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Street Hound,
An LA Cafe girl for $500?! And you think $500 in your pocket is low in cash? You must think you are in Paris or something with all the high priced hookers or you must have a big fat trust fund. Last time I checked Philippines is still a Third World country. Are you running a charity? I'm sure nothing could wipe off the grin from the girl's face for a month; not even the big hurricanes in the Philippines.
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Hello Street Hound,
I must say you are crazy if you spent $500 USD. The going rate at the LA cafe is 1000 pesos ( $18.55 USD) ST and sometimes LT. You must mean 500 Pesos on your last post.
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A question for accomodations. I was in makati in 9/03. very nice but can't get Balikbayan rate at the shangrila (cause Im white) and now is 135 pernight over x mas. I did love the place but never got my bearing in Makati although I did make it over to Burgous street my last night. My ? is.... should I try staying in manila ie an area closer to the nightclubs ie the edsa shangrlila. I want to see more of manila this time. I cant screww non stop ( I am 47) and I am interested in experiencing the culture of the real Philippinos for part of my vacation.
thanks in advance for your help
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Ozikboy,
You’re question is a little vague to me, maybe because when I think of the word “culture”, in itself, I’m not sure what it means. Culture is such a loaded word that sometimes it doesn’t mean anything unless its placed in its right context.
Anyway, I think I know what you mean. If you’re talking about the bar scene where most locals go, then you might want to remain in Makati. Most of the bars there are decent, meaning not a whole lot of bar fights, and you’ll meet a lot of upper middle class Filipina women.
Bars: Where else ?, Wasabe, Euphoria..
Also, try the malls. When I was there last year, I hung around Glorietta mall and Rockwell. You’ll find mostly regular/non-pro filipinas in this area. I also went Paddy’s point in Timog and it was quite interesting. I found out that some women in that club were Pros.
Try to stick around areas where it’s safe. I don’t think you would like to know the bad culture of PI.
Hope this helps. Keep us posted.
P.S.
I’m planning to be back in PI around Feb of next year. Any of you regular mongers that are out there at that time, send me PM. Maybe we should start a charter A.M.A (American Mongers Assoc) in PI, with Jackson’s approval of course.
Anyway, Keep the flow of info coming.
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santaclaus;
I think Ozikboy meant the real culture of the Phillipines .. eg. native food, music, normal night spots like discos and other non-sex diversions. True culture being things that locals do for fun as opposed to stuff created just for tourists. For example in Tokyo you would watch Sumo, eat at a top notch Sushi restaurant, hit the Shibuya city night clubs, visiting the open markets, visiting the Japanese temples, etc. I could be wrong, but that's how I read it.
AT2
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Ozikboy.... For accomodation around nr Burgos..try the Oka Hotel on kalayaan Ave...very near Burgos (abt 50 metres :)) ) Ive stayed there a few tyms..always good and no problems tyaking guirls back.....Or try www.asiatravel.com for great deals in some manila hotels. I always stay at heritage Hotel in pasay....have never paid more than 60 USD...many clubs around there too..and a lot cheaper than burgos clubs..:)
For real Philippine culture...just get out of manila... have lots of fun and please keep us posted..
the flying scotsman
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To: Street Hound
I know Miztiza beauty, the Castillan I suppose, always cost more in Manila. We have different rating scale than the rest of the ho mongers in this thread.
I onced used a service of a high end escort. She stood 5'8" (around 172 cm). Half Japanese I think She was very beautifull. The service was also excellent. Total damage was around 500 USD for overnight.
People in my condo noticed her. She screamed when I f*cked her. Anyway, the next day all the girls in my condo were nice to me. They had an idea on how much money I am willing to spend. And, all guys always looked at my d*ck every time they saw me. I think they thought I have a size of a black stallion's. But, I really hated how the Bakla stared at me.
Cheers
Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist
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JAD,
If you fully understood the rating scale of Street Hound based on what he posted, you must be beyond psychic or you are just finding gratification in praising your own self - some kind of mental masturbation I suppose. To make your anecdotes useful to us other mongers with limited psychic ability, i suggest that you stick to more primitive modes of thinking such as logical reasoning or deduction. A little modesty may also help.
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I hate to let you know mongers out here who's looking for action on the streets of Quezon City, Manila, Mabini, Ermita or Malate Those girls are the "bottom of the barrel". The reason they are out there is because no sex establishment would take them. These establishments have doctors that makes sure that they are healthy before they start working. Most of these SWs have already been scared by STDs or is suffering from one. Their hygiene is highly questionable coz they are stricken by poverty which means they can't even afford sanitary products or possibly even uneducated about it. The locals wouldn't even touch them. I suggest that you stick with establishments such as KTVs, MPs and bars where you will be "safe".
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Street Hound
$500 for a 6 scale girl at the LA Cafe!!! That's way out of my league. I sure hope she was worth it. When I visit L.A. Cafe this weekend and see one of the girls with a really big big smile then I cancheck out the scale your using. Heck, if you gave her $500 she probably wont be working for the next couple of weeks.
I wish I can say carrying $500 is low for me but I do not go out with that kind of cash, in dollars too around Makati or Manila.
Ozikboy
Since you want to see culture and cannot screw non-stop. I suggest to pick a nice girl and have her show you around outside Manila. Not much to see around the town except historical stuff and lots of malls or shops and of course, the night clubs.
When Filipinos themselves want culture they find the next big fiesta like "Sinulog" in Cebu and enjoy themselves. Christmas in the Phils is well... quite merry. They already started decorating this past October and gets merrier til the 25th. Forget the Shangri-la, you can find a place as nice for half the price and girl or guest friendly around Pasay or Malate.Plus it is real close to the clubs.
For most Filipinos, their greatest culture is their love of basketball, partying and just plain having a good time. Just get some feedback of some of the places you might want to go and do some research before travelling south. Way south. Have fun and be safe.
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I meant pesos, sorry for the confusion.
Usually I'm not trying to be so cheap, because I find in general you get what you pay for. This night, by the time I got to LA Cafe, I only had about 1200 pesos left in my pocket (after getting a massage at a korean oriented place that ended with zippo extras, and visiting some other places). I really only intended to grab a beer and a sandwich and window shop. This girl came up and sat with me, and after a little while I started warming up to her, and her to me. I got ready to leave, telling her I just didn't have the money to spend on her tonight, but that I'd come back.
She asked how much I had, I told her I only had about 500 pesos left after paying the tab (and saving cab fare back to Makati). She said it would be fine, even after I explained I wouldn't have money for a tip. "Let's go" she said.
I was worried that service would be poor, but she really surprised me, a GFE in all. She kept commenting on how she liked that I was nice to her, and that I didn't look down on her for what she did. Kind of a funny remark, but she seemed sincere.
Again, sorry to confuse everyone with the dollars versus pesos slip (interesting to see though who few people gave the "benefit of the doubt" that it was a typo, and that most people assumed I really had paid $500. Hmmm. )
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New York Pinoy,
I'll be in Manila Dec 20-21. I can show you around if you want to. I'm noypi too. Going to Mindanao to see my non-pro GFs. Quezon Avenue/Tomas Morato is my station. A lot of KTVs and MPs like Pegasus, Lexus, Heartbeat, Mystique, Stardust, etc. They got the freshest honeys. When you see one that you like just negotiate with the mamasan. They are there to make you happy. Sometimes they might think your LE when you got the crew cut and the athletic or heavy set body. You can easily convince them your not by just speaking with an American accent. I'm sure you can do that. Just one advice, buy a GSM phone and phone card upon arrival. Try to get the numbers of the honeys you meet or give them your number. Next day, you can have the time of your life that is with no middlemen. Cheapest GSM phones are about USD 60 with phone card. Save the phone for the next trip or give it as a gift (payment?) to one of your honeys when your done. Believe me it will be worth it. Another thing, girls just fall for Amboys like u and me, most of them would like to have you as there bf - no shit. They just surround you like flies.
Have fun.
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To: masterblaster
I agree with most of your reasoning. Perhaps I don't really understand Street Hound's rating scale. But, I know about mine.
I sampled girls from most massage parlors in Pasay, Manila, Makati, and QC. I sampled several girls from go go bars in Pasay, Manila, and Makati. I sampled several girls from Karaoke & Bold Show Clubs in Pasay, Manila, Makati, and QC. I sampled girls from most casas in Cash & Carry area, Makati. I sampled several high price girls from the Bakla. I also sampled several kept women/soft hookers in my Condo. I refuse to name these soft hookers for reason of discretion.
I know the difference. And, I am happy with myself. If, they all are the same to you, then there is nothing I can say!
Word of advice: It has been said among Super Clubs, Pharoah in Makati (along the Creek) is the best. Try this, they won;t drain your money. KTVs are high class places for GRO, but not for glamour models.
Cheers
Jakarta After Dark the born again Satanist
Note: Out of curiousity, do you read the Black Pope Anton Szandor La Vey's works? I mean your terms sound like his.
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Masterblaster,
First trip in 2001. Paid P 12,000 for a what? That was $ 300 US at that time. Reminds me of an MD who earns only the equivalent of $ 500/Month in Cebu City.
You must enjoy throwing money away. Hope she was woth it. I have been going to SE Asia for 15 years. Speak 3 Asian languages to varying degrees of fluency. Been to Phils 50 + separate trips. Don't care who she is, could be Imelda Marcos' daughter for fucking crying out loud, she IS NOT worth P 12,000. Once paid P 2,000 for a dropdead 23 yo out of "Dimples" on Burgos Street in Makati. Was after a very long dry spell here in USA working and listening to clients crying. I guess I would have crawled on the floor for a gorgeous Asian girl at that time.
Always regretted the price. Though the fuck and blowjob were both good. Still, P 1,000 for a couple hours is plenty.
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Sorry guys but not familiar with GRO term or GSM phone. Thanks for the report. will be in Makati on 12/21 til 24 than on to BKK. back in makti from 1/5 til 1/9
Ozikboy