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[QUOTE=Wigolon;1642897]Hi guys,

I'm a 30 years old German and new to this forum. I saved up all my holidays this year to go for a bigger trip in January, February or March 2015. What I'm searching for is not a total sex holiday: I've seen places like Pattaya already, but I didn't really like them. Instead I had my best times in other places (Cebu, Phuket, Taipei, Singapore) with non-sexworker girls. It's something like that again I'm trying to find, paysex is just supposed to be a puzzle part in it or the fallback plan in case nothing else is working out. I know it's more difficult to get the normal girls, but I'm gladly investing some time hitting on exotic Asians or Latinas compared to an awful flirt with a German girl. First I was thinking about Vietnam and Cambodia because I've been to some the places in South East Asia and love it there. But now I decided to check out some place in Latin America first because:

1. I've never been to any american country at all and I am excited about it.

2. I speak mediocre Spanish already which gives me hope that I might have a more intense and fulfilling holiday than in Asia because the language barrier is high there.

What I was thinking about was taking a trip to DomRep and Cuba (each about 2 weeks). Reasons: Caribbean islands, hot girls, affordable prices, relatively high security level..[/QUOTE]You need to go to cities and towns off the map, Colombia has a ton of them.

If you are looking for normal girls, good places are towns 1 or 2 hours from Cali, or in Huila.

Girls are not used to seeing gringos here, so fairly easy to pick up. A little Spanish speaking will help.

[QUOTE=Aunsa;1643287]You need to go to cities and towns off the map, Colombia has a ton of them.

If you are looking for normal girls, good places are towns 1 or 2 hours from Cali, or in Huila.

Girls are not used to seeing gringos here, so fairly easy to pick up. A little Spanish speaking will help.[/QUOTE]I hear Paida or how ever you call it is AwwesOme for non pros and even regular girls.

This is in Colombia?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1643288]I hear Paida or how ever you call it is AwwesOme for non pros and even regular girls.[/QUOTE]

Based on your comments and insecurities, I would recommend Medellin over Sosua. I would not pick Cuba asa place because prostitution is not legal there. Medellin and Sosua are both sex paradises as you said. But they are both different experiences. Sosua is a poor town, but it has an amazing clear beach and there are bitches everywhere at night time. Medellin is an amazing mountain town, but there is no beach. The Dominican women are more of the hustlers type and they will often ask for extra favors, take your shampoo, deodorant, condos's if you let them. The DR girls will make you feel sorry for them and ask you in their misery poor lives and said "papy can I have those condoms since you are leaving, can I have that coconut oil, the baselin, that extra phone you have, etc, etc. I find the Dominican more affectionate than the Colombian thought and more easy to find GF experience than Colombians but this varies from person to person. The Colombian women in Medellin are less hustlers type and you find more lighter skin women than the DR. Lots of black and Haitian women in the DR. You are right about many of you assumptions in regard to the looks of Colombian women. The pictures don't lie. They are hot. In Medellin, is where you find the most beautiful Colombian women (and this coming from me a Dominican born guy). Colombian women are obsessed with their bodies and they take good care of the body and many are fit and go to gyms and enhance their features with surgery cause of these body obsession. The Dominicans not so much, but you find fatties and thin women in both countries. If you are looking for a girlfriend, you will find them anywhere if that is what you are looking for and if it it is P4 P the Sosua and Medellin are great destinations. Medellin is not what it used to be in regards to violence and crime. It much safer than the past. The DR has a lot of crime too, so does NY, Chicago, London, Thailand, India, Brazil, Mexico, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Russia, etc. Crime exist anywhere in the world and just like in any major big city of the world you just have to apply common sense and be careful. Don't worry about your mediocre Spanish. Some is helpful, but take the trip as an opportunity to improve it and take lessons from the locals. Both Medellin and Sosua will give you great value for your money. In any case, don't break your head trying to make a decision. Just pick the place that is giving you the greatest urge to go, and book a flight. If it is Medellin or Sosua, there are a lot of resources in this board you can check.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1642897]Hi guys,

I'm a 30 years old German and new to this forum. I saved up all my holidays this year to go for a bigger trip in January, February or March 2015. What I'm searching for is not a total sex holiday: I've seen places like Pattaya already, but I didn't really like them. Instead I had my best times in other places (Cebu, Phuket, Taipei, Singapore) with non-sexworker girls. It's something like that again I'm trying to find, paysex is just supposed to be a puzzle part in it or the fallback plan in case nothing else is working out. I know it's more difficult to get the normal girls, but I'm gladly investing some time hitting on exotic Asians or Latinas compared to an awful flirt with a German girl. First I was thinking about Vietnam and Cambodia because I've been to some the places in South East Asia and love it there. But now I decided to check out some place in Latin America first because:

1. I've never been to any american country at all and I am excited about it.

2. I speak mediocre Spanish already which gives me hope that I might have a more intense and fulfilling holiday than in Asia because the language barrier is high there..[/QUOTE]

Cerebro,

I'm glad you said dominicanas are more affectionate than colombianas. I hope so for my sake.

I disagree with your take on Cuba. It's ilegal on paper but very tolerated by gov. And widely accepted by society. And I'll take cubanas over colombianas any time! So legality is a non-issue. Just stay out of Havana!

But Medellin is the most pleasant town I've ever lived in. Perfect incouraging weather, great healthy food options EVRYWHERE. Great transportation options. And very economic cost of living. Just no beaches!

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1643387]Based on your comments and insecurities, I would recommend Medellin over Sosua. I would not pick Cuba asa place because prostitution is not legal there. Medellin and Sosua are both sex paradises as you said. But they are both different experiences. Sosua is a poor town, t used to be in regards to violence and crime. It much safer than the past. The DR has a lot of crime too, so does NY, Chi...... check.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1643700]Cerebro,

I'm glad you said dominicanas are more affectionate than colombianas. I hope so for my sake.

I disagree with your take on Cuba. It's ilegal on paper but very tolerated by gov. And widely accepted by society. And I'll take cubanas over colombianas any time! So legality is a non-issue. Just stay out of Havana!

But Medellin is the most pleasant town I've ever lived in. Perfect incouraging weather, great healthy food options EVRYWHERE. Great transportation options. And very economic cost of living. Just no beaches![/QUOTE]Well, I BrazilsoccerO, I will disagree with you with some of your comments about Cuba. I think prostitution is widely spread there, but it does not mean that is widely accepted. Just like in Colombia and Dr. Where it is legal, it is also widespread, but it does not make it or means that it is widely accepted by society. I don't know much about the government being tolerant about it, but if they are so tolerant about it why don't they make it legal? Another problem with traveling to Cuba at least from the USA is that it is Communist country and according to the US Department of State "Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under USA Law for USA Citizens and others under USA Jurisdiction". I would not argue with that. I can take easily a plane to Cuba from the USA, but upon my return how.

Do I explain to US Immigration officials what I was doing in Cuba and that I am not.

Breaking the law? There are too many potential problems for USA Citizens for traveling to Cuba. For that reason alone, I take Cuba out of my mongering list of countries even those jjineteras as they call the bitches are amazing beautiful. Another thought, lets say you get arrested in Cuba for being with a prostitute where this trade is "illegal on paper", how do you explain in a Cuban court of law that you are not breaking the law?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1643288]I hear Paida or how ever you call it is AwwesOme for non pros and even regular girls.[/QUOTE]I pronounce it Pea-a-da. Anyway I met a girl from Pereira and she was awesome. 28 years old 1 kid and a killer natural body. I met her on LAC. She was staying in Bogota trying to find work, well she found work. With me She met me 3 times at my apartment early afternoon to late at night. We went out for dinner all 3 nights and had girlfriend sex too many times to count but we never discussed any type of payment. Sunday, I found myself strolling the closed highway with her and her daughter with all the other families, having ice cream ect. It was fun jajajja The night before I left she asked me to call her everyday and to keep in touch because she wanted to have a serious relationship and would wait for my return. At the time I was going to Bogota once every 6 weeks or so. She never once asked for money but I took good care of her for the 3 days we were together. I gave her some perfume and a Lancme makeup kit, lots of restaurants. One of my favorites is Andre's Carne in Chia. I then tried to give her $300 which she initially refused but soon accepted when I told her "I know your not prepago but I want you get something nice for your hija" LOL I love this type of trip. I'm not sure if she works this angle with every American who visits or not but it made for a great trip for me.

To travel to Cuba, Fly to Cancun then to La Havana. Cuba don't stamp your passport.

Cuban, police will not arrest you, they will arrest the Jinetera.

My two Pesos.

Just chilling here in Cancun.

Kukulkan

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1643764]Well, I BrazilsoccerO, I will disagree with you with some of your comments about Cuba. I think prostitution is widely spread there, but it does not mean that is widely accepted. Just like in Colombia and Dr. Where it is legal, it is also widespread, but it does not make it or means that it is widely accepted by society. I don't know much about the government being tolerant about it, but if they are so tolerant about it why don't they make it legal? Another problem with traveling to Cuba at least from the USA is that it is Communist country and according to the US Department of State "Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under USA Law for USA Citizens and others under USA Jurisdiction". I would not argue with that. I can take easily a plane to Cuba from the USA, but upon my return how.

Do I explain to US Immigration officials what I was doing in Cuba and that I am not.

Breaking the law? There are too many potential problems for USA Citizens for traveling to Cuba. For that reason alone, I take Cuba out of my mongering list of countries even those jjineteras as they call the bitches are amazing beautiful. Another thought, lets say you get arrested in Cuba for being with a prostitute where this trade is "illegal on paper", how do you explain in a Cuban court of law that you are not breaking the law?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1644431]
Pereira

I pronounce it Pea-a-da...[/QUOTE]Why do you pronpounce it like that?

How about the "r"s?

They're not silent, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1645267]Why do you pronpounce it like that?

How about the "r"s?

They're not silent, LOL.[/QUOTE]That is funny- I had no idea what he was on about.

[QUOTE=Kukulkan;1645147]To travel to Cuba, Fly to Cancun then to La Havana. Cuba don't stamp your passport.

Cuban, police will not arrest you, they will arrest the Jinetera.

My two Pesos.

Just chilling here in Cancun.

Kukulkan[/QUOTE]Thank you Kukulma. So to get the Jineteras, I have to travel from USA to Mexico then to Cuba and that way avoid the USA radar. Sounds to me like cocaine trafficking and flying close to the water to avoid radar detention. Also, two plane tickets to by to get to Cuba and hope that my USA passport does not get stamp by a Cuban official. I think that is crazy. I would rather stay in Mexico fucking the bitches there. Even if the passport does not get stamp in Cuba, I think it is a terrible risk to take when traveling to Cuba. USA Citizens are prohibited to travel to Cuba as tourist. Just think if by any chance (e. G. An unfortunate accident or a police or hooker set up you end up in a Cuban jail), do you think the US will help you in getting you out of there when you are not supposed to be there in the first place? And what are you going to say that you were doing in Cuba? They can keep you in jail in Cuba forever by just accusing you as a Gringo spy. When the USA stops the restrictions to traveling to Cuba or it becomes legal to travel there, then I will travel and ride the lovely Jineteras.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1646815]Thank you Kukulma. So to get the Jineteras, I have to travel from USA to Mexico then to Cuba and that way avoid the USA radar. Sounds to me like cocaine trafficking and flying close to the water to avoid radar detention. Also, two plane tickets to by to get to Cuba and hope that my USA passport does not get stamp by a Cuban official. I think that is crazy. I would rather stay in Mexico fucking the bitches there. Even if the passport does not get stamp in Cuba, I think it is a terrible risk to take when traveling to Cuba. USA Citizens are prohibited to travel to Cuba as tourist. Just think if by any chance (e. G. An unfortunate accident or a police or hooker set up you end up in a Cuban jail), do you think the US will help you in getting you out of there when you are not supposed to be there in the first place? And what are you going to say that you were doing in Cuba? They can keep you in jail in Cuba forever by just accusing you as a Gringo spy. When the USA stops the restrictions to traveling to Cuba or it becomes legal to travel there, then I will travel and ride the lovely Jineteras.[/QUOTE]It is NOT illegal for a USA Citizen to go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to do business with Cuba or a USA Business to conduct business with Cuba. Therefore an airline cannot travel directly to Cuba and a USA Citizen can not buy a ticket in the USA To go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to buy Cuban made goods and bring them into the USA..The problem is as you pointed out, if you go to Cuba and you find yourself in trouble of any kind or need help you are shit out of luck.

Cerebro:

Thanks for your opinion! Actually after I read more about Cuba now, I've become really unsure if I still want to go there. I mean it's most probably nice to experience that Cuban 50's-like lifestyle (though I'm neither a fan of old timers nor cigars) with all the hot girls of different races around. But though it's apparently possible to get chicas into certain casa particulares or some hotels where they allow one girl, I totally don't like the thought that you cannot walk around freely and without worries together with a girl there: I don't want to get annoyed by security or police because I'm walking with a Cubana, for me it's an important part of the holiday to do that. Not only staying inside the safe room. I don't like this jail lifestyle. Furthermore I don't want to be responsible for the girl's destiny if they catch her for being with a tourist and throw her into real jail. And I guess all of this shit can happen even with non-hookers. (One of the sources: Google "Sex in Cuba: 5 Tips for Hooking Up".

Another con for Cuba is the long travelling distance. I would fly in directly from Germany to Varadero (only option, everything else is indirect and very expensive). And if I want to see Santiago de Cuba as well, I'd have to take an 815 km long trip to go there from Varadero, just to take even more than the same distance back to Havana which is the only place I can fly to Colombia from. The alternative would be to skip Santiago and the whole east of Cuba, but I'm not sure if it's worth the 2 weeks stay then.

What adds up are the other things you need to accept due to the poverty: boring food and rooms without luxury are ok for me, but big difficulties to find internet is a pain in the ass, especially for further planning of the trip. Anyway censored is actually something that I can hardly accept.

Colombia is currently my favorite destination. Thanks for the tip on Pareira by the way.

So I'm still desperate about finalizing my flight plans. Current mood says drop Cuba and take DR in again as first destination. Then I don't have all of the listed cons (few food choices, no internet, police crap, long travelling distances). And incredibly cheap flight from Germany to Puerto Plata. Then flight from Santo Domingo to Bogotá. On the other hand. Maybe it's not possible to travel around safely like it is in Cuba, so maybe the argument for walking around freely with a chica doesn't even apply? What do you think? Better choice than Cuba?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1646858]It is NOT illegal for a USA Citizen to go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to do business with Cuba or a USA Business to conduct business with Cuba. Therefore an airline cannot travel directly to Cuba and a USA Citizen can not buy a ticket in the USA To go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to buy Cuban made goods and bring them into the USA..The problem is as you pointed out, if you go to Cuba and you find yourself in trouble of any kind or need help you are shit out of luck.[/QUOTE]Manizales911,

Thanks for the additional information about the legality for USA Citizens to go to Cuba. I still stand from what I said, thatit is prohibited for USA Citizens to travel to Cuba. If not, why you can't fly from the USA and instead have to go to Mexico. Some even go to great lenghts to get a Mexican passport to pretend to be Mexicans and not get their USA Passport stamped? Also, on your note.

That it is okay to travel but not to do any business with Cuba. How can you prevent not doing any business? Aren't we doing business with Cuba when we book flight to Cuba, book a hotel, charge a credit card, buy food in Cuban restaurant or supermarket, conduct a P4 P business transaction with a jinetera, etc, etc. I think People from the USA that go to Cuba are putting themselves at a huge risk for violating USA law. I took the information of the prohibition from the Department of State website: [URL]http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/country/cuba.html[/URL].

The following is noted:

TOURIST VISA REQUIRED:

Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under USA Law for USA Citizens and others under USA Jurisdiction.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1646975]Cerebro:

So I'm still desperate about finalizing my flight plans. Current mood says drop Cuba and take DR in again as first destination. Then I don't have all of the listed cons (few food choices, no internet, police crap, long travelling distances). And incredibly cheap flight from Germany to Puerto Plata. Then flight from Santo Domingo to Bogot. On the other hand. Maybe it's not possible to travel around safely like it is in Cuba, so maybe the argument for walking around freely with a chica doesn't even apply? What do you think? Better choice than Cuba?[/QUOTE]Wigolon,

As A USA Citizen, my views on traveling to Cuba are rather bias because of the restrictions that we have to travel there. I can.

Not really comment on the Cuban Jineteras because I have never been to Cuba. So your idea of going to DR and / or Colombia seems best to me. Both countries will give you great value for your money. To me is about the same cost. If you go to DR, take a flight to Puerto Plata airport and stay in Sosua. Don't go to Punta Cana is more for family tourism. Sosua is a beach town located in the same municipality of Puerto Plata so it is not to far from the airport. It is were the best chicas and P4 P action in the DR. Chicas from all over the Dominican Republic go to Sosua, so it is where you will find the most variety and beautiful women. There are a lot of dark skin Dominican and Haitians Chicas there if you like the morenas and big booties. There are not that many white Dominicans and they are the minority. P4P is negotiable and ranges from $30 to $50 for 1-2 hours. The Haitians tend to be cheaper. Sosua has a beautiful clear water beach. The weather is hot and humid all year long. Please note that there are a lot hustlers including the chicas in most touristic towns including as this is a sort of a way of life there. Dominican women are more desperate financially than the Colombians so they tend to be very needed and they will make you feel sorry for them and ask you often for extra money for their babies, for taxi, for your personal items. Therefore, you have to be firm and say I am sorry but can't give the items you requested because you need that cream, the shampoo, the shavers, the condoms, etc. They are also tend to be very affectionate and that is part of their Hustling charm which makes it difficult for many man to say no when they ask for extras. Also, Sosua is a typical ghetto Dominican town, very poor and with many delinquents. So you always have to be cautious whenever you go out, but being cautious applies to being anywhere in the world you go. In Sosua, you must find a chica friendly hotel or Aparta hotel near the beach and the main strip to reduce the walking at night by yourself or taking taxis or motoconchos. You need a chica friendly place to to bring your chica because there are not that many places where you could do the fucking in. That is more for the casas in Colombia. Here is an aparta hotel near the beach and strip and not too expensive or about $50 per night / studio: [URL]http://perladesosua.com/.[/URL] There is also a small surfing town called Cabarette next to Sosua that has a nice beach strip with lots of nice bars and restaurants and many chicas at night. I stayed in the.

Cabarette town last August and found a nice beach front apartment for $30 per night [URL]http://sanssoucicabarete.com/.[/URL] If you decide to go to Colombia, I would recommend Medellin over Bogota. The general consensus is that the people from Bogota are not as friendly as in Medellin and are more snobby. Medellin is located way up in the mountains. No beach is the only negative I could think of. The weather in Medellin is Spring all year long. It is a cosmopolitan and great beautiful city. The women are absolutely beautiful. They are not as needed as the Dominican and they are less hustlers or don't ask much for extras. In the bars and clubs and some strip clubs, you have to approach them. Not like in the DR where they are hunters and will approach you often. Many white Colombian women in Medellin and not too many black women. If you like black women, you won't like Medellin cause they are the minorities, the reverse of the DR. Prices from the chicas ranges from $15 to $75 for 30 min to 2 hours and depending on the place and service. You have many options of where to stay. You could rent a studio apt with 1) board member Aunsa at the town of Laureles for $35 dollar and up a night and he offers help in orienting you to places in Medellin. I also found a nice apartment in Laureles for $30 per nigh.

2) [URL]http://tuapartamentomde.com/[/URL] or you could rent with another board member 3) [URL]http://www.colombiajake.com/[/URL] for $35 per night and and he also has tours to the casas and offers services like hooking up with Colombian women. I never tried Colombiajake but perhaps in my next trip to Medellin, I will book with him. There is another board member (Bbrocs) who rents apartment in the poblado area near parque Lleras beginning at $70 per night 3) [URL]http://www.pobladorentals.com/index.php?f=2&mid=1.[/URL] You can also book for a few days at the famous mongering place hotel casa blanca / la mansion. Recommended by many board members and for newbies who want mongering support and chicas on site. This place has changed names many times and is now called 5) hotel medellin [URL]http://www.hotelmedellinm.com/.[/URL] Good luck with your trip. And don't forget to write a report on your adventure.