Seoul

Went to Jangan-dong last week about 9pm. Walked up and down the street on both sides and was largely ignored by the touts.

Started trying a few places with discreet entrances, as I feel very conspicuous as a white guy, and I know people who live in that area.

Last time I was charged 140,000won for a sub-standard girl in a rundown place, and I was detrnined not to be overcharged again.

Kyu Anma refused me, telling me that I was "too large" in Korean. The guy seemed very nervous, and could hardly look at me.

King Anma quoted me 180,000 and the best I could bargain for was 170,000 so I left. The guy told me they all charge 180,000, but I decided to see for myself.

Next I went to 39 Anma, where the guy welcomed me and told me 120,000.

The room was clean, and the girl was OK too. She was about a 6 with her clothes off, breasts almost non-existent, average height and skinny. I'd probably give her an 8 if I saw her dressed up outside.

She was friendly and positive, and gave me a good wash and massage, including the chair treatment. Then we did the deed in several positions, an she didn't complain, but didn't try very hard either.

Overall, I left happy, and felt it was worth the money.

Coming out of Janghanpyeong Station (Line 5) Exit 3, it is down the road a couple of hundred metres. It is on a corner, and there are two entrances, one on the main road, and one on the side street which also has a door to a karaoke room of the same name, 39.

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Ok, I’ve been reviewing the forum for about a year and thought I’d finally contribute. I’ve returned to Korea for a few days for work and took the opportunity to experience the nightlife again. I was stationed in Korea back in mid-90s, and it is completely different now. To begin, I landed last Friday, but was exhausted after the flight, so no fun and games. Didn’t even get a knock at the door or phone call, as was the norm in ’94, or possibly I slept through them.

Saturday night I decided to head up to Tongducheon, where I was stationed, and see the sights. It has grown so much I didn’t recognize it, but lo and behold, the subway from Seoul now drops you right outside what was a raging RLD. Note word “was”, it seems the Army has cleaned it up. Spent about six hours in the ‘ville, and was only offered sex once, and that was from a fat old ajuma that remembered me from ’94. Back then we called her the Sergeant Major and she was a pretty useful pimp; always had great looking girls in a little alley. No such luck now, but she was willing to do me herself. I was not drunk enough yet, so said no. She did tell me it was all cleaned up. There are some girls working, but very difficult to find. Also, most, if not all of the bar girls are Philipinas with a few Russians for variety. Also, there’s an MP every fifty feet, and they break up any grope sessions in the bars. I guess I still look Army or they just don’t get civilians up there as they kept harassing me as well.
So, I departed TDC at about 0200 and headed back to Seoul. Oh, the curfew is still in effect, but has spread across Korea since 2002 and the Nightline report on prostitution in Korea. Keep the boys safe from those evil prostitutes. The streets emptied at 0100, and several of the bars became Korean only. Anyway, as the subway stopped running about 11:00 PM, I had to take a cab. The driver asked if I wanted a girl, thank god, and he took me way out in the countryside to a glass-house area. I believe we were in the Western Corridor that runs from Seoul up to Panmunjom. I was hammered, so the girls were not interested in anything. The driver kept circling though, so eventually we found a girl willing to do Andre the Giant. She was cute, thin, enhanced, no English, and about 40, making her a 4 in my book. The sex was pretty basic, 15 minutes for 150,000 won, shower first, covered sex, several positions. Did not finish. Too drunk/tired I guess. Headed out and ended up at my hotel at 0500. Slept till noon and then off and running with folks from work. I had to tell them I was run down from the flight as they wanted to get me some cold medicine as I looked so bad.

So, Monday afternoon, I broke off and went to Gangnam, after guidance from the forum. Went by Cool, without realizing it (I was looking at all the Golf Shops, my other passion that began in Korea). Found Belle as I waited for a crossing light. I went in and had a nice time. A guy greeted me at the door took me to a booth and told me to undress. I asked about a shower, hoping for a table shower, but he took me to a regular shower. I cleaned up, as I’d walked around Gangnam some, and had had dinner at Hooters. Went back to the booth and a girl came in. This one was much nicer, 25, limited English, thin, real breasts, great ass, cute face, and very skilled, 8.5 to 9. She undressed to panties, laid me out on the table and gave me a nice massage. She spent a long time massaging my ass, lightly stroking my inner thighs, cheeks, and scrotum. She also spent about five minutes rimming me. She then had me flip over and gave me a blowjob, starting with light licking, then proceeding to a full BBBJ, though not to completion. After that she moved up and finished me off with her hand. She used a lube similar to KY Jelly. We also did some DFK, which bothered me later when I remembered she had rimmed me. All told, the damage was 80,000 won, counting a 20,000 tip. On the way out, I saw Cool. I’ll have to visit there next.
Ok, so work kept me busy late on Tuesday and Wednesday, Thursday one of the girls from work came to my hotel for some exercises, and Friday was a big work dinner, followed by more mattress work with the girl from work. Saturday I went out on my own again. Told the girl I wanted to do some shopping for my niece and nephew, and she left me alone. I instead made a beeline to Gangnam. Was headed to Cool, but went out the wrong exit from the subway and walked right past Zest. Again, after the discussions on here, I had to visit. Went in, was directed to a small room, and given a menu. I chose the Schoolgirl outfit. A girl came in, a little too thin for my tastes, and can’t really say anything about her body as she stayed clothed the entire session. Basically, she gave me a hand job using her feet. It was ok, cost was 70,000 won. Again, KY was the lube of choice, but it came from about a gallon jug that I found amusing. Anyway, so that was nothing to scream about. It felt ok, but afterwards I went back to Belle. I tried Cool, but the guy at the entrance said 20 minutes till a girl was free. Belle was no wait, and same as last time, different girl (23, thin, 5’3”, handful breasts, short hair, about a 7), no rimming. Took her time and did not mind that it took about me 40 minutes of mouth and hand work to finish. She also bit my chest and shoulders as she gave me a hand job. Again, it was an enjoyable experience.

I’ll try to hit Cool this week, and will report on that. When I got back to my hotel, the girl from work had left a message to call. She was there within 20 minutes of my call, at about 1130, and we went right at it. She basically undressed as I was offering her a drink, stayed all night and just left before I started typing this, about 7:00 PM. Oh, I got the rimming after all. I love this country.

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[QUOTE=Juanvaldez68]All told, the damage was 80,000 won, counting a 20,000 tip.[/QUOTE]
So, was the 20,000 won tip for the anal rimming? Do you know what other "extras" are available at Belle? I was under the impression you don't need to give the girls a tip at the massage places in Korea.

After going to Belle, you might not like Cool that much. I just got back from Belle tonight and I don't think I'll be returning to Cool anytime soon. Almost got a BBBJCIM tonight, if she would have kept sucking for five more seconds. As far as I know you can't get that at Cool. And Belle is cheaper too!

[QUOTE=Ezinho]So, was the 20,000 won tip for the anal rimming? Do you know what other "extras" are available at Belle? [/QUOTE]20,000 was 'cause it felt so good. I was very relaxed and happy at end of session. No idea of other extras. I think she rimmed because I'd just showered. Maybe she always does, but the second girl did not. Will try again if I get a chance.

[QUOTE=Scotlander]I went to Itaewon on Saturday night to check out the scene there, and was hugely disappointed with what was on offer compared to the relative "quality" that could be found a few years ago.

Many of the bars were single girl bars when in the past they had three or four working in them, and the quality on offer left a lot to be desired.

Ambrosia had the nicest looking of all the girls on the hill, and the best presented girl too in a miniskirt and halter top. The downsides were tiny breasts and ridiculous charges from which she wouldn't negotiate. The one girl in Madrid refused to drop below 100,000 won for even a blowjob, but I did get an offer for a 50k blowjob from a girl in the bar next door (Polly's Kettle side). That bar had three girls working but none of them were even a 5 on the quality scale.

After a few other aborted attempts at getting affordable play with an attractive girl, I found one lady who seemed pretty cute at the bar that used to be called Indian Joes (or next door, my mind gets foggy now), however I followed her in only to find what I can only assume was her mom sitting on a sofa in there. Woooo, time to back out the door.

Overall then, Itaewon is a pale shadow of the place it was even two years ago, and then it was nothing in comparison to what it was in the early years of this century when lots of good, affordable fun could be had in and around the hill.

On a side note, Fantasy has moved across the road and into a basement location, but I didn't venture down there. Has anyone else been in there recently?

Any more recent hill experiences to share?

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I fully agree to your assessment. Itaewon is dying and this is day by day. I am only about 2 1/2 years here, so I never experienced the glory I have been told. Can't understand the girl’s business method either. They are obviously lacking customers (some honestly tell you that I would be first customer a day, and I believe it) and instead of trying to get a solid repeating customer base by being honest and charge reasonable price with good service, they only try to rip you off and want to charge way off anything realistic for any service. No wonder that they are dying.

Itaewon hill and surrounding areas will soon be fully in black hands (this is no offense, just a record – to avoid misunderstanding). Almost every week one regular shop or former girly bar is converted in a Kebab house, African or oriental restaurant or such.

Just next door in a regular club, if you are somehow nice and friendly and 'reasonably' approaching by taking time, you can capture plenty of freebees looking for adventure. No success guarantee, but my impression is that the regular Itaewon clubs more and more frequently get visited by regular girls groups who get to know that foreigners can be had there. Not so obviously and to easy, but you can be successful here with reasonable efforts for a couple of drinks. This is as well the reason why my contribution in this section dropped recently.

My best RLD for the quick fuck is still Miari, but not all share this opinion on this board. However I found the right spots where I am pretty much welcomed and the girls even enjoy me like a boyfriend and allow themselves some fun while on duty. Yes I am nice guy and always take care of the girl as well!! I get 30-50 min sessions there for the regular 70 kW.

So for me its currently Miari for the quick regular fun and the freebee for the hunting success. So 'cool' is no option for me. Sometimes I add an anma visit as I like the process.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I just got back from Cool and I was charged 70,000 won. Is this a new price increase for everyone or just me, I wonder?

Also, there was over an hour wait. If I go back I may have to make an appointment![/QUOTE]When I first started going there around September of last year it was 60,000, then they posted a notice on the door saying that starting Oct. 31, it was going up to 65,000. I guess every 6 months to a year they increase it by 5,000 or so.

Out of curiosity, I have to ask this question - What is the most active/busy expat on-line community among the Korean expats? I assume the ISG is the one as far as mongering is concerned, but how about the general infos?

[QUOTE=Play Thing]Out of curiosity, I have to ask this question - What is the most active/busy expat on-line community among the Korean expats? I assume the ISG is the one as far as mongering is concerned, but how about the general infos?[/QUOTE]

PT,

There are several but one of the most active is Dave's ESL Cafe at: [url]http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/[/url]

It includes discussions on just about any topic you might be interested in...of course ISG continues to rock for info specific to our "little hobby"

KORVET

[QUOTE=Brain666]Can't understand the girl’s business method either. They are obviously lacking customers (some honestly tell you that I would be first customer a day, and I believe it) and instead of trying to get a solid repeating customer base by being honest and charge reasonable price with good service, they only try to rip you off and want to charge way off anything realistic for any service. No wonder that they are dying. [/QUOTE]This puzzles me as well. Rather than get a reasonably easy 40 50k for a quick BJ or HJ, they'll quite often hold out for "ladies' drinks" first and refuse to negotiate down from six figures for whatever service they're asked to provide.

With places like barbershops and the handjob joints offering cheap and easy alternatives, not to mention RLDs, for those who have figured out how things work in Korea (which doesn't take that long, really), I would have thought they'd need to do something a bit special to attract customers but they're just not doing it these days.

Perhaps there are enough "fresh off the boat" English teachers arriving in Korea who keep them in business by paying well over the odds for play every couple of days, but they would surely do better with a circle of regular punters paying smaller prices for services than the one-off "jackpot" from someone who's unlikely to splash out that much that often.

As mentioned before, there is quite a large range of quality, services and pricing for the different RS. Went to one called Boracay near Apkeujongdong in Gangnam. 4 people drinking all night, 3 bottles of scotch and tons of beer, one girl each, all with full service after drinking costs USD 500 each. In my opinion, some of the best looking and fun girls I've had in the last 2-3 years. A bit pricey but just living out my fantasy! Picked a girl that looked like someone I fantasized about in high school.

Yesterday night at 8:30 pm. I went to yongsan rld. But I was surprised to see the condition there.

That place is totally dead man. There was no girl to be seen.

Could aneone plz give the latest info about yongsan rld.

Best time to visit, price and services.

Thanks in advance.

Ps. If neone can share info about personal number of a hokker. That would be quite useful as well.

Hi All,

I happened to take a ride past Yongsan RLD on Sunday at around 6:00pm and it was all closed up with flyers on each window. At the end of the road heading north there were tables set up like they were about to have a Sunday night dinner together... That would be a sight to see all the providers out there having dinner with their pimps. They actually had the far end blocked off with their cars as I couldn't get out with my scooter and had to turn around and go back.

Anyone in the know have more details?

Lost In Seoul

[QUOTE=Honey Singh]Yesterday night at 8:30 pm. I went to yongsan rld. But I was surprised to see the condition there.

That place is totally dead man. There was no girl to be seen.

Could aneone plz give the latest info about yongsan rld.

Best time to visit, price and services.

Thanks in advance.

Ps. If neone can share info about personal number of a hokker. That would be quite useful as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Honey Singh]Yesterday night at 8:30 pm. I went to yongsan rld. But I was surprised to see the condition there.

That place is totally dead man. There was no girl to be seen.

Could aneone plz give the latest info about yongsan rld.

Best time to visit, price and services.

Thanks in advance.

Ps. If neone can share info about personal number of a hokker. That would be quite useful as well.[/QUOTE]As with many parts of Seoul Yongsan district is one of many districts going through recontruction. The current site of Yongsan RLD is sitting on very expensive land and will be torned down for high rise luxury condo's and office towers. Ever since the Seoul government designated Yongsan as an international district to attract foreign investment land prices high skyrocked. Currently some parts of Yongsan is now more expensive than the affluent Gangnam district.

I am not sure if the recontruction has began or you just went during a very slow period. Anyway recontruction will start sooner or later and Yongsan RLD will be history unless somehow they can find alternative land space in that area.

Hey everyone, I just joined the forum and this is my first report.

I just went on the recomendations of some of the previous posters here. I went on Friday night (I know, bad time...) and COOL had lots of fancy cars and a crowd of Koreans standing by the door, so I just walked past. This was around 12:30 AM. So I went to the intersection and across the street to Belle. The young man who answered the door was helpfull, told me to wait 10 minutes. I'm a white foreigner and I speak a little Korean, but not really developed sentences... but this didn't seem to be any problem. I asked if they have a point card and (I think) he said no, but they offer a small discount to regulars. Anyway, for me the price was 65,000.

I was led to a small room with a massage table, changed, walked down the hall to shower and came back to the room. My girl's name was "Nara." Very nice body, fake breasts but not overdone, and somewhat cute face. Great attitude and smile. We chatted in a mixture of English and Korean. Usual deal - strip to panties, light massage, 5 min BBBJ, HJ, kissing. She let me touch, but only above the waist. After I finished, she stayed to chat and fed me some plums - a nice touch! Overall, a very nice experience. Where should I try next?

Place: Belle
Girl: Nara
Body: 8
Face: 6
GFE: 10

Nice report, Njord. I had Nara once too and I agree with your ratings to a T, her face isn't the greatest but everything else is real nice, and she has a great attitude. She's a good kisser too, but think about where that mouth has been before you do it!

If you're into big, natural D-cup tits, there's this girl there named Hannah, I got her a few days ago and her body is fantastic. She didn't even bother with a massage, and just told me to take off my robe. Nice BBBJ with ice, and almost to completion. Why you can't choose which girl you want when you enter, I have yet to figure out.

You can get 5,000 won off if you have a flyer, sometimes they are laying on the ground around Gangnam, so one day I picked up a bunch of them. I should have enough for the next couple of months, LOL!

If you want to check out some new places, there are some massage joints on the same side of the street as Cool, up a little more, that I believe are Wayguk-friendly. If you check them out, please report back and let the board know.