Minsk

Thanks for an inspired report Felix, it really makes me consider venturing outside of my normal destinations. Taking your new 23 year old model as an example, how much does such a sponsor deal set you back? Also, where do you believe it's best option to find girls, normal dating sites?

/Q

[QUOTE=Latexian2; 1251596]I'm pretty sure you just got played. I'd bet good money she was a virgin, and she made up this story about another girl hiring her in order to see what you said. The correct reaction is "there are no other girls." You basically just admitted you have lots of girlfriends to her, which she probably suspects anyways but you should never say that straightforward like that. You also certainly could have pushed through the barrier, sounds like she just got cold feet at the last minute (something common with virgins or those inexperienced).

No worries though, I'm sure we've all had similar stories. The "get into bed but no sex happens" is something I got used to in the states but I rarely see in Ukraine / Russia / Belarus.[/QUOTE]You could be correct that she got cold feet in the end. However she was pushed to the option all the way along to get a taxi and go home as I was not really keen to have her all night due to the risk of an interactment with a regular girl comming in the early morning. I obviuosly told her if she stay the night it would mean sex. I had some girls in the past who wanted to stay the night but refused sex because it was the first meeting but none of them made any story up like this or went all the way to get naked before telling stop. They normally say stop when you try to kiss or undress them or daring touching. This time it was something different, but I am not sure I believe her story. Too risky for a girl to go all that way and the risk of getting shagged anyway. Well, there are a tons of different personalties out there, and not all are Einsteins. Some girls are just that naive and stupid. Well, never mind. Just wanted to tell that unexpected things can happen any one.

/Felix

[QUOTE=Qubei; 1251730]Thanks for an inspired report Felix, it really makes me consider venturing outside of my normal destinations. Taking your new 23 year old model as an example, how much does such a sponsor deal set you back? Also, where do you believe it's best option to find girls, normal dating sites?

/Q[/QUOTE]Helle member!

You are welcome man! I am glad to write a report and to contribute.

The "23 year old model" set me back a USD 100 for each 2. 3 hour meeting. With that information given, you have to take the whole context in to consideration. That from the start she was actually quite keen on meeting me and I did treat her well. (charm, respect etc). The "mutual thing" between you and a sponsored girl is THE main thing for your common deal and agreement. Play your cards bad and treat her like low life and it will all be strictly business and a business deal only. Provided she even agrees to meet you. You might get dumped if you are behaving bad. And if you think you can fool a high class sponsor on the first meeting, you might be correct, but she will not meet you for the second time, for sure. A "hooker" will meet you anyway but a "gentle fresh sponsor girl. And those are the gems" is likley to shy away from a rude approach. Be smart and do it well; with respect but not stupid, and you will be rewarded.

/Felix

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1235308]Tourist support document (voucher) can be had if you ask these guys:

[url]http://angelikaminsk.com/visa.shtml[/url]

I usually use their service. What they will issue even for apartments is a phoney voucher saying you will stay in this or that hotel. Use this info when filling in the visa form. (and do not forget to get registred within 5 working days. Or you are a smoked fish) [/QUOTE]Felix, would you have any info about how to get easily the two monthes visa "for private purpose"?

The invitation or voucher for the one month tourist visa is a priori pretty easy to get through apartment rental companies, but for a two monthes "private purpose" visa, it seems that it's much more complicated if you follow the official requirements (from what I have read, invitation must come from a Belarus citizen through his migration office). Do you think that a company like the one on the link you posted can offer an invitation this type of visa?

A couple of girls caught my eye. On this site.

[url]http://www.holidaysexguide.com/p/belarus.php.[/url]

Kati looks hot, but at 150 euro / H/

Natali 100 euro / H.

Anyone here used holidaysex guide anywhere for escorts.

[url]www.MinskNightlife.net[/url].

Seems to be good source of info as well.

[QUOTE=Prosal; 1252257]Felix, would you have any info about how to get easily the two monthes visa "for private purpose"?

The invitation or voucher for the one month tourist visa is a priori pretty easy to get through apartment rental companies, but for a two monthes "private purpose" visa, it seems that it's much more complicated if you follow the official requirements (from what I have read, invitation must come from a Belarus citizen through his migration office). Do you think that a company like the one on the link you posted can offer an invitation this type of visa?[/QUOTE]Hey Prosal,

You can get a private visa and then extend it for two more months. I did this once and stayed for three months. The trouble is getting the private one month visa in the first place. The charity I worked for organised mine for me. Let me try to think of a plan to go about it.

I'm busy now but will respond to your Grodna post later on.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1252741]A couple of girls caught my eye. On this site.

[url]http://www.holidaysexguide.com/p/belarus.php.[/url]

Kati looks hot, but at 150 euro / H/

Natali 100 euro / H.

Anyone here used holidaysex guide anywhere for escorts.

[url]www.MinskNightlife.net[/url]

Seems to be good source of info as well.[/QUOTE]For the first link, use the Menu to the left and lik o Belarus. , and click under Escorts.

[QUOTE=Prosal; 1252257]Felix, would you have any info about how to get easily the two monthes visa "for private purpose"?

The invitation or voucher for the one month tourist visa is a priori pretty easy to get through apartment rental companies, but for a two monthes "private purpose" visa, it seems that it's much more complicated if you follow the official requirements (from what I have read, invitation must come from a Belarus citizen through his migration office). Do you think that a company like the one on the link you posted can offer an invitation this type of visa?[/QUOTE]Hi Prosal!

I've only done a private visa one time and it was ok as I was not filling in the needed support documents myself. It was for two weeks only. However I remember that it was a real ***** to do the registration one in Belarus. I stayed as guest with a girl in Gomel and it took her a full day to get the registration done of that private visa. Borderland has posted some info about to prolong it. I've never done that so I can't help. Sorry man.

I do not think an agency can help you as thats a private visa but you can always ask. Perhaps they can or give further advice.

I wish it was easier to get a one year business visa. Any one who has done that?

Happy hunting gentlemen.

/Felix

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1252741]A couple of girls caught my eye. On this site.

[url]http://www.holidaysexguide.com/p/belarus.php.[/url]

Kati looks hot, but at 150 euro / H/

Natali 100 euro / H.

Anyone here used holidaysex guide anywhere for escorts.

[url]www.MinskNightlife.net[/url]

Seems to be good source of info as well.[/QUOTE]Kati looks beautiful, you are correct. Still that says nothing about the service. I would never pay E 150 for an hour anyway. Or even a E 100.

Better deals are to be had if you are prepared to spend a bit of time and effort. Again I can't really understand those who go to Belarus for P4P only. The gems are in the naive "non spoiled" and wonderful amatuer or sponsored girls in this country.

As mentioned in other furums P4P can be an option if you only comes for a weekend and have limited time to find "free" girls. However your wallet will take the pinch and for that value you probably get more for the dollar if you visit a FKK in Germany.

Just my 2 cents.

/Felix

P.s By this I do not wish to seem "like a know it all guy or an expert" but I rather post my policy. Anyway thats just me and how I do it. Others, much more skilled, might do it in a different which is fine. We all have our different way to get the pussy...

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1253087]Kati looks beautiful, you are correct. Still that says nothing about the service. I would never pay E 150 for an hour anyway. Or even a E 100.

Better deals are to be had if you are prepared to spend a bit of time and effort. Again I can't really understand those who go to Belarus for P4P only. The gems are in the naive "non spoiled" and wonderful amatuer or sponsored girls in this country.

As mentioned in other furums P4P can be an option if you only comes for a weekend and have limited time to find "free" girls. However your wallet will take the pinch and for that value you probably get more for the dollar if you visit a FKK in Germany.

Just my 2 cents.

/Felix.[/QUOTE]Felix, there is no way I tly my Ass all the way to Minsk or Kiev, and end up paying 150 0r 100 euros an hour.

It defeats the whole object of flying to EE ountries for P4P.

I am always doing some research & comparing pirices, and I would only pay in an EE country, if the girl is better looking and at a lower price to what I currently pay in London or close to it.

Katie on that link caught my eye as a link for escorts that I wasn't aware of.

Here is a link to a blonde english girl that I had the pleasure with at £60 1/2 hour.

[url]http://www.annabellasescorts.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=257.[/url]

Tilly 19 years old () and at £120 an / Hour is cheaper than Katie in Minsk.

In fact in Minsk I didn't end up paying for it, as I landed with 2 gems (students ).

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1253310]Felix, there is no way I tly my Ass all the way to Minsk or Kiev, and end up paying 150 0r 100 euros an hour.

It defeats the whole object of flying to EE ountries for P4P.

I am always doing some research & comparing pirices, and I would only pay in an EE country, if the girl is better looking and at a lower price to what I currently pay in London or close to it.

Katie on that link caught my eye as a link for escorts that I wasn't aware of.

Here is a link to a blonde english girl that I had the pleasure with at £60 1/2 hour.

[url]http://www.annabellasescorts.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=257.[/url]

Tilly 19 years old (and at £120 an / Hour is cheaper than Katie in Minsk.

In fact in Minsk I didn't end up paying for it, as I landed with 2 gems (students ).[/QUOTE]Ok, I understand JoJo! You got the game clear!

I hope you enjoyed you studentkas.

Cheers and happy hunting.

/Felix

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1253975]Ok, I understand JoJo! You got the game clear!

I hope you enjoyed you studentkas.

Cheers and happy hunting.

/Felix[/QUOTE]Hi Felix. With or without the students, I really enjoyed Minsk.

As you konw it very well, Minsk is a lot different to the other EE mongering destinations.

I don't go anywhere on an Ego trip (Being in the second half of my 40s) , and prefer the less complicated, and even cheaper option of P4P.

The 2 students were in a group outside yublijney Hotel, one of them was a stunning Blonde Girl.

Under the influence of few drinks. I just went up to them and started chatting. Asked them 4 directions 2 Westworld Club. Long Story Short. We met later at the club, and the Blonde & her Brunette Student friend were hanging around with me during my stay.

Had I met them on a P4P situation, it would have been cheaper, but mechanical, who knows.

I am very keen 2 find out if there are any Massage Places in Minsk, Do you know of any?

In Kiev its a great place to meet Students, who moonlight by working there on Weekends & Holidays.

If you hit it with them, you can meet them later.

Much better option & a hell lot nicer than the hardened pros.

Before I forget, the Strip clubs in Minsk were very nice as well. Next time I am in Minsk, iwill try my luck with one of the dancers.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1253975]Ok, I understand JoJo! You got the game clear!

I hope you enjoyed you studentkas.

Cheers and happy hunting.

/Felix[/QUOTE]Not promoting London 4 P4P or any particular provider, but in the context of research&price comparison, by using London prices as my benchmark for mongering in other countries.

[url]http://www.annabellasescorts.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=252.[/url]

Here is one girl on my next Hit List. Pixie a Blonde Bulgarian girl at £60 1/2 hour with all services shown.

I WENT ON HOLIDAY to Bulgaria, and did all the scouting there in Sunny Beach & Golden sands.

The going rates were 150 levs an hour (Read One Pop.) & the girls were no where near the above Bulgarian Pixie in London.

Now you jogged my memory. Met in Minsk one very attractive girl who worked for Belarus TV, who was coming over to London. Went with her 4 Dinner in a very nice restaurant, and she mentioned during the course of the conversation about the possibility of her working as an Escort in London? (Read semi Pro) She. Mentioned if 400 euros was ok in London?

JoJo was thinking by now that this girl is not 4 me, so changed the subject to other things, and next day went back to my Students for a New Class in Simplicity in fun when in Minsk.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1253998]Not promoting London 4 P4P or any particular provider, but in the context of research&price comparison, by using London prices as my benchmark for mongering in other countries.

[url]http://www.annabellasescorts.com/escort-girl.php?girlid=252.[/url]

Here is one girl on my next Hit List. Pixie a Blonde Bulgarian girl at £60 1/2 hour with all services shown.

I WENT ON HOLIDAY to Bulgaria, and did all the scouting there in Sunny Beach & Golden sands.

The going rates were 150 levs an hour (Read One Pop.) & the girls were no where near the above Bulgarian Pixie in London.

Now you jogged my memory. Met in Minsk one very attractive girl who worked for Belarus TV, who was coming over to London. Went with her 4 Dinner in a very nice restaurant, and she mentioned during the course of the conversation about the possibility of her working as an Escort in London? (Read semi Pro) She. Mentioned if 400 euros was ok in London?

JoJo was thinking by now that this girl is not 4 me, so changed the subject to other things, and next day went back to my Students for a New Class in Simplicity in fun when in Minsk.[/QUOTE]JoJo, I am glad you had a good time with the studentkas! Sometimes these casual moments of picking up girls are the best ones. I remeber that two years ago I hit on a stunner in the metro in Minsk. I chased her down and had a hard time with her but I did not give up. It frustrated me a lot to simply date her and drink coffee and talk and hardly even kiss her, even though she was invited to my apartment several times. Other girls I have shagged a lot faster, sometimes on the first meeting as in internet contacts. It took me easily 10 meetings before I got inside her panties. But what a sweet reward when it finally happened! Those who are willing to do a bit of work will in the end get the best results IMHO. Perhaps that is not a good example as a lot of internet finds give it up on the first, or second or third date. But some challenges are good and sometimes you must have THAT girl no matter what it takes. A luxury a man can afford if he comes often to a country like Belarus and if he is lucky. (ok, I worked quite hard for that so perhaps I deserve it, I think). Around Christmas she told me that our relation is finished as she think I am not a serious man. I tried to get her back but she did not answer. Last month I contacted her as I was in Minsk and she told me it is finished and that she has a new boyfriend. I wished her good luck of course. Such is life, but the momories remain.

I would not use that London escort agency as a bench mark for pricing. No way! Western prices and especially in London is one thing and it can not really be compared to EE and especially not Belarus. Only suckers pay London prices for girls in EE (former soviet) IMHO. No insults intended. Please understand.

I'm glad you ditched the TV girl. There are other prospects that will be so much more rewarding.

I have a sponsored girl. 20 years old. She is my porn princess. At the first date she spent the night with me for USD 50 and was happy with that (her friend slept in my sofa). Later I talked her into making a porno video with me and she agreed without a problem. Thats why I name her my porn princess and she is a quite a natural talent in front of the camera. That costs me a USD 100 per 2 to 3 hour meeting including video session. Previously she has brought girlfriends with her that proved to be rather lame in all. Last time she came together with a new girl. Sexy big titted 20 year old girl. We all had fun together and a nice video session. The promised bisexual acts were perhaps not as seen in professional porn videos, and were limited to kissing and light touching and brief pussy eating. But thats what I got. I have to be happy with that and I am.

Oh yeah, what I want to say that it pays to spend time and hunt.

Cheers and happy mongering to all)

/Felix

The links below for London, were meant 4 comparison purposes only.

It doesn't mean that I pay these prices in an EE country.

Comparing Like 4 like, say in Minsk, then I have to adjust it by at least Half.

That said, when I was in Minsk there was a very nice looking WG in the Bar of Planeta Hotel. She wanted US100 for coming back to my room. I didn't pursue it, so I assume it was for short time.

Then you had to pay $20 to security.

In Yubijney Hotel a couple of girls wanted 150 for both of them.

London benchmark is the Max I would pay. If and a big If a real Stunner gets in my way and I am feeling really horny, then I let my Dick do the thinking for me. At the time.

I don't like to bargain with girls, and I would only pay what I can Afford at the time.

Quite honestly I don't think any WG will ask less than US100 in a Club or hotel bar in Minsk.