Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2112836]You are definitely correct, her face is just so so. How could I be so blind. When I compare her to the gem that you shared and posted about (red shirt below), I realize my mistake. Looking at them side by side, your girl from Snow White is so much prettier. I'll shut up now. 🤐.[/QUOTE]What I appreciate about the posting of that Snow White girl's photo is it appears to be taken from her agency's online site or at least from some other source online. So reposting a girl's photo who already had a P4P-related photo presence elsewhere online is more or less fair game, imo. But what you are doing and begging the rest of us to join you in doing is very different. I have never been a fan of posting photos of girls on forums like these and have mentioned it in the past. I have tried to lay low on my feelings about it this time around because I understand my position on it is a buzz kill for members who want to see photos of our specific girls and the site certainly likes photos being posted.

I realize you are all excited about finally finding a way to get laid (sort of) by paying girls you meet in the clubs for sex and all of that and want to show off your trophies, compare them with our girls and all. However, since you have gone on and on about posting and begging us to post photos of our girls, assuming their photos are not already easily available online as P4P providers elsewhere, I think someone, ok, me, ought to at least mention the very dark side of doing this. We are, after all, not posting photos of the lady who gives the best foot massage on Soi 8 or whips up the best Pad Thai on Asok. We are talking about girls who fuck and suck strangers and P4P sex. And that is different.

Although Smoothy, Goatscrot and I are enlightened enough about these things to understand that you writing our usernames on a piece of paper resting it against your girl's vagina puts our penises almost as close to actual skin-on-skin intimacy with the inside of her vagina as yours (and without us paying a baht for it! Thanks), that girl's husband, boyfriend, significant other, mom, dad, brother, other close family member or daytime job employer might not be so enlightened about it. Therefore, when a friend of a friend's cousin's cousin finally finds their way to this site and sees that photo of her or another of your or our trophy girl and the Field Report that goes along with it, she just might be in for the ass kicking of her life and total removal from the scene in a way you never anticipated. Or maybe you did anticipate. Don't know.

That has happened. It probably happens a lot more than we know. It happened with me on a site similar to this one and the ripple effect spread to at least two other such sites. In fact, the "kindly old gentlemen", as he presented himself on those sites, begging for more info and photos of ladies we thought were the best at their job was in reality a suspicious husband not kind, old or a gentleman trying to make the connection between where his wife really went in the evenings and, later, exactly who was having sex with her. So, fair warning to you and to anyone else joining you in publicly posting photos of girls we are claiming to engage in P4P or even free trysts for mutual sex and pleasure on this or similar sites; somewhere out there is an interested third party that can take his revenge out on her and perhaps even us in ways that will not end well for the girl and might even wind up being seriously dangerous for the poster as well.

[blue]It's a public forum and who cares if the chicks find it.

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Let's agree to disagree.

A working girl has made a conscious decision to sleep with a total stranger, whom she has never met in her life, and does this night after night. And a photo of her circulating among the countless on the net is going to ruin her life? What are the chances? 1 in a million? Heck, a construction worker has more chances of getting whacked in his profession. If the photo was taken without her permission then sure, it is morally wrong and legally as well. But otherwise it is all fairgame. How many mongers have been featured unwittingly in the HD videos of WS circulating on youtube? There is a risk involved in everything and as grown ups we all understand that.

Sharing photos of working girls on ISG is the only way to equate quality with price, service is another story.

Just my personal opinion, sure others feel likewise or different.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2113177]You hit the nail on the head there. If there were no photos on this site, I'd stop visiting it. However, I will say that I don't care so much about the field reports associated with such girls. I just like to look at the photos. It's when there is a specific field report associated with details of where to find the girl that I find guys running into trouble. There are so many girls in Bangkok, I don't need to be searching for any one particular girl. I have never once searched out a specific girl posted in a field report. But I know others who have, and others who have shared the link to this site with those girls so they can see their photo posted. As ridiculous as it may seem, there are idiots out there who do that. I think the chance of one of the girl's relatives happening on the photos on their own here is very unlikely, but the chance of a fellow monger showing the girls is possible. And once one girl is shown the site, the other girls will all know about it too.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on that bit about chasing down one specific girl who happens to have given one guy on holiday a good time being largely an unrealistic waste of time. But where a close relative or relationship is most likely to find photos of the girl they know here is not merely by chance but because that person engaged in simple research. They don't just stumble upon it, they came here looking for it. In this case, we have a guy touting specific clubs to find "the best" girls and wants us to post photos of the girls we have met and had sex with from those or other similar clubs he has named. He could already know the girl he is trying to track down frequents those clubs. Now the pool of possibilities is dramatically narrowed. All he needs is for one of us to post the photo and share details for the girl he is bent on cornering and done.

That's the way that guy on the other site I referenced did it. He went on and on, just like MonkeyPaw, about how we all should be posting photos and contact information about the girls working the scene, mostly in a particular kind of venue, and eventually someone put a name and location to where and what his wife was doing. He then made an easy connection on the timing of a Line message from me to her on something he asked about "the girl" and, after tapping into her unattended phone, had a definite connection between me and her. From that he had my photo, knew the general area where I lived. He threatened my life online and in private messages, got very rough with her, took their child from her and she no longer works on the scene. It really isn't that difficult for a determined and angry loser to find an active P4P girl in the 2-3 major areas for it that he is looking for on sites like this one as long as he insists that more and more posters put up photos of their girls, cite contact information and so on, as this guy is doing.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2113136]I definitely like PSE over both GFE and looks.

I am usually not as obnoxious as MonkeyPaw (usually I said), but I kind of agree with his HIV statement. I usually don't pay for those high price stunners, mainly because they don't do PSE. They usually require a condom for BJs. They don't offer BBFS and anal (both of which I don't do). No CIM, no swallow, no rimming. IMO, statistically speaking, high price stunners will have a lower percentage of HIV infection than lower price PSE freelancers.[/QUOTE]Good for those liking the concept (might work statistically, but this is a monger forum) but aside engaging in BBFS, all what you say about their "no service" makes me wonder why should I pay for such a girl.

[QUOTE=ArifBD;2111306]Guys,

I did read it somewhere in one of the threads of Bangkok about a bar where you can pickup girls without risking getting a LB. Apparently this bar is located in Shukumvit road somewhere near Terminal 21 and the entrance is a bit hidden under another hotel entrance. Outside lots of LB standing but inside there are part-time WGs whom one can negotiate prices with.

I did RTFF but could not find that post. Would any of you kind mongers help me out and give me the name / location of this place. I will be in BKK next week and would like to check it out.[/QUOTE]Hey Arif- hope this response isn't too late for you. The place is called Thermae. Around the corner from Soi 15. I personally don't like the vibe and get the distinct impression that the girls are all looking for Japanese / Korean customers. Nevertheless, I suggest you walk in earlier (7. 30-8 pm) rather than later. You'll have a better selection. If I remember right, buying a drink is mandatory and then you just walk around. All the ladies are against the wall. Make eye contact and approach whoever you are interested in. If you don't see anyone interesting who's willing to go with you, you're not too far away from Cowboy or Nana.

If you read through the forum, you'll see that there are numerous GoGos at both these venues that don't have any LBs. Go into the ones that most posters are talking about. There won't be any LBs in those.

Cheers and enjoy BKK / Pulse.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2113172]What I appreciate about the posting of that Snow White girl's photo is it appears to be taken from her agency's online site or at least from some other source online. So reposting a girl's photo who already had a P4P-related photo presence elsewhere online is more or less fair game, imo. But what you are doing and begging the rest of us to join you in doing is very different. I have never been a fan of posting photos of girls on forums like these and have mentioned it in the past. I have tried to lay low on my feelings about it this time around because I understand my position on it is a buzz kill for members who want to see photos of our specific girls and the site certainly likes photos being posted.

I realize you are all excited about finally finding a way to get laid (sort of) by paying girls you meet in the clubs for sex and all of that and want to show off your trophies, compare them with our girls and all. However, since you have gone on and on about posting and begging us to post photos of our girls, assuming their photos are not already easily available online as P4P providers elsewhere, I think someone, ok, me, ought to at least mention the very dark side of doing this. We are, after all, not posting photos of the lady who gives the best foot massage on Soi 8 or whips up the best Pad Thai on Asok. We are talking about girls who fuck and suck strangers and P4P sex. And that is different.

Although Smoothy, Goatscrot and I are enlightened enough about these things to understand that you writing our usernames on a piece of paper resting it against your girl's vagina puts our penises almost as close to actual skin-on-skin intimacy with the inside of her vagina as yours (and without us paying a baht for it! Thanks), that girl's husband, boyfriend, significant other, mom, dad, brother, other close family member or daytime job employer might not be so enlightened about it. Therefore, when a friend of a friend's cousin's cousin finally finds their way to this site and sees that photo of her or another of your or our trophy girl and the Field Report that goes along with it, she just might be in for the ass kicking of her life and total removal from the scene in a way you never anticipated. Or maybe you did anticipate. Don't know.

That has happened. It probably happens a lot more than we know. It happened with me on a site similar to this one and the ripple effect spread to at least two other such sites. In fact, the "kindly old gentlemen", as he presented himself on those sites, begging for more info and photos of ladies we thought were the best at their job was in reality a suspicious husband not kind, old or a gentleman trying to make the connection between where his wife really went in the evenings and, later, exactly who was having sex with her. So, fair warning to you and to anyone else joining you in publicly posting photos of girls we are claiming to engage in P4P or even free trysts for mutual sex and pleasure on this or similar sites; somewhere out there is an interested third party that can take his revenge out on her and perhaps even us in ways that will not end well for the girl and might even wind up being seriously dangerous for the poster as well.[/QUOTE]I have never nor would I ever take pics of a wg; for exactly the reasons that ElhToom's stated. I have no need to document my conquests. Posting on this board is to provide information to other mongers, not to show-off what I have been with.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2113172]What I appreciate about the posting of that Snow White girl's photo is it appears to be taken from her agency's online site or at least from some other source online. So reposting a girl's photo who already had a P4P-related photo presence elsewhere online is more or less fair game, imo. But what you are doing and begging the rest of us to join you in doing is very different. I have never been a fan of posting photos of girls on forums like these and have mentioned it in the past. I have tried to lay low on my feelings about it this time around because I understand my position on it is a buzz kill for members who want to see photos of our specific girls and the site certainly likes photos being posted.

I realize you are all excited about finally finding a way to get laid (sort of) by paying girls you meet in the clubs for sex and all of that and want to show off your trophies, compare them with our girls and all. However, since you have gone on and on about posting and begging us to post photos of our girls, assuming their photos are not already easily available online as P4P providers elsewhere, I think someone, ok, me, ought to at least mention the very dark side of doing this. We are, after all, not posting photos of the lady who gives the best foot massage on Soi 8 or whips up the best Pad Thai on Asok. We are talking about girls who fuck and suck strangers and P4P sex. And that is different..[/QUOTE]Thanks for this important reminder. I bet if the shoe were on the other foot those idiots who post pics w / out the ladies' permission would think twice about doing so! I'd love to see some of them get outed and then see whether they remain sanctimonious about posting pics on the sly.

Agree. Would never post a personal photo I took of a girl without their permission to do so. I have posted some girls I know in the past but those are photos that are available to the public via the bar's Facebook or website, etc.

[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113186]Sharing photos of working girls on ISG is the only way to equate quality with price, service is another story.[/QUOTE]

Quality is subjective. What I view as a top gogo girl who I wouldn't care what I paid for is likely someone who Syzygies for example wouldn't give even 500 baht to for LT, and vice versa. Our tastes are nearly on the opposite side of the spectrum with a very few crossovers.

[QUOTE=Pulse0101;2113199]Hey Arif- hope this response isn't too late for you. The place is called Thermae. Around the corner from Soi 15. I personally don't like the vibe and get the distinct impression that the girls are all looking for Japanese / Korean customers. Nevertheless, I suggest you walk in earlier (7. 30-8 pm) rather than later. You'll have a better selection. If I remember right, buying a drink is mandatory and then you just walk around. All the ladies are against the wall. Make eye contact and approach whoever you are interested in. If you don't see anyone interesting who's willing to go with you, you're not too far away from Cowboy or Nana.

If you read through the forum, you'll see that there are numerous GoGos at both these venues that don't have any LBs. Go into the ones that most posters are talking about. There won't be any LBs in those.

Cheers and enjoy BKK / Pulse.[/QUOTE]Thanks man! Other also responded, I will check this out next time I visit BKK, possibly next week.

[QUOTE=Lion55;2113245]Thanks for this important reminder. I bet if the shoe were on the other foot those idiots who post pics w / out the ladies' permission would think twice about doing so! I'd love to see some of them get outed and then see whether they remain sanctimonious about posting pics on the sly.[/QUOTE]Seriously? You would love for forum members to be "outed" for posting photos here on ISG? Come on, dude. Sounds like you are the one being sanctimonious here.

[QUOTE=TheMadDaddy;2112193]Monkey's Paw,

I quite enjoy your posts and appreciate your detailed accounts and contentious theories based on your own testimony and photos etc. On the need for so-called game to get the girl you want, to perhaps unintentionally quote the band Devo. Hats off to you and the girls you want. .... I think, Monkey's Paw, if you ever got fatigued from taking the gaming approach and wanted to just relax, you could and it would not turn out nearly as bad as you might think. I think a lot of girls here in Thailand respond well to chilled out, fun, polite, well dressed guys who don't feel averse to being even just a little bit generous and by that I don't mean being stupid about money either, in fact you will lose their respect if you are that way and you will find yourself being treated badly if you become too generous. Wasting money is not looked too kindly on in Thailand as counter-intuitive as that might sound.[/QUOTE]Your original post was quite long, but I'll try to be to the point. This is my last mention of GAME. If any member or hobbyist says it's not needed or it doesn't exist, then they are truly truly ignorant. The scene we operate in is PLAY FOR PAY. The girls want our money and punters want the best experience (each having their own opinion to what that is). I get that. Now there are so many different types of girls. I get that too. But in Thailand, the Thais are the expert of what is beautiful and what isn't. Our opinions as punters doesn't really count. But I kind of agree with them, the fairer the skin and the slimmer the body, the right direction. So in every place such as a Go Go Bar or Soapy, there are what the staff and other girls consider the "BEST of the BEST. ". And the hotter girls always is able to do and charge whatever she wants... For some, the GAME ends there because they don't have a chance. She doesn't give them a second look, smile, or won't even come for a drink. For me... this is when the the GAME starts!

My only goal every night I do this (which is like 365 days a year) is to get the best and let my GAME try to get me the best experience. I've had BBFS experience before when I first started. Not worth the risk to me anymore, because I'm doing 400 plus girls a year in 25 different countries. So for me, my best YMMV would be BBBJ, DFK, covered sex, with CIM from the top girl at each venue, determined by both me and her reputation amongst the staff, for the correct asking price, and on first try (not multiple bookings). I didn't get that even 10% of the time when I first started in Thailand. Seriously, what '"top" girl of every venue will give up all that on only in 1 meeting. But now, I'm at the point where I get that 50% of the time. Members on here that say they do all the time, what quality of girls are they getting? So I ask them to share (which they still haven't).

Last night, I sat at Baccara Pattaya with another ISG member and watched over and over as guys get rejected or played by dancers for drinks. So there is an obvious GAME on both sides. The hottest girls at every venue gets to pick and choose which customers she goes with every night, and what she does with him. Because the next day, she can get another one again easily. These girls are the egos I like to break along with some of the punters as well. So for ANYONE who says there isn't GAME required, that means they have NO FEAR of rejection. That they can waltz into any venue, ask the mamasan to bring the hottest girl to them, pay her the going rate, and get the experience they want. HECK! I can't even do that and I'm always trying to better my game. But honestly, I think have been with ALL the better looking girls at Thermae and every Go Go Bar in Bangkok and Pattaya, so the XX models at the Lord's was my last conquest. 10,000 baht is no problem. I paid $800 USD for a music video model in Zurich and it was so so experience. The GAME itself with the top notch Thai girls is more than money for sex. They want more. So I'm at a point, where I'm in a sharing mood to discover better girls. But honestly, I think it's just me. I'm at the top, because when another member posts on their let's say. "BETTER FINDS. " I'm like NO THANKS. And now.....

Examples of Game, when money is all the same for 3000 baht short time at Baccara.

Where are you from?

An American born Chinese from California versus one who lives in Shanghai, who gets more brownie points?

Here on holiday?

A guy who is here on a work contract 6 months versus somebody here for 5 days, who gets more brownie points?

Can you speak Thai and how?

A guy who learned it hobbying in Thailand versus another guy who said before he had a Thai girlfriend who worked another Go Go bar that he "sponsored" for a bit, and she taught him, who gets more brownie points?

There is a shit load of examples, but those with GAME will understand what to say, when to say it, and why it it said. How much truth to it DOES NOT matter. The girls will step up their own game and you better be ready.

And anybody who says there isn't GAME must have NEVER been rejected in the Thailand P4 P scene, which I know they are lying there asses off. I see it at Go Go bars, I see it at Thermae, I see it Thaniya (which farangs can't get even inside), I see it at Soapy's that a customer is quoted 20,000, but another 1/2 that price and so on and so on.

One time a girl at Thermae quoted me 4000ST, everybody else 2500. The cute girl next to her overheard the conversation and told me it was because that particular girl had seen me gone with about 25 girls in there and wasn't too fond of me not being able to stick to one. But I really wanted to bang her because she got new boobs, which was the reason I didn't before. They were small. I paid the girl next to her 500 baht in the bathroom to chat her up and say that she had already gone with me before and I was a 3 minute, quick sex type of guy. The next day, I asked new boobs girl again and this time, she agreed for 2500. I started sweet talking her on the walk to my room, and told her she was "perfect" with her new boobs, because it matched her lovely face. And I was sorry for not grabbing her first. For the next hour and a half, I grudge fucked this tiny girl with a huge smile watching these new boobies of her flop up and down! I was able to DFK, BBBJ, and finish on her new boobs and tipped her a couple hundred baht. She thought she had me as a regular. Next day afterwards, I went into Thermae, walked towards big boobs. She had a big smile which quickly turned into a frown when I grabbed the cute girl next to her. And when her coworker quoted me 2500, I told her I would give her 4000 for a couple of hours. She agreed happily. As we walked away, I watched as big boobs eyes stared me down with hate that the devil has for God. This my "friend" is what I mean by GAME, when you don't have to work and you don't give a shit about money and you get exactly what you want. This is how I play in your world. I break egos. - M.

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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2113172] Although Smoothy, Goatscrot and I are enlightened enough about these things to understand that you writing our usernames on a piece of paper resting it against your girl's vagina puts our penises almost as close to actual skin-on-skin intimacy with the inside of her vagina as yours (and without us paying a baht for it! Thanks).[/QUOTE]Read what you wrote again. You must have a low standard for what is considered intimacy and sex. Poor you. I feel bad now and apologize if I made you feel lowly. I don't want to one of those who bully the mentally challenged or retarded. Really I am apologizing to you. If you feel lonely, feel free to use the pic below. It’s my gift to you.. - M

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2113177]You hit the nail on the head there. If there were no photos on this site, I'd stop visiting it. However, I will say that I don't care so much about the field reports associated with such girls. I just like to look at the photos. It's when there is a specific field report associated with details of where to find the girl that I find guys running into trouble. There are so many girls in Bangkok, I don't need to be searching for any one particular girl. I have never once searched out a specific girl posted in a field report. But I know others who have, and others who have shared the link to this site with those girls so they can see their photo posted. As ridiculous as it may seem, there are idiots out there who do that. I think the chance of one of the girl's relatives happening on the photos on their own here is very unlikely, but the chance of a fellow monger showing the girls is possible. And once one girl is shown the site, the other girls will all know about it too.[/QUOTE]Please. Look at your last sentence in YOUR OWN post. Dude, the crap that comes out of your keyboard. You flip flop so much, it's hilarious.