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Mongers guide to Salvador
Salvador is a major city in Brazil with a very long history.
Slavador was once the capital of colonial Brazil and the mSalvador ain city of the slaves-trade. Hence you will find all the black GP or mulatas in Salvador.
History:
Salvador was the center of the Portuguese slave-trade in Brazil and all the Slavers from Africa - like Elmina - arrived there. The histoical city of Salvador is maintaining all these buidlings where these slaves had been auction off.
In the Pelourinho you find all traces, buldings, museums and churches giving account of this period of time and it is a must to see it.
Salvador is not only a city to monger, but also a city to do some sight-seeing.
You have 400 years of history to see.
How to reach there:
From Europe there are several options:
TAP from Lisboa - approx. 7 hours flight
AirEuropa from Mailand and from Madrid - 8 / 9 hours flight
Condor from Frankfurt 10 hours flight
TAM from Paris 9 hours flight
From the US you have to fly via Sao Paolo or Rio
Where to stay:
This depends on you budget:
Vila Gale
Othan Palace
Blue Tree Tower
are five-star hotels and you have to pay internet-rates of 110 - 130 USD
A good alternative is Sol Bahia for around 95 USD Internet rate.
ALL hotels in Bahia are girl-friendly as long as the girls is not dressed up to obvious. (no douplas permitted)
Where to eat:
best churascarias are
Boi Preto
BabaGula
Fogo du Chao
Other places to eat:
At Rio Vermelho below the Blue Tree Tower hotel there is a very big place with a lot of barracas where you can have a full meal for less than 20 Reais.
Alternatively there are a lot of small restaurants at the Pelourinho where you also meet GPS at night after 9.00 pm
Where to change money
In Pelurinho:
one of the souvenir-shops or ONEX exchange office. Ovoide the "exchange-offices"
How to get around:
Salvador is very big, taking all the time a taxi is quite costly.
To give some examples:
Airport to Hotel at Rio Vermelho 60 Reais
Hotel to AeroClube 20 Reais
etc. etc.
Best thing is you hire a car. Cars are depending on the time between 50 - 70 Reais/day incl. 100 free km and insurance.
If you have a wing-man then you can of course share the expenses.
Salvador is still a very layed back city in Brazil and tourism is not as big as Rio. Only in the hotels they speak English.
Language-issue: In Salvador you must speak Portuguese !!!!
Mongering
In Salvador you have various options:
- Street-walkers are everywhere. Drive around the "Octiavio Mangobeira"- Street - this steet is approx. 15 km long and you find there approx. 200 SW.
- Pelourinho - a lot of girls hang around there and the best time to score is after 9.00 pm, then they are out in force. A lot of them are only semi-pros, working during the day at a shop or hairdresser and only in the evening the are doing programs on the side to improve their income.
Prices are between 50 - max. 150 Reais - depending on the time and other preferences you have.
I have also attached two pics. of Eduarda, a semi-pro which I met at the restaurant Carangejo - TLN for 150 Reais.
A very very nice girl, CIM, Anal and doggy - alltogether 3 pops.
Clubs:
here are the clubs in order of beeing good or worse
Club EROS
Entrada 40 Reais - Saida 50 Reais - Girl 150 for approx 3 hours, 200 Reais of TLN
Clube Relax in Patamares
Entrada 50 Reais - Girls have no interest - avoid!!!
Clube Kantarere in the same street as Clube Relax - DEAD
FREE Night
Entrada 40 Rais - Saido 50 Reais - Muppet Show
Clube Rio Vermelho 27 (ex-Tche) - simply avoid.
I have added some pictures of these clubs.
There is also a Restaurant/Club called Santissima Bahia.
During the week this is a normal music-joint where couples are meeting, with a restaurant and bar.
On Mondays it is the meeting-joint of all the GPS in Salvador. I was there last Monday and there had been (even in low season) around 50 - 60 of them, 15 - 20 had been doable. Prices quoted for TLN had been around 200 but around 1.00 PM prices dropped to 150 Reais.
Do not waste your time going there during the week - Monday is the one and only day!
I also attach a photo of the club taken during the day.
Please note also that during the night around 8.00 pm a lot of streetwalkers are starting to hang around there.
Street-walkers
Prices are moderate
50 - 150 Reais depending what you want.
I had a dupla for 200 Reais for 2 hours.
Be carefull - a lot of "Bonecas" are around on the trail and the very first thing to do is to do a check . Real girls are not uptset as they know it.
In general Salvador is approx. 50 - 60 % of the prices of Rio.
Enough for today - more to follow
Carlos Primeris
Addendum to Mongers' Guide to Salvador - Part I
Carlos has given an excellent description of half of the scene in Salvador.
I say half of the scene because of the geography of Salvador. Salvador is located at the end of a peninsula that juts into and helps form the opening of the All Saints' Bay. One side of the city lies along the coast of the Atoantic ocean. The other side lies along the coast of All Saints' Bay.
The bayside is where the older, more historic parts of the city a located. Unfortunately, this area of the city has not been well maintained so the buildings are in poor shape, the streets are in poor condition, and most of the city's poor live in this area. In addition, there is not a strong enforcement of environmental rules, so the ships that dock in the bay spew a considerable amount of waste and garbage into the bay's waters. This makes the beaches on the bayside dirty and unappealing.
The oceanside, is where the newer, more expensive parts of the city are located. The 5 star hotels, the high-rise luxury condos, the cleaner beaches, the better restaurants, and the higher end clubs are also located here.
Carlos described that higher end area very well. I ant to add some description of the Old City, for those who may be interested.
The Pelourinho area dates back to the founding of the city. The Old City is divied into two parts by a high shear cliff. The lower Old City has docks, the Mercado Modelo, (a former slave auction house), the original financial area, the [b]only[/b] train terminal, and a lot of poverty. The upper Old City has a multitude of Churches, the renovated tourist area with tons of stores, bars, cafes, artisan shops, and GDPs just walking around. Many of these shops are housed in buildings there were the homes of the wealthier Brazilians 150 years ago when Salvador was still the capital of Brazil.
Pelourinho used to be a very dangerous slum area. But the government embarked on an ambitious redevelopment plan some time in the mid 90's. It has born fruit. It is now an internationally recognized tourist attraction, though there are still 'bad' areas of Pelourinho that I have explored during the day and wouldn't dare walk through at night. And there is still considerable development of the touristy area still to be done.
The upper and lower parts of the Old City are connected at one end by the famous Elevador Lacerda. It faces the Mercado Modelo. It is a huge structure that can be seen from across the bay. It anchors the Praca de Se which marks the beginning of Pelourinho. At the other end there is a tram that climbs up the cliff. It is just like the trams in Switzerland that climb up the mountains there, except much smaller. It is less well known and popular because it is in a poor, non-touristy area that I would not go to at night.
I have nor seen any strip clubs or bars that cater to GDPs and mongerers in Pelourinho. There are police everywhere in the tourist area so that activity must be kept low key. For that reason I believe the only action there are SWs. And these SWs are not obviously dressed for work, they are just pretty and smile a lot at men.
/ ... Part II
Addendum to Mongers' Guide to Salvador - Part II
The mongering scene in Pelourinho is low key. As Carlos says, it is probably dominated by semi-pros who are in it as much for the fun as for the money.
But, starting from Pelourinho and heading towards the point of the peninsula, there are several strip clubs. I have described some of them in prior posts, so I won't go into details again here. But I will describe their locations better than I did in those prior posts.
There are 2 main roads that run parallel to the bayside coast; Ave. Sete de Setembro and Ave. Contorno. Sete de Setembro starts at the Barra Lighthouse at the point of the peninsula and meets up with Ave. Contorno at a large park called Campo Grande. Campo Grande is also a place where the buses start and stop their routes, ie turn around.
I have seen 7 or 8 strip clubs on Ave. Contorno between Campo Grande and Praca de Se. I think I described some already, Phantasy, Blue Night, Tche Night. I have not been into all of them. I plan to spend more time in this area on my next trip. As I described earlier, these clubs are lower end. They are not spotlessly clean. Skol beer is/was $R3 or $R4. The chairs and tables are plastic. The garotas are hit or miss. Some are very pretty and shapely in the 8 or 9 range. Most are plain and chubby in the 6 and 7 range. Most are mulattas or morenas. There are many fair skinned garotas but few blond blue-eyed types. All have some sort of stage and sometimes put on shows. I tend to like them, not only because of the lower cost, but also because of the laid back atmosphere. The garotas are NOT aggressive. If you like one and pick her, she will do most of what you want. If you are not into a garota and don't pick her, she will be cool and not be all over you still asking for a drink. You can just chill with a beer and enjoy the shows, if that is what you want to do.
Prices vary. When I last went, lap dances for 3 or 4 songs were $R20-$R30. Full service in one of the cabines for 30 minutes was $R40-$50. Take out is available and depends on the garota. I took out some garotas from Tche and the exit fee was $20. One asked for $R100 for TLN another accepted $R70 for TLN.
Most have an entrance fee. Tche had $R20 which included 2 beers. Blue Night charged $10 which included 2 Skols. These prices are from 2 years ago. So I expect they are higher due to the inflation that Brazil is now experiencing.
Someone PMd me and asked about the areas with TVs. I did see many TVs and TSs in a particular area of Salvador. The ones I saw congregated on Ave. Sete de Setembro near the Campo Grande. I saw them late at night, say after midnight. There is no mistaking that they are men, at least to anyone who has been with a woman. I don't think they are aggressive and dangerous in terms of robbing tourists, as I have heard about in San Jose, Costa Rica. Still, the buses stop running soon after midnight and the streets are pretty empty, so you should take care. Don't walk around drunk!
Compared to Rio, the mongering in Salvador may seem pretty tame. But I think there is a great deal, it is just low key. For example, the local paper, A Tarde, [i]daily[/i] has 3 or 4 columns of ads (ie over 100) for escorts and massagistas. These are free lancers. There are LOTS of them. One my first trips to Salvador, I used these ads a great deal. They can be hit or miss, because you don't know what they look like util they show up. You don't know their attitude until they show up. Still, my best, most enjoyable experiences have been with free lancers from these types of ads. I have had bombs, but I have also had bombs in the clubs.
So that's my 2 centavos about Salvador.
P.S. I should add that garotas tell me that they rotate from club to club fairly frequently. In fact, some work only 1 or 2 days a week in each of 5 or 6 different clubs. I do not understad the logic behind this, but there it is. Also, Carlos and I have [i]only[/i] described clubs and action that exists on the coasts. There are many clubs in the central and more outlying areas of the city. Garotas have told me of clubs in those areas that they work at occasionally. Part of the reason for that is that most of the GDPs [i]live[/i] in those areas, as the coasts of the city proper are too expensive. There is still great untapped potential for mongering in Salvador because a good deal of it is hard to access for foreign tourists.
Regular girls - Salvador.
[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]In Salvador I made the experience that you must invest one or two days with a regular in order to get her as a GF. But then it is difficult to get ridd of them again. So - pay them to leave????
I agree with you that you get much more out of a relation with a regular - but at least I invest (not moneywise) in such a relation also too much. And braking up this relation hurts.
Carlos[/QUOTE]
I agree that regular girls are available all over Brazil. Personally I found Salvador to be one of the better hunting grounds for regular girls. Hunting grounds like the nightlife, beaches, shopping centers etc.
It also matters a lot that I usually spend at least two weeks in Salvador during carnival time. Carnival is an exceptionally good opportunity to get connections with regular girls in Salvador (or with brazilian tourist girls from all over Brazil).
My relationships with bahianas in Salvador has been everything from one-night-stands to engagements. Even though I might be a cachorro I always try to make it clear to the girls from the very beginning if I have any serious intentions or just want to fool around. Many times that works just great. I have my steady "GFs" in Salvador that accepts that we'll only meet a couple of times every year. They know that I'm not a saint, but we have a lot of fun together.
Picking up a hardcore black GP in Pelourinho or a SW down in Barra can be good fun, but my main interest in Salvador are definitely the regular girls.
Mongering in Salvador addendum 3
Carlos, George,
Great reports, guys. I wish I had had this 5 years ago!
I would just add a couple of specific experiences:
1. I stayed in Vila Gale about two years ago and it was definitely NOT GF. I tried everything, register the girl, a little money, no go. Maybe you could go through the doorman to order one in so he could get his cut, but I didn't try that.
2. Fiesta was GF but charged a fee ($40???). They would put it on your hotel bill and were cool enough to print that part separate from the regular bill. You could also arrange through the doorman to have one brought in which I did once. Absolutely great morena, total GFE, don't remember the price. This is old information, maybe 5 years ago, so YMMV.
3. Club Relax. If this is the one near Vila Gale (a block or two north and then to the left, behind a big iron gate?) I can say I have had some good times there. Met up with a stunner, had a great session and then arranged for her to come to the hotel the next day. She was unbelievable. So I wouldn't write it off. I would call it more of a terma than club. No real club action, just a swimming pool and some tables to sit around and have drinks. No lockers and not airconditioned, but the rooms are airconditioned and pretty nice with showers and nice big bed. Again, pretty old information so take it for what it is worth. I don't recall exact prices, but since it was so long ago, they wouldn't be any good anyway. I think it opens around noon.
Enjoy.
Salvador (Pituba) massagem
Been meaning to make this report for a few weeks....
I decided to try this place listed in gpguia.net [url]http://www.gpguia.net/phpbb/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=23021[/url]
Location: Pituba neighborhood of Salvador
Rua Bahia (I think 206 which is about 2 blocks from the beach)
Edifício Especial Center, sala 110.
Tel.: 3345-5279 ou 9156-9678.
The name of the building is on the side and is Special Center in English.
Rates go from 30 for massage only to 80 for massage and FJ. Low budget cabinas which are those blasted massage rooms with the high massage table. Makes things a little unwieldy, especially with a big bunda girl.
OK shower but the heater didn't work so only cold water. Not too bad, being that it is Salvador and pretty warm anyway.
Only two girls available, sometimes 3, probably about 5-6. The massage was forgettable, basically just smear on some lotion and whack you a few times. They are open 10-7.
Gotta say I do not share the enthusiasm expressed on gpguia, but, if you are in Salvadore in the Pituba area and want to duck out for a quick nooner, this will do. I sure wouldn't make a special trip across town!
Renting an apartment during carnaval
Hi there,
I plan to stay in Salvador during carnaval (first time!) and was wondering how much it would cost to rent a small (studio) unit close to the beach in Barra?
I can appreciate that prices may vary significantly. What I'm after is nothing fancy, just a basic place to entertain garotas in, but preferably not too far from the action and with a safe to keep valuables.
Has anyone got any recommendations? Any information that I should consider? (E.g., is there a security man that might not let chicas in? Apologies if this question sounds stupid, but it's better be safe than sorry... ;-) )
Cheers,
BR
