Thought you guys might like to an overall Asian snap shot. Looks like, as Chairman Mao said, the East is red. Pity red means Aids.
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Thought you guys might like to an overall Asian snap shot. Looks like, as Chairman Mao said, the East is red. Pity red means Aids.
We are not attacking you. Not at all. We just think that the WSJ report is dangerous because it will lead some people to believe that they can have unprotected sex as long as they are circumsised. I did read the report, I do understand what they wrote, but I also know what some who read the report will interpret it to mean. It is dangerous.
[QUOTE=Domino]Thought you guys might like to an overall Asian snap shot. Looks like, as Chairman Mao said, the East is red. Pity red means Aids.[/QUOTE]
Domino
The map looks outdated as India is also a place where the AIDS virus is spreading rapidly. Just my 2 cents.
Duni: The map is tryng to highlight two things:
1. where HIV ACCELERATION rates are expected to reach Olympian levels soon. Papua New Guinea is expected to get gold and Chinan silver.
2. places with low HIV rates: Japan and South Korea win here with Pakistan and the Philippines dubiously following.
Although India and Thailand have impressively robust rates, the acceleration of those rates does not seem to be so much of an issue. The map writes a message that India has gold for HIV quantity in Asia.
Although PNG is an institutional mess, and the growth rates there should be bullish, there is no room for complacency anywhere.
Recent posts claiming circumcision is a protective against HIV, or that taking "only" a few chances is ok (ie not fucking the skank for a very long period of time) are either misinformed, naive or very dangerous.
I write the last peice as someone who was led to believe the fact that I have little bit off the top would protect me from the clap in Thailand. It didn't. And in case one of our English low life trolls is reading this, I posted about my clap when I got it. There is no such thing as safe sex with Thai skanks.
Domino
OK, I see your point. Agree with you and others regarding BS article on circumcision. It is irresponsible and does more harm than good.
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Well I just recevied my results from my HIV test and thankfully it came out negative. A fellow monger mentioned a new and very clean clinic on Suk and Soi 11. You can't see the clinic from the street, its inside an alley way behind the 7-11 on Soi 11, it's also along the same alley way as Cheap Charlies bar. The test cost 500 bht and results are given the next day. They don't ask for id, so you can write down any name you want on the test form.
The reason I had an HIV test was that I had gotten mono from a girl in Vietnam 2 months ago, and last week I developed a gland infection while working in Bkk! I felt that my immune system must be very weak to be getting sick so often. Let me point out, I am very healthy, trim and workout at the gym. When I went to the doctor to get checked out, I was told I had a gland infection which was caused by having sex with prostitutes. This caused pure panic in me, thinking that I might have Aids.
I have been mongering for several years now, and when I first started I was very strict about using condoms, but as I became more comfortable with visiting prostitutes I became complacent for many reasons.
1. I would have a girlfriend and frequent prostitutes at the same time. Nothing beats the feeling of going bareback, and it's firmly implanted in your mind when you have a girlfriend. So when you visit a really hot looking working girl you think of how good its going to feel w/o a condom. This is especially true when I was drunk, when I am drunk I lose all sensiblity and discipline.
2. When I was travelling or on a business trip I would get very lonely and sometimes it can be very easy to develop a "relationship" with the girl, over time this would lead to sex w/o a condom.
3. Hanging out and talking to other mongers, I would find out that many never use condoms! They don't like to use them and don't think that they can get Aids. Many of these guys have been in Asia for years, so it gave me a false sense of security that hiv is not possible to catch.
4. I've travelled to some remote areas where the brothel workers do not have condoms or even know what they are. These is especially true in remote areas of China and Indonesia, so always carry condoms.
All this said and done, before my test I had some difficult thinking of how I was going to cope with being HIV positive. I am 32 years old and realized how I would have wasted my life if I was positive. All of the time spent going to school and geting my BA, MBA and building my career would be flushed down the drain. The disappointment in my parents in finding out I am carrying HIV, would be devastating. And most importantly, I would never have the experience of getting married and raising a family.
This was a very scary experience that really scared me straight, we all know that we should use condoms when mongering, and there is good reason to. I never really considered what responsibilty we have when having sex with prostitutes as I was always looking for a good time. Just think what your life would be life would be like if you are HIV positive and what effects it would have on you and your responsiblities to your family. I know I never considered these issues before and hope that everyone can learn from my experience in order to avoid putting your health and life on the line by not using condoms.
Bonsuk
Hi friends,
Just came back from the TOP CLINIC, 2nd. Rd., in Pattaya where I had a chat with the doctor. I asked him what the majority of the cases are, which he sees. He tells me that almost all customers, Farang and Thai alike, fall into two categories:
1. Respiratory illnesses (what brought me to the clinic; I picked up a bad case of bronchitis probably on a bus)
2. Ghonorea
He urges NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, to exercise the hobby without a condom!
In his opinion, there is a 99.99% chance NOT TO AQUIRE HIV, but currently a almost certain chance to catch Ghonorea (nasty, long lasting, fun spoiling) in Pattaya.
All this talk about AIDS raised a curious question within me.
If you guys don’t mind me asking, how many of you guys get BBBJ with these girls?
I haven’t when I went, either that or I was too drunk to notice LOL.
There is nothing like the Bare back feeling but I usually do it with the girls I know from back home.
BBBJ is pretty standard over here. I've never come across a CBJ, am still not sure if they actually exist.
I'd imagine a girl only requests cover if the wiener looks unclean or something.
As for the risk, I don't believe it to be too high, and it's a risk I happily take.
I'd imagine eating **** and ass is slightly riskier. One girl I know told me she has had a customer who put a condom on his tongue for the task. Odd.
DISEASE CONTROL: Ministry to target TB during HIV treatment
Published on August 02, 2005
Two-in-one programme will tackle diseases as part of Bt30 health scheme
The Public Health Ministry will conduct a free tuberculosis treatment programme for people living with HIV/Aids in order to reduce the growing number of people living with both diseases.
Deputy Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said the two-in-one treatment programme was aimed at curing tuberculosis along with the life-saving anti-retroviral treatment under the government’s Bt30 healthcare scheme.
About a third of people living with HIV/Aids were found to also have tuberculosis, which accounts for 12 times the infection rate among non-HIV/Aids sufferers, he said.
The ministry was forced to shift its approach for the treatment of both tuberculosis and HIV/Aids by integrating the treatment programme for HIV/Aids patients.
“The more tuberculosis patients who are cured, the less chance there is that the disease will spread to the rest of the population,” Anutin said.
Working-class people with low incomes make up the majority of people who contract tuberculosis, which kills about 6,000 every year in Thailand, Anutin said. About 10,000 new infections are recorded every year.
Despite the high number of tuberculosis cases, only 55,000 people enrolled in the treatment programme, which takes about six to eight months.
Dr Somchai Phinyoporn-
panitch, deputy director-general of the Disease Control Department, said 76 per cent of the treated cases were successful. The success rate is much lower than the World Health Organisa-tion standard of 85 per cent, he said.
The drug resistance rate of people living with HIV/Aids and tuberculosis is considered high at 5 to 7 per cent, compared to about 1 per cent in the general public.
This prompted the ministry to monitor drug resistance and report on a four-month basis in every province.
As part of the two-in-one treatment programme, tuberculosis patients who have tested positive for HIV/Aids will be evaluated for HIV/Aids treatments such as anti-retroviral drugs. People living with HIV/Aids who have tested positive for tuberculosis will be enrolled in the treatment programme.
The Nation
I was never impressed with the choice of condoms available in Thailand which ranged from cheap Thai made stuff to basic Durex or other brands. Ultra-thin condoms with increased sensitivity which I'd rather have seem to be unavailable.
I'll probably bring my own supply next time. Unless anyone knows where to get some of those ultra-thin 'skinless' Japanese brands from any specialty shops in BKK.
Top 10 condoms reviewed:
[url]http://www.condomdepot.com/reviews/best-condoms.htm[/url]
Wow- those Crown Skinless and Kimono look amazing. If anyone finds them here please post location.
I generally use Durex Featherlite, Jeans, or Comfort, but always steal imported condoms when friends from overseas visit.
I accidentally used one of those numbing condoms (Performax) a couple of weeks back, it was horrible, I couldn't finish after about three hours. Good cardio though.
What really are our chances of getting HIV? Has anyone ever stopped and calculated their risks. I think that Western countries got so paranoid about aids that you can be with a girl for months and she'll still insist on a condom. Consider this:
.5% chance that the woman has HIV
10% chance that you contract it when having unprotected sex with someone infected with HIV (this is especially low if you don't cum inside from what I understand)
Therefore, that is a 1/2000 chance of getting HIV when having sex. If you are having unprotected sex with only 3 or 4 different girls at a time on a continual basis (who you change every few months or so), that you met at clubs, and having protected sex with prostitutes, it is unlikely you will ever get HIV, and if you do you'll be so old that something else is going to kill you first anyways.
I'm not saying that unprotected sex is generally a smart thing, sometimes its alright and sometimes it isn't. What I am challenging is the conventional wisdom that condoms should always be used with someone whom you don't know, and that calculated risks can't be made in regards to sex. When I get to the point where I'm not even thinking about a condom, it is in such an impassioned moment with a woman as to be in a low risk situation anyways. I.e. you wouldn't be in that state of mind in a dirty brothel or with some professional cold hooker from a bar. I can take 1/1000 long shot to have great sex with several beautiful girls, whom I feel good about, instead of a lifetime of boring, protected sex. Just driving an automobile is a calcuated risk that people unquestionably take, yet unprotected sex, with about the same risk of injury or fatality, is unquestionably rejected.
Consider that people in many developing countries like Thailand and Argentina, whom 10% or less use condoms on a regular basis as reported by polls. These guys are out doing it all of the time without a rubber and very few are contracting anything, why should we miss out on the fun? Of course someone would be at a huge risk if they went around to brothels everyday having unprotected sex, but that is completely different than doing it with just a few, non-working girls every month.
One more thing to consider, how much of HIV contracted through heterosexual sex comes from unprotected anal sex? Probably a very large amount. If you are someone who doesn't like anal sex and never engages in it, your chances probably go down much more.
I bet that quite a few people who preach condom usage are hyprocrites who regularly don't use condoms, who simply want you to use them to reduce their risk of catching anything.
[QUOTE=Havrum]0.5% chance that the woman has HIV[/QUOTE]Yeah, good luck with those odds in Thailand!
You should also consider what you may be giving to the girls, not just what they may give you.
Keep it wrapped fool!
I bet you are right. I bet most people wouldn't catch anything that can't be cured (well, maybe herpies). But condoms are a very cheap and easy form of insurance that lets me sleep at night. Have you tried the new ultra-thin condoms? May I suggest you try a variety pack to find a brand that fits best? I swear condoms are ten times better then they were when I was a teenager. For me the upside of unprotected sex doesn't equal the possible (however unlikely) downside of unprotected sex. Happy hunting F4T
PS I accept the risk when I drive. But I still wear a seatbelt.