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[QUOTE=Tony Toro]I can get my rocks off on a hot looking girl even if she is somewhat of a dead fish. Harder for me personally with an ugly girl no matter how good her service is. One of the reasons I prefer to source girls in bars is because it gives me the opportunity to look around, see what she's like, watch her for a while, then buy a drink and talk to her. This usually ensures I get good looking and good service. Not fool proof, I've been wrong before and will be wrong again... but it works for me most of the time.[/QUOTE]

I second Tony T on the quality thing. I once acted like I nutted after I was sorely dissappointed by a girls breasts in Mexico once. Her bra helped her sagging tits so much that when she took her bra off her tits went right to the floor, and so did my dick. That is when I had her turn over and did the whoodini on her without the surprise cumshot in her face. But then again, some guys can nut to anything, just as long as it had two legs and a hole. I never understood when I was young why a guy I knew dated a girl with down syndrome that had an amazing body. Oh well, that aint me.

TB

We are all different and have different likes and dislikes. For me service and enthusiasm are paramount. Aside from tits going to the floor and Downs syndrome, I can enjoy the appearance of many women that perhaps Tony and TB would never consider. However, if a woman treats me badly or has no interest at all in love making, then she may as well have both Downs syndrome and tits sagging to the floor. I will have wasted my time, effort and money. That goes for p4p , freebies, wives and concubines.
[QUOTE=Tommy Boy]I second Tony T on the quality thing. I once acted like I nutted after I was sorely dissappointed by a girls breasts in Mexico once. Her bra helped her sagging tits so much that when she took her bra off her tits went right to the floor, and so did my dick. That is when I had her turn over and did the whoodini on her without the surprise cumshot in her face. But then again, some guys can nut to anything, just as long as it had two legs and a hole. I never understood when I was young why a guy I knew dated a girl with down syndrome that had an amazing body. Oh well, that aint me.

TB[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbourne1234]I'd also be interested in hearing about 3some experiences as not found any info about who offers it in HK?[/QUOTE]
Bro, Some options for you (1) go to a bar in Wan Chai and find a couple of Fil or Indo girls who are friendly and up for it. (2) Get a couple of willing 141 girls by calling the agent and asking who he has that's up for it. Be warned though, results vary. Some Bros love, others are under whelmed because the girls spend too much time chatting to each other in "their" lingo and not enough time sucking your dick or fingering eachother... lets be honest, that's what you want right...

For Bro Lowtech and others who have asked about pricing:

I posted this originally in another thread in the 141 forum. I hope it is helpful. As with any "PRICE GUIDE" there are many variables that can effect the outcome, however this represents a good starting point for punters new to this scene.

(1) what do you mean by ST and LT? For example, a regular visitor to HG's may say that a ST is 45 mins while a long time is a double session of 90 mins to 2 hours. On the other hand, when you pick a girl up at a bar a ST usually means 2 - 3 hours while a LT may mean over night.

(2) what day is it? Girls want more on Fridays and Saturdays. They want more when the bar is busy and there are lots of punters. Obviously that also means they will accept less on quiet nights when it's cold outside.

(3) chemistry... This is the big one. Walk up to a girl and say "how much *****?" or have a "I'm better than you attitude" and your price will go up. Act drunk, aggressive, over bearing and your price will be sky high. Buy the girl a drink, relax, listen to some music, have a dance and treat her like a human being instead of a ***** and you will get a much better deal. Other issues are common sense... if you own a Rolex, be sure to tell her you bought it at the market... they do look at how you are dressed.

(4) just accept they do not care how "good looking" you are, or you "think" you are... they care about your money. The only issue is that if they can have some fun and friendship while they are taking your money they like it better. They would much prefer a polite and considerate ugly guy than a handsome prick. Of course, if you're good looking as well that's great... but they don't care. They'd much rather you look "successful".

(5) what are you looking for? Fil, Thai, INDO, Vietnam, Local girl?

Best "value" will be Filipina girls. I have had my share but not really my scene. I know lots of Bros who do their nuts over them though so each to his own... at a Wan Chai Bar it is possible you could get HKD600 ~ 1,000 for an over nighter. She will not be drop dead gorgeous though. I've seen some Bros go back to their room with some average looking gals.

If you are checking out the Bar scene, and you want hot looking women, a price guide is as follows:
(this is the price you should pay, NOT the price they will initially ask for)
I am basing the prices on really good looking girls 8/10 or better... you will need to talk to them and assess whether or not the service will be good yourself.

Nationality / comment / ST 2 - 3 hours HK$ / LT overnight HK$

Japan / Hard to find & need some nurturing to get anywhere near a GFE / 1500 / 3000
Korea / sometimes lots, other times scarce, find a good one and WOW / 1200 / 2000
Mongolia / YUM, YUM YUM!!! I can only say try and you will know / 1000 / 2000
China / very good value but not a huge choice available in bars in HK / 800 / 1200
Russian / Can be very HOT but moody / 1500 / 2500
Filipina / Biggest range of choice, speak great English and offer solid GFE / 800 / 1500
Thai / Can be stunning looking... STUNNING... but there's always the chance that... / 800 / 1500
Vietnam / Gorgeous often stunning but all about $$$, hard to get real GFE / 1000 / 2000

These are just "typical" rates. You can put the price up by acting like a jerk. You can reduce the price by being polite and also by seeing the same gal 2 - 3 nights in a row. If you meet a girl at 9pm Friday night and want LT, you will pay more than if you meet her at 1am. You can also get a better price by picking a less beautiful gal. etc...

You can also get lower pricing by choosing a less attractive girl. No doubt there are Bros who will say that they picked up a 8 or 9 standard girl and only paid... "whatever". That's great! However what is 8 or 9 for me may only be 6 or 7 to you. The reality is this: The more popular a girl is with punters generally, the more money she will want from you. The fact you may or may not be a handsome cool dude is not what she's looking for, she wants YOUR money.

Over time, it is definitely possible to lower rates by developing a friendship, no doubt this can lower your prices significant as she learns you are not an aggressive pain in the ass to deal with... but not after chatting for 5 minutes in a bar.

[QUOTE=Tony Toro]For Bro Lowtech and others who have asked about pricing:

Best "value" will be Filipina girls. I have had my share but not really my scene. I know lots of Bros who do their nuts over them though so each to his own... at a Wan Chai Bar it is possible you could get HKD600 ~ 1,000 for an over nighter. She will not be drop dead gorgeous though. I've seen some Bros go back to their room with some average looking gals.

I am basing the prices on really good looking girls 8/10 or better... you will need to talk to them and assess whether or not the service will be good yourself.Over time, it is definitely possible to lower rates by developing a friendship, no doubt this can lower your prices significant as she learns you are not an aggressive pain in the ass to deal with... but not after chatting for 5 minutes in a bar.[/QUOTE]

After years of mongering in HK I agree with everything TT has said but would add from my own personal experience that treating the girls with respect etc pays also dividends.
One thing is for sure - only your wallet counts but they are also expert at making you feel that its YOU they want as well. One thing that TT did not mention is age. I agree looks don't matter and neither does age - I am living proof of that! I have been told often that the girls prefer "older" guys - they give less hastle.
As for Nationalities I just can't look past Filipinas for the GFE experience. No other comes near it IMHO. If you choose to see them several times - remember they are normally only there for 14 days - the price comes down and afternoon "room service" as I call it is generally free. Immigration has made life difficult for the girls and many cannot now make the repeat journey from the Philippines but if they do and you have been "nice" to them the price comes down considerably if you meet up with them after a gap of a year or so. HK$1000 is all you need to pay for LT. The other thing is that beauty is in the eye of the beholder - so if she is an 8/9 in your eye that's fine and all that matters.

Name : Yo Yo Add to My Favourite Bookmark and Share
Addr : Hotel Reservation, Tsim Sha Tsui
Tel : 6@@@@@@@8
Hour : 12:30-02:00
Height : 5'6"
Size : 36F-24.5-35
Race : China (Cantonese, Mandarin, English)
Service : HK$ 800
Negotiable for overnight

This is a knock down gorgeous young lady. But the question is will anyone ever see her open the door after they knock. If they do, then I will stop alerting fellow mongers to this underhanded pimp/operator.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]Name : Yo Yo Add to My Favourite Bookmark and Share
Addr : Hotel Reservation, Tsim Sha Tsui
Tel : 6@@@@@@@8
Hour : 12:30-02:00
Height : 5'6"
Size : 36F-24.5-35
Race : China (Cantonese, Mandarin, English)
Service : HK$ 800
Negotiable for overnight

This is a knock down gorgeous young lady. But the question is will anyone ever see her open the door after they knock. If they do, then I will stop alerting fellow mongers to this underhanded pimp/operator.[/QUOTE]
you've had B&S problems here?

Recently I went for a visit in the Hong Kong side (near by North Point MTR).

Overall service was good, I would expect she is late twenties.

Covered BJ, accompanying shower, various position for ML. Damage is 380.

I seldom try 141 hotel girl, in which I think young and pretty one usually with less service.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]After years of mongering in HK I agree with everything TT has said but would add from my own personal experience that treating the girls with respect etc pays also dividends.[/QUOTE]
spot on Jack, a little bit of chemistry goes a long way in terms of lowering the price. I figure the first time you go with a girl, "you" could be (as far as she is concerned) an axe murderer, an aggressive prick, a weirdo, a non payer etc... So there would be something of a "surcharge" factored in. Once the girl gets to know you, say your 2nd or 3rd visit, she has a decision to make...

would she rather go with you where she knows she will have a good time, no major drama and walk out paid and happy for HK$1,000 OR roll the dice on some new guy offering HK$1,500?

Being nice goes a long way to saving you money.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]Name : Yo Yo Add to My Favourite Bookmark and Share
Addr : Hotel Reservation, Tsim Sha Tsui
Tel : 6@@@@@@@8
Hour : 12:30-02:00
Height : 5'6"
Size : 36F-24.5-35
Race : China (Cantonese, Mandarin, English)
Service : HK$ 800
Negotiable for overnight

This is a knock down gorgeous young lady. But the question is will anyone ever see her open the door after they knock. If they do, then I will stop alerting fellow mongers to this underhanded pimp/operator.[/QUOTE]Is this what one calls sharing in a forum?

Tony

Yes, this operator bait and switched me twice in March. If you live in HK I suggest you TOFTT and try the girl in question out. If you get the one in the photo, then great, but I doubt that will happen.

Very well said, Mr. Toro, coming from a 4 year Wan Chai vet who just discovered this site. I suggest all newbies take Mr. Toro's comments as the guide to Wan Chai.

[QUOTE=Tony Toro]For Bro Lowtech and others who have asked about pricing:

I posted this originally in another thread in the 141 forum. I hope it is helpful. As with any "PRICE GUIDE" there are many variables that can effect the outcome, however this represents a good starting point for punters new to this scene.

(1) what do you mean by ST and LT? For example, a regular visitor to HG's may say that a ST is 45 mins while a long time is a double session of 90 mins to 2 hours. On the other hand, when you pick a girl up at a bar a ST usually means 2 - 3 hours while a LT may mean over night.

(2) what day is it? Girls want more on Fridays and Saturdays. They want more when the bar is busy and there are lots of punters. Obviously that also means they will accept less on quiet nights when it's cold outside.

(3) chemistry... This is the big one. Walk up to a girl and say "how much *****?" or have a "I'm better than you attitude" and your price will go up. Act drunk, aggressive, over bearing and your price will be sky high. Buy the girl a drink, relax, listen to some music, have a dance and treat her like a human being instead of a ***** and you will get a much better deal. Other issues are common sense... if you own a Rolex, be sure to tell her you bought it at the market... they do look at how you are dressed.

(4) just accept they do not care how "good looking" you are, or you "think" you are... they care about your money. The only issue is that if they can have some fun and friendship while they are taking your money they like it better. They would much prefer a polite and considerate ugly guy than a handsome prick. Of course, if you're good looking as well that's great... but they don't care. They'd much rather you look "successful".

(5) what are you looking for? Fil, Thai, INDO, Vietnam, Local girl?

Best "value" will be Filipina girls. I have had my share but not really my scene. I know lots of Bros who do their nuts over them though so each to his own... at a Wan Chai Bar it is possible you could get HKD600 ~ 1,000 for an over nighter. She will not be drop dead gorgeous though. I've seen some Bros go back to their room with some average looking gals.

If you are checking out the Bar scene, and you want hot looking women, a price guide is as follows:
(this is the price you should pay, NOT the price they will initially ask for)
I am basing the prices on really good looking girls 8/10 or better... you will need to talk to them and assess whether or not the service will be good yourself.

Nationality / comment / ST 2 - 3 hours HK$ / LT overnight HK$

Japan / Hard to find & need some nurturing to get anywhere near a GFE / 1500 / 3000
Korea / sometimes lots, other times scarce, find a good one and WOW / 1200 / 2000
Mongolia / YUM, YUM YUM!!! I can only say try and you will know / 1000 / 2000
China / very good value but not a huge choice available in bars in HK / 800 / 1200
Russian / Can be very HOT but moody / 1500 / 2500
Filipina / Biggest range of choice, speak great English and offer solid GFE / 800 / 1500
Thai / Can be stunning looking... STUNNING... but there's always the chance that... / 800 / 1500
Vietnam / Gorgeous often stunning but all about $$$, hard to get real GFE / 1000 / 2000

These are just "typical" rates. You can put the price up by acting like a jerk. You can reduce the price by being polite and also by seeing the same gal 2 - 3 nights in a row. If you meet a girl at 9pm Friday night and want LT, you will pay more than if you meet her at 1am. You can also get a better price by picking a less beautiful gal. etc...

You can also get lower pricing by choosing a less attractive girl. No doubt there are Bros who will say that they picked up a 8 or 9 standard girl and only paid... "whatever". That's great! However what is 8 or 9 for me may only be 6 or 7 to you. The reality is this: The more popular a girl is with punters generally, the more money she will want from you. The fact you may or may not be a handsome cool dude is not what she's looking for, she wants YOUR money.

Over time, it is definitely possible to lower rates by developing a friendship, no doubt this can lower your prices significant as she learns you are not an aggressive pain in the ass to deal with... but not after chatting for 5 minutes in a bar.[/QUOTE]

In the Thailand forum there is a useful thread called "Places to Avoid". If my report keeps one fellow monger from being bait and switched by the same operator/pimp like I was, then I consider it worthwhile.

Call it what you like Twiceaweek. Let's here what you have to share.

What does 服務所有人仕PD mean on 141 listings? Service everyone what?

PD = Physically Disabled

Could someone explain the process of going to a place like Hari's and pick out a girl? I know there are reports, and I've read them, but since I don't drink alcohol, I just want to know the flow.

Give her the look and approach her right up?

Thanks in advance