Amsterdam

Getting Tang:

Here is some more information for you:

1. For hotels, You may want to check out this web site for great deals on hotels: www.bookings.nl.

Bono is abs. right, Grand Hotel Krapnapolsky is a wonderful hotel. Right in front of it, is Swiss Hotel, a little cheaper than Krapnapolsky, and 1-2 blocks from the RLD. Try to book online, and you may be able to upgrade to a suite for the price of a single room. And, once you get an upgrade, then everytime you visit, they will give you the same deal. Everytime I go there, my name automatically pops up for a free upgrade!

BTW, if you are really looking for a cool hotel with the crazy ambience of RLD, you may want to try "Winston Hotel". Just check out their web site at: www.winston.nl. You can stay there for 60 - 75 Euro.

2. Here is the web site for RLD: www.ignatzmice.com/Adam

3. Again Bono is right about covered BJ. You may want to try the Clubs I had listed in my last reprots (just go back 1-2 week, look for my reprots). Just call them and ask. Most of these Clubs are 60 to 75 Euro.

4. If you are interested in SW, there is a section of Amsterdam designated just for that purpose. Please check the web site for RLD.

Best of luck in Amsterdam. If you need more detail please email me at fsmk5@yahoo.com.

Fred

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Hi all,

This is a report from September. Had lots of problems accessing the WSG until now.

Traveled to AMS and spent some time with the hobby. First stop was Love Club 21. This is a Thai place. It is on Koestraat toward the end of the block away from the RLD. Koestraat is roughly across from the Casa Rossa Sex Show.

Have been here several times before, but for those who have not, upon arrival, you are presented with the following menu:

Massage - Body 50 Euro 30 Min.
Massage - Body 75 Euro 60 Min.
Massage - Sex - Body 95 Euro 30 Min.
Massage - Sex - Body 125 Euro 60 Min.

I had been there several times before and had wonderful experiences. This time I was not as successful. The people just did not have the 'vibe' I was looking for. Over the years, I have found that when things do not feel right in the beginning, they are unlikely to get better. So, I decided to move on. I will definitely be back since I have had such good experiences there in the past. But this time it was not to be. (I notice that others on this board have said that they did not like this place. Personally, I have had both good and bad experiences, so YMMV).

So, I took it on down the block. Found a very attractive Thai person working a window not far away from the Love Club. Talked to her for a bit and the vibe was definitely much better. Spent $ up front (yes I know you can spend 0.5), but I have found that $ gets you a much better experience with less rush. This was defintely the case here. No need to provide exact location as people working the booths change frequently. Anyway, the mission was accomplished with no casualties.

Aviator

I have just got home from my tour of London Amsterdam and Solingen (Germany)
In Amsterdam I managed to visit both Showboat and Paradise so called semi swinger clubs? Both are very diffrent .
I need time to unwind and relax from my strenous trip and collect my thoughts and then try and write a hounest report on my vist to both these places.And help others follow in my footsteps should this appeal to them.and let them know what to expect.

Wizard,

I'm sure I speak for many when I say that we look forward to your reports and analyses of the two A'dam swinger clubs, Paradise and Showboat. Especially interesting will be to see how your experiences in the two A'dam clubs stacks up against the "champagne of Swinger Clubs," Beverly in Solingen. Beverly is a tough act to follow...I wonder if the A'dam clubs are even in the same league?

Take your time, relax, reflect, collect...then compose. Tell us all: the good, the bad and the sexy!


Thanks,

Ortos

"So, I took it on down the block. Found a very attractive Thai person working a window not far away from the Love Club. Talked to her for a bit and the vibe was definitely much better."

Just be sure that the "she" is really a "she" and not a she-male. It's sometimes very difficult to tell....

This past weekend, with two hours unexpectedly free, I walked up to Jan Bik from the hotel - Found a lovely,fresh Bulgarian with an A cup, average conversationalist; and a veryreluctant initiator of OWO. 75EUR for the hour.

Jan Bik is located few blocks of Centraal opens around 8PM - It can be a hit-or-miss place.

I was recently in Amsterdam and partook in some window fun. It had been 5 years since I was last in the big A and it seemed much quieter and fewer women working than years past. Unfortunately the euro has jacked the prices up too. The girls were asking for 50 euro, a bit much for quick, industrial line sex (but to their credit they understood that that meant I was gonna pound the hell out of them). I guess I've been spoiled with the all night affection of Brazilian and Thai girls and 3rd world prices.

Ofcourse the buds are still the best in the world. I recommed renting a bicycle, getting some great smoke and checking out the windows near the Singel canal too. Overall the window girls get a C+ in looks and B in attitude. Don't expect anything too affectionate and you won't be disappointed. Also if you see a blue light in the window it means she has a dick too.

Hi, I'm still waiting to hear if anyone has any knowledge/experience of action in Leiden - MP's, SW, escorts or anything !?

I went to Amsterdam recently. The scene was pretty flat. Many of the Kamers are empty, the eastern european girls are mostly gone but there has been a significant increase in the number of Thais.

I did some window girls, 50 Euro a pop. Service has declined from a few years back, even though the price has increased. I started with a dutch girl, got the hurry up type treatment, did not feel like repeating. I decided to try a Thai (good but still rushed) and a petite Indian looking girl (fair).

Having been somewhat disappointed by the window girls I tried the prive huses. Jan Bik was pretty slow, only three girls on, but the prices were much better value. 50 Euro for 1/2 hr and 75 for an hour. I took an hour, spent twenty minutes fucking in three positions then we talked for the rest of the time. Recommended. She said she did everything except for kissing, don't know if that includes anal, did not ask.

Same story at Park 126, which was a bit out of the way from my hotel (Krasnapolski). Had a black girl, mid 20s. Very enthusiastic. To finish off the trip I paid a visit to Love club. Expensive at 125 Euro for an hour with sex, but better than anything available in the US for the same price.

It sounds like the prices DOUBLED since I was there a couple of yearws ago. Did they just change the Guiders sign into Euros and forget they were 2:1?

my last two visits to de wallen, i failed to bang at all due to the pricey and callousness of the providers, (except for the flat chested redheaded italian girl who knows the meaning of customer service previously mentioned in the archives). the wall is definitely now for tourists only. i doubt very serious any locals frequent these windows at all because the lack of value and price. there are some lookers that are worth window shopping but maybe that has changed since april. to be fair the workers in these windows put up with alot of abuse from the intoxicated louts who also patrol the area.

i also found that the tourists had discovered the singel district which also used to provide some good finds at value but has also follow the trend and disappointment of the previous forum poster.

because the ruysdaelkade was the place for the locals, i was able to get the cheapest bangs for the euro by some fairly passionate providers. but even it had changed from october to this past april. the bottom line was the talent was unenthusiastic and bored from the lack of bizness due to their very pricey rates they were accepting. it can be fairly difficult to bargain when there is a language barrier. i dont know how the dutch men do it but they usually have a commanding grasp of english and other euro languages. the ruydaelkade providers are catering to repeat bizness.

i think now the smartest tourist looking for reasonable grind action would do well to try den haag geleenstraat and associated red lights, the boats at urtrecht offer the greatest diverity and as does the ample district in arnhem and alkmaar (which require a little bit of navigational skills but not intricate knowledge of the geography of the villages). also, i tried antwerp which is a minature of den haag but seemed like it was also too commercial and not offerring gfe. it did provide for window shopping entertainment. there are also peep shows for faint of wallet in close vicinity.

conclusion: boycott the red light areas of amsterdam. basically with the rare exceptions these kamers are rip offs. of course i cannot vouch for the asian/thai windows which seem to garnish better recommendations by most of the posters with that preference.

keep it legalized.

otter trax

Hey Amsterdam,

How about some stories and information on the Tipplezone. It has always been a place I would like to cruise to and see legal prostitution in full motion.

SH

Tipplezone:

There's african girls who seem to hunt in packs and size up prospective victims around the canals. They offer you the world. Some are not very attractive. Mainly they want to get in your hotel room and see how much they can steal.

There used to be some addicts who operated behind the Central Station but I heard the area has transformed more into a hippie squatter community. You may have to look in some nondiscreet areas under bridges. There you may see a shooting gallery. How romantic can you feel with that atmosphere?

It's alot safer arrangement to patronize the windows. Maybe the excitement is worth taking your life in your own hands. Dont be naive. The sharks are thick looking for victims out there. Most importantly dont trust those African sweeties. They are out to do you harm.

I get to Thailand several times a year and a visit to the Amsterdam RLD to see the Thai girls is always second best. I have been told of a New Thai massage place called Pattaya Club or Club Pattaya. Does anyone know about it, where is is, what is on offer, prices etc?

Alternativley can anyome make any alternative suggestions apart from Love Club 21 and Chaing Mai?

Going back to Amsterdam a week tomorrow so would appreciate a quick reply.

Thaipan