Bangkok Reports

Had couple of days in Bangkok and managed to sample few massage shops, soi cow boy bars, WG on Sukhumvit Road. The freelancers qty is down. Ig time specially near grace hotel. Most nights I could not find anyone to my taste. Friday night had few in nana area, Saturday was heavier in qty but bery low on looks. May be about 100-150 girls around 9. 30 Beer Garden is totally hopeless now. Less than 10 girls duringvthe noon and afternoon, all of them fuglies. Didn't even feel like talking to anyone of them.

Massage shops seemed to be doing better business this year but quality was still very poor as. Ompated to few years ago. No chance of finding a cutie one can spend lot of time with. Massage shops on suk 23 had 1-2 girls that I ckukd do but wanted 2000 bahts. Freelancers were not into it, a sharp contrast from the past.

I think for future trips I will have to raise the budget, get hotel calls from massage shops and reduce number of shots. I try to score 3/4 shots everyday which is now looking like waste of money and energy so will restrict myself to 2 per day. Will also plan outdoor sightseeing after two days of mongering to recharge batteries. Will also patronize some high end massage shops for eye candy and build a list of contacts from Thai friendly and similar online options.

Best of mongering days are certainly gone for 4/5 years now but fun can be have had provided one plans in advance and spends time in creating contacts.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2157918]It is possible that some bar girls are from Northern Thailand. I am not big into bars so may be this is something I need to add to menu.

I really miss Nataree. The selection was not the best but huge quantity meant one would find a beauty or two and most of them were from Northern Isan. Now it is isan isan everywhere. I think all 13-14 girls I had in 4 days from Isan. Damn.

Does anyone know if Thai Friendly has selection from Bangkok or Chang Mai areas?[/QUOTE]You are starting to get a bit "racist". LOL Don't judge a girl by whether she is Issan, Laos or supposedly Chaing Mai or Chiang Rai. Some of the Chiang Rai girls are not really from there anyway. Could have snuck across the border from Laos or Myanmar.

Judge a girl by her individual looks and her attitude. Who cares where she comes from? I have had the odd really great girl from Myanmar or Cambodia too, whose Thai was not quite perfect LOL. Do I care where she comes from if she has a pretty face? No way.

If you selected 14 Issan girls, you must like them. Issan has some ugly girls and also has some pretty ones. They don't all have broad noses. Their skin colour varies a lot. Tonight I have a date (for a fuck) with a very light skinned tallish Issan girl. The fact she Issan is irrelevant. Her body is slim and very sexy (not big tits but no sag anywhere). Good face. Great nose. She could almost be a model.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2157919]have started members only BS. Not sure it is only on weekends or not. Can someone please confirm and also let me know if this is same in Baccara at Pattaya?
[/QUOTE]Definitely no membership required in Pattaya's Baccara.

Yes, if you are not Japanese you are forced to buy a drink BEFORE you enter Baccara in Bangkok. Anyone can walk into Baccara Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2157919]Saturday night was very busy at Baccara and noticed that they too have started members only BS. Not sure it is only on weekends or not. Can someone please confirm and also let me know if this is same in Baccara at Pattaya?

They were also guiding everyone to buy drinks before going in.[/QUOTE]Could be that Saturday is a bad night, to be visiting Baccara. I visited Crazy briefly, Shark, and Tilac. All were quite busy with doable (for me) slim girls. Some bars were pretty full.

I had not seen such a good line up at Tilac in previous visits. Mamasan Taay (ex Suzi W) tells me that Friday and Saturday are far better.

Even Shark had a better line up than usual.

In all places, some of the girls were making an effort to dance to the music, and was evident it made a difference to them whether they thought the music was good for them to dance to. Not every girl was simply a shuffler. Some examples of songs that seemed to be liked for dancing where I happened to know the name of the song: "Moves like Jagger" (Maroon 5), Suavemente, Despacito, Cheap Thrills (Sia and Sean Paul), etc. Just a comment for those people advocating really ancient music (50's and 60's) to be played in gogo bars. It ain't going to happen when the DJ is a youngish Thai guy. He is going to pick what he thinks is best and sometimes what the girl likes. Never seen a female DJ yet, in Thailand (but have in Sweden).

Crazy is one of the few Cowboy bars not to have any Coyotes. This is good since 80% of the girls dancing early were completely nude. I enjoyed watching number 40 who was slim and shapely. Might have been tempted except for the nose had slightly over flared nostrils. LOL Another girl had great body but similarly face did not quite make the stunning grade. Being there before 8 PM is a bit too early. Best girls usually arrive between 9 PM and 9. 30. Mon is quite pretty and she was there.

Both Shark and Tilac had Coyotes. Shark was about 60% Coyotes, and Tilac maybe 50%. I suppose it gets worse as the evening goes by since Coyotes unlikely to be barfined at 2000. I presume that most of them have BFs and officially do not go with customers for fucking (with perhaps some exceptions). Otherwise I generally can't understand why girls want to be Coyotes. They would make more money by being a normal Gogo girl especially if happen to have good looks. By being a Coyote they get to put their tits under multi-layers well hidden, and perhaps just sell drinks. As for dancing, well most of them are fake Coyotes because their dancing is no superior to the gogo girls. Yet I have fucked a Coyote girl on odd occasion, so I still can't quite figure it out. Want to cover the body more and be prim and proper? LOL

Tilac is a puzzle. There are no topless girls. All tits well hidden in this place. Girls could well have horrid tits. Yet the gogo girls have no knickers on under the skirt. The odd girl drunk, lifted the skirt to flash the pussy, but disappointingly too much fuzz there. I prefer shaven. Hence Crazy House is definitely the better place to see both tits and pussy. Sharks has gogo girls with see through tops. That is pretty much good enough for me. They had a few hot gogo girls (on Saturday at least).

A few weeks back I reported all of the Arab's bars were closed. Unfortunately was for one night only, it seems.

Late night Cart bars are gradually coming back perhaps? Last night there were 3 in Soi 23, at least 2 in Soi 21 and 1 in Sukhumvit in between. Did not really check out the talent, although recognised one very skinny girl (I forget name and where met before). I did not check the cart bars in lower Sukhumvit.

Took my regular girl for ST in Asoke Place ST Hotel. It seemed less busy than usual. Perhaps it is best to arrive there early evening on a busy night and I did.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2157474]To be safe better get the girl and you tested.[/QUOTE]How long does this generally take to do Sammon, including the results? And what's the cost?

[QUOTE=Aviator12;2157791]Can only agree with you on this bar. Been there maybe 10 times over the past 2 years but never understood the hype. If you want naked girls go to Longgun. A much better bar with a fun vibe, good service and stage shows non-stop. Quality of girls is average in Longgun (besides a few real stunners.) but so is the status at Crazy House also these days. The worst thing about Crazy House is the Music. Horrible "car alarm" music not fit for people over 40. Overall best bar in Cowboy these days is Shark in my opinion.[/QUOTE]I can agree the CH music is bad. The quality of girls in Long Gun did not impress me last visits, and the stage shows were not exactly a plus for me at either venue. There was higher pressure on me by staff to buy drinks for girls or mamasans who know me from years ago, before I even decide if I liked any girls at all.

So I don't see what that Long Gun is any better. Crazy House certainly has a much bigger range of girls if you happen to be there at the right times between 9 pm and 9. 30 PM is ideal). The line ups vary in each bar.

Is Crazy House over hyped? I think it is simply the better place to see naked girls. If you like Long Gun, great. For me Long Gun is so far behind what it was say 20 years ago. The main point is I have not BFed a Long Gun girl for several years now, where as I did find several girls okay For me in Crazy over 4 years plus. I rarely visit Crazy now as it is well behind it's peak, but not as severely degraded as Long Gun. To be fair I should look LG again as did not go inside this year.

I don't care about the service and the music is not top priority. Only the girls really matter. I probably repeated 50% of girls tried out in CH, so that is not a bad rate for me.

I am attending Shark more than CH these days, but it is simply a question of the right girl. The place doesn't matter much, although I will concede the Shark music is better. 5 to 10 years ago Shark music was horrible and girls could not dance to it, so they must have got a new DJ.

Long Gun had fabulous shows by very professional dancers, probably in late 90's early 2000's, but once the top dancer pair left, the shows became very ho-hum. Does anyone remember skinny Ning (the best dancer I ever saw at Long Gun) from maybe 15 years back? She hardly ever went with a customer, but drank tequilas like a fish. I never liked the Pat Pong style shows at all.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2158081]You are starting to get a bit "racist". LOL Don't judge a girl by whether she is Issan, Laos or supposedly Chaing Mai or Chiang Rai.[/QUOTE]Is that any worse than judging a girl based on whether she has a wide nose or not?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2158114]If you like Long Gun, great. For me Long Gun is so far behind what it was say 20 years ago.

Long Gun had fabulous shows by very professional dancers, probably in late 90's early 2000's, but once the top dancer pair left, the shows became very ho-hum. Does anyone remember skinny Ning (the best dancer I ever saw at Long Gun) from maybe 15 years back? She hardly ever went with a customer, but drank tequilas like a fish. [/QUOTE]She knocked me to the floor once. I was sitting on a bar stool next to the stage and she wrapped her legs around my neck and rocked strongly back and forth with her arms on the pole behind her. She rocked too far and we both fell to the floor. She was too skinny for my normal taste, but of course, I had to bar fine her after that incident. It was a turn on. LOL.

Sure, Long Gun is nowhere close to what it used to be. (Joy from around 2000 was my favorite there. What a little stunner.) But there are 1 or 2 there that are well worth taking. The girls from Long Gun have always been good in bed. WAY better than girls like the Baccara girls.

Of the current crop, I recommend Tukta at Rawhide if she's still there. She has a mediocre face but a stunning body. She's a bit older and has fake breasts, but you won't find a better performer in bed anywhere in this world. That chick can suck, fuck, and rim with the best of them.

[QUOTE=Allover;2111749]The high end soapies used to have great looking women. Before Lord opened, Poseidon had a great rep. I forget which floor at Poseidon had the better girls but it was a higher floor. I believe they had fishbowls on the second and 3rd floor as well. Only went there once and loved it, never been to Lord. Will visit Lord on my next trip even if just for the eye candy. I also had great times at the Plaza Entertainment complex. Not the taxi ripoff Cupidy in the basement but there were two soapies in the attached building. One on the 2nd floor which had beautiful girls and another one on the 6th floor which I believe was called Delila. Both of these were great. There is a gentleman's club which also has beauties called Penthouse or something similar. Never been there but I am guessing it is still open.

I don't hear anything about Poseidon any more. Is Poseidon still open?[/QUOTE]Late reponse.

Poseidon used to have the standard girls on floor 2 and "models" on floor 3. It has changed now. Girls have moved down stairs and they have lots of surgeries girls. I never got shown any higher floor. I found the models on 3rd to be over rated for prettiness. Yes they appeared to have good bodies and were young, but the faces were rather average. For some customers, young = pretty, but that does not work for me. I would much rather get a very pretty girls and compromise a little on the figure maybe. However I am hard to please. I always put "Poseidon" into the category of over-rated, mainly because I found better girls for me elsewhere.

I used to visit Plaza Massage a few times repeating more than one girl and did check out Delila on the 6th. It was later renamed to Aqua. I never actually picked a girl from the 6th. Never found any gave me the right impression and pretty enough to justify the extra cost. Probably they wanted mostly Asian customers.

I probably usually choose to take twice as many sessions with a good priced girl rather than pay a lot for a girl who just might not justify it. I used to have a very pretty girl at Amsterdam for a while yet she was in a mid category, not the most expensive perhaps because did not have huge tits and her waist to thigh ratio was more extreme than normal.

JJ.
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First time report from Bangkok. Other first-timers please read.

Before I say anything else: all the bars in Nana plaza, soi cowboy, Patpong (and even Patong, Phuket) are a waste of time. We should stop considering them mongering destinations, but rather tourist traps targeting those only looking to monger once in their lives. The base rate for one-shot sex, barfine, room fee, mandatory drinks, and lady drinks add up to us prices. The talent level can be had for a fraction across the street, sometimes comically so (as in Nana, literally 15 feet away). There may be exceptions, and I realize my experience is limited, but there's a reason I didn't get a girl in ANY of them during a full week of opportunity.
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Sorry can't quote properly, anyhow I perfectly agree with you.

Either you are an experienced monger and you know how to move, ie know where to find your girl and minimize the collateral damages or you use the social APP's nearly every girl uses, even gogo girls do (but a BF has to be taken into account unless you book her as a follow up to another BF, and be a sloppy second).

Otherwise those locations are what you described.

One might wonder that such a MO will not grant much return business once the customer realises he has been trapped, cheated or softly scammed.

Given the high rate of daily arrivals at suvarnabhumi airport, in terms of thousands males, a good percentage will hit NEP as a known RLD district and be happy to spend 5/10/15000 baths in a night. As "still cheaper than home and for a young exotic girl I would not get at home".

There are enough to guarantee a steady business. And you don't need hundreds of these high paying guys to run the house.

Just as Amsterdam residents do not hit the streets of the well known RLD to get their share of paid sex. They surely know where to go to get the proper business.

[QUOTE=JunkJock;2157860]Snip. She didn't zone out at any point, was refreshingly unjaded, and only cost 15 K bhat. I happily gave her 20 k, which she responded to with a bow and a Khap Khub Kaa, and we parted ways both satisfied. I looked for her again for the next two nights, but she was gone. A rare find. Snip.

I found another diamond in the rough at little-discussed 'Sweet Mango' (not the more popular Mango Massage) right near Cherry's Massage. The girl's name was Amy, a girl mom from the countryside and another sweetheart. I paid 34 K baht upfront for 90 minutes that didn't disappoint. Snip[/QUOTE]You paid 20000 bhat for two hours with a freelancer? You paid 34000 bhat at an oily for 90 minutes? You can't be serious. How is the latter even possible? Are these figures typos or do you have your own numbering system?

[QUOTE=JunkJock;2157860] and only cost 15 K bhat. I happily gave her 20 k

I paid 34 K baht upfront for 90 minutes that didn't disappoint.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I have to ask, the way you indicated prices must be a mistake. You do not mean 15,000 - 20,000 and 34,000 Baht? Right? Did you mean to put decimals in there? I am hoping the correct amount is 1.5 k, 2.0 k, and 3.4 k. Otherwise.

Had my second visit to BKK in a month, the first time I went I used the SoMe sites like Tinder, Badoo etc. And I have to say it worked out perfect. This time I went to have a look at Nana, Soi Cowboy and Patpong. And what I report is just my honest opinion and what my perceptions are (each one for their own).

Entered into Nana, first thing. Smelled like garbage everywhere, it was dirty and to be honest very few I would even consider worth taking for any price at all. To their benefit, they were not as greedy and pushy as Patpong should turn out (I will get back to that). This time I had a wingman with me and we took good time to look around and see the places. All places offered us to go in and have a look. And that's what it turned out to be. Just a look. I mean, even those places that had a couple that could be considered, the surroundings just seemed to dirty and creepy to my[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] liking. And add the ridiculous starting prices, I just decided to not waste more time there.

The next place we went to was Soi Cowboy, and it seemed better already from the look (and not to forget the bad smell at Nana, which was not here). As at Nana we went in to see the lineup and what it was like. And from my liking this was a step or 2 up from Nana. But I will have a better look at the places next time. As this was just reconnaissance trip to these areas to get an overview of where to go next time.

The last of the 3 places was Patpong, and what a weak lineup went into like 3-4 places there, they were chubby and to many were old. And I have to say that the night market what mess to pass through and quiet annoying with a all the people outside that wanted a cut of the cake (commission). I would say that Patpong is not as bad as Nana, but not a lot better either.

Sorry for not remember the names of the places, my wingman was dragged into the places to easy and I hang on to him to not let him end up in an overpriced shitty place. LOL.

I have been around in Brazil a lot, so for me the BKK scene is new, but what I have found out is that so far I prefer the Brazilian scene. Since I love a challenge, I will return and learn more about it. I do how ever find the Social sites quite interesting, I have built up a quite nice group of contacts on both Tinder and Badoo. And meeting up with these girls have been an easy catch and they have not been WG, but turned out to be GFE. As I mentioned in my first report going out with the girls, have a lunch, dinner, drinks or all of them.

Well, this was my small reflection of the BKK scene, and I hope it has some value.

Chico.

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