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[QUOTE=Blakman;2505099]You walk up to a puta show 300 mil to my house on your translater and off you go.
.[/QUOTE]Not really though.
Anyone who speaks the local lingo, know how much better the price and the experience can be.
Common sense really.
Of course you can get by with your Translator.
All transactional and that's great.
Just not as great, LOL.
Went back to Energy Fantasia Spa. Decent lineup. I went with the penultimate girl that walked in: probably a 6. 5, but her attitude seemed a solid 9. She was chipper, flicking her her and stuff when she did the walk, as if she's really trying to land my business. I appreciated that, and chose her. 140 k, one hour.
Based on JjBee's tip, I asked the madam for a room with hot water. My lady led me to the room. She threw on some reggaeton. She started dancing, and she's buzzing while she's doing it. All from the heart with this gal. And her bottom is. Let me just say generous. Perfectly round. Not hard, and has a few birthmarks on it that may turn somebody off, but I loved it. Turned out to not even be fake. Tatas are fake, see-cups, non-intrusive. I kept on the boxers and had her keep on the lingerie. We chatted for 10 minutes. Talked about travel, food, stuff. Then she slipped her hand below boxers and began massaging the wolf. He rose to salute her. 10 minutes there. Then she got up to get the condom.
She did this move that I haven't seen other chicks do: she took out a Halls, and began sucking on it before going down on me. Apparently the menthol or whatever is felt on your old friend as well. Felt it especially later when I was hitting it. Weird, but cool.
I went with sideways first. Great mirrors. And she's surprisingly tight. And she's a sweetheart. Another position. Then I went to my favorite: she belly down all the way, and I from behind. Man, that ass feels like something. Few minutes in and the wolf was howling. Hot shower. She's very, very lovely. Has a sweet smile, dimples and a gleam in her eye. Grabbed her number. Told her next time, mismo deniro, pero en mi casa. She's into it.
Uber back, couple of tacos in Provenza, walked through Lleras back to my spot. Surprisingly minimal amount of chicas went I walked through, around 10 pm.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2504882]Entertaining. I am not questioning the veracity of your Report, but I thought "tall" and "Paisa" were mutually exclusive terms. I randomly tagged five Paisas in a row in Medellin and not one of them was over 5 feet tall.[/QUOTE]Ha. Know what you mean. But yes, confirmed with her that she's paisa. She's coming over tomorrow. She knows how to do business, this girl. Sends me "good morning" texts and shit.
Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2505128]Not really though.
Anyone who speaks the local lingo, know how much better the price and the experience can be.
Common sense really.
Of course you can get by with your Translator.
All transactional and that's great.
Just not as great, LOL.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Combo;2505120]This would be important news for many of us. I have a trip in two weeks, but I can't risk getting stuck there so it may not happen.[/QUOTE]Just returning from Medellin last week, and in following the number of cases being reported in Medellin during the last few weeks, there has not been an upward surge contrary to what many thought would occur since the lifting of the lockdown.
As far as getting stuck in Medellin, when you think about Colombia dropping the testing requirement to enter the Country a few weeks ago, it say's a lot.
The economy has been so devastated, that basically they are welcoming anyone in that wants to come in. And yes, upon arrival checking your temperature, which wasn't the case upon returning to the USA at least in FLL last week.
I can't imagine them shutting the Country down again like they did in March given the financial devastation, albeit they may start excluding visitors from the USA which would be a problem for those wanting to return to the USA, yet nothing has been predictable to date.
I think the timing is good right now to visit Medellin before things change, which hopefully Colombia won't go thru as is occurring in the colder climate Countries of the world right now.
Since returning from Colombia last week, I wonder now if I should of stayed in Colombia given what's happening in the USA, it's mind boggling thinking that 200,000 a day are getting infected.
I wish I could just go into hibernation and come out at the end of all this but unfortunately I cannot.
I grappled with the decision you appear to be trying to make now as whether to go, or not to go, and cancelled three flights before pulling the trigger. I had a great time and some great memories to savior until I return which hopefully be early next year.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2505137]Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense.
.[/QUOTE]Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2505137]Money is number one factor in getting a puta to session. Not the effectiveness of speaking the language. Thats why fat or unattractive individual has an equal chance of getting a chica. Money is the deciding factor. Common sense balbonehead LOL. Nothing personal. What you are saying only applies if a girl is looking more than a sexual encounter. Common sense..[/QUOTE]All due respect Blakman, but I think your missing the point. It has nothing to do about money, but about everything else. Think about the issues you had with the one Chica where the Police showed up, or the various disputes you've had with your other Chicas. You have to ask yourself if you don't think speaking the language could of made a difference in the outcomes.
I rest my case.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2504729]Any booth comes with a 650 k fee.
Included is a bottle. If you buy a bottle for 200 k you're still paying 650 k.
So buy a bottle for 500-600 k.
The girls will take turns making rounds to be seen by you.
My suggestion walk around and maybe invite one or 2 girls over and negotiate when you think you've found the one.
Lately I bring normal girls to Gustos just to party and have fun and even though they all know it's putas in there I tell them I have a friend who works there since the whole staff will give me VIP treatment and I'll always cut the line.
Tbh I haven't pulled from there in my last 4 trips there.
But it's still a place I like to go to.[/QUOTE]Sang,
I will just tell you how my trips to Medellin have been different than yours. No judgement just different.
So I will give a little background first. I have mongering for decades and having sex with hookers got to the point of being fast food. I went to Argentina and the Argentine I picked up out of Madaho's fucked me like I had never been fucked before. In hindsight, it was because I was American, and her country was in a horrible crisis, and she thought I was her knight in shining armor. It didn't last as she saw me out with a different girl and was pissed I hadn't devoted myself to her.
In the USA sex prison, I found that with the loss of shame, I could have a SB and get the same kind of sex I got in Argentina. Seeing a hooker was like getting fast food versus a gourmet meal. I first tried [URL]seeking.com[/URL] in 2009 at the height of the Great Recession and landed smoking hot women from the site before it got overloaded with scam artists.
People have accused me of paying women to like them. That is not it. I remember being told sex is so much better when you are in love. That is not it IMO. What I have learned is I get better sex if it is not ALL about money. If a woman just cares about money, the best you will get is a woman doing just enough to fuck you to pick up the cash in most cases.
So I do the sugar baby thing not because I want friends or because I have women who adore me. The main reason I did it was to have the best sex.
About a year ago, I went to Medellin I met a civil engineer student and had a drink with her. She is one of the women in the photo I posted below and no she is not the mother.
I don't speak great Spanish and we had to use google translate. A lot of people have a hard time picking it up (I know weird right?) but she got it in no time. She was valedictorian at her high school class in Bucaramanga. She also makes and sells swimsuits on the side and has worked at an answering center. She gets no help from her parents and has paid her way through school. She is pretty, maybe an 8 or 9 but talent wise nonsexually she is a 10, real wife material. I really enjoyed meeting her, but she was not having sex the first time we met. She made that clear. I paid for an uber I think and that was it.
She came and saw me in Bogota the next time I came to Colombia and it was clear we were going to have sex. She would not French kiss or give me a blowjob. She had a migraine when she came to Bogota and was not in a good mood. In bed, she was in much the same shitty mood, "I am not doing that. Kissing you with tongues or your penis is gross. " Finally, I got pissed at her and let her have it. I told her that I had other women in Colombia who would kiss me, who would suck my cock, and I could get one up there in 10 minutes. I told her for being such a smart girl that she should not be at a loss as to what I was paying her for. "I am paying you to please me, to make me feel good, and it is clear to me that you have no concept what that means. " We had pretty lame sex that night, slept in the same bed that night, and I thought I was done with her for good.
I was surprisingly hard in the morning and she gave me a handjob, climbed on top and to my surprise, she had loosened up enough that she came. Later, she texted me for money, and I said my money only goes to women who are interested in pleasing me. She was practically in tears one time for money for her mother, who really was sick, and I gave her a little that one time.
When I last went to Colombia, I was not sure I was going to see her. I got blown off for a day by another girl so I called her up. She came to my hotel, but she didn't have enough for a swimsuit, so I paid for that and lunch, and that is it though the swimsuit was not as cheap as one she could have made herself. I learned swimsuits typically have 50 cents of material. LOL.
So we go to the hotel and start making out by the pool and then we go to the room and finally I saw what I had hoped all this time. She showed me what a great lover she could be if she devoted herself to sex and to pleasing me. I have had a few women ride me who were better but she climbed on me bare and she had gave me everything she had. She came two or three times but it was the effort, the sweat, the grunting, the crazy shaking orgasms. It was a major turn on to see a woman go from "I am not doing that" to "I am going to do all I can to please you". From a woman who went from giving me so little, the dam had broke, and she gave me everything she had. Think about that for a second. How many times have you been with a woman and she really gave you all that she had?
She sent me the nicest text when we were done and ended it with te quiero. She said that even though she knows I see other women. Guys may think the women I see are fucking other men, and I cannot certain if they are not, but with her, I doubt it. She seems way too uptight for that. She told me that she had been with two guys prior to me and she sure acted like it.
Her father was sick with Covid and was on a ventilator when we were together but he got better. A few weeks later, she had a weekend off where she could go see him and asked for 300,000 so she could go. I gave it to her, and this is the photo of her with her family.
I think a lot of guys are so focused on money and that the way to do it is to give women as little as possible. My response to that is what is the reaction of the women. Does she go back and tell her friends, "That stupid guy, I could have hit him up for 500,000" or does she respond with gratitude like this one did?
She has sent me texts after this, videos of her playing with herself, telling me she is playing with herself thinking about the time we were together, pleading with me to come see her.
Thing about this is I actually tell guys what I am doing. I know it makes some uncomfortable, but I am just saying for me this is the way to get the best sex. Hooker types that are fast food often are delicious often better than fancier fares, but nothing that special. I like the special meal prepared just for me. Sometimes it is worse than fast food, but when it is better, it can be so much better.
Yes, there are times that I have crashed and burned. I have had many hooker types that I have met from SA that were unsatisfying ripoffs. Still, I have had what other people thought was not possible, a cute, smart, hard working 20 something coed totally fall for me and I am in my 50's.
And I have to tell you something Sang, out of the five or so prospects I have in Colombia, she is fifth.
So it is your thing to go to a party and be the big shot or party king or whatever and make it rain with the best table, that is cool. It is your money and if it makes you happy, then go for it. You have a right to do and should do whatever makes you happy with your money. Like I said, the losers are the ones who tell you that they would spend your money better than you.
For me, it is spending time with women who give me the best sex they can. The side benefit has been they care about me and I care about them. A buddy of mine reminded me, "I have met your women, Elvis, and half of them want to marry you. " I went looking for the best sex and happened to get involved with some pretty cool relationships along the way.
We are not supposed to care about how women feel after having sex with us. They are paid for it right? Still, even if it does not work out with this engineer, and it probably won't, I like to think that she can feel like she had no regrets. Maybe things did not work out for us but I hope she can look back and really appreciate all I did for her. It has been a crazy journey for me, a guy who really was just looking for the best sex possible.
Gusto and few other lleras night club gives the opportunity to see girls attempt to dress their best / look dolled up, see great curves. Most chicas who come visit me come casual pretty much. I like to see fashion as I am quite fashionable myself. Fase dos is a good choice. La70 and la 33 I would like to try. Question to you surfer or any other member. I notice that few girls from Cali and maybe even cartegena are station in centro. What is the odds of these 2 beautiful girls at gusto are actually working in centro.
Today i could have session with a gusto girl. 200mil 1 hr. But i was at 150mil 2 hr 2 leche. I may concede since shes attractive and without kids.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2505019]I'm going to have to assume the only reason you go into Gusto's is because your close by, and just for the eye candy, which there doesn't seem to be much of. And two chocolate girls that are tourists in Gustos, that's funny, and I suppose they might be tourists coming from perhaps the Northern coast of Colombia to work, that would be my bet, especially a pair making the rounds together.
Why don't you try some other places like Fase Dos for a change, or even some of the Clubs in El Centro at Avenida De La Grief to compare to what you've been seeing in Gustos and at LLeras.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Rextor;2505116]Hey,
I was at La Isla yesterday too. Were y'all the crowd that included one fairly young looking Asian gentleman? I think I was sitting behind you guys haha.[/QUOTE]That was us. We started as 3 and ended up as 5.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2505160]Gusto and few other lleras night club gives the opportunity to see girls attempt to dress their best / look dolled up, see great curves. Most chicas who come visit me come casual pretty much. I like to see fashion as I am quite fashionable myself. Fase dos is a good choice. La70 and la 33 I would like to try. Question to you surfer or any other member. I notice that few girls from Cali and maybe even cartegena are station in centro. What is the odds of these 2 beautiful girls at gusto are actually working in centro.
Today i could have session with a gusto girl. 200mil 1 hr. But i was at 150mil 2 hr 2 leche. I may concede since shes attractive and without kids..[/QUOTE]I'm assuming when you go to Gusto's your not wearing shorts, a baseball cap, and sneakers.
I do know that there are some girls that work both Lleras and El Centro, but very few, but don't know about Gusto's.
I have spoken with girls working Lleras on many occasions out of curiosity as I'm ten minutes away, and frequently walk thru the area.
The girls working Lleras / Gustos have experience with foreigners, where as the majority of the girls working in El Centro have never even been to Poblado.
You have to keep in mind that 99% of the clients in El Centro are locals, and that very few of the girls that work El Centro would be able to navigate the LLeras / Gusto scene let alone have nice clothing and all the small talk to snag a customer. Pulling girls from Lleras / Gustos as your aware is not like going to casa / club and making a selection, the girls have to do a sales job of sorts wheras in El Centro it basically boils down to price with not much interaction.
If you put yourself in the shoes of a working girl, why do tricks for 30 K when you could make 5 to ten times and more than that working LLeras / Gustos.
So in summary I find it hard to believe an El Centro girl would be working in Gustos as it doesn't make logical sense, but there might be.
If you speak spanish fluently it makes a big difference. I have my list of girls that when they come over I really don't know if they will stay a couple of hours or the night of even a couple of nights. Being.
Able to speak conversational spanish, tell jokes and have good spirits to drink helps. Just think how boring you are to them if you can't speak the language? If you can't speak the language expect once the deed is done they will want to leave. Can't blame them for that.
[QUOTE=Combo;2505141]Sometimes yes, sometimes no.[/QUOTE]
No matter how fluent you are the puta is going to be on her cell phone texting with next or potential clients, or with online entertainment. Whenever theres a break lol. Sometimes it happens while you fucking. You guys are in fantasy land. Wanting to believe speaking spanish impact a puta decision for a sexual encounter. Best you say if she wants extended visits or relationship. Whenever you believe $ is not the most important. You are disillusion.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2505183]If you speak spanish fluently it makes a big difference. I have my list of girls that when they come over I really don't know if they will stay a couple of hours or the night of even a couple of nights. Being.
Able to speak conversational spanish, tell jokes and have good spirits to drink helps. Just think how boring you are to them if you can't speak the language? If you can't speak the language expect once the deed is done they will want to leave. Can't blame them for that.[/QUOTE].
I agree that a Gusto girl is unlike to be at Centro. But quite a few mileroticos girls work Centro so you are underestimating an easy transition at lleras park. Majority of the girls at centro strip club most likely double online. The only thing lleras girl say is Hi papi my name is so and so you want to go with me tonight LOL. How hard is that.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2505175]I'm assuming when you go to Gusto's your not wearing shorts, a baseball cap, and sneakers.
I do know that there are some girls that work both Lleras and El Centro, but very few, but don't know about Gusto's.
I have spoken with girls working Lleras on many occasions out of curiosity as I'm ten minutes away, and frequently walk thru the area.
The girls working Lleras / Gustos have experience with foreigners, where as the majority of the girls working in El Centro have never even been to Poblado.
You have to keep in mind that 99% of the clients in El Centro are locals, and that very few of the girls that work El Centro would be able to navigate the LLeras / Gusto scene let alone have nice clothing and all the small talk to snag a customer. Pulling girls from Lleras / Gustos as your aware is not like going to casa / club and making a selection, the girls have to do a sales job of sorts wheras in El Centro it basically boils down to price with not much interaction.
If you put yourself in the shoes of a working girl, why do tricks for 30 K when you could make 5 to ten times and more than that working LLeras / Gustos.
So in summary I find it hard to believe an El Centro girl would be working in Gustos as it doesn't make logical sense, but there might be.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2504855]I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the price has very little to do with your love of being a Centro rat. It's the thrill of the hunt, the walk on the dark side. Paying a chica to come over is normal, vanilla and there's no thrill, but grabbing a sweetie from the street is taboo, with just a whiff of danger.
Seems perfectly normal to me.[/QUOTE]You hit it JjB!
And the truth is, if you can speak and jive with them, show some empathy, some cario, they can turn into loving sex kittens.
Price is whatever you want to pay.
First trick is the pick, the hunt.
I know after just a few sentences usually, their way.
And the hug.
I joke around a little, and somewhere in the jive, ask for a hug.
That hug tells a lot. It really does.
I'm just a normal dude really. Average looks I think, in shape, not an Olympic athlete by any means though, however, I was blessed with blue eyes which they love.
I just learned well the lingo, the culture after so many years, and I'm a people person.
All works.
Best pickings for me, by far, Centro.
Gustos, not my gig. I've been of course. It's a shark atmosphere mostly.
Parque Lleras though better, IMO, is not much better.
We all have our strengths and weaknesses, our wants and our desired flavors.
No matter where I'm hanging out, Colombia, Sao Paulo, Rio, I find my gems in "Centro" most usually.