Lima

[QUOTE=Artisttyp]Is there any concern in lima about the 600+ who escaped from the prison in chincha? [/QUOTE]This could be problematic if they set up a big operation to recapture the convicts. Roadblocks and armed police everywhere, it occured once in the Cameroons after a major escape.

Another problem in the next few weeks could be the shortage of hospital care and emergency health services. Better stay out of harm's way in Lima.

[QUOTE=DanceBert]Geologists are able to estimate the subjective nature of a quake as a function of distance and what the ground is made of. Here is a 'shakemap' of the quake.

[url]http://preview.*******.com/ytyu8h[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Doesn't seem like Lima really got much of it. Scary to think of, though.

[QUOTE=Giggity]What the [url=http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/shakemap/global/shake/2007gbcv/]USGS "Shakemap"[/url] shows is the local intensity according to the "Modified Mercalli Intensity Scale", which describes the subjective effects of an earthquake in a particular area. It's arguably a more useful scale for people unconcerned with geology, as it tells you roughly what the earthquake actually did to people and structures.[/QUOTE]

Again, thanks for the useful info on this. As someone who had toyed with the idea of buying an apartment in Lima, this would cause a bit of worry about doing so.

Does anyone know what the construction standards are for mid and high rise buildings in Lima, earthquake wise?

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Does anyone know what the construction standards are for mid and high rise buildings in Lima, earthquake wise?[/QUOTE]Actually several questions, really.
1. what are the codes?
2. are they followed ?
3. what are the inspection standards?
4. Upon what kind of soil is the edificio built (very, very important). This dramatically affects the kinds of measures needed to withstand quakes.

A place can have the tightest codes in the world, but it they're not followed or if inspectors are easily bought off, then the system fails. Buildings built in soft soil are very vulnerable, those on solid rock, like Manhattan, less so.

I've toyed with the idea of buying a place also and want to investigator further but terromoto safety was always in the back of my mind.

If in richter scale, it was an 8.0 at the epicenter, a subjective guess is that Lima got at least a 6-6.5, based on Rosita's descriptions, which sounds a lot like the experiences of my SF friends in the 1989 quake. Amazing that sidewalks can roll, no? Distance may not mean that much also - in the 89 quake, the epicenter was in San Jose, 40 miles south of SF, very similar to this quake (but only a 7.0). However, scientists discovered that the some of the seismic shocks went down, hit a harder layer in the earth's crust, and bounced back up, hitting SF and Oakland. The folks in the marsh area of the Marina district of SF got creamed, the rest of the city was OK. Will never forget the stories of the people crushed under the collapsed Nimitz freeway. Some lived. I don't like stopping underneath overpasses.

I've been to XXXGoat's 11th floor apartment in Lima, and his descriptions bode well for a miraflores structures. Bottom line, any city in or near the pacific rim of fire, is an investment with this risk built in. When I bought my house, I checked into the soil characteristics in my barrio, an important check to do. The question is, can you live with that risk?

My heart goes out to the people of ICA and Pisco.

I've gotta side with Gonzo on this one. Building codes don't mean squat if they aren't followed (and they won't be if they cause the cost of design and construction to get too high), so it might be better not to focus on regulations

Rather, instead of placing your faith in the local government licensing agency (which could [i]never[/i] be paid off by cost-cutting construction firms), focus on the structural integrity of individual buildings that you find appealing. Perhaps you could pay a seismologist and/or civil engineer to look at buildings for you. That's what I did here in Los Angeles after the 1994 Northridge earthquake.

I'm sorry for continuing to add to this off-topic conversation... perhaps a "Earthquake Safety in Peru" section could be added to the forum?

[QUOTE=Gonzo]Actually several questions, really.
1. what are the codes?
2. are they followed ?
3. what are the inspection standards?
4. Upon what kind of soil is the edificio built (very, very important). This dramatically affects the kinds of measures needed to withstand quakes.

A place can have the tightest codes in the world, but it they're not followed or if inspectors are easily bought off, then the system fails. Buildings built in soft soil are very vulnerable, those on solid rock, like Manhattan, less so.

I've toyed with the idea of buying a place also and want to investigator further but terromoto safety was always in the back of my mind.

If in richter scale, it was an 8.0 at the epicenter, a subjective guess is that Lima got at least a 6-6.5, based on Rosita's descriptions, which sounds a lot like the experiences of my SF friends in the 1989 quake. Amazing that sidewalks can roll, no? Distance may not mean that much also - in the 89 quake, the epicenter was in San Jose, 40 miles south of SF, very similar to this quake (but only a 7.0). However, scientists discovered that the some of the seismic shocks went down, hit a harder layer in the earth's crust, and bounced back up, hitting SF and Oakland. The folks in the marsh area of the Marina district of SF got creamed, the rest of the city was OK. Will never forget the stories of the people crushed under the collapsed Nimitz freeway. Some lived. I don't like stopping underneath overpasses.

I've been to XXXGoat's 11th floor apartment in Lima, and his descriptions bode well for a miraflores structures. Bottom line, any city in or near the pacific rim of fire, is an investment with this risk built in. When I bought my house, I checked into the soil characteristics in my barrio, an important check to do. The question is, can you live with that risk?

My heart goes out to the people of ICA and Pisco.[/QUOTE]
I have some firefighter friends who came down with an NGO to build a church in Tacna. After they finished they decided to unwind in Lima for a few weeks.

They were both working during the "Northridge" earthquake and told me for them this earthquake was alot stronger. In fact they were sure it was the end.

I was speaking to our resident "Geophysicist monger" who tells me Lima is built on Granite "which is good news" But a direct hit of 8.0 in Lima is stiil a direct hit and even though my building and alot of newer construction is anti-seismic
and built into the bedrock "We do not use springs or rollers" underneath.

The bigger fear for many is not the earthquake but the Tsunami. The night of the earthquake many of us were at Cafe Z, half-expecting the Pacific to come up Bajada Balta.

While I love Lima and will continue to invest here, it is not a decision to take lightly. Like the stock market or anything that entails "risk",Never invest more than you can afford to lose. I know many guy's that are contemplating it as prices are still tempting (even at 50% growth last 2 years), I think if you can't afford a house/Condo (with land) you are better off looking elsewhere than buying an apartment which could end up having no value.

Some of us are looking into "buying land" and building a condo project in a area with less risk and better climate then say "Miraflores".

Meanwhile, all of us in Lima will still wait for "the big one" that "WILL" eventually come.

South America's west coast is a segment of the circum-Pacific seismic belt, where more than two-thirds of the world's large-magnitude earthquakes occur. The rugged Andes and offshore Peru-Chile trench have been the breeding ground for devastating earth disturbances for centuries past. The evidence, earthquakes in Colombia-Venezuela, 1875, claimed 16,000 victims; Ecuador, 1797, 41,000; Peru, 1746, 5,000; and Chile, 1939, 30,000.

Peru's earthquake annals date back over 400 years, to 1553, but the first descriptive account of a strong shock tells of a terremoto that killed 30 people and destroyed much of Arequipa in 1582.

The most deadly earthquake in Peru's history before 1970 struck Lima in October 1746. At least 5,000 persons were killed, many of them when a seismic seawave (tsunami) swept the coast. Because of the Lima earthquake, there is an annual festical of the Miracle Christ in Peru, and to this day, the custom of wearing purple during the month of October is observed in commemoration of that event.

During the next 200 years, the most destructive shocks in Peru centered in and south of the Callao-Lima area, causing much damage in Camaná, Callao, Abancay, and Yanaoca.

[url]http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/peru/history.php[/url]

The following overviews represent some of the world's most notable earthquakes.

1970 Peru Earthquake

Southern Peru experienced a magnitude 8.1 earthquake on May 31, 1970. Its epicenter was located about 600 km southeast of Lima along the boundary between the subducting Nazca plate and the South American Plate. Loss of life was estimated at 66,000 people, 200,000 were left homeless, and $530,000 in damages was incurred in the surrounding areas. Landslides and rockslides in the Andes blocked highways and engulfed homes. Many villages that were located along the coast and in the foothills of the mountains were completely destroyed, either by falling debris or rising water brought on by a 2 m tsunami. Tremors from the quake were felt through much of Peru, northern Chile, and parts of Bolivia.

[url]http://www.leo.lehigh.edu/projects/seismic/summary.html[/url]

We dropped by Tequilas the other night and noticed that some of the girls were hanging by the door with there coats in their laps. This is the Peruvian version of "earthquake preparedness". They are not to happy being downstairs with the daily aftershocks so they will cut prices to get out of their early.
LB

[QUOTE=Lima Busy]...... They are not to happy being downstairs with the daily aftershocks so they will cut prices to get out of there early....LB[/QUOTE] LB - Not wishing to take advantage of a bad situation, is there any chance you can keep the aftershocks going for another 14 days please?

Thanks!

Polvo

Well Bros. I've been in Lima for almost 3 months nowand heres the skiinny:

I love the hell out of it!

The food is delicious, the women are highly approachable and the place is big enough to keep me busy for the year Iwill be here.

Went to Cucaradas, and it was a hit. My overall strrategy was to go between shifts and pick up one as they were leaving, it worked and got a 6 hour session for 50 soles. Nice work, plus she was nice. Its weird because prostitution is not the same here as in the US. Their its made to be dirty and usually mixed with the drug trade but not so in Lima. A regular girl that is down on her luck one week wiill do it and to me its respectablle. As the say "asi es la vida". The US really has a culture of fear and I didn't realize it to the extent that it is until this trip to Lima, I'll probably will never move back to the states, its just too many hangups in the US.

I've visited Tequila rock, both of them, in Miiraflores and San Miguel. The one in Miraflores I was hesitant but went anyway, they are a bunch of certifiable money grubbing pros! I picked one up anyway because of a reccuring hard on, got a TLN foor 250 soles, she was ok but made some disparaging coments about men in a joking way so I don't know if sheell be invited back but she was a great session. The one in San Miguel is a totally diffrent stoory, they acctually dance there! I picked up a two girl session for 100 soles and on another vsisit picked up some non-pro numbers. The two girls session were semi-pros. The place is off the hook I highly reccomend it as opposed to Tequilas in Miraflores. Just catch the "s" combi from avenida Jose Pardo for 1 sole or take a taxi too Plaza san Miguel and tell the cobrador "abajo Plaza san miguel"

I've met multiple non-pros on the street by asking for directions. Its weird you strike up a conversatiion get their number and somehow we end up in bed. Everyday I say "I died and woke up in heaven" this shit is incrediible. I even have regular girlfriend in La Molina, lets face it fellas, mongers need love too right?

I'm spending alot of time in centro de lima. You can find some incredible women their. One of the most beutiful women I've ever done was picked up there for a whopping 20 soles. The session was kinda mechanical but for 20 soles Id pay that to see her naked. I also go into many of the bars down their, my strategy remains the same and it usually works, I talk to them and get their number or I find out when they get off and get a TLN foor about 50 soles.

Havent been to the TRoc yet but I'll make my way there.

I'm planning somewhat of a tour through chiclayo, laberyaque, trujillo. Piura, tumbes, Guayaquill and Quito Ecuador so I'll keep you guys in the loop.

Iquitos is on my radar too.

All in all I arrived on September 5 with 48 rubbers and I used my last one in about 2. 5 months so you do the math. Gota love it here.

During the "house quake" I was in my departament waiting for a call girl to arriive, after she arrived the session was even better in a strange sort of way.

I've been highly successful using the websites, I generally date non-pros with some semi-pros thrown in their. Usually if I do do pros and I try to pay no more that 100 soles total because I date them after working hours or get their number, the sessions are usually longer, they gve more of a GFE and its cheaper. And yes I am a budget monger.

I've met some really nice and helpful people in lima and generally in love with the overall culture, but I can't seem to get used to their tardiness. Thats a stickler for me especially when youve got a date planned and she shows up on peruvian time and thinks nothing of it. But ohh well!

Onward and upward young men!

Later Vaughnyb1

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[QUOTE=Vaughnyb1]All in all I arrived on September 5 with 48 rubbers and I used my last one in about 2. 5 months so you do the math. [/QUOTE]

Interesting post, but if you arrived Sept 5th, then you've been there for almost a year, or you posted the wrong month of arrival.

In my country is 15

It´s 18 for participating in sexual content.

I have been chatting for months with a girl, who she said she was 18, but then I discovered she was only 16. Even her mother lied, saying she was 17, soon 18....

For me 18, is to young, even if legal. I´m 33, and dont want to be pressured for money for having sex with a minor, or spend like 10 years in a Peruvian prison....

I have a Q; what says the law... and I have a advice; if a girl claims to be older than she is, especeillay very young one´s is into this....follow the Peruvian law, claim her DSI/ID before having sex. A trick might be saying I´m 18, and then she is not and then she can pressure you on a lot of money, especially if co-operating with a police officer.

Recently I got 2 of them removed from [url]www.latinamericancupid.com[/url] , but there are a huge amout of these girls on Match, Cupid etc, and I think the pattern is the same at the club and bars where these money-hungry girls hang out.

18 is an absolut minimum.

Mongers, even though , buying sex, must have ethical rules.

I hope LB can give a comment on this issue.

Regards/M7

Opps June 5th, arrival. A misprint.

[QUOTE=Mer07]In my country is 15

It´s 18 for participating in sexual content.

I have been chatting for months with a girl, who she said she was 18, but then I discovered she was only 16. Even her mother lied, saying she was 17, soon 18....

For me 18, is to young, even if legal. I´m 33, and dont want to be pressured for money for having sex with a minor, or spend like 10 years in a Peruvian prison....

I have a Q; what says the law... and I have a advice; if a girl claims to be older than she is, especeillay very young one´s is into this....follow the Peruvian law, claim her DSI/ID before having sex. A trick might be saying I´m 18, and then she is not and then she can pressure you on a lot of money, especially if co-operating with a police officer.

Recently I got 2 of them removed from [url]www.latinamericancupid.com[/url] , but there are a huge amout of these girls on Match, Cupid etc, and I think the pattern is the same at the club and bars where these money-hungry girls hang out.

18 is an absolut minimum.

Mongers, even though , buying sex, must have ethical rules.

I hope LB can give a comment on this issue.

Regards/M7[/QUOTE]
The minimum age for prostitution in Peru is and will always be 18 and a current health certificate, end of subject!

Hey guys, I'm heading to Peru for my first time, and will be there for 2 weeks. I hear I should definitely visit Cusco and Machu Pichu, and Arequepos (sp?). I'm going to meet a girl in Lima that I met through a dating service, so that may or may not work out. It seems that there is plenty of good action in Lima if it doesn't work out. My question is how many days would you recommend spending in Lima, given that I have 2 weeks total. I hear there isn't much to do or see there, and if things don't work out with the girl I don't want to be stuck and bored. I have to book my hotel with a check out date so I have to decide now how long to stay in Lima. Any suggestions?

Thanks!