Sofia

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This is the way to go if you want to always take the girls back to your room.

Hi to all,

Back in Bulgaria, after several years.

Thinks seems to change a lot compared with the previous years (I mean 92 to 96).

So I am currently in Kempinsky Zografski. Old value

I noticed that there is a strip joint in the basement (I think Dolls) can some one advise info for the place?

Thanks a lot

[QUOTE=Grestal]Hi to all,

Back in Bulgaria, after several years.

Thinks seems to change a lot compared with the previous years (I mean 92 to 96). So I am currently in Kempinsky Zografski. Old value

I noticed that there is a strip joint in the basement (I think Dolls) can some one advise info for the place?

Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]. Just go down and look for ya self? WTF!

LS Guy

[QUOTE=Glonoinum][QUOTE=Ulrico]I think that is Scam site. Is too much similar to many other and so leave sofia-escort. It's a pity, the girls are very, very gorgeous, a little bit to much to be truth![/QUOTE]

It is real!
My experiences are unforgettable....!

Any way: If you are willing to have some excellent service and have exiting time to dedicate to yourself… I believe the two ladies are worth all the money they ask for.

[QUOTE=LifeSavour]. Just go down and look for ya self? WTF!

LS Guy[/QUOTE]

My friend that’s what I did. Just to discover that is just an other well advertised ,promising rip off …
And the things seems to go far more than a lap dance but the bill can go up to 4 digits figures .

For your info , the forum exists to exchange information for our beloved hobby not to behave the way you behave …



Have a bandit day …

I travel in Sofia quite often so I believe I have as updated information as possible. No need to mention that the triangle of success in Sofia stripclubs is Kamasutra, Cleopatra, Velvet, while Taboo and playboy used to be and still are ripoffs. The usual price there (CLeopatra etc) for taking a girl out in all three clubs used to be 100BGN/hour (app 50EUR). However, since the end of last year prices have increased to 120BGN/hour (app 60EUR). Despite that things are pretty clear, you pay the amount to the manager and have the girl at your Hotel or in the back room for an additional 20BGN.

In the other two ripoff clubs girls promised to deliver "everything" in private rooms just keeping you consuming expensive lady drinks and private dances.

When I was in Cleopatra in December (things get very packed there nowadyas) they had a girl that asked to perform a dance to me (quite arrousing one) and during that she proposed to go back to the room for private time (no sex). When I aked her about sex she said that she is only a "dancer" but she would do an exception for me if I paid her 200EUR / hour and of course did not say enything to the manager. The whole story sounded quite suspicious to me and refused. I also got the impression that Cleopatra had already started mimicking the prictices of Taboo and Playboy or Fetish ripoff clubs. However, I considered the incident unique and did not pay any further attention.

Since January 2008, I visited Sofia twice. First time I was very busy and had no time to go to the clubs. However the second time I visited again the famous triangle and also tried to get some girl out. In Kamasutra girls that I new were willing to go out till the end of 2007 are pretending now to be only dancers. Others that would be available, could only go in the room at the back and are not free to leave to the hotel. Of course some girls are also available for outcalls but less than before. Later on I visit Velvet, quality of girls is by far below average, I finish my drink and leave early. Finally Cleopatra, where first of all I get again the impression of a change plus I find another girl, tryning to drag me to the private room for (no sex) session. Eventually I try to call the manager to assist me with which of the girls would be willing do an outcall and I get the reply "Sorry, Mister, You talk girl, I give no information). Of course this means that in order to talk to the girl you need to buy her a drink (expensive) or get a private dance. Only to find out at the end that she is not available for sex and she is only a "dancer"

I was really diappointed and left. Outside a driver proposed to take me to a tour at the privats (vip, contessa, bohemy etc) where you could find something interesting. I agree we go to a couple of them I choose on girl and I get the price of 170BGN non negotiable, when it used to be between 75-100 last year.

I would like other fellow members who have visited Sofia recently to share with the rest of us their recent experiences. Did they observe similar behaviour or any change since last year. I hope that night I had was only a sequence of unlikely events and that things are back o normal.

I am really looking forward to comments others.

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I was also really disappointed whats happen now in cleopatra.

But. I find a nice one on this page during a internet surf.

[url]http://www.all-bgescort.com[/url]

Good luck and forget the ripp-offs from the crazy bulgarian pimps.

Atduffyduck:

Regarding Cleopatra you are right. Things changed. Outcall is now 120. The girl which offered you to "make an exception" is only one. She offered me once a dance where "I could come" but no sex for 100lv. On my laugh and statement, that I get real sex for that price with any other girl she stated she does no sex. Sex with her "quality girl" would be 400 EUR. !

I had her lapdance for 20 and leave.

Also I can confirm the manager saying "talk to the girls". Even thoug Hi am frequent visitor since two years, she said that. Anyway I do not see a problem in that. Its not necessary to buy a dring, just get up and walk over to the girls, talk to any. That is meant by that. I think she is just fed up negotiating all the time between girls and guests.

Anyway its still my favorite club, also to relax with a cocktail or two. No rip off, never have been cheated there. Also the waitresses are very friendly and take care (not available at all).

Since January they have some new girls and one just colored their hair from blond to black which gives them a complete new look.

But. Remember, avoid Cleopatra. Too many of you will destroy prices and my favorite location ist gone.

Blackjack14,

I agree with you that usually Cleopatra is one of the favourites in Sofia. I have been visiting since Summer 05 and I am a little bit upset that they are not that helpful anymore regarding with the manager. I hope you are right and we do not end up in a situation where we kiss goodbye Sofia as a mongering destination.

Probably it was an unlucky night that I experienced and I got all interpreted wrong.

I visited Sofia over the last few days and I have to say that I'm a tad disappointed, not just with the striptease clubs but with the scene more generally. Of course, adding to my predicament, I relied almost totally on two lists both of which turned out to be totally useless: one listing the "sex clubs" (massage parlours etc.) downloaded from a "visit Bulgaria" site; another written by myself taking down the phone numbers of about 15 escort girls from [url]www.all-bgescort.com[/url]. Further to this later.

On my first evening I was dirt tired and just wanted a quick look at the (in)famous Luvov Most (Lion Bridge) and Maria Luiza street before going to sleep. I have to say that juding from older postings on this thread on would think that this part of Sofia is littered with street walkers, jostling for one's custom. Not so! (Have all the cheap girls been trafficked abroad?) The largest number of girls I saw at any one point in time was four, only two of whom moderately attractive. But, on the first evening I came across a slim, young woman - very dark skinned but apparently no Gypsy. She wanted 50 lev for F&S plus 10 for the hotel. OK, I accepted. Inside the room, she tried to unzip my fly and begin a BJ with her fully dressed and me with my trousers on half mast. I told her, no way, and got into a lengthy argument. In the end she accomodated me and got undressed. The service was... passable in the end, that's all. But I should be realistic: 25 euros is one of the cheapest fucks anywhere in Europe these days.

On the second day I tried to find any of the sex clubs on the list. The site where I found it (name witheld to save others the annoyance) purported to be updated end-2006, but this must be untrue: not one of their addresses pointed to real clubs. Some had been converted to office suites. Others had been demolished. The only funny incident took place on Pirotska Street where the address on my list got me into a small hole-in-the-wall beer bar - almost certainly illegal, but cosy and with good and cheap beer. The young waitress wearing a miniskirt (but alas with an unattractive face) at first made me think I had found what I was looking for and I eyed her with more interest that what is usually considered polite. By the time I had realised my mistake she had made one of her own. Having taken notice of my interest she was clearly warming to the idea of landing herself a wealthy foreign boyfriend. I made my excuses and slithered out. ;-) Later, outside Fetish Club I ran into "George" who runs an escort service called "Perfect". He gave me his business card and suggested I give him a call, should I feel the need.

On the second night I did a tour of the three golden striptease haunts, Cleopatra, Kamasutra and Velvet. Kamasutra was, however, packed and I didn't stay. Like other posters I had some trouble in Cleopatra. I agree that it's the most charming of the three clubs with its intimate little stages and some of the dancers performing true acrobatics. However, I seem to notice that they're not hot on single foreigners - their business concept is clearly small groups of boisterous and free-spending local guys (remember: in this country thrift is considered equal to perniciousness). After turning down a couple of offers of lap dances (one girl wanted a hefty extra price - but then she did look at most 18 and could hardly walk on her high heels so was probably a novice) a manager came and asked me whether I wanted to buy something (I'd already bought three beers...) or I'd just come to "express disapprovement". Well, I hadn't expressed disapprovement - except with being over charged - but they clearly wanted me to splurge or leave, and my foreignness probably added to the irritation. The girls at Velvet were more beautiful, and here I finally bought a private dance (priced up from 10 to 20 leva for my sake...) from a slim 22 yo blonde. She caught my eye because she combined a rather large natural rack with her slim waist - very rare in this country. She would come with me to my hotel for 120 lev per hour or I could rent a room upstairs. I wanted to negotiate a premium service and asked her about BBBJ. She was appalled: "I never do that. Never! Are you crazy?" OK, OK, easy now. I explained that it's a bit difficult for me to get excited with a plastic straitjacked on my soft ****, but if she'd agree to do some extra caresses and a few French kisses we'd surely manage. She got even more appalled: "You sick fuck! I'll not kiss you. Never!" I said, I didn't expect her to do it for nothing, but surely for an extra price we could negotiate? She pointed to her colleagues - who were now following the conversation - and snarled: "you ask anyone none will kiss you, none will suck you without preservative. If you're not satisfied, leave!" Well, she was lying. Some girls at Velvet do these things - but of course she might not know. I followed her advice and left. After that scene her colleagues would be bound by sister solidarity not to be too nice to me.

The next morning I phoned "George", asking him if he could provide a girl for that same afternoon. She needn't be all that pretty, just friendly and prepared to provide something like a girlfriend service, and I'll book her for two hours (90 euros). No problem, except George warned me he hotel I stayed in (Hotel Rodina) bleeds a standard 50 leva out of visiting girls (they have their own, ridiculously overpriced, nightclub to protect...) which I would have to cover as well. George was honest in his sort of way to the point where he actually phoned me at 3.07 pm (the girl should have been there at 3 pm) and apologised for a slight delay: "Maria" would be there in 4-5 minutes. She was. Now, Maria was not your classic Balkan beauty; around 28 yo, dark tanned skin and with stretch marks after at least one birth one could do much better, but I figured, hey, one often gets the best service by girls who are not mannequins and full of themselves. However, Maria was disappointing in bed. Following the thread from the night before I tried to steal a little kiss, whereupon she turned her head 90 degrees signalling nooo WAY. Further, while I was still lying there not prepared for anything she unwrapped a condom and, when I protested meekly that I wasn't ready, told me patiently (she wasn't sharp or anything - not like the girl at Velvet...) that "you not wear this I not touch you. You understand?" I understood, but in the end I only managed a very half-hearted ejaculation following which I told her that I didn't need the second hour of her services - and would she please leave. In a friendlier version of the previous night's discussions she was very surprised and explained (here we go again...) that the services I crave are not generally available - not even for extra money.

The rest of the afternoon I spent phoning to the numbers I had on the "second list" - namely the independent escorts available from BG escort sites. Out of 15, five had gone out of service, seven did not bother to pick up their phones, two hung up when I asked if they could speak English/French/German/Spanish or any f***ing language other than their own, and the last number had a male receptionist who tried to speak Spanish with me but to little effect. Now, that's privateering for you: most girls start working only from 8 pm, but in almost any other country I know they'd have a custodial service answering their phone whether 9 am or 2 pm. In the end I got so desparate that I re-phoned George. Predictably he was defensive, expecting me to complain, but I told him that no-no I want to order another girl, which cheered him up no end. Only... this time, could he please provide a girl who allows me to kiss her? He stuttered: "Kiss? Where do you want to kiss? Her body?" I laughed, "no stupid, on her mouth of course". George got even more flustered, "her lips? No, that's not possible. Not with any girl." I was getting a bit angry, "this is a normal service. I'm not asking for SM or anything!" He assured me that "maybe in other countries, but Bulgarian girls don't like these things". (With the benefit of hindsight, I think George was running a down-market operation passing street h**kers and massage girls off for real escorts.)

This was the point where I phoned my airline office and asked if they could get me out of Sofia right away! They couldn't.

In the evening I finally stumbled onto a piece of good luck. After dinner I happened to notice a doorway on the Vitosha Street that looked like the sort of walkup where one would expect to find "services". One of the doorbells read "Contessa". Huh??? Contessa was one of the sex clubs on my first list, but it appeared under another street number. For the record, it's 16, ul. Vitosha - and I was beginning to wonder whether my list had been edited by the Marx brothers!!! I jerked the bellpull and climbed the stairs. The club was well staffed with some 8 girls on selection. I was seated on a couch and they all came to sit around me: take your pick, sir. I picked "Vili", an ultraslim 21 yo shorthaired girl - not because she was the prettiest, but because she looked the keenest to secure my custom. The price was 100 leva for one hour in a private room, complete with shower, etc. I accepted and, having been suitably humbled by the previous two days' experiences, resigned myself to a clean suck-and-fuck with protection and without any "warmth". - And so it began. But after about 3 minutes of covered BJ Vili looked up at me (a faint "plop" was heard...) and said "you seem troubled by the condom? You want to add a little money for without condom?" Yes I did and I gave her 50 leva on the spot. She stripped me of the rubber and began to suck so vigourously that, without having planned it, within a few more minutes I exploded. I mean, literally exploded. Well, I certainly hadn't paid her for CIM, but she swallowed a couple of times and then smiled camaradely at me: "Good boy! You needed that, yes?"

Yeah... it was "a relief". So much of a relief that, there and then, I booked Vili for a four hours session (300 leva = 150 euros) on the following - and my last - night in Sofia. I figured we'd go out for dinner at 8 pm and then go to my hotel together. And so we did. The silly thing was, Vili may have been the friendliest ho I've come across for a long time, but she is also one of the most primitive. I took her to a good restaurant and she declared that she was not hungry (I came to understand that her awake hours are 3 pm to 7 am, so she had just had her breakfast...) and merely ordered a snack of dried beef and a couple of huge whiskeys. - There went my chance of pretending she was my date; all the waiters were eyeing me conspiratorcally and one waitress with plain disapproval. But, at least, the dinner scheme helped me with one problem: the access restrictions at Hotel Rodina. With me at her arm security let her walk into the hotel without a problem. In my hotel room Vili gladly accepted an extra 100 levas for French kissing, DATY and BBBJ. The only problem was (HER problem, not mine ;-)) that I'd built myself up so much over the frustrating days that I worked her like I were on blue pills. After I finally mounted her it was close to 40 minutes of constant pounding in different positions. After the deed she wailed on about the effects I had had on her "work tools". Her **** was quite swollen, in fact. An obvious second purpose of this whining was of course getting out of having to do a second term. Given the time (11.20 pm) and the fact that I was quite tipsy I consented to let her go.

Well, summing up I must curse myself for placing too much confidence in open Internet sources. Had it not been for my stroke of luck with Contessa my few days in Sofia would have been the worst mongering experience ever! But still... this is a city that I do not need to see again.

Was in Sofia yesterday. Forget about "Lvov Most": not much happening there. Priamos is right that many clubs have moved: my favourite with the red bell button left as well: the button is now black and an additional paper warns that it is a "consulting company", so I did not ring it. I stayed in Pliska hotel for 65 Leva including breakfast; the guards (guys in blue uniform) have a deal with a pimp and they will have you a choice of 3 girls within 10 minutes flat: you make your choice, pay him Euro 50 and off you go. I suppose the company of the girl gets the regular 60 Lev, the girl her 30 and the hotel guy the balance. Try to bargain him down: he might do it for 80 Lev, because he started by asking me 120 Leva.

Girls are good looking, young, but as the last reporter said: only cbj, no kissing, no hands on pussy (although one after some stroking and fondling of her breasts started panting a bit and allowed me to play with her clit) and as soon as you come they jump up, wash and are off. But. Safer and cleaner than messing around Lion's bridge!

Did anyone ever visit a club called Yalta in the city of Sofia?

And I also heard about a quarter in the city where all the students live and go out? anyone has any info on this as well?

Thanks

Are there any freelancer at the daytime; cafes etc.
Safariman; if i pay i do with my hand what i want; and she blow what i want;
otherwise i say no and drink beer; ridicolous that the prostitute make the rules;
WE are the customers

[QUOTE=Keesjenl]Did anyone ever visit a club called Yalta in the city of Sofia?

And I also heard about a quarter in the city where all the students live and go out? anyone has any info on this as well?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I haven't been to yalta. You are looking for "Studenski Grad".

Some hints for nightlive can be found in [post]626239[/post] Thi swas my previous report.