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[QUOTE=Axiata;2110975]Interesting debate. You hit the whole psychological nerve of why people pay more and others pay less. Why do people pay a lot for a real Rolex when a fake one will tell them the exact same time? Why do people drive a BMW when a Hyundai will get them to where they are going? Why do people chase stunners when average girls will still help you shoot your load?

In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? Not all the time but sometimes I prefer a BMW to a Hyundai.

If we look like Ryan Gosling and had a lot of money then stunners would cost us very little. We pay what we can afford and what we think the girls are worth. Sometimes we hit real gold and sometimes fools gold. It is that simple.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]There is one factor that does not fit your analogy re P4P girls in Thailand; the assumed real Rolex will likely lose 15 seconds per minute while the nearly identical looking one is accurate to the second. The BMW will likely be stone cold out of gas while the Hyundai is topped up and ready to roll. The stunners have learned most guys will pay their asking price even if they never engage in what I would consider real sex.

I don't think any of us on the side of the debate that expects top quality service to be combined with top quality looks if we're going to pay top Rolex and BMW money for it would balk at the bill if that combination was delivered. But to only define a Rolex and a BMW by how it looks and how much it costs regardless whether it can even come close to telling accurate time or take you from point A to point B without getting out to push leads to a very bad deal IMO.

Moreover, the "beauty" level of the girls apparently at question does not appear to me by their pics to be any different than what can be had out there for significantly less than the money stated and for that money will deliver at least what I'm betting they routinely give their most favorite regular customers if not more.

I would have no problem paying Rolex and BMW money for the real thing in both looks AND performance. Maybe work a reasonable discount off the asking price as per normal procedure. But we have not heard from the previous wearer and driver what the perfomance level is for these models yet, only seen a photo and heard how much he paid for them below what another guy paid. That is just too little intel to consider before jumping in and saying, "Great! I'll take one, too."

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2111048]Me too but unfortunately a lot of BMWs turn out to be Hyundais in bed, while Hyundais on the other hand often turn out to be BMWs in bed.[/QUOTE]LOL. I was composing my post while you already posted your much more concise one expressing the same sentiment. Good one.

[QUOTE=Axiata;2110975]In my home country stunning girls all night will cost me 75,000 baht so I wait to go to Asia where 10,000 baht is cheap. Would I pay that? [/QUOTE]What the cost is in your home country has no real bearing on the cost in Thailand. For example, when you come to Thailand will you pay 300 Baht for a plate of pad thai on the street? Probably not. You will pay what the local going rate is. And my suspicion is that the local rate is less than you would pay in your home country. 10 K Baht for a night's work in Thailand is not cheap. It is an extraordinary wage. Most Thais I know with MBAs and ten plus years of experience don't make that kind of wage. Far from it. So really what you pay at home has no relevance what so ever.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2111054]I would have no problem paying Rolex and BMW money for the real thing in both looks AND performance. Maybe work a reasonable discount off the asking price as per normal procedure. But we have not heard from the previous wearer and driver what the perfomance level is for these models yet, only seen a photo and heard how much he paid for them below what another guy paid. That is just too little intel to consider before jumping in and saying, "Great! I'll take one, too."[/QUOTE]I've said that on countless occasions. I would have no problem paying Ferrari prices for a Ferrari, but not for a sporty looking car with a Volkswagon engine under the hood.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2111065]I've said that on countless occasions. I would have no problem paying Ferrari prices for a Ferrari, but not for a sporty looking car with a Volkswagon engine under the hood.[/QUOTE]My best experience this month was a Camry in the Nana bar, a Corvette the first night together, and a Ferrari the 2nd night together. The lady drink convinced me that our personalities would mesh nicely. I was more than happy to pay the 2000 baht per night plus a tip, which I felt was Corolla pricing.

I would not ask for more than what I got.

Guys,

I did read it somewhere in one of the threads of Bangkok about a bar where you can pickup girls without risking getting a LB. Apparently this bar is located in Shukumvit road somewhere near Terminal 21 and the entrance is a bit hidden under another hotel entrance. Outside lots of LB standing but inside there are part-time WGs whom one can negotiate prices with.

I did RTFF but could not find that post. Would any of you kind mongers help me out and give me the name / location of this place. I will be in BKK next week and would like to check it out.

Sorry, I haven't had the time to respond back to some of these postings. I figured what I originally posted was going to ruffle up some feathers. It always does because no matter what ISG is supposed to be a platform for (advice and sharing intel), there is always going to be dudes with ego on here that talk down about others because they have NO game. And when they have NO game, they make up an excuse that "there is no such thing as game" when it comes for pay for play. To those with that attitude, THANK YOU! Without guys like you, there wouldn't be guys like me. Still, if you don't think there is any 'game" required. Ask yourself, Why did she go with him and not me? Why did they let those Indian guys in Baccara, but told the other ones "Member Only?" Why did my friend get better service from the same girl I bar fined previously? And on and on.

I've been mongering and hanging out with Phazze93 and SilverSurfer for the past few days. Collectively, we agreed that it's better to ignore some of these angry or bitter guys on ISG that. Let's say "have restricted access" to the hotter and prettier girls. And because of their limitations and lack of game, they down play the quality of the girls, and get angry at other guys for over paying etc. Etc. Of course, there is no fault with themselves, and everyone and everything else is to blame. So us three guys were in search of where to find the hottest Thai girls in the P4 P industry. Rainbow 2 and Baccara are the 2 Go Go bars known for let's say the better crop of good looking girls in Bangkok. And yes they are biased. At this point, some of these members on here would disagree, but their opinion is unimportant. The girls in the industry will tell you that they are the top 2, not the customers. I will post more about them later, but having milked that scene and having been with all the hotter girls in those clubs, I was ready to move on.

Phazze93 took us to the Lord Palace. I've never been and he said there are alot of model types there. The Lord is known as the best and most expensive massage joint in Bangkok. The place has a nice size fish bowl and when we arrived to check out the talent, I was able to find my Thai model type girl that fit the profile seen on Thai television and billboards. When I selected her, both SilverSurfer and Phazze93 responded "Awe man! That's the one I wanted. " Sorry guys, too slow. But at least we had the same eye for beauty. They were left with their plan be and see girls, I guess. She informed me she was an XX model, meaning her pricing for me was 9900 baht. "No problem" I said. And the rest is history. We had a good time and she did everything that I wanted from her and what I considered GFE. I'm not going into detail because this isn't the thread for it, plus there was alot of "game" that had to be played between her and I in order to get that type of service. She told me she gets 7-8 customers a day, so I figured she was the top girl in there. After she escorted me down, 5 minutes later she was selected by another customer. Even as her hair still looked as if she was freshly fucked, but with me, it was neat and in place. So Thank God!, for the help from Phazze93 to help me find the model I wanted. My girl also gave me her LINE contact and offered me another model friend who doesn't work there, but willing to fuck selected guys. Awesome. Hot girls who don't get jealous when I change them out! That's the best. Just a bit of advice, at the Lord, I think pricing may be different depending on who you are. So yes, there is racial bias. I've heard of others paying 12,000 and up to 20,000 for the XX models. Another guy paid 7,700 for the lowest end model, but on our price card, the lowest was 5,500. We three are all Asians BTW. Once again. We can't get mad at the industry rules, charge it all to the game. But play better and you will get what you want.

Now, it's time to put your money where your mouth is, for some members on here. SilverSurfer, Phazze93, and I have looked at the history of photos for this forum. We are very disappointed at the quality. Is that, what is considered pretty now days?. It might be rude to say "yuck," so I would just rather say. "those are not my type, but thanks for sharing. " So if ANYONE on this forum has ANYTHING worth while to share, please do. What I really mean is post photos of the "most beautiful, prettiest, or hot girls" that you don't mind sharing for others to fuck and that way they can make some money. This way, if any of us members like the way they look. We can trade you a girl for a girl, after screening. I am willing to share the contact information with some of my girls, for yours if I feel that they are my type of hotness. I was able to hook SilverSurfer up with a girl after screening, but on that day, she started her period, and he wasn't adventurous to earn his "red wings. " Also, don't try to give me hamburger meat for filet mignon, so please post in public what you have to offer. If there isn't any replies, then for sure I know that most shit talkers have been talking out of their asses on here. To that I say "It's time to IGNORE. " To the rest of those whose goal is to fuck HOT GiRLs, let's keep playing and keep sharing intel. Here are my 3 real girls to put up. All 3 have breast implants and are slim by the way.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2109801]Went to Snow White yesterday. Took Emmy. 28, no kid, white skin, almost pink nipples, very nice body, A+, and great skill set. Popped twice in 60 min, first time in the keister, second time CIM. Damage 1900 Baht all in. So when I see 5 k Baht, plus BF and drinks, I just have to shake my head really. Been in Baccara, CW, and the lot recently. To my eyes have never seen a gal worth almost 200 USD.[/QUOTE]You seriously told Phazze93 that you "shook your head" at him barfing a girl in Baccara? And then shared about your gem at Snow White Massage? Clearly, you have judged a lot of beauty pageants in the past and know what you are talking about.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2111048]Me too but unfortunately a lot of BMWs turn out to be Hyundais in bed, while Hyundais on the other hand often turn out to be BMWs in bed.[/QUOTE]Then sir, please work on your game or ask yourself what you may be doing wrong. Because I'm sure some of them BMWs perform like a Bentley for other customers.

[QUOTE=Monkeypaw;2111351]Then sir, please work on your game or ask yourself what you may be doing wrong. Because I'm sure some of them BMWs perform like a Bentley for other customers.[/QUOTE]Don't worry sir, I've had my share of BMWs performing like a Bentley over the years. I didn't say ALL of the BMWs turn out to be Hyundais, did I?

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[QUOTE=Mogwai;2111357]Don't worry sir, I've had my share of BMWs performing like a Bentley over the years. I didn't say ALL of the BMWs turn out to be Hyundais, did I?[/QUOTE]Actually you didn't even mentioned Bentleys. Or did you? And also, you never look to see perhaps what you did wrong or why they performed like Hyundais? I’m always looking to improve, rather than complain. Doing the same thing over and over again and then complaining too much about it, is a sign of getting old and bitter, ya know?

[QUOTE=HornyBabaji;2111025]I would suggest you to try levels lounge or insanity, both are nearby. Good clubs and nice music, insanity goes on till 4 am. Another option is Spasso in grand Hyatt Erawan, girls dress up in little sophisticated but music sucks and its bit suitable for mid age person. Mixx is also nice but they usually doesn't allow Indian and Arabic people, there preferred client tally is whites.

Regarding escorts you can try tony BKK, they have a nice collection. I would suggest you to better go for clubs rather than picking up escorts.[/QUOTE]If these are the type of quality of girls you want. Then they work at the higher end Go Go bars and then they party and look for their long time customers at Scratch Dog or the Hanker Club. Advice, both of those clubs can make any non Asian feel out of place. So go with someone who knows the ropes and is a regular. The poster above is incorrect about MIXX. Their preferred client is any race that doesnt wear shorts and willing to pay for bottle service and spend about 5000 baht and up. Do that and the security staff and bouncers will keep bringing girls to your table. Act like a boss instead of a sex tourist and you will get what you want. Just ask and tip well.

[QUOTE=Monkeypaw;2111368]If these are the type of quality of girls you want. Then they work at the higher end Go Go bars and then they party and look for their long time customers at Scratch Dog or the Hanker Club. Advice, both of those clubs can make any non Asian feel out of place. So go with someone who knows the ropes and is a regular. The poster above is incorrect about MIXX. Their preferred client is any race that doesnt wear shorts and willing to pay for bottle service and spend about 5000 baht and up. Do that and the security staff and bouncers will keep bringing girls to your table. Act like a boss instead of a sex tourist and you will get what you want. Just ask and tip well...[/QUOTE]They're hookers dude. They're job is to get you to spend money. It has nothing to do with game. Some dingy guy comes in there and offers them 20k compared to your 10k, they're gone, along with your "game." Of course believing it is about game will certainly cause you to open the wallet more. How's your Thai? If it's good you can listen to what they are telling their friends. Especially fun when they don't know you speak Thai. Then you'll hear the real story. And think if they are not regulars they don't have a bouncer or server that helps 'em find the dudes that will spend? And sure he gets a cut at some point. I mean, I am glad you are having a great time. More power to you. But don't delude yourself. You are a sex tourist if you don't live her and are coming here to screw girls. Think the gals don't know that? Of course they do. It's their business to know it. We're not "bitter." We're realistic about what is transpiring. No matter how you cut it; it's a business transaction.
Again, are they going to provide PSE? Do they have a well developed skill set? Can they be seductive, erotic, open to some fetish play? A+? Freakish? Sorry Monkey, many of us are beyond the age where we have any desire to "act like a boss. " We have no desire to prove we have "game. " We have no desire to impress anyone. We don't want to put on a show for or romance working girls. Most of us don't have much interest in what they have to say and we definitely don't want to be in a disco playing bad pop music or worse yet with a cover band playing pop music. We came here to escape all that nonsense. Hell I had no patience for that when I moved here 18 years ago when I was in my early 30. I walked into a disco full of working gals, did a round, had my pecker grabbed multiple times, heard "go with you" so much my head hurt, grabbed the one I found attractive, and off I went for a romp. And all for about 25 USD. WTF would I want to spend over 300 for? Honestly, I'd rather go out for an amazing meal and head home for a wank. Those gals. Well, if I could find one that did not have numerous surgeries, well except tits, I like a good tit job, (the gals in your pics have almost all had their noses done, some chin implants, and some have had their jaws shaved as well),I'd be willing to go 150 for an hour if she met the above requirements. If not, you can have them. But paying 300 US and up? FFS, you can have a high dollar hooker anywhere, who actually performs.

[QUOTE=Monkeypaw;2111350]You seriously told Phazze93 that you "shook your head" at him barfing a girl in Baccara? And then shared about your gem at Snow White Massage?. Clearly, you have judged alot of beauty pageants in the past and know what you are talking about. (. crickets chirping.)[/QUOTE]Yep, never seen so many bad surgeries in one place then in Baccarat.