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Hellow all!
I am planning on a Trip to Cali and Cartagena. I have gotten good suggestions from JT for Cartagena. Can anyone point me on the right direction. I plan on been in Cali for about 6 days and am planning on meeting up with some non-pros Caleñas and am also planning on hooking up with the pros of course. Any advise where I might not feel uncomfortable bringing non-pros and where I can bring pros freely. Oh I forgot to mention affortable too. Perhaps an apt? This websites are a goldmine or someone looking to have fun.
Thanks guys,
MaximusOyer
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Am in Cali right now. Visited Dr. Love casa a few days ago and Pharaon (Pharoh) club a few days before. Prices are quite cheap, but the quality is not the best at these two clubs, girls ranged from 4 to 7.
Paid 45,000 for an hour at Pharaon, about 17US. Not much of an experience, here, more like an assembly line. One problem with this experience is that the girls here have a certain routine at this club, they must put on the condom before any BJ, then they try to get you inside quite quickly and of course they are strictly business and their pussy is as dry as the Mojado desert. Hard to stick an unlubricated condom covered penis up a dry canal. Even with an hour session they have a pre-ordained routine like an assembly line. Unless you have viagra power it is tough to get excited making love to latex (which you can do at home just as well).
Dr. Love (a block away) had about 15 average looking girls on a Saturday afternoon. For a half an hour of nursing (joke) back to life I paid about 25,000 pesos which is $10 US. Girl was energetic and gave a good BBBJ.
Both of these casas/clubs are on the street by the Cali River, I think near the Aparta-hotel. Cab drivers know the location.
Prices are alot less than Flora frescas because the Colombian guys go to these 2 clubs. Mostly tourists at Flora frescas and alot of show but not much natural experience.
Has anyone been to Tanga Club near Unicentro lately? I asked the cab drivers but they had not heard of this club. Maybe it closed.
Am sidetracked by a cute young girl from a marriage agency. Took her our dancing at Brisas on Avenida Sexta last night and watched her drink me under the table. Most Colombian girls love to dance and drink. Time will tell if she is for me, but I am enjoying the relationship for now.
At 1 am there were alot of young girls on Avenida Sexta looking for a nighttime companion. Some of the bad girls were as young as 13 according to my novia and were working because they needed the money. The police were on this same street corner removing a drunk from this bar, but they did not seem to care about all the young girls seeking action.
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Just got back from another trip to Colombia. I spent a total of twelve days 7 in Cali and 5 in Medellin (3 in Cali, 5 in Medellin, then the final 4 in Cali.) This was my second trip to Cali and my third to Medellin. I was traveling with Frijole and we expected to hook up with China Monger in Cali, but it just never happened.
I again stayed at the Hostal San Fernando (www.calihotel.com) and can't say enough about how far out of his way the owner Rigo will go to make sure that you have a good time and find what you are looking for.
Cali Report:
Kaliente Club: Calle 25 Norte No. 2 Bis - 47, B. San Vicente, 653-6832. Kaliente is probably my favorite place in Cali. Usually between 10 to 15 girls available. $80,000 pesos for an hour on site and $180,000 for three hours at your hotel. If you take the girl to go they will add travel time onto the three hours to make sure that you get the three hours with the girl. Make sure that you mention this to the manager with whom you make the deal. I was also taking dance classes in Cali so most days I would pull a girl out of Kaliente take my hour dance class and then spend two hours in the bedroom. All of the girls I pulled out of Kaliente were a lot of fun both in the dance class and in bed. The sala in Kaliente is substantially dirtier than the last time I was there. I did not do anything on site so I can't say whether the bedrooms were clean or not.
Jhon Davis: Av. 2 Bis Norte #28 –47 661-6282. This place is around the corner and down the street from Kaliente. They hand out business cards that say that they are a butcher shop. I found the quality of chicas there to be substantially lower than Kaliente. But others might disagree. I did pull an 18 year old named Deisy out of there. She looked great until she came out of the bathroom naked, she must have been wearing a girdle or something. When the clothes came off everything spread and sagged. She denied it but I suspect that she has at least one kid. She was really sweet but the performance was terrible. She was very concerned that I finish so I in fact faked it, thanked her and sent her on her way. 1 hr to go $50,000. One hour on site $40,000.
Right next door to Jhon Davis is another house same price structure as Jhon Davis but the girls weren't to my taste.
Two blocks down from Jhon Davis is a house with a blue wall, I don't know the address or the name. The night I pulled Deisy Frijole got a girl from there $80,000 pesos for an hour to go. The girl had a cute face and an incredible body but her teeth were more crooked than a Colombian politician. She claimed that on some Friday and Saturday nights there are college girls that come to work there to pay there tuition, buy books etc. We did go there on a Saturday night but only saw the same old lineup. But it might be worth checking if you are there.
FLORAS FRESCA or LA MANSION ROSADA, as some cab drivers know it: Calle 20N No.4N-16, 660-1958. FF is worth visiting once just to see the lesbo show. There are also usually some pretty good looking ladies there. You have to buy drinks there beers I think are $5,000 pesos and a bottle of rum is $40,000 pesos with coke and ice included, if you don't finish the bottle you can take it with you or give it to the girls. The last time I was in Cali I did one on site session at FF. I did my session early and watched them put the sheets etc. on the bed as my girl and I waited. My girl then told me that there is only one set of fresh sheets per night and that they only make up the bed, but don't change the sheets after each couple finishes. That was my first and only on site experience there. The house fee seems to range between $50-70,000 pesos, I paid 50 and dealt with a waiter, Fabio, that I had tipped well on other occassions but Frijole paid 70 and dealt with the other waiter, Manolo, so beware. The girls will ask for between $100-200k per hour but the most I paid was $250k for 2 hours. The clock doesn't start running until you get to your hotel. Again I did not have any bad experiences with any of the girls that I pulled from FF. One tip is don't get the reputation of being a tight wad there or the girls will shun you. Take care of the waiters and they will always get you a table and will in fact go and take girls you want away from other customers. Another tip, we went there on a Saturday night around 11:30 and no one was there. Only about 5 girls hanging around and an equal number of customers. We only stayed a few minutes and then we took off. We found out later that all of the girls were down in the rooms sleeping because it was so dead. The lesson is that it pays to ask. Also almost any girl there will give you her number and meet you in her off hours. This is a good thing to do because FF is closed on Sunday and almost everything else is dead.
Another interesting place to check out is La Mansion. Some guy that used to be a customer at FF opened his own club. It is in a beautiful house and one girl said that on some nights there are 20-25 girls there, but the night that we went there was only about 6 an none of them appealed to me. It is across the street from the church in the Templete. I think that Frijole got a business card from the owner so check his report for the address and telephone number.
Other places I visited, but did not sample the wares: Calle 23 C. Norte No. 3AN-05 B. Versalles 661-7071 $35,000 one hour on site. Didn't see anything I liked. Pharaon and Dr. Love don't remember the addresses and didn't see anything I liked. There are any number of casas in Cali so have fun and be safe.
Medellin:
I missed out of a couple of days of hobbying in Medellin because una amiga took the bus in from Manizales to spend the weekend with me. So I am sure that Frijole's report on Medellin will be more informative than my own.
The places that I did visit:
Lutron: A large mansion in the hills in Poblado (check Frijole's report for the address and number, I think that he got a card.) $80,000 for an hour on site $160,000 for two hours in your hotel. You can also spend time in a private swimming pool with the girl of your choice of $70,000 an hour. Lutron is clean and very well run. Open from 11:00 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. Monday through Saturday. They have girls to meet any taste and every girl that I have ever been with there has been sweet, nice and attentive. The rooms are clean and each room has a different theme. They are thoroughly cleaned after every session. I highly recommend a visit and when your there ask for a tour of the premises, I am sure that you'll be impressed.
Casa Oriente: Again I don't have the address or phone number but Frijole may. Every cab driver we got knew were this place was. Only went there on night this trip there were between 45-50 girls there, something for everyone. To be truthful I don't know what the current rate is for on site, like FF one pair of clean sheets per night. The house fee to leave is $70,000 and the girl doesn't have to come back or $50,000 for a short time (2 hours) they won't tell you about the short time unless you ask. The going rate for the girls is $100k per hour. All of the girls there will give you there numbers for outside services and to avoid the house fee. This is a good idea again because most everything is closed on Sunday so pre-plan and get some numbers.
Energy: Cra 74 No. 49-101, Tel 436-1131: Nice house near downtown. Around 10 girls when I went there, one girl I found very attractive unfortunately there were three of us there and we couldn't find something for everyone so we moved on. $60,000 for an hour on site, $100,000 for two girls for an hour on site and $120,000 for two hours to go. They open at 9:00 a.m. but I don't know when they close.
Faces Dos: Again see Frijole's report for the address and telephone number. This is a warehouse that has been converted into a strip club. The night that I was there they had a nice selection of between 15-20 girls. $140,000 for a short time (30 mins.) in the cabanas next door. I asked the girl that I did for her number she said that she was going to get a pen and then give me her number I waited about ten minutes and she didn't come back so I took off.
We also searched for the Legendary CASA BLANCA. It is supposedly a large beautiful house in downtown Medellin. Despite our best efforts and those of several cab drivers we never found it. We did, however, get to see quite a bit of downtown Medellin at night. Unless you are looking to pick up a transvestite and/or become a stabbing victim stay away from downtown at night.
In my opinion the girls in Medellin, on a whole are more attractive. There's just something about a Paisa. But tastes very and any hobbyist could have a great time in either city. But always be aware of your environment and remain aware that Colombia is a dangerous place filled with desperate people.
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hola putos,
cali report:
i was in cali for about two weeks. i tried using the wsg to plan my attack but, found it quite frustrating because of all the bs on this site. thus, i hope the following helps members plan their future trips.
1) flores frescas:
a. address: see simple man’s report.
b. prices:
cover charge: $15,000.00 per person. beer costs $5,000 pesos. bottle of rum cost $40,000 with cokes, and ice included.
on site $ for an hour or until you blow, whichever comes first (this includes room and girl of your choice). offsite $50-70,000.00 pesos house fee to take girl out (i paid $70,000 and simple man only paid $50,000, i discussed the matter with simple man and it seems i was overcharged) and the girls charge between $100,000.00 to $200,000.00 per hour depending on your negotiation skills. i paid $100, 000.00 pesos per hour but, i did tell the girls, i wanted at least a 2hr session. i’m not sure if that helped me lower the price, and i always gave them a $20,000.00 peso tip. having been around, i know how important it is not to be labeled a cheapskate.
c. ladies: they have about 20 girls all shapes and sizes. most of the gals are between 19 years old and 25 years old (i’m guessing based on looks and personal experience). there were some that, i thought, were quite stunning and others that were quite ugly. overall the quality was to my satisfaction. most of the girls are 7 and 8s with a few 10s in the mix. most girls will give you their cell phone numbers for outside services, a good way to avoid paying the house fee.
d. premisses: the place is kinda dirty and dingy. the first night i went for the onsite 1hr package and i was disappointed when i saw the room. the room was dirty and smelled like cat [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. i would strongly recommend paying the club fine and taking the girl to your hotel. the club itself is located in a reasonably safe neighborhood and there is plenty of security at the club itself. flores frescas is a converted house. as you enter you are directed up several stair ways to the third floor where the dance floor is located. the rooms, for in-house services, are located on the second floor.
2) pharaon: near the cali river. walked and walked out. the gals were ugly and the place was not all that interesting. all i can say is, thank god there was no cover.
3) torre de cali: near the cali river. walked and walked out. the gals were ugly and the place was not all that interesting. all i can say is, thank god there was no cover.
4) la mansion:
address: located in the south side, by the iglesia del templete, in front of el templete park, cra. 36 no. 6-43, 6-49. tel. 514-1066
prices: there is a $15,000.00 peso cover charge. $10,000 of that is applied towards your bar tab. beer $5,000.
ladies: they had 5 girls and they were all fairly ugly. although, some of you pig fuckers might have been in heaven, i certainly was not. according to the owner they have a lesbian show there nightly but, only if they have a significant number of patrons. i was there with simple man and we were the only two customers they has thus, they told us there would be no lesby show. suffice it to say, i was glad considering how ugly the women were. i did not ask for any prices since, the women were not to my standards.
premises: this place is modeled after flores frescas. it’s a big house with many rooms and the dance floor/bar area is located in the third floor. the house is very nice and very clean. the only thing missing are the hot chicks.
5) kaliente:
address: calle 25 norte, no. 2 bis-47, b. san vicente (near chipichappe).
tel. (2) 653-6832.
prices: no cover charge. since i did not order anything to drink i’m not sure of the prices but, there is a list of prices on the left wall as you enter the location. they charge $60,000.00 for half an hour on-site with the lady of your choice, $80,000.00 for an hour, and $180,000.00 for 3 hours either in your hotel or on the premises.
ladies: they have about 12 to 15 girls daily. most of the gals there are very good looking and very nice. i strongly recommend this fine business establishment.
premises: the house is located in a relatively safe neighborhood. there are several other houses within a block or two. the establishment is open 24hours seven days a week. however, sunday the gals get the day off and working that day is voluntary. thus, sundays you may or may not find any girls working. the downstairs is devided into two separate areas where the customers are seated and the girls are brought out for show. the place was dirty and thus, i opted for the 3 hour services at my hotel.
6) other: if you are looking for a great place to stay that is affordable, i strongly recommend the hostal san fernando, calle 3 no. 27-87, zona sur, cali colombia, tel 556-4820. the rooms are clean and nice, the staff is great, and the prices are very reasonable. also, the owner rigoberto is a great source for information on the best clubs, house, and restaurants.
p.s. see my report on medellin if you are planning on hitting both cities.
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Great reports Frijole, Simple Man and NPaul. I specially like the fact that you provide us with addresses and phone numbers when possible.
NPaul, I went many times to Tanga Tangas. I think that they have a great selection. They are opened only after 7PM every day (except Sunday). I sadly do not have the address. As far as I remember, it's a little bit south of 70th and Pasoancho (on pasoancho). If going south, it will be on your left side, just after a chicken restaurant. You'll see a guy sitting outside in front of a garage. Get inside (no cover), 3 floors up, and in there there are 10-20 college girls waiting for you. It's a bit more expensive than other places. A beer runs for $5000 pesos and the girl is about $40000 for the half hour.
Freeze
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Hola Antifreeze,
I will be back in Cali in March (on my way to Sau Paulo). Do you have the address and phone number to Tanga Tanga. Unfortunately, several of the taxi cabs i was in did not have a clue where anything was located. Thus a physical address or a phone number would be greatly appreciated. Also, many places do not advertise in the Yellow Pages. Thanks!!!
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Thanks in advance to any answer to the following question :
I want maybe go to Cali instead of my usual trip to Sao Paulo, being more for the moment in the 'GFE' mood than in the strictly mongering trip with daily visits to bomboa, Cafe Photo and Love Story ....
I could arrive on 8th April, but realise 8th and 9th April are holidays in Colombia, and also that school holidays begin on 8th till 18th : so my question is : Is Cali desert during this long week end (regular beerbars and discos closed ?) and during those two weeks could non pro hunting be low ?
Cheers
Pro
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I believe that the April holyday that you refer to is 'semana santa'. Cali is a ghost town during that time. I am sorry to say that even I find it boring to stay in here. Non-pro chasing is a waste. The entire mistery resides in the fact that I do not have a clue where everyone goes!!! There must be a great party somewhere! But surely not in Cali.
Freeze
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Antifreeze, thanks, great and useful advice !!
Maybe the week following Semana Santa could be better ...
Cheers
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Before today I didn't really read too many reports. Maybe a few. I just read the entire Cali section. Interesting posts with many different opinions on the place. I just bought a ticket arriving in less than two weeks.
One thing that I think should be pointed out is that just because someone chooses to go to places like Fresca Flores doesn't ruin the market down there. Every city I've been to has their high end places that have always charged more and always will charge more. You can choose to stay and play or walk away. In all reality it's not going to change the market dynamics. In Buenos Aires it's Blacks, in Rio it's Barbarellas, in Lugano-Switzerland it's Cava. Sometimes it's a rip off and sometimes it's just more expensive. Like I said, it doesn't really change the market as a particular segment of the hobbying segment frequents such places anyway.
I agree with one poster when he said that sometimes girls will blackball you if they think you are super cheap. I couldn't believe someone offered 30 cents tip and asked for change. That is unreal to me. Whether we want to think of it or not, the girls that work in these clubs are offering a commodity. Prices are dictated by supply and demand. I always treat these girls like the princesses they are and have always been rewarded handsomely.
Anyway, it sounds like Leo was correct that it isn't the best place for P2P but the amatuer scene sounds fun. I've met up with him in Buenos Aires and Rio and we have similar tastes in girls. I'll check out the action and hope it's fun. I normally can have fun wherever I'm at though. I've hobbied now extensively in the USA, border towns of Mexico, interior of Mexico, Canada, Argentina, Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba and several countries in Western Europe. Every trip has been an adventure.
This Hotel San Fernando... Can someone give me an accurate idea of how comfortable the rooms are. What about the Dann Hotel? Is there a website link for the Dann Hotel?
I noticed Slick1 posted he got a regular non-sexual massage. Are there many good massage places with professional masseuses? If so, what is the name and address? I don't see it listed in the reports. Nothing beats a daily massage to get the day started right.
Also, will my GSM phone work down there? Can you buy a SIM card for an unlocked GSM phone and if so how much and where do you buy it? Thanks in advance. I'll post a detailed post as usual upon return.
Saint
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If you are looking to find a true amatuer (GF) in Cali you should be prepared to spend a lot of time in Cali and don't expect to get laid right off the bat. I spoke with a lot of guys down there who were under the impression that they were dating nice amatuer girls. These guys almost all had the same story, multiple shopping sprees, family dinners, being stood up for dates, waiting around for their novias to call and waiting for sex because she is such a nice girl. Then when you talk to the locales you find out that your friend's "novia" attaches hereself to every turista that comes along. Maybe I'm a little cynical, because I have actually been down that path, but I call these girls semi-pros. They usually cost you more than an actual pro and you don't get what you are paying for, sex. I don't think that you are going to meet a nice Colombian girl hanging out at the beer kiosk at the mall. You're going to meet a golddigging semi-pro, but as long as you know the score, and are playing her while she's playing you, have fun. That being said, Cali is a great P2P locale if you speak some spanish and have a sense of adventure you can find new casas every day of your trip with chicas to satisfy everyone's taste.
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Hola Saint,
Well I respectfully disagree that Cali is not a great place for P2P. I've been to various country's in latin america (Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil, Mexico, ect.) In my humble opinion Cali is agreat place to go meet the working "ladies". There is a casa with hot young chicas on nearly every block. The most expensive places charge between 100-150 pesos an hour (35-45 US). Some casas have 18-20 year old gals with little experience in the business and some charge as little as $15 US per hr. for in-house services. Most of the Colombianas you meet in other countries first did the Colombian Circuit (Cali, Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota, ect.) prior to their travels. Thus, in my opinion the gals in Colombia seem less jaded than those you meet in say Panama. Plus, in places like Panama, the gals all seem to have the same routine which, to be quite honest gets old quick.
As for meeting nice gals I would agree with Simple Man. However, if you do meet a gal you want to spend time with take her to Zona Rosa or Avenida Sexta ( where you will find lots of great, but affordable, restaurants, discos, and bars). Good Luck!!!
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Thanks for the advice. I doubt I'll have problems. I can play the "game" with the best of them. You will never find me waiting around on a girl to call. Ha, ha. That is hilarious. I was on Amigos.com a while back and had tons of Columbian girls emailing me but all were seriously looking for a gringo husband. I'm not looking for that. I plan on being honest and telling them I want to 'butterfly' around.
I'm sure it will be a good adventure. I'm going down for 5 nights so that should be enough time to get a feel for the place. Thanks.
Saint
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Ok fellas,
I am in Panama City now and it looks like I am going to be taking a trip to Cali in mid to late march. In Panama City the chicas show me SOME love but it definitely isnt what I expected. Probably because of the strong US influence in Panama (dammit) and the fact that I look like I am from Panama. BUT anyhow, I will be there in mid to late March and would love to hook up with some of you guys out there so I don't waste my time "learning to ropes". I am aleady sent some of you PM's. Any random info would be appreciated. Oh, and if any of you are coming to Panama city let me know, I'll brief you on what I know about the happenings here.
Wish me luck
Ok, enclosed is a pro out here in Panama. I included this pic because im hoping the chics in Cali look much better then she does.
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Saint
I had a good non sexual massage arranged at the gym in the Intercontinental. I think I paid about 22k pesos for 45 min- 1 hour. It was very good. Also there is an Estetica up the hill from the Intercontinental. As you face the lobby, it's on the right side of the hotel. Had another good massage from a very cute girl. Also then went for the total body fruit salad treatment. This was pretty bizarre as 2 girls basically turned me into a human fruit salad. It did feel good though and I smelled great. Just don't forget to wash the oatmeal and honey out of your ears or you will be surprised when you go to brush your hair. This place was a bit pricier, but cheap by our standards. Cali has plenty of places to pamper yourself and it is a good way to kill a couple hours. Also the spas and hair salons are full of hot women that love it when a stranger pays a visit. I think its part of the reason the Colombianas look so good. they do take care of themselves. Had a great time getting a haircut at the salon on top of the hill as well. Enjoy the trip.