Bangkok Reports

It's my first writing here. According to me it's not exactly racial discrimination, it looks more like face control trying to differentiate spender from only watchers. Last week I was in Bangkok, Tuesday at around 12 am I headed to Crazy House, I'm 40, Caucasian, at the entrance there were bunch of young Chinese guys trying to enter and the guard told them 100 baht each entrance fee, they paid, I was next I have the 100 baht note ready in my hand, I said "Sawatdee krup, how it's going", the guard looked at me, asked "where do you come from?" I said "Bulgaria", he said "welcome, have a nice time" and opened the curtain, doesn't even look at my 100 baht note, which still was in my hand ready. I spend inside around 800 baht (few Jameson+soda & lady drink) and after an hour left. Meanwhile the same Chinese guys still have their first and only breezers. (So I took one chair and left more than them taking 5 chairs) On my way out the guard was collecting the 100 baht notes from a bunch of young polish guys.

Well, I think this is fare policy, these are a Night Bars, not a charity organization, they work for a profit. In my country every venue like this has 200 baht entrance fee and the prices inside are the same. It's not normal to go inside, spend €3.5 on a beer and watch naked women all night. Even internet porn is more expensive.

What bothers me is that with tipping you are fucking up the scene. In March 2017 I visited Bangkok for first time and never heard the word "tip". This year I already heard it everywhere, even the girl in Crazy House, to which I bought the lady drink, which actually was the double one (tequila & coke, but I liked her and I was aware of the fact it's double) asked for a tip. Sure I didn't give her.

What is a tip? A reward given for additional services which are not included in the price! (Cab driver rounds the bill, they don't have usually enough small money, waiter-usually his services are included in the price, but when he / she adds sth from themselves and make you feel better, sure a tip.).

Why shall I tip the stripper, when I pay the lady drink or at Magic table after the BJ. They didn't add anything additionally to make me tip. You ask for a service, they tell you the price and it's done, when they include sth. Extra for e. G. Rim job or sth. Else, then it's different. I tipped the waitress, she called the girl, stays next to me, as soon as I raised my eyes she asked me whether I needed sth. This is additional service.

Problem with the free tips you are giving is that next year they'll be included, this year I paid 1200 for a BJ when I give 100 tip, next year for sure the BJ will be 1300. When you see that everybody covers you ask price and gives you even more it's normal next time to raise you ask price. It's simple economy. And you'll come back to complain in the forums how the things were different 10 years ago. (Never seen these dream times BTW.

You said Thais have different places – sure, they can't cover the high prices, which westeners have brought.

Japan guys have already spoiled their scene. I agree to MonkeyPaw's post, I'm also sure, when you spend like Japanese guy, you won't be denied entrance in their places.

P.S. Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker, but I think I've expressed my opinion.

[QUOTE=TrumTram;2150637]the guard looked at me, asked "where do you come from?" I said "Bulgaria"[/QUOTE]Had a very hot Bulgarian blonde at Club Globe, Zurich a couple of years back. Your post called the experience to mind. LOL.

It is clear that Thailand I changing fast. Earler I've seen chunky african women around Litte Arabia. At least up to my last trip in -16. This time I saw lots of african girls. Younger, slimmer and cuter. And they dress to compete with the local girls.

They are pure africans, black as sin. Not those mixed race kind of girls. Some of them even equally pushy as some of the Soi 7/1 massage grandmothers. I wonder what hotels do with them. Considered as a thai girl who leaves ID in reception or means ST hotel?

Am not sure I like all changes. Especially not when fave places like Nataree is Forced to close and Street food hawkers are forced away from farang getthos.

[QUOTE=DivineBaal;2151051]

They are pure africans, black as sin.
[/QUOTE]And the problem is? You sound like an 18th century explorer who's never seen a black person before. Africa is not a country, it's a continent. People from each country in Africa actually look different.

In case you have been living in a cave all these years, Thailand is rapidly developing. Thai girls with minimal education now have other options besides prostitution and salaries are on the rise.

You might not like black girls, but 1000's of farangs obviously do. Otherwise they wouldn't be plying their trade. It's called supply and demand.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2150514]The night I was there the mommas were speaking to the drunk Japanese guys in English, I clearly heard that.[/QUOTE]A few years ago, I went with my friend to a club with a "Japanese Only" sign, then my friend spoke in broken Japanese, the mms promptly turned the sign over and let us in.

Japanese used to have much larger presence and many have company expense accounts to pay for entertainment. Most of these clubs are Japanese style clubs to make themselves feel like home I guess. They are owned by Japanese or by their mistresses. Japanese companies have been moving manufacturing to other countries. Because the reduce business the club ownership also have changed. Many now will accept foreigners, mainly Asian probably, and frequently they will ask which countries you are from first. Most the ground floor ones will accept customers based on certain profile, it is not entirely by race because you can see the same race from one country is accepted but is rejected when the customer is from another country even both countries speak the same language.

There are various types of clubs. Some are membership only. Not all clubs allow sex or take out so you need to check in advance. You can usually get the girls by hour like 1000 be / HR which will include some drinks. If you want a place to chat and sing with a girl without pressure, these clubs are good for that.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2151057]
You might not like black girls, but 1000's of farangs obviously do. Otherwise they wouldn't be plying their trade. It's called supply and demand.[/QUOTE]It puzzles me how they might get much business, not due to black skin, but the average standard of face and body is not very high. I have done much prettier black girls Overseas. I did meet one or two incredibly hot black girls in Bangkok (one was probably named Christina at a pub) but has been quite hard to find them again. Average looks is not going to work for some of us.

I wonder if speaking English is an advantage for some of them? As I speak Thai, I don't have language barrier problems. If a girl is hot enough, I would not even care if communication is very tough.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2151433]It puzzles me how they might get much business, not due to black skin, but the average standard of face and body is not very high. I have done much prettier black girls Overseas. I did meet one or two incredibly hot black girls in Bangkok (one was probably named Christina at a pub) but has been quite hard to find them again. Average looks is not going to work for some of us.

I wonder if speaking English is an advantage for some of them? As I speak Thai, I don't have language barrier problems. If a girl is hot enough, I would not even care if communication is very tough.[/QUOTE]I think guys take them just for something different. However, it's a shame because most of the black African chicks in Bangkok are butt ugly and giving them money is just encouraging more butt ugly black girls to show up. Of the hundreds I have seen, there was only one I saw that I would have had sex with. If guys would stop taking those fugly chicks, they would stop cluttering up the streets. I've traveled all over Africa and there are a lot of hot girls there, but they obviously are not the ones coming to Bangkok. The ones coming to Bangkok are the bottom of the barrel.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2151466]I think guys take them just for something different. However, it's a shame because most of the black African chicks in Bangkok are butt ugly ....[/QUOTE]Not much more ugly than most beer bar girls. Same overall level as beer bars I'd say. And that again might be the reason why those who come from Africa are the bottom of the barrel. If beer bar MILFs find plenty of clients so will bottom of the barrel Africans.

[QUOTE=XXL;2151477]Not much more ugly than most beer bar girls. [/QUOTE]Not much more ugly than the average, bald headed, pasty white, obese, hairy, sweaty, smelly farang punter in a pair of ridiculous looking shorts and a knock off polo shirt I would say. LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2151466]I think guys take them just for something different. However, it's a shame because most of the black African chicks in Bangkok are butt ugly and giving them money is just encouraging more butt ugly black girls to show up. Of the hundreds I have seen, there was only one I saw that I would have had sex with. If guys would stop taking those fugly chicks, they would stop cluttering up the streets. I've traveled all over Africa and there are a lot of hot girls there, but they obviously are not the ones coming to Bangkok. The ones coming to Bangkok are the bottom of the barrel.[/QUOTE]Like the western guys are the bottom of the barrel?

[QUOTE=XXL;2151477]Not much more ugly than most beer bar girls. Same overall level as beer bars I'd say. And that again might be the reason why those who come from Africa are the bottom of the barrel. If beer bar MILFs find plenty of clients so will bottom of the barrel Africans.[/QUOTE]This is the last girl I pulled from a beer bar near Nana.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2151654]This is the last girl I pulled from a beer bar near Nana.[/QUOTE]It is not impossible to find an acceptable looking african lady in Bangkok. My hesitation would be getting set up for a poor service experience. Plus asian ladies are plenty hot enough for me, and there are 1000's of those about. And sometimes hotels get finicky about non-Thai national joiners. YMMV.

As for the pic: the purse over the crotch is a common ladyboy tell aka fig leaf covering their junk.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2151661]
As for the pic: the purse over the crotch is a common ladyboy tell aka fig leaf covering their junk.[/QUOTE]Oh really? However this girl is definitely not a ladyboy.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2151654]This is the last girl I pulled from a beer bar near Nana.[/QUOTE]Good find Smoothy, she's very nice, but I think you must admit that she's the exception to the rule.

[QUOTE=Dinotrex;2150505]Do most FLs do their business mostly around the lower Sois? (Soi 4, around the Nana area). Or do they also conduct their business around the upper Sois? (Sois 20's Thru 30's?[/QUOTE]I've only seen FLs up until Asok. 95% on the north side of Sukhumvit. I've seen some on the south side at Asok and closer to Soi 4 and Nana, but the latter were all ladyboys.