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Monday daytime visit
Visited Sharks during the daytime on Monday. It was warm and sunny outside, and a great day to sunbathe. Also enjoyed the empty hot tubs and had the sauna to myself as well. Not many good options for ladies though. In the end, I only had one room and it was with a girl named Tamara. Spinner body, but with big fake boobs. Kind of makes her look top heavy. The session was more PSE than GFE, but it was okay.
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[QUOTE=ThickD;2680835]I'll be in Germany from April 3rd to April 13th.
How easy is it to get BBFS or even anal at FKK Shark?
Seems like there's a lot of scam Or upselling.
I get good results at home in California with sugar babies and escorts so my level of "what's good" is pretty high so I hope Germany doesn't disappoint.[/QUOTE]It's against German Law to do BBFS.
She can report you to front desk mgmt and immediately call Polize to have you arrested.
German Polize can apply force and they don't have to read you your rights. They are protected by judges and Courts.
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[QUOTE=PhuckBiden;2680981]It's against German Law to do BBFS.
She can report you to front desk mgmt and immediately call Polize to have you arrested.
German Polize can apply force and they don't have to read you your rights. They are protected by judges and Courts.[/QUOTE]What about Dietzenbach 10 mn from Sharks? Don't polizei know this address? Except for registration, new law is just a joke. To get forgotten gummi, no need to go to low level RTC. Can work when you found girl button and she won't call polizei when girls usually don't ask extra money.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2680844]Visited Sharks during the daytime on Monday. It was warm and sunny outside, and a great day to sunbathe. Also enjoyed the empty hot tubs and had the sauna to myself as well. Not many good options for ladies though. In the end, I only had one room and it was with a girl named Tamara. Spinner body, but with big fake boobs. Kind of makes her look top heavy. The session was more PSE than GFE, but it was okay.[/QUOTE]On 2015/2016, Monday was a good day at Sharks, but not sure now. Monday, Tuesday and Thursday are quite slow days with not full casting. Even on Saturday evening on beginning of the month, not so crowded to go to room, when many prefer to drink than fuck.
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[QUOTE=PhuckBiden;2680981]It's against German Law to do BBFS.
She can report you to front desk mgmt and immediately call Polize ......[/QUOTE]For asking for BBFS? You do know that if she complies she's complicit and would be arrested too.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2681432]For asking for BBFS? You do know that if she complies she's complicit and would be arrested too.[/QUOTE]Polizei fully don t care about AO, I m quite sure they don t know about new law and care so few about Romanian WGs.
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New corona rules After April 2
Is there anyone visit Sharks today could update the newest covid restrictions after April 2. Does the 2 G plus still apply in Sharks?
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[QUOTE=ThickD;2680835]I'll be in Germany from April 3rd to April 13th.
How easy is it to get BBFS or even anal at FKK Shark?
Seems like there's a lot of scam Or upselling.
I get good results at home in California with sugar babies and escorts so my level of "what's good" is pretty high so I hope Germany doesn't disappoint.[/QUOTE]I've never had a problem at ANY FKK getting anal. But it's always been covered, and that's OK with me. As to BBFS, I wouldn't trust anyone that brags about it.
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Anal
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2681597]I've never had a problem at ANY FKK getting anal. But it's always been covered, and that's OK with me. As to BBFS, I wouldn't trust anyone that brags about it.[/QUOTE]I found it much harder to get anal in the NRW region versus other parts of Germany.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2681626]I found it much harder to get anal in the NRW region versus other parts of Germany.[/QUOTE]I was proposed by my Rhur DE among all Audi options for 60. When I asked her: are you sure? She answered: I should manage pain with your size when she didn't see hard yet, so I answered: it's not possible for me if she has pain, when she is a sex machine, but when we now foreplay and I rub on her hole, pressing on, she doesn't propose me anymore when she now felt hard in her vagina, and I much prefer her really impressive shower in bed, even in face on last night and despite many sheets but bed was so wet, and no extra asked, quite normal when I make the job to get shower.
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2 G plus
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2681485]Is there anyone visit Sharks today could update the newest covid restrictions after April 2. Does the 2 G plus still apply in Sharks?[/QUOTE]Because frequent posters seldom or never visit Sharks recently, so let me answer the question. According to website, it is still 2 G plus.
Nothing change after April 2.
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[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2681485]Is there anyone visit Sharks today could update the newest covid restrictions after April 2. Does the 2 G plus still apply in Sharks?[/QUOTE]No more pass asked in NRW clubs I prefer for higher level on beginning of this year.
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I can't remember.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2681626]I found it much harder to get anal in the NRW region versus other parts of Germany.[/QUOTE]First, I really don't have the full range of all the NRW. I've been to just under a dozen FKKs across Germany, so I should have said. "In the FKKs I've visited. " And secondly, I think with my the**k; I. E. Even if it takes me a while to find anal, the next day I only remember I found it. So Cane you may be correct. I'd love to say, "I'll start to pay more attention" but honestly I won't. If I hit the jackpot, I'll only remember being successful.
The one funny (or clever) thing that I always remember was the 2nd night of a trip to Berlin. This German lady reached under the towel and said OH your snake is much too big. A real python. Now "we all know" that this plays to one's ego. On one hand, you want to say COME ON NOW, it's not that big. On the other hand you think. OH YEAH I"M A BIG GUY. I understand.
I'll be in NRW in May I think so I'll test the theory. Samya was small. There were only a handful of girls when I was there right before lock down but I found 2.
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[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2681862]Because frequent posters seldom or never visit Sharks recently, so let me answer the question. According to website, it is still 2 G plus.
Nothing change after April 2.[/QUOTE]To be clear, besides Sirioja, some of the busiest posters haven't even been to Germany in 2 or 3 years, so your assessment also applies to Oase, Palace, Artemis, Oceans, Prime, etc.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2679287]I don't suppose you can remember any names?
It helps and is of interest to me as I will be in the tank next week.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I was way too high to remember any of their names.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2681889]To be clear, besides Sirioja, some of the busiest posters haven't even been to Germany in 2 or 3 years, so your assessment also applies to Oase, Palace, Artemis, Oceans, Prime, etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, many here write without visiting, when at least I visit. On 2021 Summer, Sharks was best club for me and I visited weekly. Unfortunately, not on same level on beginning of this year, so only 2 visits at Sharks and 1 at Oase for only 30 mn spent in room in 3 visits, when 6 and Rhur are now much more interesting for me, when free bird is not stuck anywhere. Also no Globe visit when too expensive for porn quality. Free bird looking for women images and manners, I miss my too rare 40 yo one but I m happy for her if she enjoy her little princess. I don t know for Hessen, but since yesterday, no more pass asked in NRW. Only money say desk.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2681626]I found it much harder to get anal in the NRW region versus other parts of Germany.[/QUOTE]What's NRW region? I need to go to the opposite then.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2682003]Yes, many here write without visiting, when at least I visit. On 2021 Summer, Sharks was best club for me and I visited weekly. Unfortunately, not on same level on beginning of this year, so only 2 visits at Sharks and 1 at Oase for only 30 mn spent in room in 3 visits, when 6 and Rhur are now much more interesting for me, when free bird is not stuck anywhere. Also no Globe visit when too expensive for porn quality. Free bird looking for women images and manners, I miss my too rare 40 yo one but I m happy for her if she enjoy her little princess. I don t know for Hessen, but since yesterday, no more pass asked in NRW. Only money say desk.[/QUOTE]Personally I have just gone to Austria instead the last 2-3 years. Which is basically the same thing. Even with some of the same girls switching back and forth.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2682208]Personally I have just gone to Austria instead the last 2-3 years. Which is basically the same thing. Even with some of the same girls switching back and forth.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is down for girls GFE quality, except Lea. Bu but not wow beauty. Small Maya LR now at GT Vienna is not good sign for level when was high GFE level on 2020. After ski tour when I have only week ends for this, I will try Atlantis close to Kitzbühel. I wish Sharks will improve with some 2021 girls back.
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Nrw
North Rhine Westphalia.
State in Germany where quite a few good FKKs are located.
[QUOTE=ThickD;2682004]What's NRW region? I need to go to the opposite then.[/QUOTE]
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Weekend Report in Frankfurt with a friend
Friday night we arrived at 10 PM at Sharks (for your information we've been there a few times and first time this year), the entry price is 65€, we had to show our covid passport.
The place was not crowded for a Friday night, I should say 60 girls and maybe a bit more clients.
The first thing which stroke us was the girls who were extremely pushy, that was really not something we are used to (pushy yes but not like that) and the problem with the sharks is that you have no where to relax but in the canteen which is far from being a nice place to relax.
The first floor is finally done after months of works and it is a really nice place but even there the girls are relentlessly coming back which is quite annoying. Saying no for some is not an answer.
So we had dinner first, the food was better than expected and after we made a first tour around the club which was as I said quite annoying.
My friend went with a Moldavian girl called Natacha who was good according to him (not my type anyway) and I had a German girl called Lara, tall blond girl with a beautiful tattoo on her back. She is really nice and I had a good time with her, I recommend. For the record, I recommended it to a nice guy from Toronto I talked to at the bar. He definitely enjoyed it too.
We waited before having the second girl and to be honest we had trouble to find a second one, my friend went with Elea a greek girl who loves sex and is a really nice person, that was a good choice for him. I was by my own and tried to find one but really I couldn't find a real option so I went with Melani, a Romanian girl with black hair and sexy glasses, I was with her last time I was at Shark, I should say it was the safest choice, She is nice, friendly and I had a good time.
We left Sharks at 3 AM.
Conclusion: the lineup was a bit disappointing, many girls but no real wow and not a friendly atmosphere so I should say we had a good time with the ladies we chose which is important but the sharks experience was not there. We took each time half an hour for 100€, with Melani I was more likely to be on an hour but the price was still 100€. For those who like Shiva, she was not there this night. I really like Sharks but this time was not good.
Next day we went to Oase. I'll put a report in the Oase topic and give you my final call between the two places (spoiler. Oase is by far the best choice for us).
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[QUOTE=LuisSmith;2682483]The first thing which stroke us was the girls who were extremely pushy, that was really not something we are used to (pushy yes but not like that) and the problem with the sharks is that you have no where to relax but in the canteen which is far from being a nice place to relax.[/QUOTE]I also noticed the girls are more pushy now, Sharks or elsewhere. Saying 'You're not my type' used to be a valid answer, but these days they seem eager to get to the bottom of it. I even have girls, whom I haven't looked at earlier when I was waiting for my appointment. When I told her I was waiting for someone else 6 minutes later.
'Why did you waste my time?
Seems these days the only right answers for a lack of interest is either 'I just had a room' or 'I'm waiting for someone else' at the very start.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2682323]Wellcum is down for girls GFE quality, except Lea. Bu but not wow beauty. Small Maya LR now at GT Vienna is not good sign for level when was high GFE level on 2020. After ski tour when I have only week ends for this, I will try Atlantis close to Kitzbhel. I wish Sharks will improve with some 2021 girls back.[/QUOTE]Lineup constantly changing there, so its really hard to keep track. And you have been with far fewer girls than me there, so I don't buy your assessment. Yes Leah is really fantastic. But some othergirls who has been there have also been up there from time to time. Like from the current list Crina (ex Marina), Emma, Nadine, Olga, Ramona, and I just now saw firecracker Tina is back as well. And a third of the list is new names to me. Maybe 40%.
And then there is also Goldentime Vienna and Goldentime Linz.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2682501]Lineup constantly changing there, so its really hard to keep track. And you have been with far fewer girls than me there, so I don't buy your assessment. Yes Leah is really fantastic. But some othergirls who has been there have also been up there from time to time. Like from the current list Crina (ex Marina), Emma, Nadine, Olga, Ramona, and I just now saw firecracker Tina is back as well. And a third of the list is new names to me. Maybe 40%.
And then there is also Goldentime Vienna and Goldentime Linz.[/QUOTE]Difficult for me to find attractive natural looks at Wellcum when I m allergic to plastic and Olga may be Russian, but really not pretty. Lea. Bu was lovely, true GFE but not pretty enough to repeat. For me, Wellcum and Globe are now on second ranking for girls quality. My deep Rhur is far higher level for me, taking showers in bed now extending for 1h30. At least, I learned something about sex in brothels.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2682490]I also noticed the girls are more pushy now, Sharks or elsewhere. Saying 'You're not my type' used to be a valid answer, but these days they seem eager to get to the bottom of it. I even have girls, whom I haven't looked at earlier when I was waiting for my appointment. When I told her I was waiting for someone else 6 minutes later.
'Why did you waste my time?
Seems these days the only right answers for a lack of interest is either 'I just had a room' or 'I'm waiting for someone else' at the very start.[/QUOTE]Best answer is: I don't have money, like many Germans come only for restaurant and sauna.
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[QUOTE=LuisSmith;2682483]Friday night we arrived at 10 PM at Sharks (for your information we've been there a few times and first time this year), the entry price is 65, we had to show our covid passport.
The place was not crowded for a Friday night, I should say 60 girls and maybe a bit more clients.
The first thing which stroke us was the girls who were extremely pushy, that was really not something we are used to (pushy yes but not like that) and the problem with the sharks is that you have no where to relax but in the canteen which is far from being a nice place to relax.
The first floor is finally done after months of works and it is a really nice place but even there the girls are relentlessly coming back which is quite annoying. Saying no for some is not an answer.
So we had dinner first, the food was better than expected and after we made a first tour around the club which was as I said quite annoying.
My friend went with a Moldavian girl called Natacha who was good according to him (not my type anyway) and I had a German girl called Lara, tall blond girl with a beautiful tattoo on her back. She is really nice and I had a good time with her, I recommend. For the record, I recommended it to a nice guy from Toronto I talked to at the bar. He definitely enjoyed it too.[/QUOTE]Pity, when Sharks was so good from July to November 2021. Some girls are now moving to other clubs. I saw Iranian Shiva ex Oase on my 2 visits, maybe she will return to Oase if better business than at Sharks now.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2682490]I also noticed the girls are more pushy now, Sharks or elsewhere. Saying 'You're not my type' used to be a valid answer, but these days they seem eager to get to the bottom of it. I even have girls, whom I haven't looked at earlier when I was waiting for my appointment. When I told her I was waiting for someone else 6 minutes later.
'Why did you waste my time?
Seems these days the only right answers for a lack of interest is either 'I just had a room' or 'I'm waiting for someone else' at the very start.[/QUOTE]Next time, try some simple German instead. Ich habe keine Lust generally works. It means I don't feel like it. You can google it for pronunciation and just memorize it. Another good one is Ich bin fix und fertig which means I am totally spent, done, wiped out.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2682553]Next time, try some simple German instead. Ich habe keine Lust generally works. It means I don't feel like it. You can google it for pronunciation and just memorize it. Another good one is Ich bin fix und fertig which means I am totally spent, done, wiped out.[/QUOTE]I suppose saying those in English wouldn't work as well?
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2682553]Next time, try some simple German instead. Ich habe keine Lust generally works. It means I don't feel like it. You can google it for pronunciation and just memorize it. Another good one is Ich bin fix und fertig which means I am totally spent, done, wiped out.[/QUOTE]I am out of money also works.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2682573]I am out of money also works.[/QUOTE]You will get the classic response from petulant providers: "Why are you here?" "Why don't you go home?"
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2682611]You will get the classic response from petulant providers: "Why are you here?" "Why don't you go home?"[/QUOTE]Or maybe you can just roll with the Siri classic, Sorry I'm just here for the breakfast Salmon LOL.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2682558]I suppose saying those in English wouldn't work as well?[/QUOTE]Most of girls understand English and will understand very well: no money.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2682617]Or maybe you can just roll with the Siri classic, Sorry I'm just here for the breakfast Salmon LOL.[/QUOTE]So often I speed, I would be put in jail in Switzerland, to be on time for salmon, so drinking more gas speeding, I spend all my money for gas and entry for salmon and have no more money for not elegant natural beauties who are not natural GFE. I have money only to dream when I have no problem to leave a brothel full heavy balls, my ability to control.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2682611]You will get the classic response from petulant providers: "Why are you here?" "Why don't you go home?"[/QUOTE]Honesty is the best policy. "I don't fancy you." "You're too fat / ugly / old." "I can't stand fake tits." "I don't like tattoos." "I wouldn't shag you even if it were free."
Okay, maybe some of those are a bit harsh.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2682827]Honesty is the best policy. "I don't fancy you." "You're too fat / ugly / old." "I can't stand fake tits." "I don't like tattoos." "I wouldn't shag you even if it were free."
Okay, maybe some of those are a bit harsh.[/QUOTE]Some girls prefer white lies over brutal honesty.
And I'll definitely love to be there when a honest guy deliver those unreserved truths to unworthy girls.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2682930]Some girls prefer white lies over brutal honesty.
And I'll definitely love to be there when a honest guy deliver those unreserved truths to unworthy girls.[/QUOTE]Even I'm often not attracted by most girls coming to me when I m able not to find any attractive at Sharks or Globe or Bruggen before burning, but as I think these girls make very hard job, I would never say: I m not attracted because I don t find You pretty, when I experienced how my words and I never told this, or my writings here, did hurt some girls, at LR, even my regular at Bruggen, or a girl coming to me as soon I entered Sharks few weeks ago. I can only advice her not to read forums which are not for girls. Our words told or written can really hurt girls, at least mine, when not my aim.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2682930]Some girls prefer white lies over brutal honesty.
And I'll definitely love to be there when a honest guy deliver those unreserved truths to unworthy girls.[/QUOTE]I've delivered a few of them before when aggressive girls wouldn't stop harassing me. One of them once angrily replied "I'm not attracted to you either and don't want to go to the room with you!" And I said, "Awesome, leave me alone then!
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2682827]Honesty is the best policy. "I don't fancy you." "You're too fat / ugly / old." "I can't stand fake tits." "I don't like tattoos." "I wouldn't shag you even if it were free."
Okay, maybe some of those are a bit harsh.[/QUOTE]If she does her initial approach a bit off, and ask you a bit quickly to just go to the room with her, doing the 'how much do you pay', or the 'ok, you only need to pay me 10 euro' comments are objectivly funny. Even if you are bound to get confused looks in return.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2682549]Difficult for me to find attractive natural looks at Wellcum when I m allergic to plastic and Olga may be Russian, but really not pretty. Lea. Bu was lovely, true GFE but not pretty enough to repeat. For me, Wellcum and Globe are now on second ranking for girls quality. My deep Rhur is far higher level for me, taking showers in bed now extending for 1h30. At least, I learned something about sex in brothels.[/QUOTE]What is deep Ruhr? Or where?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2682550]Best answer is: I don't have money, like many Germans come only for restaurant and sauna.[/QUOTE]As already stated, then they'll respond with "why you here, go home" and they'll gladly stare at you as you take 2-3 other women to the room, then bug you again as you return to the bar or sofa from the room. They also recognize familiar faces from routine customers. They know youre not a pensioner who sits on the front couches for the eye candy but doesnt want anyone.
Best answer is: there is no best answer.
They've heard all the excuses, so no matter what excuse you have, just be ready for the inevitable attitude / harassment before they finally give up and bother someone else.
I give them a polite answer: “maybe later” because if I give them a real answer like “hell no” they look like they want to slap you or make a scene because they cant find a customer.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2682827]Honesty is the best policy. "I don't fancy you." "You're too fat / ugly / old." "I can't stand fake tits." "I don't like tattoos." "I wouldn't shag you even if it were free."
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Treat those how you would want to be treated.
What if the woman rejected you with rudeness? “You're too fat, bald, ugly, old, short, broke.”
Some A-team women wont sleep with everyone, even if they're being paid. I’m sure every man here prefers a polite decline over an insult.
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Agree
Plus one. Treat them the way you want to be treated.
Well said.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2683318]As already stated, then they'll respond with "why you here, go home" and they'll gladly stare at you as you take 2-3 other women to the room, then bug you again as you return to the bar or sofa from the room. They also recognize familiar faces from routine customers. They know youre not a pensioner who sits on the front couches for the eye candy but doesnt want anyone.
Best answer is: there is no best answer.
They've heard all the excuses, so no matter what excuse you have, just be ready for the inevitable attitude / harassment before they finally give up and bother someone else.
I give them a polite answer: maybe later because if I give them a real answer like hell no they look like they want to slap you or make a scene because they cant find a customer.
Treat those how you would want to be treated.
What if the woman rejected you with rudeness? You're too fat, bald, ugly, old, short, broke.
Some A-team women wont sleep with everyone, even if they're being paid. Im sure every man here prefers a polite decline over an insult.[/QUOTE]
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Tell them you want an all anal session for the full 30 minutes and you are only offering original rates of 50 euros +25 euros.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2683318]As already stated, then they'll respond with "why you here, go home" and they'll gladly stare at you as you take 2-3 other women to the room, then bug you again as you return to the bar or sofa from the room. They also recognize familiar faces from routine customers. They know youre not a pensioner who sits on the front couches for the eye candy but doesnt want anyone.
Best answer is: there is no best answer.
They've heard all the excuses, so no matter what excuse you have, just be ready for the inevitable attitude / harassment before they finally give up and bother someone else.
I give them a polite answer: maybe later because if I give them a real answer like hell no they look like they want to slap you or make a scene because they cant find a customer..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2683187]What is deep Ruhr? Or where?[/QUOTE]Rhur is around Dusseldorf.
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[QUOTE=Gfefan;2683324]Plus one. Treat them the way you want to be treated.
Well said.[/QUOTE]Some girls just don't take rejections well. One time I declined a girl's invitation to a room with 'You're not really my type. ' which in my opinion is a respectful rejection.
She instantly went off on me and said 'What is your type? Do you like robots? You're not my type either! I don't want to go to the room with you also but I must work!' and walked off. Complete over-reaction IMO. I take no wrong in this exchange. It's all part of the FKK experience.
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"My deep Ruhr"? Is that a spelling mistake?
Should it be "my deep rear"?
Sorry, I just had to make that joke, everyone else here seems to be asleep.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2683318]As already stated, then they'll respond with "why you here, go home" and they'll gladly stare at you as you take 2-3 other women to the room, then bug you again as you return to the bar or sofa from the room. They also recognize familiar faces from routine customers. They know youre not a pensioner who sits on the front couches for the eye candy but doesnt want anyone.
Best answer is: there is no best answer.
They've heard all the excuses, so no matter what excuse you have, just be ready for the inevitable attitude / harassment before they finally give up and bother someone else.
I give them a polite answer: maybe later because if I give them a real answer like hell no they look like they want to slap you or make a scene because they cant find a customer.
Treat those how you would want to be treated.
What if the woman rejected you with rudeness? You're too fat, bald, ugly, old, short, broke.
Some A-team women wont sleep with everyone, even if they're being paid. Im sure every man here prefers a polite decline over an insult.[/QUOTE]They don't say this to Germans who come on Sunday before 2 pm or Wednesday to eat, sauna, meet friends, for 50, but girls know they don't go to room. Same for Balkanians, out of Ramadan, who drink and give more business to club than fucking girls. My meaning was when very difficult job for these girls, when they have to go with uglies to make enough money and quite slow business now at Sharks, when some words can really hurt them, no need to humiliate them throwing them in face. I'm don't have money usually make them not insisting, when some try to sell me: I make good massage, when I don't pay for massage, I make good BJ, when only very few are skillful for BJ and not only at Sharks, and I hate those telling: I want to fuck you, running away for me, all what I hate, when I m much more attracted by elegance. Unfortunately, my 2021 elegant ladyT didn't return. Wish she will.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2683349]"My deep Ruhr"? Is that a spelling mistake?
Should it be "my deep rear"?
Sorry, I just had to make that joke, everyone else here seems to be asleep.[/QUOTE]I would rather say for my big love in bed. As say my always welcoming even full busy superstar DE: let s have love. All what I look for, when one at Sharks was not anymore able, touching her limit on 6th room and I tried again to 12 rooms = 12 hours, when I should have stopped at tenth room, good number and falling level for GFE.
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The Club like all things has positives & negatives. For me I've not encountered too much hassle from the girls and on the rare occasions it's happened it's been easy to deal with.
My experiences at the club are generally positive, if I have any criticism it would be that I've noticed the general cleanliness is not as high as it use to be, maybe staff numbers have been reduced?
Secondly I find the food appalling, regrettably the Asian food which was reasonable has never returned since lockdown.
I'm greatly looking forward to the summer when the club for me really excels with the use of the garden and barbecue.
Can anyone remember when the barbecue season commences?
Obviously it's weather related but my next visit in the second week of May I think maybe too early for the barbecue to start?
It's also a shame Sharks dropped the cinema facilities as the area where it once was hasn't in my opinion added much to the club. A few extra rooms in that area hasn't enhanced the club.
However as I've said apart from a few gripes I find it a decent club and now I see it's opening earlier at 10 am on Fri, Sat & Sun.
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Salmon, yogurts, fruits like melon, pastas and puree are good for me when Sharks barbecue is not good for meats. When you are known as white wolf bad writer, some guys even telling girls about you, then you are not too harassed by girls. Fortunately for me, very few girls who are on my standards usually go with me and as told Joana. De at Globe: now I know you, I will run to you and what she did to repeat on discovery day, when she was a superstar at Globe, or Megan who asked me to start our day together on my weekly visits.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2683318]What if the woman rejected you with rudeness? You're too fat, bald, ugly, old, short, broke.[/QUOTE]Um, I honestly wouldn't care. I'm not a thin-skinned, insecure bellend. The lines I've used have been: "Sorry, I don't like girls covered in tattoos. " "I don't like huge fake boobs." "I'm not interested, you're not my type. Thanks. " I was joking about the others. It's the "not interested" comment I made that got the most heated reply I mentioned earlier. I wouldn't consider what I said rude, but everyone has different interpretations. Plus, the pay for play world is simply business. In my personal life, I would definitely bite my tongue more if it was a girl at a bar or a girl a friend is trying to set me up with. But in business, I think it's best to be straight forward and not faff about, wasting everyone's valuable time.
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Welcome to Talk about Everything except Girls Forum
You are in the Right Place.
We talk about everything except girls working at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2683651]Um, I honestly wouldn't care. I'm not a thin-skinned, insecure bellend. The lines I've used have been: "Sorry, I don't like girls covered in tattoos. " "I don't like huge fake boobs." "I'm not interested, you're not my type. Thanks. " I was joking about the others. It's the "not interested" comment I made that got the most heated reply I mentioned earlier. I wouldn't consider what I said rude, but everyone has different interpretations. Plus, the pay for play world is simply business. In my personal life, I would definitely bite my tongue more if it was a girl at a bar or a girl a friend is trying to set me up with. But in business, I think it's best to be straight forward and not faff about, wasting everyone's valuable time.[/QUOTE]You are 100% right! It's all P4 P business. Plus if enough customers honestly say "Sorry, I don't like girls covered in tattoos. ", "I don't like huge fake boobs. ", "I am not into fucking girls fatter than my wife", maybe other girls will hear / see these and will refrain from getting too many tattoos and / or huge fake boobs or eating too much McDonalds? IMHO, even the best tattoos make people look worse than their no-ink look, some fake boobs can be better look and feel for otherwise flat-chested girls but those huge fakies are hideously disgusting!
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Please tell us more
[QUOTE=ThickD;2680835]I'll be in Germany from April 3rd to April 13th.
How easy is it to get BBFS or even anal at FKK Shark?
Seems like there's a lot of scam Or upselling.
I get good results at home in California with sugar babies and escorts so my level of "what's good" is pretty high so I hope Germany doesn't disappoint.[/QUOTE]Can you give us some more details on how you got good results in CA? Happy to share any info you want to know, experienced traveller.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2683735]You are 100% right! It's all P4 P business. Plus if enough customers honestly say "Sorry, I don't like girls covered in tattoos. ", "I don't like huge fake boobs. ", "I am not into fucking girls fatter than my wife", maybe other girls will hear / see these and will refrain from getting too many tattoos and / or huge fake boobs or eating too much McDonalds? IMHO, even the best tattoos make people look worse than their no-ink look, some fake boobs can be better look and feel for otherwise flat-chested girls but those huge fakies are hideously disgusting![/QUOTE]I honestly cannot be so verbally brutal with the girls. Their bodies are the tools of their trade. To criticize their body is to destroy them mentally. I could never be that harsh. Once I was sleeping outdoors and was awoken by 2 girls who could not be more not my type. They just would not leave me alone. One got quite annoyed when she realized that I would not go with them. She criticized a watch I was wearing saying that I would not get respect wearing such a cheap watch. There were so many things I could have retorted at that point in time but I responded "I do not want your respect". Something tripped her off in that response that she let loose a barrage of words to the extent that I had to get up and leave.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2683719]You are in the Right Place.
We talk about everything except girls working at Sharks.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with the running discussion of rejecting girls working in a club?
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Criticism
[QUOTE=Turgid;2683965]She criticized a watch I was wearing saying that I would not get respect wearing such a cheap watch. There were so many things I could have retorted at that point in time but I responded "I do not want your respect". Something tripped her off in that response that she let loose a barrage of words to the extent that I had to get up and leave.[/QUOTE]That's the tactic used by the "fake Egyptian" who went by "Alexandria" (I think it was) at Palace. Turn her down (I didn't like her face) and she would attack you personally, with your watch being a favorite target. Girls like that need to realize that they are in "sales". If they can't deal with taking "no" for an answer, then they need to get out of sales. Eventually she did. Who knows where she is today. More importantly, who cares?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2683987]That's the tactic used by the "fake Egyptian" who went by "Alexandria" (I think it was) at Palace. Turn her down (I didn't like her face) and she would attack you personally, with your watch being a favorite target. Girls like that need to realize that they are in "sales". If they can't deal with taking "no" for an answer, then they need to get out of sales. Eventually she did. Who knows where she is today. More importantly, who cares?[/QUOTE]Ha! I remember her. She wore a lot of mascara / eye liner. She was at Palace for quite some time, but I also saw her a few times working at Sharks after she left Palace. You're right about her verbal assaults. One time I turned her down because I had just finished going to the room with another girl and I told her I needed an hour or two to relax before my next room. She basically questioned my manhood saying "What kind of man needs so much time between girls?" All you can do is laugh when these girls say ridiculous insults.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2683987]That's the tactic used by the "fake Egyptian" who went by "Alexandria" (I think it was) at Palace. [/QUOTE]By the way, I think her names was actually Angelina or Angelique, but I could be wrong.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2683719]You are in the Right Place.
We talk about everything except girls working at Sharks.[/QUOTE]And where we also talk about not talking about girls at Sharks, without talking about the girls at Sharks ourselves. Even more acute is this new post I am making here, discussing talking about everything at Sharks except talking about the girls working at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2683987]That's the tactic used by the "fake Egyptian" who went by "Alexandria" (I think it was) at Palace. Turn her down (I didn't like her face) and she would attack you personally, with your watch being a favorite target. Girls like that need to realize that they are in "sales". If they can't deal with taking "no" for an answer, then they need to get out of sales. Eventually she did. Who knows where she is today. More importantly, who cares?[/QUOTE]She attacked your watch? She hit my balls 3 or 4 times. Like She knew exactly how to hit them causing maximum pain from tons of experience having done the same thing in the past to dousing or hundreds of other guys. I've been hit in the balls a few other times in ny life, but never have I been hit by a ball-hitting expert at her level. We are talking micrometer precision here, with the right angle and force.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2683965]I honestly cannot be so verbally brutal with the girls. Their bodies are the tools of their trade. To criticize their body is to destroy them mentally. I could never be that harsh. Once I was sleeping outdoors and was awoken by 2 girls who could not be more not my type. They just would not leave me alone. One got quite annoyed when she realized that I would not go with them. She criticized a watch I was wearing saying that I would not get respect wearing such a cheap watch. There were so many things I could have retorted at that point in time but I responded "I do not want your respect". Something tripped her off in that response that she let loose a barrage of words to the extent that I had to get up and leave.[/QUOTE]You are fully right when most of these girls don't exist through their cleverness, but only their image, even some need to hide behind stolen car make up, when they have problem about their image from this job, and you can't imagine how our words, at least mine, can hurt the woman who sleep inside, some who would better not read forums, coming to tell me. This job make many putting silicon, tattoos, piercings, from this business culture, when I m so happy when I find a no silicon, nor tattooed, nor piercing, body, like pornstar Daisy. Bu Diamond with virgin body I got yesterday at Globe where she was the prettiest when really not many attractive among nearly 60 girls and when I couldn't even recognize Swiss Adriana I got on her first day on beginning of July, but pity for new, lost freshness look. Girls look at our watch, ask about job and I don t need to lie when I m proud to make building small part of the world, about car, if we are married and even checking if no mark on fingers, to evaluate us when they don t know us yet. I laugh when they think my watch is high brand when I bought 199 many years ago and it sleep, take shower, swim, fell on ski or from bicycle with me. Same than I plan to buy 2007/2008 V8 4. 2 32 valves with manual gearbox S5 for less than 20000 and will prepare for not far from 450 P.S. Powered with cheap French bioethanol, to aim to reach 300 on legal free speed parts, for around 25000 € for all, when brain help, like manners pay with girls, and wish for over 1 million kilometers with engine I will make unique and nearly on RS5 powerful.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2684170]Ha! I remember her. She wore a lot of mascara / eye liner. She was at Palace for quite some time, but I also saw her a few times working at Sharks after she left Palace. You're right about her verbal assaults. One time I turned her down because I had just finished going to the room with another girl and I told her I needed an hour or two to relax before my next room. She basically questioned my manhood saying "What kind of man needs so much time between girls?" All you can do is laugh when these girls say ridiculous insults.[/QUOTE]The girls who throw insults are usually the ugliest girls in the club. They face rejection continuously and sometimes it gets to them to the extent that they would like to act like Will Smith against Chris Rock. I have been known to bang 6's and 5's but even I have my limits, LOL.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2684235]By the way, I think her names was actually Angelina or Angelique, but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is easily the most obnoxious girl I have come across in FKKs. My first encounter with her was more than 10 years ago at Palace. At that time, her name was Georgina. She then moved to Oase and was there for 2 years as Angelina, before finally moving to Sharks. Despite my constant rejections, she approached me every time without fail. And what frustrated me the most was when for a spell, she sat next to Hanna (the slim tanned one) in Sharks, and blocked me from getting to Hanna every time. Hanna was deprived of a lot of money from me over those few months. Unfortunately, Hanna disappeared before I had a chance to get hold of her again.
I hope Angelina is no longer around. Must be really old and ugly by now.
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Then
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2684676]I hope Angelina is no longer around. Must be really old and ugly by now.[/QUOTE]Well, she was ugly then, both inside and out LOL!
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2684268]She attacked your watch? She hit my balls 3 or 4 times. Like She knew exactly how to hit them causing maximum pain from tons of experience having done the same thing in the past to dousing or hundreds of other guys. I've been hit in the balls a few other times in ny life, but never have I been hit by a ball-hitting expert at her level. We are talking micrometer precision here, with the right angle and force.[/QUOTE]That really made me laugh.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2684350]The girls who throw insults are usually the ugliest girls in the club. They face rejection continuously and sometimes it gets to them to the extent that they would like to act like Will Smith against Chris Rock. I have been known to bang 6's and 5's but even I have my limits, LOL.[/QUOTE]Some busy superstar can also when you stop to go with them and they turn mad, even many others and I m sure better guys are waiting for her, when you lost desire for her new image not anymore higher level than average. I'm sure she was not so mad about any other guy.
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Best days for Sharks and Oase
Hi,
Which days are best for Sharks and Oase from Thursday to Sunday in 2022. Opinions from the seasoned experts would be greatly appreciated.
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Malika
Earlier in March I went to Sharks for the first time in more than two years. Nice to be back and watch the nude girls strolling around. A lot of new faces, some I probably had seen before and a few (to me) familiar faces. The mood was as before with all the same questions "Wie geht's", How are you", "Were are you from", "Want to go to the room". Followed by all the same answers from me as before. After a while I noticed a pretty, tall girl sitting at the bar at the end towards the stairs. Natural boobs, no tattoos, brown shoulder length hair. I decided to give it a try and I stopped her when she did a tour around the bar. She introduced herself as Malika. I had to look up at her when I talked with her and I am normal height. I asked for 30 min and she said 100 E. OK, then. What's included? She said full package and then off to the room. She kept her full package-promise. No upselling in the room. Started with kissing. She was OK with it, but I have had deeper and more intense DFK before. Blowjob and licking very nice. Finished off in missionary with some additional kissing. A nice girl and good service for being to first time I met her.
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[QUOTE=BtRubbish;2685310]Hi,
Which days are best for Sharks and Oase from Thursday to Sunday in 2022. Opinions from the seasoned experts would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]For Sharks, best casting days are Friday and Saturday.
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[QUOTE=BtRubbish;2685310]Hi,
Which days are best for Sharks and Oase from Thursday to Sunday in 2022. Opinions from the seasoned experts would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]My plan is to visit Aca Gold on Saturday and Sharks on Sunday, late in May this year. So we will see the results.
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Thursday and Friday: Sharks, Oase is empty.
Saturday and Sunday: Oase, Sharks is too crowded.
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[QUOTE=Mechelen;2685600]Thursday and Friday: Sharks, Oase is empty.
Saturday and Sunday: Oase, Sharks is too crowded.[/QUOTE]Sharks too crowded on Saturday before 9 pm or Sunday after 8 pm? Not sure, girls think same for their business. On my last visits on end of 2021, or this year, not so crowded, even on evening, many girls waiting for business. Maybe because many looks don t worth new Hessen rates, like many at Globe also don t worth rate there.
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Is Sharks going to be empty this weekend because of Easter?
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[QUOTE=Hktj26;2685866]Is Sharks going to be empty this weekend because of Easter?[/QUOTE]Orthodox Easter for Romanians is 24 April.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2685675]Maybe because many looks don t worth new Hessen rates,[/QUOTE]We are finally in agreement. Glad you came around to what I was saying in February.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2685991]We are finally in agreement. Glad you came around to what I was saying in February.[/QUOTE]You say not to pay more than past 50/30 rate I got many times on last Summer but for 1 hour which is more my standard. I say different: without ladyT and Cena, with Miss Sharks who fell for quality already before being elected, unfortunately, even Colombian Marta was cute elegant, but the fall for looks at Sharks on beginning of this year, looks seen not worthing new rate, but if a real beauty full GFE for my love sex, then she could be second I could pay if she ask 150/60 which is less expensive for me than 100/30, and could go weekly to her as usual, after my ski tour, and I wish to find a beauty who are always less expensive for me than average looks I don't pay for. I look for quality and dream, I don't play grocery when I don't snail yet on German autobahns.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2686036]You say not to pay more than past 50/30 rate I got many times on last Summer but for 1 hour which is more my standard. I say different: without ladyT and Cena, with Miss Sharks who fell for quality already before being elected, unfortunately, even Colombian Marta was cute elegant, but the fall for looks at Sharks on beginning of this year, looks seen not worthing new rate, but if a real beauty full GFE for my love sex, then she could be second I could pay if she ask 150/60 which is less expensive for me than 100/30, and could go weekly to her as usual, after my ski tour, and I wish to find a beauty who are always less expensive for me than average looks I don't pay for. I look for quality and dream, I don't play grocery when I don't snail yet on German autobahns.[/QUOTE]Same same. I just said it earlier and now you agree and follow. Just glad you came to reality!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2685921]Orthodox Easter for Romanians is 24 April.[/QUOTE]Does this mean the clubs will be empty this coming weekend? Am supposed to be there for a weekend trip. But may move it if it will be lame.
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[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2685525]Earlier in March I went to Sharks for the first time in more than two years. Nice to be back and watch the nude girls strolling around. A lot of new faces, some I probably had seen before and a few (to me) familiar faces. The mood was as before with all the same questions "Wie geht's", How are you", "Were are you from", "Want to go to the room". Followed by all the same answers from me as before. After a while I noticed a pretty, tall girl sitting at the bar at the end towards the stairs. Natural boobs, no tattoos, brown shoulder length hair. I decided to give it a try and I stopped her when she did a tour around the bar. She introduced herself as Malika. I had to look up at her when I talked with her and I am normal height. I asked for 30 min and she said 100 E. OK, then. What's included? She said full package and then off to the room. She kept her full package-promise. No upselling in the room. Started with kissing. She was OK with it, but I have had deeper and more intense DFK before. Blowjob and licking very nice. Finished off in missionary with some additional kissing. A nice girl and good service for being to first time I met her.[/QUOTE]Is she the very tall Indian girl that was in discussion on this forum last month? How tall is she? Like 6'3?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2686222]Same same. I just said it earlier and now you agree and follow. Just glad you came to reality![/QUOTE]No, not same when you are a grocer and I never saw you with a impressive look, when I know a beautiful Vanquish worth more expensive, when Sharks is just not at best for looks on this year, but I couldn't also find any attractive at Globe on last night among 60 girls. I wish I will get more pleasure in Verbier and Sharks casting will improve after Easter.
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New Girl? Julia
Julia? Anyone have information about her?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=BurnInMoilite;2686377]Is she the very tall Indian girl that was in discussion on this forum last month? How tall is she? Like 6'3?[/QUOTE]Wow.
Is there really that tall girls in Sharks?
What are the longest legs of Sharks at the moment?
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2686447]Julia? Anyone have information about her?.[/QUOTE]19 yo very pretty and skinny girl. About 156 cm. New Melody-type or Tessa-type girl. Very shy. Very tight. She is the friend of Anastasia (now named Kathleen or Cathy). Always rejects 50 euros. She claimed 100 euro /30 min plus tips at least. 200/ hour sometimes. No kiss. She Understands English but have language barrier as Melody did. She told me she could speak German very well.
Those who like Melody would like her. It seems she was very busy even in Thursday when most girls were idle.
So anyway, new Melody (2019) or new Tessa (2019).
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New Julia, 19 year old. Very pretty girl
I have hesitation to introduce Julia. Same reason As I never mention Melody who used to be one of my most favorite girl in Sharks before pandemic.
Julia is so tender, flesh, young and pretty girl. She is just 19 years old. She is shy and serious girl. She seldom smile.
Julia just started this job about 2 weeks ago. New to business. Of course she never like this job. She would like to quit if she could have some other opportunities. I doubt she could work long in Sharks. I worry that she would be destroyed fiercely and brutally by mongers.
Now she tries to reject those demanding 50 euroer. It seems that Julia tends to be abused by locals. On Thursday and Friday, there are several old local guys sat around Julia to block her business. Later on Julia told me that those guys requested 50 euros /30 min. But they didn't move even after being rejected by Julia.
As I mentioned before, Julia requests 100 euros per 30 min plus tips, or 150 euros per hour plus tips.
Pay her well, make her happy, keep her long.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2686689]I have hesitation to introduce Julia. Same reason As I never mention Melody who used to be one of my most favorite girl in Sharks before pandemic.
Julia is so tender, flesh, young and pretty girl. She is just 19 years old. She is shy and serious girl. She seldom smile.
Julia just started this job about 2 weeks ago. New to business. Of course she never like this job. She would like to quit if she could have some other opportunities. I doubt she could work long in Sharks. I worry that she would be destroyed fiercely and brutally by mongers.
Now she tries to reject those demanding 50 euroer. It seems that Julia tends to be abused by locals. On Thursday and Friday, there are several old local guys sat around Julia to block her business. Later on Julia told me that those guys requested 50 euros /30 min. But they didn't move even after being rejected by Julia..[/QUOTE]The shorter, the more expensive and even asking for tips? For what outstanding she gives? When so tender but she is not even able to kiss? I knew a real tender at LR, she would have deeply French kissed me from her start on day until 4 am and not like a robot turning tongue but with passion, looking deeply in eyes. Too many girls think now they can make big money doing only the minimum. I pay only 150/60 and not more nor tip for supermodel and when they are not anymore able to kiss like a woman, then I stop. She may be good for Asians who are back, with her not kissing level, and unfortunately, level will fall with them, when Sharks was on best level on 2021 since 2016, without them.
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Went to Sharks last night for the first time, here is a report for everyone.
1. No ID, covid card, or mask required. As of 4/2 all Covid restrictions have been lifted for almost all of Germany as to what I can tell.
2. Girls are 90% Romanian. The going rate is 100/30 and 150/60. You can try to negotiate and deal here, but most girls are almost unionizing so just be prepared for that price unless you haggle to get a good deal. I'm a pretty seasoned monger and many girls who know they are worth the money simply stood their ground or declined the lower rate. Just be clear on everything before you enter the room. A lot of these girls try to hustle (and rightfully so).
3. The club is fantastic. Locker rooms were clean and spacious compared to other places. Come prepared for 4-6 hours or more. The average bar drink is about 10 Euro and the food is "OK", but nothing to write home about. This is a great club to go as a group and get a bottle and share space, party, etc. If you go alone as I did, just be prepared to people-watch in between sessions.
4. Getting there from Frankfurt was about $30 Euro using the Bolt App. When you leave at night, both Bolt and Uber are "out of range" so be prepared to pay about $60 Euro for a taxi back as there are simply no other options. Make sure they turn on the meter when leaving.
5. If you don't like smoke, this is not a club for you. 50% of the patrons and 80% of the girls smoke. Get over it.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2686658]19 yo very pretty and skinny girl. About 156 cm. New Melody-type or Tessa-type girl. Very shy. Very tight. She is the friend of Anastasia (now named Kathleen or Cathy). Always rejects 50 euros. She claimed 100 euro /30 min plus tips at least. 200/ hour sometimes. No kiss. She Understands English but have language barrier as Melody did. She told me she could speak German very well.
Those who like Melody would like her. It seems she was very busy even in Thursday when most girls were idle.
So anyway, new Melody (2019) or new Tessa (2019).[/QUOTE]Where did she get the idea of 'tipping' from? I personally don't think it's okay to demand tips at the negotiation stage. Maybe that's just me.
I'd be interested to see how beautiful she is. BTW what's the hair colour and cup size?
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Keep your money
Even on Friday and Saturday, There are still at least 10 WGs accept 50 euro /30 min including BBJ and kiss. Keep your money with them.
Asian and American definitely like Julia. She would have enough business from them. She doesn't need your stingy money.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2686773]The shorter, the more expensive and even asking for tips? For what outstanding she gives? When so tender but she is not even able to kiss? I knew a real tender at LR, she would have deeply French kissed me from her start on day until 4 am and not like a robot turning tongue but with passion, looking deeply in eyes. Too many girls think now they can make big money doing only the minimum. I pay only 150/60 and not more nor tip for supermodel and when they are not anymore able to kiss like a woman, then I stop. She may be good for Asians who are back, with her not kissing level, and unfortunately, level will fall with them, when Sharks was on best level on 2021 since 2016, without them.[/QUOTE]
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Julia
Where she usually sit? Hair color?
Thanks.
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Some updates for Sharks girls
Now many Japanese come back. I saw at least 10 of them on Friday and Saturday. Asian Americans come back too. No people from China because of pandemic lockdown in China.
Besides Julia, I also found a few girls who could easily distinguish them from current mediocre lineup. I only choose girls who could attract me optically.
Adriana, was my lovely "Ashley" three years ago. She usually sat together along with Teodora. Adriana is still as pretty and smart as 3 years ago.
Claudia (23 yo, 170 cm, A cup) had been back from vacation since 3 weeks ago. She started to work at Sharks 5 months ago. Super nice. Pretty model type. Some German customers paid her 200 euro / hour. She would focus on Asian or Americans busses as well.
Teodora (21 yo, she told me), 4 months in Sharks. Super pretty. She is a rising star. 100 euro for 30 min or 150-200/ hour. She asked me several times to take her. I was concentrated on Julia too much this time. Would give her more business at next visit. Teodora would attract lots of Asian or American customers. Teodora sat on the couch which was Betty's clique resided. Betty's group now relocate to the sofa facing Bar, which is next to Julia's place.
Marla or Mala, 25 yo. Pretty and fun. She has beautiful big eyes. We did go to room several times 4 years ago. She recognized me immediately even if we haven't seen each other for years. We both recalled many details. We spent several hours in the room this time. She joked that she would stay with me until reach my budget limit. Marla told me she has lots of Asian customers because Japanese like her teenage-look face. Marla usually sat with Anastasia and Julia.
Catherine / Cathy / Kathleen, the famous "Anastasia" of 2019. She is still very young and pretty, only 21 year old. She has blue / green eyes. Asians or Americans like her of course.
Roxi is super busy. She even could not sat on the couch for 5 minutes. I believe all kinds of customers like her.
Cosmina, though 30 yo, now still very active and busy with the coming back of Japanese group. She charged at least 150 e / hour plus tips as one Japanese told me.
For Other traditional Asian hunters, their business seems improved.
Very high proportions (about 50%) of WGs who have worked in Sharks for many years (more than 7 years).
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]Now many Japanese come back. I saw at least 10 of them on Friday and Saturday. Asian Americans come back too. No people from China because of pandemic lockdown in China.
Besides Julia, I also found a few girls who could easily distinguish them from current mediocre lineup. I only choose girls who could attract me optically.
Adriana, was my lovely "Ashley" three years ago. She usually sat together along with Teodora. Adriana is still as pretty and smart as 3 years ago.
Claudia (23 yo, 170 cm, A cup) had been back from vacation since 3 weeks ago. She started to work at Sharks 5 months ago. Super nice. Pretty model type. Some German customers paid her 200 euro / hour. She would focus on Asian or Americans busses as well.
Teodora (21 yo, she told me), 4 months in Sharks. Super pretty. She is a rising star. 100 euro for 30 min or 150-200/ hour. She asked me several times to take her. I was concentrated on Julia too much this time. Would give her more business at next visit. Teodora would attract lots of Asian or American customers. Teodora sat on the couch which was Betty's clique resided. Betty's group now relocate to the sofa facing Bar, which is next to Julia's place.[/QUOTE]Lovely report.
Thank you for sharing!
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Easter Monday
How is the scene on Easter Monday?
Good / bad?
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2686998]Even on Friday and Saturday, There are still at least 10 WGs accept 50 euro /30 min including BBJ and kiss. Keep your money with them.
Asian and American definitely like Julia. She would have enough business from them. She doesn't need your stingy money.[/QUOTE]I know a bit Sharks: Teodora, not new Adriana ex Ashley, long time Cosmina of course, even I don t go often on 2022 because looks are not impressive for my eyes, lower casting than on 2021 when some fell. I usually don't go now with short Romanians and not being able to kiss like a woman is a real no go for me, I don t even try to negotiate to get because I know it won t be natural and not good, frustrating for me when I m used to girls who kiss, so no Teodora baby kiss, but I will give You a secret: girls don t always give same to all of us, or ask same money to all of us and they ask more expensive to Asian types, why they prefer and easier faster for sex, Cosmina being a good example and I m pretty sure not the only one, when I never heard any except Angela asking 200/60 , when she was not pretty enough for me to even worth 150/60, I don't pay for the Jaguar. But I m happy for you, You enjoyed some girls, but no kissing is low quality for me, not GFE when I never had a girlfriend not French kissing me, so can t be paid high rate and furthermore no tip when my only tip is to drive many kilometers weekly to repeat when nobody else is able to do this. Give me a fresh natural supermodel fresh GFE like was Katalea on her arrival and I had 2 rooms on my weekly visits for total 300/120 , but she lost freshness and I didn't see such look on 2022 , not even at Globe. Beauties worth more expensive for me than short and not kissing. I agree on one point: Germans and locals valided increasing rates since lockdown. At the moment, I know higher level for some girls elsewhere and they are for less expensive and even German girls but far higher level than Daisi or prettier and natural than German table.
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[QUOTE=Gfefan;2687189]How is the scene on Easter Monday?
Good / bad?[/QUOTE]Catholic Easter have no consequence on brothels business. Orthodox on next week end have.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2686831]Where did she get the idea of 'tipping' from? I personally don't think it's okay to demand tips at the negotiation stage. Maybe that's just me.
I'd be interested to see how beautiful she is. BTW what's the hair colour and cup size?[/QUOTE]I wait to see the short look but I won't rush when I already saw Adriana / Ashley or Teodora and didn't jump on, but I'm pretty sure she won't dare to ask tip to a Caucasian, when many just ask: don't go with other girls.
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Really not great
[QUOTE=Gfefan;2687189]How is the scene on Easter Monday?
Good / bad?[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday. Really not great. It is hard to get girls to accept less than 100 for 30. The lineup wasn't great either. Easter is never that great a time to visit these clubs.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]
Claudia (23 yo, 170 cm, A cup) had been back from vacation since 3 weeks ago. She started to work at Sharks 5 months ago. Super nice. Pretty model type. Some German customers paid her 200 euro / hour. She would focus on Asian or Americans busses as well.
Teodora (21 yo, she told me), 4 months in Sharks. Super pretty. She is a rising star. 100 euro for 30 min or 150-200/ hour.
[/QUOTE]Is the going rate 100 Euros /30 minutes over there now? That's a huge inflation from what I remember three years ago.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2687535]Is the going rate 100 Euros /30 minutes over there now? That's a huge inflation from what I remember three years ago.[/QUOTE]50 e /30 min still exists. But you'll have to be willing to grind for it. 150 e /60 min seems to be reasonable compromise nowadays.
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Julia again
With shoes, she is about 175 cm.
Julia has no much makeup, relatively white skin among Sharks girls, no tattoos on body except wrist and hand. Just start to smoke cigarettes.
She might not ask tips from locals Caucasian, but she either rejected some of them directly, or quote some of them 150/30, yes 150 euro per 30 min. I overheard that several times.
I paid Julia 900 for 5 sessions (hour) in two days, which include tips, tips, tips.
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Covid
Are they still asking for vaccine cards or making you take a test? What about to enter Germany from the US?
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Covid
No restrictions anymore in the clubs.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687694]With shoes, she is about 175 cm.
Julia has no much makeup, relatively white skin among Sharks girls, no tattoos on body except wrist and hand. Just start to smoke cigarettes.
She might not ask tips from locals Caucasian, but she either rejected some of them directly, or quote some of them 150/30, yes 150 euro per 30 min. I overheard that several times.
I paid Julia 900 for 5 sessions (hour) in two days, which include tips, tips, tips.[/QUOTE]If a girl asks for tips upfront, I close the session all together before it starts. It's fucking business, and they provide a price (which is high) for great service. Unless they throw in a non pre-negotiated extra like BBFS or CIM saying it won't cost extra, they don't get a tip. If a girl asks for a tip at the end, well, that's much easier to deal with.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687694]With shoes, she is about 175 cm.
Julia has no much makeup, relatively white skin among Sharks girls, no tattoos on body except wrist and hand. Just start to smoke cigarettes.
She might not ask tips from locals Caucasian, but she either rejected some of them directly, or quote some of them 150/30, yes 150 euro per 30 min. I overheard that several times.
I paid Julia 900 for 5 sessions (hour) in two days, which include tips, tips, tips [QUOTE=Sirioja;2687227]I wait to see the short look but I won't rush when I already saw Adriana / Ashley or Teodora and didn't jump on, but I'm pretty sure she won't dare to ask tip to a Caucasian, when many just ask: don't go with other girls.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]Julia didn't ask tips. I was willing to give her.
If some mongers feel she is too expensive, then try to find cheaper one in Sharks.
But tell you the truth, 150/60 or 100/30 is now the standard in Sharks. It not me or tourists or Asians who set up the price, it is the locals, yes locals, who made it happen since last year. You guys should blame locals who acquiesced the price increase.
I have no interest to argue with cheaper Charlies. In RLD of Frankfurt, there are tons of pros (not my type) who changed 50 euros only. Go there.
I am here try to provide information for all mongers benefits. For months, in this forum, I am the few one who provide useful girls information which most mongers would be eager to know.
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2687743]If a girl asks for tips upfront, I close the session all together before it starts. It's fucking business, and they provide a price (which is high) for great service. Unless they throw in a non pre-negotiated extra like BBFS or CIM saying it won't cost extra, they don't get a tip. If a girl asks for a tip at the end, well, that's much easier to deal with.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687694]With shoes, she is about 175 cm.
Julia has no much makeup, relatively white skin among Sharks girls, no tattoos on body except wrist and hand. Just start to smoke cigarettes.
She might not ask tips from locals Caucasian, but she either rejected some of them directly, or quote some of them 150/30, yes 150 euro per 30 min. I overheard that several times.
I paid Julia 900 for 5 sessions (hour) in two days, which include tips, tips, tips.[/QUOTE]There is a lot € in two days. Did she provide good service? Or Melody 2. 0 ?
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2687782]There is a lot in two days. Did she provide good service? Or Melody 2. 0 ?[/QUOTE]Yes, Julia is like new Melody. Those who didn't like Melody would not like Julia, vice versa.
I only find girls who could optically attract me.
Not-good-looking girls usually provide better service.
But you still could focus on Teodora. She is pretty enough. I confirmed.
Not many pretty girls in current Sharks lineup. You know even those old and not-good looking tutes would like to charge 100/30 in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2687606]50 e /30 min still exists. But you'll have to be willing to grind for it. 150 e /60 min seems to be reasonable compromise nowadays.[/QUOTE]I think I know what you mean, but let's try to be more precise:
Many girls (not all) will quote 50 E /30 or 100 E /60 for a basic CBJ / CFS session. 150 E /60 for such a session is outrageous.
What the girls will like to sell (hardsell) is an additonal 50 E good time package that includes "very good" kissing, DATY and a "very good" BJ. They know that this is what the gents want. Thus the 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 quotes. That is the going rates right now (what the majority of girls will quote). 200 E /60 for such a session is outrageous. A little secret: Many girls provide this for 100 E /60 (possibly for 50 E /30 too, but I cannot verify).
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Two new girls accepted 100 Euro per hour
Most not-good looking girls (70% of lineup) had not good business during this time. So they definitely accept 50/30 under some conditions. Most likely is 50/20 min, or 75/30 min. Even on last Friday, I met at least 10 WGs tried to offer me this package. I have no interest.
As I mentioned, I only choose girls could optically attract me. Those girls usually are young, fresh and pretty. They know their value. So you might have to pay at least 100/30 or 200/60.
If you have tight budget, then choose non-good looking WGs with relatively good service. There are plenty of them in Sharks.
However, there are exceptions.
Two new girls, they still accept 100/60.
Annalisa, 19 yo, dyed blonde, vey skinny, tan skin. Two weeks in Sharks, 2 months in OASE, 4 months in Vienna. I gave her a zimmer on Thursday. 100/45 min. But we negotiated 100/60 before I took her to room.
Bianca, 22 yo, blonde, fair skin. 2 weeks in Sharks, new to business. She is nice but lacks business. 100/60 she agreed. I paid her 100 after 45 in room.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2687535]Is the going rate 100 Euros /30 minutes over there now? That's a huge inflation from what I remember three years ago.[/QUOTE]At Sharks, some girls don't ask same to all guys. I laughed reading luscout. De, when was looking for information about my ladyT. But I thank uncle to be honest and give informations about Asian business, being asked more expensive and paying more for lower level, when from my weekly visits, I experienced high GFE level girls don't speak about money, don't ask for how long, but they try to adapt to you, to make you repeat, when little Romanians don't have potential for this. Not kissing is low level for me, I never insist, I just don't go, not good sex for me. Sharks improved for quality when almost no Asians on 2021 and will fall again because why girls would work to provide good services when they can have big money from easy Asians. Those who are known as specialists, almost visiting clubs daily, who were at Sharks on 2021 reopening, are not now but elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2687802]I think I know what you mean, but let's try to be more precise:
Many girls (not all) will quote 50 E /30 or 100 E /60 for a basic CBJ / CFS session. 150 E /60 for such a session is outrageous.
What the girls will like to sell (hardsell) is an additonal 50 E good time package that includes "very good" kissing, DATY and a "very good" BJ. They know that this is what the gents want. Thus the 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 quotes. That is the going rates right now (what the majority of girls will quote). 200 E /60 for such a session is outrageous. A little secret: Many girls provide this for 100 E /60 (possibly for 50 E /30 too, but I cannot verify).[/QUOTE]My advice is not to pay extra for very good kissing, because girls asking extra for kissing are those who don't like kissing, so most won't provide good kissing, but peck for Asians. And good kissing don't mean putting tongue in throat, as say girls about Germans.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2687802]I think I know what you mean, but let's try to be more precise:
Many girls (not all) will quote 50 E /30 or 100 E /60 for a basic CBJ / CFS session. 150 E /60 for such a session is outrageous.
What the girls will like to sell (hardsell) is an additonal 50 E good time package that includes "very good" kissing, DATY and a "very good" BJ. They know that this is what the gents want. Thus the 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 quotes. That is the going rates right now (what the majority of girls will quote). 200 E /60 for such a session is outrageous. A little secret: Many girls provide this for 100 E /60 (possibly for 50 E /30 too, but I cannot verify).[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I meant. Thanks for the elaboration.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]
Marla or Mala, 25 yo. Pretty and fun. She has beautiful big eyes. We did go to room several times 4 years ago. She recognized me immediately even if we haven't seen each other for years. We both recalled many details. We spent several hours in the room this time. She joked that she would stay with me until reach my budget limit. Marla told me she has lots of Asian customers because Japanese like her teenage-look face. Marla usually sat with Anastasia and Julia.
[/QUOTE]I think you mean MARA, very pretty and usually sits on couch facing the bar, with Vanessa.
Mara with Katherin (Anastasia) walk together for threesome.
Is that your Mala?
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Mara / Mala
[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]Marla or Mala, 25 yo. Pretty and fun. She has beautiful big eyes. We did go to room several times 4 years ago. She recognized me immediately even if we haven't seen each other for years. We both recalled many details. We spent several hours in the room this time. She joked that she would stay with me until reach my budget limit. Marla told me she has lots of Asian customers because Japanese like her teenage-look face. Marla usually sat with Anastasia and Julia..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tuber19;2687839]I think you mean MARA, very pretty and usually sits on couch facing the bar, with Vanessa.
Mara with Katherin (Anastasia) walk together for threesome.
Is that your Mala?[/QUOTE]It should be the same girl. Yes, Mara is very pretty with beautiful bright eyes.
Mara / Mala (she pronounced like that) sat with Julia and Catherine (Anastasia) at same couch, which is closed to Betty's group. Mara could be Anastasia's cousin.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2687817]At Sharks, some girls don't ask same to all guys.....[/QUOTE]You mean some stunner girls will take less than EUR100/1/2 hour, EUR200/1 hour from certain customers?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2688062]You mean some stunner girls will take less than EUR100/1/2 hour, EUR200/1 hour from certain customers?[/QUOTE]Yes, some girls will take less for some guys. I'm not an Adonis, but I have a very masculine Cuban look at I often get low rates since girls, while still working, are attracted to men too. If you are old, fat, smell, or not attractive to them, they are going to charge you more.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2688062]You mean some stunner girls will take less than EUR100/1/2 hour, EUR200/1 hour from certain customers?[/QUOTE]I do agree with Sirioja on this one. The asking price can differ with different guys. Although the level of service isn't guaranteed for a given price. If the girl likes you, you can certainly get more for less.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2688111]I do agree with Sirioja on this one. The asking price can differ with different guys. Although the level of service isn't guaranteed for a given price. If the girl likes you, you can certainly get more for less.[/QUOTE]Of course. I paid 75 euros for one hour in GT with Olivia the German girl while some dude who was visiting the club weekly because he was at the time in love with German girls paid 100 euros for the same duration.
My secret: I'm not a spineless lovesick puppy, if a girl stands her ground I move to another one.
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For what it's worth. Regulars did not charge the 100 E half hour prices. I did tip them 20 euro when I went for one hour and 10 euro for 30 minutes. Some girls who did not know me tried to charge 100 euro for the half hour but in one instance, I was able to bargain Cum in Mouth for 120 euro. Several girls offered a quickie service for 50 euro. In Cologne, I did not have to deal with any haggling.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2688062]You mean some stunner girls will take less than EUR100/1/2 hour, EUR200/1 hour from certain customers?[/QUOTE]My best girl at Sharks on 2021 who was also my best all over FKK land including Globe and Wellcum, elegant, GFE kissing and interesting as woman for chat and in bed, was for 100/60 for our many rooms. I would be so happy she return and would go almost weekly only for her. Why do you want I pay more expensive for less elegance and lower GFE level, when can't be GFE without kissing. She was ex Mainhattan. I also got great GFE Cena, Daisi. De, Roxana, for 100/60. Cosmina was for 100/60 for some French I know. The asking most expensive are usually not the best, when high level girls usually don't speak about money.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687768]Julia didn't ask tips. I was willing to give her.
If some mongers feel she is too expensive, then try to find cheaper one in Sharks.
But tell you the truth, 150/60 or 100/30 is now the standard in Sharks. It not me or tourists or Asians who set up the price, it is the locals, yes locals, who made it happen since last year. You guys should blame locals who acquiesced the price increase.
I have no interest to argue with cheaper Charlies. In RLD of Frankfurt, there are tons of pros (not my type) who changed 50 euros only. Go there.
I am here try to provide information for all mongers benefits. For months, in this forum, I am the few one who provide useful girls information which most mongers would be eager to know.[/QUOTE]First, thank you for your posts which are at least honest and tell about Asian business, compare to many fakes without even visiting. Some grocers here would tell you I paid too expensive Miss Sharks 2021 for 150/60 when she was fresh GFE and for face, not hidden yet behind heavy gothic make up. I often wrote I have no problem to pay 150/60 for a impressive look like 185 supermodel Kelli and top GFE for love sex like my ladyT or my deep Rhur DE, meaning kissing with sensuality, when not kissing is low level for me and I don't pay for this. From girls you listed, some ask only 100/60 to others than Asians. I always only choose with my eyes and never follow others list because each time I was told about a beauty for my tastes, I was disappointed when I m the most picky and only interested by beauties who look and behave like normal women, so, those who speak about money kill my desire. As say girls: we are all different, and as I experience: girls don't behave and ask same to all of us. No upselling is part of quality for me.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2688111]I do agree with Sirioja on this one. The asking price can differ with different guys. Although the level of service isn't guaranteed for a given price. If the girl likes you, you can certainly get more for less.[/QUOTE]Some short girls seem to ask now 200/60 but not even kissing. Kissing is the most valuable enjoyable for me because the most intimate and in mind for most girls, more than sucking without condom or even fucking AO.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687861]It should be the same girl. Yes, Mara is very pretty with beautiful bright eyes.
Mara / Mala (she pronounced like that) sat with Julia and Catherine (Anastasia) at same couch, which is closed to Betty's group. Mara could be Anastasia's cousin.[/QUOTE]I used to like Betty.
I like Mara alot.
I heared Julia is a new Star.
This couch will be my best spot in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2688189]From girls you listed, some ask only 100/60 to others than Asians..[/QUOTE]At this trip, the girls Who optically attract me.
Julia, 19 yo, new.
Ashley / Adriana.
Teodora, 21 yo.
Claudia, 23 yo.
Catherine / Anastasia, 21 yo.
Mara / Mala, 25 yo.
Roxy.
I didn't discuss price before go to zimmer. I only mentioned club rate, flexible time (at least 1 hour), and tips possible. There was no negotiation actually. Girls were satisfied with what I paid them. The Default club rate I apply is 150/60. I did mention tips, but it is "possible".
Some of them charged 100/ hour last year, but no more. I don't believe girls in above list now will allow you to pay them 100/60 only.
For new Annalisa (19 yo) and new Bianca (22 yo), I negotiated price with them because I didn't include them in my prime list. They requested 150/60, I counteroffer 100/60. They agreed. You could try these two.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2688229]I used to like Betty.
I like Mara alot.
I heared Julia is a new Star.
This couch will be my best spot in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Betty now with glasses 🤓, she looks like before just started in Shark with glasses. Same sofa has all your favorite girls.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2688291]At this trip, the girls Who optically attract me.
Julia, 19 yo, new.
Ashley / Adriana.
Teodora, 21 yo.
Claudia, 23 yo.
Catherine / Anastasia, 21 yo.
Mara / Mala, 25 yo.
Roxy.
I didn't discuss price before go to zimmer. I only mentioned club rate, flexible time (at least 1 hour), and tips possible. There was no negotiation actually. Girls were satisfied with what I paid them. The Default club rate I apply is 150/60. I did mention tips, but it is "possible".
Some of them charged 100/ hour last year, but no more. I don't believe girls in above list now will allow you to pay them 100/60 only.
For new Annalisa (19 yo) and new Bianca (22 yo), I negotiated price with them because I didn't include them in my prime list. They requested 150/60, I counteroffer 100/60. They agreed. You could try these two.[/QUOTE]Is the rate just applied to you? Or for everyone?
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2688229]I used to like Betty. [/QUOTE]What's wrong with Betty now?
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2688477]Is the rate just applied to you? Or for everyone?[/QUOTE]Well, since you are in Sharks now, you could ask Julia, or Your "girlfriend" Teodora whether 100/60 rate is OK for them. LOL.
I know Julia would charge everyone at least 150/60 plus tips. When Julia wants to reject someone, she requests 150/30. I saw that happened.
Teodora, she could change 200/60, right?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2688178]Cosmina was for 100/60 for some French I know.[/QUOTE]I was in Sharks with Cosmina 3 weeks ago. I can testify that she was very busy. Right after I paid her 150 e, a Japanese guy came to talk to her, then they disappeared together (I was not sure if she took shower). Later that day, I saw her only show up around bar to get drinks then disappear. The waiting line was very long for Cosmina. I doubt whether your French even had chance to talk to Cosmina.
It doesn't make any sense that Cosmina would agree 100/60 from your French friend, when Cosmina could easily get 150/60 or 200/60 from her Japanese fans. It is business, you know.
So many Japanese mongers are waiting for Cosmina.
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I'm terrible with names but if I remember OK, Cosmina was a pale skinned, skinny brunette that smoked like a chimney? I guess they all do. Anyway, if that is her, been with her several years ago, like 2012 or 2013, but not in the last 5 years for sure. She must be pushing 30 by now (and must have fucked thousands of guys if not tens of thousands. First, you have to give a round of applause to these girls and how many dicks they can take in. That said, I am not sure I'd be paying these sums mentioned here. I haven't taken her in years for a reason, namely she was not the best bun in the house when I did attend these clubs (or not even in the top 15 to 20 if I am being strict). If suddenly she is commanding premium rates, I shudder to imagine the attitude of the few good ones.
Likewise, I think Betty also sounds familiar. Was she a brunette too, small chested and tiny, cute as a button and wore glasses (that sounds like a description of Cosmina also, LOL). Or perhaps she was a blonde. They all look the same tbh. Anyway, been with her a long time ago, as in more than 5 years and I liked her then lookswise but she did something to turn me off. Can't recall the specifics, perhaps she gave poor service or demanded too much money or other stuff. But I have the impression she became an Asian specialist. I had the same impression about Cosmina too but then again, more than 50% of Romie girls fancy themselves as Asian specialists.
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Need your advice and do a reality check
Greetings and thank in advance.
I'm planning a trip to Europe and could have a long layover in Frankfurt. My plan is to fly in on Friday morning and catch my 9:30 pm flight leaving FRA. I can use the time to visit sharks again. My last visit was in 2017 and had a great time.
After reading a few recent pages here, I am on the fence now. Seems a lot of "special" rates toward Asians. I'm an Asian and need some your insight.
I have tried multiple FKKs and can handle up selling nonsense fairly ok. My last visit at sharks 5 yrs ago, I got 50 euro for 30 min, all three ladies provided BBJ, DATY. But now it seems the rate went up quite a bit.
For this visit, I am trying to get some German girls (had a lot of Romanians lately.) I'm not so picky about look but am a big ass fan. LOL. So my questions are if German girls are normally around Friday afternoon and if girls are still offering the regular rate to start with (understand ymmv).
BTW, what would be the latest to leave for a9:30 evening flight? If I take a cab, how much would it cost ballpark?
Thanks!
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Cosmina is a sucker's specialist. Like Anastasia but provides much better service.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2688544]I'm terrible with names but if I remember OK, Cosmina was a pale skinned, skinny brunette that smoked like a chimney? I guess they all do. Anyway, if that is her, been with her several years ago, like 2012 or 2013, but not in the last 5 years for sure. She must be pushing 30 by now (and must have fucked thousands of guys if not tens of thousands. First, you have to give a round of applause to these girls and how many dicks they can take in. That said, I am not sure I'd be paying these sums mentioned here. I haven't taken her in years for a reason, namely she was not the best bun in the house when I did attend these clubs (or not even in the top 15 to 20 if I am being strict). If suddenly she is commanding premium rates, I shudder to imagine the attitude of the few good ones.
Likewise, I think Betty also sounds familiar. Was she a brunette too, small chested and tiny, cute as a button and wore glasses (that sounds like a description of Cosmina also, LOL). Or perhaps she was a blonde. They all look the same tbh. Anyway, been with her a long time ago, as in more than 5 years and I liked her then lookswise but she did something to turn me off. Can't recall the specifics, perhaps she gave poor service or demanded too much money or other stuff. But I have the impression she became an Asian specialist. I had the same impression about Cosmina too but then again, more than 50% of Romie girls fancy themselves as Asian specialists.[/QUOTE]She was brunette when I had my only room with her on 2014 , at this time, she followed Barbie Ingrid whose look impressed me much more. After she followed Evita and turned blond, maybe to look different? And better for Asian business. Even Megan turned blond few months before moving to Globe where grey blond and less attractive look. Even long time in business, but Cosmina still seems more firm body than average at Sharks and with her naturals and not many tattoos, she would be a exception at Globe. Just lack of charm, but same than more than 90% of Globe girls.
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Likewise, I think Betty also sounds familiar. Was she a brunette too, small chested and tiny, cute as a button and wore glasses (that sounds like a description of Cosmina also, LOL).
Betty still Looks the same to me compare to 4 years ago.
Cosmina is still UncleOx favorite due to her history with him.
Betty is back to Glasses 🤓 style and it makes her looks cute.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2688488]Well, since you are in Sharks now, you could ask Julia, or Your "girlfriend" Teodora whether 100/60 rate is OK for them. LOL.
I know Julia would charge everyone at least 150/60 plus tips. When Julia wants to reject someone, she requests 150/30. I saw that happened.
Teodora, she could change 200/60, right?[/QUOTE]WOW.
That is quite a bit € to spend on Julia!
I personal will think twice before spending that kind of € unless she provide GFE service.
UncleOx probably got her great service right?
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2688581]Likewise, I think Betty also sounds familiar. Was she a brunette too, small chested and tiny, cute as a button and wore glasses (that sounds like a description of Cosmina also, LOL).
Betty still Looks the same to me compare to 4 years ago.
Cosmina is still UncleOx favorite due to her history with him.
Betty is back to Glasses 🤓 style and it makes her looks cute.[/QUOTE]You have got to be kidding.
These three are 7's.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2688291]At this trip, the girls Who optically attract me.
Julia, 19 yo, new.
Ashley / Adriana.
Teodora, 21 yo.
Claudia, 23 yo.
Catherine / Anastasia, 21 yo.
Mara / Mala, 25 yo.
Roxy.
I didn't discuss price before go to zimmer. I only mentioned club rate, flexible time (at least 1 hour), and tips possible. There was no negotiation actually. Girls were satisfied with what I paid them. The Default club rate I apply is 150/60. I did mention tips, but it is "possible"..[/QUOTE]I don't know your Julia you described 158 on the floor, so, should not be impressive supermodel with long legs. Roxy is really not impressive look, same if one on your list is ex Anastasia, now so thin. Adriana don't have wow face and not kissing Teodora is also nothing wow. I need prettier and really kissing, not little, expensive girls. 150/60 is only for wow looks and real GFE for me, when not sensual kissing can't be GFE. I have a wow GFE for 80/60 in Germany and also a outstanding sexual potential German without silicon nor big tattoos for less expensive than usual rates now at Sharks, so I prefer to go for them when I won't pay more expensive for lower quality.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2688481]What's wrong with Betty now?[/QUOTE]Nothing, she used to be my favourite for long time, but now I like Mara more, I still go with Betty from time to time.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2688291]At this trip, the girls Who optically attract me.
Julia, 19 yo, new.
Ashley / Adriana.
Teodora, 21 yo.
Claudia, 23 yo.
Catherine / Anastasia, 21 yo.
Mara / Mala, 25 yo.
Roxy.
.[/QUOTE]Wooow, almost the same.
-Catherine services is not good.
- I don't know who Claudia is!!
- Roxy is very nice to talk to but I didn't go with her to the room, but my friend did alot.
- Ashley is very cute, I was with her 3 years ago, now she is back, I hope that her services is better, in that case she will definitely be one of my favorites.
- Teodora is beautiful but I don't like the way she do her business.
- Mara is the best (for now).
- Julia should look cute as you list the same girls I like, I think I trust your taste.
Now I'm very exited to visit Sharks in June, Mara+Betty+ Ashley +Julia will be too much to handle.
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So is Sharks expected to be empty this weekend because of Easter in Romania?
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[QUOTE=Hktj26;2688775]So is Sharks expected to be empty this weekend because of Easter in Romania?[/QUOTE]Yes, even emptier than normal post-Plandemic.
With Labour Day and Mother's Day on May 1st, don't expect any action for the next two weeks:
[URL]https://www.officeholidays.com/countries/romania/2022[/URL]
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2688291]At this trip, the girls Who optically attract me.
Julia, 19 yo, new.
Ashley / Adriana.
Teodora, 21 yo.
Claudia, 23 yo.
Catherine / Anastasia, 21 yo.
Mara / Mala, 25 yo.
Roxy.
I didn't discuss price before go to zimmer. I only mentioned club rate, flexible time (at least 1 hour), and tips possible. There was no negotiation actually. Girls were satisfied with what I paid them. The Default club rate I apply is 150/60. I did mention tips, but it is "possible".
Some of them charged 100/ hour last year, but no more. I don't believe girls in above list now will allow you to pay them 100/60 only.
For new Annalisa (19 yo) and new Bianca (22 yo), I negotiated price with them because I didn't include them in my prime list. They requested 150/60, I counteroffer 100/60. They agreed. You could try these two.[/QUOTE]I don't understand the obsession for age.
Any woman can lie about her age. And any woman can look good or provide good service regardless of age. There are 30 year olds who still look better than 19 year olds because they took better care of their body, had better genes, didn't smoke, didn't get crazy tattoos, etc.
[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2687606]50 e /30 min still exists. But you'll have to be willing to grind for it. 150 e /60 min seems to be reasonable compromise nowadays.[/QUOTE]
I’m ok with 100 euros/30 minutes for the 2-3 out of 50 girl lineup I actually like. But one can still find 50-60 euros/30 minutes if they wait long enough.
Personally, I don’t need to be with someone for 60 minutes. If they’re good, I can always see them again the same night or another night.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2688834]I don't understand the obsession for age. Any woman can lie about her age. And any woman can look good or provide good service regardless of age. There are 30 year olds who still look better than 19 year olds because they took better care of their body, had better genes, didn't smoke, didn't get crazy tattoos, etc.[/QUOTE]For some guys, it's all a part of the illusion of "girlfriend experience" sex with the young women of their wet dreams from the days of their own youth gone by. As long as she pulls it off, without them ever knowing the truth about her real age (thus destroying the illusion), then everybody is happy.
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[QUOTE=Hktj26;2688775]So is Sharks expected to be empty this weekend because of Easter in Romania?[/QUOTE]So far those girls I asked 9/10 will stay but some of them will be only off on Sunday 4/24 due to holiday.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2688834]I don't understand the obsession for age.
Any woman can lie about her age. And any woman can look good or provide good service regardless of age. There are 30 year olds who still look better than 19 year olds because they took better care of their body, had better genes, didn't smoke, didn't get crazy tattoos, etc.
Im ok with 100 euros/30 minutes for the 2-3 out of 50 girl lineup I actually like. But one can still find 50-60 euros/30 minutes if they wait long enough.
Personally, I dont need to be with someone for 60 minutes. If theyre good, I can always see them again the same night or another night.[/QUOTE]When you fuck a 18/20 yo, you feel younger, when I know 25 or older are higher level for sex. I never had sex with any in 40's in my private life, but I really love much my 40 yo mum Hungarian, full GFE fluently French kissing for 80/60 in NRW. Far higher level for love sex than Romanian expensive little girls.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2688513]I was in Sharks with Cosmina 3 weeks ago. I can testify that she was very busy. Right after I paid her 150 e, a Japanese guy came to talk to her, then they disappeared together (I was not sure if she took shower). Later that day, I saw her only show up around bar to get drinks then disappear. The waiting line was very long for Cosmina. I doubt whether your French even had chance to talk to Cosmina.
It doesn't make any sense that Cosmina would agree 100/60 from your French friend, when Cosmina could easily get 150/60 or 200/60 from her Japanese fans. It is business, you know.
So many Japanese mongers are waiting for Cosmina.[/QUOTE]When I have for sure much more than 200 visits at Sharks, I saw on many times Cosmina sitting in couch with no business, even saw Evita if You know, and for sure girls don t ask same to Asians and Caucasians and also don t provide same. Asians are for easier and more expensive. Like in my business, some works make income to feed company, to pay credits, rent, materials, salaries and taxes, and some are extra.
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Sharks and Oase or Globe Zurich?
It seems I will be visiting back to FKK land for the first time since mid 2020 and the pandemic and I'm kind of undecided where to go! Do I go to Sharks which from the reports here seems to be the current best option in the Frankfurt area or should I go back to Globe in Zurich?
Who are the new 'top girls' in Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2688997]It seems I will be visiting back to FKK land for the first time since mid 2020 and the pandemic and I'm kind of undecided where to go! Do I go to Sharks which from the reports here seems to be the current best option in the Frankfurt area or should I go back to Globe in Zurich?
Who are the new 'top girls' in Sharks?[/QUOTE]Both Sharks and Globe are not at best, Sharks was better on 2021, Globe started to fall before covid. Less than 4 hours driving between both.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]Now many Japanese come back. I saw at least 10 of them on Friday and Saturday. Asian Americans come back too. No people from China because of pandemic lockdown in China.
Besides Julia, I also found a few girls who could easily distinguish them from current mediocre lineup. I only choose girls who could attract me optically.
Adriana, was my lovely "Ashley" three years ago. She usually sat together along with Teodora. Adriana is still as pretty and smart as 3 years ago.
Claudia (23 yo, 170 cm, A cup) had been back from vacation since 3 weeks ago. She started to work at Sharks 5 months ago. Super nice. Pretty model type. Some German customers paid her 200 euro / hour. She would focus on Asian or Americans busses as well.
Teodora (21 yo, she told me), 4 months in Sharks. Super pretty. She is a rising star. 100 euro for 30 min or 150-200/ hour. She asked me several times to take her. I was concentrated on Julia too much this time. Would give her more business at next visit. Teodora would attract lots of Asian or American customers. Teodora sat on the couch which was Betty's clique resided. Betty's group now relocate to the sofa facing Bar, which is next to Julia's place.
Marla or Mala, 25 yo. Pretty and fun. She has beautiful big eyes. We did go to room several times 4 years ago. She recognized me immediately even if we haven't seen each other for years. We both recalled many details. We spent several hours in the room this time. She joked that she would stay with me until reach my budget limit. Marla told me she has lots of Asian customers because Japanese like her teenage-look face. Marla usually sat with Anastasia and Julia.
Catherine / Cathy / Kathleen, the famous "Anastasia" of 2019. She is still very young and pretty, only 21 year old. She has blue / green eyes. Asians or Americans like her of course.
Roxi is super busy. She even could not sat on the couch for 5 minutes. I believe all kinds of customers like her.
Cosmina, though 30 yo, now still very active and busy with the coming back of Japanese group. She charged at least 150 e / hour plus tips as one Japanese told me.
For Other traditional Asian hunters, their business seems improved.
Very high proportions (about 50%) of WGs who have worked in Sharks for many years (more than 7 years).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed introduction. I've been away from shark for years and now reading through the posts for my May visit but only few gave me useful information. Since I have special intersts in BBBJ, could you further recommed few names if you happen to recall that. Thank you!
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April
Anyone know if April is still in Sharks?
I have met her in 2019 and had no chance to visit sharks after that but I will visit in May.
She was small and skinny style girl, German / Turkey mix.
She said she worked in other club before sharks (not remember which).
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2688843]For some guys, it's all a part of the illusion of "girlfriend experience" sex with the young women of their wet dreams from the days of their own youth gone by. As long as she pulls it off, without them ever knowing the truth about her real age (thus destroying the illusion), then everybody is happy.[/QUOTE]Some at school couldn't get girlfriend, I remember at 14/16 yo, kissing for hours. At my time, not often sex so young, but hours of tongue soup. Sometimes can read: this one remind me when I was at school. To get what you couldn't at school, to cure frustration stuck deep inside. I'm not attracted and would feel uncomfortable with little girls look, when I'm excited by like normal woman looks and furthermore when charm and chic.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2688874]When I have for sure much more than 200 visits at Sharks, I saw on many times Cosmina sitting in couch with no business, even saw Evita if You know, and for sure girls don t ask same to Asians and Caucasians and also don t provide same. Asians are for easier and more expensive. Like in my business, some works make income to feed company, to pay credits, rent, materials, salaries and taxes, and some are extra.[/QUOTE]Correction: just around 200 visits, not much more, since 2014, when could have 3/4 visits weekly on 2016 when discovered Hessen superstar Katalina following her at Globe. Easy for a free bird not stuck to any club, but only interested by high level girls who usually don t speak much about money. Katalina never told about money, even when she became jealous at Globe because even busy superstar but I don't know how but she noticed I had longer rooms with ex Isabella, even I told her she was my first choice.
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2688555]My last visit at sharks 5 yrs ago, I got 50 euro for 30 min, all three ladies provided BBJ, DATY. But now it seems the rate went up quite a bit.
For this visit, I am trying to get some German girls (had a lot of Romanians lately.) I'm not so picky about look but am a big ass fan. LOL. So my questions are if German girls are normally around Friday afternoon and if girls are still offering the regular rate to start with (understand ymmv).
BTW, what would be the latest to leave for a9:30 evening flight? If I take a cab, how much would it cost ballpark? [/QUOTE]I welcome an Asian who is "not so picky about look but am a big ass fan. " So many Asians with stereotypical preferences (pretty and thin and small), this is unusual. You indeed should try the Germans. They're better fed than the Romanians. Unfortunately, Sharks and the whole FKK circuit, but Sharks especially, is Romanian. And Romanians tend to be little girl bodies.
Sharks lineup is the most extensive but you may also consider Palace, Mainhattan (in the city) and Oase (on the other side of the city, out of town though). You might have the best luck with more womanly bodies at Palace.
50 E five years ago is a long time ago. You may be upselled. I think it really depends on your vibe. Western-born Asians know better how to be assertive. Native Asians are very agreeable.
Someone more familiar with traffic may be able to advise you on leaving, but I would set aside 3 hours. If I leave from the city, I can leave my place 2 hours before the flight. It usually takes 1 hour by public transit (train), and I'm at the gate an hour before. FRA public transport is great. You may get caught up in traffic in a taxi, depending on the day of the week.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687812]
Two new girls, they still accept 100/60.
Annalisa, 19 yo, dyed blonde, vey skinny, tan skin. Two weeks in Sharks, 2 months in OASE, 4 months in Vienna. I gave her a zimmer on Thursday. 100/45 min. But we negotiated 100/60 before I took her to room.
Bianca, 22 yo, blonde, fair skin. 2 weeks in Sharks, new to business. She is nice but lacks business. 100/60 she agreed. I paid her 100 after 45 in room.[/QUOTE]Suspicions are that the girls are acting like a cabal and enforcing prices, so I wonder how long this will last. Certainly some of them read ISG, and word will get back to them. If anyone sees them subsequently, let us know. We can see how effective the cabal is.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]
Roxi is super busy. She even could not sat on the couch for 5 minutes. I believe all kinds of customers like her.
[/QUOTE]Roxy was recommended to me as GFE, which is true. That's probably why she's popular. Quiet, nice, easy-going. She's one that I could believe enjoys her work, not like the over-the-top sexuality of some who are more for show.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2689164]Roxy was recommended to me as GFE, which is true. That's probably why she's popular. Quiet, nice, easy-going. She's one that I could believe enjoys her work, not like the over-the-top sexuality of some who are more for show.[/QUOTE]Yes, Roxi under fish seems quiet, lovely and probably sweet, but no dream for the look, even natural, which is good point, but I need much prettier, to desire. I also need much more charm than Cosmina but she would be in the average lack of charm now at Globe.
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I don't have that kind of MILF taste. MILFs should pay me 150/60 if They want a room with me.
I prefer to pay higher price for those (20 yo), pretty and fresh girls, Even if their service were mediocre level.
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There are still a few WGs accept 50/30 min. Usually those have worked many years in Sharks, relatively aged, more tattoos, relatively tanned skin, heavily makeup, silicone, etc. You could easily spot these providers.
Of course they don't fit my taste.
So I have to pay 100/30 or 150/60 for fresh sweet white girls.
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[QUOTE=Taktak712;2689082]Anyone know if April is still in Sharks?
I have met her in 2019 and had no chance to visit sharks after that but I will visit in May.
She was small and skinny style girl, German / Turkey mix.
She said she worked in other club before sharks (not remember which).[/QUOTE]She's gone as far as I know. Didn't see her at Sharks during any of my visits this year and haven't heard of anyone else seeing her recently. Too bad, because she was great. Tight cutie that I enjoyed 69'ing and I once had an unforgettable extra naughty session with her at LR, where she worked before Sharks under the name Celine. I think she may have worked at GT on occasion too.
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Saturday 4/23/22
Fewer girls tonight but most famous girls are still working there especially UncleOx favorite girls (Refer to his previous postings).
50€ Good old days are long gone and so far all girls I asked all 30/100 and 60/150. Still fine if girls can provide decent service with recent rate. Per UncleOx he seems to get decent service.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2689346]Fewer girls tonight but most famous girls are still working there especially UncleOx favorite girls (Refer to his previous postings).
50 Good old days are long gone and so far all girls I asked all 30/100 and 60/150. Still fine if girls can provide decent service with recent rate. Per UncleOx he seems to get decent service.[/QUOTE]Please introduce your favorite Teodora. She is very beautiful, I know.
I didn't have time to take her because spending too much on Julia and Mara.
I might take Teodora next time if Her attitude is good.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2689362]Please introduce your favorite Teodora. She is very beautiful, I know.
I didn't have time to take her because spending too much on Julia and Mara.
I might take Teodora next time if Her attitude is good.[/QUOTE]Same level for kissing than Julia? In my whole life, when I had NL, French Swiss, German, UK who kiss like crazy, half French half Portuguese and many French of course, girlfriends, none never kissed me with love, but for hours, mixing our saliva, like drinking cyprine. No kissing is just low level not worthing to pay, when I see more wow look women in Paris streets than at Sharks or Globe.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2689161]Suspicions are that the girls are acting like a cabal and enforcing prices, so I wonder how long this will last. Certainly some of them read ISG, and word will get back to them. If anyone sees them subsequently, let us know. We can see how effective the cabal is.[/QUOTE]Yes, many Sharks girls and same at Globe, read here and me white wolf. My advice for them is they should not if they don t want to be hurt by some words, when they are not able to understand words are about their brothel image and behavior, not about the woman they are outside which doesn't interest me and not my fault if they only live through their image. I know image is important for most women who want to be seductive, but normal women also have other things to build their life. About my yesterday experience at 6 NL when I judge Sharks not really attractive casting on this year, when I'm not Asian to run after little Romanians not able to kiss, I was really happy when I saw more elegant and prettier than at Sharks, I discovered this so sweet GFE really French kissing with tenderness on October for 100/60, but yesterday she tried to sell me shit prostate massage or COB or CIM because she wanted 150/60, I don't like standard price she said, so no more room with me, when so sweet GFE fell becoming proctologue. Found another interesting girl who prefer women, interesting game, we didn't speak about money, club rate 110/60. May repeat if no more wow looks, when past sweet GFE would be one of the prettiest and most elegant at Sharks but not wow look enough to worth 150/60, when love sex is the most worthy for me, rather than shit extras to fuck clients. So, she lost to make a regular, she could sit in couch or go smoking or wait for drinking, late night clients, or she should return to GT Vienna where GFE rate is 200/60.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2689292]She's gone as far as I know. Didn't see her at Sharks during any of my visits this year and haven't heard of anyone else seeing her recently. Too bad, because she was great. Tight cutie that I enjoyed 69'ing and I once had an unforgettable extra naughty session with her at LR, where she worked before Sharks under the name Celine. I think she may have worked at GT on occasion too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info though the info is unfortunate.
Yes, she was really great. Her looks is the best ever for me in any FKK and attitude and play was also great so I want to meet her again but seems less chance now.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2689362]Please introduce your favorite Teodora. She is very beautiful, I know.
I didn't have time to take her because spending too much on Julia and Mara.
I might take Teodora next time if Her attitude is good.[/QUOTE]" spending too much on Julia and Mara. ".
Could you please elaborate more detail?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2689287]There are still a few WGs accept 50/30 min. Usually those have worked many years in Sharks, relatively aged, more tattoos, relatively tanned skin, heavily makeup, silicone, etc. You could easily spot these providers.
Of course they don't fit my taste.
So I have to pay 100/30 or 150/60 for fresh sweet white girls.[/QUOTE]This is becoming problem at Sharks: some girls who are not even wow look and mediocre not kissing level in bed, think they can ask 100/30 and at least 150/60 or more and tips, because they know they can do what they want with not demanding Asians, reason why Sharks is starting falling, less crowded and not only at night because of Ramadan, because quality of girls is falling, when they want more expensive, when we can t count on Asians to improve girls quality or sexual performances but more small pussies. Same is happening than in 2017/2019, when Sharks was on quite good level on 2021 without Asians. But when you know a bit FKK land, not only Sharks nor only falling Globe in Switzerland, still good other places with higher level girls for less expensive.
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Hi guys,
We want to check out FKK sharks in a couple of weeks. What day would you recommend us to go? Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
How are the prices and the girls in general? Are there a lot of girls?
I have already read through the forum a little bit but it would be nice if I get some of you guys to give me answers to my questions.
Thanks in advance! And well see us in a couple of weeks: the.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2686658]19 yo very pretty and skinny girl. About 156 cm. New Melody-type or Tessa-type girl. Very shy. Very tight. She is the friend of Anastasia (now named Kathleen or Cathy). Always rejects 50 euros. She claimed 100 euro /30 min plus tips at least. 200/ hour sometimes. No kiss. She Understands English but have language barrier as Melody did. She told me she could speak German very well.
Those who like Melody would like her. It seems she was very busy even in Thursday when most girls were idle.
So anyway, new Melody (2019) or new Tessa (2019).[/QUOTE]First of all, thank you for your contributions.
For months we have been waiting for this.
However, I have a fundamental question. Julia really looks like Melody to you? What criteria?
Admittedly, Julia is one of the prettiest girls in Sharks right now. Although a perfectionist will say that his chin is a little too pronounced.
The difference between Julia and Melody is fragrant:
Julia has A cup, while Melody has a perfect be.
Julia has a flat hip, while Melody has a round hip.
Julia offers all kinds of extras, while those of Melody are very limited.
Julia has a lovely smile, while Melody smiles shyly.
I didn't ask Julia's age having confidence in your description, but it seems to me her skin is older for 19 years.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2689233]I don't have that kind of MILF taste. MILFs should pay me 150/60 if They want a room with me.
I prefer to pay higher price for those (20 yo), pretty and fresh girls, Even if their service were mediocre level.[/QUOTE]I have had some wonderful experiences with MILFs. Karina and her friend Leana both from Lithuania come to mind. Any sightings?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2689529]I have had some wonderful experiences with MILFs. Karina and her friend Leana both from Lithuania come to mind. Any sightings?[/QUOTE]In 30's women are usually so much higher level for sex than 18/20 yo little girls who know so few for sex. And for Romanians who are almost all small pussies, Romanian peste seem small size and not making their beloved girlfriend they sent to be fucked, discovering much about sex.
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It is your problem
I don't understand what do you mean "becoming problem."
I paid 150/60 min for young stunning girls. I don't like MILFs. MILF would NOT even get 50/30 from me. They should pay me if they want to go to room with me.
Since you like MILF, if a MILF "who are not even wow look and mediocre not kissing level in bed" asks 150/60 from you, then it is your own problem, not Asians problem.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2689473]This is becoming problem at Sharks: some girls who are not even wow look and mediocre not kissing level in bed, think they can ask 100/30 and at least 150/60 or more and tips, because they know they can do what they want with not demanding Asians, reason why Sharks is starting falling, less crowded and not only at night because of Ramadan, because quality of girls is falling, when they want more expensive, when we can t count on Asians to improve girls quality or sexual performances but more small pussies. Same is happening than in 2017/2019, when Sharks was on quite good level on 2021 without Asians. But when you know a bit FKK land, not only Sharks nor only falling Globe in Switzerland, still good other places with higher level girls for less expensive.[/QUOTE]
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Julia looks like Tessa of 2019
Good comparison of Julia vs. Melody.
I didn't say Julia look like Melody. I just said she is Melody-typed girl. Young, fresh, shy, tender, and very pretty.
Julia did look like a girl in Sharks before. It is Tessa, who was in Sharks around October 2019-February 2020.
Tessa became my most favorite girl after Melody disappeared.
Tessa just turned 19 when I met her. Same age as current Julia.
This trip to Sharks was actually for seeking Tessa. But she would not come back anymore. Then I spot Julia. I spent so much on Julia because I considered Julia as lovely Tessa.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2689485]First of all, thank you for your contributions.
For months we have been waiting for this.
However, I have a fundamental question. Julia really looks like Melody to you? What criteria?
Admittedly, Julia is one of the prettiest girls in Sharks right now. Although a perfectionist will say that his chin is a little too pronounced.
The difference between Julia and Melody is fragrant:
Julia has A cup, while Melody has a perfect be.
Julia has a flat hip, while Melody has a round hip.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2689583]In 30's women are usually so much higher level for sex than 18/20 yo little girls who know so few for sex. And for Romanians who are almost all small pussies, Romanian peste seem small size and not making their beloved girlfriend they sent to be fucked, discovering much about sex.[/QUOTE]Well peak hormonal age for women is 29, and then it dips on either side of that age. While for men it is something like 19.
But 'little girls', or the fun size ones usually have more energy per square. Just like female hill climbers in cross country or even cycling are always petite. Or female gymnastics athletes. Because they can spin more on a shorter axis. Same logic in bed, thus we call them spinners. But can just as well find a spinner aged 29 then.
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My style
Thanks for suggesting other potential places to check out! I never thought of them before. I don't find small / slim Romanians are my type. I like those tall and / or busty MILF type. Women have big thighs. Which one (sharks, Palace, Mainhattan and Oase) do I have a better chance for this type of ladies?
I think sex is only one part of FKK experience, I also enjoy talking bullshit with girls there and with us fellow mongers. I have been in Sharks, Samya, Artemis, golden times. My routine is to have some small talk bullshit with girls approaching me and touch them lightly. If they are OK, I grab their asses too. I only mention the price until they suggest to get a room. If they tell me something not a house price, then I'd politely tell them I only have 30 min session at house price with a girl first time I meet. They either walk away or accept it. For girls asking to go to room without any desire to have a conversation, I just tell them I'm resting and not ready.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2689160]I welcome an Asian who is "not so picky about look but am a big ass fan. " So many Asians with stereotypical preferences (pretty and thin and small), this is unusual. You indeed should try the Germans. They're better fed than the Romanians. Unfortunately, Sharks and the whole FKK circuit, but Sharks especially, is Romanian. And Romanians tend to be little girl bodies. I think Sirioja has ranted about this before..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2689693]Good comparison of Julia vs. Melody.
I didn't say Julia look like Melody. I just said she is Melody-typed girl. Young, fresh, shy, tender, and very pretty.
Julia did look like a girl in Sharks before. It is Tessa, who was in Sharks around October 2019-February 2020.
Tessa became my most favorite girl after Melody disappeared.
Tessa just turned 19 when I met her. Same age as current Julia.
This trip to Sharks was actually for seeking Tessa. But she would not come back anymore. Then I spot Julia. I spent so much on Julia because I considered Julia as lovely Tessa.[/QUOTE]So Julia is Tessa 2. 0 instead of Melody 2. 0. Julia is actually more experienced than Melody and not a shy girl.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2689740]Well peak hormonal age for women is 29, and then it dips on either side of that age. While for men it is something like 19.
But 'little girls', or the fun size ones usually have more energy per square. Just like female hill climbers in cross country or even cycling are always petite. Or female gymnastics athletes. Because they can spin more on a shorter axis. Same logic in bed, thus we call them spinners. But can just as well find a spinner aged 29 then.[/QUOTE]Always figures but better to know FKK, when 19 yo guys are just rabbit knowing nothing about women. 19 yo girls will be burned very fast if they are busy, reason why small pussies little girls go for Asian business to save vagina. Even 180 supermodel Miss Sharks had her mind and vagina losing freshness after less than 1 month, when I had twice 1 hour with her per visit when she was fresh on past July. I'm happy with my 40 yo real woman telling me: You are good size, not arching back like cat which make me feel uncomfortable. On long intense rooms, I touch my sex machine lovely deep Rhur 26 yo German vagina limit, exhausting her from her orgasms with squirting giving me shower in bed, can t simulate for this, but on Friday night, even always lovely, but not in best shape after her blood infection and necrosis from poison from a bad tattoo, so I preferred not to return to her on Saturday, I will give her a bit of time to recover more healthy look when a bit uncomfortable to see her like this and even else. But she was a so great pleasure for let s have love as she says. Just missing a bit of charm and elegance, few Romanian woman types have.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2689685]I don't understand what do you mean "becoming problem."
I paid 150/60 min for young stunning girls. I don't like MILFs. MILF would NOT even get 50/30 from me. They should pay me if they want to go to room with me.
Since you like MILF, if a MILF "who are not even wow look and mediocre not kissing level in bed" asks 150/60 from you, then it is your own problem, not Asians problem.[/QUOTE]Becoming problem is falling girls quality for more expensive when Asian business. On 2021, I visited weekly my good girls. Unfortunately, my best most elegant who was for 100/60 is missing and supermodel lost freshness, so only 2 visits on 2022 and I won't rush for little Romanians with no charm, when some in 30's when they have still fresh body, have so much more charm. As I read, since at least 2014, Cosmina should not be so far from 30, but not the worst body at Sharks, when some younger have belly. Other big miss for those who know a bit about Sharks is great Cena with fresh natural body, beautiful eyes and high potential, at least for GFE with me. Sharks need this level of quality for girls, not no kissing low level for 150/60 or more who are just for Asians or old Germans who want to play with doll, but not women.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2689766]So Julia is Tessa 2. 0 instead of Melody 2. 0. Julia is actually more experienced than Melody and not a shy girl.[/QUOTE]That's totally my point of view. Julia is a type of the girl of Adriana's group (under the aquarium), that is to say a pretty skinny girl with whom it is easy to chat (except for one). The mix of shyness and sexy body is unique to Melody.
Julia doesn't hesitate to chase men even though she doesn't need to do it often. She hunts very well. Julia always asks for a tip, Melody does not.
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2689758]Thanks for suggesting other potential places to check out! I never thought of them before. I don't find small / slim Romanians are my type. I like those tall and / or busty MILF type. Women have big thighs. Which one (sharks, Palace, Mainhattan and Oase) do I have a better chance for this type of ladies?
I think sex is only one part of FKK experience, I also enjoy talking bullshit with girls there and with us fellow mongers. I have been in Sharks, Samya, Artemis, golden times. My routine is to have some small talk bullshit with girls approaching me and touch them lightly. If they are OK, I grab their asses too. I only mention the price until they suggest to get a room. If they tell me something not a house price, then I'd politely tell them I only have 30 min session at house price with a girl first time I meet. They either walk away or accept it. For girls asking to go to room without any desire to have a conversation, I just tell them I'm resting and not ready.[/QUOTE]To touch girls in lounge, Bab and Finca may be better than little girls at Sharks. I prefer Sharks when I hate girls trying to touch my dick in lounge. Not too bad porn or prostitutes images at Sharks, better for my mind than Globe now porn theater with contest for rabbits. I just need only one high level girl and then if she wants, I will go to her weekly, as I always do when I succeed to find one attractive and on my standards. So I did on 2021. Come back elegant with charm ladyT with beautiful green / grey eyes and natural long hair.
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[QUOTE=NotSavvy;2689801]That's totally my point of view. Julia is a type of the girl of Adriana's group (under the aquarium), that is to say a pretty skinny girl with whom it is easy to chat (except for one). The mix of shyness and sexy body is unique to Melody.
Julia doesn't hesitate to chase men even though she doesn't need to do it often. She hunts very well. Julia always asks for a tip, Melody does not.[/QUOTE]" Julia always asks for a tip".
Is it because some rich customer like UncleOx always gives her tip?
My personal opinion tip is "OK" but have to depend on girl's quality of service instead of just "giving" to her.
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Julia didn't ask tips from me. Neither surcharge me. 150/60 minutes is club standard rate.
As I remember that Tessa never asked tips from me either.
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Asians make lineup better
I don't understand your logic that Asians affected lineups.
For Asians or rich Germans pay 100 Euro /30, or 150 euro /60 to fresh pretty girls.
Then more and more pretty will be attracted to Sharks. The girls quality should be better.
You favor Older one, you pay 50/30 to MILFs (40 yo Hungarian mom as you described) or tattoos tan fat old WGs. No competition between us, No conflict between us.
On the other, if your inferior ladies requested 100/30 or 150/60, then they will soon be out of business because you guys only want to pay 50/30, and Asians would never choose them whatever they charge. Not Asians problem.
So either way, Asians and rich German will make lineup better.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2689789]Becoming problem is falling girls quality for more expensive when Asian business. On 2021, I visited weekly my good girls. Unfortunately, my best most elegant who was for 100/60 is missing and supermodel lost freshness, so only 2 visits on 2022 and I won't rush for little Romanians with no charm, when some in 30's when they have still fresh body, have so much more charm. As I read, since at least 2014, Cosmina should not be so far from 30, but not the worst body at Sharks, when some younger have belly. Other big miss for those who know a bit about Sharks is great Cena with fresh natural body, beautiful eyes and high potential, at least for GFE with me. Sharks need this level of quality for girls, not no kissing low level for 150/60 or more who are just for Asians or old Germans who want to play with doll, but not women.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2689951]" Julia always asks for a tip".
Is it because some rich customer like UncleOx always gives her tip?
My personal opinion tip is "OK" but have to depend on girl's quality of service instead of just "giving" to her.[/QUOTE]Yes, tip for not kissing, when some fluently French kissed for only 100/60 on 2021 , maybe only for Caucasians able to make them feel woman, when they were I m pretty sure at least as pretty as new Romanian little girls and prettier than Teodora or Roxy or Cosmina.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2689951]" Julia always asks for a tip".
Is it because some rich customer like UncleOx always gives her tip?
My personal opinion tip is "OK" but have to depend on girl's quality of service instead of just "giving" to her.[/QUOTE]You accused me irrationally? It is unfriendly.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2689777]Always figures but better to know FKK, when 19 yo guys are just rabbit knowing nothing about women. 19 yo girls will be burned very fast if they are busy, reason why small pussies little girls go for Asian business to save vagina. Even 180 supermodel Miss Sharks had her mind and vagina losing freshness after less than 1 month, when I had twice 1 hour with her per visit when she was fresh on past July. I'm happy with my 40 yo real woman telling me: You are good size, not arching back like cat which make me feel uncomfortable. On long intense rooms, I touch my sex machine lovely deep Rhur 26 yo German vagina limit, exhausting her from her orgasms with squirting giving me shower in bed, can t simulate for this, but on Friday night, even always lovely, but not in best shape after her blood infection and necrosis from poison from a bad tattoo, so I preferred not to return to her on Saturday, I will give her a bit of time to recover more healthy look when a bit uncomfortable to see her like this and even else. But she was a so great pleasure for let s have love as she says. Just missing a bit of charm and elegance, few Romanian woman types have.[/QUOTE]Well, it is probably individual, but I noticed there was an age difference a few years back when it came to how many girls claiming my dick was too big. 23 years and up, that almost never happened. But 22 years and below, and I could hear it maybe 30% of the time. But interestingly, it didn't really change much between let's say 19 and 21. But how long they had worked in a club was the difference. Yet from 23 and up, and even new girls never minded. Individual factors are big here for both guy and girl though.
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Asian Factor
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2690013]I don't understand your logic that Asians affected lineups. So either way, Asians and rich German will make lineup better.[/QUOTE]In my estimation, a large Asian clientele makes FKK line-ups worse because far too many Asian customers overpay for substandard service in return. This hurts everybody as it instills and rewards poor prostitute performance.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2690035]You accused me irrationally? It is unfriendly.[/QUOTE]It is actually a question not a statement.
It is great you explained here.
By the way I don't even know who's is UncleOx 🤔.
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In Sharks, about 80% of WGs are NOT fuckable for Asians, as I estimated.
These providers are usually relatively senior (MILFs), much tattoos, heavily makeup, over-weight, tanned skin with / without pungent odor due to heavily smoking, mediocre looking, etc. Majority of them still provide 50/30 basic service. Of course they might charge Asians 100/30 or more, but unfortunately they barely could get Asians business.
The rest of 20% in prime list are usually relatively young, good-looking, white, pretty, less tattoos on body, slim, good hygiene, etc. These women usually charge 100/30 or 150/60 to any customers not limited to Asians. However because Asians almost focus on these WGs, these providers then become so called Asians-hunters.
Why cheap Charlies have grudge against Asians?
Because The 80% the inferior are not only unfuckabke for Asians, but also unfuckable for cheap charlies as well. Cheap Charlies don't want to pay fair rate to top girls, while Asians would like to. That's it.
Someone considers the Asians-hunters are not top girls. Good. Then why are you angry against Asians?
You can pick your top girls which are unfuckabke-for-Asian (80% of WGs in Sharks) and pay them 50/30.
Asians choose their "top" girls and pay them 100/30.
Fair play.
Asian customers improve lineup because more good-looking girls are attracted to club because they could earn more.
Cheap Charlies will make lineup worse.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2690079]In my estimation, a large Asian clientele makes FKK line-ups worse because far too many Asian customers overpay for substandard service in return. This hurts everybody as it instills and rewards poor prostitute performance.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;2690020]Yes, tip for not kissing, when some fluently French kissed for only 100/60 on 2021 , maybe only for Caucasians able to make them feel woman, when they were I m pretty sure at least as pretty as new Romanian little girls and prettier than Teodora or Roxy or Cosmina.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2689972]Julia didn't ask tips from me. Neither surcharge me. 150/60 minutes is club standard rate.
As I remember that Tessa never asked tips from me either.[/QUOTE]But you wrote you spent 900 with tips tips tips for 5 hours with not kissing, 158 bare feet, Julia. Arithmetic's mistake? When 150 more for her low level for sex. As far I got information, Teodora is also not a kisser. My tip is to repeat, but only for high level, meaning French kissing, girls. I repeated weekly for months with many and even at Sharks on 2021.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2690067]Well, it is probably individual, but I noticed there was an age difference a few years back when it came to how many girls claiming my dick was too big. 23 years and up, that almost never happened. But 22 years and below, and I could hear it maybe 30% of the time. But interestingly, it didn't really change much between let's say 19 and 21. But how long they had worked in a club was the difference. Yet from 23 and up, and even new girls never minded. Individual factors are big here for both guy and girl though.[/QUOTE]I would say almost all girls under 25 find little elephant too big, when not so often with in 30's and I never heard this before with my real life girlfriends but no Romanian. They would have made me feel so uncomfortable and stressed not to hurt them. With my deep Rhur 26 yo DE and my 40 yo at Gold who is prettier with much more charm than little Romanians, I can relax while fucking, not having to control all not to hurt, like I needed to do for months with some regulars when feeling their reactions. Would have been shameful for me if I hurt them. Maybe why they repeated so often despite too big.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2690013]I don't understand your logic that Asians affected lineups.
For Asians or rich Germans pay 100 Euro /30, or 150 euro /60 to fresh pretty girls.
Then more and more pretty will be attracted to Sharks. The girls quality should be better.
You favor Older one, you pay 50/30 to MILFs (40 yo Hungarian mom as you described) or tattoos tan fat old WGs. No competition between us, No conflict between us.
On the other, if your inferior ladies requested 100/30 or 150/60, then they will soon be out of business because you guys only want to pay 50/30, and Asians would never choose them whatever they charge. Not Asians problem..[/QUOTE]But real facts are almost all FKK, not only stuck at Sharks, regulars and I may be the pickiest used to get the prettiest in all clubs I visit, think Sharks casting on beginning of 2022 is not on 2021 level, when few top girls are missing, and average girls ask for too expensive. I would run to my 40 yo Hungarian elegance and freshness for sex, far higher level than not kissing little Romanians, if she was at Sharks. I paid 150/60 for elected Miss Sharks on 2021 when she was fresh face and GFE, when she is not a little Romanian look but supermodel, but we may not have same eyes. My meaning is overpaying and not demanding Asians make fall level of girls to just easy business for expensive and they won t make improve looks when they run to any fake looking like porn blond. Cosmina understood this long time ago. From my little weekly all over FKK land experience, I saw highest level girls don't run only Asian easy business and I wish on May after Orthodox Easter for some woman type looks, not only little Romanians for Asians, when I miss one and I wish she will return, when I was really not impressed by casting on my 2 visits on this year compare to her elegant woman look. Only 130 mn room with elegant Marta ex Palace but she was fast to cum so 30 mn were enough with her. If still same on next visit after my ski tour, then now I can speed to Dortmund with now more than 600000 kms old lady with original improved engine still breathing like a baby, to my DE for full intense GFE vampires sex on late night. I wish she will look healthier on next time when she likes I finish her night between 3 and 5 am. Not only Sharks and competing with Balkanians in deep Rhur, but I m very self confident for powerful for sex.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2690092]It is actually a question not a statement.
It is great you explained here.
By the way I don't even know who's is UncleOx.[/QUOTE]The simple observation shows a clear evolution of Julia in such a short time. She wears makeup well, very smiling and hunts customers. The basic service includes the kissing (for 150/1 h). And she has all kinds of extras she offers. Customers leave the room with a smile.
This type of maximum profitability can also be seen in her couch friends. Perhaps Julia learned by them immediately how she can get the most profit from this job. Either way, she is indisputably one of the prettiest of the moment. I recommend Julie for the rich GFE / PSE fans, but not for fans of Melody who have remained very shy for a long time.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2689777]...... not in best shape after her blood infection and necrosis from poison from a bad tattoo.....[/QUOTE]Are there really guys who like tattoos on a woman? Why do girls do this to themselves?
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Tattoos
[QUOTE=Turgid;2690301]Are there really guys who like tattoos on a woman? Why do girls do this to themselves?[/QUOTE]I don't mind a tastefully placed tattoo here or there (yes, I believe it's possible to do it tastefully). But then, one can go overboard with them too, like the Brazilian porn star Elisa Sanches (butt fucked her twice in Rio).
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2690301]Are there really guys who like tattoos on a woman? Why do girls do this to themselves?[/QUOTE]Many guys are excited by vulgarity and porn images, when I hate silicon and tattoos, being so happy when I see a virgin body. I argue with my girls who want to put silicon or big tattoos, telling them I will stop to go with them, but so many girls have problems about their woman image due to this business and its culture. Pity to see how many girls degrade their body. On last Friday, waking up at 5 am, working whole day, blocked for 2 hours in traffic to leave Paris, a nightmare between Kaarst and Dortmund, but great welcome when I arrived being exhausted and she made fast free for me and always lovely and I thank her for this, but when I made this effort for a sunshine at night, I found her just after poisoned blood and still necrosis on end of fingers because of new color for tattoo. She was as always lovely and willing to please but I felt too much her tiredness, so I didn't return on Saturday. I don t drive like this to see such deep Germany misery. I will let her a bit of time to recover healthier, but I don t forget our great times and her behavior for me among her busy business, since 2 months. With her, I had new experience like Jimi Hendrix, when I usually don t learn much in brothels, but more seeing girls looking at me with round eyes when they never experienced my way.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2690168]But you wrote you spent 900 with tips tips tips for 5 hours with not kissing, 158 bare feet, Julia. Arithmetic's mistake? When 150 more for her low level for sex. As far I got information, Teodora is also not a kisser. My tip is to repeat, but only for high level, meaning French kissing, girls. I repeated weekly for months with many and even at Sharks on 2021.[/QUOTE]Please see my previous post.
[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687768]Julia didn't ask tips. I was willing to give her.
If some mongers feel she is too expensive, then try to find cheaper one in Sharks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2690336]I don't mind a tastefully placed tattoo here or there (yes, I believe it's possible to do it tastefully). But then, one can go overboard with them too, like the Brazilian porn star Elisa Sanches (butt fucked her twice in Rio).[/QUOTE]I m really not specialist about tattoos but my deep Rhur German explained me now new rule in Germany for the use of colors for tattoos and her blood was infected from these new kind of colors. She took 15 pills per day for 3 weeks to recover and she really tired while our sex. More dangerous than when I free ride or speed on autobahns legal parts. She also want to put not silicon but kind of acid, new technique, for her tits, when they are perfect as I show her in my hands, with her nipples hardening. I love them.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2690162]In Sharks, about 80% of WGs are NOT fuckable for Asians, as I estimated.
These providers are usually relatively senior (MILFs), much tattoos, heavily makeup, over-weight, tanned skin with / without pungent odor due to heavily smoking, mediocre looking, etc. Majority of them still provide 50/30 basic service. Of course they might charge Asians 100/30 or more, but unfortunately they barely could get Asians business.
The rest of 20% in prime list are usually relatively young, good-looking, white, pretty, less tattoos on body, slim, good hygiene, etc. These women usually charge 100/30 or 150/60 to any customers not limited to Asians. However because Asians almost focus on these WGs, these providers then become so called Asians-hunters..[/QUOTE]If you think I'm cheap when I spent 500 € for some rooms with some Globe girls and 12 150/60 rooms with elected Miss Sharks on 2021, with 2 rooms per visit when she was fresh, but I only pay for girls who have the look and GFE really kissing, not for low level.
Asians won't improve casting nor level of girls. Sharks was higher level on 2021 without Asians, like it fell on 2017 when many Asians arrived.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2690301]Are there really guys who like tattoos on a woman? Why do girls do this to themselves?[/QUOTE]Posting questions like to this forum made up of 40 and 50 year old men will not yield any answers of value, because there exists a generational disconnect here. Go speak to your nephew or niece.
"Men were more likely than women to report a tattoo, but the [B]highest rates of tattooing were found among women in their 20s (29.4%)[/B]. Men and women ages 20-39 were most likely to have been tattooed, as were men with lower levels of education, tradesmen, and women with live-out partners. " [URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22153289/#:~:text=Men%20were%20more%20likely%20than,women%20with%20live%2Dout%20partners.[/URL].
If the above is representative, then we have to assume that most younger men, even if they do not prefer tattoos on women, have learned to tolerate or accept them.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2690162]In Sharks, about 80% of WGs are NOT fuckable for Asians, as I estimated.
These providers are usually relatively senior (MILFs), much tattoos, heavily makeup, over-weight, tanned skin with / without pungent odor due to heavily smoking, mediocre looking, etc. Majority of them still provide 50/30 basic service. Of course they might charge Asians 100/30 or more, but unfortunately they barely could get Asians business.
The rest of 20% in prime list are usually relatively young, good-looking, white, pretty, less tattoos on body, slim, good hygiene, etc. These women usually charge 100/30 or 150/60 to any customers not limited to Asians. However because Asians almost focus on these WGs, these providers then become so called Asians-hunters.
Why cheap Charlies have grudge against Asians?.[/QUOTE]LOL. Quite an ego trip you have in there. Must be nice to live in a headspace where the Venn Diagram has just luxury seeking, rich Asians and Cheap Charlie's. You must not have seen the busloads of Asians landing at Oase en masse. I'm sorry, I have seen them squabbling over even 50, taking a max one or two simple sessions, being made fun of by girls, yes for being cheap; I have even seen a couple of Asian dudes punched by the security and thrown out; Asian guys borrowing from each other to pay the 50 or 100 to the girls, and so on. Sorry bud, not all Asians are rich, not even all the Asians visiting the clubs are.
Yes, you do see some occasional Asian whales and some guys who like to throw money around to feel good about themselves but a majority of them are normal spenders like everyone else. Where the stereotype comes in is that some of them yield too easily to pushy girls, pay more than prevailing rate for goodies because (a) they don't know the price or (b) they cower too quick and don't argue back due to language issues or fear of talking back; that, and certain conceptions about size; a few girls claimed they will offer anal only to Asians. Make what you will of it but I heard some of my girls tell me so, and they were not necessarily Asian hunters.
I'd also differentiate between the Asians born and raised in the west (or living here for many years) and the fresh off the boat Asians visiting FKKs rarely. The latter seem to come in groups while the former visit by themselves or occasionally with a friend, and are more sure of themselves. Asian hunters typically look for the former. The attraction is not so much that they spend hours and hours giving bountiful tips but that they can be easily duped on price, a couple of easy extras tagged or even aggressively foisted on them which the Asians will not argue back, and most importantly processed quickly in the room. This phenomenon used to be particularly obvious during messe times and I was unfortunate to visit a few times during such events.
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Asian ruined the club
I visited the Sharks, some weeks ago. The girl do not accept 50 E /30 minutes for regular sex.
All wanted 100 E /30 minutes, I asked them the reason. They said Asians pay well.
I am OK to pay 100 E /30 for GFE for a good girl not for ever kind of girl.
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Cheap Charlies?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2690399]If you think I'm cheap when I spent 500 for some rooms with some Globe girls and 12 150/60 rooms with elected Miss Sharks on 2021, with 2 rooms per visit when she was fresh, but I only pay for girls who have the look and GFE really kissing, not for low level.
Asians won't improve casting nor level of girls. Sharks was higher level on 2021 without Asians, like it fell on 2017 when many Asians arrived.[/QUOTE]He knows not of whom he speaks LOL! A standard session for me is one hour with BBBJ / CIM and anal. And I'm normally willing to do around three sessions per club visit if I can find three tutes who I like. I often cannot, but I'm willing to go there if I can. So I [B]know[/B] he's not talking to me. And I'm not "angry" at Asian mongers. I just think that too many of them exhibit behaviors and accept things from the girls that don't instill and promote strong prostitute performance and respect for the customers who pay them their wages. And that hurts all of us who comprise the mongering body politic.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2690364]Please see my previous post.[/QUOTE]So you wanted to tip her expensive for not kissing you? When a girl tell me not kissing, I hear she doesn't like me, so I leave, I never insist, I never beg. In my country, at my time, no sex not starting with kissing, what I learned in real life with my girlfriends. At Swiss Dietikon few weeks ago, I turned a bit princess welcoming me coldly to furious passionate after DATY fingering with 4, then she put her tongue in my throat but her breathe was not the best, but really enjoyable to see my good job to turn her from cold welcome to fire in bed with her conclusion: You are a good person. Good job for good game when no silicon nor big tattoos.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2690451]then we have to assume that most younger men, even if they do not prefer tattoos on women, have learned to tolerate or accept them.[/QUOTE]Most, that's probably still the case, but perhaps not for all that much longer, especially amongst the less hoity toity crowd. These days I'm seeing more and more people who you wouldn't think would have an impressive tattoo having rather large ones in easily concealable areas.
The vast majority of the upper tier fitness girls I see in gyms across the United States from Texas to New York seem to have them. I can think of 3 female doctors off the top of my head who have them. I would roughly estimate 15-20 percent of the young nurses I see have them. And I'm seeing this in the upper middle class to upper class women. The numbers must be even more prevalent in the less affluent crowd.
Point is, the more commonplace it becomes, the more acceptable they'll become, and likely to the point of being more universally considered attractive. I mean, if various ethnic groups in Africa can come to find beauty in giant plug piercing on the earlobes, there's no reason tattoos couldn't eventually reach that status.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2690535]So you wanted to tip her expensive for not kissing you? When a girl tell me not kissing, I hear she doesn't like me, so I leave, I never insist, I never beg. In my country, at my time, no sex not starting with kissing, what I learned in real life with my girlfriends. At Swiss Dietikon few weeks ago, I turned a bit princess welcoming me coldly to furious passionate after DATY fingering with 4, then she put her tongue in my throat but her breathe was not the best, but really enjoyable to see my good job to turn her from cold welcome to fire in bed with her conclusion: You are a good person. Good job for good game when no silicon nor big tattoos.[/QUOTE]I agree with Siri on the issue of ZK. The issue is absolute. ZK can lead to a great appointment. Lack of ZK is a deal breaker, no repeat, ever. I would be curious to hear about other mongers' approach on the issue. Do you negotiate on the couch, or do you just go for it on the couch and test the waters? And which approach at which clubs? Given the role of Ro mafia et al.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2690495]He knows not of whom he speaks LOL! A standard session for me is one hour with BBBJ / CIM and anal. And I'm normally willing to do around three sessions per club visit if I can find three tutes who I like. I often cannot, but I'm willing to go there if I can. So I [B]know[/B] he's not talking to me. And I'm not "angry" at Asian mongers. I just think that too many of them exhibit behaviors and accept things from the girls that don't instill and promote strong prostitute performance and respect for the customers who pay them their wages. And that hurts all of us who comprise the mongering body politic.[/QUOTE]Asians come to spend twice per year, when I spend weekly, out of my holidays, since more than 9 years, when Zurich kanton salaries don't impress me much, but I m only interested by excellence for everything, when I hate to waste for average. When Asians just arrived from East, think they are lucky little Romanians go with them, so they are ready to pay anything, I think girls I choose are lucky I choose them and from how I treat them. I m not into CIM nor anal, but GFE with real kissing love sex. Tonight, since long time, met a great Russian escort in Paris just fallen from tupolev, when I was in FKK on last week end, I understood once more I was right to choose to be instructed in Russian when was still the wall, she seemed so happy and relax to speak in Russian, I got her tongue non stop all along in my mouth, what a passionate kisser. Putin is a bastard, but Russian girls are great.
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I agree!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2690775]Putin is a bastard, but Russian girls are great.[/QUOTE]And Ruskie girls are some damn good cornholers too! Right up there with the Brasilieras!
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[QUOTE=LoveGirls60;2690494]I visited the Sharks, some weeks ago. The girl do not accept 50 E /30 minutes for regular sex.
All wanted 100 E /30 minutes, I asked them the reason. They said Asians pay well.
I am OK to pay 100 E /30 for GFE for a good girl not for ever kind of girl.[/QUOTE]For a fresh natural real beauty with pretty face and good care for hair, light make up, shaving, nails, real GFE really kissing, I won't pay 100/30, but I could agree to pay 150/60 and repeat, but problem is Asians pay this for very average look little Romanians and low services like not kissing which is the most intimate for many girls who are not woman yet. Yesterday after work, long time I didn't go to escort, when I was too often disappointed in Paris, but when I answered I could speak in Russian, she was so happy like always with real Russians, she jumped to put her tongue in my mouth for all along, never stopping to deeply kiss and we went much over time, I learned her few French words, when little low level Romanians think they worth what Asians pay them. Oase girls killed their business upselling and now most often nobody at Oase. I visit only when good girls, when also other places and I already discovered 4 high level on this year, Daisi. Bu Diamond who is a real pornstar, met at Globe, really lovely, but only fourth for my ranking, when my 40 yo is the more woman.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2690812]And Ruskie girls are some damn good cornholers too! Right up there with the Brasilieras![/QUOTE]From child and even before being interested by women, I always loved Russia, maybe for mystery behind the wall, my parents thought I turned crazy when at 12, I told I wanted to learn Russian, now real opening door with Russian women who are the prettiest, even french and some Romanian women are also quite pretty. After Trump for US, we have to get rid of dirty Putin, but as I told my yesterday Russian escort, nothing about Russia when only his war raping and killing women and children, when he is just a small dick. I told her Ya lioubliou tibia and she kissed me so much, sometimes, despite being kissing lover, but I couldn't breathe with her tongue in my mouth, but long time I didn't find such wow level for escort in Paris. For sure, should repeat such fresh pleasure on week days after work, when would like so much to ski on this week end, despite avalanches.
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I'm thinking of visiting Sharks this weekend for the first time in a long time and I was wondering: will most girls already be back from Orthodox Easter, or do they tend to take more time off? Thanks a lot.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2690535]So you wanted to tip her expensive for not kissing you? When a girl tell me not kissing, I hear she doesn't like me, so I leave,.....[/QUOTE]Life is so weird. When I was a teenager the girls would kiss but no sex. We would kiss for hours until our lips burned, but no coitus. Now the girls want to fuck but no kissing, LOL.
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Ha!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2691049]Life is so weird. When I was a teenager the girls would kiss but no sex. We would kiss for hours until our lips burned, but no coitus. Now the girls want to fuck but no kissing, LOL.[/QUOTE]They been watching too many movies. Besides, they know by now no honey no money!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2691049]Life is so weird. When I was a teenager the girls would kiss but no sex. We would kiss for hours until our lips burned, but no coitus. Now the girls want to fuck but no kissing, LOL.[/QUOTE]Kissing is about intimacy I suppose. To paid sex workers, kissing means they are also selling some portion of themselves in a different way. They want to keep it very impersonal. To a tute, doggie banging with a condom is most impersonal while BBFS sex in mish with deep kissing is quite personal.
Did the tutes allow kissing when you were young?
In real life, most girls prefer blow job sans condom. There used to be some who would not blow you, period as they'd get grossed out. But those who did always preferred without condom. Blow job on a condom with all that rubbery smell must be terrible. But now in FKKs, BBBJ is a 50 to 100 upgrade.
I also don't get the ball licking and cum on boobs or face or com extras. Ball licking arguably should be easier than blow job unless dirty and hairy. I get some girls can be grossed out by cum anywhere their bodies but if they are not, CIM is not especially tough. In any case, in the clubs, they immediately spit out into a napkin and rinse their mouth right in the room itself. But even 8 years ago, when girls provided great service in a 50 with even lbs thrown in, CIM was always 50 extra, I. E that one single act was worth as much as the entire 30 min service. Was weird.
Cum on face can mess up her makeup, so that makes sense to me and some guys have such terrible aim, they get it in the hair too.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2691049]Life is so weird. When I was a teenager the girls would kiss but no sex. We would kiss for hours until our lips burned, but no coitus. Now the girls want to fuck but no kissing, LOL.[/QUOTE]Real kissing is the most difficult, intimate for most prostitutes, criteria to understand who are high level girls. Many guys like Balkanians don t kiss dirty prostitutes. When I see a girl as a dirty prostitute, I don t go to her, I even stopped with some falling to this level, when I love to kiss those who have woman images, when I run away from those telling: I don t sell love. I like my deep Rhur German telling: let s have love and so much kissing.
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If you were not an Asian, girls would not surcharge you
[QUOTE=LoveGirls60;2690494]All wanted 100 E /30 minutes, I asked them the reason. They said Asians pay well.[/QUOTE]So you must be the "Asian" who ruined club, accounting to what you wrote.
All girls wanted to surcharge you at 100/30 rate because "Asians pay well". So you are "Asian", otherwise girls would neither said so nor surcharged you.
According to Siri, even top girls won't surcharge a Caucasian nor ask tip to a Caucasian. Girls only bully Asians.
As I observed in my March visit,. There were 80% WGs unfuckable for Asians. These unfuckable ladies usually agreed 50/30 for basic service if you were not an Asian. However, if you were Asian, even if the ugliest or oldest WG will surcharge you at rate 150/60 or 100/30.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2687227]Im pretty sure she won't dare to ask tip to a Caucasian, when many just ask: don't go with other girls.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2691056]Kissing is about intimacy I suppose. To paid sex workers, kissing means they are also selling some portion of themselves in a different way. They want to keep it very impersonal. To a tute, doggie banging with a condom is most impersonal while BBFS sex in mish with deep kissing is quite personal.
Did the tutes allow kissing when you were young?
In real life, most girls prefer blow job sans condom. There used to be some who would not blow you, period as they'd get grossed out. But those who did always preferred without condom. Blow job on a condom with all that rubbery smell must be terrible. But now in FKKs, BBBJ is a 50 to 100 upgrade.
I also don't get the ball licking and cum on boobs or face or com extras. Ball licking arguably should be easier than blow job unless dirty and hairy. I get some girls can be grossed out by cum anywhere their bodies but if they are not, CIM is not especially tough. In any case, in the clubs, they immediately spit out into a napkin and rinse their mouth right in the room itself. But even 8 years ago, when girls provided great service in a 50 with even lbs thrown in, CIM was always 50 extra, I. E that one single act was worth as much as the entire 30 min service. Was weird..[/QUOTE]BBBJ is still and much more standard than real French kiss in Germany and at Sharks. Little Romanians never learned to kiss with their peste.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2690775]Asians come to spend twice per year, when I spend weekly, out of my holidays, since more than 9 years, when Zurich kanton salaries don't impress me much, but I m only interested by excellence for everything, when I hate to waste for average. When Asians just arrived from East, think they are lucky little Romanians go with them, so they are ready to pay anything, I think girls I choose are lucky I choose them and from how I treat them. I m not into CIM nor anal, but GFE with real kissing love sex. Tonight, since long time, met a great Russian escort in Paris just fallen from tupolev, when I was in FKK on last week end, I understood once more I was right to choose to be instructed in Russian when was still the wall, she seemed so happy and relax to speak in Russian, I got her tongue non stop all along in my mouth, what a passionate kisser. Putin is a bastard, but Russian girls are great.[/QUOTE]And I know some guys who are almost every day in brothels, but no jealousy, I'm only interested by my game, with now less free time, but it was more a problem for ski, also with bad snow. On a special day, I drove after work to my deep Rhur German, enjoyed her at night and returned to be at work on next day, nearly 1200 kms and her in 17 hours. Good run.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2691081]So you must be the "Asian" who ruined club, accounting to what you wrote.
All girls wanted to surcharge you at 100/30 rate because "Asians pay well". So you are "Asian", otherwise girls would neither said so nor surcharged you.
According to Siri, even top girls won't surcharge a Caucasian nor ask tip to a Caucasian. Girls only bully Asians.
As I observed in my March visit,. There were 80% WGs unfuckable for Asians. These unfuckable ladies usually agreed 50/30 for basic service if you were not an Asian. However, if you were Asian, even if the ugliest or oldest WG will surcharge you at rate 150/60 or 100/30.[/QUOTE]I wrote some girls don't ask same rate to all, when many ask more expensive to Asians, and yes, girls don't ask me tip. But I know, unfortunately, many average looks ask 100/30, when I got the most elegant with most charm for 100/60 for many real GFE rooms.
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Speak Russian to me!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2691011]I told her Ya lioubliou tibia and she kissed me so much, sometimes, despite being kissing lover, but I couldn't breathe with her tongue in my mouth.[/QUOTE]LOLOLOL! You crack me up! The last time I was with a Ruskie girl was at FKK Samya. I asked her to speak dirty Russian words to me in the room, and she did so with great enthusiasm, turning us both on so very, very much. I had to fuck that petite, pretty little "white Russian" even harder after that hahaha!
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2691081]So you must be the "Asian" who ruined club, accounting to what you wrote.
All girls wanted to surcharge you at 100/30 rate because "Asians pay well". So you are "Asian", otherwise girls would neither said so nor surcharged you.
According to Siri, even top girls won't surcharge a Caucasian nor ask tip to a Caucasian. Girls only bully Asians.
As I observed in my March visit,. There were 80% WGs unfuckable for Asians. These unfuckable ladies usually agreed 50/30 for basic service if you were not an Asian. However, if you were Asian, even if the ugliest or oldest WG will surcharge you at rate 150/60 or 100/30.[/QUOTE]I do not pay more than 50 E /30 minutes buddy.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2691204]LOLOLOL! You crack me up! The last time I was with a Ruskie girl was at FKK Samya. I asked her to speak dirty Russian words to me in the room, and she did so with great enthusiasm, turning us both on so very, very much. I had to fuck that petite, pretty little "white Russian" even harder after that hahaha![/QUOTE]Katea a bit reddish hair and milky skin at Samya? Who moved and became a star at Bruggen. My discovery with her for more than 4 hours for 350, but when she tried to sell extra to many, she never proposed me anal. Russian is so erotic sound in bed, when Romanian or German sounds are to kill libido. Some Romanians speak in Romanian when they lose control, funny but not erotic. We have to kill Putin, but I love his daughters. Funny Velbert and Samya girls became superstars at called highest level in Germany Bruggen, when just on higher level than long time girls.
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[QUOTE=LoveGirls60;2691248]I do not pay more than 50 E /30 minutes buddy.[/QUOTE]So, you have to look for lovely Roxana with cat eyes who doesn't need to put make up on her so beautiful eyes and she is as lovely as her eyes are beautiful, or Alina, or Sabrina, who should agree for 100/60, not sure for rabbit 50/30, not sure for Asians, when they are 3 of the most interesting at Sharks, not little Romanian babies. Maybe also Latvian Marina who is just exceptional for sex, making little Romanians just ridiculous compare to her level.
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Katea?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2691259]Katea a bit reddish hair and milky skin at Samya? Who moved and became a star at Bruggen. My discovery with her for more than 4 hours for 350, but when she tried to sell extra to many, she never proposed me anal. Russian is so erotic sound in bed, when Romanian or German sounds are to kill libido. Some Romanians speak in Romanian when they lose control, funny but not erotic. We have to kill Putin, but I love his daughters. Funny Velbert and Samya girls became superstars at called highest level in Germany Bruggen, when just on higher level than long time girls.[/QUOTE]I don't remember her name actually, but her hair was indeed kind of reddish / light brownish as I recall. And her skin was very milk white yes. She came to me at Samya while I was standing at the little bar (and she did not perform anal sex). And yes, sometimes the girls will start talking in their native tongue without realizing it. Lilia at FKK Artemis did that with me once. Started speaking in German. I said, "What"? She said, "Oh, I was speaking in German"! LOL! But for me, it's funny when the girls say things in English that sound funny to a native English speaker. My favorite funny of that sort is when a Romanian girls says to me, "I like fucking with you". Hahaha! LOLOLOL! I know what she means, but too funny!
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Women have more tattoos (in many countries)
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2690560]The vast majority of the upper tier fitness girls I see in gyms across the United States from Texas to New York seem to have them. I can think of 3 female doctors off the top of my head who have them. I would roughly estimate 15-20 percent of the young nurses I see have them. And I'm seeing this in the upper middle class to upper class women. The numbers must be even more prevalent in the less affluent crowd.[/QUOTE]Fitness girls or social media influencers, I would guess derive a large portion of their income from the younger demographics. And so getting tattoos may not hurt their bottom line. RE: Female doctors and young nurses, I would guess that estimate would be harder to derive, since many women might not feel comfortable revealing their tattoos in a professional setting. In the FKKs, we are always seeing the WGs fully or half-naked, and so the tattoos are more noticeable to us. Also, many WGs are from a lower class background where tattoos would be more prevalent, like you said.
In many countries, the percent of tattooed women exceeds the number of tattooed men. 49 percent of Italian women versus 47 percent of Italian men. The disparity is larger in Greece: 42 percent of Greek women versus 29 percent of Greek men. [URL]https://hardcoreitalians.blog/2020/08/14/italians-have-the-most-tattoos-out-of-any-country-%F0%9F%92%89-%F0%9F%98%B2/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2691530]I don't remember her name actually, but her hair was indeed kind of reddish / light brownish as I recall. And her skin was very milk white yes. She came to me at Samya while I was standing at the little bar (and she did not perform anal sex). And yes, sometimes the girls will start talking in their native tongue without realizing it. Lilia at FKK Artemis did that with me once. Started speaking in German. I said, "What"? She said, "Oh, I was speaking in German"! LOL! But for me, it's funny when the girls say things in English that sound funny to a native English speaker. My favorite funny of that sort is when a Romanian girls says to me, "I like fucking with you". Hahaha! LOLOLOL! I know what she means, but too funny![/QUOTE]Looks like famous half Russian and she was able to speak, Katea. Pretty sure she provided anal, but for sure not with me, when she loved so much money. My longest ever discovery, but speaking too much about money bored me.
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Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt when visiting Sharks fir a weekend? If so, where?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2691436]So, you have to look for lovely Roxana with cat eyes who doesn't need to put make up on her so beautiful eyes and she is as lovely as her eyes are beautiful, or Alina, or Sabrina, who should agree for 100/60, not sure for rabbit 50/30, not sure for Asians, when they are 3 of the most interesting at Sharks, not little Romanian babies. Maybe also Latvian Marina who is just exceptional for sex, making little Romanians just ridiculous compare to her level.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I am not Asian.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2691574]Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt when visiting Sharks fir a weekend? If so, where?[/QUOTE]I didn't the first time but have stayed at the Pallas hotel in Darmstadt the last 3 times I've gone (all before the pandemic). It's cheap and less than 10 min walk to Sharks.
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Yes to hotel
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2691574]Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt when visiting Sharks fir a weekend? If so, where?[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Moxy in Darmstadt when I visited Sharks, and I'm glad I did. You can technically walk to Sharks from the Moxy, but it's a long walk. Uber is super easy in that area so you can use that instead of walking.
The benefit of a hotel is having a place to rest up. You can even leave Sharks and come back without paying again (if it's the same day). Also, of course, Sharks isn't open 24 hours so you'll need some place to sleep when they're closed.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2691056].........Did the tutes allow kissing when you were young?......[/QUOTE]In the 70's I think it was the same as today.
I will share a secret. If you want DFK find a tute who is new to the business. I have always got deep throat kissing from tutes who have just started in the business. I remember being girls' first customer in her new found enterprise and it was like having sex with a girlfriend.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2691762]In the 70's I think it was the same as today.
I will share a secret. If you want DFK find a tute who is new to the business. I have always got deep throat kissing from tutes who have just started in the business. I remember being girls' first customer in her new found enterprise and it was like having sex with a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. I have been lucky enough to get hold of a few new girls in the clubs over the years, a handful even on their first or second days in the club (per their telling, no way to verify of course, and I found a few of them lied and were in the business for a few months already). Apart from the freshness, youth, prettiness and other such attributes that come from being newer, as you said the service levels may be untainted or uncorrupted due to not yet suffering months of abuse that naturally comes from this line of work.
One thing I noticed however is that like most other things in FKKs, such girls have become a rare (r) breed. Girls start new in the business of course but even the new ones have an edge of sharkiness that was not the case in the past. Perhaps the veteran girls especially the notorious Romie girl mafia catch the newcomers earlier than we do and indoctrinate them in the creed of providing less for more?
Or perhaps the training begins with lover boys and even in their villages before they ever set foot in Deutsche land?
Anyway that is my impression. Not sure if you agree.
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2691735]I didn't the first time but have stayed at the Pallas hotel in Darmstadt the last 3 times I've gone (all before the pandemic). It's cheap and less than 10 min walk to Sharks.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Pallas a few years back and it was OK.
Judging by Booking reviews it seems Dormero is not bad either and within walking distance.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2691762]In the 70's I think it was the same as today.
I will share a secret. If you want DFK find a tute who is new to the business. I have always got deep throat kissing from tutes who have just started in the business. I remember being girls' first customer in her new found enterprise and it was like having sex with a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I had great experiences discovering some long pour in business girls, like so sweet Alyssa at LR I never noticed at Bruggen, or Hessen legend Katalina 6 years after her start and more sophisticated elegant, but I would not have gone with her gypsy look at World, when I loved to make her crying about her life, I never beated her. Long time in business, but one day they see arriving a alien, then making free for him and once more with my full busy Rhur DE even not so long time but coming from strip in Dortmund. Today at Globe, I detected a very fresh Romanian just fallen from the truck, so shy on pole dance, really lovely, but even in Germany for 50/30, I would not repeat for such very average level for sex, even fluently french kissing, just normal for Globe rate, too expensive for quality there, 150 CHF /30, when not all Globe girls do and even one of the busiest.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2691081]So you must be the "Asian" who ruined club, accounting to what you wrote.
All girls wanted to surcharge you at 100/30 rate because "Asians pay well". So you are "Asian", otherwise girls would neither said so nor surcharged you.
According to Siri, even top girls won't surcharge a Caucasian nor ask tip to a Caucasian. Girls only bully Asians.
As I observed in my March visit,. There were 80% WGs unfuckable for Asians. These unfuckable ladies usually agreed 50/30 for basic service if you were not an Asian. However, if you were Asian, even if the ugliest or oldest WG will surcharge you at rate 150/60 or 100/30.[/QUOTE]Asian consumer behavior do not help with girls rates.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2691204]LOLOLOL! You crack me up! The last time I was with a Ruskie girl was at FKK Samya. I asked her to speak dirty Russian words to me in the room, and she did so with great enthusiasm, turning us both on so very, very much. I had to fuck that petite, pretty little "white Russian" even harder after that hahaha![/QUOTE]Russian at Samya? I think we all know who that is!! Is she still there by the way? Great girl!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2691762]In the 70's I think it was the same as today.
I will share a secret. If you want DFK find a tute who is new to the business. I have always got deep throat kissing from tutes who have just started in the business. I remember being girls' first customer in her new found enterprise and it was like having sex with a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Many mongers told me they have met a lot of girls who told them mongers: "I am brand new in the business, honey! You are my first customer, I like you very much. Please show me the DFK heaven!
Just to share a secret back.
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What's the best day to arrive if it's my first time? Saturday early afternoon? Is planning for a two day weekend too much?
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Ruskie Girl
[QUOTE=Pistons;2691877]Russian at Samya? I think we all know who that is!! Is she still there by the way? Great girl![/QUOTE]Siri said she moved to GT. Well, seeing that it burned down (so long discriminatory door practices), we can rest assured she's not there. The one I was with had great English language skills, as well as a great command of dirty Russian speech LOL!
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2691955]What's the best day to arrive if it's my first time? Saturday early afternoon? Is planning for a two day weekend too much?[/QUOTE]I like doing Friday evenings around 6 pm. But I do recall earlier times have a different line up.
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Sharks this week
Hi folks,
I'll be in Frankfurt this week for business (from Monday to Thursday) and possibly in the coming weeks as well.
I'd have a few requests / questions for you seasoned mongers:
(1) Lingerie day is on Wednesday, right? I'd love to try, but does it impact positively or negatively the LU on that day?
(2) From 00 h to 4 am, is there still great attendance during week days? I'll finish work late.
(3) Anyone planning to go in the coming days and willing to share a drink?
Best.
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[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2691894]Many mongers told me they have met a lot of girls who told them mongers: "I am brand new in the business, honey! You are my first customer, I like you very much. Please show me the DFK heaven!
Just to share a secret back.[/QUOTE]I have been pursuing this hobby for close to 50 years. Its second nature for me to know who is new to the business and who is not. The only problem is if a girl who is on her first day says to me "I am brand new in the business, honey!.... ", she will have me confused.
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[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2691842]I stayed at Pallas a few years back and it was OK.
Judging by Booking reviews it seems Dormero is not bad either and within walking distance.[/QUOTE]I have stayed in Frankfurt or nearer to the clubs. If I have business in Frankfurt, of course I stayed in the city near finance district and those were nicer hotels. I'd visit the clubs in the evenings on those days. 70% to 80% of the time, I have no business in Frankfurt and on those occasions I'd stay nearer to the club. I tend to stay longer in the clubs on such visits, as much as 12 to 15 hours for example. The downside is that you'd have to put up with the shitty club food for all your meals. On such days, I normally take some fruit and energy bars with me and skip a mealmor two. I think a meal and half is more than I can tolerate in most clubs. There are some reasonably OK hotels nearby. Mercure is alright in Freidricchsdorf and there is a H+, Best Western, and such in Darmstadt. Prices tend to be volatile. When there is an event in town such as messe, I have paid 200+ for Mercure and there are other days when I booked it for 65. Just depends on your luck. I don't remember if I ever stayed in Pallas. Doesn't look too inviting although it is a short walk.
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[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2691871]Asian consumer behavior do not help with girls rates.[/QUOTE]Expensive and saving small pussy. I don't go to Asians specialists, they would not be able for me.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2692058]Siri said she moved to GT. Well, seeing that it burned down (so long discriminatory door practices), we can rest assured she's not there. The one I was with had great English language skills, as well as a great command of dirty Russian speech LOL![/QUOTE]At Bruggen on 2019. Only 1 Russian at Samya between 2016 and 2018.
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[QUOTE=GaryV14;2692063]Hi folks,
I'll be in Frankfurt this week for business (from Monday to Thursday) and possibly in the coming weeks as well.
I'd have a few requests / questions for you seasoned mongers:
(1) Lingerie day is on Wednesday, right? I'd love to try, but does it impact positively or negatively the LU on that day?
(2) From 00 h to 4 am, is there still great attendance during week days? I'll finish work late.
(3) Anyone planning to go in the coming days and willing to share a drink?.[/QUOTE]Wednesday should have best casting on your days, but many girls finish around midnight /1 am, not running for drunk Balkanians business. Better to arrive not too late at Sharks. Not my first choice on 2022, maybe casting will improve, I wish.
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[QUOTE=GaryV14;2692063]Hi folks,
(1) Lingerie day is on Wednesday, right? I'd love to try, but does it impact positively or negatively the LU on that day?
(2) From 00 h to 4 am, is there still great attendance during week days? I'll finish work late.
[/QUOTE]Lingerie day is on Tuesday, not Wednesday.
Best time is between 20 h and 01 h, many girls leave after 01 h.
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Hotel close to Sharks
I have booked at Dormero Hotel Darmstadt.
I t is close to the Sharks, just 10 minutes walking.
I will be 18th -22th, happy to drink or chat with sb in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2687017]Besides Julia, I also found a few girls who could easily distinguish them from current mediocre lineup. I only choose girls who could attract me optically.
Adriana, was my lovely "Ashley" three years ago. She usually sat together along with Teodora. Adriana is still as pretty and smart as 3 years ago.
Claudia (23 yo, 170 cm, A cup) had been back from vacation since 3 weeks ago. She started to work at Sharks 5 months ago. Super nice. Pretty model type. Some German customers paid her 200 euro / hour. She would focus on Asian or Americans busses as well.
Teodora (21 yo, she told me), 4 months in Sharks. Super pretty. She is a rising star. 100 euro for 30 min or 150-200/ hour. She asked me several times to take her. I was concentrated on Julia too much this time. Would give her more business at next visit. Teodora would attract lots of Asian or American customers. Teodora sat on the couch which was Betty's clique resided. Betty's group now relocate to the sofa facing Bar, which is next to Julia's place.
Marla or Mala, 25 yo. Pretty and fun. She has beautiful big eyes. We did go to room several times 4 years ago. She recognized me immediately even if we haven't seen each other for years. We both recalled many details. We spent several hours in the room this time. She joked that she would stay with me until reach my budget limit. Marla told me she has lots of Asian customers because Japanese like her teenage-look face. Marla usually sat with Anastasia and Julia.[/QUOTE]Cataleya / Miss Sharks 2021 is always popular with all kinds of customers. Not only does she have a dream physique, but she also takes good care of her regular clients to the point that she arranges the schedule with them. You have to try to catch her before 7 pm When she has a time.
Julia is one of the candidates for Miss Sharks 2022 that we have talked about a lot in recent days. She is also very popular.
Theodra who was to be one of the candidates for the throne is trying to adapt to the environment. She starts smiling and hunting at the start of the day, but soon she gets tired.
Cosmina and Vanessa now have many European clients. Covid Time caused their service to change. They become sure values like the friend of this last Mara who is already a good professional with always a good mood.
The Vanessa and Mara tandem does not stop working.
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I'll be in the area the 10th to the 16th. I am planning on setting aside 1000 $.
Any detailed advice on pricing etc is greatly appreciated.
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[QUOTE=MrIdiot;2692457]I'll be in the area the 10th to the 16th. I am planning on setting aside 1000 $.
Any detailed advice on pricing etc is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]First and the most important and I think we will all agree on this point: All our support to Ukraine versus dirty bastard Putin, when Chinese are blocked in Shanghai and Beijing.
At Sharks, you should find petite Romanians if you like, but I'm not sure many will compete with Ukrainian women for look and sex. Best days are from Wednesday to Sunday, from 4 pm to 1 am. Some good girls are still for 100/60. Unfortunately, many now and not all good ask for more expensive 100/30, 150/60 and even more and not even able to kiss. They are on Asian business level. Talk with girls before going and feel how they talk to You and look at You. Quite informative. If bad start in room, leave very fast and just give 50 wasted, if the girl doesn't behave to deserve more. Enjoy your trip. Girls are paid in €. If Sharks is not good for you, not only Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2692526]First and the most important and I think we will all agree on this point: All our support to Ukraine versus dirty bastard Putin, when Chinese are blocked in Shanghai and Beijing.
At Sharks, you should find petite Romanians if you like, but I'm not sure many will compete with Ukrainian women for look and sex. Best days are from Wednesday to Sunday, from 4 pm to 1 am. Some good girls are still for 100/60. Unfortunately, many now and not all good ask for more expensive 100/30, 150/60 and even more and not even able to kiss. They are on Asian business level. Talk with girls before going and feel how they talk to You and look at You. Quite informative. If bad start in room, leave very fast and just give 50 wasted, if the girl doesn't behave to deserve more. Enjoy your trip. Girls are paid in . If Sharks is not good for you, not only Sharks.[/QUOTE]I realize this may be slightly off topic and not what you all are looking for but if ultra petite like 5 feet was something you wanted to find I would go to the RLD. I have found it unusual to other places in that respect. There is probably one women at 5 feet at Sharks. I need to learn how to convert to metric. There is probably two white woman at 4' 9' in the RLD. My experience is limited on this but I have never been anywhere that had 4' 9' white women. It takes that for a woman to reaaly be able to lay her head on my chest so I think I can excused for liking it. I like 6 footers too sometimes. The height doesn't really matter to me. I can definitely go both ways.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2692061]I like doing Friday evenings around 6 pm. But I do recall earlier times have a different line up.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, how important is it that I get a hotel in the city? Are special events like lingerer day worth it?
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2692645]I realize this may be slightly off topic and not what you all are looking for but if ultra petite like 5 feet was something you wanted to find I would go to the RLD. I have found it unusual to other places in that respect. There is probably one women at 5 feet at Sharks. I need to learn how to convert to metric. There is probably two white woman at 4' 9' in the RLD. My experience is limited on this but I have never been anywhere that had 4' 9' white women. It takes that for a woman to reaaly be able to lay her head on my chest so I think I can excused for liking it. I like 6 footers too sometimes. The height doesn't really matter to me. I can definitely go both ways.[/QUOTE]Many short Romanians when bare feet at Sharks, when I'm more impressed by long legs to wake up my excitement in brothels, when not so many pretty faces in brothels compare to real life, at least what I see in Paris. On Saturday, with more than 60 girls at Globe, I had to work so hard to find 2 desirable. When I left at 7 pm to drive to my mountains, I was exhausted but not by sex.
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Simple questions
Hi.
Two simple questions:
How large is the line-up these days? Can you give me a realistic range (ie minimum on Mon, Tue; maximum on Fri, Sat)? Are we far from numbers before covid?
How much is it to go from airport to Sharks by taxi?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2692904]Hi.
Two simple questions:
How large is the line-up these days? Can you give me a realistic range (ie minimum on Mon, Tue; maximum on Fri, Sat)? Are we far from numbers before covid?
How much is it to go from airport to Sharks by taxi?[/QUOTE]From Wednesday to Sunday, more girls at Sharks than Globe, but don't mean high quality for both at the moment, when I got 3 really high level girls at Sharks, 2 of them for 100/60, on 2021. Wish to find only one on same level. Better rooms and garden at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2692904]Hi.
Two simple questions:
How large is the line-up these days? Can you give me a realistic range (ie minimum on Mon, Tue; maximum on Fri, Sat)? Are we far from numbers before covid?
[/QUOTE]On average I would say there's 50 women at any given time. 3-4 different women that you'll actually want, and probably 4-5 women willing to bother / harass you to take them to a room.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2692526]First and the most important and I think we will all agree on this point: All our support to Ukraine versus dirty bastard Putin, when Chinese are blocked in Shanghai and Beijing.
At Sharks, you should find petite Romanians if you like, but I'm not sure many will compete with Ukrainian women for look and sex. Best days are from Wednesday to Sunday, from 4 pm to 1 am. Some good girls are still for 100/60. Unfortunately, many now and not all good ask for more expensive 100/30, 150/60 and even more and not even able to kiss. They are on Asian business level. Talk with girls before going and feel how they talk to You and look at You. Quite informative. If bad start in room, leave very fast and just give 50 wasted, if the girl doesn't behave to deserve more. Enjoy your trip. Girls are paid in . If Sharks is not good for you, not only Sharks.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the info. Can I ask anyone here an honest open question?
If I am strictly interested in banging hot 18 to 21 year old women who have the whole Hustler Legal college girl look going on is it even worth going to Darmstadt?
I wonder if the roster will support my tastes and preferences.
Can I easily get this from multiple providers at a fair rate over a 5 day period?
I wonder if that's what I am looking for if Sharks will be worth it or if I should maybe hit up South America or Pattaya on my way back to Ukraine.
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2692904]Hi.
How much is it to go from airport to Sharks by taxi?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Take the bus from post number 14. Pay the driver 9 euros.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2693091]On average I would say there's 50 women at any given time. 3-4 different women that you'll actually want, and probably 4-5 women willing to bother / harass you to take them to a room.[/QUOTE]This seems low? Has anyone gone to sharks but left?
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[QUOTE=MrIdiot;2693109]I appreciate the info. Can I ask anyone here an honest open question?
If I am strictly interested in banging hot 18 to 21 year old women who have the whole Hustler Legal college girl look going on is it even worth going to Darmstadt?
I wonder if the roster will support my tastes and preferences.
Can I easily get this from multiple providers at a fair rate over a 5 day period?
I wonder if that's what I am looking for if Sharks will be worth it or if I should maybe hit up South America or Pattaya on my way back to Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Even Ukrainian girls are not so pretty than Russians for me, but when US find higher looks among Romanians than at home, but don't expect to find many looks at Sharks on prettiest Ukrainians level and Sharks is not on top on beginning of this year. I prefer some much smaller clubs in Germany at the moment.
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[QUOTE=Rovereto;2692904]Hi.
How much is it to go from airport to Sharks by taxi?
Thanks![/QUOTE]You can always get a great idea by just opening your UBER and pretending you are going by UBER to Sharks. That will give you some ranges. Otherwise, three are lots of discussoins about buses and trains from the airport to.
DARMSTADT NORD. Station.
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Had a session with Coralie, from Spain. I had met her at Samya 2-3 months ago when Sharks was closed, but she will stay at Sharks.
Good blowing skills, even she looks like she doesn't care of you lmao.
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[QUOTE=MrIdiot;2693109]I appreciate the info. Can I ask anyone here an honest open question?
If I am strictly interested in banging hot 18 to 21 year old women who have the whole Hustler Legal college girl look going on is it even worth going to Darmstadt?
I wonder if the roster will support my tastes and preferences.
Can I easily get this from multiple providers at a fair rate over a 5 day period?
I wonder if that's what I am looking for if Sharks will be worth it or if I should maybe hit up South America or Pattaya on my way back to Ukraine.[/QUOTE]I don't think South America or Pattaya has better looking women than Germany. You can see what the women in Pattaya look like by watching YouTube videos. I don't think Thailand has opened up fully. Personally I am going to wait until the Soapy Soapy Massage places open up in Thailand. I will try that again. The Termas in Rio are smaller than FKK Clubs. I used to go to Centarus years ago and they said that was the best in Brazil. I think it is a mixed bag everywhere. As far as providers being 18 to 21, that is what they are most everywhere. They are the vast majority. They are usually all under 30 everywhere. That is a fact. I'm not an expert but if I was looking for looks I wouldn't go to Pattaya. It might be a fun place. Supposedly right now it isn't even cheaper than Europe. The good looking dancers in Thailand may or may not provide services. I liked the top level dancers in Phuket and some of them are not providers. The girls in bars do not see themselves as prostitutes. I went to Soapy Soapy called Christines in Phuket three times and never saw anyone I liked. I can always find someone I like on any given night in Germany.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2693368]You can see what the women in Pattaya look like by watching YouTube videos. [/QUOTE]Not necessarily true unless you're concentrating on lowly bar girls or freelancers. None of my top gogo girls would ever stand outside their bar trying to lure in customers so you would never see them on a YouTube video. Same applies to Soapie girls where some are really pretty albeit with basic service. I do agree with you that talent overall is weak in Thailand post COVID because it just opened up with no restrictions 3 days ago. Germany has been open much longer and from what I read talent is way down as well. Germany is a better option right now than Pattaya. We'll see how quickly the top girls return once tourists start returning to Thailand.
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[QUOTE=GaryV14;2693347]Had a session with Coralie, from Spain. I had met her at Samya 2-3 months ago when Sharks was closed, but she will stay at Sharks.
Good blowing skills, even she looks like she doesn't care of you lmao.[/QUOTE]Coralie was at Sharks before covid and on 2021, moved to Samya just when Sharks was closed. She is Romanian moving to Spain. I find she lost her light, you say interesting.
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Talent
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2693380]I do agree with you that talent overall is weak in Thailand post COVID because it just opened up with no restrictions 3 days ago. Germany has been open much longer and from what I read talent is way down as well. Germany is a better option right now than Pattaya. We'll see how quickly the top girls return once tourists start returning to Thailand.[/QUOTE]This is one reason why I'm not rushing to get back. Lineup quality is still lacking worldwide. I want the talent to get back to what it was pre-pandemic. Then it will be time to return. I don't think that will happen until 2023. But what about the impending economic recession (it's coming). How will that impact supply and demand for international "tuting"?
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Sharks Mon-Wed May 2-4
Well Gentlemen, here is a "brief" report.
First off, as others have mentioned the rates have gone up, but I do not believe the service has. So then why double the rate? I do believe the rates should have gone up be / see 50 euros has been paid for how long? I'd be much more incline to continue attending if rates are 75 for 30 minutes. We can debate on the rates / service if it's a result of:
A) the ladies I went with.
B) my recollection of past experiences (overvaluing by chance).
C) a result of pandemic (I feel the world is in a funk, nothing works like it use to, things take longer, more excuses, mental fatigue, etc.); therefore, are they any different then slackers at the office who are no longer producing like they have prior to the pandemic? Me included partly because others are lazy and it stresses the shit out of me, then I get in a funk be / see I have to fix everything because others are lazy. Does anyone else think this?
D) my current state.
Anyway, I felt the optics on Monday and Tuesday were pretty well, but I've only been to Sharks once prior to this trip on either a Monday or Tuesday. I do not remember many names of the girls I've been with, lack of sleep since arriving. Every girl I sessioned with was the new rates, none would do 150/ HR. I tried to negotiate, but the cost to travel (Flight, hotel, car rental and VACATION days) and not to session would be more depressing than paying the new rate; however, I told the girls that I may stop coming because the cost is too great and I'd rather stay home or go to Brazil. I was quoted old rates and some said they'd do the old, but no kissing or BBBJ. Well screw that because to me those are the best parts. I didn't ask if they'd do the old rate with CIM which would be 100. I may start asking. What I loved about Fkks is the need not to negotiate, and that's what I dislike about Brazil. It stresses me and that stress tends to lead to lower level satisfaction. I would say at least 50% maybe 75% of the girls have been at sharks pre-2020.
Monday: Arrive 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM.
Session 1: She is a fake blonde half Romanian / Ukraine, sits near the entrance to the dining area. Great fake breasts, pretty and service oriented. She doesn't attend much, because she told me the last time she was here was last October, the time we met. She gave a fantastic blowjob and charged new rates. I loved chatting with her, she's a real go-getter. I would repeat.
Tuesday: 12:00 PM to 4:30 PM and 10:30 PM to 2:00 AM.
Session 1: 28 Yr old Romanian, She sits in the couch section in the middle between the aquarium and bar. She meows, beautiful, nice fake tits, give one hell of a BJ. I would repeat.
Session 2: Skinny 25 yr old Romanian, sits under the aquarium. She was good, I probably wouldn't repeat. We / I didn't have chemistry. I was in a funk, and didn't perform.
Session 3: German girl, she was pretty great, erotic massage. I would repeat. She sits in the couch section in the middle between the aquarium and bar.
Session 4: Romanian blonde, sits at the front of the bar, kind of where Brenda use to sit. God I miss Brenda's amazing tits and she always gave me a good BJ. She is shorter, sweet girl, and charges new rate. We spoke about the rate and I told her it's too much, even though I went wither her. She did give a really good BBBJCIM. Would repeat.
Wednesday: 6:00 PM to 3:00 AM.
It was very crowded. Also, why do people open those curtains in the back room where the kino use to be? The curtain is closed idiots! People also opened doors even when they were closed. Those two things piss me off, idiots.
Session 1: Cheyenne, well that was her name back in 2017 when we met. I still think she's beautiful, great tits, fake, but great. Her butt looks bigger. I was in a funk, and didn't perform. Kind of seemed in a hurry, but she was having an off day.
This is something to keep in mind, sometimes these girls have off days. Just like us, and this could cause a less than perfect service once in a blue moon. I've always had great experiences with her.
Session 2: 21 year old Romanian, she sits at the back of the bar, pretty, tall, probably 5'10", amazing youthful breasts, nice smile. I stayed with her a long time, she was passionate with me, but I believe she doesn't do that with everyone. I would absolutely repeat. She likes it more sensual.
ALL IN ALL. New prices suck, and Sharks isn't what it use to be (again, maybe I'm jaded by the new prices, but it just seemed off). This is our conundrum. If we stop going, what happens to fkks? Do they close? Probably not, do they attract less girls? Possibly. I did speak to a German and he told me the same thing about how I felt this trip has gone, it's not what it use to be and give me advice to go to Wellcum in Austria. I'm debating to pack-up and go and abandon Frankfurt and Dusseldorf the rest of this trip. I use to enjoy hour long rooms with CIM, but with these rates, I'm probably going to alter my visit going forward and just do 30 minute BBBJCIM. I may go back tonight.
Also, I know I said I'd repeat with these girls mostly, but if I lived in Germany, and it was old prices, I would session with a greater population and thus probably wouldn't have a high rate of returm, but I cannot always take that risk and at least half of my sessions would be with prior experiences, this trip it's been only 25% old sessions because my favorites were no here the past couple days. When I first went to FKKs, it was mainly Sharks and Oase, then I started going to Acapulco Velbert and finally solely went to Golden Time in Bruggen more, be / see that club was the best for me.
Last note! First impression do not mean everything! The first time I went to Golden Time I absolutely hated it and it eventually turned into my favorite club.
I hope this helps, I'm not much of a writer because I prefer numbers.
If anyone has anything to say about Wellcum, please private message me. I'd love to hear more opinions on the optic and service level compared to sharks.
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Clarification
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693530]Every girl I sessioned with was the new rates, none would do 150/ HR.[/QUOTE]Do you mean none would do less than 150 per hour? That would be 100 for the hour plus 50 to get BBBJ.
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693530]Well Gentlemen, here is a "brief" report.
First off, as others have mentioned the rates have gone up, but I do not believe the service has. So then why double the rate? I do believe the rates should have gone up be / see 50 euros has been paid for how long? I'd be much more incline to continue attending if rates are 75 for 30 minutes. We can debate on the rates / service if it's a result of:
A) the ladies I went with.
B) my recollection of past experiences (overvaluing by chance).
C) a result of pandemic (I feel the world is in a funk, nothing works like it use to, things take longer, more excuses, mental fatigue, etc.); therefore, are they any different then slackers at the office who are no longer producing like they have prior to the pandemic? Me included partly because others are lazy and it stresses the shit out of me, then I get in a funk be / see I have to fix everything because others are lazy. Does anyone else think this?.[/QUOTE]Good report.
What is the new new rate? If none of the girls agree to 150 an hour as you said, which I thought was the new rate, what is the new rate you experienced?
Seems like rates are in a flux? Different people are reporting different rates. Siri says he still gets 100 an hour. Many people said 150 an hour is acceptable to most girls, even top optics and it does include BBBJ and some amount of kissing. Then others spoke of 200 and hour or 150 plus tips and so on and but the 150 an hour did not include kissing in some cases.
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Confused as you said ' Every girl I sessioned with was the new rates, none would do 150/ HR. ' What is the new rate?
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693530]Well Gentlemen, here is a "brief" report.
First off, as others have mentioned the rates have gone up, but I do not believe the service has. So then why double the rate? I do believe the rates should have gone up be / see 50 euros has been paid for how long? I'd be much more incline to continue attending if rates are 75 for 30 minutes. We can debate on the rates / service if it's a result of:
A) the ladies I went with.
B) my recollection of past experiences (overvaluing by chance).
C) a result of pandemic (I feel the world is in a funk, nothing works like it use to, things take longer, more excuses, mental fatigue, etc.); therefore, are they any different then slackers at the office who are no longer producing like they have prior to the pandemic? Me included partly because others are lazy and it stresses the shit out of me, then I get in a funk be / see I have to fix everything because others are lazy. Does anyone else think this?
D) my current state.
Anyway, I felt the optics on Monday and Tuesday were pretty well, but I've only been to Sharks once prior to this trip on either a Monday or Tuesday. I do not remember many names of the girls I've been with, lack of sleep since arriving. Every girl I sessioned with was the new rates, none would do 150/ HR. I tried to negotiate, but the cost to travel (Flight, hotel, car rental and VACATION days) and not to session would be more depressing than paying the new rate; however, I told the girls that I may stop coming because the cost is too great and I'd rather stay home or go to Brazil. I was quoted old rates and some said they'd do the old, but no kissing or BBBJ. Well screw that because to me those are the best parts. I didn't ask if they'd do the old rate with CIM which would be 100. I may start asking. What I loved about Fkks is the need not to negotiate, and that's what I dislike about Brazil. It stresses me and that stress tends to lead to lower level satisfaction. I would say at least 50% maybe 75% of the girls have been at sharks pre-2020.
Monday: Arrive 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM.
Session 1: She is a fake blonde half Romanian / Ukraine, sits near the entrance to the dining area. Great fake breasts, pretty and service oriented. She doesn't attend much, because she told me the last time she was here was last October, the time we met. She gave a fantastic blowjob and charged new rates. I loved chatting with her, she's a real go-getter. I would repeat.
Tuesday: 12:00 PM to 4:30 PM and 10:30 PM to 2:00 AM.
Session 1: 28 Yr old Romanian, She sits in the couch section in the middle between the aquarium and bar. She meows, beautiful, nice fake tits, give one hell of a BJ. I would repeat.
Session 2: Skinny 25 yr old Romanian, sits under the aquarium. She was good, I probably wouldn't repeat. We / I didn't have chemistry. I was in a funk, and didn't perform.
Session 3: German girl, she was pretty great, erotic massage. I would repeat. She sits in the couch section in the middle between the aquarium and bar.
Session 4: Romanian blonde, sits at the front of the bar, kind of where Brenda use to sit. God I miss Brenda's amazing tits and she always gave me a good BJ. She is shorter, sweet girl, and charges new rate. We spoke about the rate and I told her it's too much, even though I went wither her. She did give a really good BBBJCIM. Would repeat.
Wednesday: 6:00 PM to 3:00 AM.
It was very crowded. Also, why do people open those curtains in the back room where the kino use to be? The curtain is closed idiots! People also opened doors even when they were closed. Those two things piss me off, idiots.
Session 1: Cheyenne, well that was her name back in 2017 when we met. I still think she's beautiful, great tits, fake, but great. Her butt looks bigger. I was in a funk, and didn't perform. Kind of seemed in a hurry, but she was having an off day.
This is something to keep in mind, sometimes these girls have off days. Just like us, and this could cause a less than perfect service once in a blue moon. I've always had great experiences with her.
Session 2: 21 year old Romanian, she sits at the back of the bar, pretty, tall, probably 5'10", amazing youthful breasts, nice smile. I stayed with her a long time, she was passionate with me, but I believe she doesn't do that with everyone. I would absolutely repeat. She likes it more sensual.
ALL IN ALL. New prices suck, and Sharks isn't what it use to be (again, maybe I'm jaded by the new prices, but it just seemed off). This is our conundrum. If we stop going, what happens to fkks? Do they close? Probably not, do they attract less girls? Possibly. I did speak to a German and he told me the same thing about how I felt this trip has gone, it's not what it use to be and give me advice to go to Wellcum in Austria. I'm debating to pack-up and go and abandon Frankfurt and Dusseldorf the rest of this trip. I use to enjoy hour long rooms with CIM, but with these rates, I'm probably going to alter my visit going forward and just do 30 minute BBBJCIM. I may go back tonight.
Also, I know I said I'd repeat with these girls mostly, but if I lived in Germany, and it was old prices, I would session with a greater population and thus probably wouldn't have a high rate of returm, but I cannot always take that risk and at least half of my sessions would be with prior experiences, this trip it's been only 25% old sessions because my favorites were no here the past couple days. When I first went to FKKs, it was mainly Sharks and Oase, then I started going to Acapulco Velbert and finally solely went to Golden Time in Bruggen more, be / see that club was the best for me.
Last note! First impression do not mean everything! The first time I went to Golden Time I absolutely hated it and it eventually turned into my favorite club.
I hope this helps, I'm not much of a writer because I prefer numbers.
If anyone has anything to say about Wellcum, please private message me. I'd love to hear more opinions on the optic and service level compared to sharks.[/QUOTE]
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New rate 100 for 30 minutes and 100 for 60 minutes. To be fair I didn't talk to many girls out of the ones I sessioned with.
[QUOTE=SerpentX;2693539]Confused as you said ' Every girl I sessioned with was the new rates, none would do 150/ HR. ' What is the new rate?[/QUOTE]
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Nonsensical
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693543]New rate 100 for 30 minutes and 100 for 60 minutes. To be fair I didn't talk to many girls out of the ones I sessioned with.[/QUOTE]That makes zero sense and doesn't square with reports from others. If I understand correctly, it's 50 euros for 30 minutes (100 only if you want a BBBJ). And it's 100 euros for 60 minutes (150 if you want a BBBJ). CIM would be another 50 euros, and anal sex is at a 100 euros upsell premium. Now, I understand that some girls will refuse you for 50 euros for 30 minutes, but that's the standard price for 30 minutes with CBJ. They know most guys don't want a CBJ, so they hold out for somebody willing to cough up that additional 50 for a BBBJ. We have the new condom law that came into effect to thank for this! Damnit!
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Let me also say something about me:
1) I am really picky and like to observe girls for a long time before I decide who to approach.
2) I don't talk to a lot of girls, and I may have only spoke to about 5-10% of the population.
3) They know where I am from and think I have all this money. Which I don't.
4) The girls I speak are probably more in demand, thus the lack of offers for 150/ hour.
5) If you haven't picked up on it, I'm not a great negotiator. If anyone is going to the club is, I would love to observe you and be observed. I'd be willing to compensate you because in the end we would all win if we can get lower rates for longer session. S.
Thus, it may be possible to get 150/ hour.
It is very interesting how long some of the girls sat around after I rejected their first offer of 200/ hour. I did this to a couple of the ones I sessioned with later, but they wouldn't budge.
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It's insane for them to charge 200/ HR now. At this Rate I'm definitely going to explore other clubs in and out of Germany.
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693553]Let me also say something about me:
1) I am really picky and like to observe girls for a long time before I decide who to approach.
2) I don't talk to a lot of girls, and I may have only spoke to about 5-10% of the population.
3) They know where I am from and think I have all this money. Which I don't.
4) The girls I speak are probably more in demand, thus the lack of offers for 150/ hour.
5) If you haven't picked up on it, I'm not a great negotiator. If anyone is going to the club is, I would love to observe you and be observed. I'd be willing to compensate you because in the end we would all win if we can get lower rates for longer session. S.
Thus, it may be possible to get 150/ hour.
It is very interesting how long some of the girls sat around after I rejected their first offer of 200/ hour. I did this to a couple of the ones I sessioned with later, but they wouldn't budge.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693553]It is very interesting how long some of the girls sat around after I rejected their first offer of 200/ hour. I did this to a couple of the ones I sessioned with later, but they wouldn't budge.[/QUOTE]When I was at Sharks, I saw a girl who looked great. She wanted €150 for 30 minutes. I laughed and said no way. I went to a room with a different girl. When I came back down, the €150 girl was still at the bar, and still there for some time.
It seems that they now prefer to sit and not earn anything than to keep the money rolling in but earn a bit less. I wonder if it is better form them in total.
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The Cane. I did say the following in the my report. YES you can get 50 euros with some girls, but no BBBJ and no kissing.
For 100 for 30 minutes, I'd be ok with a BBBJ with CIM and no kissing, I don't love it, but I'd be ok with it.
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693530]Well Gentlemen, here is a "brief" report.
I was quoted old rates and some said they'd do the old, but no kissing or BBBJ. Well screw that because to me those are the best parts. I didn't ask if they'd do the old rate with CIM which would be 100. I may start asking.
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I agree. I've told a couple of them that if this is the rate going forward then I may not be coming back to Sharks.
[QUOTE=SerpentX;2693556]It's insane for them to charge 200/ HR now. At this Rate I'm definitely going to explore other clubs in and out of Germany.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693553]Thus, it may be possible to get 150/ hour..[/QUOTE]I've returned to Sharks several times since the reopening from the pandemic and I've had the occasional quote of €200-1 HR but irrespective of how much I want the girl I just won't pay it. Not because I can't afford it but simply I don't think any CDL experience is worth paying that money to.
The vast majority of offers I get are €150 1 HR, some of which I have accepted. However there are still some who will offer the old club standard of €100 1 HR which includes kissing & OWO. They are becoming less & less but they are still there.
It maybe partly due to my charm offensive (LOL!) but mainly, although I live outside Germany, I often visit the Club and many ladies are aware of this and some will accept a lesser offer which customers who live further afield and frequent the club less often don't get.
It's all a game after all with both sides trying to get the best deal that suits them. It's just unfortunate that these days customers living further away can get a rougher deal than they use to get.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2693548]That makes zero sense and doesn't square with reports from others. If I understand correctly, it's 50 euros for 30 minutes (100 only if you wHe mistyped the rste. It should have read 200 for v60ant a BBBJ). And it's 100 euros for 60 minutes (150 if you want a BBBJ). CIM would be another 50 euros, and anal sex is at a 100 euros upsell premium. Now, I understand that some girls will refuse you for 50 euros for 30 minutes, but that's the standard price for 30 minutes with CBJ. They know most guys don't want a CBJ, so they hold out for somebody willing to cough up that additional 50 for a BBBJ. We have the new condom law that came into effect to thank for this! Damnit![/QUOTE]He mistyped the rate. He meant 200 for 60 minutes.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2693556]It's insane for them to charge 200/ HR now. At this Rate I'm definitely going to explore other clubs in and out of Germany.[/QUOTE]Not only Sharks in Germany. I visit weekly when I have a good girl.
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Thanks Jimmy Boy 99. I did mistype. I've barely slept since arriving, but next detailed report will have a better summary.
TheCane. Yes the 100 for 60 is incorrect.
Rates I was offered:
50 Euros basic sex and CBJ, no kissing.
100 per half hour.
200 per hour.
Extras: 50 for CIM.
I was rejected for 150 an hour.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2693630]He mistyped the rate. He meant 200 for 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]
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May 5 at Sharks
First time back at sharks in 2-3 years. No masks, no covid tests. A somewhat chubby girl sat on my lap and I was surprised when she told me 'all the girls' now charge 100 for 30 minutes. She was bottom 50% for sharks and had approached me so I had indicated no real interest. Price implied BBBJ / covered sex. Not my type, not worth 100 for 30. Several girls remarked to me about 'the new rate'. I don't know her name I went with a petite girl with nice natural tits. Tiny girl, shapely real tits. Typical pretty bored Romanian service but not terrible. BBBJ / covered sex 30 minutes 100 euros or 150 for 60 minutes. The overall lineup was pretty much the same--probably a bit lower than 2018/19. I was expecting worse.
This was Thursday, there were plenty of girls, more than expected--50? 75? In the past there's been more though, and also more very pretty girls. There does seem to be a girl for most any taste. Quite a few 'skanky' type IMHO, probably a bit more than in 2019. I saw about 5 girls that the 100 or 150 was perfectly reasonable but hard to believe than anyone would pay 150 for some of the girls there.
I think negotiations can be made though. At both Oase and Sharks some girls were willing to go CBJ / sex for 50/30. 1-2 girls mentioned 150 for CIM 30 minutes--too high for me.
I'm in town for 2 weeks. Any advise on if a trip to Villa Venus or that region of Germany is worth it? I prefer natural girls who give a decent service. Looks do matter to me a lot--much more than service. Please PM me with any advise or questions about Sharks visit.
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Kate
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693530]
Session 2: 21 year old Romanian, she sits at the back of the bar, pretty, tall, probably 5'10", amazing youthful breasts, nice smile. I stayed with her a long time, she was passionate with me, but I believe she doesn't do that with everyone. I would absolutely repeat. She likes it more sensual.
[/QUOTE]I believe this is Kate (at least that's the name when I fucked her at Sharks late last year). Her breasts are amazing, and I would have sworn they were fake until I felt their amazing softness in my hands and mouth. I think you're right in that she's not passionate with me because, while we enjoyed each other, I can't say there was passion involved. That may be because I like a more vigorous session. I did enjoy cumming down her throat, and that's probably all the passion I needed from Sharks.
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Best girl in Sharks.
Easily the best girl in Sharks the last two nights is Claudia. She is 24 but she looks 19. Yes I like skinny girls with nice tits and ass. Big smile always and very friendly. Find her!
I did session Julia as she has been suggested as being top level. She was ok but just ok and I will not repeat. Claudia is another level above Julia. Both in looks and in service.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2693725]Easily the best girl in Sharks the last two nights is Claudia. She is 24 but she looks 19. Yes I like skinny girls with nice tits and ass. Big smile always and very friendly. Find her!
I did session Julia as she has been suggested as being top level. She was ok but just ok and I will not repeat. Claudia is another level above Julia. Both in looks and in service.[/QUOTE]WoooW that's good news, many good newcomers.
How much they charge? And where can I find Claudia? Where she usually sits?
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2693731]WoooW that's good news, many good newcomers.
How much they charge? And where can I find Claudia? Where she usually sits?[/QUOTE]When I approached I wasn't sure if I wanted half hour or one hour. But she told me 100 for 30 minutes or 200 for 60 minutes so it was an easy decision. She is new and ambitous and I've never seen her sit anywhere as she is always walking around the bar. Black hair almost down to her ass. Always a big very friendly smile which reflects her true personality. She stands out from the old hardcore girls sitting on their bar stools.
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693530]
Last note! First impression do not mean everything! The first time I went to Golden Time I absolutely hated it and it eventually turned into my favorite club.[/QUOTE]What changed for you?
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2693368]I don't think South America or Pattaya has better looking women than Germany. You can see what the women in Pattaya look like by watching YouTube videos. I don't think Thailand has opened up fully. Personally I am going to wait until the Soapy Soapy Massage places open up in Thailand. I will try that again. The Termas in Rio are smaller than FKK Clubs. I used to go to Centarus years ago and they said that was the best in Brazil. I think it is a mixed bag everywhere. As far as providers being 18 to 21, that is what they are most everywhere. They are the vast majority. They are usually all under 30 everywhere. That is a fact. I'm not an expert but if I was looking for looks I wouldn't go to Pattaya. It might be a fun place. Supposedly right now it isn't even cheaper than Europe. The good looking dancers in Thailand may or may not provide services. I liked the top level dancers in Phuket and some of them are not providers. The girls in bars do not see themselves as prostitutes. I went to Soapy Soapy called Christines in Phuket three times and never saw anyone I liked.[/QUOTE]How does the Amsterdam RLD compare to FKKs.
[QUOTE]I can always find someone I like on any given night in Germany.[/QUOTE]How?
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2693743]How does the Amsterdam RLD compare to FKKs.
How?[/QUOTE]It is not as good. I think most people would agree on that. A bad thing about the Amsterdam RLD is they will upcharge you for things like taking their top off, changing positions or touching a breast. There is none of that where I have visited in Germany or any place else. I haven't been to the Amsterdam RLD in a long time so I could be wrong. The service can be so bad it is funny which is not a bad experience to have if you are young and resilient. It was kind of a nice area I guess because it is pedestrian and caters to tourists more.
As far as how? I just go to the places. I do walk around a lot in a RLD. It is not like I go into one of those buildings and don't see someone I like and give up. I see woman I like all over FKK clubs, etc. It is kinda interesting how some providers act oblivious to my agenda, like seeing and picking is not part of the fun. People are oblivious sometimes apparently for random reasons. I'm not saying that is bad. It is just I have this whole agenda going on and they are dismissing it or ignoring it. It is like they think their.
Frame supercedes mine. I'm the one in DisneyLand. It is kinda funny that some people are in DisneyLand and some aren't at times.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2693725]Easily the best girl in Sharks the last two nights is Claudia. She is 24 but she looks 19. Yes I like skinny girls with nice tits and ass. Big smile always and very friendly. Find her!
I did session Julia as she has been suggested as being top level. She was ok but just ok and I will not repeat. Claudia is another level above Julia. Both in looks and in service.[/QUOTE]And you are not too demanding, telling Ok if Julia is not kissing for 100/30. 200/60 is my wow look and GFE Russian escort now in Paris, real rate is 200/45 but she use to extend to 1 hour, kissing and kissing even after sex her Russian in Paris. I didn't succeed yet but I want to make her discover something, maybe why she gives me more time, seeing how I take care of her.
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Yeah, I believe that is her name.
[QUOTE=Atanion;2693704]I believe this is Kate (at least that's the name when I fucked her at Sharks late last year). Her breasts are amazing, and I would have sworn they were fake until I felt their amazing softness in my hands and mouth. I think you're right in that she's not passionate with me because, while we enjoyed each other, I can't say there was passion involved. That may be because I like a more vigorous session. I did enjoy cumming down her throat, and that's probably all the passion I needed from Sharks.[/QUOTE]
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GuyBrusg1957,
The first visit was a party night (I believe it was Thursday) and I arrived at 7:00 PM, which is probably the busiest time and the least amount of options. At the time I was using the train / taxis to go to clubs, which was a waste of time, so after calculating my investment and not understanding the best time to go (time / cost), it was not worth it and Sharks was the clear winner at the time given the ease of access and variety (2017/2018). It also helped Kate moved from Acapulco Velbret to GoldenTime. I believe the second time I went to Goldentime it was a Wednesday at opening and the experience couldn't be more different. I much preferred Goldentimes 50 for 30 minutes and 25 extra for CIM over Sharks back then. Finally, visiting "more" frequently, the girls understand who you are and although I am not a weekly visitor, when I get to know a couple and laugh with them in front of the others, it tears down the walls of the other girls.
On the same subject, I've given Palace 2/3 tries and have only had terrible experiences; however, understanding the clubs change and girls move, I read recent review the club may be a better option now. I may visit it this trip if I stay in Germany.
To sum up:
1) Visited Worst time, not understanding club.
2) Analyzed my approach to clubs (renting a car now vs train / taxi).
3) Kate.
4) Visiting more frequently leads to more access with the ladies, because they can expect you will probably return.
5) I was not a regular.
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2693740]What changed for you?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2693810]It is not as good. I think most people would agree on that. A bad thing about the Amsterdam RLD is they will upcharge you for things like taking their top off, changing positions or touching a breast. There is none of that where I have visited in Germany or any place else. I haven't been to the Amsterdam RLD in a long time so I could be wrong. The service can be so bad it is funny which is not a bad experience to have if you are young and resilient. It was kind of a nice area I guess because it is pedestrian and caters to tourists more.[/QUOTE]I fully agree. RLD is a just waste of money. These days window girls asks €50 for CBJ, €100 for CFS, and everything else is another €50 (naked, kiss, change position, etc). And everything finishes within 20 minutes, no matter how many extras you choose to include. Also the quality of girls are much lower than FKKs. The majority of them are unfuckable for me.
Free of charge for window shopping though, if you just want to look another.
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Sharks nex Thu
Will be in Sharks next Thu (May 12th) from noon, happy to share a drink or chat with sb.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2693821]And you are not too demanding, telling Ok if Julia is not kissing for 100/30. 200/60 is my wow look and GFE Russian escort now in Paris, real rate is 200/45 but she use to extend to 1 hour, kissing and kissing even after sex her Russian in Paris. I didn't succeed yet but I want to make her discover something, maybe why she gives me more time, seeing how I take care of her.[/QUOTE]Julia quoted me 150 euros for one hour. Didn't mention the need for tip on top so I paid her 150 and she was very happy. Very good kissing with Julia. But even better with Claudia. I finished after 40 minutes with Julia so she asked if I would like a massage unlike most girls that immediately run for the door. She's a fair deal at 150 euros for an hour of very good service. The reason I probably would not repeat is I found her look to be a bit plain for my taste. She doesn't use any make-up. And her tits are slightly deflated as she is the mother of a young child. I prefer girls that haven't had any kids.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2693368]I don't think South America or Pattaya has better looking women than Germany.[/QUOTE]You're comparing two developing countries to one developed country, and we all know developing countries have far more prostitutes for obvious reasons. And most FKKs are not even filled with Germans, they're mostly Romanians.
Asian, white, black, etc. Your preference is yours, but you're comparing apples to oranges here.
I've mongered in several countries (Dubai, Japan, Korea, Amsterdam, Thailand, Germany, USA, DR) and can say with high confidence that every country has beautiful women.
Also, good luck trying to move, live, or work in Germany as a foreigner compared to living, moving, and working in Thailand or South America where you can easily get a long term visa.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2693974]Julia quoted me 150 euros for one hour. Didn't mention the need for tip on top so I paid her 150 and she was very happy. Very good kissing with Julia. But even better with Claudia. I finished after 40 minutes with Julia so she asked if I would like a massage unlike most girls that immediately run for the door. She's a fair deal at 150 euros for an hour of very good service. The reason I probably would not repeat is I found her look to be a bit plain for my taste. She doesn't use any make-up. And her tits are slightly deflated as she is the mother of a young child. I prefer girls that haven't had any kids.[/QUOTE]You wrote Claudia ask 200/60. Some wrote Julia doesn't kiss. Different experiences and maybe also for rate. I love little mums and I prefer to support them than pimped, even I m usually excited to make cum and fuck pimped girls, but they are not for regular because I don t like to give them my money for Mercedes.
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Trip report.
Just got back from Sharks and it was interesting. The lineup was around 50 women, they had the usual Romanian stunners which was the tall Romanian everyone raves about but also the shorter one with like DD pure natural cups (name starts with a D, she usually arrives early so she can leave early and stands on the left side of the bar), I've had both ladies multiple times and they are lovely.
I didn't see too many new faces that I was interested in, it was pretty much everyone I've already seen before or had before. I did take someone new from Italy as well as a short, naturally busty, tattoo Romanian who looked very asian. Total of 4 women for the night, all quoted me 100 euros for 30 minutes.
I did notice there some absolutely chubby, fat, obese, and hideous women there as well. It was bad. I don't like seeing fat women walk around naked but they were everywhere. I wish there was some way to block the image from my head.
Ultimately, this might be my last visit to Sharks. While the 4-5 stunners there can make my day and are pure heaven, the overall optics of the club are bad, just too many ugly, fat, and obese women walking around. Once you've had all your favorite women multiple times, there's just no way you're going to want to lower your standards or try other women. I still love Sharks, but man, there were some low quality women walking around.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2694084]You're comparing two developing countries to one developed country, and we all know developing countries have far more prostitutes for obvious reasons. And most FKKs are not even filled with Germans, they're mostly Romanians.
Asian, white, black, etc. Your preference is yours, but you're comparing apples to oranges here.
I've mongered in several countries (Dubai, Japan, Korea, Amsterdam, Thailand, Germany, USA, DR) and can say with high confidence that every country has beautiful women.
Also, good luck trying to move, live, or work in Germany as a foreigner compared to living, moving, and working in Thailand or South America where you can easily get a long term visa.[/QUOTE]I imagine you regularly quote people out of context and then ramble on about something unrelated that has virtue signaling in it.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2694099]I imagine you regularly quote people out of context and then ramble on about something unrelated that has virtue signaling in it.[/QUOTE]I imagine you don’t actually read or comprehend any posts since that’s your takeaway.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2694088]Trip report.
Just got back from Sharks and it was interesting. The lineup was around 50 women, they had the usual Romanian stunners which was the tall Romanian everyone raves about but also the shorter one with like DD pure natural cups (name starts with a D, she usually arrives early so she can leave early and stands on the left side of the bar), I've had both ladies multiple times and they are lovely.
I didn't see too many new faces that I was interested in, it was pretty much everyone I've already seen before or had before. I did take someone new from Italy as well as a short, naturally busty, tattoo Romanian who looked very asian. Total of 4 women for the night, all quoted me 100 euros for 30 minutes.
I did notice there some absolutely chubby, fat, obese, and hideous women there as well. It was bad. I don't like seeing fat women walk around naked but they were everywhere. I wish there was some way to block the image from my head.
Ultimately, this might be my last visit to Sharks. While the 4-5 stunners there can make my day and are pure heaven, the overall optics of the club are bad, just too many ugly, fat, and obese women walking around. Once you've had all your favorite women multiple times, there's just no way you're going to want to lower your standards or try other women. I still love Sharks, but man, there were some low quality women walking around.[/QUOTE]Maybe very slim with amazing naturals Brenda? Ex Lea / Leya. Not bad if You find 4/5 beauties for You. When I find one, and even at Globe, I'm happy.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2694085]You wrote Claudia ask 200/60. Some wrote Julia doesn't kiss. Different experiences and maybe also for rate. I love little mums and I prefer to support them than pimped, even I m usually excited to make cum and fuck pimped girls, but they are not for regular because I don t like to give them my money for Mercedes.[/QUOTE]I sessioned Claudia 100/30 minutes. Yes she told me she gets 200/60 "because I'm worth it".
I found the girls to be much firmer in their increased price structure than my last trip in July. Even one girl I paid 100/60 in July refused that now - so I didn't session her this time.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2694208]I sessioned Claudia 100/30 minutes. Yes she told me she gets 200/60 "because I'm worth it".
I found the girls to be much firmer in their increased price structure than my last trip in July. Even one girl I paid 100/60 in July refused that now - so I didn't session her this time.[/QUOTE]It seems guys are willingly paying the new rate. There is worldwide inflation at present.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2694249]It seems guys are willingly paying the new rate. There is worldwide inflation at present.[/QUOTE]Within one club, it's pretty understandable that all the girls are charging the same, inflated rate, at least for the providers that are on the same competitive level. Basic economics. Outside the greater Frankfurt area, it's still a free market. You can certainly go to the clubs that the old rate still applies.
I live in the Netherlands, and I've got to say even with the new Sharks rate, the cost-performance ratio is still way better in FKKs compared to RLDs.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2694208]I sessioned Claudia 100/30 minutes. Yes she told me she gets 200/60 "because I'm worth it".
I found the girls to be much firmer in their increased price structure than my last trip in July. Even one girl I paid 100/60 in July refused that now - so I didn't session her this time.[/QUOTE]If she is really pretty and GFE, 30 mn will be too short to really enjoy, but I won t pay 200. Not more than 150 and she will have to wow me for this. Only 1 got 150/60 on 2021 from me and not anymore when she lost freshness.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2694258]Within one club, it's pretty understandable that all the girls are charging the same, inflated rate, at least for the providers that are on the same competitive level. Basic economics. Outside the greater Frankfurt area, it's still a free market. You can certainly go to the clubs that the old rate still applies.
I live in the Netherlands, and I've got to say even with the new Sharks rate, the cost-performance ratio is still way better in FKKs compared to RLDs.[/QUOTE]In NL, you have 6 with better value for money and few girls who would be among the very prettiest at Sharks. And for me, everywhere, pretties worth more expensive than others. Brothels are not kolkhoze.
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WG taking homes
Just popped into my mind: with the current 100 e /30 min 'standard' price, how much would Sharks girl take home monthly? I'm guessing for an average girl it would be around €6 k and a top girl would double that, which sounds a bit excessive.
What do you guys think?
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With the increased rate and declining talent, I feel like sharks are no longer 'the place' to monger for travelers. It's hard for me to justify to session with the same girl (two years older) and pay double the price. If locals are willing to accept this new 100/200 model it's time to find the next destination that has the best combinations of quantity / quality / service / price.
[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2694258]Within one club, it's pretty understandable that all the girls are charging the same, inflated rate, at least for the providers that are on the same competitive level. Basic economics. Outside the greater Frankfurt area, it's still a free market. You can certainly go to the clubs that the old rate still applies.
I live in the Netherlands, and I've got to say even with the new Sharks rate, the cost-performance ratio is still way better in FKKs compared to RLDs.[/QUOTE]
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Inflation yes, but not at 100%. I hope when more girls are coming back to work or when the next recession hits, it can go back to at least 150/60 mn.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2694249]It seems guys are willingly paying the new rate. There is worldwide inflation at present.[/QUOTE]
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I think the minority is asking 100-200 model, last time I was in Sharks (March 2022) it was 100-150 model.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2694399]Inflation yes, but not at 100%. I hope when more girls are coming back to work or when the next recession hits, it can go back to at least 150/60 mn.[/QUOTE]You can today easily get 150/60 from 99 percent of the girls at Sharks. They will be very happy if you offer that. There's only one or two girls that might not accept that offer. And if you hit those two girls at the right day and time maybe they will too.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2694273]If she is really pretty and GFE, 30 mn will be too short to really enjoy, but I won t pay 200. Not more than 150 and she will have to wow me for this. Only 1 got 150/60 on 2021 from me and not anymore when she lost freshness.[/QUOTE]She's an easy going girl unlike the old hacks on their barstools trying to cheat on agreed upon time. Give her a 30 minute try and pleasure her for a few minutes. She won't be in a hurry. Once she learns how often you visit you probably can have your way with her in the future. And let me know if you find a better kisser than Claudia.
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Rocko
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2694088]. Total of 4 women for the night, all quoted me 100 euros for 30 minutes.
.[/QUOTE]So the general issue at other clubs is that for the 30 minute session they always seem to want extra for kissing and / or uncovered French (I think the norm now is to charge extra unless you're a regular for uncovered French.
Was kissing at least included in the 100 4 30.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2694459]She's an easy going girl unlike the old hacks on their barstools trying to cheat on agreed upon time. Give her a 30 minute try and pleasure her for a few minutes. She won't be in a hurry. Once she learns how often you visit you probably can have your way with her in the future. And let me know if you find a better kisser than Claudia.[/QUOTE]Yes she is easy going, proposing too fast for me, but she is not pretty face and too dark skin for me, so I won t pay for Claudia whose look really don't worth 200/60, she should look at Catalea. Julia is cutest face for me with beautiful shy smile. On this Saturday evening, I was really not impressed by looks even quantity. Fortunately, on her first day, Vanessa. De for me.
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2693845]GuyBrusg1957,
The first visit was a party night (I believe it was Thursday) and I arrived at 7:00 PM, which is probably the busiest time and the least amount of options. At the time I was using the train / taxis to go to clubs, which was a waste of time, so after calculating my investment and not understanding the best time to go (time / cost), it was not worth it and Sharks was the clear winner at the time given the ease of access and variety (2017/2018). It also helped Kate moved from Acapulco Velbret to GoldenTime. I believe the second time I went to Goldentime it was a Wednesday at opening and the experience couldn't be more different. I much preferred Goldentimes 50 for 30 minutes and 25 extra for CIM over Sharks back then. Finally, visiting "more" frequently, the girls understand who you are and although I am not a weekly visitor, when I get to know a couple and laugh with them in front of the others, it tears down the walls of the other girls.
On the same subject, I've given Palace 2/3 tries and have only had terrible experiences; however, understanding the clubs change and girls move, I read recent review the club may be a better option now. I may visit it this trip if I stay in Germany.
To sum up:
1) Visited Worst time, not understanding club.
2) Analyzed my approach to clubs (renting a car now vs train / taxi).
3) Kate.
4) Visiting more frequently leads to more access with the ladies, because they can expect you will probably return.
5) I was not a regular.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, sounds like if I am visiting more than 1 FKK renting a car is basically required?
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2694258]
I live in the Netherlands, and I've got to say even with the new Sharks rate, the cost-performance ratio is still way better in FKKs compared to RLDs.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have an entire trip report on what's wrong with Amsterdam RLD.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2694164]Maybe very slim with amazing naturals Brenda? Ex Lea / Leya. Not bad if You find 4/5 beauties for You. When I find one, and even at Globe, I'm happy.[/QUOTE]Yes, perhaps Brenda, Romanian. Amazing natural tits on a very skinny body. Worth every penny and every visit. Always stands on the front left side of the bar and always shows up to work during day shifts.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2694468]So the general issue at other clubs is that for the 30 minute session they always seem to want extra for kissing and / or uncovered French (I think the norm now is to charge extra unless you're a regular for uncovered French.
Was kissing at least included in the 100 4 30.[/QUOTE]
I rarely kiss sex workers (many are smokers and you can taste their breath), but if I do, its usually a few small pecks which they dont have a problem with. I wouldnt pay extra for kissing, but I would pay extra for CIM.
[QUOTE=Lucky Nuts;2694208]
I found the girls to be much firmer in their increased price structure than my last trip in July. Even one girl I paid 100/60 in July refused that now - so I didn't session her this time.[/QUOTE]
I believe this depends on your goal and strategy. If you only want 2-3 women out of 50, then they clearly have all the leverage in pricing.
But if you want the cheapest prices no matter what, there’s plenty of older, heavier, low demand, and not so attractive ladies that will gladly accept cheaper prices. (And I’ve seen plenty of fat women still getting clients)
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2694517]Thanks for the reply, sounds like if I am visiting more than 1 FKK renting a car is basically required?[/QUOTE]Basically, if you don't rent a car then you are going to spend as much money and a lot of time travelling by public transport and taxi's.
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Not true!
[QUOTE=Downandup;2694596]Basically, if you don't rent a car then you are going to spend as much money and a lot of time travelling by public transport and taxi's.[/QUOTE]Taking the train will cost you far less money and hassle than renting a car. Sure, with a car you have more flexibility, but you are going to spend more money, not the same or less. There are more than enough trains to get you around, including some express ones. I've never rented a car on a mongering trip to Germany and never will. I enjoy the journey taking the train to Oase, Sharks, and World (longer but I don't mind). And you can get a taxi to Palace and Mainhatten for those short drives. You absolutely don't need a car, and you won't spend more money because of that if you're smart about it. You will spend less money. Now, without a car maybe you won't be able to get aroundy as quickly and on a whim as you would like, but I don't find the time taken by train to be unacceptable. And besides the daily rental, don't forget the cost of fuel (high), parking, etc.
And by the way, when I go to Germany, I will usually visit several cities. On my last big trip, I hit Frankfurt, Hamburg, Berlin, and Munich. How did I get around quickly without a car? Well, here too one could rely on the trains as well, but I didn't do that (takes to long). No, I took really cheap flights on a budget airline to quickly move from one city to the next. In this instance, having a car definitely would have cost me more money and more time had I needed to drive myself from one mongering destination in Germany to the next. I ordinarily don't like budget airlines and don't use them on long haul flights, but they're fine for city hopping around Germany. You do not need a car to enjoy mongering around Germongery. You can use a combination of trains, planes, and automobiles (taxis) to get you where you want to be, and you won't break the bank. Bon voyage!
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2694517]Thanks for the reply, sounds like if I am visiting more than 1 FKK renting a car is basically required?[/QUOTE]Taxis aren't cheap in Germany. Don't forget the additional taxi from the airport to your hotel. It's around 50 km from Sharks to Oase and even further if you want to go to World. Car will also allow you the flexibility to go to the clubs in Cologne, Aachen, and Dusseldorf. If you decide to rent a car don't rent at the airport. Take a taxi to one of the off airport offices and it will be much cheaper. Check out SixT for car rentals.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2694631]Taxis aren't cheap in Germany. Don't forget the additional taxi from the airport to your hotel. It's around 50 km from Sharks to Oase and even further if you want to go to World. Car will also allow you the flexibility to go to the clubs in Cologne, Aachen, and Dusseldorf. If you decide to rent a car don't rent at the airport. Take a taxi to one of the off airport offices and it will be much cheaper. Check out SixT for car rentals.[/QUOTE]How hard is it to drive in Europe? I've never done it before.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2694517]Thanks for the reply, sounds like if I am visiting more than 1 FKK renting a car is basically required?[/QUOTE]I haven't rented a car. I usually stay in Frankfurt next to the train station and RLD. I take the train to Sharks and Oase from train station. I could take the train to Cologne and stay in a hotel next to the Cathedral and then taxi to Samaya. I actually flew into Amsterdam once and took a train to Cologne from Amsterdam. I don't recommend that. It was a long adventure for me to try and I was familiar with Amsterdam. I'm just saying that you don't have to rent a car. I actually like sitting at bus stops and train stations because it is different for me. I also like driving but driving in another country is generally scary for me.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2694684]I haven't rented a car. I usually stay in Frankfurt next to the train station and RLD. I take the train to Sharks and Oase from train station. I could take the train to Cologne and stay in a hotel next to the Cathedral and then taxi to Samaya. I actually flew into Amsterdam once and took a train to Cologne from Amsterdam. I don't recommend that. It was a long adventure for me to try and I was familiar with Amsterdam. I'm just saying that you don't have to rent a car. I actually like sitting at bus stops and train stations because it is different for me. I also like driving but driving in another country is generally scary for me.[/QUOTE]Yes, if you're not going to have a car, then it's a good idea to set up base camp near a good hauptbanhof (train station). That way, you can easily walk to the station to catch your train without having to spend a lot of time and money to get there. Walking is for free! And where there is a train station there are taxis when you want one, like to go to Palace or Mainhatten in Frankfurt.
This is a recurring topic that we repeatedly have to broach every now and then, with most of us coming down on the side that you [B]don't[/B] need a car (and you don't and won't pay more for ground transportation either if you don't have one). I remember that before my first mongering trip to Germany, I watched a great video on YouTube on how to take the train in Frankfurt. That was a long time ago. Wonder if that video is still up?
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2694666]How hard is it to drive in Europe? I've never done it before.[/QUOTE]Car rentals can be expensive. Most deals are for standard clutch- automatic extra bUt driving is simple given that Google maps works (obviously you have to have a phone plan.).
Like others. I stayed in Cologne and taxi'd and trained. Depending how late you will be at the clubs it's only an hour back to Frankfurt by train. If you buy your train ticket in advance it's not pricey.
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2694258]Within one club, it's pretty understandable that all the girls are charging the same, inflated rate, at least for the providers that are on the same competitive level. Basic economics. Outside the greater Frankfurt area, it's still a free market. You can certainly go to the clubs that the old rate still applies.....[/QUOTE]Sharks is the busiest FKK in Germany and it seems the inflation there has something to do with that. The greater the demand the higher the cost. From my research though the cost per tute has not increased in other countries.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2694754]Sharks is the busiest FKK in Germany and it seems the inflation there has something to do with that. The greater the demand the higher the cost. From my research though the cost per tute has not increased in other countries.[/QUOTE]Quite crowded and many girls seemed to have business on this Saturday night, even some not really pretty. My German ex Palace telling: crazy, so many people. Don t seem same at Palace. And really no wow for Sharks casting. Melissa is back but not busy. Latvian Angelika is also back. Fortunately for me, new German model type, just back on day, after 10 years she said.
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Mother's day
Arrived at Sharks and first thing I saw, as I walked into the club, was That Old Woman going up the stairs with some young guy. Apparently she's legendary--she's in her 60's and not only does she get customers (typically young-ish men and rarely men near her own age) but she seems to often go into rooms for hours at a time. I saw a few posts down someone mentioned Brenda--yes, that one with the world class rack and tiny frame. She's there and now gets 100 as most of the girls do for BBBJ / covered sex 30 minutes. I've done CIM with her more times that I can remember but she doesn't do that for 100 any more, only 150 which I won't pay. It's incredible to think but it is true--if you went back 4 or 5 years Brenda's tits were actually bigger. Her frame was ever so slightly larger but her tits were even bigger. It is very likely the single most impressive body I've ever seen. For some insane reason she decided to lose weight and its still a concern of hers. She is actually too thin and her tits decrease from what they should naturally be if she weren't weight obsessed. Having said all that, her body is insane and I don't know how she is ever alone but she pretty often is.
There must be 15 very very thin Romanian girls and probably 5 or 6 who are almost stick thin without being unattractively so. That is, no anorexia. I went with one of them, don't know the name but she sits on the very first sofa to your right when you walk in, works the night shift. BJ was workmanlike, no sex, no condom, CIM, 100. She offers BBBJ / covered sex, CIM for 120. Its tempting but I didn't really connect with her. She also offers COF for that same 120.
Maybe there were 75 girls at peak time? 7-8 PM? This was Sunday. Too much silicon but enough natural girls. There were IMHO no drop dead gorgeous girls but there were maybe 5 extremely pretty ones, and quite a few (up to 20 maybe) that are in the 7+ category.
It's pretty much back to its prepandemic era, but not back to maybe 2015 or so. Oase has fallen off a cliff by comparison. If you are not too picky and have stamina you could probably spend a full week at Sharks and go thru quite a few girls without revisiting any if you didn't want.
I'm surprised by how many girls are there for years and years. Cosmina is one--I guess she has had a kid (or 2? She was at one point extremely thin, maybe even bulimic. I think she's been there over 7 years? Another girl name Hanna or Anna who was for me a real star--great natural tits, interesting face. Must be there 10 years. She came up to me and I had no idea who she was--she had to explain, 'I'm Hanna / Anna, we go together many times'. Completely unrecognizable to me but eventually I remembered that she was a past love of mine.
Overall, lineup is good, far ahead of Oase especially the day shift.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2694666]How hard is it to drive in Europe? I've never done it before.[/QUOTE]Driving on the right line, control and brake. Most dangerous is in Switzerland where as say UK top gear: driving lead to prison. I experienced without being involved in any crash. Between Geneva and Lausanne, around 60 kms and more than 10 radars.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2694502]Yes she is easy going, proposing too fast for me, but she is not pretty face and too dark skin for me, so I won t pay for Claudia whose look really don't worth 200/60, she should look at Catalea. Julia is cutest face for me with beautiful shy smile. On this Saturday evening, I was really not impressed by looks even quantity. Fortunately, on her first day, Vanessa. De for me.[/QUOTE]I meant cuter face for small Julia than Claudia who is very average face and not very smart when introducing herself. She was not so busy and I don t pay for her look. One who seems lovely is Adriana even I didn't go with her for second time, but she showed me good manners. I miss my ladyT for elegance and charm, when really lacking now at Sharks, like at Globe.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2694684]... take the train to Cologne and stay in a hotel next to the Cathedral and then taxi to Samaya[/QUOTE]Take U16 to Michaelshoven when leaving the Cathedral.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2694517]Thanks for the reply, sounds like if I am visiting more than 1 FKK renting a car is basically required?[/QUOTE]Auto is the only way to roll. And it's not just a GT and YY thing, those clubs are kaputt. Auto gives you flexibility to maneuver quickly between clubs in a single day, which will def happen occasionally when your primary target has a shit TP that day. You can also use the auto to find cheaper digs outside the stadtzentrums and to hunt down the best eats when you're burned out from the club breakfast salmon LOL. Given the ridiculous price gouging at Sharks, I'll def be hunting about in the smaller clubs, including in der Schweiz where they're running 99 deals that includes a full service GFE 30 min appt.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2694570]
I believe this depends on your goal and strategy. If you only want 2-3 women out of 50, then they clearly have all the leverage in pricing.
But if you want the cheapest prices no matter what, theres plenty of older, heavier, low demand, and not so attractive ladies that will gladly accept cheaper prices. (And Ive seen plenty of fat women still getting clients)[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm sure you are correct on this. I can usually only find 2 or 3 targets so have to accept their terms.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2694502]Yes she is easy going, proposing too fast for me, but she is not pretty face and too dark skin for me, so I won t pay for Claudia whose look really don't worth 200/60, she should look at Catalea. Julia is cutest face for me with beautiful shy smile. On this Saturday evening, I was really not impressed by looks even quantity. Fortunately, on her first day, Vanessa. De for me.[/QUOTE]Ok Siri I get it now. Yeah Julia is pure white and still has that freshness to her. For me Claudia has a prettier face that I ilked kissing. But I spend most of my time in Medellin with exotic mixed blood latinas so she had that look I like.
I would agree not much else in the club if you like hot skinny girls. Have you tried the Russian girl named Mariana? She is pure white and nice body. But her attitude was shit so the interest ended quickly for me.
There was also one named I think Salomae or something like that next to Mariana with the same bad attitude. These two never leave their barstools. They sit about 4 stools to the left of Angel or Angela who has continued to gain even more kilos since she came back last summer. And she was hot about 3 years ago.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2694720]Car rentals can be expensive. Most deals are for standard clutch- automatic extra bUt driving is simple given that Google maps works (obviously you have to have a phone plan.).
Like others. I stayed in Cologne and taxi'd and trained. Depending how late you will be at the clubs it's only an hour back to Frankfurt by train. If you buy your train ticket in advance it's not pricey.[/QUOTE]Driving is not really an issue. Finding parking is the real problem if you are in a big city.
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Tips for an FKK first timer?
I'm planning to travel to Germany in mid-June from the USA I'd like to have the best FKK experience possible. I'm experienced in paying for sex (99% of my mongering experience is in Tijuana), but I really want to have public sex (ideally outside in the garden). Money is no issue, but I still don't like the feeling of being ripped off.
Based on some initial research, Sharks seems like the best FKK in the world? Although reading through recent posts here, it looks like that may no longer be the case. Should I be going to FKK Globe, Wellcum, or Oase (or something else I'm forgetting) for a better experience than Sharks? Apologies in advance since I know this topic is always up for debate.
The things that are most important to me:
Girls are naked, not lingerie like in Tijuana.
Public sex offered.
Will these FKKs be like Tijuana with 100+ girls at the club? Or more like 20? Is it better to go on a weekend or weekday to minimize competition and maximize options? Is it realistic to show up at opening and stay all the way until close?
I'm a young guy and will be able to go a lot of rounds in an all day visit. Is it standard to get multiple rounds in one session? I can definitely pop twice in 30 min or 3 times in an hour if I find a girl I really like -- would I need to negotiate that before the session starts and / or pay extra money?
Apologies for so many questions -- I will post about my experience when I'm back. Any help is appreciated.
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Tips For FKK First timer?
Hi all, I'm planning for first FKK trip to Germany (from the you. S). 99% of my mongering experience is in Tijuana, and I'd appreciate some tips in planning my upcoming trip.
From my research, it seems like FKK sharks is the pinnacle of the FKK experience, but reading some recent posts on this forum, it seems like maybe FKK Globe, Wellcum, or Oase (or something else that I'm leaving out?) might be better now? Apologies in advance since I know this is a pretty subjective question that is always debated. Money isn't an issue because I'll probably only make this trip once in my life, and want to get the most out of it.
Some things that are important to me:
Public sex outdoors.
Girls are naked (not lingerie like Tijuana).
Should I go on a weekday or a weekend? I'd like to minimize competition but maximize options.
Some questions I haven't been able to answer by googling:
How many girls are in the club? Is it 100+ like in Tijuana or more like 20? I can see on FKK Globes website that there are usually 25-35 girls working on any given day, but the FKK Sharks website doesn't have a similar feature.
Are multiple pops standard? Or would I need to negotiate that (for more money?) before the session starts?
Appreciate any guidance. I'll post about my experience when I'm back.
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Sorry for the double post. The forum said the first one failed to post so I thought I had to type it all out again.
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Well, long post got 'deleted' time out. In short, went on May 8, Mother's day. First thing I saw was the famous Old Lady (she's in her 60's) going up the stairs with yet another youngish guy. As usual she vanished for hours. I have no idea what she does or who she is--I'm told she's famous. If you like GILF, you got her. Brenda (the girl with the huge real tits who is mentioned some posts below) is there in her usual spot, left side of bar as you walk in. I did CIM with her many times in the past but now that is 150 and I won't pay that. Generally she remains one of the best girls, generally esp if you like big tits--I mean, really big on a tiny frame. Her body 5 years ago was even better if one can imagine that. She is obsessed clearly with her weight, she is too thin and it reduces the size of her tits.
Day shift is maybe 20-30 girls, some nice ones, some not so nice. Very few truly ugly girls, and at night the count goes up to maybe 75 girls or so and there's plenty in the 7+ range. No drop dead gorgeous but a small handful of extremely pretty girls. One of the prettiest sits opposite side to Brenda, all natural body, with great real tits, little petite girl. She's friendly enough. I didn't find her great in the room but another chap who I talked to was very happy. I don't know her name but she sits on a stool near the front, talks all the time with the girl with the glasses who always looks sad, was a star a few years back but then I'm pretty sure had a kid. The petite one, like most of the girls, is 100 BBBJ / covered sex /30.
There's probably 5 extremely thin girls. There's 20+ who are slim but 5-6 who are really very thin without looking ill. The night shift is very busy, there's a body type for every taste. The overall atmosphere is somehow 'industrial', it is not casual, I find a lot of tension in the room. The best girl in the place is the tallish Moldavian blonde who walks around and is always going to a room. She is very nice, a good girl to take to a room. I did no sex, BBBJ CIM for 100. Did that with one of the very thin Romanian girls too--she sits on the very first couch on the right as you walk in. There's actually 2 very thin Romanian girls on that first couch both work night shift. The main difference is one has extremely long black hair. I'm guessing Sharks remains the best club in Frankfurt. Oase has fallen off dramatically.
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Is there still an ATM cash machine at Sharks?
I last went in 2018 I think and there was an ATM machine. Is there one still there so one can withdraw some cash via Visa if necessary?
Are there any fully nude days?
Weekends still best?
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[QUOTE=Beagleface;2694815]Having said all that, her body is insane and I don't know how she is ever alone but she pretty often is.[/QUOTE]Excellent overall trip report and thank you. That's insane that she's been there for 4-5 years, used to have bigger tits, and that she is ever alone. Honestly, she could also probably make good money off an Onlyfans account. She's not the best looking in the face, but that body is world class.
[QUOTE=Beagleface;2694815]
Maybe there were 75 girls at peak time? 7-8 PM? This was Sunday. Too much silicon but enough natural girls. There were IMHO no drop dead gorgeous girls but there were maybe 5 extremely pretty ones, and quite a few (up to 20 maybe) that are in the 7+ category.
[/QUOTE]I agree. Sometimes a woman catches your eye and then you get really close to her and notice the face just isn't that attractive.
To your point about silicon, there's also a lot of women with "plastic surgery face" (unnatural puffy lips) and it sadly seems to be spreading.
On Friday (I was there May 6th). There was a short Romanian who looked very Asian and had too many tattoos, but her tits were so huge and natural I had to have her. Anyways, again great trip report.
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[QUOTE=Ballin69;2694904]Hi all, I'm planning for first FKK trip to Germany (from the you. S). 99% of my mongering experience is in Tijuana, and I'd appreciate some tips in planning my upcoming trip.
From my research, it seems like FKK sharks is the pinnacle of the FKK experience, but reading some recent posts on this forum, it seems like maybe FKK Globe, Wellcum, or Oase (or something else that I'm leaving out?) might be better now? Apologies in advance since I know this is a pretty subjective question that is always debated. Money isn't an issue because I'll probably only make this trip once in my life, and want to get the most out of it.
Some things that are important to me:
Public sex outdoors.
Girls are naked (not lingerie like Tijuana).
Should I go on a weekday or a weekend? I'd like to minimize competition but maximize options.
Some questions I haven't been able to answer by googling:
How many girls are in the club? Is it 100+ like in Tijuana or more like 20? I can see on FKK Globes website that there are usually 25-35 girls working on any given day, but the FKK Sharks website doesn't have a similar feature.
Are multiple pops standard? Or would I need to negotiate that (for more money?) before the session starts?
Appreciate any guidance. I'll post about my experience when I'm back.[/QUOTE]I've only been to Sharks and Oase, I can't speak for the other FKKs. I believe Sharks is big, has enough women, and has a good atmosphere so I continue going as opposed to Oase. Sharks is also not too far from where I live.
I have not seen public sex outdoors, or have been outdoors.
Most girls are half naked, as in no bra but wearing panties. But I have seen plenty that are fully naked.
I go on a Friday and I'm happy. I don't think there's any "competition. " Alot of the old folks in the front couches are just there to eat, drink, and enjoy the show everyday. The only competition is if you wait too long, the girl that you you want may be leaving for the day and you don't know if she's going back to her hometown. Or the fact that you can only shag so many women in a day.
From my estimate there are generally around 50-60, but it's more than enough. You’re only going to find 2-3 tops that you’re willing to pay for.
Multiple pops are not standard, they would charge extra.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2695149]I last went in 2018 I think and there was an ATM machine. Is there one still there so one can withdraw some cash via Visa if necessary?
Are there any fully nude days?
Weekends still best?[/QUOTE]Yeah I used the Sharks ATM a couple days ago. Still there in the same corner.
Wednesdays are busy too because it's 50 euro to enter instead of 65 like most other days.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2695197]Yeah I used the Sharks ATM a couple days ago. Still there in the same corner.
Wednesdays are busy too because it's 50 euro to enter instead of 65 like most other days.[/QUOTE]No charge now when you take money on Sharks ATM? Years ago, no charge. When I couldn't finish my ski tour because of weather, I thought it was good to visit on Saturday evening to see best casting, nothing impressive, only my German model type who arrived at same time than me. Her first day since 10 years, she said.
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[QUOTE=Ballin69;2694904]Hi all, I'm planning for first FKK trip to Germany (from the you. S). 99% of my mongering experience is in Tijuana, and I'd appreciate some tips in planning my upcoming trip.
From my research, it seems like FKK sharks is the pinnacle of the FKK experience, but reading some recent posts on this forum, it seems like maybe FKK Globe, Wellcum, or Oase (or something else that I'm leaving out?) might be better now? Apologies in advance since I know this is a pretty subjective question that is always debated. Money isn't an issue because I'll probably only make this trip once in my life, and want to get the most out of it.
Some things that are important to me:
Public sex outdoors.
Girls are naked (not lingerie like Tijuana).
Should I go on a weekday or a weekend? I'd like to minimize competition but maximize options.
Some questions I haven't been able to answer by googling:
How many girls are in the club? Is it 100+ like in Tijuana or more like 20? I can see on FKK Globes website that there are usually 25-35 girls working on any given day, but the FKK Sharks website doesn't have a similar feature..[/QUOTE]I'll be there in early June and have much the same experience as you. From the states and Tijuana and CDMX are the 2 primary places I've been to. From the sounds of things at the moment, Sharks is looking like a place I'll enjoy as well as Mainhattan just because I'm staying close to the Frankfurt Main train station. I'll report once I get back.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2695216]No charge now when you take money on Sharks ATM? Years ago, no charge. When I couldn't finish my ski tour because of weather, I thought it was good to visit on Saturday evening to see best casting, nothing impressive, only my German model type who arrived at same time than me. Her first day since 10 years, she said.[/QUOTE]My brokerage, Charles Schwab, pays all ATM fees so I don't even pay attention to if there are fees or not. I just say "ok". So I don't know the fee at Sharks ATM.
Did you miss my question on the girl named Mariana? She told me she's from Russia. Have you met her and / or sessioned her? I'd say she's exactly your ideal look
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2695265]My brokerage, Charles Schwab, pays all ATM fees so I don't even pay attention to if there are fees or not. I just say "ok". So I don't know the fee at Sharks ATM.[/QUOTE]Charles Schwab card is the best! No monger should leave home without it!
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Sharks Fri-Sun May 6-8
Went in on Friday through Sunday.
Session 1: Went with a Moldavian / Romanian who sits normally at the front of bar to the right, she has fake blonde and enhancements. She performed BBBJ with CIM for 150 for 30 minutes, she iss really good. I'll go back next week to get her name. Definitely repeat. She gets pretty tan, probably 5'4", nice smile and she is a cute quirky. She's pretty ticklish and doesn't like to be licked because she's ticklish. Mid to late 20's.
Session 2: Simona. Very tiny Romanian, probably the shortest girl. 100 for 30 minutes. Was a too business during introductions, but she opened up to me in the room and after sex. I enjoyed. I would probably repeat, not for lack of performance, but I have others I liked for me better. Early to mid 20's.
Session 3: Went with a darker skin Romanian, short, nice butt and I believe her name was Ronjah. Spelling is probably not correct and name may not. She performed oral BBBJ really well, I decided to finish with sex and it was too good for me not to finish in doggy. 100 for 30. I repeated with her another day for the same. Recommend. Early to Mid 20's.
Session 4: Brenda, good fashion titty fuck and she gives a really good BBJ with CIM, but I wanted to have fun with her breasts this time. Her BBBJ goes pretty deep, but not all the way. Always repeat for me. She works mid days and usually gone by 9:00 PM.
Session 5: German 21: she gave a really good BBBJ, she sits at the tables to the left of the bar. She's not from the area and may not come too often. A little on the taller side maybe 5'7", silicon DS, pretty sure she has lip injections. She wanted 100 for 30. I'd repeat.
Session 6: A Mila Kunis / Arya Game of Thrones look alike, thin, natural be cup, probably 5'3", Romanian. She offered 100 for 30 or 150 for 60. I did 30 only, she was fun, and asked what I liked and told me to tell her if I didn't like something. I would repeat if I did an hour. Like Simona, I have other favorites. She sits by stripper pole. Great in doggy.
I had a list of many other girls I wanted to try, but stamina / time was not in my favor.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2695185].You’re only going to find 2-3 tops that youre willing to pay for.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a terrible ratio?
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GuyBrusg1957,
This is in the eye of the beholder. I would probably session with 20, if not 30 girls at Sharks. Would I repeat with all after, probably not, but it just depends. I've had 3 girls this trip that I've already repeated with and I have some I didn't get to meet yet I'd like to meet still. I've probably sessioned with at least 10 different ones this trip.
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2695288]This sounds like a terrible ratio?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2695172]Excellent overall trip report and thank you.
To your point about silicon, there's also a lot of women with "plastic surgery face" (unnatural puffy lips) and it sadly seems to be spreading.
[/QUOTE]First thanks Beagle for the report. Great news as I'll be there soon.
And.
Rocko. Couldn't agree more. Found the big lips at Palace and Mannheim "more common" than I remember. Not sure why but obviously someone is telling these ladies they are beautiful. It does not (in my experience) make.
The french any better?! If it did, I'd suggest it for every girl.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2695265]My brokerage, Charles Schwab, pays all ATM fees so I don't even pay attention to if there are fees or not. I just say "ok". So I don't know the fee at Sharks ATM.
Did you miss my question on the girl named Mariana? She told me she's from Russia. Have you met her and / or sessioned her? I'd say she's exactly your ideal look[/QUOTE]Pretty sure fee now, like in most German brothels, sometimes 9 € charge with Mastercard or visa, when no fee at 6 NL. When milky skin and long legs impress much more my eyes in brothels than small gypsies when bare feet, unfortunately I didn't notice any wow Russian compare to my Russian escort at the moment in Paris. Only just arrived Vanessa. De attracted my eyes, when I needed my Sharks French friend from Bruggen to show me Claudia and I couldn't believe so I went to her, to make her chat, her smartness on same low level than her look for me. When I saw Roxana leaving early, when I was arriving, I saw a very average casting even quantity on this Saturday. I see higher looks elsewhere and real lack of charm and elegance at Sharks on this year. Few 2021 girls are really missing. Wish for big improvement for looks.
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Stamina?
Wait. You did 6 sessions and stamina is not in your favor?
Were the sessions spread across Friday to Sunday, averaging 2 each day?
[QUOTE=DukesFord;2695283]Went in on Friday through Sunday.
I had a list of many other girls I wanted to try, but stamina / time was not in my favor.[/QUOTE]
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Pre pandemic I was doing 5 rooms no problem in a day, up to 7-8 on rare occasions.
These were spread over 3 days.
[QUOTE=Gfefan;2695450]Wait. You did 6 sessions and stamina is not in your favor?
Were the sessions spread across Friday to Sunday, averaging 2 each day?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2695485]Pre pandemic I was doing 5 rooms no problem in a day, up to 7-8 on rare occasions.
These were spread over 3 days.[/QUOTE]Damn! How old were you pre-pandemic?
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Sharks Garden Situ
Has it been warm enough for Sharks to start the barbecue season and more importantly has it been hot enough for the ladies to venture outside? For me the Club transforms when the garden is used.
I ask as I'm visiting later this week.
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Newbie
Hello guys!
I'm a newbie of FKK (it's my first time).
I'm thinking of visiting Sharks or Oase this week so I'd like to ask some questions.
1. I just read your posts and apparently the price has gone up a lot.
I'm going to ask the girls "I want to stay with you for 1 hour. 30 min to touch and lick your body while talking and 30 min for sex (CBJ not BBBJ) and I'll pay you 150€. It's not too strange? And you guys think that they will accept this price on Saturday night?
2. That's regarding services related a bit to the first questions.
How do you have fun with the girls? (sorry to ask but I'm really a beginner.).
Because prostitutes hate having sex "for a long time" so I try to finish in 15 min in general after penetration. There are people who do it longer than 40 min here? And they don't hate it?
And I could touch and lick for 30 minutes as I requested and finish after 1 hour?
3. It's another weird question, do you think we can rest well enough in the club? I'm thinking of going there by train and I don't know if it's better to book a hotel room or to go directly to Frankfurt in the morning (to test Oase so sleeping a little in Shark).
Thanks for reading my questions!
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2695340]First thanks Beagle for the report. Great news as I'll be there soon.
And.
Rocko. Couldn't agree more. Found the big lips at Palace and Mannheim "more common" than I remember. Not sure why but obviously someone is telling these ladies they are beautiful. It does not (in my experience) make.
The french any better?! If it did, I'd suggest it for every girl.[/QUOTE]If they're really comically overfilled, they can feel kind of good, especially if the girl uses them for kissing the tip and for when you're balls deep face fucking them. Otherwise, it's usually hard to even notice.
Visually, I'm not a fan on most women, but sometimes, when paired with disproportionately sized fake tits, obviously fake blonde hair, and a very tight (or absurdly curvy) body, the whole "blow up doll" look kind of gets me. I generally enjoy feeling like I have some sort of connection with the girl, even if it's all in my head, but if they look like a comic book character, I sort of enjoy the dehumanization and get off on "using" them like the sex doll they're trying to look like. Probably something I should talk to my therapist about.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2695502]Has it been warm enough for Sharks to start the barbecue season and more importantly has it been hot enough for the ladies to venture outside? For me the Club transforms when the garden is used.
I ask as I'm visiting later this week.[/QUOTE]Garden is ready. When I arrived at 9.30 pm on Saturday, I went in garden and saw a guy jumping in swimming pool, too cold, when warm at 6 NL. Barbecue foods and meats are not so good at Sharks. I prefer pastas and chili.
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[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2695545]Hello guys!
I'm a newbie of FKK (it's my first time).
I'm thinking of visiting Sharks or Oase this week so I'd like to ask some questions.
1. I just read your posts and apparently the price has gone up a lot.
I'm going to ask the girls "I want to stay with you for 1 hour. 30 min to touch and lick your body while talking and 30 min for sex (CBJ not BBBJ) and I'll pay you 150. It's not too strange? And you guys think that they will accept this price on Saturday night?
2. That's regarding services related a bit to the first questions.
How do you have fun with the girls? (sorry to ask but I'm really a beginner.).
Because prostitutes hate having sex "for a long time" so I try to finish in 15 min in general after penetration. There are people who do it longer than 40 min here? And they don't hate it?
Thanks for reading my questions![/QUOTE]First, don't say you are newbie or first time, say you used to come before covid. Most of girls have mouse memory, when I was instructed to improve my memory and brain performances, as race horse as we were ranked while my studies. Even on Saturday night, even quite busy on Saturday evening, most girls except Claudia should accept 150/60 and then your skill will do the job. Even many times fucked, but most girls have low level knowledge about sex, when they didn't learn much with their small size peste. Many small pussies and even on late night, some are still really tight. I remember one at World at 3. 30 am on 20 June 2015, busy whole night, but tight as a virgin for our late room. I couldn't believe, wondered what she did in room for hours, but many guys don't fuck.
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[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2695545]Hello guys!
I'm a newbie of FKK (it's my first time).
I'm thinking of visiting Sharks or Oase this week so I'd like to ask some questions.
1. I just read your posts and apparently the price has gone up a lot.
I'm going to ask the girls "I want to stay with you for 1 hour. 30 min to touch and lick your body while talking and 30 min for sex (CBJ not BBBJ) and I'll pay you 150. It's not too strange? And you guys think that they will accept this price on Saturday night?[/QUOTE]FKK girls have seen it all. I think it's best to tell the girl what you want from the get-go, rather than having the 'what-if' afterthoughts. If they don't like what you are asking, they will make it abundantly clear, and you'll know that this is not the service provider for you.
[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2695545]2. That's regarding services related a bit to the first questions.
How do you have fun with the girls? (sorry to ask but I'm really a beginner.).
Because prostitutes hate having sex "for a long time" so I try to finish in 15 min in general after penetration. There are people who do it longer than 40 min here? And they don't hate it?
And I could touch and lick for 30 minutes as I requested and finish after 1 hour?[/QUOTE]What's your idea of 'fun'? Of course an extended sex can be uncomfortable for the girls, and when they do, you'll definitely know. But again, you are paying for their time, and they are providing a service. A deal is a deal.
For me personally, I like to take things slow, which most of the time means approximately 10 minutes of knowing each other (if they can hold a conversation), 20-25 minutes of kissing, touching, and going down on her, 10 minutes for BBBJ and 15-20 minutes of sex. That's one hour. It's not a competition and there's no score board in FKKs. It's only in your head. You visit to enjoy, and that's the only important thing.
[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2695545]3. It's another weird question, do you think we can rest well enough in the club? I'm thinking of going there by train and I don't know if it's better to book a hotel room or to go directly to Frankfurt in the morning (to test Oase so sleeping a little in Shark).
Thanks for reading my questions![/QUOTE]There's always some area you can 'hide' to rejuvenate. Especially now the summer is approaching, you can always sleep in the garden. I've never felt the need to leave the club just to enough rest.
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Pre Pandemic in the range of 37-40.
[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2695501]Damn! How old were you pre-pandemic?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2695283]Went in on Friday through Sunday.
Session 1: Went with a Moldavian / Romanian who sits normally at the front of bar to the right, she has fake blonde and enhancements. She performed BBBJ with CIM for 150 for 30 minutes, she iss really good. I'll go back next week to get her name. Definitely repeat. She gets pretty tan, probably 5'4", nice smile and she is a cute quirky. She's pretty ticklish and doesn't like to be licked because she's ticklish. Mid to late 20's.
Session 2: Simona. Very tiny Romanian, probably the shortest girl. 100 for 30 minutes. Was a too business during introductions, but she opened up to me in the room and after sex. I enjoyed. I would probably repeat, not for lack of performance, but I have others I liked for me better. Early to mid 20's.
Session 3: Went with a darker skin Romanian, short, nice butt and I believe her name was Ronjah. Spelling is probably not correct and name may not. She performed oral BBBJ really well, I decided to finish with sex and it was too good for me not to finish in doggy. 100 for 30. I repeated with her another day for the same. Recommend. Early to Mid 20's.
Session 4: Brenda, good fashion titty fuck and she gives a really good BBJ with CIM, but I wanted to have fun with her breasts this time. Her BBBJ goes pretty deep, but not all the way. Always repeat for me. She works mid days and usually gone by 9:00 PM..[/QUOTE]What is Brenda charging these days? Good service?
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For me it was 100 for 30 and 50 for COT, I only did 30 minutes. Total 150. Same service level as all past experiences, I always thought she aimed to please and I've roomed with her many times. I will continue to room with her until her service changes.
[QUOTE=Maurelius2015;2695943]What is Brenda charging these days? Good service?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2695985]For me it was 100 for 30 and 50 for COT, I only did 30 minutes. Total 150. Same service level as all past experiences, I always thought she aimed to please and I've roomed with her many times. I will continue to room with her until her service changes.[/QUOTE]Really amazing heavy naturals, compare to plastic balloons, but 150/30 is really expensive for the face and flat ass. Since so long time I see her, I was never attracted.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2695502]Has it been warm enough for Sharks to start the barbecue season and more importantly has it been hot enough for the ladies to venture outside? For me the Club transforms when the garden is used.
I ask as I'm visiting later this week.[/QUOTE]Yeah they have fired up the outside grill the last couple of nights because the weather has been summer-like. So it just depends on the weather the day you visit.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2696053]Really amazing heavy naturals, compare to plastic balloons, but 150/30 is really expensive for the face and flat ass. Since so long time I see her, I was never attracted.[/QUOTE]I went with Brenda only once and it was only because she had such good reviews on ISG. It was a few years ago and I paid 100/60. I discovered that she could not take a good pounding and never repeated.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2696341]I went with Brenda only once and it was only because she had such good reviews on ISG. It was a few years ago and I paid 100/60. I discovered that she could not take a good pounding and never repeated.[/QUOTE]A top performer doesn't interest me if I can't see a woman when looking at her. My only choice criteria is when looking at look, behavior and image, what do I see? If I don't see a woman or I don't see anymore a woman, then I let these girls for better guys than a bad guy like me.
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Hello, newly registered here and also with some questions.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2695585]First, don't say you are newbie or first time, say you used to come before covid. Most of girls have mouse memory, when I was instructed to improve my memory and brain performances, as race horse as we were ranked while my studies.[/QUOTE]Could you please specify why not? Is it because they'll take advantage in some way?
Because in my case I'm a newbie in sex itself, so I think it's something important to be said.
Also didn't quite understand what you meant with "race horse" and "ranked while my studies"?
Thanks.
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Brenda charges 100/30 and depending on the day she might also want 200/60 nowadays. Most of her sessions are 30 minutes (or less) anyway so she's not fond of longer sessions because she "loses" money with 150/60 basically. A luxury off course for her because she rarely needs to wait for a customer longtime and most of the clients go with her after a short chat so she doesn't lose a lot of time.
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[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2696386]Brenda charges 100/30 and depending on the day she might also want 200/60 nowadays. Most of her sessions are 30 minutes (or less) anyway so she's not fond of longer sessions because she "loses" money with 150/60 basically. A luxury off course for her because she rarely needs to wait for a customer longtime and most of the clients go with her after a short chat so she doesn't lose a lot of time.[/QUOTE]When she start early, I sometimes saw her waiting for business.
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Zusan. Here is a little FYI for a newbie
[QUOTE=Zusan;2696362]Hello, newly registered here and also with some questions.
Could you please specify why not? Is it because they'll take advantage in some way?
Because in my case I'm a newbie in sex itself, so I think it's something important to be said.
Also didn't quite understand what you meant with "race horse" and "ranked while my studies"?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]While most girls won't take advantage of you, there will be some that will. The best advice for a newbie is talk to her and let her know what you want before you head to the room.
Standard service which includes a covered BJ and sex in 1-2 positions for 30 min is $50-100 Euro's depending on the club. I know that is a vast range, but all clubs are different and all girls are different.
Remember, Sharks is called "Sharks" for a reason. If you're new to a club, always ask the front desk what basic service is and how much is costs. The receptionists will tell you.
Most girls at Sharks will want $100 Euro for basic and most now will include a BBBJ with the 100 Euro price. Some girls, not the top earners, will still accept the pre 2017 gummi law price of 50 Euro.
I always negotiate 50 or some price in between 50-100 for basic with a BBBJ. I can't stand covered BJs and I've been accustomed to the standard 50 Euro rate for the 15 years I've been mongering.
In terms of taking advantage of you, what most girls will do is get you into the room and try to upsell you while your in the middle of the session.
Ex. She's giving you a blowjob and says "blow job pure for 50 E extra" or "cum on my tits or in my mouth for 50 E extra".
Now with the exception of the BBBJ ("pure") most of the extra services are 50 Euro and anal is 100 E (not sure as I'm not an anal guy, so always ask!
Bottom line it's frustrating and annoying to have the girl upsell you in the room while you're trying to bust.
Just a few years ago we (I) never had to negotiate. I would just grad a girl and say let's go and basic was implied most of the time. You'll always get some upselling if you are with 4-6 girls per visit like me, but you can tell them no and finish.
Now I have to negotiate for BBBJ for 50 Euro or pay a little more. I haven't been to Sharks in 1. 5 years, but reading this forum it seems like the girls are price gouging at that club because it's received a reputation for the go to place in Frankfurt.
I'll be in Germany this summer for 50 days and Sharks will only be hit up 2-3 times on my trip. I plan on most of the other clubs in Germany and Swiss. To provide me with better and cheaper service.
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Brenda
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2696053]Really amazing heavy naturals, compare to plastic balloons, but 150/30 is really expensive for the face and flat ass. Since so long time I see her, I was never attracted.[/QUOTE]Re, Brenda, amazing heavy naturals which I had to inspect and played with However her face is special and a little exotic, but by no means ugly. I find it interesting and attractive but YMMV.
Leaving aside heavy naturals, she is skinny (which I like) but otherwise slightly reserved, a bit cold (not sexy) and quite professional (in a worse sense). 100/30 for deep BBBJ, licking pussy, tits, FK, fuck and cum on belly. Acceptable, repetion risk, but not high.
Never touring around in a search for customers, in the evening all time booked, but early in the day you can find her looking for business, siting on her chair.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2696503]While most girls won't take advantage of you, there will be some that will. The best advice for a newbie is talk to her and let her know what you want before you head to the room.
Standard service which includes a covered BJ and sex in 1-2 positions for 30 min is $50-100 Euro's depending on the club. I know that is a vast range, but all clubs are different and all girls are different.
Remember, Sharks is called "Sharks" for a reason. If you're new to a club, always ask the front desk what basic service is and how much is costs. The receptionists will tell you.
Most girls at Sharks will want $100 Euro for basic and most now will include a BBBJ with the 100 Euro price. Some girls, not the top earners, will still accept the pre 2017 gummi law price of 50 Euro..[/QUOTE]Sharks desk don't give information about rates and services. Sharks girls are really free to do what they want and BBBJ is still very common, many wishing for extra 50 CIM, saving small pussy. For sure, many Sharks would upsell a newbie, as they do with Asians.
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[QUOTE=Ezop01;2696630]Re, Brenda, amazing heavy naturals which I had to inspect and played with However her face is special and a little exotic, but by no means ugly. I find it interesting and attractive but YMMV.
Leaving aside heavy naturals, she is skinny (which I like) but otherwise slightly reserved, a bit cold (not sexy) and quite professional (in a worse sense). 100/30 for deep BBBJ, licking pussy, tits, FK, fuck and cum on belly. Acceptable, repetion risk, but not high.
Never touring around in a search for customers, in the evening all time booked, but early in the day you can find her looking for business, siting on her chair.[/QUOTE]Just tell her you are an old customer and she will provide service for old prices. She didn't remember me but still got the old price.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2696446]When she start early, I sometimes saw her waiting for business.[/QUOTE]I have also seen her waiting for clients, it's shocking, but I've seen it. She doesn't sit on the couches, or tour the club, or talk to any of the girls, or eats, from what I've seen, so that tells me she's strictly business.
But she's an automatic repeat for me. I just can't say no to that body. I don't know how much longer she'll work there, but I'm glad she does.
Has anyone seen the very tall German (I think 181 cm) redhead with pierced nipples before? I had her back in February, didn't see here 2 weeks ago, and was wondering if she works routinely or sporadically?
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BRENDA big tits
Hi,
Been to sharks a few times and have never seen Brenda, can anyone show me a picture of a similar girl to satisfy my curiosity?
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2696503]While most girls won't take advantage of you, there will be some that will. The best advice for a newbie is talk to her and let her know what you want before you head to the room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed suggestions!
We'll see how it goes when and if I go.
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Current LU
Contemplating a near future visit but was a little put off by a recent report (I think Rocko 20 - whose reports I find reliable) that there are not many new girls in the club and a return to the days when there were quite a lot of overweight girls. Not what you want to see around the pool in late May / summer. So a general question to regular visitors to the club. How would you rate the LU presently. I know from RTFF and Siri's reports that he considers it not to be on par with post covid 2021 even. My last visit was April and the LU was weak. Wondering if other options in Germany might be better?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2696767]Contemplating a near future visit .... there were quite a lot of overweight girls. ... My last visit was April and the LU was weak. Wondering if other options in Germany might be better?[/QUOTE]Your last visit April 2022 !! Was it during romanian easter holiday (the line up is known to be weak).
I was in Sharks (March 2022) : I find the line up very good, and I didn't see any overweight girls.
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Yeah, I agree if you want sex with Brenda, it may not be the best. With her, it was always bbjcim or COT. She does have a flat ass and not sexy woman.
I miss the days of GoldenTime, I felt they had plenty of women types. This trip I tried many clubs and still nothing compares. I thought Sixsens would, but I was extremely unimpressed and left after the first session. After entering Sixsens, I thought it might compare to GoldenTime Bruggen, but alas, it did not. Then I go to babylon, same experience, and beware of Babylon, many girls do not speak english.
If anyone knows of a club closest to Goldentime, please let me know. Hopefully if it's close the prcing isn't too far.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2696053]Really amazing heavy naturals, compare to plastic balloons, but 150/30 is really expensive for the face and flat ass. Since so long time I see her, I was never attracted.[/QUOTE]
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For my eyes and taste Sharks is the best I've experienced between Acapulco Gold, Babylon, Sixsesns, Oase, Magnum, and Prime (fka Acapulco Velbret). I personally think we are in a hangover due to corona. I imagine in another year or so things will become more normal. However, if I was captain hindsight I'd be able to tell you the what it really is.
I have not gone to Oceans / GT (ugh name) or Palace. I wish I would have visited Penelope while I was in the NRW region, but that's for a later time. I was thinking about coming out in June for the entire month, but maybe Brazil is a better bet for GFE.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2696767]Contemplating a near future visit but was a little put off by a recent report (I think Rocko 20 - whose reports I find reliable) that there are not many new girls in the club and a return to the days when there were quite a lot of overweight girls. Not what you want to see around the pool in late May / summer. So a general question to regular visitors to the club. How would you rate the LU presently. I know from RTFF and Siri's reports that he considers it not to be on par with post covid 2021 even. My last visit was April and the LU was weak. Wondering if other options in Germany might be better?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2695288]This sounds like a terrible ratio?[/QUOTE]It's all subjective. Just because one isn't willing to pay for it, doesn't mean she's not hot. I bring about 500-600 euros to the club, I relax, and I pick 3-4 women throughout the night. I'm a happy man. But that doesn't mean the other 45+ I didn't pick weren't hot, they just werent something I was willing to have with my budget during that time.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2696767]Contemplating a near future visit but was a little put off by a recent report (I think Rocko 20 - whose reports I find reliable) that there are not many new girls in the club and a return to the days when there were quite a lot of overweight girls.[/QUOTE]
My last visit to Sharks was May 6th around 7pm. I still had a good time, personally, I just dont like seeing fat, chubby, or overweight naked women walking around. Its an eyesore.
I will still go to sharks, but mentally you have to prepare yourself for things you don’t want to see.
[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2696752]Hi,
[Been to sharks a few times and have never seen Brenda, can anyone show me a picture of a similar girl to satisfy my curiosity?[/QUOTE]
You may have to go during the day. She stands on the front left side of the bar, same exact spot.
Body wise, think pornstar Alia Janine (not the face, the body) very skinny but big tits.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2696771]Your last visit April 2022 !! Was it during romanian easter holiday (the line up is known to be weak).
I was in Sharks (March 2022) : I find the line up very good, and I didn't see any overweight girls.[/QUOTE]Sorry should have explained! Last visit end of March and into early April- LU average and as Rocko has said, a lot of familiar faces and not a lot more. I was rather hoping after Othordox Easter there might be an influx of new girls.
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2696778]Yeah, I agree if you want sex with Brenda, it may not be the best. With her, it was always bbjcim or COT. She does have a flat ass and not sexy woman.
I miss the days of GoldenTime, I felt they had plenty of women types. This trip I tried many clubs and still nothing compares. I thought Sixsens would, but I was extremely unimpressed and left after the first session. After entering Sixsens, I thought it might compare to GoldenTime Bruggen, but alas, it did not. Then I go to babylon, same experience, and beware of Babylon, many girls do not speak english.
If anyone knows of a club closest to Goldentime, please let me know. Hopefully if it's close the prcing isn't too far.[/QUOTE]I almost always fuck on my rooms, no CIM nor on tits, not my fantasy. I don't miss much Bruggen casting, not many were pretty for me, I left many times full heavy balls. Let s see what will be Golden gate ex Vanila / Vertigo with beautiful garden with swimming pool. 150/30 is now increased Globe rate when cum on tits is good care for her skin.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2696886]Sorry should have explained! Last visit end of March and into early April- LU average and as Rocko has said, a lot of familiar faces and not a lot more. I was rather hoping after Othordox Easter there might be an influx of new girls.[/QUOTE]Many new girls on 2022 but no impressive new look except model type Vanessa. De back after 10 years but still without silicon, kind of miracle. But not only Sharks and can find prettier and higher level girls for less expensive elsewhere in Germany or at 6 NL even also not on top around Easter. I wish for elegant with charm lady T and interesting as woman. My 2021 best girl all over FKK land.
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2696752]Hi,
Been to sharks a few times and have never seen Brenda, can anyone show me a picture of a similar girl to satisfy my curiosity?[/QUOTE]Starting early, at the bar close to restaurant, impossible to miss her exceptional naturals. Long black hair, very slim, often stockings. Maybe she doesn't shave her legs?
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[QUOTE=Ezop01;2696630]Re, Brenda, amazing heavy naturals which I had to inspect and played with However her face is special and a little exotic, but by no means ugly. I find it interesting and attractive but YMMV.
Leaving aside heavy naturals, she is skinny (which I like) but otherwise slightly reserved, a bit cold (not sexy) and quite professional (in a worse sense). 100/30 for deep BBBJ, licking pussy, tits, FK, fuck and cum on belly. Acceptable, repetion risk, but not high.
Never touring around in a search for customers, in the evening all time booked, but early in the day you can find her looking for business, siting on her chair.[/QUOTE]I didn't write Brenda ex Leya / Lea is ugly, I would even say one of the most elegant image at Sharks when they are very rare, but not Megan nor Sabina Ramona Scarlet Johanson for face. She finish quite early on evening, around 9 pm.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2696739]I have also seen her waiting for clients, it's shocking, but I've seen it. She doesn't sit on the couches, or tour the club, or talk to any of the girls.....[/QUOTE]I've seen Brenda hang out with one friend who sits at the bar close to where the manicurist works. I never sessioned the friend so don't know her name. Around 6. 00 pm Brenda world walk round to where her friend sits and chat with her for around 1/2 to 1 hour.
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One thing is certain is that Brenda is one of the busier girls in the club. But, as she is not a new arrival, customers do not wait her at the locker room exit. Therefore, it is not difficult to catch her if we wait in the area where she lands at bar.
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2696780]For my eyes and taste Sharks is the best I've experienced between Acapulco Gold, Babylon, Sixsesns, Oase, Magnum, and Prime (fka Acapulco Velbret). I personally think we are in a hangover due to corona. I imagine in another year or so things will become more normal. However, if I was captain hindsight I'd be able to tell you the what it really is.
I have not gone to Oceans / GT (ugh name) or Palace. I wish I would have visited Penelope while I was in the NRW region, but that's for a later time. I was thinking about coming out in June for the entire month, but maybe Brazil is a better bet for GFE.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't fret too much about missing Penelope. If you've been to Gold, it's not all that different, perhaps a little livelier atmosphere, plus it's super far away from any where you may find yourself unless you're for some reason passing through Dortmund. I go there when friends want to visit or if am passing by when taking the northern route from Amsterdam to Frankfurt. Actually Oase and Penelope is not a bad itinerary if you're traversing Hessen and NRW. I've had a couple of trips when I started the morning in Amsterdam, stop through Penelope mid afternoon and end up at Oase at 11 pm or midnight. But anyway, just a budget club with occasional gems. Average service, optics, and amenities are not exceptional.
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Sharks New Price + 5 for 30 minutes +10 for 60 1 hour
Here are the New fees for All FKK.
Yes inflation is up.
Up 5 to 10% not 100%.
Sharks New Price + 5 euro for 30 minutes +10 euro for 1 hour.
Walk if they don't agree to 10% increase. Walk away.
100 euro for 30 minutes is 100% increase.
Was inflation 100%.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2696991]I wouldn't fret too much about missing Penelope. If you've been to Gold, it's not all that different, perhaps a little livelier atmosphere, plus it's super far away from any where you may find yourself unless you're for some reason passing through Dortmund. I go there when friends want to visit or if am passing by when taking the northern route from Amsterdam to Frankfurt. Actually Oase and Penelope is not a bad itinerary if you're traversing Hessen and NRW. I've had a couple of trips when I started the morning in Amsterdam, stop through Penelope mid afternoon and end up at Oase at 11 pm or midnight. But anyway, just a budget club with occasional gems. Average service, optics, and amenities are not exceptional.[/QUOTE]Better to know how work clubs to see the best. For sure, Penelope, even Gold brother, is not at best in the afternoon. All those who know a bit about business, know about.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2697016]Here are the New fees for All FKK.
Yes inflation is up.
Up 5 to 10% not 100%.
Sharks New Price + 5 euro for 30 minutes +10 euro for 1 hour.
Walk if they don't agree to 10% increase. Walk away.
100 euro for 30 minutes is 100% increase.
Was inflation 100%.[/QUOTE]Do you decide the inflation?
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I was there last night
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2697016]Here are the New fees for All FKK.
Yes inflation is up.
Up 5 to 10% not 100%.
Sharks New Price + 5 euro for 30 minutes +10 euro for 1 hour.
Walk if they don't agree to 10% increase. Walk away.
100 euro for 30 minutes is 100% increase.
Was inflation 100%.[/QUOTE]Since none of my usual girls are here, I had one session with 2 pops for 150 euro with a random girl that turned out to be a dead fish that was horribly bad. Then tried to have a 30 min /50 euro session to test them out but no one remotely attractive agreed. It looked like most of the girls had the mindset she would be categorized as a "lesser tier" if she took the 30 min /50 euro offer.
I have asked around a bunch of people yesterday and pretty much everyone was paying 100/30 or struggling to also find a 50 euro girl.
P.S.: didn't ask anyone above 80 kg or 35+ years old.
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Well, arriving at Oase at 10 pm /11 pm from Penelope means I'm leaving Penelope at about 9 pm which is nighttime and not the afternoon, so there's that. I believe the entire Penelope line up has already arrived by 8 pm. Could even be at Sharks before midnight but those who know about the business wouldn't bother arriving at Sharks that late. Oase is a better choice for late night if pairing with an afternoon / early evening club. But I'm no expert I guess.
Anyway, I hope the OP finds the suggested itinerary helpful in the future if he wants to incorporate some out of the way clubs on his way for a late evening in Hessen.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2697016]Here are the New fees for All FKK.
Sharks New Price + 5 euro for 30 minutes +10 euro for 1 hour.
.[/QUOTE]Is the +5/+10 official price? Or just your price?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2697323]Well, arriving at Oase at 10 pm /11 pm from Penelope means I'm leaving Penelope at about 9 pm which is nighttime and not the afternoon, so there's that. I believe the entire Penelope line up has already arrived by 8 pm. Could even be at Sharks before midnight but those who know about the business wouldn't bother arriving at Sharks that late. Oase is a better choice for late night if pairing with an afternoon / early evening club. But I'm no expert I guess.
Anyway, I hope the OP finds the suggested itinerary helpful in the future if he wants to incorporate some out of the way clubs on his way for a late evening in Hessen.[/QUOTE]If you are able to arrive at Oase before 11 pm when leaving Penelope at 9 pm, when Germany is world champion for works on autobahns, with radars around Koln, then I would like to follow you, or you never really did the run. Yes, some girls arrive late when biggest business is Balkanian or a vampire who is stronger stamina than them. I love having sex at 3/4 am, even when I didn't sleep on previous nights, then feeling relax after.
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Brenda
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2696386]Brenda charges 100/30 and depending on the day she might also want 200/60 nowadays. Most of her sessions are 30 minutes (or less) anyway so she's not fond of longer sessions because she "loses" money with 150/60 basically. A luxury off course for her because she rarely needs to wait for a customer longtime and most of the clients go with her after a short chat so she doesn't lose a lot of time.[/QUOTE]I've had Brenda a couple of times back in the day (used to call herself Brandy first time I saw her) and was fairly basic service though not a rip off and she has a body and a face I couldn't resist. Were normal prices but last time I spoke to her (all pre-pandemic) she was positioning herself as 150/60 minutes but with FL and BBBJ. Perhaps she's trying to get more now and if she does offer old prices for old customers maybe pretend you've seen her before!
She's always been one of the most stunning women at Sharks but never seen her too busy as she doesn't work the room and nor does she give off a friendly vibe and usually looks miserable which must put a lot of potential customers off. A smile and some eye contact and she'the be constantly busy.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2697411]Is the +5/+10 official price? Or just your price?[/QUOTE]Most of Hessen girls new rate seem now 100/30 and at least 150/60 but even 200/60 for average look Claudia. I could pay 150/60 for fresh, just arrived Catalea without heavy make up at this time, when no look like her at Globe for 300/60, but many not pretty girls think they worth same rate. On October 2021, at Sixens NL, I got really good rooms with girls who would be among the few prettiest at Sharks, for 100/60, then club increased rate to 60/30 and 110/60 , and now Irina or Ina ask extra for FK, when nothing asked when rate was 50 per 30 mn. When Sharks casting is not on same level than on 2021, big clubs may not be best quality now.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2697791]She's always been one of the most stunning women at Sharks but never seen her too busy as she doesn't work the room and nor does she give off a friendly vibe and usually looks miserable which must put a lot of potential customers off. A smile and some eye contact and she'the be constantly busy.[/QUOTE]Good point. She certainly does look very intimidating, like she's about to reject or snap on anyone who approaches her. Also, she's not new so perhaps many regulars are looking for something different.
She's been there for years, so it's just interesting to know if or what her end game is. She said she has regular clients, and I imagine it's hard to leave that type of fast money behind. Even just 5 clients a day, for 5 days a week, and 4 weeks a month, is more than what many folks could make in three months.
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Report 14 may 22
All long time reader of the forum, here is something back.
In club 4 pm till 3:30 am. €65 entry. Only my 2nd time here but have been to other FKK in Zurich and Austria.
Facilities:
Locker room and shower area are good and more importantly clean. In this area as its all communal expect to be naked and see other men naked. Only downside for me is there was only one urinal there and as busy on a Saturday could do with more. Your given a robe and sandals to wear. You will not see any ladies here.
As is the case in all FKK I have been to, you get an armband at reception on this is a key that opens both lockers you have access to. One in the locket room and the other is a small locker to keep your more high value items such as wallet and phone. The small lockers are to your right when you enter the club proper. There is also a small scan pad on the armband used to pay for alcoholic drinks at the bar and you fix up the bill at reception on leaving.
Club.
Well think modern nightclub with about seating for approx nearly 200. There is a long rectangular bar near the door side. The seating area is beyond the bar after you enter. It's a medium to large size place so expect to get your bearings fairly quickly. It's also fairly dark. Downside alot of smoking going on but that is to be expected in most FKK.
The canteen area was not been used that much as the food was served outside from 5 pm. The food a buffet of meats, paste, stir fry was very basic enough and I rated it much higher last October. Tip go out at 5 as the good stuff goes quick or does not stay warm. There was approx 80 guys or more in the club at 5 and more than 50% were outside getting food or at the outside pool.
Girls. Girls. Girls.
On entering at 5 I would estimate about 55 raising to 65 to 70 from 6 pm till 10 pm. Tampering down to 50 at 12 am to 2:30 am. When I left 3:30 am I would say only about 20 left.
My opinion category breakdown.
18 to 25 year old youthful, pretty and slim / skinny 20%.
26 to 35 year old good looking, experienced ladies of the game 50%.
35+ mediocre look should retire 15%.
The fatties and uglies should not be let in make up the last 15% A few real bad ones.
So something for all tastes and about 30% had fake tits. Tip go outside and watch the ladies go get sometime to eat after 5. For me it put on about 5 years in daylight and dropped them down the scale one or two points to about 50% of the ladies. If the looks hold up in daylight you got a keeper LOL. They will also come to the door and look out and go back in again.
About 25 girls sit around the bar with the others around the seating area. Nearly all the girls will get up and cycle the bar on a walkabout at some stage so if you sit with an eye to the bar you should see them all at some stage.
An observation the more established long term girls are around the bar. The less established experienced the further from the bar. The alfa females are at the bar LOL.
My experience with most talking to them was that they are cool and it's what you make of it. On your first hour expect to be approached every 10 minutes at least and then it cools off to the point you have to go and hunt out the ones you want. Tip go immediately and talk to the one you want. See the vibe she has and off you go for €100 for 30 if you want.
In the end I got a taxi to the Airport T1 for €52.
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[QUOTE=TravelBless;2697847]All long time reader of the forum, here is something back.
In club 4 pm till 3:30 am. 65 entry. Only my 2nd time here but have been to other FKK in Zurich and Austria.
Facilities:
Locker room and shower area are good and more importantly clean. In this area as its all communal expect to be naked and see other men naked. Only downside for me is there was only one urinal there and as busy on a Saturday could do with more. Your given a robe and sandals to wear. You will not see any ladies here.
As is the case in all FKK I have been to, you get an armband at reception on this is a key that opens both lockers you have access to. One in the locket room and the other is a small locker to keep your more high value items such as wallet and phone. The small lockers are to your right when you enter the club proper. There is also a small scan pad on the armband used to pay for alcoholic drinks at the bar and you fix up the bill at reception on leaving.
Club.
Well think modern nightclub with about seating for approx nearly 200. There is a long rectangular bar near the door side. The seating area is beyond the bar after you enter. It's a medium to large size place so expect to get your bearings fairly quickly. It's also fairly dark. Downside alot of smoking going on but that is to be expected in most FKK.
The canteen area was not been used that much as the food was served outside from 5 pm. The food a buffet of meats, paste, stir fry was very basic enough and I rated it much higher last October. Tip go out at 5 as the good stuff goes quick or does not stay warm. There was approx 80 guys or more in the club at 5 and more than 50% were outside getting food or at the outside pool.
Girls. Girls. Girls.
On entering at 5 I would estimate about 55 raising to 65 to 70 from 6 pm till 10 pm. Tampering down to 50 at 12 am to 2:30 am. When I left 3:30 am I would say only about 20 left.
My opinion category breakdown.
18 to 25 year old youthful, pretty and slim / skinny 20%.
26 to 35 year old good looking, experienced ladies of the game 50%.
35+ mediocre look should retire 15%.
The fatties and uglies should not be let in make up the last 15% A few real bad ones.
So something for all tastes and about 30% had fake tits. Tip go outside and watch the ladies go get sometime to eat after 5. For me it put on about 5 years in daylight and dropped them down the scale one or two points to about 50% of the ladies. If the looks hold up in daylight you got a keeper LOL. They will also come to the door and look out and go back in again.
About 25 girls sit around the bar with the others around the seating area. Nearly all the girls will get up and cycle the bar on a walkabout at some stage so if you sit with an eye to the bar you should see them all at some stage.
An observation the more established long term girls are around the bar. The less established experienced the further from the bar. The alfa females are at the bar LOL.
My experience with most talking to them was that they are cool and it's what you make of it. On your first hour expect to be approached every 10 minutes at least and then it cools off to the point you have to go and hunt out the ones you want. Tip go immediately and talk to the one you want. See the vibe she has and off you go for 100 for 30 if you want.
In the end I got a taxi to the Airport T1 for 52.[/QUOTE]There are two bathrooms in the locker area. One near the entrance and one near the back. There is a bathroom in the lounge area as well. I am no expert on the place but it is good to know where the toilets are.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2697912]There are two bathrooms in the locker area. One near the entrance and one near the back. There is a bathroom in the lounge area as well. I am no expert on the place but it is good to know where the toilets are.[/QUOTE]And in the garden and upstairs close to jacuzzi and at the end of corridor to rooms. Many. Also close to ex kino.
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[QUOTE=TravelBless;2697847]All long time reader of the forum, here is something back.
In club 4 pm till 3:30 am. 65 entry. Only my 2nd time here but have been to other FKK in Zurich and Austria.
Facilities:
Locker room and shower area are good and more importantly clean. In this area as its all communal expect to be naked and see other men naked. Only downside for me is there was only one urinal there and as busy on a Saturday could do with more. Your given a robe and sandals to wear. You will not see any ladies here.
As is the case in all FKK I have been to, you get an armband at reception on this is a key that opens both lockers you have access to. One in the locket room and the other is a small locker to keep your more high value items such as wallet and phone. The small lockers are to your right when you enter the club proper. There is also a small scan pad on the armband used to pay for alcoholic drinks at the bar and you fix up the bill at reception on leaving..[/QUOTE]Yes, girls who think they are the best hold the bar, when some who are better and deserve to be known, nearly hide. My best on 2021, most elegant, GFE and with skill for BJ, hide in the dark. I prefer normal foods than bad meat BBQ, but I love to see girls skin for real under sun.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2697816]Good point. She certainly does look very intimidating, like she's about to reject or snap on anyone who approaches her. Also, she's not new so perhaps many regulars are looking for something different.
She's been there for years, so it's just interesting to know if or what her end game is. She said she has regular clients, and I imagine it's hard to leave that type of fast money behind. Even just 5 clients a day, for 5 days a week, and 4 weeks a month, is more than what many folks could make in three months.[/QUOTE]Make more than 10000 and I would not be surprised she makes more than 500 daily, when many girls told they wanted 1000 daily before covid when rate was 50/30. I knew Velbert superstar who made more than 20 rabbits per day and me, slow turtle for 80/60 and she made 1000 daily on 2015/2016 and even more at Bruggen after, sometimes booked whole day.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2697816]Good point. She certainly does look very intimidating, like she's about to reject or snap on anyone who approaches her. Also, she's not new so perhaps many regulars are looking for something different.
She's been there for years, so it's just interesting to know if or what her end game is. She said she has regular clients, and I imagine it's hard to leave that type of fast money behind. Even just 5 clients a day, for 5 days a week, and 4 weeks a month, is more than what many folks could make in three months.[/QUOTE]I always thought she could kick me with her heavy naturals, so I didn't dare to talk to her.
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Wednesday report
Sharks is in full swing today. Weather is very nice and a lot of customers showed up, so were the girls. I estimated there were at least 100 girls working. Too many silicons but you should be able to find someone you like due to the quantities of girls. A lot of old faces from pre-pandemic though.
The best looking ones are still asking 100/30 m firmly so they are very much available. There's no super star currently in sharks and no one is getting booked nonstop as far as I can tell. I suspect for the average girl the price is or will shortly be coming down. At least a few are asking 120/30 m with CIM and they are decent looking young girls. I can't image the 6's and 7's can hold the new price structure for much longer. Only time can tell though how the price structure settles down. For us, the non regulars, we might have to negotiate on an individual basis. That's a pain in the butt to be honest.
Tried a few girls that have been talked recently. Julie is kind average both in terms of face and body. Service is good and honest but she is too average and too business for me. Probably will not repeat. Claudia is very thin. She looks like Amal Clooney to me but has darker skin. Will repeat but far from a favorite.
BBQ is horrible. Way overcooked beef and pork. Tasteless sausage. Chicken breast has too much salt. More import, No more lamb chops!
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[QUOTE=DukesFord;2695985]For me it was 100 for 30 and 50 for COT, I only did 30 minutes. Total 150. Same service level as all past experiences, I always thought she aimed to please and I've roomed with her many times. I will continue to room with her until her service changes.[/QUOTE]The last I was there in summer of 2019 (last time I was there! She stood firm with 100 for 30 minutes, which at the time was high to me when everybody else charged 50/30. I even tried for 150/60 and she flat out refused. That was my second time going with her to the room, and she charged $50/30 the first time. Always wondered why the upcharge!
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There are a lot of girls on Saturday morning? I plan to go there at noon 12 pm.
And I'm wondering where to go between shark and oase.
To meet pretty girls, do you recommend shark?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2697944]Yes, girls who think they are the best hold the bar, when some who are better and deserve to be known, nearly hide. My best on 2021, most elegant, GFE and with skill for BJ, hide in the dark. I prefer normal foods than bad meat BBQ, but I love to see girls skin for real under sun.[/QUOTE]I agree, some of the best ones are the hiders you have to get up and go find.
[QUOTE=TravelBless;2697847]
The fatties and uglies should not be let in make up the last 15% A few real bad ones.
[/QUOTE]Yes, there's some eyesores in the building. It sucks that there isn't any type of vetting.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2699451]I agree, some of the best ones are the hiders you have to get up and go find.
Yes, there's some eyesores in the building. It sucks that there isn't any type of vetting.[/QUOTE]My best Sharks girl on 2021 , when Catalea lost freshness in bed and for face putting heavy make up, told me she didn t get good business when she was the most elegant and a true GFE, so I told her: but why do You hide, why don t You choose better location to be better seen? Maybe she preferred to stay with Cena and she didn t want to fight with girls trying to show to get business, when a woman look versus prostitutes images, too elegant for Sharks clients when exciting my desire. I miss my ladyT. My Sharks rooms on 2022 with Colombian Marta ex Palace or lovely German Vanessa were not on her level when she was for 100/60 for me, like Cena.
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I've never been to an FFK but have finally, after following this thread for some time, decided to take the step and am planning to go to FKK Sharks in a weeks time.
I have a very specific goal for this visit: Try anal for the first time.
I'm wondering how the pricing for anal works. I've seen it mentioned that anal is 100 euro for 30 min, but is that on top of the regular 100/30 pricing? So it would be 200/30?
If so, can you start off with normal fuck and then go anal after a few minutes?
Also do you need to bring your own soap / shampoo?
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[QUOTE=RastaGold;2699867]Try anal for the first time. So it would be 200/30? If so, can you start off with normal fuck and then go anal after a few minutes?[/QUOTE]You're anal arithmetics are ok as well as the procedure.
[QUOTE=RastaGold;2699867]Also do you need to bring your own soap / shampoo?[/QUOTE]You can bring with you your beautycase if needed. But you can get bathrobe, an unlimited number of towels and you even don't have to pay for shower gel and water. In case you want to brush your teeth please bring your own tooth brush, tooth paste and perhaps dental floss and mouthwash with you.
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[QUOTE=Tedesco;2699923]In case you want to brush your teeth please bring your own tooth brush, tooth paste and perhaps dental floss and mouthwash with you.[/QUOTE]Mouthwash suppled HA! Saved another buck (or euro).
A friend actually brings his own soap and the girls two nights ago said how nice he smelled since all the rest of "us" smell like the cheap crap they have in the place.
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Sharks on a Thursday
My 5th FKK across Germany in as many days: Hamburg 2 X, Dusseldorf, Cologne; this time with a wingman who usually meets me in Frankfurt. I would guess over 100 ladies present, I start to count. See breasts of every shape and size. Loose track. Give up counting. Girls out number the guys it seems almost 2 to 1.
First facilities. If you haven't been. The back yard was open and they were grilling dinner. ** Lots of people stretched out in the sun and heat (almost 90 degrees). Some sitting by the pool. Outside the girls glide by with smiles but don't seem to address you as much. Inside into the main 'living room / bar' area they block your path. Hey baby. What you doing. Take me to a room! At first it is a bit over powering but then the game seems easy to slip into. , you see it all around. Small talk. Some hugs kisse, both moving on to the next encounter. Occasionally guys grab the bait and off they go.
Who to chose? With so many women you get eye strain. You get momentary dizziness. The tall skinny blond. Will she be better than the shorter curvier brunette. What about the two on the couch in the corner. My friend put words to the dilemma: Too many to chose from. Momentary paralysis. Buyers angst. Plus it seems darker in the corners than I remember. So many girls packed into the right side of the place, on the couches facing upstairs or those behind. Much tighter packed with ladies than I remember over there. I remember the 3 "Russians" who used to sit at the foot of the stairs, trying to get you to take 1 or 2 back for massages.
I'm on the lefty side of the bar and the tall stately brunette with short hair is with one of her regulars. Next to her stands the Romanian blond with magnificenly large breasts. Both (5'10 in stripper heels. They seem to move around more than usual. And both are almost always with clientele they know.
The blond is wearing a pair of very sheer high waisted panties. I can see her magnificent ass through the back. The brunette has a towel around her waist and then takes it off. Like a deer in headlights, I'm clearly getting whiplash and realize I've let all the ladies know I'm looking for a room. A smaller blond comes up. Azalea. Rubs her fingers over my nipples. I have now forgotten everything else. But there are still women in dark corners. I need to keep looking. Then I see a tiny brunette. Tiny breasts with nipples pointing out. Nadine. Hair pulled into a bun on top of head. Make up. I am hooked, even though I know the rule, generally, very nice make up "Don't touch my face baby! She also has glasses on that she says she got today to make her look "more different". Fake glasses.
Up to the room. Nice kissing Long BJ. Then lots of sex. I decide to end it in her mouth Off comes the condom and she is working hard to get me to finish. Maybe too hard and too mechanical. After a bit she stops and says. "Baby. Why you not want my ass? Now we all know it's a game. What will earn the most money. On comes a new condom and boom like vice grips on a bolt. Her ass muscles are AMAZING And then the magic words. Come on baby hard. Go for it. Wow. This is why we come to Sharks. Total damages 200. Never once did we discuss time, since for me "time=til I'm done". After she is in no hurry to leave. Informs me a regular is going to meet her in a bit so she has to kill a bit of time (lucky me).
Dinner break. My friend spots a blond he remembers, mid late twenties. Wavy hair. Sitting to the left of the bar at the side. Off they go. I'm at the bar and meet a friendly guy from toronto First time in the club. His eyes are the size of headlamps. I know that look Great chat. We begin to search for the next adventure. I do wish I had gone with Azalea when she was free. Andhow can I NOT mention the older woman. Is she 60 now. I see her walking up the stairs with a young guy on her arm, later back down. Again, several times that night, up to rooms and back down. Got to think this is one of the features of Sharks. Shapes, sizes, ages for every need.
Tomorrow Last night in town, Going to Palace. Reports to follow.
**P.S. There was a terrible downpour, high winds and they closed the back. Grilled chicken, meat, and sausages, lots of sides. Not the same once the food came in and sat. Beer in a chaise chair, clean fresh air, had to be exchanged for a dark room, with too much smoke and couches or bar stools. OH well, no matter how good things are, we men complain!
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2699935]My 5th FKK across Germany in as many days: Hamburg 2 X, Dusseldorf, Cologne; this time with a wingman who usually meets me in Frankfurt. I would guess over 100 ladies present, I start to count. See breasts of every shape and size. Loose track. Give up counting. Girls out number the guys it seems almost 2 to 1.
First facilities. If you haven't been. The back yard was open and they were grilling dinner. ** Lots of people stretched out in the sun and heat (almost 90 degrees). Some sitting by the pool. Outside the girls glide by with smiles but don't seem to address you as much. Inside into the main 'living room / bar' area they block your path. Hey baby. What you doing. Take me to a room! At first it is a bit over powering but then the game seems easy to slip into. , you see it all around. Small talk. Some hugs kisse, both moving on to the next encounter. Occasionally guys grab the bait and off they go.
Who to chose? With so many women you get eye strain. You get momentary dizziness. The tall skinny blond. Will she be better than the shorter curvier brunette. What about the two on the couch in the corner. My friend put words to the dilemma: Too many to chose from. Momentary paralysis. Buyers angst. Plus it seems darker in the corners than I remember. So many girls packed into the right side of the place, on the couches facing upstairs or those behind. Much tighter packed with ladies than I remember over there. I remember the 3 "Russians" who used to sit at the foot of the stairs, trying to get you to take 1 or 2 back for massages..[/QUOTE]You are lucky if You find too much choice, when not enough wow beauties for me on 2022. I visited weekly on 2021. Not sure Sharks is in my top 5 on this year, so I enjoy more with higher level girls, some for less expensive, elsewhere. Unfortunately, like on 2017, Sharks fell on tourists level.
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[QUOTE=Tedesco;2699923]You're anal arithmetics are ok as well as the procedure.
You can bring with you your beautycase if needed. But you can get bathrobe, an unlimited number of towels and you even don't have to pay for shower gel and water. In case you want to brush your teeth please bring your own tooth brush, tooth paste and perhaps dental floss and mouthwash with you.[/QUOTE]Free water? What a great deal! I'll bring my beautycase with all the dental stuff, shampoo and a couple of conditioners and maybe some lotion and. Nah, just joking, but thanks for your reply. It was actually helpful.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2699935]......Andhow can I NOT mention the older woman. Is she 60 now. I see her walking up the stairs with a young guy on her arm, later back down. Again, several times that night, up to rooms and back down......[/QUOTE]Sylvania is still at Sharks?? And busier than the younger girls? How does she do it?
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How does she do it! I'll tell you young padawan.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2699993]Sylvania is still at Sharks?? And busier than the younger girls? How does she do it?[/QUOTE]Is she a shark (aggressive), yes!
Is she on the prowl looking for targets walking around the club, yes!
Is she very experienced, yes!
Does she give good service, hell yes!
Does she give you what you want, yes!
Will she let you do what you want, yes!
Is she cheap, yes!
If you know her or have been with her, like me, you'd know why guys return or why younger men get entrapped by her.
She knows she's not a young chicken, so she has to work harder and provide more for less to stay around.
Add in a little more experience than the young bitchy little Romanians that think they'll make $5,000/ month with sub average looks, sub average service, a sub par attitude and you have a recipe for a real working pro!
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2700050]Is she very experienced, yes!
Does she give good service, hell yes![/QUOTE]What good is excellent service if it's a lady I can't even get it up for? LOL.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2700050]Is she a shark (aggressive), yes!
Is she on the prowl looking for targets walking around the club, yes!
Is she very experienced, yes!
Does she give good service, hell yes!
Does she give you what you want, yes!
Will she let you do what you want, yes!
Is she cheap, yes!
If you know her or have been with her, like me, you'd know why guys return or why younger men get entrapped by her.
She knows she's not a young chicken, so she has to work harder and provide more for less to stay around.
Add in a little more experience than the young bitchy little Romanians that think they'll make $5,000/ month with sub average looks, sub average service, a sub par attitude and you have a recipe for a real working pro![/QUOTE]I saw many times young good looking guys returning with banana on face from her. Except prostate massage I'm not into and very natural sex, I think she also knows young guys are less demanding from low knowledge about sex.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2699993]Sylvania is still at Sharks?? And busier than the younger girls?? How does she do it??[/QUOTE]Yup she was was there the couple nights I was there in early May. I didn't see her score as much as I noticed her doing rooms three years ago. She is very confident and bold in approaching any guy she recognizes is new to the club. She wraps herself around him. Also she is smart enough to remember whatever I told her a few years ago because she doesn't talk to me anymore. I don't remember what I said to have her quit bothering me but glad it has worked.
BTW after looking at her body more closely I'm sure she was a knockout beauty 30 to 40 years ago. In her mind she still is. Good for her.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2699993]Sylvania is still at Sharks?? And busier than the younger girls?? How does she do it??[/QUOTE]Fetish. Some folks have an older lady fetish. And she probably offers good discounts/service compared to others.
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New pricing dumb question
Now my testosterone has come back following hormone therapy, I have just started reading the forum again. Has it really gone up to 100 for half an hour? Really?
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2700298]Now my testosterone has come back following hormone therapy, I have just started reading the forum again. Has it really gone up to 100 for half an hour? Really?[/QUOTE]And some not even really able to French kiss for this expensive rate, same than at Globe where few are also not able for 150/30.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2700298]Has it really gone up to 100 for half an hour? Really?[/QUOTE]Depends on the woman. Are you really going to let 100 stop you from having fun with a woman you hand picked out of the dozens you had to ignore or reject? Probably not, and the women know that too.
But there's plenty of old, fat, and cubby women who will gladly quote you less than 100 if price is your concern.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2700298]Now my testosterone has come back following hormone therapy, I have just started reading the forum again. Has it really gone up to 100 for half an hour? Really?[/QUOTE]Since 2017, the clubs cannot enforce pricing for the girls who work there on their own.
But 50 euro was a price point ever since 2007, so with the High inflation recently I guess 100 euro is fair. Maybe inflation doesn't quite say +100% since 2007, but it shouldn't be too far from it now. Not that it matters. 50 is definitely too low and doesn't attract many hot girls.
When that is said, it is crazy how the girls only want 50 euro notes. As if 10's or 20's never even mattered. So the leap is a bit high.
But when You agree on 100 euro, it won't be long till the same girls start wanting 150. And some already do according to some punters LOL.
But with the current pricing climate, 150 e for 30 min at FKKs would ruin too much of the market. So any clubs with business on their minds would take action against this. And it probably won't be smart for the girls sense of business either in terms of repeat customers. They think they are smart, but only as far as the idea goes that men don't talk. Which well, is what we do here for example.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699962]You are lucky if You find too much choice, when not enough wow beauties for me on 2022. I visited weekly on 2021. Not sure Sharks is in my top 5 on this year, so I enjoy more with higher level girls, some for less expensive, elsewhere. Unfortunately, like on 2017, Sharks fell on tourists level.[/QUOTE]What are your favorites now?
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[QUOTE=Tedesco;2699923]You're anal arithmetics are ok as well as the procedure.
You can bring with you your beautycase if needed. But you can get bathrobe, an unlimited number of towels and you even don't have to pay for shower gel and water. In case you want to brush your teeth please bring your own tooth brush, tooth paste and perhaps dental floss and mouthwash with you.[/QUOTE]I actually did brush my teeth and flossed. The tricky part is getting a glass so you don't have to drink from the tap. I need to remember to bring a colapsible cup. I just thought I would add something strange but true.
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Comparisons
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2699962]You are lucky if You find too much choice, when not enough wow beauties for me on 2022. I visited weekly on 2021. Not sure Sharks is in my top 5 on this year, so I enjoy more with higher level girls, some for less expensive, elsewhere. Unfortunately, like on 2017, Sharks fell on tourists level.[/QUOTE]This issue is always supply and price. But for me in my local community anal sex with a beauty is minimum 600-800 $. CIM is often not offered. So when I go into Sharks and see a dozen girls I am willing to take to a room and 6-9 say yes to what ever I'm in the mood for, it's hard not to be completely happy. I think if I lived in Germany all the time I too would be less enthusiastic.
There are two ladies at Palace I like. I see them every visit. That club is in my top 5. Maybe one of these two ladies isn't attractive to some people? I won't get into personal taste -but maybe you would agree- if everyone used the same scale for beauty gcertain girls at any FKK would never have ANY business?
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2700398]What are your favorites now?[/QUOTE]When I prefer only 1 really good girl rather than 100 average, on this year I prefer Amesia. Ch, Penelope, Gold and 6 NL where I see more attractive girls than on my 2022 visits at Sharks with no wow. Big hopes for YY NL reopening and will discover FKK Tirol. At. Sharks was better on 2021 with less tourists, but falling, quite same level than Globe at the moment. Only 1 really good girl can make my day with 2 or 3 rooms, or marathon sex, when sometimes I am not attracted among 100.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2700407]This issue is always supply and price. But for me in my local community anal sex with a beauty is minimum 600-800 $. CIM is often not offered. So when I go into Sharks and see a dozen girls I am willing to take to a room and 6-9 say yes to what ever I'm in the mood for, it's hard not to be completely happy. I think if I lived in Germany all the time I too would be less enthusiastic.
There are two ladies at Palace I like. I see them every visit. That club is in my top 5. Maybe one of these two ladies isn't attractive to some people? I won't get into personal taste -but maybe you would agree- if everyone used the same scale for beauty certain girls at any FKK would never have ANY business?[/QUOTE]Of course, level of expectation and demand depend on what you were or are used. If you see US or French women, you don't have same standards about women looks, same if you are focused on porn or you love women. For me, prettiest and most elegant are always the best because the most exciting inspiring the most my desire, when I can t understand paying for granny silicon, even to have prostate touched or for AO in old. I miss my elegant at Sharks. I enjoyed so much immaculate virgin look from Argau. Ch, without tattoo, nor piercing, nor silicon.
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If Sharks is too expensive for you
I suggest you could try Aco gold club. Now most girls there still accept 40 for30 (although reluctantly), including 5 elite girls Natalia, Ellie, Dalida, Florentina and Jassica. All these five girls could be in top 20 in Sharks. Siri could verify that.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2700050]Is she a shark (aggressive), yes!
Is she on the prowl looking for targets walking around the club, yes!
Is she very experienced, yes!
Does she give good service, hell yes!
Does she give you what you want, yes!
Will she let you do what you want, yes!
Is she cheap, yes!
If you know her or have been with her, like me, you'd know why guys return or why younger men get entrapped by her.
She knows she's not a young chicken, so she has to work harder and provide more for less to stay around.
Add in a little more experience than the young bitchy little Romanians that think they'll make $5,000/ month with sub average looks, sub average service, a sub par attitude and you have a recipe for a real working pro![/QUOTE]I think I would have banged Sylvania, as she looks now, when I was a teen, without paying of course. I could not have afforded prostitutes then.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2700358]Depends on the woman. Are you really going to let 100 stop you from having fun with a woman you hand picked out of the dozens you had to ignore or reject? Probably not, and the women know that too.
But there's plenty of old, fat, and cubby women who will gladly quote you less than 100 if price is your concern.[/QUOTE]No reason to be like this. 100 is a 100% increase from before the pandemic. Inflation is high. But not 100%. The guy is just amazed. I'm sure he is not interested in what's on offer for 50.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2700455]I suggest you could try Aco gold club. Now most girls there still accept 40 for30 (although reluctantly), including 5 elite girls Natalia, Ellie, Dalida, Florentina and Jassica. All these five girls could be in top 20 in Sharks. Siri could verify that.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure for 40/30 for Florentina, but I confirm Natalia and Eli would not be in top 20, but at least in top 5, on Catalea level for look, and only Marina. Lat could compete with my Hungarian woman at Gold. I prefer Gold and Penelope than Sharks on 2022, with far higher level girls.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2700401]..... tricky part is getting a glass so you don't have to drink from the tap ..... something strange but true ....[/QUOTE]Glasses are also available or take a cup and store it in your locker until leaving or some simple plastic cups close to the orange juice dispenser during breakfast time.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2700360]But with the current pricing climate, 150 e for 30 min at FKKs would ruin too much of the market..[/QUOTE]Not yet.
As I know last weekend in Sharks, several stunners have started to quote 4 CE for 60 min with GFE+BBJ, but not 150/30 yet.
150 e for 30 min should include CIM. Of course, requesting extra 20-50 euro tips becomes prevalent among top girls.
German retirees get biggest pension hikes this year for 3 decades. Now local old could afford girls surcharges.
But you still could find cheaper providers in NRW regions clubs. 40 for30.
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[QUOTE=LoverBoy#2;2700582]No reason to be like this. 100 is a 100% increase from before the pandemic. Inflation is high. But not 100%. The guy is just amazed. I'm sure he is not interested in what's on offer for 50.[/QUOTE]There is no monger destination on planet earth where prices haven't increased. The old days of cheap prices are long gone. Even before the pandemic, prices were increasing in all mongering spots.
I don't want the ugly, fat, old, tattoo, plastic surgery, chubby, or desperate women offering discounts. I dont want to go to Eros Center (Frankfurts Red light District) to screw fat Bulgarians after walking up 20 flights of stairs.
White/European sex workers will never be cheap, mongering will never be cheap, it’s an expensive hobby you have to work into your budget to account for inflation.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2700830]There is no monger destination on planet earth where prices haven't increased. The old days of cheap prices are long gone. Even before the pandemic, prices were increasing in all mongering spots.
I don't want the ugly, fat, old, tattoo, plastic surgery, chubby, or desperate women offering discounts. I dont want to go to Eros Center (Frankfurts Red light District) to screw fat Bulgarians after walking up 20 flights of stairs.
White/European sex workers will never be cheap, mongering will never be cheap, its an expensive hobby you have to work into your budget to account for inflation.[/QUOTE]But do you know there are other FKK than Sharks, and same in Switzerland about Globe. In some other clubs, there are prettier girls than at Sharks on 2022 and with higher level for less expensive. For example, I found a really high level with charm for 80/60 . My outstanding, choosing me first, German with all what I want and her squirting included is for less than now Sharks rate, 1 hour with her is for not much more than 30 mn at Sharks and I enjoy how she wants to please me and full kissing. So, I don t need to visit falling Sharks now.
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Will $100 stop the fun? No, but it will limit it to half!
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2700358]Depends on the woman. Are you really going to let 100 stop you from having fun with a woman you hand picked out of the dozens you had to ignore or reject? Probably not, and the women know that too.
But there's plenty of old, fat, and cubby women who will gladly quote you less than 100 if price is your concern.[/QUOTE]If I vacation for 30 days a year to punt and I visit a club 10 times in the 30 days and on average I go to the room 5-6 times per visit, that's a total of 50 rooms x $50 = $2,500.
If it's now $100 per room, then that increases my spending to $5,000, which will be out of my punting budget and will now limit my rooms to 3 or maybe 4 times per club visit.
So the bottom line is, now I'll only have half as much fun.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2700830]There is no monger destination on planet earth where prices haven't increased. The old days of cheap prices are long gone. Even before the pandemic, prices were increasing in all mongering spots.
I don't want the ugly, fat, old, tattoo, plastic surgery, chubby, or desperate women offering discounts. I dont want to go to Eros Center (Frankfurts Red light District) to screw fat Bulgarians after walking up 20 flights of stairs.
White/European sex workers will never be cheap, mongering will never be cheap, its an expensive hobby you have to work into your budget to account for inflation.[/QUOTE]I think most people concede to some price increases but it's the degree that is happening in Hessen that is the problem. For instance, NRW clubs have not seen as much of an effect. In fact, mostly no increase at all with the exception of some girls at some clubs asking for BBBJ upcharge which was already happening after the 2017 condom laws. Or the 10 euro increase at Babylon and 6 Sense. Hessen inflation seems to be the numerical outlier to me.
Usually what happens during recessions is that luxury brands are able to absorb the hit better because they have more room to adjust prices versus generic basic goods. Also, look at what is happening in the car market that has yet to adjust luxury model prices. Brands like BMW are seeing the worst declines in sales while Kia and Volkswagen are seeing half of the losses (20%+ with BMW versus 10-12% in economy cars).
What's happening in Hessen is counter to the expected trend of price increases during a recession.
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Just trying to add info
First thanks everybody for posting I learned a lot from reading the FN forum.
First I took the S Bahn from Frankfurt to sharks, there's a private section with a glass door so I sat there, when they came to check the tickets I was sitting I guess the first class section (never heard of a first class section on a subway) so they charged me a $60 fine.
Second, sharks has a great club, I was there before Covid, but I've been too many of FKK clubs this is one of the best.
Third, I took a session with Sylvia just for the experience, she did her best.
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[QUOTE=Sailor501;2701057]First thanks everybody for posting I learned a lot from reading the FN forum.
First I took the S Bahn from Frankfurt to sharks, there's a private section with a glass door so I sat there, when they came to check the tickets I was sitting I guess the first class section (never heard of a first class section on a subway) so they charged me a $60 fine.
Second, sharks has a great club, I was there before Covid, but I've been too many of FKK clubs this is one of the best.
Third, I took a session with Sylvia just for the experience, she did her best.[/QUOTE]Was her best good enough for you?
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2700769]Not yet.
As I know last weekend in Sharks, several stunners have started to quote 4 CE for 60 min with GFE+BBJ, but not 150/30 yet.
150 e for 30 min should include CIM. Of course, requesting extra 20-50 euro tips becomes prevalent among top girls.
German retirees get biggest pension hikes this year for 3 decades. Now local old could afford girls surcharges.
But you still could find cheaper providers in NRW regions clubs. 40 for30.[/QUOTE]You see stunners at Sharks? When Melissa is less elegant than before. Except Catalea but now hidden behind heavy make up when she didn't need as I told her, I didn't see wow looks on this year, unfortunately. Not pretty girls think they can ask expensive, but do they worth such rate?
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2700874]If I vacation for 30 days a year to punt and I visit a club 10 times in the 30 days and on average I go to the room 5-6 times per visit, that's a total of 50 rooms x $50 = $2,500.
If it's now $100 per room, then that increases my spending to $5,000, which will be out of my punting budget and will now limit my rooms to 3 or maybe 4 times per club visit.
So the bottom line is, now I'll only have half as much fun.[/QUOTE]Only if the price of travel, accommodation and entry also doubles in price. And only if your own salary is unchanged during these high inflation times.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2700769]Not yet.
As I know last weekend in Sharks, several stunners have started to quote 4 CE for 60 min with GFE+BBJ, but not 150/30 yet.
150 e for 30 min should include CIM. Of course, requesting extra 20-50 euro tips becomes prevalent among top girls.
German retirees get biggest pension hikes this year for 3 decades. Now local old could afford girls surcharges.
But you still could find cheaper providers in NRW regions clubs. 40 for30.[/QUOTE]Yes, but if you read my post, you would know that I didn't say it was 150/30. Only that some foolish punters already are getting asked for it.
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Return of Dina
Hungarian blonde Dina the former Queen of Sharks will be returning for a brief period July 19 - 24.
Save the date!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2701093]You see stunners at Sharks? When Melissa is less elegant than before.....[/QUOTE]Melissa is not as hot as before? I always got a bad vibe from her as if she would not provide good service so never partook.
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Prices
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2700769]Not yet.
As I know last weekend in Sharks, several stunners have started to quote 4 CE for 60 min with GFE+BBJ, but not 150/30 yet.
150 e for 30 min should include CIM. Of course, requesting extra 20-50 euro tips becomes prevalent among top girls.
German retirees get biggest pension hikes this year for 3 decades. Now local old could afford girls surcharges.
But you still could find cheaper providers in NRW regions clubs. 40 for30.[/QUOTE]In both Sharks and Palace the last two months more than once. 150 for CIM was always the rate quoted except in the smaller NRW clubs where I got it for 100 or 110. Right before Corona Time I think Sharks was 150 as well for CIM? Since I never go two times with the same girl in the same session, I never bring up the time issue. For me it's UNTIL DONE. I don't look at my watch, I look at her eyes. I can say that I've never left in less than 45 and more than once, it was over an hour, honestly, at that point the room is small, I want a drink, a shower and I'm starting to wonder if new girls have arrived (call me shallow) Recently at Palace a friend got 70 for GV / GF6 for 30.
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Her service is kind average, not great but not bad either. She seems to gain a few kgs and her outfit doesn't help either. Some kind of weirder fishnet shirt.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2701361]Melissa is not as hot as before? I always got a bad vibe from her as if she would not provide good service so never partook.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2701361]Melissa is not as hot as before? I always got a bad vibe from her as if she would not provide good service so never partook.[/QUOTE]Still sexy body, but for a guy like me looking for elegance and charm, lack of sophisticated care for hair on last times I saw her, but she was friendly, more interesting than average and not bad in bed, but no wow to repeat. But about elegance and charm, Sharks is almost a desert on this year, reason why I do' t visit now. But if I find a elegant with charm beauty, I will be happy to go to her weekly. At the moment, I find better elsewhere and for less expensive.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2701380]Her service is kind average, not great but not bad either. She seems to gain a few kgs and her outfit doesn't help either. Some kind of weirder fishnet shirt.[/QUOTE]If she gained? Only very few. Body is sexier for me than face.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2701383] At the moment, I find better elsewhere and for less expensive.[/QUOTE]Hello Sirioja,
I am visiting Frankfurt. My favorite girls are the Russian escorts, like the ones who were available in Amour Russe, in Paris. You were a regular customer at that time.
Do you have an idea in which FKK, I could find the same kind of girls? Does Shark have this kind of girls, teens and elegant?
I am not interested in silicon girls, vulgar girls with heavy tattoos. Thanks.
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First time visit to sharks. It was definitely an experience. Saw 3 girls but forgot first name.
Generic tall blonde with minor tattoos. She was like a 7.5 at sharks. Nice CIM finish for 100 to start off the afternoon.
Pretty sure her name was Olivia. If not then it was Eva. Long dark hair and tattoos. 7/10 looks due to not perfect body but she had a really cute face. She really worked me for hours and I finally gave in. Hh GFE for 100. Tried to upsell me in the room for a bunch of things but didn't lose her good attitude. Didn't finish but she was a trooper and very apologetic I didn't finish.
Flora. Tallish somewhat curly brunette hair and super petite with stomach tattoo. 8.5. This Romanian girl really got my motor going. I lost track of her and another petite dark hair girl name Natalya or Natasha. I learned that you snooze you lose. Need to get the hotties before they disappear. Flora was 100 for GFE. Great kisser. I'm still in lust over her petite body and soft ass. Mmmmm.
I really enjoyed my sharks experience. It was a little on the pricier side if you wanted to add extras and the girls try to upsell pretty hard. Still I love the venue and all the amenities. Food was good too. I think it's worth the entrance fee. Will definitely visit sharks again in the future.
Looks rating based on sharks girls level. There were definitely some 9's but I wasn't really feeling that type of look.
I also love the name of the club now. People circle the bar like sharks on the prowl.
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2701434]Hello Sirioja,
I am visiting Frankfurt. My favorite girls are the Russian escorts, like the ones who were available in Amour Russe, in Paris. You were a regular customer at that time.
Do you have an idea in which FKK, I could find the same kind of girls? Does Shark have this kind of girls, teens and elegant?
I am not interested in silicon girls, vulgar girls with heavy tattoos. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You should go to Victoria from Moscow on telegram ex rdv4U who is super fresh and super GFE. Not same level in FKK. At Sharks, quantity now, but not same quality. Elegance is not on top at the moment at Sharks, compare to Polish Kenza or my Swiss making so much honey on last night at Amesia. Ch, but very expensive honey to taste. I don t see any high level casting club on 2022, will discover FKK Tirol Kitzbühel today, I was advised by Germans for high quality according to them, but I found great girls in FKK land on this year, but driving between Kitzbühel, Zurich, Bern and Dortmund, so, working like this, I deserve to find and also make them will to be good for me. My Swiss didn't plan to work, not even on Beatrice private tagesplan, but when I sent asking her if she would work, no for first answer, yes after less than 1 hour, on a not working day in Switzerland and Germany, so not so good for business for her because married men who are not working can't come to fuck when they have to stay with wife, so she was so wet, repeating 1 h30 like on discovery less than 1 week ago, my usual.
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2701434]Hello Sirioja,
I am visiting Frankfurt. My favorite girls are the Russian escorts, like the ones who were available in Amour Russe, in Paris. You were a regular customer at that time.
Do you have an idea in which FKK, I could find the same kind of girls? Does Shark have this kind of girls, teens and elegant?
I am not interested in silicon girls, vulgar girls with heavy tattoos. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've only seen photos of amour russe girls but I'm a regular client of escorts in Paris (girls 250 - 300 eur /1 h).
I visited shark a week ago and I found girls who are like or batter than them in Shark.
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[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2701654]I've only seen photos of amour russe girls but I'm a regular client of escorts in Paris (girls 250 - 300 eur /1 h).
I visited shark a week ago and I found girls who are like or batter than them in Shark.[/QUOTE]What is the names of girls you like? Can you tell us more about your trip to Shark?
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[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2701654]I've only seen photos of amour russe girls but I'm a regular client of escorts in Paris (girls 250 - 300 eur /1 h).
I visited shark a week ago and I found girls who are like or batter than them in Shark.[/QUOTE]The Russian girls in Paris are overall weak, and if we restrict to the girls advertised below 24 years, the best 20 girls are attractive. Do you think that we find girls in Sharks that can compete with them. It is good to know. Paris is nowadays 300 euros per hour, so the price in Sharks (100/30) is better.
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[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2701654]I've only seen photos of amour russe girls but I'm a regular client of escorts in Paris (girls 250 - 300 eur /1 h).
I visited shark a week ago and I found girls who are like or batter than them in Shark.[/QUOTE]Except Catalea and Melissa, with cleaned make up and good care for hair, I don t see any other on Amour Russe escorts level for look and same compare to Victoria telegram I enjoy for 200 for nearly 1 hour and if I wanted to fuck her longer, she can t resist when I m inside her, but I don t want problem with management. For sure if You go to Aphrodite or Russian girls or 6 annonce, not same level for looks than past Amour Russe, when many photoshop now.
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[QUOTE=Pickley;2701484]l.
I really enjoyed my sharks experience. It was a little on the pricier side if you wanted to add extras and the girls try to upsell pretty hard.[/QUOTE]I have a different experience. When I've asked for CIM I've been quoted a price and never discussed money again. I find the upswell occurs more if you just ask for GF6 or a basic 30 minutes. I find the shark experience more evident when I continue to walk around too much with my eyes wandering.
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2701751]The Russian girls in Paris are overall weak, and if we restrict to the girls advertised below 24 years, the best 20 girls are attractive. Do you think that we find girls in Sharks that can compete with them. It is good to know. Paris is nowadays 300 euros per hour, so the price in Sharks (100/30) is better.[/QUOTE]Since covid, Russians are blocked by Putin, so mostly Ukrainians and even before war, but they are not on past Amour Russe level. You can find some Sharks girls on same level than many not really pretty escorts now in Paris, when I m really happy I found 1 wow from Moscow for only 200 for nearly 1 hour, but You won t find many on Amour Russe level. For me, my highest level girls are not at Sharks on 2022 .
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Just got back from Sharks.
It was pretty full today, but I didn't see too many new workers. The lineup looked like it was atleast 80-100 women. I took 6 different women throughout the night since I took a new job outside of Germany and won't be back for a long time.
It was a bit cold but this was the first time I went outside to check out the pool, it was a nice.
I was able to have some time with Brenda and Catalina, and enjoyed it, despite them being massively busy the entire night. They're easily clearing 1-2 K euros on busy nights.
The other 4 women I don't remember their names, but one has a tattoo right between her tits and a nice ass, so I had to test it out. These other two women I had were like twin bimbo chicks (fake tits, big ass from a Brazilian butt lift, tall, dyed blonde hair) They usually sit on the couch facing the stars. It was an ok session.
The music was sometimes good, sometimes awful.
I saw, with my own eyes, customers taking plenty of fat chicks. It just goes to show you beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Some of these women have just perfect vaginas. You would think this wouldn't be the case for sex workers, but I saw a lot of perfect camel toes tonight.
100 for 30 minutes seems to be standard, any lower and they get pissed or the BJ you get will be with a condom on. Some women are already trying to upsell for 150 (they try to do an "add on" of massage, kissing, touching etc).
There were about 15 women who were really hot, I'm my book.
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The Sauna Man
Please please excuse my ignorance but I've often wondered but dare not try the sauna when the man comes round ringing his bell.
Of course I've been alone in the sauna near the garden & used all the other wellness facilities but for some reason I've not tried Sauna Dieter.
Other than the use of infusions what's the difference and is it an extra charge?
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2701854]Just got back from Sharks.
I saw, with my own eyes, customers taking plenty of fat chicks. It just goes to show you beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
There were about 15 women who were really hot, I'm my book.[/QUOTE]How is it possible that guys go with fat chicks? It is ok to go with little curvy girls, there is no need to be sure thin. What do you mean by fat chicks? Do you mean obese girls?
If these customers have those taste, no wonder that there is still obese girls in FKK.
In the red light district, I have seen obese and old girls, but Red Light District is for punters who cannot afford anything else. And even in the Red Light District, there are few pretty girls.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2701854]....I saw, with my own eyes, customers taking plenty of fat chicks. It just goes to show you beauty is in the eye of the beholder......[/QUOTE]It could be that the fat chicks are 50/30.
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First FKK experience at sharks
Went to sharks on Wednesday this week. It was my first ever FKK club.
I arrived at 5 AM and the place was moderately busy it seemed. Wanted to get a look around but that seemed almost impossible as I was stopped constantly. Did not want to be rude so went through small talk with everyone and it took such a long time I had to escape outside (it was a bit cold and so none of the girls was outside). It was nice to chat with so many girls and make a note of who seemed interesting and who was not worth my time.
Went back inside and decided to go talk with one of the girls who I really liked. I believe her name was Angela. Pretty brunette with fantastic eyes, perfect tits and over all awesome body. Just my type. And she was very fun to talk with as well.
I asked her if she would do anal and she told me it depended on the size of my cock. Told her she should be fine as I'm not among the biggest guys, so she told me 200/30 for blowjob and pussy and anal fuck. I figured it was worth it so we went to a room and had an amazing time! Only problem was that she said she had trouble with anal. Wanted me to go very slow and looked like she hurt a bit. She told me that she normally didn't do anal but had made an exception for me, but after a while she asked if we could go back to pussy fuck. I agreed and finished not long after.
I'm not sure if she was being honest or if she decided to cheat me a bit by saying it hurt too much, but it was ok.
Later she kept coming back to me. She would come and smalltalk every time she was walking by or she saw me near her. And after a while she asked if I wanted more. At this point I had seen most of the girls and still found Angela absolutely stunning, so I asked if she had a friend, and lucky for me she did. The friend was ok, but nothing special, but still very fun to have 2 girls in the room for the first time. Decided to just go for some lesbian play, blowjob and normal fucking for 30 minutes. Good time.
Angela kept creeping up to med to touch me or rub up against me all night. But it was not too often and not annoying at all as I was very comfortable with her by now and found her easy to talk with.
But I decided I could not stay with only her all night so I decided to go with another girl I found beautiful. I don't remember her name but she was a bit short with curly hair and spent most of her time at the bar near the exit to the outside area. I noticed she didn't get a lot of customers and so figured I would try her for 60 minutes. She had, for me, a perfect pussy and it was more tight than Angela. She also kept squeezing her pussy when I fucked which caused to me finish way before the 60 minutes but of course I would still pay her the 150/60 we had agreed on. But this is where she started to get annoying. She said I should pay her 200 instead because she was so nice. Of course I told her no and said 150. She kept saying I should tip her and that 200 was better, but I stood my ground and she accepted the 150, but I still found it annoying.
After this it started to get very busy and it was late as well. Some guys had too much to drink and started acting rude toward many of the girls and this got on my nerves. I was tired as well and decided to end the day and go back to the hotel.
Over all it was an amazing experience. Overwhelming at first. I think many girls saw that I was new and so I felt almost attacked and couldn't just sit and relax. This got better as I rejected their offers, but they kept coming to me all night They walking straight past other men and stopping by me. So being new there gets you a lot of attention.
Most girls are OK, some are chubby and maybe 5 or 6 are what I would call very good looking.
I will come back at some point as I enjoyed the club with free soft drinks and actually ok food as well.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2702029]It could be that the fat chicks are 50/30.[/QUOTE]Of course they are along with the not so attractive girls.
At the end of the day it's like everything else, "you pay for what you get".
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[QUOTE=Canary;2702003]
Other than the use of infusions what's the difference and is it an extra charge?[/QUOTE]The saunameister uses different techniques to take sauna experiences to another level. Oftentimes it involves supercharged heat brought on by steam and towel twirling / whipping / fanning, and your body will sweat immensely. Some sessions involve body cleansing aromatherapy session with the meister guiding you through the steps, which may include breathing exercises and cold water rinses. I've never been charged for a saunameister session at an FKK / sauna club, but I've only done them a handful of times at three clubs, so my experiences have been limited.
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2702017]How is it possible that guys go with fat chicks? It is ok to go with little curvy girls, there is no need to be sure thin. What do you mean by fat chicks? Do you mean obese girls?
If these customers have those taste, no wonder that there is still obese girls in FKK.
In the red light district, I have seen obese and old girls, but Red Light District is for punters who cannot afford anything else. And even in the Red Light District, there are few pretty girls.[/QUOTE]How is it possible young best looking guys pay for granny silicon? Mystery for me, even I know many guys are afraid of beautiful women, when they are always the best for me because the most inspiring my desire. Elegance and charm also increase my desire, unfortunately quite rare. I m very surprised when I see guys who used to go with pretties and now they go with so average, when I think covid break made me more picky, maybe because I looked more women in Paris and now compare for FKK girls.
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Try it
I have done this many times at Palace. It is enjoyable.
No extra charge but I have tipped the sauna man occassionally.
Try it. If you don't like it, you can always walk out.
[QUOTE=Canary;2702003]Please please excuse my ignorance but I've often wondered but dare not try the sauna when the man comes round ringing his bell.
Of course I've been alone in the sauna near the garden & used all the other wellness facilities but for some reason I've not tried Sauna Dieter.
Other than the use of infusions what's the difference and is it an extra charge?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2702017]How is it possible that guys go with fat chicks? It is ok to go with little curvy girls, there is no need to be sure thin. What do you mean by fat chicks? Do you mean obese girls?
[/QUOTE]I don't know how it's possible but I saw it. By fat I mean large, like Rebel Wilson or Amy Schumer.
I'm not talking about curvy, like Gianna Michaels or Sophie Dee.
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Hi everyone,
This weekend I will visit FKK sharks.
Before I go there without any information at all I wanted to see if there are any girls this forum would recommend me so I don't run around without any plan and lose to much time. Well that would also be ok to talk with the girls and see how it works out but anyway maybe some of you could give me some names of the woman you think would fit this category.
I am looking for girls which are pure GFE, tongue kissing, etc. The ones that either make you really feel that they want to fuck you or they really have fun doing this job.
Thanks in advance and well see us.
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[QUOTE=Lisen;2702823]Hi everyone,
This weekend I will visit FKK sharks.
Before I go there without any information at all I wanted to see if there are any girls this forum would recommend me so I don't run around without any plan and lose to much time. Well that would also be ok to talk with the girls and see how it works out but anyway maybe some of you could give me some names of the woman you think would fit this category.
I am looking for girls which are pure GFE, tongue kissing, etc. The ones that either make you really feel that they want to fuck you or they really have fun doing this job.
Thanks in advance and well see us.[/QUOTE]Anyone here want to explain how this forum works. Or the acronym RTFF, I'd hate for him to waste any time while he's there.
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[QUOTE=Lisen;2702823]Hi everyone,
This weekend I will visit FKK sharks.
Before I go there without any information at all I wanted to see if there are any girls this forum would recommend me so I don't run around without any plan and lose to much time. Well that would also be ok to talk with the girls and see how it works out but anyway maybe some of you could give me some names of the woman you think would fit this category.
I am looking for girls which are pure GFE, tongue kissing, etc. The ones that either make you really feel that they want to fuck you or they really have fun doing this job.
Thanks in advance and well see us.[/QUOTE]Choose with your eyes and look how girl you chose look at you, interesting to feel what may happen in bed. Ask about what you need and don't say first visit. Not many FKK girls full tongue kiss and I don't say in throat.
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[QUOTE=RastaGold;2702043]Went to sharks on Wednesday this week. It was my first ever FKK club.
I arrived at 5 AM and the place was moderately busy it seemed. Wanted to get a look around but that seemed almost impossible as I was stopped constantly. Did not want to be rude so went through small talk with everyone and it took such a long time I had to escape outside (it was a bit cold and so none of the girls was outside). It was nice to chat with so many girls and make a note of who seemed interesting and who was not worth my time.
Went back inside and decided to go talk with one of the girls who I really liked. I believe her name was Angela. Pretty brunette with fantastic eyes, perfect tits and over all awesome body. Just my type. And she was very fun to talk with as well.
I asked her if she would do anal and she told me it depended on the size of my cock. Told her she should be fine as I'm not among the biggest guys, so she told me 200/30 for blowjob and pussy and anal fuck. I figured it was worth it so we went to a room and had an amazing time! Only problem was that she said she had trouble with anal. Wanted me to go very slow and looked like she hurt a bit. She told me that she normally didn't do anal but had made an exception for me, but after a while she asked if we could go back to pussy fuck. I agreed and finished not long after..[/QUOTE]I don't know if same Angela than on 2021 with tattoos behind ankles, who already asked 200/60 when prettier girls than her were for 100/60. She sold you anal but told you she usually doesn't provide, so I think she felt the newbie to fuck to put gas in peste Jaguar. Angela 2021 look don't worth 200/60 for me, when I pay 200/120 for a outstanding and so lovely German around Dusseldorf.
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[QUOTE=Lisen;2702823]Hi everyone,
This weekend I will visit FKK sharks.
Before I go there without any information at all I wanted to see if there are any girls this forum would recommend me so I don't run around without any plan and lose to much time. Well that would also be ok to talk with the girls and see how it works out but anyway maybe some of you could give me some names of the woman you think would fit this category.
I am looking for girls which are pure GFE, tongue kissing, etc. The ones that either make you really feel that they want to fuck you or they really have fun doing this job.
Thanks in advance and well see us.[/QUOTE]I can't recommend because taste is different, best you choose what you like and talk before going to the room, tell the girl what you like.
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2702017]How is it possible that guys go with fat chicks? It is ok to go with little curvy girls, there is no need to be sure thin. What do you mean by fat chicks? Do you mean obese girls?
If these customers have those taste, no wonder that there is still obese girls in FKK.
In the red light district, I have seen obese and old girls, but Red Light District is for punters who cannot afford anything else. And even in the Red Light District, there are few pretty girls.[/QUOTE]I only mention this because it is at least partially true. If you don't watch porn or do that thing with masturbation where you stay on the edge, you can do a wider variety of girls. Not everybody grew up on porn. I think people dismiss but if there was no porn, masturbation or sex on someone's plate from birth, they do cows and chickens.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2701797]Except Catalea and Melissa, with cleaned make up and good care for hair, I don t see any other on Amour Russe escorts level for look and same compare to Victoria telegram I enjoy for 200 for nearly 1 hour and if I wanted to fuck her longer, she can t resist when I m inside her, but I don t want problem with management. For sure if You go to Aphrodite or Russian girls or 6 annonce, not same level for looks than past Amour Russe, when many photoshop now.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I started my escort life since 2018 so I could not meet girls of amour russe.
But as you know we can't say that most of escorts in Paris now are not prettier than the girls of shark (maybe I'm wrong because of the makeup and the light of shark) and that's why I said that.
Are you talking about Victoria of Escortadviser (ex rdv) ? Maybe I need to check.
And if you don't mind, can I ask you a question? Because you seem like an expert!
I am thinking of traveling to another European country soon. Can you recommend me a very good country or city for the sex trip?
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[QUOTE=CamLaCam;2702017]How is it possible that guys go with fat chicks? It is ok to go with little curvy girls, there is no need to be sure thin. What do you mean by fat chicks? Do you mean obese girls?
If these customers have those taste, no wonder that there is still obese girls in FKK.
In the red light district, I have seen obese and old girls, but Red Light District is for punters who cannot afford anything else. And even in the Red Light District, there are few pretty girls.[/QUOTE]It's the same thing as guys having ugly fat chicks as girlfriends, or marrying an ugly fat chick, or stay married to someone who once may have been ok but now ugly and fat for years. You'll be surprised that in today's world there's a huge market for ugly fat chicks. Not my cup of tea, but have you seen Lizzo or Adele or Amy Schumer? I think with obesity being a worldwide very common problem, a lot of guys these days don't even know what's a non-fat real beautiful stunner looks like, and when they come to an FKK, they are happy with fugly fat chicks. It's sad to watch.
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Outdoor fun
Hi fellas,
When its the best period between end of June and August to enjoy outdoors in Sharks? Is the vibe like pool party or what?
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[QUOTE=Blancoco12;2703116]Unfortunately I started my escort life since 2018 so I could not meet girls of amour russe.
But as you know we can't say that most of escorts in Paris now are not prettier than the girls of shark (maybe I'm wrong because of the makeup and the light of shark) and that's why I said that.
Are you talking about Victoria of Escortadviser (ex rdv) ? Maybe I need to check.
And if you don't mind, can I ask you a question? Because you seem like an expert!
I am thinking of traveling to another European country soon. Can you recommend me a very good country or city for the sex trip?[/QUOTE]Victoria from Moscow in on best Amour Russe girls level, so GFE, so fresh natural. I never claimed to be expert when many who claimed made me laugh, but Germany is the best at the moment, with some clubs on higher level for less expensive than Sharks on 2022.
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[QUOTE=RastaGold;2702043]Went to sharks on Wednesday this week. It was my first ever FKK club.[/QUOTE]Excellent report! I wish others were as thorough as you were. If your "Angela" was tall, then she went by "Kate" when I was there.
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Negotiating Anal
[QUOTE=RastaGold;2702043]I asked her if she would do anal and she told me it depended on the size of my cock. Told her she should be fine as I'm not among the biggest guys, so she told me 200/30 for blowjob and pussy and anal fuck. I figured it was worth it so we went to a room and had an amazing time! Only problem was that she said she had trouble with anal. Wanted me to go very slow and looked like she hurt a bit. She told me that she normally didn't do anal but had made an exception for me, but after a while she asked if we could go back to pussy fuck. I agreed and finished not long after. I'm not sure if she was being honest or if she decided to cheat me a bit by saying it hurt too much, but it was ok.[/QUOTE]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2703337]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.[/QUOTE]You're so damn right! Remember that firecracker cute petite small girl in Sharks (later moved to Oase) before Covid used to love to get fucked in the ass more than in the pussy? Damn I can't remember her name LOL. Gawd I miss her! Good anal girls actually love to get fucked in the ass, they never complain about size haha.
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Nail hit on the head
[QUOTE=TheCane;2703337]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have put it better myself. Anything other than a straight 'yes' to a question is likely to really mean 'no'.
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If She's Not A Fuck Yes, She's a Fuck No
[QUOTE=TheCane;2703337]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.[/QUOTE]I love this advice. If a girl doesn't clearly give an unconditional "Yes" about anal, then take it off the table. None of this "my discretion", "depends on size", etc.
I fucked two girls in the ass when I was at Sharks, and one (Catherine) was "maybe". She was squirming and kept adjusting, and it was not a good experience. The other girl (Nadine) was a clear "yes", and I got all the way in that asshole.
Actually, in this hobby, "unconditional yes" is great advice for everything. If a girl seems unsure or hesitant, then pass on her. Move on to the girl who smiles at you and gives great eye contact. We should direct our money towards enthusiastic girls instead of trying to convince the ones who don't want to spend time with us. Doing this may encourage more enthusiasm across the board.
It's also great advice to not spend more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany. With both Catherine and Nadine, anal was only 50 euros extra.
I do hope one day that Sharks will return to a standard price without all the "extras". I think this can be achieved with solid negotiation skills, but that takes a lot of work.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2703589]I love this advice. If a girl doesn't clearly give an unconditional "Yes" about anal, then take it off the table. None of this "my discretion", "depends on size", etc.
The other girl (Nadine) was a clear "yes", Actually, in this hobby, "unconditional yes" is great advice for everything.l.[/QUOTE]I agree. My experience is a maybe on the floor is seldom a yes in the room. On the other hand a solid yes indicates not only will it happen but she understands how to make it good for you. Regardless if she likes it or not -and we'd all prefer to think she is enjoying whatever we are doing- if she knows what she is doing it is better for 'both'.
P.S. Yes Nadine was excellent.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2703337]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.[/QUOTE]Thank you that great tip! Top information!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2703337]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.[/QUOTE]As others have rightly said. A fabulously succinct but perfect piece of advice. I agree with Atanion. This is good advice not just for anal but everything. Solid yes will mean a good experience. Maybe on anything means "no" or "probably not" or at best a poor experience. Bravo.
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Just a hunch
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2703209]Hi fellas,
When its the best period between end of June and August to enjoy outdoors in Sharks? Is the vibe like pool party or what?[/QUOTE]Just a hunch, but maybe it's on a nice sunny hot day LOL. Seriously, it's a crap shoot.
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Analizing
[QUOTE=TheCane;2703337]Take it from an anal connoisseur who knows. If it's anal sex that you really want, then never go with a girl who tells you things like "maybe" or "it depends" on your size. From my vast years of experience, I know that overwhelmingly when tutes do this, they're just trying to keep you on the hook and score a session out of you. If you want to take a tute up the butt, then you want a straightforward "yes" from her that she does that. Otherwise, you're likely to get exactly what happened. The girl will get into the zimmer and underperform on the anal, or try to renege all together. And lastly, never pay more than 100 euros extra for anal sex in Germany.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. You can miss out on some great anal this way, as some girls may not offer it simply because they only do it occasionally. The best anal experiences I received were usually when I start approaching the forbidden zone in the room after I give her few minutes of hard pounding and get offered a price to proceed. At that stage she knows she can handle with my tool and horny enough to enjoy it making the extra cash. I will also know then that there are no performance issues and that I can treat that ass in way that justify the price.
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Analysis
[QUOTE=LickMoi;2703928]Not necessarily. You can miss out on some great anal this way, as some girls may not offer it simply because they only do it occasionally. The best anal experiences I received were usually when I start approaching the forbidden zone in the room after I give her few minutes of hard pounding and get offered a price to proceed. At that stage she knows she can handle with my tool and horny enough to enjoy it making the extra cash. I will also know then that there are no performance issues and that I can treat that ass in way that justify the price.[/QUOTE]I've fucked more hot girls in the ass than most mere mortals will get even pussy. I'm talking about over the course of their [B]entire[/B] lifetimes. I'm not missing out on anything bro. Whatever works for you.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2703282] ".....Germany is the best at the moment, with some clubs on higher level for less expensive than Sharks on 2022......[/QUOTE]Would you please give a directory of the clubs you mention?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2704017]I've fucked more hot girls in the ass than most mere mortals will get even pussy. I'm talking about over the course of their [B]entire[/B] lifetimes. I'm not missing out on anything bro. Whatever works for you.[/QUOTE]LMAO. Good one.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2704017]I've fucked more hot girls in the ass than most mere mortals will get even pussy. I'm talking about over the course of their [B]entire[/B] lifetimes. I'm not missing out on anything bro. Whatever works for you.[/QUOTE]I own a Mansion in Beverly Hills, two Ferrari's, a Lamborghini and two maids that clean my Mansion and cook.
I fucked eight times more hot girls in the ass than Cane.
Money talks. Everything else is Lip Service, and Dreams, and Champaign wishes.
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[QUOTE=LoverBoy#2;2704021]Would you please give a directory of the clubs you mention?[/QUOTE]When lack of beauties for me at Sharks on 2022, I would advice Palace on Friday or Saturday evening. Some prettier girls like Natalia and Eli at Gold, some also prettier at 6 NL. I will keep my wow German for me when she is on holidays in Turkey while she is forbidden to drive in Germany. We were really made for each other, for way to drive, for her squirting she wait for.
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[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2703209]Hi fellas,
When its the best period between end of June and August to enjoy outdoors in Sharks? Is the vibe like pool party or what?[/QUOTE]You can literally walk out to the pool area whenever you want. The "best period" is whenever you choose it to be.
It's not a pool party vibe, there's no outdoor music / dj, most women are inside trying to make money, or folks are just sun bathing or eating. Now if you have big money, I'm sure you could arrange several women to join in the pool are for drinks but that will add up very quickly.
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First Sharks experience
First, thank you to all for the detailed reports. It made my experience a lot smoother and look less of a newb when dealing with logistics.
Accommodation / transportation:
I stayed at a hotel near Frankfurt hbf, I figured this way I could be central to all of clubs in the area, the furthest would be about 40 minutes by train.
From hbf, I took the S3 straight to Darmstadt hbf. Very easy. From there a cab ride of 10€ to the club.
When leaving, uber was nowhere to be found. Cab cost me 45€ back to my hotel. Not bad considering that uber wanted 70€.
The club:
After paying the fee at the door, you're handed a robe, towel, slippers, and key on a wristband with a number on it. As many of you pointed out, the number and key is to your larger locker (for your clothes and shoes) in the changeroom and to the smaller locker (for your valuables) to the right once you walk in.
The club itself is quite large but can be walked in about 15 ish minutes (assuming you didn't look at the girls. But come on whos not looking at the girls? When you walk in, the aforementioned smaller lockers are on the right. There's a few couches and then the bar in the middle where quite a few girls hang out in cliques. Then on the left is where the food is served then further on is where the outdoor area is. Comments about the food. I found the grilled chicken tender and fairly moist, this is what I ate the most of. The beef was a bit tough. The pork was a bit salty. I would avoid the rice, pasta and salad bar altogether its either overcooked and mushy or soft and bland.
Back to the club, beyond the bar are the main large stairs that leads up to the cabanas and hot tubs. Getting to these stairs, you'll pass by several couches with girls and guys sitting in them. There's also rooms in and around there. On second floor on the right when you walk in, are narrower stairs that leads to more rooms.
F all that sh*t, when are you getting to the girls?
I'm going to do that now. Saving the best for last.
This was my first time at sharks and when I walked in, I felt like a kid at a candy store. There was probably 50 girls that I could see immediately and maybe 100 girls in total.
I walked around a bit to get my bearings and to check out the girls. I got stopped more than a few times going from the main entrance to the hot tubs upstairs.
There were all sorts of girls but for me, I say the majority of them were 7's and 8's. Sure there's fat and ugly girls too but I'm there for the hot girls so I didn't pay attention to them.
There's so much choice that one can strain their neck just turning side to side that you just have to go with a hot one you can chat a little with. For me the first one was Tamara. A dyed blonde 5 foot 2 Romanian girl with Cs. I was so keyed up that I ended up doing 2 shots, BBBJ, multiple positions, CIM. Ended up being 200/60 but well worth it. I especially love the mirrors all over the place. Gives a different perspective on the different positions.
Afterwards, I went to hang out at the bar and got a drink. Here I met cool guy from the US who gave me more info on the girls that were around. We looked around the club from our vantage point and pondered our next fun time.
Next girl I went with was a 5 foot 5 brunette Romanian girl with big DS. I needed to pace myself so just did 150/30 for BBBJ, multiple positions, COF and COT.
After that, I went with a 5 foot 3 brunette girl with b cups for 100/30 for BBBJ, multiple positions and CIM. I think this one liked me and only said 100 when I told her what I wanted.
Afterwards another guy from the US stopped me when I was heading for the showers to chat about the girl I was just with. I told him, she was friendly, clean and enthusiastic. He seemed to like that and said he'll look for her after she's done showering.
After that, I chatted with a 5 foot 11 blonde with DS, I decided that this would be my finisher so I did BBBJ, multiple positions, CIM for 150/30.
If I wasn't so tired I would've chosen to stay with more girls but I left extremely satisfied! An awesome experience!
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2615279]This forum narrative has become everything except Girls, Girls, Girls.
Nobody is interested in anything except Sharks and Girls.
If you are depressed, think life isn't worth living, or just need someone to talk to.
Life is worth living. Life does get better.
Hotline: [URL]www.suicidehotlines.com[/URL].
Recommended Books: Learned Optimism.
Members willing to Help at Sharks: Sylvana.[/QUOTE]Here's a free download of your book. [URL]https://archive.org/details/learned-optimism-how-to-change-your-mind-and-your-life[/URL].
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Best FKK for talent?
I'm just now learning about FKK and am super interested in going to my first one. I saw Artemis in Berlin was the most famous but some users have said hot girls are not common. So I'm wondering which of the FKK clubs seem to have the best talent (fit, pretty girls) if you had to rank them.
Do they all on average have the same entrance fees and individuals girls rates?
Thanks!
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Sharks and Artemis Price
Never thought I'the see the day but Artemis pricing is now less than sharks for what most men would call standard service — BBBJ.
Sharks = 50+50 = 100.
Artemis = 70+20 = 90.
Sharks is still the much better club with better selection. But to think you can get standard service at Artemis for less than Sharks blows my mind. Def wrinkle in the fabric of the universe.
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Just got back from sharks, a few things to note:
- There was easily over 100 women there tonight. I didn't see too many new faces though.
- catherina easily has the best body in all of sharks. Her V is obviously not the tightest, but from a pure physical standpoint not many women can beat her.
- Brenda is Brenda, best chest in all of sharks in my book.
- Some crazy woman (from Italy or Greece) quoted me 150 euros for BBBJ and condom sex, I almost spit my drink up. Every single woman in sharks will offer a BBBJ and condom sex for 100 or less. I'm not paying an extra 50 euros for a BBBJ.
- I was finally able to spot a few more Germans today.
- They had music in the pool / outdoor area.
- The music in Sharks is trash, but at least it's at the correct volume most of the time. Not too loud and not too quite.
- The more times you revisit a woman, the better the service seems to get.
After I've been to sharks numerous times, I really just go to the same 2-3 women now.
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[QUOTE=LoveTitties;2704220]First, thank you to all for the detailed reports. It made my experience a lot smoother and look less of a newb when dealing with logistics.
If I wasn't so tired I would've chosen to stay with more girls but I left extremely satisfied! An awesome experience![/QUOTE]Glad you had a great time. Thanks for such detailed info (I'll avoid the rice) Seriously appreciate you posting names and girls attitudes.
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Excellent Report
[QUOTE=LoveTitties;2704220]First, thank you to all for the detailed reports. It made my experience a lot smoother and look less of a newb when dealing with logistics.
If I wasn't so tired I would've chosen to stay with more girls but I left extremely satisfied! An awesome experience![/QUOTE]Thank you for such a detailed report! I'm glad your first time at Sharks was so amazing!
I'm guessing you're a fairly young man based on how many times you popped at Sharks. I wish I had started mongering at a younger age, and I wish you a long and enjoyable experience in the hobby!
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[QUOTE=LoveTitties;2704220]First, thank you to all for the detailed reports. It made my experience a lot smoother and look less of a newb when dealing with logistics.
Accommodation / transportation:
I stayed at a hotel near Frankfurt hbf, I figured this way I could be central to all of clubs in the area, the furthest would be about 40 minutes by train.
From hbf, I took the S3 straight to Darmstadt hbf. Very easy. From there a cab ride of 10 to the club.
When leaving, uber was nowhere to be found. Cab cost me 45 back to my hotel. Not bad considering that uber wanted 70.
The club:
After paying the fee at the door, you're handed a robe, towel, slippers, and key on a wristband with a number on it. As many of you pointed out, the number and key is to your larger locker (for your clothes and shoes) in the changeroom and to the smaller locker (for your valuables) to the right once you walk in.
The club itself is quite large but can be walked in about 15 ish minutes (assuming you didn't look at the girls. But come on whos not looking at the girls? When you walk in, the aforementioned smaller lockers are on the right. There's a few couches and then the bar in the middle where quite a few girls hang out in cliques. Then on the left is where the food is served then further on is where the outdoor area is..[/QUOTE]What is DS means?
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[QUOTE=MRusa007;2704795]What is DS means?[/QUOTE]I read it as big "D"s. As in breast size.
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Post Covid 1 day club to visit recommendation
If you have 1 day. Saturday morning arrival, and fly out on Sunday morning. Where will you go. Will be flying from London.
My favorite used to be Golden Time, Oase, Samya.
I like a place that has more girls. Stay at one place action, food, sleep, action, food sleep. Rinse and repeat.
Will rent a car from the airport.
With things changed so much post covid. What will be 1 club to visit. Recommendation?
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My favorite women at Sharks all played out with similar results
My last 3 women at Sharks all said the same thing to me before we went to the room.
It's usually a good indicator that I'll have a great session!
First indicator, the women does NOT sit next to me, but asks if she can sit next to me.
Second indicator, she compliments me and tells me I'm the best looking guy in the club. (I like compliments.
Third indicator, she tells me if we go to the room I can do whatever I want to her.
If at least the later 2 of the 3 occur I don't even talk pricing and we head right to the room.
I'm not an anal guy, but I like other risky services, so you can use your imagination.
Once in the room these women don't upsell me on anything and I get no resistance with what I want.
P.S. - I know lots of guys will feel like this is how most of the women work, and you're mostly right, call me a sucker for compliments.
But not throwing up any resistance and almost always saying similar things when I'm finished and before we leave the room, like.
"oh, I never do that" or "I only do that with my boyfriend" or "I only let guys do that for $$$ amount" tells me I'm 'special', which.
Confirms what my mother always told me. And then when we head to the lock box and I open my wallet they always say something like, "I usually charge more but you can pay me regular price".
FYI. I never have more than $50-100 Euro in my wallet that's visible to the girls when I intentionally expose the contents of it in front of them.
Haha!
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2704987]My last 3 women at Sharks all said the same thing to me before we went to the room.
It's usually a good indicator that I'll have a great session!
First indicator, the women does NOT sit next to me, but asks if she can sit next to me.
Second indicator, she compliments me and tells me I'm the best looking guy in the club. (I like compliments.
Third indicator, she tells me if we go to the room I can do whatever I want to her.
If at least the later 2 of the 3 occur I don't even talk pricing and we head right to the room.
I'm not an anal guy, but I like other risky services, so you can use your imagination.
Once in the room these women don't upsell me on anything and I get no resistance with what I want.
P.S. - I know lots of guys will feel like this is how most of the women work, and you're mostly right, call me a sucker for compliments.
But not throwing up any resistance and almost always saying similar things when I'm finished and before we leave the room, like.
"oh, I never do that" or "I only do that with my boyfriend" or "I only let guys do that for $$$ amount" tells me I'm 'special', which.
Confirms what my mother always told me. And then when we head to the lock box and I open my wallet they always say something like, "I usually charge more but you can pay me regular price".
FYI. I never have more than $50-100 Euro in my wallet that's visible to the girls when I intentionally expose the contents of it in front of them.
Haha![/QUOTE]What's the purpose of that post? What are you trying to tell us?
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I always introduce myself to the girls by saying:
- Hi, I'm Pistons.
You should try by starting with:
- Hi, I'm Backpack Brian.
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What is the best month to come shakrs club?
Hi,
I know there is a lot of Romanian girl in all Germany's clubs, but there is have to be also a Germans women or Latina women from south America.
What is the best time of the month to go and get local women or Latina women in sharks club?
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Best time
[QUOTE=KingAmir;2705086]Hi,
I know there is a lot of Romanian girl in all Germany's clubs, but there is have to be also a Germans women or Latina women from south America.
What is the best time of the month to go and get local women or Latina women in sharks club?[/QUOTE]I'm no expert, but best guess is July or August.
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FKK rom
Has any one recently visited FKK Rom?
Though it's closer to Shark, I have not visited. Plan to visit during my next visit. Any feedback is appreciated. There's nothing on the club's thread in the last couple of years.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2705084]I always introduce myself to the girls by saying:
- Hi, I'm Pistons.
You should try by starting with:
- Hi, I'm Backpack Brian.[/QUOTE]I don't even need to introduce when girls at Sharks, Globe, 6 NL, Bruggen and LR before, read me, like my followers. Yesterday, first Saturday of June when Saturday is best casting day, easier run than when I leave Paris in traffic after job on Friday, easy on time for salmon and drinking milk, easy to park at 2 pm. Like on Summer and swimming pool didn't seem too cold, even not heated like at 6. Very quiet afternoon, even Brenda was free waiting at the bar. Good cake with strawberries for me. From far in dark lounge, I thought maybe could find some attractive, but sunlight outside killed my hopes. I remember when I contemplated Megan under sunlight in room with window to start her day as she asked. So disappointing level for looks like on previous 2022 visits, when improvements in the club, even 2 jaccuzis were cold. Only from escorting in Rhur, model type German Sofi was interesting for me. When I became a really bad hunter, even I hate this, but I had to jump on her like Germans. I apologized, she answered she was happy I came to her, when she already smiled to me before. Beautiful room with many mirrors. You know how to do said the escort, at least she knows about her G now, when I learned rebuilding 2 women to make them more than only mother. She returned to business 45 mn after our room when she was waited, same than my Rhur German who also need around 45 mn and usually go to eat, to recover. Sofi saved my disappointing day compare to my girls who are on holidays, even I ate good when BBQ meat was not too bad for once. German Vanessa saved my previous visit but no need to repeat. 2022 seem year for German girls for me, already 3 and 1 who is outstanding for less expensive than at Sharks. Like at Globe, most of Sharks girls don t have the look to ask 100/30, then slow business for first Saturday of the month. Poor casting for me, even maybe 70 girls but couldn't find other than Sofi. De. No need to rush to return if I m not informed about 2 2021 girls who are really missing, when I see prettier in smaller clubs. Really wish big improvement for level of girls for 100/30 and at least 150/60. About 5 girls from Bruggen but not improving looks and 2 from 6 NL. Angela 2021 asking 200/60 is back.
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[QUOTE=KingAmir;2705086]Hi,
I know there is a lot of Romanian girl in all Germany's clubs, but there is have to be also a Germans women or Latina women from south America.
What is the best time of the month to go and get local women or Latina women in sharks club?[/QUOTE]3/4 black girls, 1 thaï ex Bruggen, few dark skin Romanians like Brenda with exceptional naturals which seemed more full yesterday. Usually few south Americans at Palace. For Germans, Vanessa, Sofi yesterday. They usually come to make money before holidays.
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[QUOTE=FunExplorer;2705134]Has any one recently visited FKK Rom?
Though it's closer to Shark, I have not visited. Plan to visit during my next visit. Any feedback is appreciated. There's nothing on the club's thread in the last couple of years.[/QUOTE]Girls at Rom are mostly used to Turkish, but sometimes few pretties. Good rooms when was hotel before. 1 very good point at Sharks is beautiful rooms as said my German escort, when low level rooms at expensive Globe.
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Are you new to this forum or looking for more explicit details?
[QUOTE=Jon75;2705051]What's the purpose of that post? What are you trying to tell us?[/QUOTE]Question. Are you new to this forum or looking for more explicit details?
This forum is for sharing different mongering experiences, which is what I did in the post, while mixing in some satire.
This Sharks forum and many of the other forums on this site have become very dry, I though lightening it up a little with some satire would be fun.
If you have any specific questions about my experiences, you can PM me for details. I didn't want to be too explicit in the forum for verbose reasons.
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Bicycle rental at train station
I was watching a YouTube video of a guy riding a rental bike from the train station to Sharks. I want to look it up to learn how it works. I also saw scooters in Frankfurt. Do you just leave those and forget about them when you get where you are going? What are they called?
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2705242]I was watching a YouTube video of a guy riding a rental bike from the train station to Sharks. I want to look it up to learn how it works. I also saw scooters in Frankfurt. Do you just leave those and forget about them when you get where you are going? What are they called?[/QUOTE]I tried the scooters (I used lime scooters), you have to leave them in designated areas, and it was still a pretty good walk to Sharks. Also if you're not familiar with the area it can be difficult to find drop off spots. If you're taking the train use the RMV app / website instead of google maps, google maps will only give directions through Darmstadt hbf and you want to go through Darmstadt noord as it is a much shorter walk.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2705230]Question. Are you new to this forum or looking for more explicit details?
This forum is for sharing different mongering experiences, which is what I did in the post, while mixing in some satire.
This Sharks forum and many of the other forums on this site have become very dry, I though lightening it up a little with some satire would be fun.
If you have any specific questions about my experiences, you can PM me for details. I didn't want to be too explicit in the forum for verbose reasons.[/QUOTE]I think this might have gotten it started. "Once in the room these women don't upsell me on anything and I get no resistance with what I want". Might have been a funny or sataric comment that the guy didn't take that way.
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Waiting for things to improve. Probably hopeless
Sharks used to be my go to club pre-COVID, but for my first trip back in two years, after reading all these posts, I decided to make the two hour drive to NRW from Frankfurt. I posted reports in the Aca Gold and Babylon threads.
I hope to get back to Sharks, but the price hike, price haggling, upselling, and variable service are just hard to justify for me.
I am hoping it will get better, but unless management intervenes with regards to pricing and service standards (which I doubt they will do) . I don't see this improving, sadly.
Too bad, since the lineup here sounds substantially better than elsewhere. However, with better service options I will continue to make the drive and look elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=Sammi123;2705310]Sharks used to be my go to club pre-COVID, but for my first trip back in two years, after reading all these posts, I decided to make the two hour drive to NRW from Frankfurt. I posted reports in the Aca Gold and Babylon threads.
I hope to get back to Sharks, but the price hike, price haggling, up selling, and variable service are just hard to justify for me.
I am hoping it will get better, but unless management intervenes with regards to pricing and service standards (which I doubt they will do) . I don't see this improving, sadly.
Too bad, since the lineup here sounds substantially better than elsewhere. However, with better service options I will continue to make the drive and look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Sharks is not Bruggen nor LR nor Globe, girls are free at Sharks, except some peste drivers. You can find prettier looks than now at Sharks which is really below for looks than on 2021 . Management improved the club compare to last year. Just one beauty would be great for me. Not so crowded even on Saturday evening.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2705084]I always introduce myself to the girls by saying:
- Hi, I'm Pistons.
You should try by starting with:
- Hi, I'm Backpack Brian.[/QUOTE]Jesus! If I followed this advice my wallet would be in real trouble! "Hi I Payforit".
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2705395]Jesus! If I followed this advice my wallet would be in real trouble! "Hi I Payforit".[/QUOTE]I say: I have no money, when I slept in my old with 615000 kms car when I left at more than 5 am and it was already day. This is Audi quality with original engine improved with 50% more power, manual gearbox and clutch. Healthy resistant to my rythm mechanic and also my hotel everywhere I go. Wish same for new one with more than twice for power and of course manual gearbox to resist to increased power and for the sport. Only bad point will be electric park stop, not sporty, and heavy but I will make lighter putting off what is useless.
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[QUOTE=Dawg90;2705256]I tried the scooters (I used lime scooters), you have to leave them in designated areas, and it was still a pretty good walk to Sharks. Also if you're not familiar with the area it can be difficult to find drop off spots. If you're taking the train use the RMV app / website instead of google maps, google maps will only give directions through Darmstadt hbf and you want to go through Darmstadt noord as it is a much shorter walk.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I even found some videos on Lime scooters. I didn't realize they were widespread globally including my own country.
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[QUOTE=LoveTitties;2704220]First, thank you to all for the detailed reports. It made my experience a lot smoother and look less of a newb when dealing with logistics.
Accommodation / transportation:
I stayed at a hotel near Frankfurt hbf, I figured this way I could be central to all of clubs in the area, the furthest would be about 40 minutes by train.
From hbf, I took the S3 straight to Darmstadt hbf. Very easy. From there a cab ride of 10 to the club.
[/QUOTE]Just wanted to piggyback onto this one as you did a good job for the newbies describing how to get there, etc. I also stayed across the road from Frankfurt hbf main at the intercity hotel. It was a good hotel and amazing access to the station. I went public transport the whole way but my T-Mobile reception was sometimes crappy around the club so just pointing out if you do that then I had screenshots of the train times back to Frankfurt Hbf main for the night hours. The trains go back all night but there's a slight gap between 1 am-3:30 am so just check that so you're not back at Darmstadt hbf during these times as you could be staying in the club instead of waiting for the train. Also make sure to get the 9 euro ticket from the DB ticket vending machines. It gives you free access to all the trains, buses and trams (except the flixbus, the IC and ICE trains but you won't use any of these for getting to sharks or Mainhattan). Also, different than in the states but you just walk on the trains and buses. There's no scanning your ticket to get on. It works on the honors basis but there are ticket inspectors who come on and check so just make sure you have a ticket and honestly for 9 euros it's not that much to just have it.
I caught the Rb67 rb68 train down to Darmstadt hbf in the afternoons (just check google maps for the best options) and then took the are bus in the direction of Nordstradt. It leaves from bus platform 2 right outside the station (there are tall green lcd screens with platform names on them. Just look for platform 2 once you walk outside the station). It's only about a 7 minute bus ride from Darmstadt and you get off at Daimlerweig. Anyways, just wanted to point out the bus and train option was incredibly easy. The are bus I think stops running in the evening hours so you may have to do taxi at night.
For getting back to Darmstadt I used the freenow phone app. It's a taxi hailing service and works just like the Uber app. Anyways it was 10.70 euros to get back to Darmstadt from the club in the evening at about 12:30 am. It may be a better alternative to Uber in this area. The 2nd time I was at sharks I couldn't get a phone signal outside the club but the taxis were already waiting. One quoted me 12 euros back to the station but I said I only had 10 euros and he accepted that anyways.
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First time to sharks
First time visit to Germany. Had 3 days in Frankfurt. First night was Mainhattan and I'll post that review under that thread. 2nd night was Sharks and for me, Sharks beat Mainhattan hands down. Counted about 50 girls in total but honestly stopped counting after a while. The majority of them are perfect spinners. There's probably something for everyone though as the majority of the girls are young (in their early 20's) but there are a couple of older ladies (guessing 30-40), 3 or 4 older bigger girls and 2 or 3 French African dark skinned girls. All the girls I was attracted to though were either from Romania or Moldova, spinners and in their early to mid 20's. I ended up going back to Sharks for my 3rd day as there were some girls I wanted to try that I couldn't get in on my 1st night.
1st girl. Forgot her name. She's Romanian / Greek. Very slim, small.
Perky tits, tall with boots but once boots are off she's about 5 ft 6 and shoulder length black straight hair. 150 for 30 minutes BBBJ, COT, DATY, fingering, fuck different positions, and kissing (no tongue). Completely forgot her name but has fun with her. She wasn't pushy or a clock watcher, lovely pussy that was nice and tight that I had to slow down a few times to stop from popping too early. Took a pounding in doggy before unloading on her small tits. She was a lot of fun.
2nd girl. Julianna. Moldovan. Julianna was my favorite. She's tiny both in body size and height. I'm guessing only just above 5 foot and I got hard the moment I saw her walking around. She had a good personality too. I didn't recognize her the 2nd night and I stupidly ignored her as I heard someone call me and not wanting to get hooked in I ignored her but didn't recognize her as on the 2nd night I was there she had glasses on and didn't on the 1st night. I'm lucky I did end up unintentionally not recognize her as I may have been tempted to repeat. Julianna was also 150 for 30 minutes. BBBJ, CIM, French kissing but not deep tongue, fingering and fuck. She also offered anal but I didn't take it. Loved everything about this girl. She was nice in the room, gave good head with no teeth, cowgirl and then when she bent over for doggy with her face in the bed looking up at me and the smallest little ass I lost it. Fucked her hard, she moaned but it wasn't over the top and then took out for a BBBJ to finish in her mouth. We had a little bit of a conversation after. Decided I loved Moldova after this LOL.
Left that night as I wanted to leave on a good note and didn't want to end on potentially getting a 3rd girl that ruined the good luck I had in not having any issues with these 2. Now I'm back in the states I wish I sessioned with Julianna again and fucker her ass this time. I loved how tiny she was and she is officially the 2nd tiniest girl I've fucked with the 1st place one being a fresh to Tijuana girl in HK.
2nd night. Felt more relaxed now knowing how everything works, how the girls work, the vibe, rooms, etc.
1st girl. Anastasia from Romania. I don't know how old she is. She both looks young but maybe more mid to late 20's. She's tall and slim with blonde hair. She has a cute face but it's hard to tell her age. Her butt and pussy are tiny. The only downside to her body is she has tits that have lost their firmness. However, I've been doing this for a little bit and there were a lot of things that I felt good about with ber. She was never pushy and above all she was bubbly and fun without being fake about it and had a great smile. When you combine that with a lovely thin body I had to try it. We had a nice conversation in one of the corners of the club over a drink, it was a chill time and I took the opportunity to rub her pencil thin legs which I loved. We went back to the room and I probably spent more than I needed to but in the end I was happy with it and it wasn't an upsell in the way I would feel like I got screwed over. I went with an hour with her. Included anal, massage, fingering of her ass (she let me finger her pussy but said she didn't like it as much as her ass), cum on either mouth or tits I choose and kissing for 300. It was a good time and I'm glad I did the hour. She went straight into anal after some massage, fingering and playing with her pussy and ass while she BBBJ me. Did anal in cowgirl then reverse cowgirl before doing anal in doggy. She has a fun personality so that was also a turn on for me. I went into her pussy after fucking her ass for a while and In the end I couldn't stay hard though and I blame it on the frikken condoms so she went straight back into giving me a BBBJ to get me hard again and put it in her pussy but after losing hardness again she didn't make me feel weird and just went straight back into a BBBJ and I ended up cumming over both her tits and mouth. We finished off with me giving her a massage and just enjoying seeing that thin body lying on the bed. Despite the losing the hardness had a good time with her.
2nd girl. Elina (Alina?) - Moldovan. 25 yr old thin girl with small tits and a tiny, tiny waist and an even tinier little pussy (she has what looks like a little burn mark on the underside of her butt cheek). She was a friend of the Greek Romanian girl and I honestly saw her the first day and thought she looked fine but she looked a bit stuck up as her friend she walked around with was a stunning looking girl but literally walked around facially emotionless and subsequently also looked a bit stuck up so I told her maybe later the 1st day I saw her. Later that night on the 1st day she came over to me as I was about to leave and we got to talk a little bit and she wasn't as stuck up as that 1st impression gave me. Told her I'the see her when I come back the next day but she laughed and didn't believe me so when I showed up the 2nd day she came over. Glad I went with her. She kind of had a cheeky personality. She sat on my lap in those couches near the entrance to the club and I asked her if she was going to let me lick her little pussy. She of course replied yes and then asked if I wanted to do anything else and then giggled. Told her I wanted her to suck my cock and let me fuck her and kiss her all over. I asked her how much and then she said how much do you want to give me. I went with 150 and we were good. I liked her. We talked a bit on the way to the room and inside and I immediately went into sucking on her tits and getting her nipples hard before lying her on the bed and spreading her legs open to suck on her pussy. It was so tiny and looked amazing. She ended up taking over after a few minutes and made my lye down so she could mount me for 69. She gave some good head and I could taste her pussy start to get wet. I know it's their job and it's all an act but she seemed to like the pussy licking and based on tasting her wetness and her pushing her pussy into my face she seemed to be enjoying it. I tried thrusting my cock into her mouth a few times and she was willing though sometimes teeth would get in the way. After pushing my tongue up to her ass and then deep inside her pussy a few times I told her I wanted to fuck, on came the rubber and this time I had no problem keeping hard and burst a load into the rubber while in doggy. Good times. And another check mark for a newfound love of tiny Moldovans. 180 for 30 minutes. Fuck, BBBJ, DATY, fingering, multiple positions, kissing with light tongue, ass / tits licking.
After this the travelling, fucking, long days sightseeing seemed to catch up to me and I relaxed outside eating some food before calling it a night. Good times.
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[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2705510]Just wanted to piggyback onto this one as you did a good job for the newbies describing how to get there, etc. I also stayed across the road from Frankfurt hbf main at the intercity hotel. It was a good hotel and amazing access to the station. I went public transport the whole way but my T-Mobile reception was sometimes crappy around the club so just pointing out if you do that then I had screenshots of the train times back to Frankfurt Hbf main for the night hours. The trains go back all night but there's a slight gap between 1 am-3:30 am so just check that so you're not back at Darmstadt hbf during these times as you could be staying in the club instead of waiting for the train. Also make sure to get the 9 euro ticket from the DB ticket vending machines. It gives you free access to all the trains, buses and trams (except the flixbus, the IC and ICE trains but you won't use any of these for getting to sharks or Mainhattan). Also, different than in the states but you just walk on the trains and buses. There's no scanning your ticket to get on. It works on the honors basis but there are ticket inspectors who come on and check so just make sure you have a ticket and honestly for 9 euros it's not that much to just have it.
I caught the Rb67 rb68 train down to Darmstadt hbf in the afternoons (just check google maps for the best options) and then took the are bus in the direction of Nordstradt. It leaves from bus platform 2 right outside the station (there are tall green lcd screens with platform names on them. Just look for platform 2 once you walk outside the station). It's only about a 7 minute bus ride from Darmstadt and you get off at Daimlerweig. Anyways, just wanted to point out the bus and train option was incredibly easy. The are bus I think stops running in the evening hours so you may have to do taxi at night.
For getting back to Darmstadt I used the freenow phone app. It's a taxi hailing service and works just like the Uber app. Anyways it was 10.70 euros to get back to Darmstadt from the club in the evening at about 12:30 am. It may be a better alternative to Uber in this area. The 2nd time I was at sharks I couldn't get a phone signal outside the club but the taxis were already waiting. One quoted me 12 euros back to the station but I said I only had 10 euros and he accepted that anyways.[/QUOTE]Your post is good in detail. Is the 9 euro train ticket you mention something special or just a normal day ticket? Whenever I hear someone say they stayed near the train station, I wonder if their hotel was quiet. I liked the one I stayed at the first couple of times but it had a lot of street noise. I have stayed at a different one now that is quiet. It is kind of a big deal for me due to get lag.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2705607]Your post is good in detail. Is the 9 euro train ticket you mention something special or just a normal day ticket? Whenever I hear someone say they stayed near the train station, I wonder if their hotel was quiet. I liked the one I stayed at the first couple of times but it had a lot of street noise. I have stayed at a different one now that is quiet. It is kind of a big deal for me due to get lag.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bahn.com/en/offers/regional/9-euro-ticket-en[/URL]
It's a special deal between June and August to ride (not all) trains for 9 Euro a month. Not valid on long distance trains (ICE, EC, IC).
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Just back from Sharks with few notes.
- stayed at Intercity Hotel Darmstadt and used bus to Sharks (7 Minute) , back to hotel by Taxi (10 Euro).
- same girls from many month (few new).
- I didn't see my favourite girl Mara, so i was little disappointed.
- I met with Juliana, great girl, cute, rate is 100/30 OR 150/60 ,great services, deep kissing, amazing girl.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2705607]Your post is good in detail. Is the 9 euro train ticket you mention something special or just a normal day ticket? Whenever I hear someone say they stayed near the train station, I wonder if their hotel was quiet. I liked the one I stayed at the first couple of times but it had a lot of street noise. I have stayed at a different one now that is quiet. It is kind of a big deal for me due to get lag.[/QUOTE]As the other poster put, the 9 euro ticket is a special deal to offset the rising energy prices (I believe). It lasts for the entire month you choose (June, July or August) and can be used on all public transport but not the flixbus, IC or ICE trains. But for Frankfurt as an example, it will work on the S bahn (subway), trams, buses as well as the RC trains down to Darmstadt and back. If you end up travelling to other cities within Germany you can use the same ticket for that cities public transport for the month you chose. At the DB ticket vending machines you just pick the month you need. As I was there in June I chose the month of June. In July you would need to buy another 9 euro pass and likewise in August. After August the promo ends. A significant saving vs having to buy individual tickets, day passes, etc.
I stayed at the Intercity hotel at Frankfurt hbf main station. Was on the 7th floor. Heard absolutely no noise at all from the station or street below. Might be a good choice for you? Not sure if lower levels may have more street noise??
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2705679]Just back from Sharks with few notes.
- stayed at Intercity Hotel Darmstadt and used bus to Sharks (7 Minute) , back to hotel by Taxi (10 Euro).
- same girls from many month (few new).
- I didn't see my favourite girl Mara, so i was little disappointed.
- I met with Juliana, great girl, cute, rate is 100/30 OR 150/60 ,great services, deep kissing, amazing girl.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had the same Juliana girl I had. I also enjoyed her. So short and tiny.
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Can I buy over the counter Viagra in Germany?
Can anyone tell me if Viagra is over the counter in German pharmacies?
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Just wondering. Is there now porn kino in Sharks?
I am planning couple of days in the Frankfurt region and was wondering whether to position myself around Sharks or Oase. As having sex in the porn kino is big thing for me.
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[QUOTE=TomRifle;2705829]Just wondering. Is there now porn kino in Sharks?
I am planning couple of days in the Frankfurt region and was wondering whether to position myself around Sharks or Oase. As having sex in the porn kino is big thing for me.[/QUOTE]No more kino at Sharks and Oase, but many screens playing porn at Oase. Great improvement at Sharks = more screens playing now different sports, bravo to Sharks. Kino at Palace and Mainhattan.
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[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2705715]Sounds like you had the same Juliana girl I had. I also enjoyed her. So short and tiny.[/QUOTE]Yes. Thats Juliana.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2705679]Just back from Sharks with few notes.
- stayed at Intercity Hotel Darmstadt and used bus to Sharks (7 Minute) , back to hotel by Taxi (10 Euro).
- same girls from many month (few new).
- I didn't see my favourite girl Mara, so i was little disappointed.
- I met with Juliana, great girl, cute, rate is 100/30 OR 150/60 ,great services, deep kissing, amazing girl.[/QUOTE]Falling level of looks for more expensive. At 6 NL, almost no upselling when was 50/30 and some upselling now when club increased rate to 60 for first 30 minutes.
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Sounds great
Where is 6 NL? I could not find it using search. Sounds like a terrific place.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2705846]Falling level of looks for more expensive. At 6 NL, almost no upselling when was 50/30 and some upselling now when club increased rate to 60 for first 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2705981]Where is 6 NL? I could not find it using search. Sounds like a terrific place.[/QUOTE]Not so good than on end of 2021, FKK Sixens in NL on Aachen border.
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Pharmacies in Germany
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2705817]Can anyone tell me if Viagra is over the counter in German pharmacies?[/QUOTE]The straight answer is: nope! You'll be needing a receipt from a phisician in order to purchase erection aiding pills in German pharmacies. You may try with a receipt from your country, it could probably work. There's no other legal way to procure it but pharmacies. All the well-known brands are available, however insanely expensive. Pharmacists in Germany are a well organized mob with a strong lobby which influences the legislative committees.
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Trip Report Tuesday
So I am back Europe after almost a year. I used to spend 6 months a year in Europe prior to Covid.
I am from NYC.
Staying in Frankfurt city center because of business. Have recently started using Seeking and have had so far much more interest than I thought. Have 2 meetings today and 1 scheduled for last night which I cancelled because I really wanted to go to Sharks.
It was almost 3 years since my last visit as I normally would hit Globe and Aphrodesia in Zurich.
I dated a globe / aphrodesia woman for almost 3 years and know all the FKK games.
Anyway here is the trip report Tuesday June 7:
65 E Uber from JW Marriott.
65 E entry.
Arrival 8 pm.
Talent: was not impressed. Most 5-6's. Few 7's. Handful 8's. No real 9's-10's imo. Was surprised by the amount of fat girls, soft girls.
Got a drink, took a walk and sat at the bar. Had the usual come up ask for company.
Politely declined, but had some good conversations.
One of the 8's, was sitting at the bar looking very bitchy and I walked over. Romanian Blond, 25 natural tits, one small tattoo, and great body, no cellulite. We had a good conversation and seem to get along. She then called over her friend, Romanian Brunette, 29, fake well done tits, hard body, few tattoos. Lizzie and Aaliyah I think, not sure.
We start drinking and taking shots. Party gets started and the negotiating continues. Both of them with BBBJ, full French kissing, 69, any position, lesbo show, anything I want except anal.
I was thinking this was a bad idea and should have stayed with the Girl from Seeking who was a solid 9. 5.
Little head and grey goose took over. Plus I had been drinking before, so it was game on.
They were in a very happy mood and went to the room.
It got crazy from the jump. It was full on girl on girl, both on me, both gagged and deep throat, smacking ass, one sucking balls, one blowing me, while eating pussy. We had to stop for air and water and vodka once. I blew my load in the final minutes. Gave myself a Pat on the back for lasting so long and thanked Jack Daniels in my head, LOL.
The brunette said that was the first time she had to really work for her money in 3 years, said she has been working on and off for 4 years. The blonde said she was working for 8 months and the first time she really got fucked hard and is done for the night.
I don't like GFE sex, I am more of a PSE guy, hardcore, hair pulling, ass smacking / choking etc.
Most girls don't meet my expectations, these 2 were great. They said if they knew that I was a machine, it would have been more.
They offered to spend the night with me today out of the club, but still negotiating price. But, I have 2 seeking dates and hoping for some AO from them, if not will hit Sharks tonight, because I fly out in the morning.
2. 5 hours- 400 E each. I know expensive from what I read here. But, if I enjoyed it don't care.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2705840]No more kino at Sharks and Oase.....[/QUOTE]I liked the kino at Oase. Girls who hunted there were always prepared to session there. Therefore, those girls were prepared to give good service because prospective clients would be watching. I never completed a session in the kino but when I took the girl to the room she always gave good service. Girls who hunted in the kino were good service girls.
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Cash only?
I have a trip planned to Sharks in the next month. I'll be in Darmstadt for 2 nights. Does sharks take cash? Do you carry it in your robe? Will I pay the women directly, or when I'm leaving?
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So is the normal asking price for a covered BJ 100430 and 150430? I am asking because I see so many 150430 and hell. Is see even you guys talk about 200430 and even 3004100 - is this real? Still such a sellers market?
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100/30 m BBBJ included. Some ask 200/60 m but most do 150/60 m.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2706431]So is the normal asking price for a covered BJ 100430 and 150430? I am asking because I see so many 150430 and hell. Is see even you guys talk about 200430 and even 3004100 - is this real? Still such a sellers market?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2706295]I liked the kino at Oase. Girls who hunted there were always prepared to session there. Therefore, those girls were prepared to give good service because prospective clients would be watching. I never completed a session in the kino but when I took the girl to the room she always gave good service. Girls who hunted in the kino were good service girls.[/QUOTE]I visited 6 different FKKs in about 7 days in May so I may be Mia-remembering but I'm pretty sure the Kino in Palace is still open.
And if it's important the old kino in Coli in Augsburg had a 4 poster in the room as well as a row of chairs where I've had a couple amazing bjs.
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Cash Only?
Is Sharks cash only? Or can I pay with the girls with card?
Apologies if this is a double post. This forum is difficult for me to use.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2706434]100/30 m BBBJ included. Some ask 200/60 m but most do 150/60 m.[/QUOTE]SerpentX's response 100% accurately reflects my experience during my last visit 4 weeks ago
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Cash only. There's an ATM in sharks but it charges fee and doesn't work half of the time. There are 2 ATMs in Darmstadt hbf and they don't charge anything extra.
[QUOTE=Ballin69;2706456]Is Sharks cash only? Or can I pay with the girls with card?
Apologies if this is a double post. This forum is difficult for me to use.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2706431]So is the normal asking price for a covered BJ 100430 and 150430? I am asking because I see so many 150430 and hell. Is see even you guys talk about 200430 and even 3004100 - is this real? Still such a sellers market?[/QUOTE]BBBJ is still quite standard at Sharks and in Germany, because potential CIM extra for girls. , some even selling CIM in condom to Asians. Real french kiss and I don t say with tongue in throat, is the most difficult for many girls and even few at Globe and one of the busiest are not able for more than Romanian baby kiss. Unfortunately, on 2022 , lower level for looks and standard rate seem now 100/30 . For me, not many Sharks looks worth this rate. I think only 4 or 5 visits on this year, when I was weekly on last year, and only 3 rooms, none to speed 600 kms to repeat, when I so often did. At the moment, some other clubs have more interesting casting for less expensive, when quantity at Sharks but not meaning quality at the moment. Club services are higher level than casting now. Pity compare to 2021 .
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So did Sofi (a), tha t"new" German girl in Sharks charge Sirioja 200/60 or not, that's the question? Maybe he can enlighten us with the price structure of the new arrivals in Darmstadt instead of the repeated repetitions of low line-up etc. May be useful for the readers to get insight on the prices charged at the moment in Sharks now that he actually went to the room with a girl.
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[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2707140]So did Sofi (a), tha t"new" German girl in Sharks charge Sirioja 200/60 or not, that's the question? Maybe he can enlighten us with the price structure of the new arrivals in Darmstadt instead of the repeated repetitions of low line-up etc. May be useful for the readers to get insight on the prices charged at the moment in Sharks now that he actually went to the room with a girl.[/QUOTE]Because you, I will answer. Sofi she said, coming from escorting in Rhur. When I woke up to compete with Germans, she was full smiling welcoming and she told 100 per 30 mn, nothing to beg, all what I need included. But as we told, same like at Amesia, when I thought it would be fast with a German like with Sofia Globe, but it was interesting to play with Sofi, so I was not able to finish my game in only 30 mn. Amesia virgin is much more expensive, but prettier and higher level for love sex. About level of casting on Saturday, if no Sofi, I would have left full heavy, when I find at Gold, Penelope, for less expensive, found at 6 on end of last year. I won't rush to speed to Sharks. I didn't ask you how much you paid your girl I don't even name.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2705679]
- same girls from many month (few new).
[/QUOTE]Agreed, rarely did I see any new women.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2704987]My last 3 women at Sharks all said the same thing to me before we went to the room.
It's usually a good indicator that I'll have a great session!
First indicator, the women does NOT sit next to me, but asks if she can sit next to me.
Second indicator, she compliments me and tells me I'm the best looking guy in the club. (I like compliments.
Third indicator, she tells me if we go to the room I can do whatever I want to her.
[/QUOTE]Women in high demand won't even sit next to you, approach you, or compliment you. They're either too busy in and out of rooms or they're sitting somewhere waiting for 3 minutes until the next client comes. Brenda just stands at the bar and waits for the endless clients to take her. Catalina just sits and waits. Both provided great sessions.
The few German women there have never approached me, I approached them, and still had great service.
Mongering isn't an exact science. There's always some risk with getting bad service, and it's a risk I'll gladly take, when there are dozens of other women with good service that will offset the bad ones.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2707380]Agreed, rarely did I see any new women.[/QUOTE]A new German Sofi at Sharks on last week end, with no plastic nor tattoes. Also German Vanessa back, also with no plastic. Both not staying on German table. Many new others seen, but no wow. Miss my ladyT, my 2021 girl in whole FKK land.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2707388]Women in high demand won't even sit next to you, approach you, or compliment you. They're either too busy in and out of rooms or they're sitting somewhere waiting for 3 minutes until the next client comes. Brenda just stands at the bar and waits for the endless clients to take her. Catalina just sits and waits. Both provided great sessions.
The few German women there have never approached me, I approached them, and still had great service.
Mongering isn't an exact science. There's always some risk with getting bad service, and it's a risk I'll gladly take, when there are dozens of other women with good service that will offset the bad ones.[/QUOTE]Brenda was waiting at the bar on last Saturday afternoon. No elected Miss Sharks 2021 .
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Time to counter attack!
I'm a veteran monger in Europe. I'm talking about 1999 back when the RLD in Frankfurt was the creme de crop. There was no FKK saunas back then. You spend like 15 minutes climbing stairs just to find that young mamasita from Venezuela. So I been in country for like 5 days and things have drastically change for the worst since last year visit. Went to my fav FKK OASE twice so far and entry price has increase from 50 E to 65, this increase is not unique to OASE. The food was horrible when compared to FKK Sharks, not even close.
They still have the 50/30 basic service w / o BBBJ. But is more like 50/10 because they want to get out of there ASAP. They all rush you to finish fast, while up selling anything they can. We are paying for time, not per load busted. Sharks went from basic 50/30 to 100/30 likely with BBBJ, Bidens inflation reach Europe or what!? I always try to negotiate but whoever is unionizing these girls, is doing a hell of a job.
I experienced the same pattern in both clubs thru multiple sessions. I know I'm paying for bad sex every time I'm here, but this lazy attitude has become infectious across the Frankfurt area at least. The girls new approach is to take you to the room first and negotiate there. "Yes baby, we go room. We try. You tell me what you want". Naw girlfriend we talk right here and now. This new culture among the girls has to be stopped. So today, I'm going to go in full rattle battle ready for combat. To maybe just maybe make mongering great again.
I'm going to start my stopwatch in the room and show it to her. If I finish early. She can start tickling my feet, do push ups, shadow boxing or whatever I deemed entertaining at the time. Point is by the time she leaves that room I want her to be sweating (they hate that, runs their make up). I tell her, easy money. No sex or touching just do as I say. Keep me entertained.
Who says a man need sex to have sexual gratification? 60% mental 40% physical am I right? Obviously these young girls don't know that. But once they find themselves doing jumping jacks and air squats for 30 minutes, the word will spread. I'll be more than happy to talk to management if that situation arises.
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Thanks for your reply at Sirioja.
Another example of how inflation in Sharks (and many other clubs in Germany for that matter) is getting more and more "strenght" by the week / month. 200/60 seems to be demanded more often obviously and since lots of men seem to be unwilling or uninterested to resist to that (over-) pricing, they get away with it. Off course each visitor should do his own thing and anyone can pay what he thinks is appropriate but honestly it's getting ridiculous. New arrivals like Sofi just demand 200/60 and since she was pretty much booked most of the time, it seems like there is little to none resistance. At some point it seemed to be 100/30 and 150/60 as the standard but things seem to move quickly into 200/60. For sure if regular visitors don't refuse that pricesetting.
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How is the Hessen clubs now in terms of the petite type of girls I like? Sharks in particular and maybe Oase / Palace?
Is Brenda and Sidonia around these days? Or other new hot girls in the 1. 50-1. 63 height range?
Undecided if I will check out Austria or Germany now.
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Until the next recession hits I don't see the price going down. Too many men are paying the new price including local and Turkish. All that happened without Asians being around. Who to blame this time?
[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2707465]Thanks for your reply at Sirioja.
Another example of how inflation in Sharks (and many other clubs in Germany for that matter) is getting more and more "strenght" by the week / month. 200/60 seems to be demanded more often obviously and since lots of men seem to be unwilling or uninterested to resist to that (over-) pricing, they get away with it. Off course each visitor should do his own thing and anyone can pay what he thinks is appropriate but honestly it's getting ridiculous. New arrivals like Sofi just demand 200/60 and since she was pretty much booked most of the time, it seems like there is little to none resistance. At some point it seemed to be 100/30 and 150/60 as the standard but things seem to move quickly into 200/60. For sure if regular visitors don't refuse that pricesetting.[/QUOTE]
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Recession
[QUOTE=SerpentX;2707647]Until the next recession hits I don't see the price going down. Too many men are paying the new price including local and Turkish. All that happened without Asians being around. Who to blame this time?[/QUOTE]We need a recession, and it's overdue. That was true even before the pandemic took hold. The pandemic inserted new inputs that just delayed it. There's still too much money being spent on overly expensive goods and services. That's not going to last. A recession is coming, and I welcome it. Not everything is bad about a recession. What goes up must come down. Time for some things to finally come down, including the cost of real estate. It will take some time. But it will happen!
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[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2707465]Thanks for your reply at Sirioja.
Another example of how inflation in Sharks (and many other clubs in Germany for that matter) is getting more and more "strenght" by the week / month. 200/60 seems to be demanded more often obviously and since lots of men seem to be unwilling or uninterested to resist to that (over-) pricing, they get away with it. Off course each visitor should do his own thing and anyone can pay what he thinks is appropriate but honestly it's getting ridiculous. New arrivals like Sofi just demand 200/60 and since she was pretty much booked most of the time, it seems like there is little to none resistance. At some point it seemed to be 100/30 and 150/60 as the standard but things seem to move quickly into 200/60. For sure if regular visitors don't refuse that pricesetting.[/QUOTE]When I didn t ask You for your girl, but Sofi come from really escorting in Rhur and ask same rate: 100 per 30 . Angela already asked 200/60 in 2021 . I m not good to rush sex, so like at Amesia, I took my time to enjoy and I pay the bill at the end, but 265 for my Saturday at Sharks is not too expensive when didn t see any other worthing 100/30 . My problem at Sharks on 2022 is not to pay 150/60 , but to find attractive looks. And I seem to be in my Germans year, Sofi being the third in Germany.
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Finally
I am finally, after 3 years, going back to Sharks! Just booked my trip for July 7-11. Can not wait! Are other clubs in Frankfurt worth checking out? I've only been to Oase and Sharks. If you're going to be there during those times let me know.
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2707945]I am finally, after 3 years, going back to Sharks! Just booked my trip for July 7-11. Can not wait! Are other clubs in Frankfurt worth checking out? I've only been to Oase and Sharks. If you're going to be there during those times let me know.[/QUOTE]You will have a shock with prices, irs getting harder to find good value in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2707466]How is the Hessen clubs now in terms of the petite type of girls I like? Sharks in particular and maybe Oase / Palace?
Is Brenda and Sidonia around these days? Or other new hot girls in the 1. 50-1. 63 height range?
Undecided if I will check out Austria or Germany now.[/QUOTE]Many petite but the shortest the most expensive, when long legs worth more expensive for me, when more to lick and more impressive than little ducks when bare feet. To know about a girl real height when on more than 20 cms high heels, look at legs length.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2707653]We need a recession, and it's overdue. That was true even before the pandemic took hold. The pandemic inserted new inputs that just delayed it. There's still too much money being spent on overly expensive goods and services. That's not going to last. A recession is coming, and I welcome it. Not everything is bad about a recession. What goes up must come down. Time for some things to finally come down, including the cost of real estate. It will take some time. But it will happen![/QUOTE]They may not come down all that much considering how much the value of money gets depreciated. In the 80's the last time inflation was this high the minimum wage was $3. 35 an hour. A hundred years ago people were paid something like $5 a week which would be $500 today.
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Marginal
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2708061]They may not come down all that much considering how much the value of money gets depreciated. In the 80's the last time inflation was this high the minimum wage was $3. 35 an hour. A hundred years ago people were paid something like $5 a week which would be $500 today.[/QUOTE]I personally don't need things to come down drastically. Just a little bit. Pre-pandemic era would be good enough for me.
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Is Selena (still in Shark? She is Romanian with black hair and should be 155 cm.
And has anyone met already girl of shark outside? (in a hotel and etc.) they accept it?
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Photos
Has anyone ever been able to get photos to show your friends that have never been to an FKK? The "my friends would never believe me" photos?
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Sharks is the New Palace. AVOID AT ALL COST.
Palace lost it popularity among locals and frequent mongers because of the overly aggressive pricing strategy charged by girls.
Sharks will meet the same fate of Palace.
Eventually locals and frequent mongers will stop going to Sharks.
The New FKK Clubs to hang out is up in the NRW Region.
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2708118]Has anyone ever been able to get photos to show your friends that have never been to an FKK? The "my friends would never believe me" photos?[/QUOTE]I've had discussions at Sharks and Palace. The pricing structure makes it less appetizing for me! I've never had an offer less than 400-500. It is all money dependent. To the girls this is a business transaction - if they come to you they want to earn at least what they earned inside the place OR MORE.
Of course if you are a regular or you hit it off, maybe the situation is different.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2708160]...Eventually locals and frequent mongers will stop going to Sharks...[/QUOTE]I had a nice chat with a German from Frankfurt in Acapulco Gold yesterday.
He had driven all the way from Frankfurt to NRW for better prices and better service. He told me that the prices at Sharks are crazy, and that the Girls ignore the locals, targeting only Asians and rich Americans.
What he told me coincides with the impression I get reading this thread. That Sharks is a tourist trap. It will be interesting to see whether there is a long-term market for a club like Sharks.
Please note that I have never visited Sharks in person. (Nor do I plan to).
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2708305]I've had discussions at Sharks and Palace. The pricing structure makes it less appetizing for me! I've never had an offer less than 400-500. It is all money dependent. To the girls this is a business transaction - if they come to you they want to earn at least what they earned inside the place OR MORE.
Of course if you are a regular or you hit it off, maybe the situation is different.[/QUOTE]My approach has always been to openly take pictures in the room with a girl I've previously gone with a few times. Of those, about 20-25% of them just let me keep the pictures without much of a fuss. If they do protest, I just let them delete them and sometimes they'll leave the ones that are a little more modest. The trick is to not be sneaky when taking the pictures and also respect their wishes if they want them deleted. Most of the pics are just normal pics, some nudes, and once in a while sex pics.
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Recent visit
Short visit Sharks last Wed. Arrived around 9 pm. About 80 girls as I estimated.
Since I only had a few hours to spend, I originally planned to go to rooms with girls I got to know before.
Saw Roxy with a customer. I had to seek an alternative. Emma waved hand but charmless to me. An interesting German girl Sophia (sound like that) sitting around bar nodded to me. I seemed infatuated. She quoted 100/30 for basic and 150-200 for Addition. I thought the price for one hour but she confirmed for 30 minutes only! I gave up.
Talked to several other girls including Claudia, Catelee, Bettyna, Ruby, Catherine, Amanda, etc. All of them quoted 100/30 or 200/60 with BBBJ. Eventually I didn't go with any girl and left around 11:45 pm.
I preferred Aca gold much more than Sharks now. At least at AG you could pay 80/60 with Natalie, who could be top 5 in Sharks.
US and EU stock markets are crashing now. Economy is under recession. The price of oil keeps skyrocketing. Russia is winning the war.
I believe the 100/30 and 200/60 are not sustainable anymore. And these Rumanian girls will face challenges and competition from younger and prettier Ukraine girls soon.
The price would drop to 50/30 or even lower at Sharks in next few months. Cross our fingers.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2707466]How is the Hessen clubs now in terms of the petite type of girls I like? Sharks in particular and maybe Oase / Palace?
Is Brenda and Sidonia around these days? Or other new hot girls in the 1. 50-1. 63 height range?
Undecided if I will check out Austria or Germany now.[/QUOTE]Yes, Brenda with huge naturals is still available at the bar close to restaurant.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2708160]Palace lost it popularity among locals and frequent mongers because of the overly aggressive pricing strategy charged by girls.
Sharks will meet the same fate of Palace.
Eventually locals and frequent mongers will stop going to Sharks.
The New FKK Clubs to hang out is up in the NRW Region.[/QUOTE]I confirm on 2022 higher level for less expensive in NRW. Pity when Sharks was really good on 2021 when I had many 100/60 GFE rooms. Most of looks now don t worh 100/30 , when I saw prettier girls yesterday at Gold where 40/30 .
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The QUOTE I included is a mistake. I meant to reply to Blancoco12 about hotel visits
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2708369]My approach has always been to openly take pictures in the room with a girl I've previously gone with a few times. Of those, about 20-25% of them just let me keep the pictures without much of a fuss. If they do protest, I just let them delete them and sometimes they'll leave the ones that are a little more modest. The trick is to not be sneaky when taking the pictures and also respect their wishes if they want them deleted. Most of the pics are just normal pics, some nudes, and once in a while sex pics[/QUOTE]
I did this on my iphone and somehow didn't preview my post. I "meant" to reply to a thread about taking a girl to the hotel. Now it's too late to edit the original. Sorry y'all.
[QUOTE=Blancoco12]
And has anyone met already girl of shark outside? (in a hotel and etc.) they accept it? .[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2708413]I preferred Aca gold much more than Sharks now. At least at AG you could pay 80/60 with Natalie, who could be top 5 in Sharks.
US and EU stock markets are crashing now. Economy is under recession. The price of oil keeps skyrocketing. Russia is winning the war.
I believe the 100/30 and 200/60 are not sustainable anymore. And these Rumanian girls will face challenges and competition from younger and prettier Ukraine girls soon.
The price would drop to 50/30 or even lower at Sharks in next few months. Cross our fingers.[/QUOTE]Hmmm I might have to check out Acapulco Gold. I already stop going to Shark and will not return until thing get back to pre-covid. Just checking out to see if anything has changed. My last two trips were Sao Paulo in Nov 21 and Rio in Jan 22. Looking for my next vacation destination, maybe back to Rio since it is a sure thing.
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How big is AG compared to Sharks?
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2708537]How big is AG compared to Sharks?[/QUOTE]Quantity and garden at Sharks. Few beautiful looks at Gold. I prefer quality than quantity, furthermore when I can get S5 for less expensive than Hyundai or Toyota.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2708413]Short visit Sharks last Wed. Arrived around 9 pm. About 80 girls as I estimated.
Since I only had a few hours to spend, I originally planned to go to rooms with girls I got to know before.
Saw Roxy with a customer. I had to seek an alternative. Emma waved hand but charmless to me. An interesting German girl Sophia (sound like that) sitting around bar nodded to me. I seemed infatuated. She quoted 100/30 for basic and 150-200 for Addition. I thought the price for one hour but she confirmed for 30 minutes only! I gave up.
Talked to several other girls including Claudia, Catelee, Bettyna, Ruby, Catherine, Amanda, etc. All of them quoted 100/30 or 200/60 with BBBJ. Eventually I didn't go with any girl and left around 11:45 pm.
I preferred Aca gold much more than Sharks now. At least at AG you could pay 80/60 with Natalie, who could be top 5 in Sharks.
US and EU stock markets are crashing now. Economy is under recession. The price of oil keeps skyrocketing. Russia is winning the war..[/QUOTE]I doubt girls will return to 50/30, or only few for Turkish. I agree for few better looks at Gold for 40 or 50/30, but level in bed is not on same level. German Sofi is far higher level for sex than Natalia or busy Alexandra or Florentina. I like Natalia natural look when not so heavy face make up than on this Sunday, but she is not even busy at Gold and not able for GFE for my standard. About increasing rates, same like for petrol, as we say in France, we don't have petrol or so few, but we have ideas, so I sold around 200 P.S. Powered with diesel and will buy and increase for more than 400 P.S. A elegant beauty I will engineer with French technology flexifuel, so, with double powerful, but will cost less expensive to speed, with such exceptional noble engine. Will make me hard when I will push engine start on morning.
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Sharks pricing
Looks like Sharks bit off more than it could chew!
I'm headed to NRW instead of Frankfurt today given all the reports.
Yesterday in Munich. FKK Sunshine, Club Acapulco, Laierkausten, and Vitalia. Only did rooms in Sunshine and Laierkausten. But mentioning it here for this reason - 200/ hour in every one of those four locations in Bavaria. So I'm not sure Sharks is so much more expensive. But it is definitely more expensive than NRW.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2708616]Yesterday in Munich. FKK Sunshine, Club Acapulco, Laierkausten, and Vitalia ... 200/ hour in every one of those four locations in Bavaria.[/QUOTE]A bit strange that they manage to keep the price level that high, given how close Munich is to Ingolstadt (FKK Hawaii), Augsburg (FKK Colosseum) and Salzburg (FKK Mystic).
The again. I think Munich is renowned for being a shit place to exercise our hobby?
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2708537]How big is AG compared to Sharks?[/QUOTE]AG as in Acapulco Gold? Cannot be compared at all. Sharks is an A list club. Acapulco Gold is an you tier list. So far down the alphabet I'm not sure which number of tier it is.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2708537]How big is AG compared to Sharks?[/QUOTE]Maybe 30-35 girls on a busy weekend at AG. Sharks has had 150. And the average looks at AG is also worse. Though some people do brag about better service. Whatever they mean by that.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2708413]At least at AG you could pay 80/60 with Natalie, who could be top 5 in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Is that the Romanian brunette with the Asian looking eyes?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2708616]Looks like Sharks bit off more than it could chew!
I'm headed to NRW instead of Frankfurt today given all the reports.
Yesterday in Munich. FKK Sunshine, Club Acapulco, Laierkausten, and Vitalia. Only did rooms in Sunshine and Laierkausten. But mentioning it here for this reason - 200/ hour in every one of those four locations in Bavaria. So I'm not sure Sharks is so much more expensive. But it is definitely more expensive than NRW.[/QUOTE]Would love to read your Sunshine report. On my list to visit in a few weeks.
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[QUOTE=TraLaLax;2708625]A bit strange that they manage to keep the price level that high, given how close Munich is to Ingolstadt (FKK Hawaii), Augsburg (FKK Colosseum) and Salzburg (FKK Mystic).
The again. I think Munich is renowned for being a shit place to exercise our hobby?[/QUOTE]Bavaria has the highest household income in Germany. Hamburg is similar, hence why mongering in those areas is generally more expensive.
NRW is mostly a blue collar area. The people around former communist Berlin are also pretty low income so mongering in those areas is a bit cheaper (with the exception of Artemis due to its FKK monopoly).
Hessen is in between but closer to the higher end of the spectrum so prices there are also able to support a somewhat higher price threshold. However the current Hessen market and pricing is absurd and there's no way those prices hold up without a reduction in supply of clubs. Hessen Big Five has already reduced to Hessen Big Three and even that is being lenient to Palace and even Oase as still being considered one of the big guys.
Manhattan is only still open because of the money laundering activities of their owners, same with World. No way those 2 clubs are actually profitable on FKK business alone. Oase is just a playground for the old owner, no real profits.
Palace is only still open due to its central location. Sharks is probably the only one of those places that can actually sustain these prices for any significant amount of time, but it's only a matter of time before the finances of their clients run dry. It's not like international business travel will be increasing to pre covid levels any time soon to keep the clients coming.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2708682]Is that the Romanian brunette with the Asian looking eyes?[/QUOTE]No, no Asian look for Natalia and not petite, a natural beauty. Unfortunately, her level in bed is not on look level, but I would be happy to see Natalia twins at Sharks and even at Globe.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2708680]Maybe 30-35 girls on a busy weekend at AG. Sharks has had 150. And the average looks at AG is also worse. Though some people do brag about better service. Whatever they mean by that.[/QUOTE]Yes, less girls at Gold than Sharks, but when did you last visit, when better looks for me at Gold than at Sharks on 2022.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2708616]Looks like Sharks bit off more than it could chew!
I'm headed to NRW instead of Frankfurt today given all the reports.
Yesterday in Munich. FKK Sunshine, Club Acapulco, Laierkausten, and Vitalia. Only did rooms in Sunshine and Laierkausten. But mentioning it here for this reason - 200/ hour in every one of those four locations in Bavaria. So I'm not sure Sharks is so much more expensive. But it is definitely more expensive than NRW.[/QUOTE]More than 95% of looks at Sharks on 2022, don't worth rates asked. You can find prettier girls for less expensive in NRW.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2708413]......Saw Roxy with a customer. I had to seek an alternative. Emma waved hand but charmless to me. An interesting German girl Sophia (sound like that) sitting around bar nodded to me. I seemed infatuated. She quoted 100/30 for basic and 150-200 for Addition. I thought the price for one hour but she confirmed for 30 minutes only! I gave up.
Talked to several other girls including Claudia, Catelee, Bettyna, Ruby, Catherine, Amanda, etc. All of them quoted 100/30 or 200/60 with BBBJ. Eventually I didn't go with any girl and left around 11:45 pm......[/QUOTE]I am thinking that its convenient to start travelling again and I had Germany in mind for this summer since I had a great time there in my last visit in March, 2020. However, I'm not liking the current pricing structure and I may choose another destination that is reasonably priced such as Colombia or Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2708697]Would love to read your Sunshine report. On my list to visit in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]Have posted on Sunshine in the FKK in Munich thread.
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Natalie is a pure Romanian brunette
[QUOTE=Pistons;2708682]Is that the Romanian brunette with the Asian looking eyes?[/QUOTE]Young Natalia has big beautiful eyes with fair white skin. Most Girls in AG are Gypsies. However, Natalie is a pure 100% Romanian brunette. Very pretty.
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On your mark, Get set, Go to Acapulco Gold
The End has come to Sharks.
No local or monger will pay more than 50/30 for a bunch of 6's and 7's.
World End Date 2010.
Oase end date 2014.
Manhattan end date 2016.
Palace end date 2013.
Now it's time for the NRW region.
Saunaclub Acapulco Gold.
Address:
Robert-Zapp-Straße 2 A, 40880 Ratingen, Germany.
Hours: Closes soon ⋅ 3 AM ⋅ Reopens 10 AM.
Phone: +49 2102 7006336.
Samya Highclass FKK Saunaclub.
Address:
Kirschbaumweg 26 A, 50996 Köln, Germany.
Hours: Closes soon ⋅ 3 AM ⋅ Reopens 11 AM.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2708715]Bavaria has the highest household income in Germany. Hamburg is similar, hence why mongering in those areas is generally more expensive.
NRW is mostly a blue collar area. The people around former communist Berlin are also pretty low income so mongering in those areas is a bit cheaper (with the exception of Artemis due to its FKK monopoly).
Hessen is in between but closer to the higher end of the spectrum so prices there are also able to support a somewhat higher price threshold. However the current Hessen market and pricing is absurd and there's no way those prices hold up without a reduction in supply of clubs. Hessen Big Five has already reduced to Hessen Big Three and even that is being lenient to Palace and even Oase as still being considered one of the big guys.
Manhattan is only still open because of the money laundering activities of their owners, same with World. No way those 2 clubs are actually profitable on FKK business alone. Oase is just a playground for the old owner, no real profits.
Palace is only still open due to its central location. Sharks is probably the only one of those places that can actually sustain these prices for any significant amount of time, but it's only a matter of time before the finances of their clients run dry. It's not like international business travel will be increasing to pre covid levels any time soon to keep the clients coming.[/QUOTE]Sharp analysis, thanks.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2708867]The End has come to Sharks.
No local or monger will pay more than 50/30 for a bunch of 6's and 7's.
World End Date 2010.
Oase end date 2014.
Manhattan end date 2016.
Palace end date 2013.
Now it's time for the NRW region.
Saunaclub Acapulco Gold.
Address:
Robert-Zapp-Strae 2 A, 40880 Ratingen, Germany.[/QUOTE]Samya only open at 1 pm and level of looks is not at best now and I doubt You get much more than Turkish for 50. I just wish for prettier looks at Sharks and then I will be happy to return.
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Rhur is quite poor, but a strong FKK land, when almost nothing in rich Bayern where better to go to Austrian border.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2708679]AG as in Acapulco Gold? Cannot be compared at all. Sharks is an A list club. Acapulco Gold is an you tier list. So far down the alphabet I'm not sure which number of tier it is.[/QUOTE]Despite quantity, same than Globe, Sharks is on second ranking for me on 2022 , when Gold have more potential for looks for me. But hard job for a kisser like me at Gold. But I m not interested to kiss average looks.
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Erm. Gold. No. Aca bronze. Just about
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2708867]The End has come to Sharks.
No local or monger will pay more than 50/30 for a bunch of 6's and 7's.
World End Date 2010.
Oase end date 2014.
Manhattan end date 2016.
Palace end date 2013.
Now it's time for the NRW region.
Saunaclub Acapulco Gold.
Address:
Robert-Zapp-Strae 2 A, 40880 Ratingen, Germany.
Hours: Closes soon ⋅ 3 AM ⋅ Reopens 10 AM.
Phone: +49 2102 7006336.
Samya Highclass FKK Saunaclub.
Address:
Kirschbaumweg 26 A, 50996 Kln, Germany.
Hours: Closes soon ⋅ 3 AM ⋅ Reopens 11 AM.[/QUOTE]Do you work at Aca or do you own it? Only joking but you are clearly a big fan! Well, given all the reports on here about how dire things are in Sharks and how good Aca Gold is, I went last night. See my report in that thread. It's ok. It is not a match for clubs like Sharks / Oase even in 2022. I have been to all of these clubs this year (and others). Aca has about 15-20 ladies. There are 4 or 5 very slim and quite pretty girls. More than enough. The prices are incredibly cheap - 40 for 30 minutes includes BBBJ / FS / DFK and DATY. Incredibly reasonable price. For some reason at least with several of the girls I spoke to an hour costs 10 euros. As I said to one girl, I can say ok we finished then you go to the bar and I ask you again for another 40! Truth is 100/ hour has become such a deal in FKK land that you don't quibble about it. But these very cheap prices come with a problem. To make good money the girls want the guy to pop very quickly so the room is really rushed with girls encouraging fast sex (to get the job done). When I asked one of the girls to slow down when she started the session (in Aca) with a BBBJ she ignored me. I told her that she didn't need to get me out of the room quickly. I am happy to pay for one hour. She was delighted. Took her time and the service was good. I watched several Aca girls (notably stunning but miserable Gina) take guys to the room and they were back in the bar inside 15 minutes (I assume after washing). So great prices. And if you like rabbit fucks it's Aca Gold. For anyone who likes to take time in the room and have long leisurely sex, its Aca Bronze or even wooden spoon!
The professional massage guy at Aca is amazing. Better than even Pia at Sharks.
But there is still something special about being surrounded by 80-100 naked women at the big clubs.
Sharks is not dead, it may have become too expensive and an upsell venue. But dead. Nope.
As an FKK tourist if I only had one day and had to chose between Aca Gold and Sharks it would be Sharks with no hesitation.
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Everyone seems to say that Sharks has the best selection of girls. Is that true? What is the downside?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2708965]Do you work at Aca or do you own it? Only joking but you are clearly a big fan! Well, given all the reports on here about how dire things are in Sharks and how good Aca Gold is, I went last night. See my report in that thread. It's ok. It is not a match for clubs like Sharks / Oase even in 2022. I have been to all of these clubs this year (and others). Aca has about 15-20 ladies. There are 4 or 5 very slim and quite pretty girls. More than enough. The prices are incredibly cheap - 40 for 30 minutes includes BBBJ / FS / DFK and DATY. Incredibly reasonable price. For some reason at least with several of the girls I spoke to an hour costs 10 euros. As I said to one girl, I can say ok we finished then you go to the bar and I ask you again for another 40! Truth is 100/ hour has become such a deal in FKK land that you don't quibble about it. But these very cheap prices come with a problem. To make good money the girls want the guy to pop very quickly so the room is really rushed with girls encouraging fast sex (to get the job done). When I asked one of the girls to slow down when she started the session (in Aca) with a BBBJ she ignored me. I told her that she didn't need to get me out of the room quickly. I am happy to pay for one hour. She was delighted. Took her time and the service was good. I watched several Aca girls (notably stunning but miserable Gina) take guys to the room and they were back in the bar inside 15 minutes (I assume after washing). So great prices. And if you like rabbit fucks it's Aca Gold. For anyone who likes to take time in the room and have long leisurely sex, its Aca Bronze or even wooden spoon!
The professional massage guy at Aca is amazing. Better than even Pia at Sharks.
But there is still something special about being surrounded by 80-100 naked women at the big clubs.
Sharks is not dead, it may have become too expensive and an upsell venue. But dead. Nope.
As an FKK tourist if I only had one day and had to chose between Aca Gold and Sharks it would be Sharks with no hesitation.[/QUOTE]At the moment, I choose Gold when only attractive looks interest me, but not on a Tuesday, neither at Sharks, when I try to be a good professional in all what I do, hating average. Yes, quantity at Sharks, but not much quality on 2022 and average is for much too expensive.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2708715]Bavaria has the highest household income in Germany. Hamburg is similar, hence why mongering in those areas is generally more expensive.
NRW is mostly a blue collar area. The people around former communist Berlin are also pretty low income so mongering in those areas is a bit cheaper (with the exception of Artemis due to its FKK monopoly).
Hessen is in between but closer to the higher end of the spectrum so prices there are also able to support a somewhat higher price threshold. However the current Hessen market and pricing is absurd and there's no way those prices hold up without a reduction in supply of clubs. Hessen Big Five has already reduced to Hessen Big Three and even that is being lenient to Palace and even Oase as still being considered one of the big guys.
Manhattan is only still open because of the money laundering activities of their owners, same with World. No way those 2 clubs are actually profitable on FKK business alone. Oase is just a playground for the old owner, no real profits.
Palace is only still open due to its central location. Sharks is probably the only one of those places that can actually sustain these prices for any significant amount of time, but it's only a matter of time before the finances of their clients run dry. It's not like international business travel will be increasing to pre covid levels any time soon to keep the clients coming.[/QUOTE]Some interesting points. I, respectfully, disagree with you though that these clubs will close. Sex sells. I remember these same arguments about pricing in other places around the world and the clubs are still doing well, the prices are still the same and we continue to still pay, despite reminiscing about the times when it was cheaper.
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[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2709109]Some interesting points. I, respectfully, disagree with you though that these clubs will close. Sex sells. I remember these same arguments about pricing in other places around the world and the clubs are still doing well, the prices are still the same and we continue to still pay, despite reminiscing about the times when it was cheaper.[/QUOTE]Perhaps not literally closed but rather become places like World and Manhattan which are just basically institutions for money laundering.
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[QUOTE=NyyRanger;2709014]Everyone seems to say that Sharks has the best selection of girls. Is that true? What is the downside?[/QUOTE]Biggest quantity of girls at Sharks, around 70/80 on Friday and Saturday, but don t mean quality, when level of looks is really average. And more and more expensive asked.
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Trip report
I had a long layover last Friday in FRA and decided visit Sharks. I wandered around the old town in the morning and took RE82 shortly after 11 at main station. Got off at Darmstadt Nord and walked about 15 min to get to Sharks shortly after 12. There were about 20 girls. Unfortunately none of them really stood out, so I waited for new girls. I saw more coming in the afternoon. There were about 50 or more in late afternoon. The line up was just so-so. I couldn't find any stunner by my type or someone that I have strong desire to session with. There are two women who I found attractive, but they were hanging out with their regulars seemingly: one was at the pool (blond) and the other (dirty blond) was at top floor.
I chatted with Emma a bit, and she quoted me 100/30. I told her I don't go to sessions with girls charging above house price, then she walked away. I ended up having a session with 1. A Spanish girl (Alexandra?) and 2. A Romanian girl (Ruby?) on separate account. Sorry I can't remember their exact names. I told them I'd do 50/30 if they want the session. They all agreed but told me it'd be no kissing on the lip and all covered (BJ + sex). I was ok with it. The 1st session went ok. The girl was a bit rushing to finish though and wouldn't let me DATY. She was trying to brought up charging more, and I told her "don't ruin the good moment" and continued to finish. The second session was much better. I spent quite a time eating her out. The girl has a great ass, and I finished my session in doggie. In the end I paid her 50 plus 10.
I had to left for airport around 6. All-in-all, it was a pleasant afternoon visit.
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Is Shiva around these days?
Does anyone know if Shiva is in Sharks these days? Iranian girl, brunette, huge ass. She's a former Oase girl, but I've been told she's in Sharks these days.
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[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2709809]Does anyone know if Shiva is in Sharks these days? Iranian girl, brunette, huge ass. She's a former Oase girl, but I've been told she's in Sharks these days.[/QUOTE]I saw her on my 2022 visits. Doesn't seem so busy at Sharks than she was at Oase on Summer 2021 .
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[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;2709809]Does anyone know if Shiva is in Sharks these days? Iranian girl, brunette, huge ass. She's a former Oase girl, but I've been told she's in Sharks these days.[/QUOTE]Shiva is still in Sharks and she works quite well.
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Scammer failed
So after some terrible experiences in and out of Shark since last week, I hit the melting point.
I had a session with Samara Iranian / Hungarian mix skinny girl. She came to me, honey potted me the usual. "Nice sex, make you happy" yada yada. Promised you the time of your life. We agree 100/30 min, the standard ongoing high rate. I officially tracked time during this encounter. I started with DATY and she complain about my facial scruff. I went to the nipples and she like go easy too sensitive. Not a good start. Shen then like "don't worry about satisfy me, I satisfy you". BBBJ was decent, I told her to keep going when she decided to stop.
During sex she told me only straight in / out, no shaking (hitting the walls). Great more restrictions. After 8-10 minutes of fucking, she like " Ok time to finish, my stomach is hurting me" I still had about 15 minutes on the clock. At this point I had enough and told her you killed the mood and we argue. She like " We can do one hour if you want more". I told her " WTF!! You killed my boner. Why would I spend anymore time with you. She mention at some point " Here we do what we want, the girl decides". Told her I talking to management. She then tries to smooth it over with handjob or whatever, since I never finished. I haul ass out of the room, left her talking by herself. I requested the manager while still having 7 minutes on th clock with her, I advised the front lady of that fact.
When the manager came, we talked in the office she was there and one security guy. Told the manager I still have 5 minutes left of time and I'm here dealing with this. Literally paying for complaining. Told him everything, she didn't say much. He ask me how much you think is fair? I said 30 E. He concluded on 40 E based on the totality. I agreed. She was PISSED!! The underboss lady later took her to a different office I believe.
Most of these hoes (not all) are running a scam operation here. You pay for 30 get 15 or 60 get 30.
They want your ass out of there ASAP. Combined with all the false advertising the sell you. Also noticed how they never give you a price anymore, they just want to rush you to the room and negotiate there.
Fellas is time to get management involved in order to stop this cancer from growing.
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[QUOTE=Lancelot53;2709984]So after some terrible experiences in and out of Shark since last week, I hit the melting point.
I had a session with Samara Iranian / Hungarian mix skinny girl. She came to me, honey potted me the usual. "Nice sex, make you happy" yada yada. Promised you the time of your life. We agree 100/30 min, the standard ongoing high rate. I officially tracked time during this encounter. I started with DATY and she complain about my facial scruff. I went to the nipples and she like go easy too sensitive. Not a good start. Shen then like "don't worry about satisfy me, I satisfy you". BBBJ was decent, I told her to keep going when she decided to stop.
During sex she told me only straight in / out, no shaking (hitting the walls). Great more restrictions. After 8-10 minutes of fucking, she like " Ok time to finish, my stomach is hurting me" I still had about 15 minutes on the clock. At this point I had enough and told her you killed the mood and we argue. She like " We can do one hour if you want more". I told her " WTF!! You killed my boner. Why would I spend anymore time with you. She mention at some point " Here we do what we want, the girl decides". Told her I talking to management. She then tries to smooth it over with handjob or whatever, since I never finished. I haul ass out of the room, left her talking by herself. I requested the manager while still having 7 minutes on th clock with her, I advised the front lady of that fact.
When the manager came, we talked in the office she was there and one security guy. Told the manager I still have 5 minutes left of time and I'm here dealing with this. Literally paying for complaining. Told him everything, she didn't say much. He ask me how much you think is fair? I said 30 E. He concluded on 40 E based on the totality. I agreed. She was PISSED!! The underboss lady later took her to a different office I believe.
Most of these hoes (not all) are running a scam operation here. You pay for 30 get 15 or 60 get 30.
They want your ass out of there ASAP. Combined with all the false advertising the sell you. Also noticed how they never give you a price anymore, they just want to rush you to the room and negotiate there.
Fellas is time to get management involved in order to stop this cancer from growing.[/QUOTE]Well done for standing up for yourself and for escalating to management. That type of behavior is absolutely unacceptable and must be nipped in the bud.
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[QUOTE=Lancelot53;2709984]So after some terrible experiences in and out of Shark since last week, I hit the melting point.
I had a session with Samara Iranian / Hungarian mix skinny girl. She came to me, honey potted me the usual. "Nice sex, make you happy" yada yada. Promised you the time of your life. We agree 100/30 min, the standard ongoing high rate. I officially tracked time during this encounter. I started with DATY and she complain about my facial scruff. I went to the nipples and she like go easy too sensitive. Not a good start. Shen then like "don't worry about satisfy me, I satisfy you". BBBJ was decent, I told her to keep going when she decided to stop.
During sex she told me only straight in / out, no shaking (hitting the walls). Great more restrictions. After 8-10 minutes of fucking, she like " Ok time to finish, my stomach is hurting me" I still had about 15 minutes on the clock. At this point I had enough and told her you killed the mood and we argue. She like " We can do one hour if you want more". I told her " WTF!! You killed my boner. Why would I spend anymore time with you. She mention at some point " Here we do what we want, the girl decides". Told her I talking to management. She then tries to smooth it over with handjob or whatever, since I never finished. I haul ass out of the room, left her talking by herself. I requested the manager while still having 7 minutes on th clock with her, I advised the front lady of that fact.
When the manager came, we talked in the office she was there and one security guy. Told the manager I still have 5 minutes left of time and I'm here dealing with this. Literally paying for complaining. Told him everything, she didn't say much. He ask me how much you think is fair? I said 30 E. He concluded on 40 E based on the totality. I agreed. She was PISSED!! The underboss lady later took her to a different office I believe.
Most of these hoes (not all) are running a scam operation here. You pay for 30 get 15 or 60 get 30.
They want your ass out of there ASAP. Combined with all the false advertising the sell you. Also noticed how they never give you a price anymore, they just want to rush you to the room and negotiate there.
Fellas is time to get management involved in order to stop this cancer from growing.[/QUOTE]Your whole experience sounds like a real nightmare which I've been fortunate not to experience at Sharks.
However I totally agree with you about the prices, it's becoming a joke!
You can still get the 50 for 30 minutes albeit from a very few girls, either from the less attractive or girls giving the "basic" service.
However although you rightly state that 100 30 minutes or 150 for 60 minutes is the norm, there does seem more ladies wanting 200 for 60 minutes. Irrespective whether I can afford these prices I just don't consider any sexual encounter is worth it at that rate an hour so If this becomes the norm I will severely reduce my visits to the club.
I appreciate the pricing structure hadn't changed for many years before the pandemic and maybe an increase was due but the percentage increase has ridiculous got out of control.
Luckily for the management at Sharks (and the ladies) this hasn't affected the attendance at the club on the peak days but I've noticed on the less popular days there are definitely fewer customers than before. If this trend starts to feed into the popular days Sharks could start to see a decline.
However fortunately for Sharks the other Clubs in Hessen are not the strong competition that they were before the pandemic so hence the Sharks club is getting away with girls charging more and in some cases offering less.
Apart from the increase in prices I've been lucky that generally I've selected well and haven't had a bad experience. Yet!
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First FKK experience
I had my first FKK experience last week. I went on a couple of week days. Cash only. Easy walk from Darmstadt-Nord. Let me know if you have any other logistical questions. Post is formatted as an information dump.
In the early afternoon, maybe 20-30 girls. By late afternoon maybe 40-50 girls. I was there on 2 week days. I think less than half were enhanced.
Few girls quote 50/30, but say that 100/30 will be a better experience. Almost all girls quote 100/30. Some girls even quoted me 150/30 (yes, you read that correctly), but I realized that the only girls who quoted me this rate only did so after asking where I was from (USA). Lesson learned. If you're coming from the USA, tell the girls you are from England. Admitting that you spent $ on a plane ticket from the USA is a sure way to get quoted a higher rate. I'm also young, so maybe they thought this was my first time mongering.
I have mongered in Tijuana and Brazil before and made some observations about how Sharks compares. If you're already a veteran regular and / or dgaf about my observations, skip to the end for reviews on the actual girls.
First off, Sharks is not a place where you point and fuck who you think is sexy. Yes, of course you can do that, similar to Hong Kong in Tijuana, but you will be missing the point. The point of the FKK is to flirt with the girls in the front room and make them seduce you. This is very fun, and evokes a much different emotional and mental response (for me at least) than the point and fuck in more standard brothels. Maybe I'm just weak, but I actually found myself missing a couple of the girls after leaving Darmstadt. I know, I know, they're just hookers trying to get me hooked, but they are actually really fun to hang out with in non-sexual ways (and of course sexual ways as well). Much more of a girl friend experience than a hook up experience, comparatively. Any tips for how to get over my feelings? LOL.
The girls in Sharks are less attractive on average than the termas girls in Brazil or the strippers in HK Tijuana. Most patrons are old, and that is the target audience. Maybe the older patrons can better stomach fucking a 35 yo than I can. However the FKK girls are a lot better at flirting and making conversation, and your time with them will be more like fucking a girl you met an hour ago, rather than a girl you met 2 min ago. If you show up early (opening to around 3 pm) the girls will be much less rushed in trying to get you into a room. If you show up at peak hours, don't expect to be able to flirt for a long time before fucking -- the girls are there to make money, especially from the late afternoon until close.
I don't think I would come to Sharks in the winter, or any time that the outside isn't happening. The outside area is what distinguishes the FKK from a normal brothel. At least, in Sharks there was basically nothing to do inside other than talk to the girls. Much more interesting to swim with the girls, or "help" them with their sunscreen etc. I've read that Oase has ping pong tables and soccer outside. Sharks needs to get on that ASAP -- get rid of the extra 30 lounge chairs and get some ping pong going. I would love to play ping pong with a hot naked girl and then fuck her.
The pool area during the day was incredible. Seeing the girls genuinely having a good time pressed something in me that was different than any other brothel type experience. Yeah I'm sure a lot of it was for show, but they are definitely enjoying themselves by the pool and the pool girls seems to know each other very well. I wish other establishments would take into consideration what types of features the girls like, because it seems like the girls really like the pool area, and it would be awesome to see more working girls having real fun on the job. It makes for a unique experience at Sharks.
That said, I'm sad that Sharks is known as the best FKK. I know some of the locals are upset that it's being turned into a tourist trap, but the FKK idea is so good, but the execution is so poor compared to the Brazilian termas and HK in Tijuana. Imagine an FKK 5 times as big as sharks with acres in the backyard with 200+ girls. I would definitely fly from the states to experience that, and would definitely pay more than 100 per pop. Maybe there's just not a market for it in Germany? As it is, it's just kind of cool and different.
Food was edible. Nothing special. I didn't go for the food.
Does anyone know why there are so many Turkish patrons?
If you need to escape the feeling of being "accosted" by the women trying to get you to agree to a room, you can hide upstairs. Sometimes girls do wonder up there, but it is much quieter upstairs. I've read a lot of complaints about the girls being aggressive and I have a few thoughts -- don't be afraid to say no. And have a response ready for "Why not?" That is literally their script. Some of them will be rude because they are guessing you will like it when a girl is rude to you. I didn't interpret it as them being offended that I said no, rather they see a lot of men, and have to do their best to seduce them, they have to take some risks and guess what you will like. Sometimes they will guess you like quiet pretty eyes, sometimes a rude girl, sometimes a girl that totally ignores you. Tbh, I really liked a girl who totally ignored me, and was even cold when I approached her.
Okay, here are the girls I sessioned with. I paid 100/30 for all, and was only offered 50/30 twice (but I didn't travel thousands of miles for a covered BJ):
Misha (brunette Romanian): My personal favorite -- went with her 3 times in 2 days. So fucking charming by the pool, running around in her slides, throwing ice cubes at the other girls, jumping onto the floaties, and girlishly horsing around. Sex was good too. She did this weird thing with her pussy where she would pulsate it when she could feel I was about to cum that would force me to finish. BJ was outstanding too, with great tongue tricks and eye contact.
Miriam (blonde Romanian): Another pool girl, small frame with fake boobs. Great at teasing by the pool. I don't think I will ever be able to erase the memory of her bending over in front of me to show me her pussy before running away laughing and telling the other girls that she was going to fuck me. Sex was good, repeated once.
Ruby (blonde Romanian, sit by the bar): This was the girl that was cold to me lmao, and didn't seem interested in talking to me when I approached her, so I wanted her even more. Prettiest eyes I have ever locked with. Amazing sexual chemistry -- she made me believe that it was good for her too, which I appreciate. No fake moans etc. Just real (hopefully) reactions and embarrassing queefs. Would have repeated, but she left early.
Kiki (21 yo Moldovan): Sits on the couches closest to the bar. Also had amazing eyes. Amazing BJ, and missionary sex was good too -- anything to look into her eyes. Would have repeated, but my dick was getting raw.
Some Spanish girl who offered 50/30 (dark hair, dark features): Good service, but wasn't able to compete with the above.
Romain / Italian girl who wears the school girl uniform: Good service, would have repeated but my dick was getting raw. She claimed that if I came back, she would fuck me at the bar for 1 k. I don't think I'd spend 1 k on that, but the offer sounded serious, and I definitely didn't see anyone fucking inside during my entire visit.
There were 2 other girls who I forget. Service was good though.
Open to any advice or questions -- reading this thread helped me a lot to prep.
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[QUOTE=Ballin69;2710188]I had my first FKK experience last week. I went on a couple of week days. Cash only. Easy walk from Darmstadt-Nord. Let me know if you have any other logistical questions. Post is formatted as an information dump.
In the early afternoon, maybe 20-30 girls. By late afternoon maybe 40-50 girls. I was there on 2 week days. I think less than half were enhanced.
Few girls quote 50/30, but say that 100/30 will be a better experience. Almost all girls quote 100/30. Some girls even quoted me 150/30 (yes, you read that correctly), but I realized that the only girls who quoted me this rate only did so after asking where I was from (USA). Lesson learned. If you're coming from the USA, tell the girls you are from England. Admitting that you spent $ on a plane ticket from the USA is a sure way to get quoted a higher rate. I'm also young, so maybe they thought this was my first time mongering.
I have mongered in Tijuana and Brazil before and made some observations about how Sharks compares. If you're already a veteran regular and / or dgaf about my observations, skip to the end for reviews on the actual girls.
First off, Sharks is not a place where you point and fuck who you think is sexy. Yes, of course you can do that, similar to Hong Kong in Tijuana, but you will be missing the point. The point of the FKK is to flirt with the girls in the front room and make them seduce you. This is very fun, and evokes a much different emotional and mental response (for me at least) than the point and fuck in more standard brothels. Maybe I'm just weak, but I actually found myself missing a couple of the girls after leaving Darmstadt. I know, I know, they're just hookers trying to get me hooked, but they are actually really fun to hang out with in non-sexual ways (and of course sexual ways as well). Much more of a girl friend experience than a hook up experience, comparatively. Any tips for how to get over my feelings? LOL.
The girls in Sharks are less attractive on average than the termas girls in Brazil or the strippers in HK Tijuana. Most patrons are old, and that is the target audience. Maybe the older patrons can better stomach fucking a 35 yo than I can. However the FKK girls are a lot better at flirting and making conversation, and your time with them will be more like fucking a girl you met an hour ago, rather than a girl you met 2 min ago. If you show up early (opening to around 3 pm) the girls will be much less rushed in trying to get you into a room. If you show up at peak hours, don't expect to be able to flirt for a long time before fucking -- the girls are there to make money, especially from the late afternoon until close.
I don't think I would come to Sharks in the winter, or any time that the outside isn't happening. The outside area is what distinguishes the FKK from a normal brothel. At least, in Sharks there was basically nothing to do inside other than talk to the girls. Much more interesting to swim with the girls, or "help" them with their sunscreen etc. I've read that Oase has ping pong tables and soccer outside. Sharks needs to get on that ASAP -- get rid of the extra 30 lounge chairs and get some ping pong going. I would love to play ping pong with a hot naked girl and then fuck her.
The pool area during the day was incredible. Seeing the girls genuinely having a good time pressed something in me that was different than any other brothel type experience. Yeah I'm sure a lot of it was for show, but they are definitely enjoying themselves by the pool and the pool girls seems to know each other very well. I wish other establishments would take into consideration what types of features the girls like, because it seems like the girls really like the pool area, and it would be awesome to see more working girls having real fun on the job. It makes for a unique experience at Sharks.
That said, I'm sad that Sharks is known as the best FKK. I know some of the locals are upset that it's being turned into a tourist trap, but the FKK idea is so good, but the execution is so poor compared to the Brazilian termas and HK in Tijuana. Imagine an FKK 5 times as big as sharks with acres in the backyard with 200+ girls. I would definitely fly from the states to experience that, and would definitely pay more than 100 per pop. Maybe there's just not a market for it in Germany? As it is, it's just kind of cool and different.
Food was edible. Nothing special. I didn't go for the food.
Does anyone know why there are so many Turkish patrons?
If you need to escape the feeling of being "accosted" by the women trying to get you to agree to a room, you can hide upstairs. Sometimes girls do wonder up there, but it is much quieter upstairs. I've read a lot of complaints about the girls being aggressive and I have a few thoughts -- don't be afraid to say no. And have a response ready for "Why not?" That is literally their script. Some of them will be rude because they are guessing you will like it when a girl is rude to you. I didn't interpret it as them being offended that I said no, rather they see a lot of men, and have to do their best to seduce them, they have to take some risks and guess what you will like. Sometimes they will guess you like quiet pretty eyes, sometimes a rude girl, sometimes a girl that totally ignores you. Tbh, I really liked a girl who totally ignored me, and was even cold when I approached her.
Okay, here are the girls I sessioned with. I paid 100/30 for all, and was only offered 50/30 twice (but I didn't travel thousands of miles for a covered BJ):
Misha (brunette Romanian): My personal favorite -- went with her 3 times in 2 days. So fucking charming by the pool, running around in her slides, throwing ice cubes at the other girls, jumping onto the floaties, and girlishly horsing around. Sex was good too. She did this weird thing with her pussy where she would pulsate it when she could feel I was about to cum that would force me to finish. BJ was outstanding too, with great tongue tricks and eye contact.
Miriam (blonde Romanian): Another pool girl, small frame with fake boobs. Great at teasing by the pool. I don't think I will ever be able to erase the memory of her bending over in front of me to show me her pussy before running away laughing and telling the other girls that she was going to fuck me. Sex was good, repeated once.
Ruby (blonde Romanian, sit by the bar): This was the girl that was cold to me lmao, and didn't seem interested in talking to me when I approached her, so I wanted her even more. Prettiest eyes I have ever locked with. Amazing sexual chemistry -- she made me believe that it was good for her too, which I appreciate. No fake moans etc. Just real (hopefully) reactions and embarrassing queefs. Would have repeated, but she left early.
Kiki (21 yo Moldovan): Sits on the couches closest to the bar. Also had amazing eyes. Amazing BJ, and missionary sex was good too -- anything to look into her eyes. Would have repeated, but my dick was getting raw.
Some Spanish girl who offered 50/30 (dark hair, dark features): Good service, but wasn't able to compete with the above.
Romain / Italian girl who wears the school girl uniform: Good service, would have repeated but my dick was getting raw. She claimed that if I came back, she would fuck me at the bar for 1 k. I don't think I'd spend 1 k on that, but the offer sounded serious, and I definitely didn't see anyone fucking inside during my entire visit.
There were 2 other girls who I forget. Service was good though.
Open to any advice or questions -- reading this thread helped me a lot to prep.[/QUOTE]Sharks was good on 2021 when not many tourists, but really not the best on 2022 . Business should be a bit slow on this Saturday with many regulars at Oase for kind of Ibiza party but both are low level for looks.
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[QUOTE=Ballin69;2710188]
First off, Sharks is not a place where you point and fuck who you think is sexy. Yes, of course you can do that, similar to Hong Kong in Tijuana, but you will be missing the point. The point of the FKK is to flirt with the girls in the front room and make them seduce you. This is very fun, and evokes a much different emotional and mental response (for me at least) than the point and fuck in more standard brothels. Maybe I'm just weak, but I actually found myself missing a couple of the girls after leaving Darmstadt. I know, I know, they're just hookers trying to get me hooked, but they are actually really fun to hang out with in non-sexual ways (and of course sexual ways as well). Much more of a girl friend experience than a hook up experience, comparatively. Any tips for how to get over my feelings? LOL.
The girls in Sharks are less attractive on average than the termas girls in Brazil or the strippers in HK Tijuana. Most patrons are old, and that is the target audience. Maybe the older patrons can better stomach fucking a 35 yo than I can. However the FKK girls are a lot better at flirting and making conversation, and your time with them will be more like fucking a girl you met an hour ago, rather than a girl you met 2 min ago. If you show up early (opening to around 3 pm) the girls will be much less rushed in trying to get you into a room. If you show up at peak hours, don't expect to be able to flirt for a long time before fucking -- the girls are there to make money, especially from the late afternoon until close.
[/QUOTE]It seem that my experience was the opposite. Wow, the girl are less attractive than Brazil and Tijuana. Last time I was in Shark was 2019, I thought that Shark are more attractive than both. Seem like thing have gone down hill or different taste.
Girl in FKK flirt consist of, Hi how are you, where are you from, do you want to go up. I was just in Rio a few months ago, the girl 10 time more flirty in Monte Carlo, 4 x4 and Solarium. It is expected. Only problem is they don't speak english and I use google translate to chat with them. It is normal to sit there for 30 min to an hours to chat with the girl. I found 2 girl that I really like, I offer to 1000 reais or 200 dollars to spend some longer time with me. From noon to 8 pm. Fuck, go out and eat at a restaurant and go back and fuck again. Only prob with these termas is they are too small. They pack 25 to 50 girl in such a small space, it is difficult to find a chair to sit and chill out. And out of those there is maybe three girls that are hot. That what I like about FKK, you can chill out or lie down on one of the lounge chair and take a nap.
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[QUOTE=Ballin69;2710188]
Romain / Italian girl who wears the school girl uniform: Good service, would have repeated but my dick was getting raw. She claimed that if I came back, she would fuck me at the bar for 1 k. I don't think I'd spend 1 k on that, but the offer sounded serious, and I definitely didn't see anyone fucking inside during my entire visit.
[/QUOTE]That is Rebecca 7. 5 in optics. She been my best experience in Sharks so far. Great personality good skills and no rushing. She did gave me an unsolicited oil check and try to up sell it, but up selling is like the norm these days. She doesn't do anal though. Possible repeat for 30 min.
Today will be my last day in Germany and last Hoorahh at Sharks. I'm coming in full rattle battle ready for a fucking fight. I'm talking about flak vest on with no shirt. The wife was busting my balls too "Poor baby getting scam by hookers". I'll show her LOL.
I do have very high standards when it comes to performance. I will take the 6 over the 10 if I know she will performed as requested. But never take the 10 based on optics alone knowing that she is lame. TIP: "Trophy fucks" are unmemorable after the first one.
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As far as I know Sharks, has had 150 girls in one day, and Artemis had close to that also a few times. But markets are changing. Both supply and demand, and German cities are not as big as Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro. A lot of Germans also prefer to not visit fkks in their own city. Only when they are in other cities in Germany, they chance it. In fear of meeting other people they know. Frankfurt might be the exception here, maybe due to the banking jobs and the culture impaired with those jobs. Other people are easier brainwashed into not visiting fkks. And the Turkish being the largest minority group also don't care much about seeing familiar faces. Plus they might not consider it their own city as much as a local German. So it is easier for them to make a visit.
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Sharks sliding down the list
Final day of my FKK trip having done Sunshine, Aca Gold, Samya, Oase before yesterday.
Decided to have a mad afternoon / evening and hit Mainhattan first (see thread), then to Sharks before ending the night at Palace (see thread)!
Crazy I know! But hey, I'm a tourist and won't be back here for at least 3 months. Wanted to get a proper feel for Hessen after a great day and night at Oase.
Got to Mainhattan 6 pm. One room, some relax then off to Sharks in Uber. Didn't take that long. Into the club, mainly sausage fest. It was an incredibly hot day and the club indoors was really very hot. Too hot. Had some food (for once it was poor) at the BBQ. Lots of old familiar faces (Clara / Emma / Melanie (glasses) etc). Nearly tempted by the enormous talons of Ika who remembered me from a previous visit but I resisted. Ditto Eva, brunette with a lot of tattoos but very pretty. I knew I was only going to do one room before heading to see Jennifer at Palace. It became a toss up between blonde Miriam and Tamara (short blonde. Funny personality). I plumped for the latter. Good room (downstairs as upstairs was so hot). Good service, pretty girl and fun. Didn't have my usual massage. It was just too hot for that.
Recent reports of the LU being weak. They are true. It's nowhere near what it has been in the past, and as Sirioja correctly posts. It is really expensive for the quality being served up. I was offered one 50/30 by an overweight girl on the sofas by the pole "you won't get many girls offering you that in here" she said. I declined but she was right. Worse than that. It strikes me that when it is busy now (and it really was), the old 150/60 is getting harder to find. Miriam agreed to it but Tamara would not initially. She said "my price" is 200/ hour and I have one nice Turkish guy pays me 300/ hour". I had decided by then to room with her but this almost put me off. I told her "your choice baby. We go now for 150/60 or I wish you a good day and hope you get busy in the next hour". Rolling her eyes, she agreed to the price. I told her no upsells for BBBJ etc. But it really quite kills the mood for the financials to have to be so negotiated first.
Guys, and by this I'm directing this comment at all. You are going to help push prices through the roof and ruin our sport if you keep giving in to these price increases. The girls in Sharks think they are blessed. They are not on a par (for me) with the offerings in Oase or Samya. Don't keep paying these silly prices or they will just keep pushing them higher. Vanilla is my favourite girl in Sharks and her body was as stunning as ever. I have had rooms with her the last 4 trips to Sharks. She greeted me warmly in the garden yesterday. I asked what her price is now "it went up to 300/ hour baby but I will do 250 for you". I told her I don't pay 250/ hour for sex anywhere in the whole World. That includes Sharks. She didn't flinch and simply repeated "that's my price".
The problem with the raid on Artemis those years ago is that this "the girls are freelance entrepreneurs" on websites and then the pandemic is meaning that in some venues, and Sharks is top of that list, the girls are starting to embrace that there is no house "price". At both Aca Gold and Samya (two very reasonably priced clubs) this week, I was told on reception "prices for the girls for the first half hour START at. " It was made clear this was a minimum. But whilst the NRW clubs appear to have retained some sort of house expectancy, Sharks has lost it.
My rating on the clubs I visited this week based upon (and in this order):
1. Line up 2. Ambience /"feel" of the club. 3. Facilities / food / wellness.
1. Oase. Stood out as easily the best for me.
2. Samya. Loud but a real party, best food all week, and lots of good options (LU).
3. Aca Gold. Cheap, small but good feel to the place.
4. Mainhattan. Outdoor area small but nice, food always is good and LU mainly brunette Romanians (which I like) and slim.
5. Palace. LU was not strong but Jennifer always makes it worth it.
6. Sharks. The wasps in the garden are worse than ever, and the sharks inside are as bad!
7. Sunshine. Munich - too small and poor LU.
8. Oceans. No longer an FKK. It is a nightclub where hookers work.
As this thread is about FKKs I have not included Laierkausen in Munich (a Laufhaus) but would have come in at 3 in the above list, and based on line up alone it would have come 1st.
I could not resist the temptation to return to Sharks. Longtime favourite Hessen club for me. But on this showing and the silly prices, the seesaw has swung back to Oase.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2710340]Final day of my FKK trip having done Sunshine, Aca Gold, Samya, Oase before yesterday.
Decided to have a mad afternoon / evening and hit Mainhattan first (see thread), then to Sharks before ending the night at Palace (see thread)!
Crazy I know! But hey, I'm a tourist and won't be back here for at least 3 months. Wanted to get a proper feel for Hessen after a great day and night at Oase.
Got to Mainhattan 6 pm. One room, some relax then off to Sharks in Uber. Didn't take that long. Into the club, mainly sausage fest. It was an incredibly hot day and the club indoors was really very hot. Too hot. Had some food (for once it was poor) at the BBQ. Lots of old familiar faces (Clara / Emma / Melanie (glasses) etc). Nearly tempted by the enormous talons of Ika who remembered me from a previous visit but I resisted. Ditto Eva, brunette with a lot of tattoos but very pretty. I knew I was only going to do one room before heading to see Jennifer at Palace. It became a toss up between blonde Miriam and Tamara (short blonde. Funny personality). I plumped for the latter. Good room (downstairs as upstairs was so hot). Good service, pretty girl and fun. Didn't have my usual massage. It was just too hot for that.
Recent reports of the LU being weak. They are true. It's nowhere near what it has been in the past, and as Sirioja correctly posts. It is really expensive for the quality being served up. I was offered one 50/30 by an overweight girl on the sofas by the pole "you won't get many girls offering you that in here" she said. I declined but she was right. Worse than that. It strikes me that when it is busy now (and it really was), the old 150/60 is getting harder to find. Miriam agreed to it but Tamara would not initially. She said "my price" is 200/ hour and I have one nice Turkish guy pays me 300/ hour". I had decided by then to room with her but this almost put me off. I told her "your choice baby. We go now for 150/60 or I wish you a good day and hope you get busy in the next hour". Rolling her eyes, she agreed to the price. I told her no upsells for BBBJ etc. But it really quite kills the mood for the financials to have to be so negotiated first.[/QUOTE]When I never noticed your Tamara or Vanila, when I get the prettiest anywhere I visit and can claim to be a beauties specialist, for 1 year with Megan at Sharks, only Catalea look worth 150/60 for me at Sharks, no other look, when Sharks lost some prettiest like Cena or T who were for 100/60 on 2021 . On 2022 , Sharks is not anymore best value for money in Germany where can find prettier girls for less expensive. Tourists business at Sharks on 2022 . I don t agree with You for Oase which is even lower level for looks seen on party yesterday.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2710340]Final day of my FKK trip having done Sunshine, Aca Gold, Samya, Oase before yesterday.
Decided to have a mad afternoon / evening and hit Mainhattan first (see thread), then to Sharks before ending the night at Palace (see thread)!
Crazy I know! But hey, I'm a tourist and won't be back here for at least 3 months. Wanted to get a proper feel for Hessen after a great day and night at Oase.
Got to Mainhattan 6 pm. One room, some relax then off to Sharks in Uber. Didn't take that long. Into the club, mainly sausage fest. It was an incredibly hot day and the club indoors was really very hot. Too hot. Had some food (for once it was poor) at the BBQ. Lots of old familiar faces (Clara / Emma / Melanie (glasses) etc). Nearly tempted by the enormous talons of Ika who remembered me from a previous visit but I resisted. Ditto Eva, brunette with a lot of tattoos but very pretty. I knew I was only going to do one room before heading to see Jennifer at Palace. It became a toss up between blonde Miriam and Tamara (short blonde. Funny personality). I plumped for the latter. Good room (downstairs as upstairs was so hot). Good service, pretty girl and fun. Didn't have my usual massage. It was just too hot for that.
Recent reports of the LU being weak. They are true. It's nowhere near what it has been in the past, and as Sirioja correctly posts. It is really expensive for the quality being served up. I was offered one 50/30 by an overweight girl on the sofas by the pole "you won't get many girls offering you that in here" she said. I declined but she was right. Worse than that. It strikes me that when it is busy now (and it really was), the old 150/60 is getting harder to find. Miriam agreed to it but Tamara would not initially. She said "my price" is 200/ hour and I have one nice Turkish guy pays me 300/ hour". I had decided by then to room with her but this almost put me off. I told her "your choice baby. We go now for 150/60 or I wish you a good day and hope you get busy in the next hour". Rolling her eyes, she agreed to the price. I told her no upsells for BBBJ etc. But it really quite kills the mood for the financials to have to be so negotiated first
[/QUOTE]Thanks for an excellent series of reports. I am in Germany next week but based on what you wrote about prices at Sharks I might just decide to take the train to Globe in Zurich instead. I might check out Oase again though. I was last in Sharks and Oase and Palace before the pandemic. I think 100/30 is ok but if it varies so much in price I might as well go to Globe where it's guaranteed 150/30 for DFK, BBBJ and FS. I've never been to Mainhattan but was a Palace regular for a decade. BTW, did you see any Colombian girls at Sharks? If Martha is still there I'll take a chance.
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Tamara, long time sharks WG, used to sit underneath the fish tank with Betty. Fake blonde and fake tits. Not very attractive either.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2710349]When I never noticed your Tamara or Vanila, when I get the prettiest anywhere I visit and can claim to be a beauties specialist, for 1 year with Megan at Sharks, only Catalea look worth 150/60 for me at Sharks, no other look, when Sharks lost some prettiest like Cena or T who were for 100/60 on 2021 . On 2022 , Sharks is not anymore best value for money in Germany where can find prettier girls for less expensive. Tourists business at Sharks on 2022 . I don t agree with You for Oase which is even lower level for looks seen on party yesterday.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2710450]Tamara, long time sharks WG, used to sit underneath the fish tank with Betty. Fake blonde and fake tits. Not very attractive either.[/QUOTE]I know Roxi is nice, but never found a wow girl under fish since 2014 I discovered Sharks, not best place for quality at Sharks. Vivien was my best there. I made allergy from plastic at Globe, so I try to avoid in Germany. Today I saw a face and body at Gold, I would target at Sharks or Globe, she seems nice, but I didn t go because of silicon I hate.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2710368]Thanks for an excellent series of reports. I am in Germany next week but based on what you wrote about prices at Sharks I might just decide to take the train to Globe in Zurich instead. I might check out Oase again though. I was last in Sharks and Oase and Palace before the pandemic. I think 100/30 is ok but if it varies so much in price I might as well go to Globe where it's guaranteed 150/30 for DFK, BBBJ and FS. I've never been to Mainhattan but was a Palace regular for a decade. BTW, did you see any Colombian girls at Sharks? If Martha is still there I'll take a chance.[/QUOTE]I got Marta at Sharks on beginning of the year, because no more business at Palace she said. I went for her elegance, far higher than other Sharks girls on this year, but as she is fast reactive, 100/ very full 30 were enough and no need to repeat, even more sensual than South Americans. But I prefer Romanians sensuality.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2710336]As far as I know Sharks, has had 150 girls in one day, and Artemis had close to that also a few times. But markets are changing. Both supply and demand, and German cities are not as big as Sao Paulo or Rio de Janeiro. A lot of Germans also prefer to not visit fkks in their own city. Only when they are in other cities in Germany, they chance it. In fear of meeting other people they know. Frankfurt might be the exception here, maybe due to the banking jobs and the culture impaired with those jobs. Other people are easier brainwashed into not visiting fkks. And the Turkish being the largest minority group also don't care much about seeing familiar faces. Plus they might not consider it their own city as much as a local German. So it is easier for them to make a visit.[/QUOTE]On 2017, I was told on some Fridays 200 girls and couldn't find only 1 attractive. Yesterday, around 60 girls for Summer white kind of Ibiza party at Oase and 0 room for me, compare to my Dietikon. Ch cutie on previous night or my Rhur outstanding German for 100/60. My virgin look Swiss is more expensive, but I prefer to pay more expensive for real beauties than Sharks or Oase rate for average looks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2710487]On 2017, I was told on some Fridays 200 girls and couldn't find only 1 attractive. Yesterday, around 60 girls for Summer white kind of Ibiza party at Oase and 0 room for me, compare to my Dietikon. Ch cutie on previous night or my Rhur outstanding German for 100/60. My virgin look Swiss is more expensive, but I prefer to pay more expensive for real beauties than Sharks or Oase rate for average looks.[/QUOTE]Well, if girls like Denisa and Soraya is still around, I could go with those just for how nice they are as well. Especially Denisa has a great attitude, and is socially smarter than most guys here the forum also. Maybe sometimes some of us guys here might not have the mojo in order to perform, but that is hardly the girls mistakes then. I doubt age has been too bad to those two girls also.
P.S. : The ones you mentionned I am totally clueless as to who is. So that's that.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2710349]When I never noticed your Tamara or Vanila, when I get the prettiest anywhere I visit and can claim to be a beauties specialist, for 1 year with Megan at Sharks, only Catalea look worth 150/60 for me at Sharks, no other look, when Sharks lost some prettiest like Cena or T who were for 100/60 on 2021 . On 2022 , Sharks is not anymore best value for money in Germany where can find prettier girls for less expensive. Tourists business at Sharks on 2022 . I don t agree with You for Oase which is even lower level for looks seen on party yesterday.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with SerpentX that Tamara isn't attractive. But that is the beauty of this sport. One man's beauty is another man's beast. I think she is pretty.
You never noticed Vanila. OMG - for me she has THE stand out body in Sharks. Very slim, dirty blonde hair, golden tan, short, slim body. When she walked out to the BBQ last night nearly every male head turned.
I think we all believe we are beauty specialists. But nobody can claim to be. Because, as above, we all see beauty in different ways. You commented on Erika at Oase. For me. Naturally very pretty, lovely eyes, great figure though the silicones are not good. But she was head and shoulders above anyone at Sharks other than Vanila whose prices are now a blocking point.
I only stayed in Sharks 1. 5 hours on Saturday. The options were not that great at all. And not for the prices. At Oase the options are (for me) better. Soraya with the blonde extensions looks better than ever. Several tall beauties. For me, no way that currently Oase is poorer than Sharks. On the contrary (for looks). But as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Sharks on a Wednesday in Summer
After an absence of 4.5 years visited the club for the first time on a Wednesday in the summer season. Checked in at around 2. 30 pm at which time the parking lot had been already full and the venue pretty crowded. Spotted a couple of swanky and ostentatiously tuned German brands with Romanian plates indicating pimp attendance; and indeed, they were clearly recognizable in the bar area.
Abundant line-up already in early afternoon, it was in my opinion quantity with apparently little quality. Mostly rough, apathetic, petrified low rate bitchy faces. The overwhelming majority was from Romania. But there were hardly any of Thracic-Latin descent, almost all belonged to the Gypsy minority which goes back to the lowest castes of India. So, administratively they are regarded as "Romanians", ethnically however, they are Gypsies. Having said that, I have to admit nice experiences and memories with Gypsy babes; but these were rare exceptions. There were very few other nations indentifiable. No charming Poles, cute Czechs or Slovakians, hot Hungarians, gorgeous Balts or seducing Latinas, not to mention Russians and Ukrainians among others, at all.
Had a drink, roamed the place; everything cool, everything smooth, everything sexy. I was wondering whether I'the find any hidden gem who could catch my fancy. Lots of tattoos, silicone and above all, vulgar behaviour. Found most of them quite repulsive. Approached the table with the electronic games of cards at the entrance where three girls played lost in time and space. One of them, dyed red hair with a fashionable cut, seemed interesting. Tried to strike up a conversation, but received just monosyllabic or no answer at all. No answer is also an answer, right? I said may be later" and moved away. She uttered something in Romanian and in an ironic tone which I could decipher due to the similarity to Italian or Spanish as may be after five hours". She walked later past me by chance and I could see her under bright light; pretty rough face, I haven't missed out on anything.
Several attempts to establish eye-contact with some prospective candidates failed badly: they instantly switched their gaze away; well, got the message. Smiled at probably the most gorgeous young woman on the premises: Isabela, Ro. Attractive face, leggy, a bit too skinny for my taste. She spoke no German, well, usual chat in English. Her menu options: 150/30 including BBBJ, DATY and covered encounter, or 200/30 with additional anal to the aforementioned delights. I countered with 150/30 including anal or at least 100/30 without. She wouldn't budge. Moved away.
Time was running, got somewhat distressed and slightly pissed off. Then, there she was: walking aroung the bar, tall, long silky black hair down to the ass, legs up to the throat, a stunning beauty. Followed her and pinched her elbow: Rosy, allegedly half-Ro, half-Gypsy from the Black Sea coast city of Constanta. Had a chat in decent English during which we closed the deal at 100/30. Off to the room. And what a room it was! Mirrors everywhere including the ceiling. Started off by massaging her neck and back kissing her throat.
Extensively. Pleasure moans came out of her and she was demanding more and more. I enjoyed it too. Finally turned over and laid on my back with her giving me a skilled sensual highly stimulating BBBJ with lots of slurping and tongue tickling. Thought of DATY or 69 about which we had been talking before but couldn't move and didn't want to spoil the moment. What a pity, as her fanny looked so gorgeous and juicy! She took her time. Cap on and she rode me for a while. Switched to pump her from behind. It felt mechanically like a gym exercise. I didn't feel that erotic tension any more, I don't know why. Switched back to the riding position with her on me licking and tickling my nipples. She moaned a few times shortly and I unloaded roaring animalisticly, my whole body fluttering for minutes. The session took surely way over 30', I guess at least 45'.
Had 1 HR of a fabulous massage in the spa provided by the Albanian lady Juliana. She really knows about her business. Got relieved of all the pains and tensions. Felt light like a feather afterwards and floated all over the place. Rate: 60/60. Tipped her well because she deserved every penny. Jacuzzi came next. Pleasant jets of water, not too weak, not too strong. Got approached by a skinny leggy blonde, forgot her name. She claimed to belong to the Saxon community of Transylvania. As of her appearance it might be true. Had a superficial chat during which I got a boner. Was on the brink to closing a deal with her but didn't want to walk around with that erection. She left after a while.
Dinner was served outside in the open air area comprising gas-fired BBQ (oh no, charcoal only, please! Meats were decent, salads however sweetish-vinegary (local taste) and exposed to the sun. Later on, they served some properly cooked halfway edible dishes in the restaurant area inside.
Beside the arch leading to the spa area spotted a cute babe in red stockings. Asked whether I could sit nex to her and then started to talk. This was Roxana, Ro, long hair, dyed blonde, saggy titties. She stated that she was independent and would charge the usual rates 50/30 and 100/60. That would mean that the other women aren't independent, right? So, the blatantly doubled rates nowadays in Sharks must be set arbitrarily by the pimps who provide and arrange the plentiful supply with hookers.
Left at 1.30am after 11hrs.
Bottom line:
Prices for entry and spa services remained stable. The going rates for room sessions are blatantly inflated by 100%, that is, 100/30 and 200/60; special treats come with a price tag of 50 for CIM and 100 for anal. Mostly Gypsies from Romania with some exceptions in between. Excellent spa services, nice jacuzzi, decent food buffet, posh set-up of the open air area. Would repeat.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2710595]I don't agree with SerpentX that Tamara isn't attractive. But that is the beauty of this sport. One man's beauty is another man's beast. I think she is pretty.
You never noticed Vanila. OMG - for me she has THE stand out body in Sharks. Very slim, dirty blonde hair, golden tan, short, slim body. When she walked out to the BBQ last night nearly every male head turned.
I think we all believe we are beauty specialists. But nobody can claim to be. Because, as above, we all see beauty in different ways. You commented on Erika at Oase. For me. Naturally very pretty, lovely eyes, great figure though the silicones are not good. But she was head and shoulders above anyone at Sharks other than Vanila whose prices are now a blocking point.
I only stayed in Sharks 1. 5 hours on Saturday. The options were not that great at all. And not for the prices. At Oase the options are (for me) better. Soraya with the blonde extensions looks better than ever. Several tall beauties. For me, no way that currently Oase is poorer than Sharks. On the contrary (for looks). But as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]Did you see Erika Eliza Globe bare feet in the garden? When I know her at Oase since 2019 before she moved with 3 other Oase girls to Globe on July 2020 under covid. She put silicon during Globe, like many. Not pretty face and silicon can't make a beauty for me. Even both low level for looks, but I would visit Sharks on a Saturday evening before returning to Oase. But I should not visit often both before IAA, even last were not wow for beauties.
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[QUOTE=Adimondo;2710613]After an absence of 4.5 years visited the club for the first time on a Wednesday in the summer season. Checked in at around 2. 30 pm at which time the parking lot had been already full and the venue pretty crowded. Spotted a couple of swanky and ostentatiously tuned German brands with Romanian plates indicating pimp attendance; and indeed, they were clearly recognizable in the bar area.
Abundant line-up already in early afternoon, it was in my opinion quantity with apparently little quality. Mostly rough, apathetic, petrified low rate bitchy faces. The overwhelming majority was from Romania. But there were hardly any of Thracic-Latin descent, almost all belonged to the Gypsy minority which goes back to the lowest castes of India. So, administratively they are regarded as "Romanians", ethnically however, they are Gypsies. Having said that, I have to admit nice experiences and memories with Gypsy babes; but these were rare exceptions. There were very few other nations indentifiable. No charming Poles, cute Czechs or Slovakians, hot Hungarians, gorgeous Balts or seducing Latinas, not to mention Russians and Ukrainians [/QUOTE]Your lineup description is spot on. It's been like this for years at Sharks to be honest, 90% of the line-up is made rough looking orcs. No diversity, very few attractive ladies. Volume is meaningless.
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[QUOTE=Jon75;2710775]Your lineup description is spot on. It's been like this for years at Sharks to be honest, 90% of the line-up is made rough looking orcs. No diversity, very few attractive ladies. Volume is meaningless.[/QUOTE]Is there a better club in the area? I'm coming to sharks in early July for the first time since 2019. Back then there were plenty of beauties. Hadn't planned on visiting other clubs but may have to try Oase again and maybe Mainhatten.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2710560]Well, if girls like Denisa and Soraya is still around, I could go with those just for how nice they are as well. Especially Denisa has a great attitude, and is socially smarter than most guys here the forum also. Maybe sometimes some of us guys here might not have the mojo in order to perform, but that is hardly the girls mistakes then. I doubt age has been too bad to those two girls also.
P.S. : The ones you mentionned I am totally clueless as to who is. So that's that.[/QUOTE]We know we don t have same taste for looks. I never noticed Denisa or Soraya at Oase, or Sharks. I won t rush to return to Oase or Sharks when I have better targets elsewhere and for less expensive. I wish You to enjoy your visit. I also don t plan to visit low looks and level Wellcum, even Lea. Bu was lovely, but not pretty enough to repeat, when I will be in Dolomiti for my sporty Summer tour. Zoncolan and Mortirolo will be for September, when I will have few kilometers in the french steepest and Stelvio both sides.
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[QUOTE=Lancelot53;2709984]......During sex she told me only straight in / out, no shaking (hitting the walls)......[/QUOTE]Damn, damn and triple damn!! What a horror story!
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[QUOTE=Adimondo;2710613]..... Her menu options: 150/30 including BBBJ, DATY and covered encounter, or 200/30 with additional anal to the aforementioned delights......[/QUOTE]Fuck that shit!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2710843]We know we don t have same taste for looks. I never noticed Denisa or Soraya at Oase, or Sharks. I won t rush to return to Oase or Sharks when I have better targets elsewhere and for less expensive. I wish You to enjoy your visit. I also don t plan to visit low looks and level Wellcum, even Lea. Bu was lovely, but not pretty enough to repeat, when I will be in Dolomiti for my sporty Summer tour. Zoncolan and Mortirolo will be for September, when I will have few kilometers in the french steepest and Stelvio both sides.[/QUOTE]I actually think I might recall Erika as well, but I never went with her. And she was a bit too thin back then several years ago.
But at Sharks, is Sidonia still around? How about that philippina girl?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2710870]Fuck that shit![/QUOTE]150/30 is Globe rate where now some ex Oase and Sharks girls and some returning from Globe like now silicon Erika Oase. In these 3 clubs, girls are less and less pretty for more and more expensive. Brother in Dietikon is better value for money than Globe in ZH. Some clubs are now better value for money than Sharks and Oase in Germany. In Gold, I saw again prettier looks on this Sunday. No more high level clubs, but still really good girls in FKK land and for 50 or 40/30.
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Regarding the so called gypsies: a lot of them are hot and good looking. And great in every way. And they aren't any worse looking than most other nationalities, even in Europe. But their culture / lifestyle might have taken FKKs for granted a bit. And as it is, or has been at least, there were more money to be made from apartments several places in Europe than what they could make at FKKs. So this was not the top of the food chain, and many of the best gypsies went elsewhere. Only certain girls who were the biggest fish in the pond has stayed at FKK's. Like one girl at Aca who could make 20 rooms in a day. But just 40 e per room. It adds up although every room only lasted 17 minutes. LOL. She was probably not gypsie, but Romanian. Still she had or has her own strategy of making money. The market is not there for everyone.
But it is unfortunate when a higher number of 5's ruin the atmosphere and all get their 2 rooms per day. Instead of a lower number of 8's or 9's where they all get 8 rooms per day.
Unfortunately I don't know if any manager at the moment want to, or actually care too much in order to slim down and improve their lineup average quality. But then again, us guys don't always agree on the girls either, and the clubs want their entry fee from as many girls as possible it seems also. So the pricing structure is against us in that regard too.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2710870]Fuck that shit![/QUOTE]Yes, I think the same! Even though I've been flexible with FKK girls regarding rates, this seems to be going out of control and I hope it is a temporary trend. 150/30 min or 300/ h is the rate of an high class escort.
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Tamara is like a Bowling Ball
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2710595]I don't agree with SerpentX that Tamara isn't attractive. But that is the beauty of this sport. One man's beauty is another man's beast. I think she is pretty.
You never noticed Vanila. OMG - for me she has THE stand out body in Sharks. Very slim, dirty blonde hair, golden tan, short, slim body. When she walked out to the BBQ last night nearly every male head turned.
I think we all believe we are beauty specialists. But nobody can claim to be. Because, as above, we all see beauty in different ways. You commented on Erika at Oase. For me. Naturally very pretty, lovely eyes, great figure though the silicones are not good. But she was head and shoulders above anyone at Sharks other than Vanila whose prices are now a blocking point.
I only stayed in Sharks 1. 5 hours on Saturday. The options were not that great at all. And not for the prices. At Oase the options are (for me) better. Soraya with the blonde extensions looks better than ever. Several tall beauties. For me, no way that currently Oase is poorer than Sharks. On the contrary (for looks). But as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]Going with Tamara (short 162 cm, long blond hair, fake boobs) is like going Bowling.
Every time she approach me I turn her away.
Finally after 3 years, I went with her to the room I said 50/30 she agreed.
Her service is no where close to Megan, Mandy (DE), Evita, Helen (176 cm, Romanian), so I threw her into the gutter like a bowling ball.
Next day she comes back to me.
I throw her into the gutter again.
Next hour she comes back to me again.
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Stop coming to Germany FKK Clubs. Thanks!
The problem is, that to many sex tourists come to Germany and destroying the prices. Please stop coming to Germany (especially Sharks) and maybe go to other countries. Maybe Thailand is good for you! I Sharks there are to much guys mongering around to get changed something. The girls and the management a stabbing the money at the moment.
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Ymmv
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2711269]Going with Tamara (short 162 cm, long blond hair, fake boobs) is like going Bowling.
Every time she approach me I turn her away.
Finally after 3 years, I went with her to the room I said 50/30 she agreed.
Her service is no where close to Megan, Mandy (DE), Evita, Helen (176 cm, Romanian), so I threw her into the gutter like a bowling ball.
Next day she comes back to me.
I throw her into the gutter again.
Next hour she comes back to me again.[/QUOTE]We have a very different views and approaches my friend.
If you resisted her that many times I am not sure why you eventually gave in. There is no shortage of girls to choose from. Maybe her service for 50/30 is poor or was for you. I had fun with her. She isn't a stunner at all but I liked her and she worked hard in the room.
I don't throw working girls into gutters. It's a tough job mentally and physically for them. If I don't like someone I politely decline.
When I know I am never going to a room with a girl (as I consider her not pretty or sexy enough) I will tell her that I appreciate that outside of the club she wouldn't have sex with 99% of the guys in the club, but inside it, the men choose their types and unfortunately she isn't mine but there will be lots of guys who like her. Yep. Big softie. If she persists I will be firmer "Baby. I explained why I've said no and I'm not going to change my mind. Have a great day / night but we won't be going to a room together". Maybe that's your equivalent of throwing a ball in the gutter! I understand your bowling ball meaning she keeps returning to you. But you are clearly not getting your message across that you've tried her, it wasn't for you and you won't be repeating.
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[QUOTE=Lancelot53;2710315]That is Rebecca 7.5 in optics. She been my best experience in Sharks so far. Great personality good skills and no rushing. She did gave me an unsolicited oil check and try to up sell it, but up selling is like the norm these days. She doesn't do anal though. Possible repeat for 30 min.
Today will be my last day in Germany and last Hoorahh at Sharks. I'm coming in full rattle battle ready for a fucking fight. I'm talking about flak vest on with no shirt. The wife was busting my balls too "Poor baby getting scam by hookers". I'll show her LOL.
I do have very high standards when it comes to performance. I will take the 6 over the 10 if I know she will performed as requested. But never take the 10 based on optics alone knowing that she is lame. TIP: "Trophy fucks" are unmemorable after the first one.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you do have high standards rating Rebecca as only a 7.5. She has a very pretty face and a banging body (in addition to her service). I wish she had fewer tattoos, but 7.5 sounds low to me -- one of the hottest girls at sharks in my eyes.
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2710254]It seem that my experience was the opposite. Wow, the girl are less attractive than Brazil and Tijuana. Last time I was in Shark was 2019, I thought that Shark are more attractive than both. Seem like thing have gone down hill or different taste.
Girl in FKK flirt consist of, Hi how are you, where are you from, do you want to go up. I was just in Rio a few months ago, the girl 10 time more flirty in Monte Carlo, 4 x4 and Solarium. It is expected. Only problem is they don't speak english and I use google translate to chat with them. It is normal to sit there for 30 min to an hours to chat with the girl. I found 2 girl that I really like, I offer to 1000 reais or 200 dollars to spend some longer time with me. From noon to 8 pm. Fuck, go out and eat at a restaurant and go back and fuck again. Only prob with these termas is they are too small. They pack 25 to 50 girl in such a small space, it is difficult to find a chair to sit and chill out. And out of those there is maybe three girls that are hot. That what I like about FKK, you can chill out or lie down on one of the lounge chair and take a nap.[/QUOTE]Based on what I have read, it's probably a combination of both that sharks has gone downhill and we have different taste. I thought the girls in Rio were exceptional, especially in 4 x4. I didn't go to Monte Carlo, but I was also impressed in Solarium. I think there are some duds in Tijuana, but the club is so big that there are easily 20 girls on any night that would be at the top of the food chain in sharks.
For the format, I totally agree. If there were FKKs with the quality of girls in the Brazilian termas, that would the best of all worlds for me. The small space is stressful (esp. When the girls don't speak english) and the FKK environment is perfect.
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Non Gypsies beauties once in Sharks
[QUOTE=Adimondo;2710613]....
The overwhelming majority was from Romania. ... almost all belonged to the Gypsy minority which goes back to the lowest castes of India. So, administratively they are regarded as "Romanians", ethnically however, they are Gypsies. Having said that, I have to admit nice experiences and memories with Gypsy babes;
......at.[/QUOTE]Gypsies dominated Sharks club (and FKK) since 2016. However, at Sharks top notch girls were NOT Gypsy before pandemic. Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Currently 80% or more girls in Sharks are Gypsies, or half Gypsies. Adriana, Tamara, Zynap, Roxy, Julia, teodora are top Gypsies girls in Sharks.
Same thing in Aca gold. Most WGs are Gypsies. However, Non Gypsies beauties are Natalie, Ellie, Dalida, Florentine, Caro, Sibel. While Gypsies girls including Hannah, Cleopatra, Jessica, Rulca, and more.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2711424] ... I don't throw working girls into gutters. It's a tough job mentally and physically for them. If I don't like someone I politely decline ... [/QUOTE]Thumbs up! It's good to see that there are some decent men in here, with basic respect for the working girls. Some of the guys in here seem a bit emphatically detached.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2711203]Regarding the so called gypsies: a lot of them are hot and good looking. And great in every way. And they aren't any worse looking than most other nationalities, even in Europe. But their culture / lifestyle might have taken FKKs for granted a bit. And as it is, or has been at least, there were more money to be made from apartments several places in Europe than what they could make at FKKs. So this was not the top of the food chain, and many of the best gypsies went elsewhere. Only certain girls who were the biggest fish in the pond has stayed at FKK's. Like one girl at Aca who could make 20 rooms in a day. But just 40 e per room. It adds up although every room only lasted 17 minutes. LOL. She was probably not gypsie, but Romanian. Still she had or has her own strategy of making money. The market is not there for everyone.
But it is unfortunate when a higher number of 5's ruin the atmosphere and all get their 2 rooms per day. Instead of a lower number of 8's or 9's where they all get 8 rooms per day.
Unfortunately I don't know if any manager at the moment want to, or actually care too much in order to slim down and improve their lineup average quality. But then again, us guys don't always agree on the girls either, and the clubs want their entry fee from as many girls as possible it seems also. So the pricing structure is against us in that regard too.[/QUOTE]About 10 yos ago I met a RO girl named Nieky in Samya. She mentioned she's gypsy and that's the only one I knew in fkks and I have to say she; s very hot for me.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2711492]Currently 80% or more girls in Sharks are Gypsies, or half Gypsies. Adriana, Tamara, Zynap, Roxy, Julia, teodora are top Gypsies girls in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Gutter Ball. Gutter Ball. Gutter Ball.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2710349]On 2022 , Sharks is not anymore best value for money in Germany where can find prettier girls for less expensive. Tourists business at Sharks on 2022 . I don t agree with You for Oase which is even lower level for looks seen on party yesterday.[/QUOTE]Sirioja and I have drawn the line in the sand, on the same page, in agreement, Joint Strike, NATO, EU, together on this statement.
I put on whole heart and faith in this statement.
Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Everything must come to an end.
Samya and Gold is the place to be in 2022.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;2711615]About 10 yos ago I met a RO girl named Nieky in Samya. She mentioned she's gypsy and that's the only one I knew in fkks and I have to say she; s very hot for me.[/QUOTE]Usually, girls don't shout to be gypsy, but even when they changed hair, you see the skin. Milky skin are not gypsy.
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[QUOTE=Yeahffm;2711400]The problem is, that to many sex tourists come to Germany and destroying the prices. Please stop coming to Germany (especially Sharks) and maybe go to other countries. Maybe Thailand is good for you! I Sharks there are to much guys mongering around to get changed something. The girls and the management a stabbing the money at the moment.[/QUOTE]But only Germans and Balkanians drinking more than fucking and only at night, would not give enough business to 80 girls. But I agree Sharks was higher level for less expensive on last year when less tourists.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2711659]Sirioja and I have drawn the line in the sand, on the same page, in agreement, Joint Strike, NATO, EU, together on this statement.
I put on whole heart and faith in this statement.
Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Everything must come to an end.
Samya and Gold is the place to be in 2022.[/QUOTE]Not all Sharks girls are gypsy, like Sabina, when legendary Kate was original gypsy type and was superstar in Hessen and at Globe. Gold have prettier looks for less expensive, but Samya have low level for looks on this year.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2711659]Sirioja and I have drawn the line in the sand, on the same page, in agreement, Joint Strike, NATO, EU, together on this statement.
I put on whole heart and faith in this statement.
Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Everything must come to an end.
Samya and Gold is the place to be in 2022.[/QUOTE]Haha great annoucement and list, thank you very much.
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[QUOTE=Yeahffm;2711400]The problem is, that to many sex tourists come to Germany and destroying the prices. Please stop coming to Germany (especially Sharks) and maybe go to other countries. Maybe Thailand is good for you! I Sharks there are to much guys mongering around to get changed something. The girls and the management a stabbing the money at the moment.[/QUOTE]You are looking at it from the wrong angle. You should petition the management to enforce the house price instead of blaming tourists. If they had the policy that any girl charge more with no extra service offered will be banned from the establishment, that'd solve the problem. Ain't that simple?
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I think most of them were already working on and off in sharks before Covid. Tbh, they are pretty much over their prime by now. The problem is that we are not seeing new beauties showing up in sharks. Not even with the new price structure.
[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2711659]Sirioja and I have drawn the line in the sand, on the same page, in agreement, Joint Strike, NATO, EU, together on this statement.
I put on whole heart and faith in this statement.
Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Everything must come to an end.
Samya and Gold is the place to be in 2022.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2711659]Sirioja and I have drawn the line in the sand, on the same page, in agreement, Joint Strike, NATO, EU, together on this statement.
I put on whole heart and faith in this statement.
Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Everything must come to an end.
Samya and Gold is the place to be in 2022.[/QUOTE]Someone told me Betty is still around. Sure she has left? Flavia was at Wellcum untill maybe 6 months ago. But left, and now I don't know. Mandy is truly missed. But I wonder if new pricing will attract that type of German girls in the future.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;2711615]About 10 yos ago I met a RO girl named Nieky in Samya. She mentioned she's gypsy and that's the only one I knew in fkks and I have to say she; s very hot for me.[/QUOTE]Then you haven't asked many, or you have been played. Ask yourself next time you hear manele music who is digging it the most.
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2711825]You are looking at it from the wrong angle. You should petition the management to enforce the house price instead of blaming tourists. If they had the policy that any girl charge more with no extra service offered will be banned from the establishment, that'd solve the problem. Ain't that simple?[/QUOTE]According to German law, girls are free workers, what did Bruggen was pimping girls according to law when Sharks respect, but we are also free to decide not to go. On 2021 , I had 2 girls weekly at Sharks, on 2022 only 3 rooms, when I go weekly with some girls elsewhere. Still really good girls in Germany and for less expensive than at Sharks on 2022 . In Hessen, Mainhattan and Palace maybe be less expensive. NRW is also best VFM.
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2711825]You are looking at it from the wrong angle. You should petition the management to enforce the house price instead of blaming tourists. If they had the policy that any girl charge more with no extra service offered will be banned from the establishment, that'd solve the problem. Ain't that simple?[/QUOTE]Exactly. The managers need to step up. We need to start letting management know how unhappy we are though so they know they need to do something about it.
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2711929]Exactly. The managers need to step up. We need to start letting management know how unhappy we are though so they know they need to do something about it.[/QUOTE]Go to complain on desk to see reaction. When nobody criticize more than me and Sharks or Globe staff know me, like many girls, as a bad writer, not a hidden ghost, on 2017 , Sharks manager told me if I don t like, I should go elsewhere, what I do when I don t find any Sharks girl on my standard, when the pickiest but I m not so demanding, I need only 1 beauty playing love in bed with me, I don't ask for more. Disappointing casting on 2022 and too expensive, but when I visit almost all FKK land except Artemis, Sharks made improvements like nowhere else since 2014. For my tip for some girls: Roxana is for 100/60 , Alina and Sabina are for 150/60 or 100/30 . Not gypsies.
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Walking
[QUOTE=PokePro;2711929]Exactly. The managers need to step up. We need to start letting management know how unhappy we are though so they know they need to do something about it.[/QUOTE]When it comes to business, the best way the customer makes his feelings known is with his feet. Walk away and take your business elsewhere! Unfortunately, when it comes to customer service, the mongering world has never been friendly to the customer, especially when it comes to girls working entirely on their own. And in the club setting, the management often doesn't give a damn, often siding with the girls who don't always deserve that support. Especially the ones who are only in it to make some quick money and don't give a shit about building any customer loyalty. Only when they (management) start feeling it directly on their bottom will the managers in these clubs be compelled to act. And even then, some are too thick to do what needs to be done, and will go down with their sinking ship. Next!
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First visit to Sharks on Weds on overnight stopover. Stayed at Moxy Darmstadt which was pretty decent. Used the FreeNow taxi app.
Arrived about 9 pm. Car park busy and club felt busy, presumably due to Wed discounts.
Guess there were about 50 girls. Didn't see anything above a 6-6. 5 by my standards. On basis if I had seen a 7 I would have been straight in there. But this is all relative.
Was looking for slim with tight butt but seemed elusive. Few slim ones past their sell by date and many others who could. At best. Be described as shapely.
Nevertheless will head back in 2 weeks for another visit, and maybe check out a couple of other clubs too.
Didn't negotiate hard but got a BBBJ with COF for 100/30 off a hefty blonde. Which was fine by me as thought she might crush me if climbed on top.
Spoke with one who had a clit piercing to tick that off the "to do" list but wasn't getting a good vibe.
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The Bottom Line
[QUOTE=TheCane;2711935]Only when they (management) start feeling it directly on their bottom will the managers in these clubs be compelled to act.[/QUOTE]I meant to say "on their bottom line", or in other words, when they feel financial pain that hurts their business.
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[QUOTE=Bkkharley;2711955]First visit to Sharks on Weds on overnight stopover. Stayed at Moxy Darmstadt which was pretty decent. Used the FreeNow taxi app.
Arrived about 9 pm. Car park busy and club felt busy, presumably due to Wed discounts.
Guess there were about 50 girls. Didn't see anything above a 6-6. 5 by my standards. On basis if I had seen a 7 I would have been straight in there. But this is all relative.
Was looking for slim with tight butt but seemed elusive. Few slim ones past their sell by date and many others who could. At best. Be described as shapely.
Nevertheless will head back in 2 weeks for another visit, and maybe check out a couple of other clubs too.
Didn't negotiate hard but got a BBBJ with COF for 100/30 off a hefty blonde. Which was fine by me as thought she might crush me if climbed on top.
Spoke with one who had a clit piercing to tick that off the "to do" list but wasn't getting a good vibe.[/QUOTE]For slim with small ass, Adriana or Brenda and others.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2711853]Then you haven't asked many, or you have been played. Ask yourself next time you hear manele music who is digging it the most.[/QUOTE]Most don't say they are.
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[QUOTE=Bkkharley;2711955]First visit to Sharks on Weds on overnight stopover. Stayed at Moxy Darmstadt which was pretty decent. Used the FreeNow taxi app.
Arrived about 9 pm. Car park busy and club felt busy, presumably due to Wed discounts.
Guess there were about 50 girls. Didn't see anything above a 6-6. 5 by my standards. On basis if I had seen a 7 I would have been straight in there. But this is all relative.[/QUOTE]That's super disappointing. How hard is it to get to Oase or other clubs like Aca or Samya from Frankfurt?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2711851]Someone told me Betty is still around. Sure she has left? Flavia was at Wellcum untill maybe 6 months ago. But left, and now I don't know. Mandy is truly missed. But I wonder if new pricing will attract that type of German girls in the future.[/QUOTE]I was at Shark in the end of April and I still saw Betty occasionally.
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Sharks to Oase
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2712119]That's super disappointing. How hard is it to get to Oase or other clubs like Aca or Samya from Frankfurt?[/QUOTE]Sharks to Oase is pretty easy by train, you will need to change at Frankfurt hbf. Train journey time is around 1 HR 15 min, if you time it well you can be in Oase less than two hours after stepping out of Sharks. Travel to Aca or Samya will take a lot longer. 2 HR +.
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Line up
Can someone report on the current Line-up please? Any nationalities present other than Romanian? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Jon75;2712279]Can someone report on the current Line-up please? Any nationalities present other than Romanian? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is around 5 Germans, 1 Iranian (Shiva), 1 Italian (Sylvana of course), 3/4 black women (I know only Audrey who is from Ghana), 1/2 Bulgarians, 1/2 Hungarians and all the rest is from Romania (with some "Moldavians" that are in fact all Romanians).
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[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2712291]There is around 5 Germans, 1 Iranian (Shiva), 1 Italian (Sylvana of course), 3/4 black women (I know only Audrey who is from Ghana), 1/2 Bulgarians, 1/2 Hungarians and all the rest is from Romania (with some "Moldavians" that are in fact all Romanians).[/QUOTE]Was great and really missing Cena who was for 100/60 on last Summer, Romanian?
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2711492] Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.[/QUOTE]Good summary.
I could add a few more to the list.
Scarlett (2015), one of most beautiful GND type girls. She was pharmacy student when she worked at Sharks until early 2016.
Anja, Albanian beauty, I saw her most time during 2016-2017.
Tessa (De), with 'love laugh life' tattoos on her left ankle, was one of prettiest German girl, worked at Sharks before 2018. Disappeared now.
Viorica, my "princess girl" 2018, might still work at Sharks. I didn't see her during this April visit.
Xenia, cute GND, very nice and friendly, my "dream girl" 2018. No one saw her since pandemic.
Mihaela, cute GND, one of my most favorite in 2018. Someone told me she might work at Switzerland before pandemic. No one saw her anymore.
Alma (Anka), cute GND. She held me and kept kissing my neck before I left Sharks in December 2019. I never saw her again.
Candy, young cutie, she might be at Sharks on and off.
Tessa (new) half turkey half Romania. Could be my Last "sweetheart girl" before pandemic era. She was in Sharks 2019-2020 before pandemic shutdown. She is much prettier than Julia. If she were in Sharks, I would only spend time with her without taking Julia.
I agree that golden era of FKKs might end. Not just the price issues, but also the shortage of source of new beautiful girls.
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[QUOTE=Abox79;2712273]Sharks to Oase is pretty easy by train, you will need to change at Frankfurt hbf. Train journey time is around 1 HR 15 min, if you time it well you can be in Oase less than two hours after stepping out of Sharks. Travel to Aca or Samya will take a lot longer. 2 HR +.[/QUOTE]What would be the best place to get a hotel to visit all of them?
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Probably just stay near Frankfurt Hbf to hit the greater Frankfurt area clubs, that way you don't have to switch trains for any of your journeys. For the NRW clubs, you should probably get a new hotel closer to those clubs as they're a long way away.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2712361]Was great and really missing Cena who was for 100/60 on last Summer, Romanian?[/QUOTE]She presented herself as Moldavian, so Romanian probably. It's been a long time since I have seen her.
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[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2712552]She presented herself as Moldavian, so Romanian probably. It's been a long time since I have seen her.[/QUOTE]Republic of Moldavia like Ukraine or Russia should not get registration to work. Maybe soon for 2 first when they are welcome by EU when they will stop corruption in Ukraine, even also still in Romania and Bulgaria. Beautiful eyes, full natural and so GFE non stop really kissing for 100/60 Cena and same for her friend were quality at Sharks on 2021 . Unfortunately none returned on 2022 , when both were higher level for love in bed than elected Miss Sharks who won because of her impressive model type. Sharks really miss on 2022 girls on Cena and friend level.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2712488]Good summary.
I agree that golden era of FKKs might end. Not just the price issues, but also the shortage of source of new beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]I do understand the price issue, but why the shortage?
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Easy
[QUOTE=Faceless78;2712684]I do understand the price issue, but why the shortage?[/QUOTE]What's not to understand? Girls went home during the height of the pandemic and have not returned in sufficient numbers to staff the clubs. That's why I just shake my head at reports now from guys writing clubs off for good because the lineup was no good. That's incredibly shortsighted and not aligned with reality. The clubs (and most everywhere else) were negatively impacted for two years! And they haven't had enough time to recover yet. People (girls and mongers) want to make sure we're tracking a full return to normal. I think it won't be until 2023 before there's a real chance of getting back to normal. But then again, there's a real chance the world might fall into a recession by then too! So even if the fresh, young tutes are ready to return by 2023, will the mongers be? Time will tell.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2712488]Good summary.
I could add a few more to the list.
Scarlett (2015), one of most beautiful GND type girls. She was pharmacy student when she worked at Sharks until early 2016.
Anja, Albanian beauty, I saw her most time during 2016-2017.
Tessa (De), with 'love laugh life' tattoos on her left ankle, was one of prettiest German girl, worked at Sharks before 2018. Disappeared now.
Viorica, my "princess girl" 2018, might still work at Sharks. I didn't see her during this April visit.
Xenia, cute GND, very nice and friendly, my "dream girl" 2018. No one saw her since pandemic.
Mihaela, cute GND, one of my most favorite in 2018. Someone told me she might work at Switzerland before pandemic. No one saw her anymore.
Alma (Anka), cute GND. She held me and kept kissing my neck before I left Sharks in December 2019. I never saw her again.
Candy, young cutie, she might be at Sharks on and off.
Tessa (new) half turkey half Romania. Could be my Last "sweetheart girl" before pandemic era. She was in Sharks 2019-2020 before pandemic shutdown. She is much prettier than Julia. If she were in Sharks, I would only spend time with her without taking Julia.
I agree that golden era of FKKs might end. Not just the price issues, but also the shortage of source of new beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]How about Nicolette and Melody? 🤔.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2712714]How about Nicolette and Melody?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The two are in the HappyTour list already. See below list.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2711492]Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. ....... [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2712760]The two are in the HappyTour list already. See below list.[/QUOTE]Please elaborate both Nicolette and Melody 😏.
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A question please. Does anybody know for certain whether the 9 euro ticket is valid on VIA or HLB trains? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2712488]Good summary.
I could add a few more to the list.
Scarlett (2015), one of most beautiful GND type girls. She was pharmacy student when she worked at Sharks until early 2016.
Anja, Albanian beauty, I saw her most time during 2016-2017.
Tessa (De), with 'love laugh life' tattoos on her left ankle, was one of prettiest German girl, worked at Sharks before 2018. Disappeared now.
Viorica, my "princess girl" 2018, might still work at Sharks. I didn't see her during this April visit.
Xenia, cute GND, very nice and friendly, my "dream girl" 2018. No one saw her since pandemic.
Mihaela, cute GND, one of my most favorite in 2018. Someone told me she might work at Switzerland before pandemic. No one saw her anymore.
Alma (Anka), cute GND. She held me and kept kissing my neck before I left Sharks in December 2019. I never saw her again.
Candy, young cutie, she might be at Sharks on and off.
Tessa (new) half turkey half Romania. Could be my Last "sweetheart girl" before pandemic era. She was in Sharks 2019-2020 before pandemic shutdown. She is much prettier than Julia. If she were in Sharks, I would only spend time with her without taking Julia.
I agree that golden era of FKKs might end. Not just the price issues, but also the shortage of source of new beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]Viorica is still at Sharks. A half German half Afro US Tessa, really elegant, was at Sharks on July 2021 but unfortunately not kissing.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2712813]Please elaborate both Nicolette and Melody 😏.[/QUOTE]Melody was the shortest girl I had come across in Sharks. Pretty, very cute and cuddly. High GFE. Impossible to get hold of when Uncle Ox was present. But in my last session with her in end 2019, she said that she was leaving this job to get into the beauty business.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2712952]A question please. Does anybody know for certain whether the 9 euro ticket is valid on VIA or HLB trains? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go to [URL]https://www.bahn.com/en[/URL] and select the local Local transport only checkbox and make sure the Fastest Connections checkbox is unchecked, then run a timetable search. The search will only return those services covered by the 9 Euro ticket.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2712813]Please elaborate both Nicolette and Melody.[/QUOTE]I assume that They both live in normal life in their hometown now. I never physically saw them since December 2019.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2712713]What's not to understand? Girls went home during the height of the pandemic and have not returned in sufficient numbers to staff the clubs. That's why I just shake my head at reports now from guys writing clubs off for good because the lineup was no good. That's incredibly shortsighted and not aligned with reality. The clubs (and most everywhere else) were negatively impacted for two years! And they haven't had enough time to recover yet. People (girls and mongers) want to make sure we're tracking a full return to normal. I think it won't be until 2023 before there's a real chance of getting back to normal. But then again, there's a real chance the world might fall into a recession by then too! So even if the fresh, young tutes are ready to return by 2023, will the mongers be? Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insights. I was thinking about the longterm change I. E. Changes in law practice. For the girls, I believe there will always be more girls (like what happening in Thailand now), even the rescession may push more of them into this business (sad to say so though).
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2712488]Good summary.
I could add a few more to the list.
Scarlett (2015), one of most beautiful GND type girls. She was pharmacy student when she worked at Sharks until early 2016.
Anja, Albanian beauty, I saw her most time during 2016-2017.
Tessa (De), with 'love laugh life' tattoos on her left ankle, was one of prettiest German girl, worked at Sharks before 2018. Disappeared now.
Viorica, my "princess girl" 2018, might still work at Sharks. I didn't see her during this April visit.
Xenia, cute GND, very nice and friendly, my "dream girl" 2018. No one saw her since pandemic.
Mihaela, cute GND, one of my most favorite in 2018. Someone told me she might work at Switzerland before pandemic. No one saw her anymore.
Alma (Anka), cute GND. She held me and kept kissing my neck before I left Sharks in December 2019. I never saw her again.
Candy, young cutie, she might be at Sharks on and off.
Tessa (new) half turkey half Romania. Could be my Last "sweetheart girl" before pandemic era. She was in Sharks 2019-2020 before pandemic shutdown. She is much prettier than Julia. If she were in Sharks, I would only spend time with her without taking Julia.
I agree that golden era of FKKs might end. Not just the price issues, but also the shortage of source of new beautiful girls.[/QUOTE]Still very high level girls, my wow Rhur German french kissing all along, DT so I pushed on her throat, our game giving me shower, but not golden shower, and I improved for the game, 150/90 on last night, shorter than our last 2 hours rooms, fucking harder she said. And not the only good one, far from tourists fuckers.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2712713]What's not to understand? Girls went home during the height of the pandemic and have not returned in sufficient numbers to staff the clubs. That's why I just shake my head at reports now from guys writing clubs off for good because the lineup was no good. That's incredibly shortsighted and not aligned with reality. The clubs (and most everywhere else) were negatively impacted for two years! And they haven't had enough time to recover yet. People (girls and mongers) want to make sure we're tracking a full return to normal. I think it won't be until 2023 before there's a real chance of getting back to normal. But then again, there's a real chance the world might fall into a recession by then too! So even if the fresh, young tutes are ready to return by 2023, will the mongers be? Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Well, I can tell you for 100% certainly that Wellcum is back to 100% where it was pre plandemic. Maybe because it doesn't have to rely on fly in mongers, but drivers from Italy. I don't know, but it was completely unchanged from 2 or 3 years ago with the same number of new faces as always. But that is Austria and not Germany. And Austria has a lot less local competition. Maybe Germany just needs a few clubs to shut down as well. In NRW and Hessen in particular.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2712993]Go to [URL]https://www.bahn.com/en[/URL] and select the local Local transport only checkbox and make sure the Fastest Connections checkbox is unchecked, then run a timetable search. The search will only return those services covered by the 9 Euro ticket.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I have checked. Valid for VIA Frankfurt to Darmstadt. And also for HLB to get to World (Giessen to Garbenteich).
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;2713024]Thanks for your insights. I was thinking about the longterm change I. E. Changes in law practice. For the girls, I believe there will always be more girls (like what happening in Thailand now), even the rescession may push more of them into this business (sad to say so though).[/QUOTE]The recession will also keep people at home instead of traveling. It won't be good for the clubs but it is what is. It'll probably be beyond 2024 until things recover.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2713212]The recession will also keep people at home instead of traveling. It won't be good for the clubs but it is what is. It'll probably be beyond 2024 until things recover.[/QUOTE]Depends on when the great reset will kick in either later this year, or as late as 2025, and how the supposed new personal CO2 quota will affect incoming mongers through the air into Germany. Or if business travel will be exempted.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2713212]The recession will also keep people at home instead of traveling. It won't be good for the clubs but it is what is. It'll probably be beyond 2024 until things recover.[/QUOTE]So the important thing for us is to keep making money insteading of bankcrupcy.
Survive the recession!
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2713158]Well, I can tell you for 100% certainly that Wellcum is back to 100% where it was pre plandemic. Maybe because it doesn't have to rely on fly in mongers, but drivers from Italy. I don't know, but it was completely unchanged from 2 or 3 years ago with the same number of new faces as always. But that is Austria and not Germany. And Austria has a lot less local competition. Maybe Germany just needs a few clubs to shut down as well. In NRW and Hessen in particular.[/QUOTE]But Wellcum is almost the only big club now, without Marina Slovenja, for east Italians, when few Milanese will drive through Gottard to SZ or ZH. But on many times, Andiamo was more interesting for me when I prefer quality than quantity.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2713212]The recession will also keep people at home instead of traveling. It won't be good for the clubs but it is what is. It'll probably be beyond 2024 until things recover.[/QUOTE]Just curious if the recession will make those elite Shark girls back to business again? 🤔 Like Melody and Nicolette who UncleOx favorite. Hopefully UncleOx won't occupy those girls again if the do come back to work. 🙏.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2713395]Just curious if the recession will make those elite Shark girls back to business again? Like Melody and Nicolette who UncleOx favorite. Hopefully UncleOx won't occupy those girls again if the do come back to work.[/QUOTE]Which recession, when increasing rates at Sharks on 2022 and many guys keeping on paying more and more expensive for less and less pretty girls at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2713395]Just curious if the recession will make those elite Shark girls back to business again? 🤔 Like Melody and Nicolette who UncleOx favorite. Hopefully UncleOx won't occupy those girls again if the do come back to work. 🙏.[/QUOTE]As a repeated practice, more and better girls selling themselves in the bad time. Just make sure you have enough bullet in the pocket.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2712952]A question please. Does anybody know for certain whether the 9 euro ticket is valid on VIA or HLB trains? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Considering that when you visit the HLB website it has an article about using the 9 euro ticket then I'the say yes it's valid. I don't know what the VIA train network is but in general the 9 euro ticket works for all bus, tram, you bahn (underground), s bahn and re / rb trains. It does not work on the ICE, IC and EC trains as well as private network trains. Worked for me great when I was in Frankfurt for catching the trains, trams and buses to get to Mainhattan and sharks.
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Basic Service
Is EUR50 for 30 minutes for basic service with covered BJ still offered in Sharks?
I know that pretty much all the girls in Palace offer this.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2711492]Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now?[/QUOTE]As a friendly reminder Dina is coming back July 19 - 24.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2714744]As a friendly reminder Dina is coming back July 19 - 24.[/QUOTE]Sorry it's actually 20-23.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2714829]Sorry it's actually 20-23.[/QUOTE]She wants to compete with Sylvana who is slimmer.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2713344]But Wellcum is almost the only big club now, without Marina Slovenja, for east Italians, when few Milanese will drive through Gottard to SZ or ZH. But on many times, Andiamo was more interesting for me when I prefer quality than quantity.[/QUOTE]People go to Wellcum from all over Italy. I've met people there from Florence, Rome, Bari, Catania etc etc.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2711492]Gypsies dominated Sharks club (and FKK) since 2016. However, at Sharks top notch girls were NOT Gypsy before pandemic. Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, and more, etc. None of them are Gypsies. Where are these beauties now? Most are not in FKK field anymore.
Currently 80% or more girls in Sharks are Gypsies, or half Gypsies. Adriana, Tamara, Zynap, Roxy, Julia, teodora are top Gypsies girls in Sharks.
Same thing in Aca gold. Most WGs are Gypsies. However, Non Gypsies beauties are Natalie, Ellie, Dalida, Florentine, Caro, Sibel. While Gypsies girls including Hannah, Cleopatra, Jessica, Rulca, and more.[/QUOTE]This is the first time I've seen Jazz mentioned on ISG. She gives excellent service. Generally I'm not a repeater but have been with her a few times.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2715025]People go to Wellcum from all over Italy. I've met people there from Florence, Rome, Bari, Catania etc etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, Wellcum work with Italians business and low level on Italians level, for girls. I remember a very attractive and really interesting when we took breakfast, Italian, but disappointing frustrating in room, telling me: but Italians don't kiss.
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Jazz was mentioned a few times by a famous Japanese guy here 3-4 years ago. Her service was indeed excellent and she was very attractive, minus tits. She makes you feel comfortable and can carry a conversation. Maybe because she was living in London most of the time and did not work full time in sharks.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2715045]This is the first time I've seen Jazz mentioned on ISG. She gives excellent service. Generally I'm not a repeater but have been with her a few times.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2714899]She wants to compete with Sylvana who is slimmer.[/QUOTE]She is out of men to fuck at home. She miss the rapid sex, sucking and fucking multiple men in one day, and being their fantasy. At least that is what she told me. She is a horny one.
In terms of slim or not, she is currently very physically fit now, in my opinion maybe in her best shape since her Sharks days. She even have abs now, and I don't ever recall her having visible abs. From pictures and videos she showed me, she is easily top talent at this current Sharks. Easily an 8. Might even be a 9 considering how many wild monsters I saw last time asking for 150 E for 30 min. She'll be a stunner for sure.
But I haven't fucked her since the end of 2017 so I have no idea what her service level is right now, but many of us will find out soon enough. I just get a random call from her every year or two and she reads the forum from time to time and is happy she is on the elite list LOL.
Prepare your wallets and give her a good fuck. I know I will.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2715109]Jazz was mentioned a few times by a famous Japanese guy here 3-4 years ago. Her service was indeed excellent and she was very attractive, minus tits. She makes you feel comfortable and can carry a conversation. Maybe because she was living in London most of the time and did not work full time in sharks.[/QUOTE]Out of that list in my opinion the best service girls were Mandy, Amilia, and Betty.
Dina and Sandra was more of my taste in terms of looks and body. But no one has ever made my cum as hard or as many times in a day as Mandy. It's not even close LOL.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2715045]This is the first time I've seen Jazz mentioned on ISG. She gives excellent service. Generally I'm not a repeater but have been with her a few times.[/QUOTE]Julia is Gypsy?? UncleOx favorite girl from his recent trip? 🤔.
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Jazz, my love
Jazz, my love.
[QUOTE=SerpentX;2715109]Jazz was mentioned a few times by a famous Japanese guy here 3-4 years ago....[/QUOTE]Yes, that was me.
Tue Nov 06,2018.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246047]
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2) Jazz: 1400-1500,100 E, Moldovan sitting next to Ivy in front of the staircase, 163 cm, long blonde, pretty, B-cup, 1 month at Sharks. In a room 8 min caressing, 15 min DATY with her big O, 15 min missionary with her three O's and 5 min BJ were what we enjoyed. Must repeat.
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[/QUOTE]Wed Nov 07,2018.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246050]
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2) Jazz: 1430-1530,100 E, the second session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 8 min caressing, 2 min DATY, 5 min missionary with her O, 12 min DATY with her big O, 8 min missionary with her O, 10 min pillow talk and 5 min BJ. Must repeat.
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[/QUOTE]Thu Nov 08,2018.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246222]
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3) Jazz & Amily: 1405-1455,100 E*2, the third time with Jazz in this FKK tour and Amily is Jazz's mentor. In a room, Jazz BJ'ed me while I licked Amily's pussy with her two O's, Amily BJ'ed me while I licked Jazz's pussy with her O, I fucked Amily in cowgirl and missionary position, then fucked Jazz, A's second BJ and J's second BJ without targeted CIM. Not repeat, but repeat separately.
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[/QUOTE]Sat Nov 09,2019.
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4) Jazz 1930-2045,150 E & 50 E for erotic massage from her, the first time in the past one year. She changed so much, from long brunette to short blonde, that I was not able to recognize her first, but in the room her reaction was same as before, 20 min DATY with her O, her 7 min erotic massage, which should be improved more with Ivy's instruction, 8 min BJ, 3 min cow-girl, 7 min missionary with her O, my 30 min massage on her. Must repeat.
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[/QUOTE]Hope you have a good time with her too!
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2714744]As a friendly reminder Dina is coming back July 19 - 24.[/QUOTE]Wow, the legendary "queen of Sharks" will come back? I haven't seen her for years.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2715222]Julia is Gypsy?? UncleOx favorite girl from his recent trip? .[/QUOTE]All Romanians are not gypsy.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2715138]
In terms of slim or not, she is currently very physically fit now, in my opinion maybe in her best shape since her Sharks days. She even have abs now, and I don't ever recall her having visible abs. From pictures and videos she showed me, she is easily top talent at this current Sharks. Easily an 8. Might even be a 9 considering how many wild monsters I saw last time asking for 150 E for 30 min. She'll be a stunner for sure.
[/QUOTE]Tina and I exchanged phone number 2000 days ago but I never contacted her (supposed she changed number, so did I).
I am very shocked that there is still NOT white knight to rescue Dina after six years. Considering her coming back, I assume that she might still live in the old shabby flat in District XVI, and worked in a beauty shop as she claimed as a psychologist?
Unfortunately I will not be in Sharks during July. Summer is too hot. Fall or winter I will be back. Meanwhile I will try to persuade Natalia and Caro of Gold Aca to try out Sharks. Natalia is the most beautiful and young white Romanian in current AG lineup. She reminds me of Megan the famous beauty of Sharks. Caro is a Romanian version of Mandy. They both will be in Elite list of Sharks.
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Sharks on Friday
My first visit to Sharks since Covid struck. It was not very full for a Friday. Wet and cool day, so most guests stayed indoors. Rooms upstairs were easily available.
I think more than 1/2 the girls were new compared to Nov 2019. But most of the new ones were not very attractive to me. Silicones everywhere and heavily botoxed lips. Much higher proportion of gypsy Ranians tjan before.
And everyone who approached me pre-emptively said 100 for 30 which totally puts me off further consideration.
Found a few old regulars and tried a pretty new girl called Dasha who was not aggressive, unlike the other new ones.
Saw the post from Aznhotboy about Dina's impending visit. So sad that I would have left by then.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2715308]My first visit to Sharks since Covid struck. It was not very full for a Friday. Wet and cool day, so most guests stayed indoors. Rooms upstairs were easily available.
I think more than 1/2 the girls were new compared to Nov 2019. But most of the new ones were not very attractive to me. Silicones everywhere and heavily botoxed lips. Much higher proportion of gypsy Ranians tjan before.
And everyone who approached me pre-emptively said 100 for 30 which totally puts me off further consideration.
Found a few old regulars and tried a pretty new girl called Dasha who was not aggressive unlike the other new ones.
Saw the post from Aznhotboy about Dina's impending visit. So sad that I would have left by then.[/QUOTE]Dasha who loves women? Ex 6 . Not elegant enough to repeat, but at least full natural and lovely. This job must be really difficult for her, but was interesting for me to compete with women skill.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2715265]Tina and I exchanged phone number 2000 days ago but I never contacted her (supposed she changed number, so did I).
I am very shocked that there is still NOT white knight to rescue Dina after six years. Considering her coming back, I assume that she might still live in the old shabby flat in District XVI, and worked in a beauty shop as she claimed as a psychologist?
Unfortunately I will not be in Sharks during July. Summer is too hot. Fall or winter I will be back. Meanwhile I will try to persuade Natalia and Caro of Gold Aca to try out Sharks. Natalia is the most beautiful and young white Romanian in current AG lineup. She reminds me of Megan the famous beauty of Sharks. Caro is a Romanian version of Mandy. They both will be in Elite list of Sharks.[/QUOTE]Natalia is not so pretty face than Megan and really not good in bed. Caro is average face but could have success at Sharks. After pimping Nicolette, what is this bullshit, psychologist in a beauty shop? For women who can t become pretty? For Dina. Does she still have her dog?
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2715255]Wow, the legendary "queen of Sharks" will come back? I haven't seen her for years.[/QUOTE]Yep the Queen is coming back for a very short period.
Sounds like she is still very popular here but I'm not going to talk about her personal life here. She'll be at the club and she might answer your questions there.
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Why are you trying to get them to sharks? Instead of paying 40-50/30 min you want to pay 100/30 min? Also, Typically the longer a girl stays in sharks the less service she provides. It's just a toxic environment. You should persuade more girls to work in ACA instead.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2715265]Tina and I exchanged phone number 2000 days ago but I never contacted her (supposed she changed number, so did I).
I am very shocked that there is still NOT white knight to rescue Dina after six years. Considering her coming back, I assume that she might still live in the old shabby flat in District XVI, and worked in a beauty shop as she claimed as a psychologist?
Unfortunately I will not be in Sharks during July. Summer is too hot. Fall or winter I will be back. Meanwhile I will try to persuade Natalia and Caro of Gold Aca to try out Sharks. Natalia is the most beautiful and young white Romanian in current AG lineup. She reminds me of Megan the famous beauty of Sharks. Caro is a Romanian version of Mandy. They both will be in Elite list of Sharks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2715667]Why are you trying to get them to sharks? Instead of paying 40-50/30 min you want to pay 100/30 min? Also, Typically the longer a girl stays in sharks the less service she provides. It's just a toxic environment. You should persuade more girls to work in ACA instead.[/QUOTE]Caro has her good business with many regulars since years at Gold. Natalia would be for sure one of prettiest and even at Globe, but she sit without business most often, even fast Turkish don t go. If she and Eli were good in bed, I would fuck them weekly all along the year, but not worthing 40 even really pretty. For look, I would run to them at Globe, but I don t repeat with them for 40 at Gold. But higher looks at Gold than Sharks on 2022 .
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2715138]She is out of men to fuck at home. She miss the rapid sex, sucking and fucking multiple men in one day, and being their fantasy. At least that is what she told me. She is a horny one.
In terms of slim or not, she is currently very physically fit now, in my opinion maybe in her best shape since her Sharks days. She even have abs now, and I don't ever recall her having visible abs. From pictures and videos she showed me, she is easily top talent at this current Sharks. Easily an 8. Might even be a 9 considering how many wild monsters I saw last time asking for 150 E for 30 min. She'll be a stunner for sure.
But I haven't fucked her since the end of 2017 so I have no idea what her service level is right now, but many of us will find out soon enough. I just get a random call from her every year or two and she reads the forum from time to time and is happy she is on the elite list LOL.
Prepare your wallets and give her a good fuck. I know I will.[/QUOTE]She didn't impress me in bed, I think on 2015 . Much too professional, she wants to control. I much preferred much more fresh Mersi. Hu even we could only communicate with eyes, smiles and hands, then no bullshits. I won t drive for her, I agree prettier face than on 2022 looks but I would like to see how is her ass, when she gained while Sharks. Sad for her if she doesn't find a BF able to take care of her at home, rather than competing with Sylvana.
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I went to sharks on Saturday and everything that everyone has said is relatively true. There were about 100 girls the pool was open it was pretty busy and for the most part everyone looked pretty good. No one unattractive. I was with a few girls but it was OK for the most part but nothing amazing. I'm into a more GFE experience with kissing and that was mediocre. Personally, I found the girls in Thailand way more romantic.
Still worth the trip. I'm surprised how many people smoke and I though the food was okay but still edible. For regulars, do you negotiate before entering the room? The upsells are crazy.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2715862]She didn't impress me in bed, I think on 2015 . Much too professional, she wants to control. I much preferred much more fresh Mersi. Hu even we could only communicate with eyes, smiles and hands, then no bullshits. I won t drive for her, I agree prettier face than on 2022 looks but I would like to see how is her ass, when she gained while Sharks. Sad for her if she doesn't find a BF able to take care of her at home, rather than competing with Sylvana.[/QUOTE]For me personally Dina was always just OK, at least that's what I remember from 2017. But one of my friends that fucked her said it was the best sex he's ever had, and this guy actually travels around the world for mongering (ME, Asia, SA, EU). Maybe my friend got something from her that I never got? So who knows? I think it's a hit or miss with her. She definitely has her fans at Sharks so it's very much YMMV.
Like Juliet RO from GoldenTime DE. I read many people give ok to bad reviews on here, but she always gave me amazing service and never any attitude. Even after one time I ditched her when she went to get the key and I went to fuck some new girl and forgot about her LOL. I'd always leave her mouth full and my balls emptied.
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If you like kissing try Spain. All the girls I saw last week in Barcelona provided DFK without asking.
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2715923]I went to sharks on Saturday and everything that everyone has said is relatively true. There were about 100 girls the pool was open it was pretty busy and for the most part everyone looked pretty good. No one unattractive. I was with a few girls but it was OK for the most part but nothing amazing. I'm into a more GFE experience with kissing and that was mediocre. Personally, I found the girls in Thailand way more romantic.
Still worth the trip. I'm surprised how many people smoke and I though the food was okay but still edible. For regulars, do you negotiate before entering the room? The upsells are crazy.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2715964]If you like kissing try Spain. All the girls I saw last week in Barcelona provided DFK without asking.[/QUOTE]What's the scene like there? Clubs? Brothels?
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Brothels and escorts. See Bcn thread in ISG.
[QUOTE=PokePro;2715978]What's the scene like there? Clubs? Brothels?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2715937]For me personally Dina was always just OK, at least that's what I remember from 2017. But one of my friends that fucked her said it was the best sex he's ever had, and this guy actually travels around the world for mongering (ME, Asia, SA, EU). Maybe my friend got something from her that I never got? So who knows? I think it's a hit or miss with her. She definitely has her fans at Sharks so it's very much YMMV.
Like Juliet RO from GoldenTime DE. I read many people give ok to bad reviews on here, but she always gave me amazing service and never any attitude. Even after one time I ditched her when she went to get the key and I went to fuck some new girl and forgot about her LOL. I'd always leave her mouth full and my balls emptied.[/QUOTE]Blond Juliet who sit close to door to corridor to garden is now at Amesia ex Bumsalp, but when I was never with her at Bruggen, I found more attractive ones at Amesia. If Dina tells private BF what she told me, I understand she can t keep one taking care of her, when she is not interesting in bed as a woman. Just for quick fuck to empty balls. But she was one of the prettiest and furthermore now among falling casting.
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2715923]I went to sharks on Saturday and everything that everyone has said is relatively true. There were about 100 girls the pool was open it was pretty busy and for the most part everyone looked pretty good. No one unattractive. I was with a few girls but it was OK for the most part but nothing amazing. I'm into a more GFE experience with kissing and that was mediocre. Personally, I found the girls in Thailand way more romantic.
Still worth the trip. I'm surprised how many people smoke and I though the food was okay but still edible. For regulars, do you negotiate before entering the room? The upsells are crazy.[/QUOTE]I don t negotiate before room because killing my desire, sounding too much paid sex, I look how girl looks at me and talk to me and I listen. In room, I lead to try to get what I enjoy. Usually working quite well, on few times failure. On Saturday, at Mainhattan birthday, had very interesting experience with pretty Ukrainian Lana telling not kissing when we arrived in room. And good breathe. At Sharks now, I would advice to ask before.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2716118]Blond Juliet who sit close to door to corridor to garden is now at Amesia ex Bumsalp, but when I was never with her at Bruggen, I found more attractive ones at Amesia.[/QUOTE]Oh good, she's always told me she wanted to work in Switzerland because she thinks she'll make more there.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2715667]Why are you trying to get them to sharks? Instead of paying 40-50/30 min you want to pay 100/30 min? Also, Typically the longer a girl stays in sharks the less service she provides. It's just a toxic environment. You should persuade more girls to work in ACA instead.[/QUOTE]Shark's management is complete shit and eventually it will be a ghost club. They need to do 1 of 2 things. Either control the prices to match the quality of the girls or control the quality of girls that can come work. Right now they're literally not doing anything. Some of these wild animals that they call girls are asking Swiss prices. Have they looked at a mirror? Maybe they don't have mirrors in the jungle, but I'm not paying 150 E 30 or even 100 E 30 for a baboon. I don't know who in their right mind is paying these prices at Sharks when there are many, many other clubs that charges less and have higher quality optics. Maybe there is something in the water in Darmstadt all these men are losing IQ? Shit, go to Switzerland and spend that same money for a higher quality girl.
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If you are new to sharks and its girls there, always always negotiate before room. Make everything crystal clear and you will have a much better time.
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2715923]I went to sharks on Saturday and everything that everyone has said is relatively true. There were about 100 girls the pool was open it was pretty busy and for the most part everyone looked pretty good. No one unattractive. I was with a few girls but it was OK for the most part but nothing amazing. I'm into a more GFE experience with kissing and that was mediocre. Personally, I found the girls in Thailand way more romantic.
Still worth the trip. I'm surprised how many people smoke and I though the food was okay but still edible. For regulars, do you negotiate before entering the room? The upsells are crazy.[/QUOTE]
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Dude!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2716122]I don t negotiate before room because killing my desire, sounding too much paid sex.[/QUOTE]It [B]is[/B] paid sex LOLOLOL! I would say get real and lose your illusions, but we all know where that would go. Ha!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2716316]It [B]is[/B] paid sex LOLOLOL! I would say get real and lose your illusions, but we all know where that would go. Ha![/QUOTE]I'm only interested by women parts, my regulars, some weekly for years, were those with who we never spoke about money. When Kate moved from Velbert to Bruggen, she didn't tell me: here new rate. When I see a girl as a prostitute, then I won't go more than once just to fuck her, when I usually like to repeat weekly and hate grocery. But I know and was told again on Saturday at Mainhattan and Sunday at Gold, how I'm different for behavior. I don't go to brothels to cure my frustrations, but to dream, and only beauty can make me dream, not hardcore nor porn.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2716228]Oh good, she's always told me she wanted to work in Switzerland because she thinks she'll make more there.[/QUOTE]Not really busy at Amesia, but 170/30 versus 50 at Bruggen.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2716244]Shark's management is complete shit and eventually it will be a ghost club. They need to do 1 of 2 things. Either control the prices to match the quality of the girls or control the quality of girls that can come work. Right now they're literally not doing anything. Some of these wild animals that they call girls are asking Swiss prices. Have they looked at a mirror? Maybe they don't have mirrors in the jungle, but I'm not paying 150 E 30 or even 100 E 30 for a baboon. I don't know who in their right mind is paying these prices at Sharks when there are many, many other clubs that charges less and have higher quality optics. Maybe there is something in the water in Darmstadt all these men are losing IQ? Shit, go to Switzerland and spend that same money for a higher quality girl.[/QUOTE]Did you really visit Globe on 2021 or 2022? When Sharks had better casting with some beauties for 100/60 on 2021. Unfortunately the fall on 2022, but Globe is not much higher. Fortunately, I still find attractive girls on 2022, but not in biggest, most famous clubs.
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OK then!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2716447]I don't go to brothels to cure my frustrations, but to dream, and only beauty can make me dream, not hardcore nor porn.[/QUOTE]Well you keep on dreaming then. And remembering to bring your wallet too! Because if you don't, then you [B]will[/B] be only dreaming about getting some beautiful mummy pussy LOL!
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[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2715923]I went to sharks on Saturday and everything that everyone has said is relatively true. There were about 100 girls the pool was open it was pretty busy and for the most part everyone looked pretty good. No one unattractive. I was with a few girls but it was OK for the most part but nothing amazing. I'm into a more GFE experience with kissing and that was mediocre. Personally, I found the girls in Thailand way more romantic.
Still worth the trip. I'm surprised how many people smoke and I though the food was okay but still edible. For regulars, do you negotiate before entering the room? The upsells are crazy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2716316]It [B]is[/B] paid sex LOLOLOL! I would say get real and lose your illusions, but we all know where that would go. Ha![/QUOTE]There is GFE to be had, but it is rare. Don't forget the girls can read you just as you try and read the girls. While I've had a few that say I "kiss" and you only get a nibble, I've also had those that enjoyed the illusion and seemed ready to make me happy. But as Cane says, I've always kept the money discussion in the bar and once in the room just tried to build a mood. I've debated this with others while sitting lookng for my girl, I firmly believe the conversation in the bar area can be a hint to what she is like upstairs. Those that are in a hurry to get you upstairs are seldom GF6. Maybe the answer is to go to a smaller club where you can find someone to take upstairs after talking to a few ladies.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2716608]There is GFE to be had, but it is rare. Don't forget the girls can read you just as you try and read the girls. While I've had a few that say I "kiss" and you only get a nibble, I've also had those that enjoyed the illusion and seemed ready to make me happy. But as Cane says, I've always kept the money discussion in the bar and once in the room just tried to build a mood. I've debated this with others while sitting lookng for my girl, I firmly believe the conversation in the bar area can be a hint to what she is like upstairs. Those that are in a hurry to get you upstairs are seldom GF6. Maybe the answer is to go to a smaller club where you can find someone to take upstairs after talking to a few ladies.[/QUOTE]Sounds fair. Maybe I'll try out different clubs in the future. Don't get me wrong, I still had fun.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2716575]Well you keep on dreaming then. And remembering to bring your wallet too! Because if you don't, then you [B]will[/B] be only dreaming about getting some beautiful mummy pussy LOL![/QUOTE]On 2022, I don't pay for more than 95% of Sharks looks and I run away from upselling which kill my desire. On the other hand, even I was furious driving back to Rheinfelden, but I paid 510/90 twice for love in bed with a Swiss virgin look at Amesia. All girls don't worth same rate for me.
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2716244]Shark's management is complete shit and eventually it will be a ghost club. They need to do 1 of 2 things. Either control the prices to match the quality of the girls or control the quality of girls that can come work. Right now they're literally not doing anything. Some of these wild animals that they call girls are asking Swiss prices. Have they looked at a mirror? Maybe they don't have mirrors in the jungle, but I'm not paying 150 E 30 or even 100 E 30 for a baboon. I don't know who in their right mind is paying these prices at Sharks when there are many, many other clubs that charges less and have higher quality optics. Maybe there is something in the water in Darmstadt all these men are losing IQ? Shit, go to Switzerland and spend that same money for a higher quality girl.[/QUOTE]As told me manager on 2017 when a German wanted I was kicked off, but he failed, but was told: if you don't like, don't come. He was right. Visiting weekly on 2021, only 4 visits on this year, arithmetics talk.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2716608]There is GFE to be had, but it is rare. Don't forget the girls can read you just as you try and read the girls. While I've had a few that say I "kiss" and you only get a nibble, I've also had those that enjoyed the illusion and seemed ready to make me happy. But as Cane says, I've always kept the money discussion in the bar and once in the room just tried to build a mood. I've debated this with others while sitting lookng for my girl, I firmly believe the conversation in the bar area can be a hint to what she is like upstairs. Those that are in a hurry to get you upstairs are seldom GF6. Maybe the answer is to go to a smaller club where you can find someone to take upstairs after talking to a few ladies.[/QUOTE]I guess their plan is to have someone lie on their back for a blow job and then pick a position to finish. I try to get something different than that. It seems to depend on how strict they are at sticking to their plan or which plan they have to begin with. I guess you have to get them confident they have a good plan even if it is different than usual. I guess when they ask you what you want you want you have to make a strong impression that changes their plan. I imagine it needs to stop them in their tracks and they need to take it seriously. You can't let it get brushed off. You are probably good at that. I have simpler tastes but they are important.
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Pool
I've been to Sharks a few times but never in the summer. Does everyone just go commando in the pool or do guys wear swimsuits? Same question to sunbathing.
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It's totally up to you but most just do it naked in the pool and cover with a piece of tower while sunbathing. You can certainly do it naked as well. Nobody cares.
[QUOTE=PokePro;2716736]I've been to Sharks a few times but never in the summer. Does everyone just go commando in the pool or do guys wear swimsuits? Same question to sunbathing.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2716736]I've been to Sharks a few times but never in the summer. Does everyone just go commando in the pool or do guys wear swimsuits? Same question to sunbathing.[/QUOTE]For jacuzzi, sauna or swimming pool, You have to show your size. Only under shower, some keep underwear to wash it on them. Swimming pool is cold.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2717054]Inflation yes, but nothing else that I know of went up 100%, not even gasoline.[/QUOTE]Oh regarding inflation, has the prices of drinks at Sharks increased? Beer still 6-8 euro and wine 10-12 euro per glass? Bottles of wine still about 30-40 euro? Liquor still 12-15 euro?
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[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2717160]I'm not complaining about the prices. Reread what I wrote. The Swiss clubs have the same if not higher prices than Sharks at the moment. And I think those prices are justified.
What is not justified is a 1/10 fat chimpanzee asking Swiss prices. All I'm saying is that the quality of the girl need to match the price. So the club management can either get Swiss or even Austrian level girls at this current moment for 150 E 30. OR match what other discount clubs like Dietzenbach is offering.
Honestly some of these beasts are even too ugly for RTC clubs.[/QUOTE]Its hard to see your point when this is the second post where you are referring to women as primates! Hehe.
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Hi,
I've been to sharks about a month ago and had a very good time. Most woman wanting 100€ was a bit pricey but it still was worth it.
There was one woman who was extraordinary good but whos name I cannot remember (what irony) and I hope someone can help me. She had long black hair, green eyes, a-cup, slim figure and told me she comes here to work for some time and then returns to Zurich where she lives and also works as some sort of stripper if I remember correctly. She also told me the name of the club but that I also can't remember. Oh and she was Moldavian.