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[QUOTE=Carpediem]Hi - I'll be visiting HK for the first time in about three weeks, and I'm trying to get a feeling for the scene. Here are few basic questions -

Is there a place/post listing relevant web pages - e.g. I see 141 mentioned all the time, but no link to the existing site.

I may not be able to take a girl to my hotel - are there some per hour hotels conveniently located?

I see Wanchai being mentioned as a most popular area (and tourist trap) - are there other areas worth visiting?

Appreciate it.[/QUOTE]1) just Google "******" the first entry will be in Chinese, click on it. you will see buttons in English that say "Yes, I am at at least 18 years old"

2) there are lots of hourly hotels in HK. Just look for anything that says "guesthouse". From the bars in Wanchai, walk down Lockhart Road in the direction of the MTR. On "he left before the pedestrian bridge you will see Ming Court. About a block later is Beverly Hotel ($210/2 hours). A block after that is Victoria ($240). These are in increasing quality. Ming Court is really just the most basics. Beverly has bath tubs, larger rooms but the worlds hardest beds. Stay over nightVictoria is good enought to Better though to go to Lee Garden Road. At the end on the left is a large building, I think it is Phoenix Apartments. There are lots of guest houses there an you should be able to get $100/2 hours. They are mostly ok, better than Ming Court/not as good as beverly. Cheap and chearful.

There are lots of other things to check out: Lang Kwai Fong, 141, massage, Macao, Shenzhen. Depends on what else interests you. For pure mongering, you will keep coming back to Wanchai.

I bumped onto one of my longtime Filipina friends in Laguna the other day. We met in Manila a few years ago and chat online from time to time. She comes back regularly to Wanchai and I occasionally buy her a bowl of noodles.

She was complaining that there are so many girls now and customers are getting very cheap. Often the new girls will go short time for $500, even $300, and she "can't make money doing that"

So, I am now on the look out for what at $300 Wanchai Girl looks like.

Anyone seen one?

[QUOTE=Jglive]Any recommendations on where I can pick up legit Vit-C or V in Hong Kong?

Any help much appreciated[/QUOTE]If you are looking for Viagra or Cialis, you can get it at pretty much any drug store / chemist. Just go to any small pharmacy and ask, expecially in Wanchai, Causeway Bay or anywere in Kowloon. It will be full price as I have never seen cheap generic in HK.

[QUOTE=Thor93]Tuesday was my last night in HK and I was debating what if anything to do. Went over to WanChai just before midnight. My plan was to not spend more than HK$1000. And if I could no get it, I was willing to go back to the hotel alone.

Great post Thor. Really that is what Wanchai, and HK, are all about. An adventure. It is a no brainer to go pick up an Asian beauty for $2, 000. But why? And you ruin it for the other guys. $1, 000 is perfectly reasonable but takes enough confidence in yourself to insist on being an informed consumer. And you have to be willing, even enjoy, walking away from the negotiation. Also setting your price a bit lower makes for a fun game, stretches it out a bit. I have occasionally gone lower, $800 or even $500. Depending on the girl, and business, they will sometimes do it. Though you get the feeling afterwards that they feel cheated, so I am not sure if it is worth it. $500 probably is a better price point for your second time with them. Funny though, if you get them to go for free you don't get that cheated feeling, I guess if they go for free they feel it is a GFE for them. Go figure.

I particularly liked your threesome story. I have had similar experiances. I can't say it has ever been really terrific (except that time at Eden in Bangkok. But that is a different board). Sometimes have even had one girl want the other to wait in the bathroom while we do it, switching when ready. So when two girls ask to go together, I always think back "has it ever been great", and price accordingly. It is like buying DVDs, you know a third are no good, so you have to build the failure rate into your pricing model.

Which hotel did you take those two girls? Was there a "joiner" suplement?

Will Smith,

The LangKuaiFang Hotel is pretty small, I didn't like my stay. It depends on what kind of girl you are trying to pick up. If it's Local Chinese-Cantonese HK girls then Langkuaifang hotel would be closest to the LKF bars.

If you want Filipinas, Thai, Vietnamese etc...then you should stay around WanChai area. They got lots of 3-4 star hotels there-Charterhouse hotel etc. higher end would be grand hyatt or Renaissance etc. With taxis all over just stay around the general vicinity and you'll do alright. HK is just not that big.


AsnDragon

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Thanks asndragon,

I am more in picking up some quits in the bar.

Any suggestion on the lane Kwai fong hotel?

I like to be in the bars looking around.

I really like the langham but I always have the problem in the 141 places with the language.

Thanks again

Will[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsnDragon]Guys,
What happened to all the 141 gals who have their own apartment places you can visit? There use to be so many all over in Jordan area....and now it's been reduced down to at least 1/2 of what it was back 3 years ago. What's going on with the supply of girls? Are they finding over better locations to work out of?

National Court Location use to have at least 14 girls. Now there's one girl who does the whole S&M services and that's it.

I just feel that all the apartment 141 girls are getting fewer and fewer. Anyone know what the deal is?
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National Court used to have 200+ girls. The entire top two-thirds of the building was once occupied by 141 providers, making it the largest motherload of 141s in Hong Kong. About three years ago, building security there started to require all visitors to sign in. That effectively ended the 141 trade there (which was probably what building management intended).

Another motherload used to be next door to National Court, in the New Lucky House. But last year, something happened and they all went away. I'm not sure what happened because building security doesn't ask visitors to check-in.

Currently, the only large 141 cluster in Jordan is at Foremost Building.

I disagree that 141s are dying in Hong Kong. They have simply moved into the New Territories and away from the tourists and expats where they can operate more discretely. And frankly, I think many of the girls don't want to service non-Chinese punters.

More and more 141s are showing up in offbeat locations like Sheung Shui, Tai Po and Yuen Long. In fact, in these locations, you can sometimes find illegal, multi-girl 141s staffed by very young mainland girls. It got to the point where, when the girl opens the door and I notice she's in a very large unit, I would ask "yull mo kay tah" ("are there any others"). Sometimes, she would ask her friend to come out from hiding and you'd see choice #2.

Hey Will,

I study HK nightlife from internet and listing things down.

I have read many things and choosed a hotel in kowloon because of favorable transport options, being near to all attraction centers such as bars, pubs, clubs, girls, shopping etc.

I will be in HK between 19-23 May for a meeting and my hotel is in kowloon@ tsim sha tsui.

As it is a business trip, I travel alone and it would be good to have beer together to excahnge thougts. my e-mail: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

HT

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi fellow mongers,

I am on my way to HK. And I still can not make up my minde on the hotel to stay.

I still nedd to decide and mybe someone has a bit help for me.

I look fror one 4, 5* or 5* near some action with VERY nice bathrooms (I love the action there). And a pool area.

I was thinking of the langham place or something like this. Also in central would be ok.

Any suggestion?! Thanks

Also is someone is there 20 to 21 may, may we have a beer!

Tanks

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fee; ing the need to add to the overall knowledge of everyone in this room, i wanted to share my expereince on my favorite haunts since there may not be detailed info for all of those that are interested.

for all of those interetsed i am a big fan of dundas 37 and k-pressure style establishments, because ihave no desire to take the girl where i stay and i am not a big fan of the massage. anyway, here goes:

k-perssure: for those of you that know k-pressure it costs 390hk for 45 minutes and 100hk for the room. you get a decent room with an uncomfortable mattress imho. anyway, the girl takes you upstairs she showers with you and is supposed to give you a soapie massage on an air mattress standing up as well as a bbbj with ice if you wish or without. your choice. when you first enter you are escorted to a room with a tv and asked what you wouldlike to drink. after the drink is served, the hostesses bring in girls one at a time for you to spend 2-3 minutes with at which time you can cop a feel and see what the girls attitude is. word of caution though, do not go on sundays because the all of the good looking girls are given the day off. i had to learn this harsh lesson twice. another word of caution is don't take the first girl. they usually front load the girl that gets no play. other than that i really like this place because they take credit card and you can put the hotel on the card if you wish too, so no need for cash.

recommendation: all of the times i have been there and perused their selection, tina or maggie are the hottest ones, but you can forego this recommendation and go through the line-up they let you because looks are relative. just note that they only bring out their best for their best customers.

dundas 37. this has the same set-up as k-pressure, but the difference is you do not have an opportunity to spend 2-3 minutes with the girl. they usually bring in a line-up of 2-5 girls at a time and you are asked to choose. this place costs hk 390 for 50 minutes and hk 100 for the hotel. the thing that sucks about this is all tranrep001ions must be cash. for whatever reason they don't accept credit. what you get for your money is a decent room with a comfortable matress, but small shower with toilet. k-pressure doesn't have toilets, just the shower drain. also, the starting menu is the same minus the air mattress. what makes this place so awesome is the fact that a good portion of the girls are attractive and have nice bust lines. i don't think i have ever had or seen a girl with less than a c-cup from this place. same rule applies here as well don't choose out of the first group, don't be afraid to see what they have.

recommendations: in terms of girls i have none because all of these girls are doable unlike k-pressure. also, multiple hours will get you more time (i. e. 2 sessions totalling hk 790 will get you 120 minutes). also the last time i was there i accidentally asked for two girls which they were willing to do for hk 790 for 45 minutes if i remember correctly. maybe one day i will do it, but i really didn't have the urge. concentrating on one woman is enough.

anyway, i hope this helps anyone looking for information on these two places. of the two, each has its advantage, but the common problem is once you let a girl go out your selection to see what else they have someone else may take her, so beware.

one more thing, hopefully, someone can help me with these questions:

1. i noticed on the 141 site, a number of girls offering overnights that are negotiable. what is a reasonable price for overnight with a girl who costs hk 700-800? what are the times of an overnight and where do you stay for that time with her?

2. does anyone have any solid or information regarding good-looking nepali, indian, or other nationalities from this region?

3. does anyone have any info on shenahen, besides what i have read on this board and the shenzhen board which is relatively sad?

thanks,

tb

[QUOTE=Maximman]Thanks, so if a woman was korean and managing a bar, what's the best place to start?[/QUOTE]
The concierge of your hotel. He wont mind being asked. You need to find a few of the type of place you would expect to find her, then ask the staff there who may know her.

[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]1. I noticed on the 141 site, a number of girls offering overnights that are negotiable. What is a reasonable price for overnight with a girl who costs HK 700-800? What are the times of an overnight and where do you stay for that time with her?
[/QUOTE]
the overnight price is typically 3x ~ 3.5x the base price. It is definitely negotiable so see how you go. Be sure to establish the start and depart times and also the fact you expect multiple pops. Good luck.

Hello ht,

Thanks ofr the Info.

If you activate your pm then i can send you a Mail,Aborte the Beer. Ok

Will

[QUOTE=Happy Turk]Hey Will,

I study HK nightlife from internet and listing things down.

I have read many things and choosed a hotel in kowloon because of favorable transport options, being near to all attraction centers such as bars, pubs, clubs, girls, shopping etc.

I will be in HK between 19-23 May for a meeting and my hotel is in kowloon@ tsim sha tsui.

As it is a business trip, I travel alone and it would be good to have beer together to excahnge thougts. my e-mail: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

HT

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[QUOTE=AsnDragon]Will Smith,

It depends on what kind of girl you are trying to pick up. If it's Local Chinese-Cantonese HK girls then Langkuaifang hotel would be closest to the LKF bars.
[/QUOTE]I thought LFK was all civilian? Are there Local and/or mainland Chinese working girls there too? Any suggestions on places to check? I haven't seen much in previous posts about LKF. I'd love to meet some local or mainland girls that aren't 141/hotel girls, or street walkers at Temple St. Any suggestions appreciated!

For my next trip I will take my USB Broadband Dongle and a Phone that is locked to a carrier. In the past I have always had an unlocked phone. Does anyone know where to get these unlocked? Will any phone/sim retailer do this or will I have to go somewhere a little less mainstream? I'll be staying Island side if there are any suggestions nearby.

Sorry to be off topic.
To get back on topic and to answer Vijay...
I don't think there are any local or PRC girls regularly working in LKF. Maybe in a ah hoc way but generally the place for normal girls. A small percentage would be looking to hook up to a foreigner but will cost more than P4P by the time you are through. There are some out of town wg there looking for a change of scene but they will be in Wanchai later on when they are serious about finding a customer as it is not really the place for it.

BJK

[QUOTE=BJK]For my next trip I will take my USB Broadband Dongle and a Phone that is locked to a carrier. In the past I have always had an unlocked phone. Does anyone know where to get these unlocked?[/QUOTE]This varies greatly by phone make and model. Some phones you can potentially google a 4 digit code to unlock it, others are just impossible. A good place to check is Howard Forums, howardforums.com

[QUOTE]Sorry to be off topic.

To get back on topic and to answer Vijay.

I don't think there are any local or PRC girls regularly working in LKF. Maybe in a ah hoc way but generally the place for normal girls. A small percentage would be looking to hook up to a foreigner but will cost more than P4P by the time you are through. There are some out of town wg there looking for a change of scene but they will be in Wanchai later on when they are serious about finding a customer as it is not really the place for it.

BJK[/QUOTE]Any specific place (not in LKF) to find them? Just try my lucki in wan chai late at night?

[quote=tommy boy]fee; ing the need to add to the overall knowledge of everyone in this room, i wanted to share my expereince on my favorite haunts since there may not be detailed info for all of those that are interested.

for all of those interetsed i am a big fan of dundas 37 and k-pressure style establishments, because ihave no desire to take the girl where i stay and i am not a big fan of the massage. anyway, here goes:

k-perssure: for those of you that know k-pressure it costs 390hk for 45 minutes and 100hk for the room. you get a decent room with an uncomfortable mattress imho. anyway, the girl takes you upstairs she showers with you and is supposed to give you a soapie massage on an air mattress standing up as well as a bbbj with ice if you wish or without. your choice. when you first enter you are escorted to a room with a tv and asked what you wouldlike to drink. after the drink is served, the hostesses bring in girls one at a time for you to spend 2-3 minutes with at which time you can cop a feel and see what the girls attitude is. word of caution though, do not go on sundays because the all of the good looking girls are given the day off. i had to learn this harsh lesson twice. another word of caution is don't take the first girl. they usually front load the girl that gets no play. other than that i really like this place because they take credit card and you can put the hotel on the card if you wish too, so no need for cash.

recommendation: all of the times i have been there and perused their selection, tina or maggie are the hottest ones, but you can forego this recommendation and go through the line-up they let you because looks are relative. just note that they only bring out their best for their best customers.

dundas 37. this has the same set-up as k-pressure, but the difference is you do not have an opportunity to spend 2-3 minutes with the girl. they usually bring in a line-up of 2-5 girls at a time and you are asked to choose. this place costs hk 390 for 50 minutes and hk 100 for the hotel. the thing that sucks about this is all tranrep001ions must be cash. for whatever reason they don't accept credit. what you get for your money is a decent room with a comfortable matress, but small shower with toilet. k-pressure doesn't have toilets, just the shower drain. also, the starting menu is the same minus the air mattress. what makes this place so awesome is the fact that a good portion of the girls are attractive and have nice bust lines. i don't think i have ever had or seen a girl with less than a c-cup from this place. same rule applies here as well don't choose out of the first group, don't be afraid to see what they have.

recommendations: in terms of girls i have none because all of these girls are doable unlike k-pressure. also, multiple hours will get you more time (i. e. 2 sessions totalling hk 790 will get you 120 minutes). also the last time i was there i accidentally asked for two girls which they were willing to do for hk 790 for 45 minutes if i remember correctly. maybe one day i will do it, but i really didn't have the urge. concentrating on one woman is enough.

anyway, i hope this helps anyone looking for information on these two places. of the two, each has its advantage, but the common problem is once you let a girl go out your selection to see what else they have someone else may take her, so beware.

one more thing, hopefully, someone can help me with these questions:

1. i noticed on the 141 site, a number of girls offering overnights that are negotiable. what is a reasonable price for overnight with a girl who costs hk 700-800? what are the times of an overnight and where do you stay for that time with her?

2. does anyone have any solid or information regarding good-looking nepali, indian, or other nationalities from this region?

3. does anyone have any info on shenahen, besides what i have read on this board and the shenzhen board which is relatively sad?

thanks,

tb[/quote]i agree with most part of the report except the remrks about bustline in 37 d. my experience on both the occassions i was there i got sweet little things with near flat chest.

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