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Particularly Jaco, Tamarindo, and Manual.

I travel to Amsterdam for the brothels and window girls, but also because you can some some primo bud there. I know you can't do the same openly in Central America, but is weed easily available there? Can some of the girls find it for you, or are you running a significant risk just inquiring about buying a small quantity?

After close to 30 years of non-stop smoking, I've pretty much given up smoking weed. During my five trips over the last two years to CR, I have encountered numerous mongers with weed and have occasionally sampled their wares. I'm sure it is fairly plentiful and readily available, but I'd be careful about trying to buy any -- make sure you know and trust whoever might be helping you to score some. It is not at all uncommon for the ladies to either have some or know somebody who does. A couple of honies I met at the Sportsmen's Lodge offered me some, and I took one of them up on her offer. Not having smoked in a while, I got absolutely blitzed and damn near forgot how to screw! Not really... Don't expect the quality to be necessarily that great.

Thank you Mr. Jetsetter.

I may be foolish, but I'm gonna' have to try to score a wee bit of weed. It makes the mongering so much more enjoyable, especially the massages.

Are the girls in Costa Rica near par compared to the girls of Rio? I have been to Rio, Brazil twice and plan to go back next year. I heard a few good things about Costa Rica, and was curious. I have viewed the girls on this forum, but none "in my opinion" have compared to the girls I have seen in Brazil. This question is for those who have been to both places.

Thank you

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[QUOTE=World Jockey][QUOTE=Kcrl01]On the average what are you guys paying for say a 2-3 hour session and an allnighter in CR?

Might take my Thanxgiving Break there. I usually go to Rio. Looking for a little change of scenery.

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx[/QUOTE]
No one answered you.
Probably due to the little picture drama around your post.
Llol we are in the same boat
I too am considering going to CR; as a newbie; over the thanks giving break.
I usually go the DR but I am tired of seeing the same girls
I know this may not be the reports section guys but the subject of price did come up.
So how much do you guys spend on average for a girl?
And please say if you are talking USD or local currency

Thanks[/QUOTE]Or it could be because it was posted in the wrong thread. At least the "little picture drama" around his post was about PICTURES. You yourself recognized this in your reply/repost, so why did you post it again in the photo thread?

To answer your questions it really all depends on your negotiating skills (including spanish ability), preselection and where you do your fishing. I'm sure there will be some guys that will come out and brag about how they can find chicas for much less than the amounts I'm about to suggest but you have no way of knowing what those girls are like or if the claims are even true. I'll offer what I think are reasonable amounts to expect for a newbie at someplace like the HDR/BM.

ALL of the girls will open with an ASKING price of $100 for 1 hour. There are many newbies who, not realizing that the price is negotiable or what the usual market rate really is, will go for that no questions asked. [b]BIG MISTAKE!![/b] Even IF you DO go for this exorbitant rate, as some guys are wont to do with some of the colombiana 10's, clarify what you're getting.

[u]This point is as important if not even more so than just the price you agree to[/u]. Many chicas, but particularly those colombianas, when they say "1 hour" really mean "1 hour or until you come, which I'll try to get you to do as soon as possible so I can get back to the BM to find another sucker". Insist on "una hora completo con mucho vez" unless a quick pop is all you want. Also clarify such things as "chuparme sin condom" (BBBJ), "muchos besos con lengua" (DFK) or whatever other wierd and perverted things you might have in mind.

But say they ask for $100 and you're not thinking with your little head, a more typical amount that the average goodlooking chica at the HDR/BM will settle for is in the $50-70 range (or 25-35K colones). Some of the scuzzier ones might go for less or even some decent looking ones if your spanish and bargaining skills are well-honed. Some of the hottest chicas never have to move off the $100 mark or at least not far offf of it because if you don't go for it someone else will. And there are also some chicas who don't budge and then wind up standing around the bar most of the night waiting for that 1 guy who agrees to what they ask when they could have gone for several $70 sessions or even some who go home at the end of the night completely empty-handed. YMMV, some guys will only go for the real stunners even if it costs them a lot more, but personally I've found that the real hotties (9's & 10's) often provide sub-par service because they don't have to work as hard to attract the guys, while the more simply decent looking chicas (6-8's), will often settle for less money AND provide much better service.

Rather than negotiating a chica down to some rate from $100, particularly if you are interested in more than just 1 hour anyway, is to negotiate UP the time. So, when they say $100, you say "si pero dos o tres horas" or even TLN. Again, even if you ask for a couple of hours, make sure you emphasis that is for dos horas COMPLETO with multiple shots or they might think they can leave early if you come early or that they can just sit around after you shot your load.

For TLN, $100 is still possible but increasing difficult to get. I wouldn't go over $150 at TOPS. Some guys would pay more for an exceptional girl that they really have the hots for. Again, here it is important to get clear what you're getting. Are they thinking just an hour of play followed by a night of bedsharing and then sneaking out in the early hours of the morning to get home or are they ready for muchos vezes at night, followed by a sleeping in and a little treatment for that morning wood before they head off (in which case treating them to some breakfast is always a nice gesture)?

Personally, I'm not normally into LT or TLN unless it is with a chica I've been with before or one that comes highly recommended. In those cases, you pretty much know what you're getting. If you're talking about just some chica you're trying out from the BM, I'd rather just pay $50 in case I get burned or am otherwise not overwhelmed by her performance. If you really hit it off it is easier to negotiate for more time if you really hit it off then to negotiate a reduced rate to get them to leave early if you don't.

[QUOTE=Markfromky]Are the girls in Costa Rica near par compared to the girls of Rio? I have been to Rio, Brazil twice and plan to go back next year. I heard a few good things about Costa Rica, and was curious. I have viewed the girls on this forum, but none "in my opinion" have compared to the girls I have seen in Brazil. This question is for those who have been to both places.

Thank you[/QUOTE]Of course, opinions vary and beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but IMHO the garotas beat the ticas in sensuality and looks hands down (and I've been to both).

However, there are other factors to consider not the least of which is that CR is a hell of a lot easier, cheaper and quicker to get to then Brazil. CR is also a much more interesting, or at least compact, country to visit for all the non-mongering stuff, unless you're a big beach person.

Aside from garotas, Rio has some wonderful beaches right there within walking (or short cab ride) distance of the mongering sites. It also has a FEW nice places like SugarLoaf, etc. that you can see in your first couple of days. Unfortunately, to see anything else in Brazil, you'll probably need to take expensive domestic plane flights.

CR has many interesting day trips that can be done out of SJ that will put you back in town in time for an evening (or even late afternoon) of debauchery. If you like beaches, Jaco is less than 3 hours away. The beaches in Jaco aren't nearly as nice as Ipanema or Copacobana and the mongering action not quite as good as even SJ, but thats what you have in CR for beachside mongering. Beyond that there are many beautiful places within a few hours drive from SJ, which may not have any real local mongering options themselves, but which make for nice overnight (or multinight) trips if you don't mind becoming a regular tourist for a day or 2 OR you have a chica traveling companion in mind.

[QUOTE=Markfromky]Are the girls in Costa Rica near par compared to the girls of Rio? I have been to Rio, Brazil twice and plan to go back next year. I heard a few good things about Costa Rica, and was curious. I have viewed the girls on this forum, but none "in my opinion" have compared to the girls I have seen in Brazil. This question is for those who have been to both places.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

There is absolutely no comparison; Rio wins hands down. I have been to Rio 11 times and to CR twice. Rio is the pussy capital of the world, IMHO, with the only serious competitor being Bangkok. In San Jose, by contrast, pussy is available in abundance, but it is of lower quality and, paradoxically, more expensive than Rio pussy, or at least on a par, except in Rio's upper end termas. San Jose isn't even the best mongering spot in Central America; IMHO that honor belongs to San Salvador. I think Cpteasy will back me up on that.

I am quite puzzled by Prolijo's comment that CR is "much more interesting" than Rio. I realize that YMMV, but Prolijo, what have you been smoking? There is NOTHING interesting about San Jose; it is a total shithole, although there are other parts of CR that are attractive. Rio, on the other hand, has many many attractions other than the garotas and is one of the world's most beautiful cities. There are the usual tourist sites of Sugarloaf and Corcovado, and the beaches are among the world's best. Rio is replete with excellent restaurants and cafes. Moreover, it is a delight just to walk around in Rio and absorb the atmosphere. I could say much more, but if you've been there, you know what I mean. One more thing: CR seems to attract a much more loutish group of mongers than does Rio, although lately more and more riffraff have been coming to Rio as well. But if you don't mind mongering spots full of drunken, loudmouthed, raucous boors, then come to San Jose

All this is not to say that there is no reason not to monger in CR. As Prolijo points out, it is much easier to get to from the US than Rio. Moreover, the dollar has taken a beating against the real, whereas the dollar is more or less the second currency in CR. The city as a whole is monger friendly, and there is a plethora of mongering spots, all of them amply documented on this forum, and most overrun with the aforementioned louts.

The bottom line: CR is worth experiencing at least once, but then what mongering site isn't?

Lorenzo

There is absolutely no comparison: Costa Rica beats Rio hands down.

And I've been to both.

I surprise myself that I am saying that, as it was pretty much a lifelong dream of mine to visit Rio. I finally did this past summer.

Maybe my expectations were far too high, believing that it would be even better than anything that I have experienced in several trips to Costa Rica, Argentina and Colombia. The truth is, I was pretty disappointed in Rio.

One caveat: If you like big asses, then you should go to Rio.

I mean gigantic, enormous, humungous "bundas." The very kind of ass you would expect to find if you to decide to pick up T-Rex and bring her home with you!

Honestly, some of those garotas were so out of proportion with their slender torsos set on top of their brontosaurus bottoms it actually gave me the creeps. I thought they looked deformed.

Now, a few of the garotas looked reasonably slender to me at the time, until I got home and reviewed their photos. Then I saw it was only an illusion brought on in comparison to the monster garotas that were standing next to them that kind of made them look good to me.

I had exactly two top-notch experiences in Rio in two weeks, while I had seven great experiences in San Jose in a span of seven days.

Everybody has their own opinion, but to me the best chicas in Costa Rica are far more beautiful and many sport that spinner body type that I love.

You would be pretty hard pressed to find many spinners in Rio.

And I have to disagree profusely with Lorenzo when he says the girls in Brazil are less expensive. Maybe he hasn't been there since the dollar crashed. Maybe I negotiate better in Spanish than in Portuguese. Maybe I understand the Latin culture better.

But for whatever reason, I averaged paying about half the price for world class pussy in San Jose, compared to almost twice as much for average or slightly above average looks, with hit and miss service, while down in Rio.

Just look at the difference in the photos I posted on the Costa Rica threads in July and the Rio threads in June and tell me if you don't see an incredible difference in the quality of the girls.

Even the coffee in Costa Rica puts the coffee in Brazil to shame.

Since I have been back, I know where my mind wonders when I start dreaming of getting the hell out of Dodge...

I will agree with Lorenzo about the "loutish" gringos that CR attracts, but I don't bother wasting time talking to any of them.

And if your thing is really the scenery rather than the sex, then by all means go to Rio. The view from Corcodova is fabulous! I gotta grant you that.

Maybe I will go back to Rio someday, since my visa is good for five years. But it no longer has the pull on me that it did before I ever went there.

On the other hand, I already have my ticket in hand for my fifth trip back to Costa Rica cum November, and for only $228 round trip, no less. I can't wait!

DB

P.S. If you think I have strong feelings about Costa Rica, you ought to hear me tell you about Buenos Aires, where someday I hope to live and work and die!

I could not agree with you more. I have been to almost every country in this hemisphere that I care to, and there is still nothing like sitting, drinking at the good old del rey, an occassional hand of black jack, a good laugh as a gringo goes upstairs appearing to be the biggest stud on earth!! I recently (last five days) negociated 60-80.00 for three plus, hours daytime and nightime. Sometimes you need to set the chase and adventure aside and just relax and let the supermodels come to you. This is the place. If you were taking a recently divorced friend on his first mongering trip, tell me one place that would be better, provided you are not on a "backpackers budget". I agree this place is crawling with gringos, but, their was not one night that I did not see at least 15 girls who fit my bill. So for years to come I anticipate helping to stimulate the local economy in San Jose.............

So as far as I am concerned, Brasil can stick that visa up its________!!!

Fantasy reporting from Managua................

[quote=lorenzo]i am quite puzzled by prolijo's comment that cr is "much more interesting" than rio. i realize that ymmv, but prolijo, what have you been smoking? there is nothing interesting about san jose[/quote]i should ask you what you've been smoking. read what you just wrote and then reread what i wrote. i agree that san jose itself is not particularly interesting, which is exactly why i said [b]costa rica[/b] not just sj.

the interesting non-mongering things to do in cr are not in sj but are within a short ride of the metro area. there are several volcanos that you can visit that offer tremendous views all the way to the pacific and atlantic oceans, rainforests, cloudforests, waterfalls, hot springs, lakes, white-water rivers. there is tremendous bio-diversity due to cr being on the landbridge between north and south america, that you simply can't find anywhere near rio nor even any more if you fly up to manuas because, unlike cr, brazil has failed to protect its natural environment.

brazil does have the iguazu falls, which are a true world wonder (unlike the christ the redeemer statue, which got that title by brazilians stuffing the ballot box) but that is a long expensive flight from rio ($500 r/t and 2hrs each way). in fact, because cr is so compact, it is fair to look at it collectively, whereas, because brazil is so dispersed, one has to look at rio by itself, and going anywhere else in brazil is almost like going to a spereate country. so what does rio itself have? you say "many many attractions". i already acknowledged that its beaches are gorgeous. cr has some nice beaches too, if you bother to go anywhere beyond jaco, but in a different way. rio's beaches are urban (backed by a plethora of hotels and condos in the foreground, with the landmarks like sugarloaf rising up behind that). cr's beaches are more tropical and undeveloped. of course those beaches are nowhere near any of cr's mongering centers. and yes there is corcovado and sugarloaf which i also mentioned, but you can see both of those in a couple of mornings and that is about it as far as the major sights.

rio does have many fine restaurants and cafes but sj has its share as well. how many different places do you need over a 1-2 week visit?

sj a shithole? rio a delight to walk around? both cities have their nice and not so nice areas. the only time i've ever been the direct witness to a street crime was walking the streets around the copacabana area (just 2 blocks back from the beach) during the daytime on my first trip. i've walked the streets of sj much more, including sometimes at night, and after many trips have yet to directly experience any crime. sj has the perception of being crimeridden and it certainly can be dangerous in certain places, but rio is world renowned as having the most pickpockets of any world class city and a gringo wandering into the favelas just a few blocks back from the beach strip is really taking his life into his own hands.

even without the street crime, rio is not really a walking city. sure, walking the promenade area right along the beach or the beach itself can be a nice stroll. i'd call it soaking up the "scenery" (aka skimpy bikinis) rather than "atmosphere" but the beaches do make up the one worthwhile "non-mongering" activity one can do day after day after you've been up to corcovado and sugarloaf, although i'm not sure i would call ogling garotas as non-mongering. however, as a practical matter, everything in rio is really stretched out between widely seperated areas and it is much more necessary to take cabs whereever you want to go. plus unlike sj which is up in the relatively cool mountains and has several shaded parks rep001tered about the city to stop and rest, one can practically broil to death walking the strip all day in rio.

i suspect your perspective is as a monger who travels from one mongering city to another and looks at any nonmongering activity as just something to squeeze in between the mongering. doing a real activity outside of sj will mean you'll probably have to forego the opportunity for an mp session during the day. and if you want to go to a decent beach in cr, you don't go to jaco and you'll probably have to forego even the evening mongering unless you bring a chica with you. for many guys, those compromises are not worth the cost, in which case i'd agree if you're going to limit your non-mongering activities because you don't want them to interfere with your mongering at all, then all those other attractions i mentioned in cr will be completely wasted on you. otoh, if you're a true hybrid traveler interested in a more balanced vacation, then cr has a lot of stuff going for it at a much more affordable cost than travelling all over brazil.

Regarding the loutishness of CR mongers: I'm not sure how fair it is to make that generalization since I think you'll find unsavory elements in the mongering community whereever you go. Heck, the very term mongering suggests the shadier aspects of the hobby. However, I do have some theories to the extent it is true why that is so.

First of all, CR is a sandbox for foreign mongering. One advantage it does have over all the other mongering destinations is that it is a relatively safe and easy place for first-time or beginning mongerers to go. The language spoken is Spanish not Portuguese (or worse Thai) and many gringos speak at least a little bit of Spanish. But even if they don't, English is probably more widely spoken in CR than in any other latin country. Also, even if you don't speak any Spanish, the language is close enough to english that one could still probably figure out most street signs, menus etc. That is not quite as true of Portuguese and absolutely out of the question with Thai. Another advantage for guys who have never travelled to any developing country (which is where you find the most affordable mongering) and are thus likely to more wary of the unknown, is that it is or at least had been very safe. There are other advantages for newbie mongers but you get that point. If you accept the contention that there is a higher proportion of relatively green mongerers, my point here is that IMHO those types are also less likely to have developed the polish that more veteran mongers usually have - e.g. repect for the local culture, fair treatment of providers etc.

The second reason I think that CR may have a greater share of "loutish" mongerers is because of another one of CR's big advantages as a mongering destination. It is cheaper and easier to get to. True, the daily cost of other places can be much cheaper once you're there, but, if you factor the cost of getting there into the daily cost, then the only way to get the daily cost down below CR is if you stay there for a much longer time. And, if you stay for a longer time, the [b]daily[/b] cost of other places may wind up much cheaper but the [b]total[/b] cost is still much more because it is for many more days. The relevance here is that these other places are out of the price range or most lower income mongerers whereas just about anyone can afford to save up for a long weekend trip or a little longer to CR and that tendency might show in the classiness of the guys who wind up there.

[QUOTE=Prolijo][u]This point is as important if not even more so than just the price you agree to[/u]. Many chicas, but particularly those colombianas, when they say "1 hour" really mean "1 hour or until you come, which I'll try to get you to do as soon as possible so I can get back to the BM to find another sucker". Insist on "una hora completo con mucho vez" unless a quick pop is all you want. Also clarify such things as "chuparme sin condom" (BBBJ), "muchos besos con lengua" (DFK) or whatever other wierd and perverted things you might have in mind.[/QUOTE]This is a very important point, as I learned it the hard way from a Colombiana. It is X colones for 1 hours, or when you come, which ever comes first.

I don't suppose there's any use belaboring this point because tastes will invariably differ. However, I would wager a guess that if you took a survey of all the mongers on this forum who have been to both places, easily 95% would choose Rio over CR. In fact, I think most would think, as I do, that even making the comparison is laughable. Comparing CR to Rio is like comparing a Hyundai to a Rolls Royce, a hot dog to Chateaubriand, a Gallo red to Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Maxfield Parrish to Michelangelo, Neil Simon to Shakespeare, Eminem to Pavarotti.....but you get the idea. CR for the amateur, Rio for the connoisseur. Happy mongering, gentlemen. :rolleyes:

L

Lorenzo, I think you keep missing my point.

You're talking about one place vs. another place on a macro level but with a focus on mongering. I was talking about [u][b]JUST the non-mongering factors[/b][/u] and those are probably only secondary in importance to most mongers. On that basis, I agree with you that most experienced mongers would prefer Rio and if you read what I've posted will see I've said as much myself. In my initial post, I essentially said that [u][b]on a purely mongering basis[/b][/u] I would choose Rio as well ("[u][b]garotas beat the ticas in sensuality and looks hands down[/b][/u]" and that CR mainly beats Rio for ease and cost of getting there, which you agreed with, and for "all the [u][b]non-mongering stuff[/b][/u]" except beaches). And in my last post, immediately before yours, I offered up the exact same propostion as you just did that Rio is better for more experienced mongerers.

You said that "tastes will invariably differ". Part of that is because some people, like Dodger, wouldn't even prefer Rio on a purely mongering basis. But it is also because each place has its pros and cons and each person prioritizes those aspects differently. If your focus is mostly on mongering, which mine is not as much as yours is, and you share the view that garotas are hotter (as well as other aspects of Rio mongering - love those Termas) as both you and I seem to agree, then Rio is the place. If your focus is on other aspects of those 2 places and you think CR has Rio beat on many of those other aspects then CR is the place for you. I was comparing the two places on a more MICRO level by focusing [b]ONLY[/b] on those [b]NON-mongering[/b] aspects