Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1298901]1. My previous trip to Cambodia 2 years ago.

2. My previous trip to Thailand 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]I just spent 11 days in PP on my first ever visit. It was a work assignment and I was very restricted in what I could do as I had "minders". I don't know what the "good old days" were like but I found it reasonable and I am sure I could have had a good time with companions if I had not been working.

I did get to Walkabout Bar early one evening just to do a reconnaissance and there were 3 or 4 very presentable girls giving me the eye. I went over to HOD and it was wall to wall girls so definitely available. I was not in the market so I never checked the price but I am sure the odds are stacked in your favor with many more girls than punters.

I went to the small mall nearby and it seemed there were a number of Foxtrot Limas strolling around too.

I ended up having the hotel call me some 3 different masseuses on 3 separate evenings as I wanted to feel secure as I was working. Each one was available to go the extra service option. They all asked ridiculous prices initially but I refused to go over $20 full service with condom inc massage and all accepted it when they saw that I was not going to budge.

[quote]They all asked ridiculous prices initially[/quote]What kind of numbers?

[QUOTE=TConor;1293182]Are they still around? What's the cross street area?[/QUOTE]I spoke to a buddy of mines a few weeks ago and he said that the places were closed down due to police raids. I don't know if the closure is temporary or permanent but that news really depressed me a lot. I had a favorite Viet there. Then I saw that report on HD net about Cambodia! Yikes! Things were bad enough when I was there in 2009. Now it seems that it has gotten worse. At least backthen the tuk tuk drivers were honest enough not to want to take you somewhere, where you might get busted. But now that they can make money by reporting your activites to the cops, NGOS, I would be really leery of anyone that I did not know. Every body is making money on the Barang. When I come back to monger it will be in the late hours of the night when those motherfuckers are sleeping or when it is really obvious that someone is trailing you around. You guys that fucked around in the late 90's really had it good.

Hi experinced guys,

Can anybody please enlighten me how do mongering and hotel costs in Pp in comparison to Thailand and Phillipines.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha; 1300490]Hi experinced guys,

Can anybody please enlighten me how do mongering and hotel costs in Pp in comparison to Thailand and Phillipines.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Very funny. Now get out your reading glasses. Why are there so many of these posts by lazy people who don't want to read back 20 pages? Isn't it just common sense to read back that many pages before or on a trip to the location? Are you really that lazy Pagal Chacha?

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1299920]What kind of numbers?[/QUOTE]Each one said $50 for FS.

When I laughed out loud and said "including the massage (which was $5 + tip) they each said "no. Extra". Each of the 3 used the same spiel (maybe they had the same coach / tutor)

Once they saw I was NOT going near that figure the negotiations were easy and stress-free and we got down to $20 soon enough without spoiling the "mood".

One girl absolutely refused FS for $20 but I indulged because she was an extremely attractive woman and she gave me a great happy ending HJ and took off her top for a play so for $20 it was an expensive massage but she left me smiling and happy so why not.

[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha; 1300490]Hi experinced guys,

Can anybody please enlighten me how do mongering and hotel costs in Pp in comparison to Thailand and Phillipines.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I must agree with Hatguy PC.

All your questions are answered in around 5 to 10 pages on this thread and others under Cambodia, and probably a few answers to questions that you forgot to ask.

If you are really serious about having a good time you will do your homework and see the cross-section of views from a range of different posts.

Everyone has different experiences so you need to get a range of views.

Reading the forum will help you out very very well.

My response in one line: Cambodia is cheaper than Thailand and Philippines but much bigger risk of being scammed or set up.

[QUOTE=Vielendank;1301074]I concur with Red Kilt. The biggest difference with Cambodia, then almost everywhere else in SE Asia, are the prices of both the women an hotels. Extremely cheap to monger there. When you book a hotel make sure you ask them if they have in room safes. For example, the Walkabout Hotel is one you hear about alot but they do NOT have safes in the room. If you want to secure an item they hold it for you at the front desk area in a lockbox. I happen to really like Cambodia because there is much less pressure and the girls are a lot less aggressive, at least in my experiences. Thailand, to me, is like a big prostitute business. Philippines is the same but the girls are sweeter and will stay with you all night with no issues. Cambodia they are not as hardcore. Again, these are my experiences. I found that when I was there I would find on tuk tuk guy and pay him $10. 00 a day to be there when I needed him. They will take you anywhere you want to go any hour of the day or night. And they are pretty loyal too. I never had one try to take me to a bar that was run by one of his friends and / or was getting a kickback. Your best to find a hotel that is walking distance to the main bar area which, I believe is Street 51. Like anywhere else, if you get drunk and act a fool you will get in trouble. If you have a wingman or trusted tuk tuk guy you are much better off. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Than you Vilendank for constructive and useful information

Phnom penh is still a great place to meet girls. Too much hand wringing here from sick fucks who used to frequent k11or st 63. I prefer women to children so there is no problem with the authorities.

Rue pasteur and sts 104 and 136 still have good bars as do sts 118, 130 and st 110.

St 110 is frequented a lot by expats and there are five bars there that have nice girls.

The walkabout can still have the odd pretty girl, sharky is past it but martini can still be interesting.

The heart is packed with dodgy girls, it is far better at pontoon where there is a mix of working girls and girls who have jobs but are having a night out but may still be available.

Shanghai has a nice line up pretty often, the girls are a cut above ordinary bar girls and have to be cultivated but they can be worth the effort.

Cambodia is not Thailand, the girls are not professionals mostly. They want to get married and have children, the numbers who return with babies and a baring husband at Christmas is amazing.

[QUOTE=Phil Istine;1301593]it is far better at pontoon where there is a mix of working girls and girls who have jobs but are having a night out but may still be available.[/QUOTE]Excellent report, directly to the point.

Any more clubs to meet non-pro or dating-Sites?

In two weeks I am there spend already 3K$ for new DSLR, low-light lenses, umbrellas and lighting. I need a good girl to shot a video clip.

[quote=phil istine; 1301593]phnom penh is still a great place to meet girls. too much hand wringing here from sick fucks who used to frequent k11or st 63. i prefer women to children so there is no problem with the authorities.[/quote]as usual the same inacurate info. have you know svay pak and street 63 during the golden age in the beginning of 2000's? probably not.

i give you a tip, check in the photo gallery section and you will plenty pictures of this old time. and surprisingly you will see that legal age girls was in large number. i don t said **** childs was not avalaible, but no childs was working inside the km11 brothels i mean, the main brothel alley.

it was secret and ashame business doing in other part of svay pak.

i am ever wondering why some people write again about this place. probably they think the legend is still alive. sorry guys you come too late!

2) street 63 never got reputation for **** girl, ever tommy, lay lay has such kind of offers. since 2006 the st 63 brothels are the perfect places for being robbed, some will simply said "no barang", it's not the place it used to be anymore.

i am ever surprise you don t mentioned toul kok.

just last thing what you mean by women? i am sorry because in cambodia it s hard to find women in her 30/40's working in brothels. since they are my favourites i m feel a bit frustrated in cambodia.

[QUOTE=Phil Istine;1301593]The heart is packed with dodgy girls, it is far better at pontoon where there is a mix of working girls and girls who have jobs but are having a night out but may still be available.[/QUOTE]Agree with most of your post, but not with the above.

I don't know if Pontoon has a number of grey girls who go there to make some extra cash or to find a Barang boyfriend or husband.

But stating that the working girls at HOD are more dodgy than the ones at Pontoon is simply laughable. If you know anything about the st 51 area you would know that the girls all jump from one place to another, simply going where the punters / dollars are.

If it's a quiet night at Heart they'll simply try their luck at Pontoon or even hang around Walkabout or Golden Sorya Mall for a while.

[QUOTE=Channy;1301706]As usual the same inacurate info.[/QUOTE]Channy, can you put me in touch with where you buy your hallucinogens? Sounds like you get some really good stuff. [wink]

[QUOTE=Leftfield1965; 1301938]Agree with most of your post, but not with the above.

I don't know if Pontoon has a number of grey girls who go there to make some extra cash or to find a Barang boyfriend or husband.

But stating that the working girls at HOD are more dodgy than the ones at Pontoon is simply laughable. If you know anything about the st 51 area you would know that the girls all jump from one place to another, simply going where the punters / dollars are.

If it's a quiet night at Heart they'll simply try their luck at Pontoon or even hang around Walkabout or Golden Sorya Mall for a while.[/QUOTE]I got a really nice girl from Heart of Darkness. Yes it was in January and everything changes but I will go back there. Partly in the hope to see her again but mostly in the hope that I will get another similar one.